Serbs denied visit to Kosovo town on Good Friday

is this another way of describing the ethnic cleansing you took part in?
(Dardani, 18 April 2014 13:19)

If you're that dumb to think 12,000 expelled Serbs who lived there took part in ethnic cleansing, there's no hope in ever expecting you people to change. If you're even dumb enough to think those returning for religious reasons are the one returning to the scene of a crime you use to score sympathy points, there's no hope for "Kosova".

"...and work in"

is this another way of describing the ethnic cleansing you took part in?

Gjakova is one town where there isn't a single family that did not lose a family member in the last conflict. Forget coming to Gjakova as you are unwelcome and stop inciting hate and violence. Why do you want to come and pray in a town where you have raped, killed and mistreated the entire town population. Lord forgive me but some of you represent the worst the humanity has to offer.

Have Serbs informed Russia about this. I bet Russia is busy taking care of its own interests and use Serbs only when needed.

If you're that dumb to think 12,000 expelled Serbs who lived there took part in ethnic cleansing, there's no hope in ever expecting you people to change.
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Look there are 100s of Gjakovar Albanians who are still not found and their mothers suffering is the reason this is going on, when there are mass graves with loved ones in Serbia under buildings and until the remains of those people are not return to rest in peace it will be difficult.

Wounds need to heal and 15 years its not enough time for the atrocities that Serbian people caused in this town, its easy said when you have not lost your 2 Sons and Husband and still have not been able to barry them in peace this is just one case.

Once the loved ones have been returned then we will be able to move on, also yes not all Serbs committed atrocities but since they wore masks its hard to distinguish them.

Here are some videos to make it more clear for you:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TWjMc8jqPo]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpYfFDj9mSE]

So this is the pain the Serbs caused and in respect to the victims they need to allow more healing, for anything Serbs should know as they lost many people in Croatia in 140's and still painful for those who live there after 70 years so allow this people the time.

Serbia's constitutiton says Kosovo is a part of Serbia why doesn't Serbia just bring the Serbs where they want to go!

there's no hope for "Kosova".
(Albo Troll Wrangler, 18 April 2014 15:52)
The fact that Vulin was heading the trip (he never lived there) means it was a political ploy and had nothing to do with religion. You know, I know it and the whole world knows it. It was organized to get the response it did just like Christmas. So you could cry poor oppressed Serbs. Leave Christ out of your games.
Of course would the Albanians have been a little smarter, they would not only have allowed them to come but had several people present them with bouquets of Easter Lilies and had both local and international news cameras there, probably would never be another visit.

Indeed it was "Good Friday". Actually, it was a "Great Friday"!! LOL

You are so full of hate that you have lost all your humanity.
(Peggy, 20 April 2014 02:39)
You out of all people should keep your mouth shut. As one of the main supporters of serb facism here you really have the nerve to talk about humanity? You do not even know what the word means.

"...and work in"

is this another way of describing the ethnic cleansing you took part in?
(Dardani, 18 April 2014 13:19)


No, but this sentence is another way of describing the ethnic cleansing that happened in Kosovo:

"..because somebody does not want a reminder that 12,000 Serbs lived there before the conflict in the province, while now there are only four elderly women left."

Or do you think 'ethnic cleansing' only took place when there are 0 out of 12,000 people of an ethnicity left?

@ Dardani
Please explain how the return of 12000 Serbian refugees can be the result of Serbian ethnic cleansing of Albanians. You are either confused or delusional if that is what you think

Or do you think 'ethnic cleansing' only took place when there are 0 out of 12,000 people of an ethnicity left?
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 April 2014 17:07)
Serbs who fled Kosovo did so as the Serb police and military did. Why because they were afraid that without the Serbs to protect them that there would be revenge attacks for actions that happened. At this point it as not a case of the Albanians actually driving the people out.
The fact that 4 elderly women stayed kind of indicates the innocent had nothing to fear.
Guilt lies in varying degrees. I am not Albanian but if someone kills my family and you watch and you do not even condemn or speak out about the action, to me you are as guilty as the gunman. 15 years later if you still think it was ok, do you really expect me to embrace you and say that is all water under the bridge?
Whats worse is that should an elderly woman who lost her husband and sons throws a rock at your bus, you start screaming to the UN that her crime is worse than what happened to her.
Can you say you would act differently? If you say yes, you are lying.
Now on top of that you support a system of saying I still want this land without you on it. Compassion is a 2 way street.

