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Thursday, 17.04.2014.

14:06

Putin: They'd like to tear us apart like they did Yugoslavia

Vladimir Putin says there is a desire to do to Russians and Ukrainians what had been done to former Yugoslavia - tear them into pieces and then manipulate them.

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icj1

pre 10 godina

I have repeated myself many time that both China and Russia are working together and when they were ready they would take on the Un ited States of Piss and Wind and they are ready.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

But the Un ited States of Piss and Wind has already collapsed according to the CE of B92 forums sj... Why would China and Russia waste time with something not existent? As superpowers, China and Russia have more important things to do...
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What do you think the Russians are doing in Ukraine? Looking for a warm place to vacation? Read up on the importance of Crimea as I am tired of educating backward Albanians and I am tied of the Windbags threatening with more sanctions – what sanctions? Put up of f****** shut the hell up
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

Of course everybody knows that Crimea is important. That's why Ukraine was the super-super power of the world until March 2014

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

Now if the Russians don’t help the Serbs this time then you can repeat what you have said.
(sj, 18 April 2014 06:33)

Well, after dumping the Serbs in 1999 (when Mr. Lavrov just need to put as much effort as raising his hand in the UNSC to veto UNCR 1244 as Serbs pleaded); after dumping the Serbs again in 2003 (when Mr. Putin withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo); Russia dumped the Serbs once again one month ago when doing and arguing for the opposite of what Serbia says in regards to Kosovo and supporting Kosovo's arguments. How much more evidence you need, dear :)

icj1

pre 10 godina

Once Ukraine is done, the next will be regime change in Romania; Bulgaria is already in the bag and Hungary has said it wants more involvement with Russia. Gasprom is not building Southstream for nothing. Once that is done Russia’s domination of Europe will be complete. Russia controls everything coming from the Caspian Sea oil and gas. It also supplies Turkey with energy.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

I'm so excited after reading the above... When will all these heavenly things happen mate?... I want to still be alive and celebrate with you when Russia dominates the universe.
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Forget the UN as not a shot will be fired over Kosovo mate – you will be forced to negotiate with Belgrade.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

Negotiate?! We just established that Russia will dominate the universe, so they will return Kosovo to Serbia. What's to negotiate?!
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Where is NATO over Ukraine?
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

I missed it... When did Ukraine became a NATO member so that NATO should do something?!
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Why do you think Nikolic said only yesterday that on the question of going to court over the 1999 bombing it was usless because the court was stacked with western stoges – my words not his – he was more diplomatic. He also said soon all will change.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

If he said it, then it will certainly happen for the joy of all of the world and universe.

icj1

pre 10 godina

The west is utmost cynic and merciless. They will spit at you with a great pleasure as they dislike and despise you more than you can imagine now. Your diaspora tries hard to boost this hatred. You know the truth is that nobody loves you but the Turks and it irritates Europe even more. So they will betray you at the first opportunity. Last night the Ukrainian FM was 4 times sent away to smoke while Russia and the US discussed the fate of his country. Albanians have lost their chance for knockout victory and you have to adjust yourselves to the 21 century’s realities. But you behave as if you still can put terms. Thus one day the Snake may be sent to smoke. So don’t be prisoners of your imagination.
(rote, 18 April 2014 12:02)

I'm sure that the Albanians really appreciate your concern for their well being. I'd recommend that you become an adviser to Kosovo's government so they can implement the policies that you described above and make Kosovo succeed in the 21st century.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"So what I mean is that Albanians are sentenced to find compromise with the Serbs."

Absolutely rote. And Serbs with Albanians. And that is what is going on in Brussels right now. The people elected by the Serbs to represent them are talking and finding compromises with the people elected by the Albanians to represent them. These talks are blessed by Russia as well, as we've heard many times. So everything is going according to what you want and suggest. It is good that we cleared this up :).

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58
Well I guess you have your future and I have mine, the pity is I don't think you will be so happy should yours come true.
True though not a shot shall be fired over Kosovo, its a lost cause and Russia really has no interest.

rote

pre 10 godina

Brandon

“Albanians have two independent countries”

• Really ? and by the way how many independent Albanian states are there in your current business plan ?
“Albanians are part of the West”

• Are you serious ? Should they settle things with Serbs they will tell you the value of sex before and after the sex.

“Pointing out your type of behavior is not calling names”

• OK be it a ceasefire but best if your compatriots will also sustain. Besides I mean it when I say that Serbs are the most important people for you. So be patient and make peace not war. They scare no one especially after Russia granted them a hope.

PS Don’t pay attention to how I or other people behave. Solve your Albanian problems or your American problems if you insist that you are a part of the west.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

Rote,
Pointing out your type of behavior is not calling names. Albanians have two independent countries (one of them in NATO), and are an important founding component (with a self-determination option) in a third one (Macedonia).It's Serbs whom must come to terms with the new reality on the ground. Albanians are part of the West, not ally of it.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 18 April 2014 11:20)
Where do I start? The Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan.
I have repeated myself many time that both China and Russia are working together and when they were ready they would take on the Un ited States of Piss and Wind and they are ready.
What do you think the Russians are doing in Ukraine? Looking for a warm place to vacation? Read up on the importance of Crimea as I am tired of educating backward Albanians and I am tied of the Windbags threatening with more sanctions – what sanctions? Put up of f****** shut the hell up – Windbag Obama.
Once Ukraine is done, the next will be regime change in Romania; Bulgaria is already in the bag and Hungary has said it wants more involvement with Russia. Gasprom is not building Southstream for nothing. Once that is done Russia’s domination of Europe will be complete. Russia controls everything coming from the Caspian Sea oil and gas. It also supplies Turkey with energy.
Forget the UN as not a shot will be fired over Kosovo mate – you will be forced to negotiate with Belgrade. Where is NATO over Ukraine? Oh that’s right in the Baltic Sea holding exercises in case Russia wants to invade maybe New York!!!!!!!!
Why do you think Nikolic said only yesterday that on the question of going to court over the 1999 bombing it was usless because the court was stacked with western stoges – my words not his – he was more diplomatic. He also said soon all will change.

rote

pre 10 godina

Reader
Brandon
The C*nt

Calling names gives you no way out. So what I mean is that Albanians are sentenced to find compromise with the Serbs. For the time being the effect of demonization of the Serbs is fast vanishing and Russia tributes to it very much. Meanwhile the reputation of the Albanians is constantly worsening so you cannot any longer exploit the image of the innocent victims. People in Europe got tired even of the Holocaust to say nothing of the Albanian legends. Now if you take into consideration the fast vanishing monopoly of the west for many things you will have to assume that the Albanians are in zeitnot. Besides your relations with all other neighbors are nothing better than those of the Serbs. So stop bluffing with the old and beaten cards.

