Putin and Obama urge each other to "use their influence"

Having spent $5 billion to destabilise Ukraine by overthrowing a legally elected government and installing a pack of profiteering oligarchs led by an unelected banker, Barak Husein has the gall to tell Putin that Russia guarding it's own boarder is provacative and threatens to 'destabalize' Ukraine.Husein also fails to explain to Putin what John Brennan of the CIA and his group of agents were doing in Kiev at the weekend.My hunch is Brennan went to meet the US poster girl Yulia who promised to murder 8,000,000 Russians - the mice on which to set the tigers of the nazi Right Sector as a reward.
The axis of the US/EU/NATO is now beyond belief.The incredible evil they are unleashing in nation after nation is almost becoming unparallelled.

(Walter, 15 April 2014 15:52)

I wished you were right but I am afraid the crisis in Ukraine might develop into a civil war situation.After their defeats in Syria and Iran the right wing US neocon won't allow a peaceful resolution in Ukraine and therefore they will push for a full confrontation and the high level visits by the US vice president and the head of the CIA concur to that.Putin cannot possibly back down while the Russian population in Eastern Ukraine is suppressed.If he does back down not only Ukraine will go but also Putin and Russia.

Arn.Sweden.

“The Hungarians with its allies will sertainly seize the opportunity to protect its Hungarian fellows in Vojvodina as an excuse.”

I know it for sure that the Hungarians in western Ukraine live much worse than in Voivodina. Besides they are always terrified with the Nazi. So if I were you I would wish Russia good luck to withstand another joint front of the west. Yes it must be very uncomfortable when Hungarians live in several countries. Such are many of the divided nations like Serbs like the Chinese , the Mongolians , the Russians the Ossetians ect.

(just wondering, 16 April 2014 10:21)

Beause AE has never come up with any rational arguement but only this poor attemp at being witty. Leonidas has made some excellent points over the years and much to his credit he has the patience of a saint, but when you get hollowed down by a internet troll like ICJ with stupid comments then tell me how do you take him/her seriously?
As the recently retired head of the Bank of International Exchanges said when he went to New York late last year ’ the US has no economic plan that I can see. They are in debt to the tune of 18 trillion and no end in sight to more borrowings and their only strategy is printing money“. That is a road to disaster not salvation’.
Most would never have heard of this man unless you are ’in the business’, nor what he said, but there were over two dozen financial journalist, including Al Jazerra. and Al Jazerra was the only media that reported it, but it was never aired in the US, Australia UK or Canada.
So when I say the US is lost I say it from fact.

Obama: hey there Putin? How's life? How's your wife and family? Everything good? It's been long since we hung out man cuz of this stupid crisis in Ukraine you know.
Putin: just fly here man I'll make sure no one knows, we'll order McDonald's.
Obama: you know the paparazzi are following me everywhere man! Everything I do they see it! Anyway, about Ukraine, keep Crimea for yourself but please leave the rest of Ukraine alone.
Putin: you remove your puppet terrorist government in kiev first.
Obama: alright deal.
beep...

To (rote, 15 April 2014 15:06).

I know for sure that Russia will prevail.

Arn.

ICJ

Leave the politics bit to postsrs who have an opinion,you don't have one.Concentrate on things you do best-pizza deliveries.

Arn.


Вышла мадьярка на берег Дуная,
Бросила в воду цветок,
Утренней Венгрии дар принимая,
Дальше понесся поток.
Этот цветок увидали словаки
Со своего бережка.
Стали бросать они алые маки,
Их принимала река.

Дунай, Дунай,
А ну, узнай,
Где чей подарок!
К цветку цветок
Сплетай венок,
Пусть будет красив он и ярок.

Встретились в волнах болгарская роза
И югославский жасмин.
С левого берега лилию в росах
Бросил во след им румын.
От Украины, Молдовы, России,
Дети советской страны
Бросили тоже цветы полевые
В гребень дунайской волны.

http://www.piter.fm/artist/%FD%E4%E8%F2%E0_%EF%FC%E5%F5%E0/song_1328878

The total Hypcrisy of the West !

Compere - Yugoslavia/Egypt/Libya and now Ukraine.

As the signature Leonidas pinted out,
the Chief ohief CIA is in Ukraine which shows they are behind the owerthrow of the Demokratic government of Ukraine and,
now is the US Vice Precident Biden also going to Ukraine to speak with Ukrains New President.
Surely Mr Biden has Secrets from Obama with Him to pass to the news Ukrainian leader.