destroying even our graves and so long after the war. When do you think you need to apologise to us for what you have done to us AFTER the war? When will enough of our blood spilled be enough for you?
(Peggy, 23 April 2014 01:31)
Oh I agree wholeheartedly, vandalizing deserted graveyards is so much worse than say locking elderly, women, and children in a restaurant and lobbing grenades through the window. Just maybe the Serbs should have dug up all the Serb graves instead of the Albanians and transported them to Serbia and placed them in mass graves or refrigerated trucks and placed them in the river, that way the graves would have been protected within Serbia, so much more humane, you think?

I doubt Serbs will ever again be able to go to Gjakova. It would be like allowing Nazis to go to Israel for religious services. You must remember that over 90% of Albanian houses in Gjakova were destroyed by Serbs and almost everyone lost a family member. The Serb aggressors wore masks, therefore, even Serb neighbors could have been involved in the war crimes against Albanian Gjakovar inhabitants.

So when the Catholics want to visit the Vatican or your lot wants to visit Mecca or anyone wishing to Visit Jerusalem is all a politcal ploy?
You peopel are disgusting and evil.
You are so full of hate that you have lost all your humanity.
(Peggy, 20 April 2014 02:39
Oh cut the crap Peggy, you know it was a political stage! And yes if any of these people had a hand in the slaughter of these cities and wanted to go to these cities with hatred in their heart for the people who are there, yes it is a political and not a Christian act.
It is you that is so filled with hatred that you have lost your humanity.

I doubt Serbs will ever again be able to go to Gjakova. It would be like allowing Nazis to go to Israel for religious services
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Are you telling us that Croatian, Hungarians or Germans never visit Jerusalem? Their grandfathers were Nazis and yet, the would've gone there.
That doesn't mean that Serbs who wish to go and worhsip anywhere in Kosovo are guilty of anything or their grandfathers are guilty of anything but just saying.

Again, you people are so full of hate, you have no humanity because if you did you wouldn't keep attacking Serbs (including children) time and time again and now denying them access too.

You will be expelled back to your mud huts in Albania. It seem that Orthodox Albanians are ready to convert.

"This message that the Priština interim institutions do not want Serbs in Ðakovica is more than clear. Ðakovica is a forbidden town for Serbs, because somebody does not want a reminder that 12,000 Serbs lived there before the conflict in the province, while now there are only four elderly women left."

Yet again, Vulin is talking out of his arse and making up figures for political and propaganda purposes; this is very Goebbels-esque of him.

According to the OSCE there were 3,000 Serbs in Gjakova municipality prior to the War, not 12,000 as Vulin incorrectly claims.

As to Vulin's false claim that there are "only four elderly women left", this is another lie. According to the 2011 census, there were 17 Serbs in Gjakova and one must bare in mind that many Serbs boycotted this census so the true figure will be even higher.

Do you know what kind of crimes, violence and rapes you did during the war? do you think people will ever forgot this? If I would be a Serb, I would pray every day for forgivness, what you did to people in Bosnia, Slowenia, Croatia and especially in Kosova.

The fact that Vulin was heading the trip (he never lived there) means it was a political ploy
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So when the Catholics want to visit the Vatican or your lot wants to visit Mecca or anyone wishing to Visit Jerusalem is all a politcal ploy?
You peopel are disgusting and evil.
You are so full of hate that you have lost all your humanity.

Willi said "You out of all people should keep your mouth shut."

All heil another arrogant know-it-all german ... "Kaiser Willi Pfaff"

You out of all people should keep your mouth shut. As one of the main supporters of serb facism here you really have the nerve to talk about humanity? You do not even know what the word means.
(Willi Pfaff, 21 April 2014 11:27)
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Wow, hit a nerve?