The west is utmost cynic and merciless. They will spit at you with a great pleasure as they dislike and despise you more than you can imagine now. Your diaspora tries hard to boost this hatred. You know the truth is that nobody loves you but the Turks and it irritates Europe even more. So they will betray you at the first opportunity. Last night the Ukrainian FM was 4 times sent away to smoke while Russia and the US discussed the fate of his country. Albanians have lost their chance for knockout victory and you have to adjust yourselves to the 21 century’s realities. But you behave as if you still can put terms. Thus one day the Snake may be sent to smoke. So don’t be prisoners of your imagination.

pss

pre 10 godina

The US/NATO have thrown everything at the Taliban including the kitchen sink and they are about to pack up and leave Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. Please stop dreaming about superior technology –
sj
If that is your measure of a super military, remember that your glorious Russia also did that very same thing, as a matter of fact it is they who left Afghanistan in shambles for the Taliban to gain full control.
There is no use in arguing with your ramblings as you have nothing to back them up and can spew unverified swill all day but lets just focus on your claims that Russia will intervene in Serbia and Kosovo.
Why would they? first, he has shown he is only willing to use words and the ability to BLOCK in the UNSC, when Serbs in Kosovo asked to become Russian citizens for protection all he did was say I'm sorry but OUR constitution does not allow for this and threw them some trinkets like scraps on a table to dogs. Even was embarrassed by having the convoy held at the border for 3 days waiting on the EU say ok you can come in now.
Your Serb govt has no desire to go to war over Kosovo, some people actually want to live a decent life than to remain a 3rd world country to appease your need to get in touch with your roots.
This time NO UN APPROVAL is needed to defend Kosovo, they already have Russia's blessing on that one and it takes a UNSC resolution to revoke that.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikola Vujovic, 17 April 2014 16:33)

Russia in the 1990s and early part of 2000s was in no shape help anyone. Its economy was in taters and its military was in a worse postion with the only thing saving it from being dismembered was its nuclear arsenal. Bill Clinton told Yeltsin that they either obey them or no IMF loans and this would have led to starvation and civil unrest, so Russia had to keep quiet and NATO bombed Serbia.
’only limitations is there technology and reach! ’What technology are you talking about? The US/NATO have thrown everything at the Taliban including the kitchen sink and they are about to pack up and leave Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. Please stop dreaming about superior technology – it BS.
The US claims it spends $650 billion on defence then if it has this superior techonlogy it would be flying the USS Enterprise to other planets and not the ship Enterprise. Sadly what is really happening with that money is that large corporations are selling the government hammers for $100 when you can buy one for $5 at Walmart. During the Iraq war Halliburton was selling the US military petrol for $1.20 per gallon while they could have purchased the same from Kuwait for 20 cents. Plastic toilet seats $500 each while at Walmart they were $25.
Now if the Russians don’t help the Serbs this time then you can repeat what you have said. But they have just won Ukraine. Next is regime change in Romania and then it’s to the Balkans.

roberto

pre 10 godina

'Trix are for kids!' Love it, Rocky. But then Putin ain't no kid, he's a fascist scumbag and Stalin wannabe. Let's not underestimate him - he's a very dangerous actor. robeto frisco

Brandon

pre 10 godina

Rote,
Good neighborly relations are a two way street.For you to threaten Albanians into good relations with Serbs is hypocritical in nature.To hide under umbrella of Russia in order to accomplish that threat, it's plain cowardice.

Avni

pre 10 godina

Has Putin lost it or is he just trying to be funny? He himself is tearing up Ukraine and blaming others. Didn't he annex Crimea? Now he's trying to do the same to eastern Ukraine. By the way people of former Yugoslavia tore up Yugoslavia themselves, not foreigners. Nobody can come to your house and tell you what to do. We all know Serbs became greedy and bit more than they can chew. The rest as they say is history.

Bob

pre 10 godina

Who split Yugoslavia?

Milosevic

Tudgeman

Slovenians

Croatians

Albanians

Montenegrins

Macedonians

......

Putin has become dangerous.

Ukraine is not his patch and he should stop interfering.

Reader

pre 10 godina

I personally wouldn’t like to have such stubborn rivals. What about you ?
(rote, 17 April 2014 15:28)

Agreed rote, nobody would like to have such stubborn rivals and neighbors. Stubborns do not move an inch, do not compromise, are arrogant, have no empathy. So, one problem with your (hypocrite) reasoning is, you are asking albanians to negotiate with stubborns. The major problem with your reasoning is, however, in the premise, Serbia is not really as stubborn as it used to be.

The other problem with your posts is the insults that appear there. You show no respect for the other part but try to be "reasonable" and talk about neighbors. You are funny all around :). Like Putin who says, "I don't know, maybe we have to send the army there, maybe we'll have no choice. I don't really want to do that".

Johnny Travoltast

pre 10 godina

Can any Albanian except Ian pick out the present Ukrainian Foreign Minister on this here recent photo? http://facebookreporter.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/tjagnibok1-copy.jpg

Comm. Parrissn

pre 10 godina

Amazing. Who is trying (well, not only trying, unfortunately) to tear the Ukraine apart? You know the answer, Mr.Putin.