Those intrigues will spark a Violent Russian response for to protect the Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

The Hungarians with its allies will sertainly seize the opportunity to protect its Hungarian fellows in Vojvodina as an excuse.

Spremte se Spremte !.

Arn.Sweden.

"The Hungarians with its allies will sertainly seize the opportunity to protect its Hungarian fellows in Vojvodina as an excuse."

Where the hell do you live. I bet it's not even Sweden but somewhere near the Comoros islands in Africa? Vojvodina is stable, Hungarians have all the minority rights you can imagine, they also have dual citizenships, they are participating in the next government coalition with SNS, and they only form 15% of Vojvodina's population.
Stop mixing things up. It'll never happen. Hungarian nationalists in Romania (Transylvania), Slovakia, Serbia, Croatia (Slavonia), Ukraine (Transcarpathia) might call for a "greater Hungary" but ordinary Hungarians in those countries don't even care. They just want to live their lives and are happy with the rights they already enjoy. Stop your propaganda please!

To the Flying Dutschman(Dutch, 15 April 2014 11:32)

Ceep the focus of whom I pointed out,
even Humgary.

You are refering to Hungarys souroundings not to Hungary.

You are flying in your lofty imaginations,
and you will only find a landingplace where I pointed out.

Arn.Sweden.

(icj1, 15 April 2014 21:11)

The AE never fails to come up with 2=2+10 and as you said last time you always agree with me so I am please to see that you agree with me when I say you’re an idiot.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein

Having spent $5 billion to destabilise Ukraine by overthrowing a legally elected government and installing a pack of profiteering oligarchs led by an unelected banker, Barak Husein has the gall to tell Putin that Russia guarding it's own boarder is provacative and threatens to 'destabalize' Ukraine.
(Leonidas, 15 April 2014 10:15)

Obviously you don't have any idea what's happening. The CE of B92 forums sj has already rejected what you say above because he/she has already ruled that based on his/her brilliant analysis the country that Barak Husein leads has already collapsed and run out of cash so obviously it does not have $5 billion. But, according always to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, Russia does have all the cash it needs so the correct statement according to the CE of B92 forums sj is:

"Having spent $5 billion to destabilise Ukraine Vladimir has the gall to tell the world that reports about Russia interfering in Ukraine were "based on questionable information".

My advice to you dear Leonidas: pay more attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj and you must never, ever say even think something than goes against what the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled about, let alone write those heretic thoughts in these forums.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

(icj1

On the contrary I agree with everything SJ is posting and unlike the nonsense you parade on this site he knows what he's talking about.There are a number of links on the net confirming that Victoria Nuland told the National Press Club in Washington on December 13, 2013, that the US has “invested” $5 billion in agitation in Ukraine.Remember the printing presses.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm

As to US being bankrupt that's not a secret,for every dollar they spend they collect 58 cents through taxes and 42 cents through borrowing and printing.Stock markets are rigged and prices are not based on macro economic fundamentals, PE ratios, sector health or lack thereof.Instead the most important factor that is talked about is the Fed, how much is Bernanke going to continue to QE, which is just printing money, or speculation of tapering, this alone moving the markets up or down, and this regardless real unemployment, real inflation, real risks of such as banks that are still houses of cards and can’t even afford interest rates to rise, as neither can the government.
Since you laugh at my and sjs suggestions the US is actually bankrupt I would ask you to look at what Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff of Boston University says about the US.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2013/10/07/oh-and-by-the-way-our-government-is-totally-broke/

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 16 April 2014 20:23)

AE make sure the peperoni is delivered on time otherwise its free.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein.

The AE never fails to come up with 2=2+10 and as you said last time you always agree with me so I am please to see that you agree with me when I say you’re an idiot.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein
(sj, 16 April 2014 03:35)
I can understand why icj1 calls you "CE" as you have spent years on here trying to convince everyone that you are an authority on financial matters and know things no one else does, but I fail to see the "AE" designation you give him/her with your 2+2=10, rationale and definitely not the above 2=2+10m is there something I am missing?