This reminds me of .... where Ronny attempted to show how people wanted to vote no matter what happens. He gave an example of a woman being shot in the shoulder but stood in line waiting her turn to vote. The press then asked who was she and where did she live?
Ronny said it was Maria and show lived in the most populace province and they should go there to find the Maria. In a country where you had 99% catholics how many Maria’s would there be?
(sj, 22 April 2014 02:50)
Don.t know what this has to do with the price of eggs in China but if you are speaking of my mention of 4 elderly women, that is the very last line of the article, did you by chance read it or just jump on the forum and start spouting.
I am glad to hear that these people (according to you) live near the Serb settlements for protection, now we have the clear picture, the Serbs in Kosovo do not live in fear and persecution as everyone claims, they are strong enough to protect others, I guess you blow Peggys claims that they all live behind barb wire fences away. Of course anyone who has been to Kosovo knows that is not true.
I could care less about how many Albanians are in EU prisons and their percentages, I am not pro Albanian just pro Kosovo should be independent and not under Serbia, but I am sure you really don't know actual numbers, it is one of your "Hey I think I will write this" moments.
Thanks for the ReAgan story, so you can't prove it wasn't true, but just want to insinuate.

(think about it, 20 April 2014 15:36)

But you seem to forget that Albanians kicked out everyone that was not Albanian including their brothers the Croats, ethnic Turks and Albanian Muslim Roma (today these people have to live near Serb settlements to avoid being attacked by your multiethnic loving Albanians).

EU prisons are full of Albanians. If you look at the statistics a certain percentage of all ethnic groups are in prisons but Albanian numbers run well above average.

“4 elderly women stayed kind of indicates the innocent had nothing to fear”

This reminds me of one of Ronald Regan’s press conferences on Nicaragua turmoil in the 1980s where Ronny attempted to show how people wanted to vote no matter what happens. He gave an example of a woman being shot in the shoulder but stood in line waiting her turn to vote. The press then asked who was she and where did she live?
Ronny said it was Maria and show lived in the most populace province and they should go there to find the Maria. In a country where you had 99% catholics how many Maria’s would there be?

Do you know what kind of crimes, violence and rapes you did during the war? do you think people will ever forgot this? If I would be a Serb, I would pray every day for forgivness, what you did to people in Bosnia, Slowenia, Croatia and especially in Kosova.
(be serious, 22 April 2014 14:37)
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Oh enough already.

Nobody is denying that bad things were done to both BY BOTH. The tragedy is that your lot is still attacking us and destroying even our graves and so long after the war. When do you think you need to apologise to us for what you have done to us AFTER the war? When will enough of our blood spilled be enough for you?

"...and work in"

is this another way of describing the ethnic cleansing you took part in?

is this another way of describing the ethnic cleansing you took part in?
(Dardani, 18 April 2014 13:19)

If you're that dumb to think 12,000 expelled Serbs who lived there took part in ethnic cleansing, there's no hope in ever expecting you people to change. If you're even dumb enough to think those returning for religious reasons are the one returning to the scene of a crime you use to score sympathy points, there's no hope for "Kosova".

Indeed it was "Good Friday". Actually, it was a "Great Friday"!! LOL

"...and work in"

is this another way of describing the ethnic cleansing you took part in?
(Dardani, 18 April 2014 13:19)


No, but this sentence is another way of describing the ethnic cleansing that happened in Kosovo:

"..because somebody does not want a reminder that 12,000 Serbs lived there before the conflict in the province, while now there are only four elderly women left."

Or do you think 'ethnic cleansing' only took place when there are 0 out of 12,000 people of an ethnicity left?

@ Dardani
Please explain how the return of 12000 Serbian refugees can be the result of Serbian ethnic cleansing of Albanians. You are either confused or delusional if that is what you think

there's no hope for "Kosova".
(Albo Troll Wrangler, 18 April 2014 15:52)
The fact that Vulin was heading the trip (he never lived there) means it was a political ploy and had nothing to do with religion. You know, I know it and the whole world knows it. It was organized to get the response it did just like Christmas. So you could cry poor oppressed Serbs. Leave Christ out of your games.
Of course would the Albanians have been a little smarter, they would not only have allowed them to come but had several people present them with bouquets of Easter Lilies and had both local and international news cameras there, probably would never be another visit.

Have Serbs informed Russia about this. I bet Russia is busy taking care of its own interests and use Serbs only when needed.

Serbia's constitutiton says Kosovo is a part of Serbia why doesn't Serbia just bring the Serbs where they want to go!

Gjakova is one town where there isn't a single family that did not lose a family member in the last conflict. Forget coming to Gjakova as you are unwelcome and stop inciting hate and violence. Why do you want to come and pray in a town where you have raped, killed and mistreated the entire town population. Lord forgive me but some of you represent the worst the humanity has to offer.