In case you don't know: The Soviet Union where Ukraine, Russia and some mor were Republics of the federation doesn't exist any more since some decades.

NM

pre 10 godina

God I love this MAN. I might name my son Vladimir if I have one. He really is champion of the truth unlike these pathetic individuals like Rocky et al who can only espouse their racist views and historic revisionism day after day.

Nikola Vujovic

pre 10 godina

Some people really like to avoid reality. Lets remember Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the secret protocol that the Soviets had with Hitler. You can add the economic blockade and expulsion from COMINFORM as well when Tito split with Stalin. Anybody who has studied history knows Russia has a history of abandoning Serbia when its in there interest (as it has been on many occasions). Russian ran from Kosovo in 2003...a variety of excuses...but the fact is the myth of "brotherhood" meant nothing to Putin(who of course made the decision). Just imagine the position we would be in negotiating in Brussels if Russian military still stretched across the North. Please skip the freedom stuff about Russia...they do the same as the USA, only limitations is there technology and reach!

http://mashable.com/2014/04/16/vkontakte-founder-fsb-euromaidan/

Questioner

pre 10 godina

"Putin also stated that he hoped he would not have to use the right to order the deployment of Russia’s military forces in Ukraine"

Which right? The right to invade a foreign country which were given the green light by Russian assembly?

Maybe I should ask my family about giving me the 'right' to steal my neighbors car? Unbelievable, this Putin. What does he try to achieve with his clown-like behavior?

Rocky

pre 10 godina

And one more thing if like to add, Serbia can always try to reclaim parts of former Yugoslavia, if she insists! Remember the key word here is try!!!

rote

pre 10 godina

Nikolle , Rocky , C*nt of Kosova & Co

Alboholic people cannot be same stupid as their comments here. I do believe that people on this globe are more or less the same. So your greatest problem is how to legalize the stolen lands and justify the NATO aggression as the main tool you have used. Now that you are terrified of how helpless NATO is you naturally worry about your future and the future of your children. This much I can understand. What I fail to explain is why you seek no compromise with those who generate the biggest threat to you. I mean the Serbs. If you missed the message today I can remind you what Putin said about the Transdniestria. He hinted that we are going there … What will be his next stop ? Exactly !

When you know that Yanks will wipe their foots over you why not to look for other options ? In 1941 Germans were very close to turn Iran and Afghanistan against the USSR. Loya Jirga in Kabul was discussing the issue whom to join for 3 days. In the end they took the Russian side. As they said Russians were their neighbors whom their children will also be neighboring while Germans will sooner or later go home. The Iranians were not that smart so Russia and Britain occupied them for 5 years. Can you see the parallels ? Serbs will be your neighbors in the next century too. With Russia behind them … I personally wouldn’t like to have such stubborn rivals. What about you ?

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Putin,

You may be able to hoodwink your lackey comrades in Serbia but, don't expect to fool anyone else. This morning, even American school children are rolling on the floor laughing at your double talk. How can you say such ridiculous things with a straight face. You are the emperor with out clothes. Attend to your mental health.

In the mean time, the USA is about to become the world's leading producer of oil. Read between the lines.

Dragan

pre 10 godina

This man is definitely the leader of the free world. He speaks the truth, and the neocon war criminals absolutely hate it! He is outsmarting them at every turn, exposing their breathtaking hypocrisy, and is a true example for all freedom loving people everywhere. Bravo Vladimir, keep on telling the truth, despite all the anti-Russian propaganda being spewed by ignorant nazi loving warmongers, most of the world is behind you.
Cheers!!

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Oh dear, paranoia has gripped Putin. With Scotlands referendum, are they now working to break up the UK as well, or was it only Yugoslavia that was worth the experiment?

Reader

pre 10 godina

"Putin also stated that he hoped he would not have to use the right to order the deployment of Russia’s military forces in Ukraine"

This can only mean that he will send Russian troops in Ukraine.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Come on czar Putin, you were Yeltsin's right hand man when artificial Yugoslavia came down like a house of cards! Your other mentor, "Primakov" had his jet make a u turn mid flight! Don't give us the impression you personally weren't in on the unraveling of frm, Yugo! Trix are for kids buddy!!!

Dragan

pre 10 godina

This man is definitely the leader of the free world. He speaks the truth, and the neocon war criminals absolutely hate it! He is outsmarting them at every turn, exposing their breathtaking hypocrisy, and is a true example for all freedom loving people everywhere. Bravo Vladimir, keep on telling the truth, despite all the anti-Russian propaganda being spewed by ignorant nazi loving warmongers, most of the world is behind you.
Cheers!!

rote

pre 10 godina

Nikolle , Rocky , C*nt of Kosova & Co

Alboholic people cannot be same stupid as their comments here. I do believe that people on this globe are more or less the same. So your greatest problem is how to legalize the stolen lands and justify the NATO aggression as the main tool you have used. Now that you are terrified of how helpless NATO is you naturally worry about your future and the future of your children. This much I can understand. What I fail to explain is why you seek no compromise with those who generate the biggest threat to you. I mean the Serbs. If you missed the message today I can remind you what Putin said about the Transdniestria. He hinted that we are going there … What will be his next stop ? Exactly !

When you know that Yanks will wipe their foots over you why not to look for other options ? In 1941 Germans were very close to turn Iran and Afghanistan against the USSR. Loya Jirga in Kabul was discussing the issue whom to join for 3 days. In the end they took the Russian side. As they said Russians were their neighbors whom their children will also be neighboring while Germans will sooner or later go home. The Iranians were not that smart so Russia and Britain occupied them for 5 years. Can you see the parallels ? Serbs will be your neighbors in the next century too. With Russia behind them … I personally wouldn’t like to have such stubborn rivals. What about you ?

NM

pre 10 godina

God I love this MAN. I might name my son Vladimir if I have one. He really is champion of the truth unlike these pathetic individuals like Rocky et al who can only espouse their racist views and historic revisionism day after day.