The fact that Vulin was heading the trip (he never lived there) means it was a political ploy
======================
So when the Catholics want to visit the Vatican or your lot wants to visit Mecca or anyone wishing to Visit Jerusalem is all a politcal ploy?
You peopel are disgusting and evil.
You are so full of hate that you have lost all your humanity.

Willi said "You out of all people should keep your mouth shut."

All heil another arrogant know-it-all german ... "Kaiser Willi Pfaff"

I doubt Serbs will ever again be able to go to Gjakova. It would be like allowing Nazis to go to Israel for religious services
=======================
Are you telling us that Croatian, Hungarians or Germans never visit Jerusalem? Their grandfathers were Nazis and yet, the would've gone there.
That doesn't mean that Serbs who wish to go and worhsip anywhere in Kosovo are guilty of anything or their grandfathers are guilty of anything but just saying.

Again, you people are so full of hate, you have no humanity because if you did you wouldn't keep attacking Serbs (including children) time and time again and now denying them access too.

You will be expelled back to your mud huts in Albania. It seem that Orthodox Albanians are ready to convert.

(think about it, 20 April 2014 15:36)

But you seem to forget that Albanians kicked out everyone that was not Albanian including their brothers the Croats, ethnic Turks and Albanian Muslim Roma (today these people have to live near Serb settlements to avoid being attacked by your multiethnic loving Albanians).

EU prisons are full of Albanians. If you look at the statistics a certain percentage of all ethnic groups are in prisons but Albanian numbers run well above average.

“4 elderly women stayed kind of indicates the innocent had nothing to fear”

This reminds me of one of Ronald Regan’s press conferences on Nicaragua turmoil in the 1980s where Ronny attempted to show how people wanted to vote no matter what happens. He gave an example of a woman being shot in the shoulder but stood in line waiting her turn to vote. The press then asked who was she and where did she live?
Ronny said it was Maria and show lived in the most populace province and they should go there to find the Maria. In a country where you had 99% catholics how many Maria’s would there be?

Do you know what kind of crimes, violence and rapes you did during the war? do you think people will ever forgot this? If I would be a Serb, I would pray every day for forgivness, what you did to people in Bosnia, Slowenia, Croatia and especially in Kosova.
(be serious, 22 April 2014 14:37)
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Oh enough already.

Nobody is denying that bad things were done to both BY BOTH. The tragedy is that your lot is still attacking us and destroying even our graves and so long after the war. When do you think you need to apologise to us for what you have done to us AFTER the war? When will enough of our blood spilled be enough for you?

You are so full of hate that you have lost all your humanity.
(Peggy, 20 April 2014 02:39)
You out of all people should keep your mouth shut. As one of the main supporters of serb facism here you really have the nerve to talk about humanity? You do not even know what the word means.

You out of all people should keep your mouth shut. As one of the main supporters of serb facism here you really have the nerve to talk about humanity? You do not even know what the word means.
(Willi Pfaff, 21 April 2014 11:27)
==========================

Wow, hit a nerve?

If you're that dumb to think 12,000 expelled Serbs who lived there took part in ethnic cleansing, there's no hope in ever expecting you people to change.
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Look there are 100s of Gjakovar Albanians who are still not found and their mothers suffering is the reason this is going on, when there are mass graves with loved ones in Serbia under buildings and until the remains of those people are not return to rest in peace it will be difficult.

Wounds need to heal and 15 years its not enough time for the atrocities that Serbian people caused in this town, its easy said when you have not lost your 2 Sons and Husband and still have not been able to barry them in peace this is just one case.

Once the loved ones have been returned then we will be able to move on, also yes not all Serbs committed atrocities but since they wore masks its hard to distinguish them.

Here are some videos to make it more clear for you:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TWjMc8jqPo]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpYfFDj9mSE]

So this is the pain the Serbs caused and in respect to the victims they need to allow more healing, for anything Serbs should know as they lost many people in Croatia in 140's and still painful for those who live there after 70 years so allow this people the time.

I doubt Serbs will ever again be able to go to Gjakova. It would be like allowing Nazis to go to Israel for religious services. You must remember that over 90% of Albanian houses in Gjakova were destroyed by Serbs and almost everyone lost a family member. The Serb aggressors wore masks, therefore, even Serb neighbors could have been involved in the war crimes against Albanian Gjakovar inhabitants.