Questioner

pre 10 godina

"Putin also stated that he hoped he would not have to use the right to order the deployment of Russia’s military forces in Ukraine"

Which right? The right to invade a foreign country which were given the green light by Russian assembly?

Maybe I should ask my family about giving me the 'right' to steal my neighbors car? Unbelievable, this Putin. What does he try to achieve with his clown-like behavior?

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Putin,

You may be able to hoodwink your lackey comrades in Serbia but, don't expect to fool anyone else. This morning, even American school children are rolling on the floor laughing at your double talk. How can you say such ridiculous things with a straight face. You are the emperor with out clothes. Attend to your mental health.

In the mean time, the USA is about to become the world's leading producer of oil. Read between the lines.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Come on czar Putin, you were Yeltsin's right hand man when artificial Yugoslavia came down like a house of cards! Your other mentor, "Primakov" had his jet make a u turn mid flight! Don't give us the impression you personally weren't in on the unraveling of frm, Yugo! Trix are for kids buddy!!!

Comm. Parrissn

pre 10 godina

Amazing. Who is trying (well, not only trying, unfortunately) to tear the Ukraine apart? You know the answer, Mr.Putin.

In case you don't know: The Soviet Union where Ukraine, Russia and some mor were Republics of the federation doesn't exist any more since some decades.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Oh dear, paranoia has gripped Putin. With Scotlands referendum, are they now working to break up the UK as well, or was it only Yugoslavia that was worth the experiment?

Rocky

pre 10 godina

And one more thing if like to add, Serbia can always try to reclaim parts of former Yugoslavia, if she insists! Remember the key word here is try!!!

Reader

pre 10 godina

"Putin also stated that he hoped he would not have to use the right to order the deployment of Russia’s military forces in Ukraine"

This can only mean that he will send Russian troops in Ukraine.

Bob

pre 10 godina

Who split Yugoslavia?

Milosevic

Tudgeman

Slovenians

Croatians

Albanians

Montenegrins

Macedonians

......

Putin has become dangerous.

Ukraine is not his patch and he should stop interfering.

Nikola Vujovic

pre 10 godina

Some people really like to avoid reality. Lets remember Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the secret protocol that the Soviets had with Hitler. You can add the economic blockade and expulsion from COMINFORM as well when Tito split with Stalin. Anybody who has studied history knows Russia has a history of abandoning Serbia when its in there interest (as it has been on many occasions). Russian ran from Kosovo in 2003...a variety of excuses...but the fact is the myth of "brotherhood" meant nothing to Putin(who of course made the decision). Just imagine the position we would be in negotiating in Brussels if Russian military still stretched across the North. Please skip the freedom stuff about Russia...they do the same as the USA, only limitations is there technology and reach!

http://mashable.com/2014/04/16/vkontakte-founder-fsb-euromaidan/

Reader

pre 10 godina

I personally wouldn’t like to have such stubborn rivals. What about you ?
(rote, 17 April 2014 15:28)

Agreed rote, nobody would like to have such stubborn rivals and neighbors. Stubborns do not move an inch, do not compromise, are arrogant, have no empathy. So, one problem with your (hypocrite) reasoning is, you are asking albanians to negotiate with stubborns. The major problem with your reasoning is, however, in the premise, Serbia is not really as stubborn as it used to be.

The other problem with your posts is the insults that appear there. You show no respect for the other part but try to be "reasonable" and talk about neighbors. You are funny all around :). Like Putin who says, "I don't know, maybe we have to send the army there, maybe we'll have no choice. I don't really want to do that".

Brandon

pre 10 godina

Rote,
Good neighborly relations are a two way street.For you to threaten Albanians into good relations with Serbs is hypocritical in nature.To hide under umbrella of Russia in order to accomplish that threat, it's plain cowardice.

rote

pre 10 godina

Reader
Brandon
The C*nt

Calling names gives you no way out. So what I mean is that Albanians are sentenced to find compromise with the Serbs. For the time being the effect of demonization of the Serbs is fast vanishing and Russia tributes to it very much. Meanwhile the reputation of the Albanians is constantly worsening so you cannot any longer exploit the image of the innocent victims. People in Europe got tired even of the Holocaust to say nothing of the Albanian legends. Now if you take into consideration the fast vanishing monopoly of the west for many things you will have to assume that the Albanians are in zeitnot. Besides your relations with all other neighbors are nothing better than those of the Serbs. So stop bluffing with the old and beaten cards.

The west is utmost cynic and merciless. They will spit at you with a great pleasure as they dislike and despise you more than you can imagine now. Your diaspora tries hard to boost this hatred. You know the truth is that nobody loves you but the Turks and it irritates Europe even more. So they will betray you at the first opportunity. Last night the Ukrainian FM was 4 times sent away to smoke while Russia and the US discussed the fate of his country. Albanians have lost their chance for knockout victory and you have to adjust yourselves to the 21 century’s realities. But you behave as if you still can put terms. Thus one day the Snake may be sent to smoke. So don’t be prisoners of your imagination.

roberto

pre 10 godina

'Trix are for kids!' Love it, Rocky. But then Putin ain't no kid, he's a fascist scumbag and Stalin wannabe. Let's not underestimate him - he's a very dangerous actor. robeto frisco

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 18 April 2014 11:20)
Where do I start? The Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan.
I have repeated myself many time that both China and Russia are working together and when they were ready they would take on the Un ited States of Piss and Wind and they are ready.
What do you think the Russians are doing in Ukraine? Looking for a warm place to vacation? Read up on the importance of Crimea as I am tired of educating backward Albanians and I am tied of the Windbags threatening with more sanctions – what sanctions? Put up of f****** shut the hell up – Windbag Obama.
Once Ukraine is done, the next will be regime change in Romania; Bulgaria is already in the bag and Hungary has said it wants more involvement with Russia. Gasprom is not building Southstream for nothing. Once that is done Russia’s domination of Europe will be complete. Russia controls everything coming from the Caspian Sea oil and gas. It also supplies Turkey with energy.
Forget the UN as not a shot will be fired over Kosovo mate – you will be forced to negotiate with Belgrade. Where is NATO over Ukraine? Oh that’s right in the Baltic Sea holding exercises in case Russia wants to invade maybe New York!!!!!!!!
Why do you think Nikolic said only yesterday that on the question of going to court over the 1999 bombing it was usless because the court was stacked with western stoges – my words not his – he was more diplomatic. He also said soon all will change.

Avni

pre 10 godina

Has Putin lost it or is he just trying to be funny? He himself is tearing up Ukraine and blaming others. Didn't he annex Crimea? Now he's trying to do the same to eastern Ukraine. By the way people of former Yugoslavia tore up Yugoslavia themselves, not foreigners. Nobody can come to your house and tell you what to do. We all know Serbs became greedy and bit more than they can chew. The rest as they say is history.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

Rote,
Pointing out your type of behavior is not calling names. Albanians have two independent countries (one of them in NATO), and are an important founding component (with a self-determination option) in a third one (Macedonia).It's Serbs whom must come to terms with the new reality on the ground. Albanians are part of the West, not ally of it.

rote

pre 10 godina

Brandon

“Albanians have two independent countries”

• Really ? and by the way how many independent Albanian states are there in your current business plan ?
“Albanians are part of the West”

• Are you serious ? Should they settle things with Serbs they will tell you the value of sex before and after the sex.

“Pointing out your type of behavior is not calling names”

• OK be it a ceasefire but best if your compatriots will also sustain. Besides I mean it when I say that Serbs are the most important people for you. So be patient and make peace not war. They scare no one especially after Russia granted them a hope.

PS Don’t pay attention to how I or other people behave. Solve your Albanian problems or your American problems if you insist that you are a part of the west.

Johnny Travoltast

pre 10 godina

Can any Albanian except Ian pick out the present Ukrainian Foreign Minister on this here recent photo? http://facebookreporter.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/tjagnibok1-copy.jpg

icj1

pre 10 godina

Now if the Russians don’t help the Serbs this time then you can repeat what you have said.
(sj, 18 April 2014 06:33)

Well, after dumping the Serbs in 1999 (when Mr. Lavrov just need to put as much effort as raising his hand in the UNSC to veto UNCR 1244 as Serbs pleaded); after dumping the Serbs again in 2003 (when Mr. Putin withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo); Russia dumped the Serbs once again one month ago when doing and arguing for the opposite of what Serbia says in regards to Kosovo and supporting Kosovo's arguments. How much more evidence you need, dear :)

pss

pre 10 godina

The US/NATO have thrown everything at the Taliban including the kitchen sink and they are about to pack up and leave Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. Please stop dreaming about superior technology –
sj
If that is your measure of a super military, remember that your glorious Russia also did that very same thing, as a matter of fact it is they who left Afghanistan in shambles for the Taliban to gain full control.
There is no use in arguing with your ramblings as you have nothing to back them up and can spew unverified swill all day but lets just focus on your claims that Russia will intervene in Serbia and Kosovo.
Why would they? first, he has shown he is only willing to use words and the ability to BLOCK in the UNSC, when Serbs in Kosovo asked to become Russian citizens for protection all he did was say I'm sorry but OUR constitution does not allow for this and threw them some trinkets like scraps on a table to dogs. Even was embarrassed by having the convoy held at the border for 3 days waiting on the EU say ok you can come in now.
Your Serb govt has no desire to go to war over Kosovo, some people actually want to live a decent life than to remain a 3rd world country to appease your need to get in touch with your roots.
This time NO UN APPROVAL is needed to defend Kosovo, they already have Russia's blessing on that one and it takes a UNSC resolution to revoke that.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Once Ukraine is done, the next will be regime change in Romania; Bulgaria is already in the bag and Hungary has said it wants more involvement with Russia. Gasprom is not building Southstream for nothing. Once that is done Russia’s domination of Europe will be complete. Russia controls everything coming from the Caspian Sea oil and gas. It also supplies Turkey with energy.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

I'm so excited after reading the above... When will all these heavenly things happen mate?... I want to still be alive and celebrate with you when Russia dominates the universe.
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Forget the UN as not a shot will be fired over Kosovo mate – you will be forced to negotiate with Belgrade.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

Negotiate?! We just established that Russia will dominate the universe, so they will return Kosovo to Serbia. What's to negotiate?!
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Where is NATO over Ukraine?
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

I missed it... When did Ukraine became a NATO member so that NATO should do something?!
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Why do you think Nikolic said only yesterday that on the question of going to court over the 1999 bombing it was usless because the court was stacked with western stoges – my words not his – he was more diplomatic. He also said soon all will change.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

If he said it, then it will certainly happen for the joy of all of the world and universe.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikola Vujovic, 17 April 2014 16:33)

Russia in the 1990s and early part of 2000s was in no shape help anyone. Its economy was in taters and its military was in a worse postion with the only thing saving it from being dismembered was its nuclear arsenal. Bill Clinton told Yeltsin that they either obey them or no IMF loans and this would have led to starvation and civil unrest, so Russia had to keep quiet and NATO bombed Serbia.
’only limitations is there technology and reach! ’What technology are you talking about? The US/NATO have thrown everything at the Taliban including the kitchen sink and they are about to pack up and leave Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. Please stop dreaming about superior technology – it BS.
The US claims it spends $650 billion on defence then if it has this superior techonlogy it would be flying the USS Enterprise to other planets and not the ship Enterprise. Sadly what is really happening with that money is that large corporations are selling the government hammers for $100 when you can buy one for $5 at Walmart. During the Iraq war Halliburton was selling the US military petrol for $1.20 per gallon while they could have purchased the same from Kuwait for 20 cents. Plastic toilet seats $500 each while at Walmart they were $25.
Now if the Russians don’t help the Serbs this time then you can repeat what you have said. But they have just won Ukraine. Next is regime change in Romania and then it’s to the Balkans.