So when the Catholics want to visit the Vatican or your lot wants to visit Mecca or anyone wishing to Visit Jerusalem is all a politcal ploy?
You peopel are disgusting and evil.
You are so full of hate that you have lost all your humanity.
(Peggy, 20 April 2014 02:39
Oh cut the crap Peggy, you know it was a political stage! And yes if any of these people had a hand in the slaughter of these cities and wanted to go to these cities with hatred in their heart for the people who are there, yes it is a political and not a Christian act.
It is you that is so filled with hatred that you have lost your humanity.

Or do you think 'ethnic cleansing' only took place when there are 0 out of 12,000 people of an ethnicity left?
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 April 2014 17:07)
Serbs who fled Kosovo did so as the Serb police and military did. Why because they were afraid that without the Serbs to protect them that there would be revenge attacks for actions that happened. At this point it as not a case of the Albanians actually driving the people out.
The fact that 4 elderly women stayed kind of indicates the innocent had nothing to fear.
Guilt lies in varying degrees. I am not Albanian but if someone kills my family and you watch and you do not even condemn or speak out about the action, to me you are as guilty as the gunman. 15 years later if you still think it was ok, do you really expect me to embrace you and say that is all water under the bridge?
Whats worse is that should an elderly woman who lost her husband and sons throws a rock at your bus, you start screaming to the UN that her crime is worse than what happened to her.
Can you say you would act differently? If you say yes, you are lying.
Now on top of that you support a system of saying I still want this land without you on it. Compassion is a 2 way street.

"This message that the Priština interim institutions do not want Serbs in Ðakovica is more than clear. Ðakovica is a forbidden town for Serbs, because somebody does not want a reminder that 12,000 Serbs lived there before the conflict in the province, while now there are only four elderly women left."

Yet again, Vulin is talking out of his arse and making up figures for political and propaganda purposes; this is very Goebbels-esque of him.

According to the OSCE there were 3,000 Serbs in Gjakova municipality prior to the War, not 12,000 as Vulin incorrectly claims.

As to Vulin's false claim that there are "only four elderly women left", this is another lie. According to the 2011 census, there were 17 Serbs in Gjakova and one must bare in mind that many Serbs boycotted this census so the true figure will be even higher.

This reminds me of .... where Ronny attempted to show how people wanted to vote no matter what happens. He gave an example of a woman being shot in the shoulder but stood in line waiting her turn to vote. The press then asked who was she and where did she live?
Ronny said it was Maria and show lived in the most populace province and they should go there to find the Maria. In a country where you had 99% catholics how many Maria’s would there be?
(sj, 22 April 2014 02:50)
Don.t know what this has to do with the price of eggs in China but if you are speaking of my mention of 4 elderly women, that is the very last line of the article, did you by chance read it or just jump on the forum and start spouting.
I am glad to hear that these people (according to you) live near the Serb settlements for protection, now we have the clear picture, the Serbs in Kosovo do not live in fear and persecution as everyone claims, they are strong enough to protect others, I guess you blow Peggys claims that they all live behind barb wire fences away. Of course anyone who has been to Kosovo knows that is not true.
I could care less about how many Albanians are in EU prisons and their percentages, I am not pro Albanian just pro Kosovo should be independent and not under Serbia, but I am sure you really don't know actual numbers, it is one of your "Hey I think I will write this" moments.
Thanks for the ReAgan story, so you can't prove it wasn't true, but just want to insinuate.

Do you know what kind of crimes, violence and rapes you did during the war? do you think people will ever forgot this? If I would be a Serb, I would pray every day for forgivness, what you did to people in Bosnia, Slowenia, Croatia and especially in Kosova.

destroying even our graves and so long after the war. When do you think you need to apologise to us for what you have done to us AFTER the war? When will enough of our blood spilled be enough for you?
(Peggy, 23 April 2014 01:31)
Oh I agree wholeheartedly, vandalizing deserted graveyards is so much worse than say locking elderly, women, and children in a restaurant and lobbing grenades through the window. Just maybe the Serbs should have dug up all the Serb graves instead of the Albanians and transported them to Serbia and placed them in mass graves or refrigerated trucks and placed them in the river, that way the graves would have been protected within Serbia, so much more humane, you think?