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58
Well I guess you have your future and I have mine, the pity is I don't think you will be so happy should yours come true.
True though not a shot shall be fired over Kosovo, its a lost cause and Russia really has no interest.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"So what I mean is that Albanians are sentenced to find compromise with the Serbs."

Absolutely rote. And Serbs with Albanians. And that is what is going on in Brussels right now. The people elected by the Serbs to represent them are talking and finding compromises with the people elected by the Albanians to represent them. These talks are blessed by Russia as well, as we've heard many times. So everything is going according to what you want and suggest. It is good that we cleared this up :).

icj1

pre 10 godina

The west is utmost cynic and merciless. They will spit at you with a great pleasure as they dislike and despise you more than you can imagine now. Your diaspora tries hard to boost this hatred. You know the truth is that nobody loves you but the Turks and it irritates Europe even more. So they will betray you at the first opportunity. Last night the Ukrainian FM was 4 times sent away to smoke while Russia and the US discussed the fate of his country. Albanians have lost their chance for knockout victory and you have to adjust yourselves to the 21 century’s realities. But you behave as if you still can put terms. Thus one day the Snake may be sent to smoke. So don’t be prisoners of your imagination.
(rote, 18 April 2014 12:02)

I'm sure that the Albanians really appreciate your concern for their well being. I'd recommend that you become an adviser to Kosovo's government so they can implement the policies that you described above and make Kosovo succeed in the 21st century.

icj1

pre 10 godina

I have repeated myself many time that both China and Russia are working together and when they were ready they would take on the Un ited States of Piss and Wind and they are ready.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

But the Un ited States of Piss and Wind has already collapsed according to the CE of B92 forums sj... Why would China and Russia waste time with something not existent? As superpowers, China and Russia have more important things to do...
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What do you think the Russians are doing in Ukraine? Looking for a warm place to vacation? Read up on the importance of Crimea as I am tired of educating backward Albanians and I am tied of the Windbags threatening with more sanctions – what sanctions? Put up of f****** shut the hell up
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

Of course everybody knows that Crimea is important. That's why Ukraine was the super-super power of the world until March 2014

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Oh dear, paranoia has gripped Putin. With Scotlands referendum, are they now working to break up the UK as well, or was it only Yugoslavia that was worth the experiment?

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Come on czar Putin, you were Yeltsin's right hand man when artificial Yugoslavia came down like a house of cards! Your other mentor, "Primakov" had his jet make a u turn mid flight! Don't give us the impression you personally weren't in on the unraveling of frm, Yugo! Trix are for kids buddy!!!

Rocky

pre 10 godina

And one more thing if like to add, Serbia can always try to reclaim parts of former Yugoslavia, if she insists! Remember the key word here is try!!!

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Putin,

You may be able to hoodwink your lackey comrades in Serbia but, don't expect to fool anyone else. This morning, even American school children are rolling on the floor laughing at your double talk. How can you say such ridiculous things with a straight face. You are the emperor with out clothes. Attend to your mental health.

In the mean time, the USA is about to become the world's leading producer of oil. Read between the lines.

Questioner

pre 10 godina

"Putin also stated that he hoped he would not have to use the right to order the deployment of Russia’s military forces in Ukraine"

Which right? The right to invade a foreign country which were given the green light by Russian assembly?

Maybe I should ask my family about giving me the 'right' to steal my neighbors car? Unbelievable, this Putin. What does he try to achieve with his clown-like behavior?

NM

pre 10 godina

God I love this MAN. I might name my son Vladimir if I have one. He really is champion of the truth unlike these pathetic individuals like Rocky et al who can only espouse their racist views and historic revisionism day after day.

Bob

pre 10 godina

Who split Yugoslavia?

Milosevic

Tudgeman

Slovenians

Croatians

Albanians

Montenegrins

Macedonians

......

Putin has become dangerous.

Ukraine is not his patch and he should stop interfering.

Dragan

pre 10 godina

This man is definitely the leader of the free world. He speaks the truth, and the neocon war criminals absolutely hate it! He is outsmarting them at every turn, exposing their breathtaking hypocrisy, and is a true example for all freedom loving people everywhere. Bravo Vladimir, keep on telling the truth, despite all the anti-Russian propaganda being spewed by ignorant nazi loving warmongers, most of the world is behind you.
Cheers!!

Comm. Parrissn

pre 10 godina

Amazing. Who is trying (well, not only trying, unfortunately) to tear the Ukraine apart? You know the answer, Mr.Putin.

In case you don't know: The Soviet Union where Ukraine, Russia and some mor were Republics of the federation doesn't exist any more since some decades.

Nikola Vujovic

pre 10 godina

Some people really like to avoid reality. Lets remember Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the secret protocol that the Soviets had with Hitler. You can add the economic blockade and expulsion from COMINFORM as well when Tito split with Stalin. Anybody who has studied history knows Russia has a history of abandoning Serbia when its in there interest (as it has been on many occasions). Russian ran from Kosovo in 2003...a variety of excuses...but the fact is the myth of "brotherhood" meant nothing to Putin(who of course made the decision). Just imagine the position we would be in negotiating in Brussels if Russian military still stretched across the North. Please skip the freedom stuff about Russia...they do the same as the USA, only limitations is there technology and reach!

http://mashable.com/2014/04/16/vkontakte-founder-fsb-euromaidan/

rote

pre 10 godina

Nikolle , Rocky , C*nt of Kosova & Co

Alboholic people cannot be same stupid as their comments here. I do believe that people on this globe are more or less the same. So your greatest problem is how to legalize the stolen lands and justify the NATO aggression as the main tool you have used. Now that you are terrified of how helpless NATO is you naturally worry about your future and the future of your children. This much I can understand. What I fail to explain is why you seek no compromise with those who generate the biggest threat to you. I mean the Serbs. If you missed the message today I can remind you what Putin said about the Transdniestria. He hinted that we are going there … What will be his next stop ? Exactly !

When you know that Yanks will wipe their foots over you why not to look for other options ? In 1941 Germans were very close to turn Iran and Afghanistan against the USSR. Loya Jirga in Kabul was discussing the issue whom to join for 3 days. In the end they took the Russian side. As they said Russians were their neighbors whom their children will also be neighboring while Germans will sooner or later go home. The Iranians were not that smart so Russia and Britain occupied them for 5 years. Can you see the parallels ? Serbs will be your neighbors in the next century too. With Russia behind them … I personally wouldn’t like to have such stubborn rivals. What about you ?

Reader

pre 10 godina

"Putin also stated that he hoped he would not have to use the right to order the deployment of Russia’s military forces in Ukraine"

This can only mean that he will send Russian troops in Ukraine.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

Rote,
Pointing out your type of behavior is not calling names. Albanians have two independent countries (one of them in NATO), and are an important founding component (with a self-determination option) in a third one (Macedonia).It's Serbs whom must come to terms with the new reality on the ground. Albanians are part of the West, not ally of it.

Reader

pre 10 godina

I personally wouldn’t like to have such stubborn rivals. What about you ?
(rote, 17 April 2014 15:28)

Agreed rote, nobody would like to have such stubborn rivals and neighbors. Stubborns do not move an inch, do not compromise, are arrogant, have no empathy. So, one problem with your (hypocrite) reasoning is, you are asking albanians to negotiate with stubborns. The major problem with your reasoning is, however, in the premise, Serbia is not really as stubborn as it used to be.

The other problem with your posts is the insults that appear there. You show no respect for the other part but try to be "reasonable" and talk about neighbors. You are funny all around :). Like Putin who says, "I don't know, maybe we have to send the army there, maybe we'll have no choice. I don't really want to do that".

Johnny Travoltast

pre 10 godina

Can any Albanian except Ian pick out the present Ukrainian Foreign Minister on this here recent photo? http://facebookreporter.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/tjagnibok1-copy.jpg

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 18 April 2014 11:20)
Where do I start? The Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan.
I have repeated myself many time that both China and Russia are working together and when they were ready they would take on the Un ited States of Piss and Wind and they are ready.
What do you think the Russians are doing in Ukraine? Looking for a warm place to vacation? Read up on the importance of Crimea as I am tired of educating backward Albanians and I am tied of the Windbags threatening with more sanctions – what sanctions? Put up of f****** shut the hell up – Windbag Obama.
Once Ukraine is done, the next will be regime change in Romania; Bulgaria is already in the bag and Hungary has said it wants more involvement with Russia. Gasprom is not building Southstream for nothing. Once that is done Russia’s domination of Europe will be complete. Russia controls everything coming from the Caspian Sea oil and gas. It also supplies Turkey with energy.
Forget the UN as not a shot will be fired over Kosovo mate – you will be forced to negotiate with Belgrade. Where is NATO over Ukraine? Oh that’s right in the Baltic Sea holding exercises in case Russia wants to invade maybe New York!!!!!!!!
Why do you think Nikolic said only yesterday that on the question of going to court over the 1999 bombing it was usless because the court was stacked with western stoges – my words not his – he was more diplomatic. He also said soon all will change.

rote

pre 10 godina

Brandon

“Albanians have two independent countries”

• Really ? and by the way how many independent Albanian states are there in your current business plan ?
“Albanians are part of the West”

• Are you serious ? Should they settle things with Serbs they will tell you the value of sex before and after the sex.

“Pointing out your type of behavior is not calling names”

• OK be it a ceasefire but best if your compatriots will also sustain. Besides I mean it when I say that Serbs are the most important people for you. So be patient and make peace not war. They scare no one especially after Russia granted them a hope.

PS Don’t pay attention to how I or other people behave. Solve your Albanian problems or your American problems if you insist that you are a part of the west.

Avni

pre 10 godina

Has Putin lost it or is he just trying to be funny? He himself is tearing up Ukraine and blaming others. Didn't he annex Crimea? Now he's trying to do the same to eastern Ukraine. By the way people of former Yugoslavia tore up Yugoslavia themselves, not foreigners. Nobody can come to your house and tell you what to do. We all know Serbs became greedy and bit more than they can chew. The rest as they say is history.

pss

pre 10 godina

The US/NATO have thrown everything at the Taliban including the kitchen sink and they are about to pack up and leave Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. Please stop dreaming about superior technology –
sj
If that is your measure of a super military, remember that your glorious Russia also did that very same thing, as a matter of fact it is they who left Afghanistan in shambles for the Taliban to gain full control.
There is no use in arguing with your ramblings as you have nothing to back them up and can spew unverified swill all day but lets just focus on your claims that Russia will intervene in Serbia and Kosovo.
Why would they? first, he has shown he is only willing to use words and the ability to BLOCK in the UNSC, when Serbs in Kosovo asked to become Russian citizens for protection all he did was say I'm sorry but OUR constitution does not allow for this and threw them some trinkets like scraps on a table to dogs. Even was embarrassed by having the convoy held at the border for 3 days waiting on the EU say ok you can come in now.
Your Serb govt has no desire to go to war over Kosovo, some people actually want to live a decent life than to remain a 3rd world country to appease your need to get in touch with your roots.
This time NO UN APPROVAL is needed to defend Kosovo, they already have Russia's blessing on that one and it takes a UNSC resolution to revoke that.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

Rote,
Good neighborly relations are a two way street.For you to threaten Albanians into good relations with Serbs is hypocritical in nature.To hide under umbrella of Russia in order to accomplish that threat, it's plain cowardice.

roberto

pre 10 godina

'Trix are for kids!' Love it, Rocky. But then Putin ain't no kid, he's a fascist scumbag and Stalin wannabe. Let's not underestimate him - he's a very dangerous actor. robeto frisco

rote

pre 10 godina

Reader
Brandon
The C*nt

Calling names gives you no way out. So what I mean is that Albanians are sentenced to find compromise with the Serbs. For the time being the effect of demonization of the Serbs is fast vanishing and Russia tributes to it very much. Meanwhile the reputation of the Albanians is constantly worsening so you cannot any longer exploit the image of the innocent victims. People in Europe got tired even of the Holocaust to say nothing of the Albanian legends. Now if you take into consideration the fast vanishing monopoly of the west for many things you will have to assume that the Albanians are in zeitnot. Besides your relations with all other neighbors are nothing better than those of the Serbs. So stop bluffing with the old and beaten cards.

The west is utmost cynic and merciless. They will spit at you with a great pleasure as they dislike and despise you more than you can imagine now. Your diaspora tries hard to boost this hatred. You know the truth is that nobody loves you but the Turks and it irritates Europe even more. So they will betray you at the first opportunity. Last night the Ukrainian FM was 4 times sent away to smoke while Russia and the US discussed the fate of his country. Albanians have lost their chance for knockout victory and you have to adjust yourselves to the 21 century’s realities. But you behave as if you still can put terms. Thus one day the Snake may be sent to smoke. So don’t be prisoners of your imagination.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Now if the Russians don’t help the Serbs this time then you can repeat what you have said.
(sj, 18 April 2014 06:33)

Well, after dumping the Serbs in 1999 (when Mr. Lavrov just need to put as much effort as raising his hand in the UNSC to veto UNCR 1244 as Serbs pleaded); after dumping the Serbs again in 2003 (when Mr. Putin withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo); Russia dumped the Serbs once again one month ago when doing and arguing for the opposite of what Serbia says in regards to Kosovo and supporting Kosovo's arguments. How much more evidence you need, dear :)

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikola Vujovic, 17 April 2014 16:33)

Russia in the 1990s and early part of 2000s was in no shape help anyone. Its economy was in taters and its military was in a worse postion with the only thing saving it from being dismembered was its nuclear arsenal. Bill Clinton told Yeltsin that they either obey them or no IMF loans and this would have led to starvation and civil unrest, so Russia had to keep quiet and NATO bombed Serbia.
’only limitations is there technology and reach! ’What technology are you talking about? The US/NATO have thrown everything at the Taliban including the kitchen sink and they are about to pack up and leave Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. Please stop dreaming about superior technology – it BS.
The US claims it spends $650 billion on defence then if it has this superior techonlogy it would be flying the USS Enterprise to other planets and not the ship Enterprise. Sadly what is really happening with that money is that large corporations are selling the government hammers for $100 when you can buy one for $5 at Walmart. During the Iraq war Halliburton was selling the US military petrol for $1.20 per gallon while they could have purchased the same from Kuwait for 20 cents. Plastic toilet seats $500 each while at Walmart they were $25.
Now if the Russians don’t help the Serbs this time then you can repeat what you have said. But they have just won Ukraine. Next is regime change in Romania and then it’s to the Balkans.

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58
Well I guess you have your future and I have mine, the pity is I don't think you will be so happy should yours come true.
True though not a shot shall be fired over Kosovo, its a lost cause and Russia really has no interest.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"So what I mean is that Albanians are sentenced to find compromise with the Serbs."

Absolutely rote. And Serbs with Albanians. And that is what is going on in Brussels right now. The people elected by the Serbs to represent them are talking and finding compromises with the people elected by the Albanians to represent them. These talks are blessed by Russia as well, as we've heard many times. So everything is going according to what you want and suggest. It is good that we cleared this up :).

icj1

pre 10 godina

Once Ukraine is done, the next will be regime change in Romania; Bulgaria is already in the bag and Hungary has said it wants more involvement with Russia. Gasprom is not building Southstream for nothing. Once that is done Russia’s domination of Europe will be complete. Russia controls everything coming from the Caspian Sea oil and gas. It also supplies Turkey with energy.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

I'm so excited after reading the above... When will all these heavenly things happen mate?... I want to still be alive and celebrate with you when Russia dominates the universe.
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Forget the UN as not a shot will be fired over Kosovo mate – you will be forced to negotiate with Belgrade.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

Negotiate?! We just established that Russia will dominate the universe, so they will return Kosovo to Serbia. What's to negotiate?!
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Where is NATO over Ukraine?
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

I missed it... When did Ukraine became a NATO member so that NATO should do something?!
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Why do you think Nikolic said only yesterday that on the question of going to court over the 1999 bombing it was usless because the court was stacked with western stoges – my words not his – he was more diplomatic. He also said soon all will change.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

If he said it, then it will certainly happen for the joy of all of the world and universe.

icj1

pre 10 godina

The west is utmost cynic and merciless. They will spit at you with a great pleasure as they dislike and despise you more than you can imagine now. Your diaspora tries hard to boost this hatred. You know the truth is that nobody loves you but the Turks and it irritates Europe even more. So they will betray you at the first opportunity. Last night the Ukrainian FM was 4 times sent away to smoke while Russia and the US discussed the fate of his country. Albanians have lost their chance for knockout victory and you have to adjust yourselves to the 21 century’s realities. But you behave as if you still can put terms. Thus one day the Snake may be sent to smoke. So don’t be prisoners of your imagination.
(rote, 18 April 2014 12:02)

I'm sure that the Albanians really appreciate your concern for their well being. I'd recommend that you become an adviser to Kosovo's government so they can implement the policies that you described above and make Kosovo succeed in the 21st century.

icj1

pre 10 godina

I have repeated myself many time that both China and Russia are working together and when they were ready they would take on the Un ited States of Piss and Wind and they are ready.
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

But the Un ited States of Piss and Wind has already collapsed according to the CE of B92 forums sj... Why would China and Russia waste time with something not existent? As superpowers, China and Russia have more important things to do...
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What do you think the Russians are doing in Ukraine? Looking for a warm place to vacation? Read up on the importance of Crimea as I am tired of educating backward Albanians and I am tied of the Windbags threatening with more sanctions – what sanctions? Put up of f****** shut the hell up
(sj, 18 April 2014 13:58)

Of course everybody knows that Crimea is important. That's why Ukraine was the super-super power of the world until March 2014

P.S. CE = Chief Economist