Leave the politics bit to postsrs who have an opinion,you don't have one.Concentrate on things you do best-pizza deliveries.
(Gotsefromohrid, 15 April 2014 23:54)

That's correct, dear.... Unfortunately, even though I don't have opinions of my own because I only follow the opinions of the CE of B92 forums sj, I cannot stand aside when I see somebody like our dear friend Leonidas who writes things that go against the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj. I also advice you to pay much more attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj who is spending all his/her energies to educate the posters in these forums.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

(icj1, 15 April 2014 21:11)

The AE never fails to come up with 2=2+10 and as you said last time you always agree with me so I am please to see that you agree with me when I say you’re an idiot.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein
(sj, 16 April 2014 03:35)

I said I always agree with the CE of B92 forums sj (I have actually outsourced my thinking to him/her). Since I was just quoting the CE of B92 forums sj, I can't agree that the CE of B92 forums sj is an idiot. How can you say such an heresy for somebody like the CE of B92 forums sj who is spending all his/her energies to illuminate these forums?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Beause AE has never come up with any rational arguement but only this poor attemp at being witty. Leonidas has made some excellent points over the years and much to his credit he has the patience of a saint
(sj, 16 April 2014 12:40)

Sorry dear, but why do I need to come up with arguments when I can just use the arguments that the CE of B92 forums sj has made after so much thoughtful economic and financials analysis that nobody else is able to make?!

So, the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled long ago that the evil US has collapsed and run out of cash.

Now, a certain Leonidas disagrees with the CE of B92 forums sj and says that the US has, at least, $ 5 billion.

You are not seriously asking me to come up with rational arguments to support Leonidas when the CE of B92 forums sj has already rejected what Leonidas says.

As you can see there is no opinion of mine above. It's just a conflict of opinions between the CE of B92 forums sj and our dear friend Leonidas. I, for myself, always take the side of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

(icj1
On the contrary I agree with everything SJ is posting and unlike the nonsense you parade on this site he knows what he's talking about.
(Leonidas, 17 April 2014 00:04)

Of course, I already said that in my post that the analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct.
----------

There are a number of links on the net confirming that Victoria Nuland told the National Press Club in Washington on December 13, 2013, that the US has “invested” $5 billion in agitation in Ukraine.Remember the printing presses.
(Leonidas, 17 April 2014 00:04)

So, you are asking me to believe an evil American like Victoria Nuland over the analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has determined already that the US has collapsed and run out of cash therefore does not have $5 billion. What are you smoking, dear? We just agreed that the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct and he/she knows what he's talking about, not Victoria Nuland.
----------

Since you laugh at my and sjs suggestions the US is actually bankrupt
(Leonidas, 17 April 2014 00:04)

Correction! I did laugh at YOUR suggestion that US has $5 billion. I did not laugh at the CE of B92 forums sj suggestion that the US has collapsed and run out cash and therefore does not have $5 billion. I actually used it to show that your laughable argument that the US has cash has already been rejected by the CE of B92 forums sj. I assume you understand what "collapse" and "run out of cash" mean...

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Having spent $5 billion to destabilise Ukraine by overthrowing a legally elected government and installing a pack of profiteering oligarchs led by an unelected banker, Barak Husein has the gall to tell Putin that Russia guarding it's own boarder is provacative and threatens to 'destabalize' Ukraine.
(Leonidas, 15 April 2014 10:15)

Obviously you don't have any idea what's happening. The CE of B92 forums sj has already rejected what you say above because he/she has already ruled that based on his/her brilliant analysis the country that Barak Husein leads has already collapsed and run out of cash so obviously it does not have $5 billion. But, according always to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, Russia does have all the cash it needs so the correct statement according to the CE of B92 forums sj is:

"Having spent $5 billion to destabilise Ukraine Vladimir has the gall to tell the world that reports about Russia interfering in Ukraine were "based on questionable information".

My advice to you dear Leonidas: pay more attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj and you must never, ever say even think something than goes against what the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled about, let alone write those heretic thoughts in these forums.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

The total Hypcrisy of the West !

Compere - Yugoslavia/Egypt/Libya and now Ukraine.

As the signature Leonidas pinted out,
the Chief ohief CIA is in Ukraine which shows they are behind the owerthrow of the Demokratic government of Ukraine and,
now is the US Vice Precident Biden also going to Ukraine to speak with Ukrains New President.
Surely Mr Biden has Secrets from Obama with Him to pass to the news Ukrainian leader.


Those intrigues will spark a Violent Russian response for to protect the Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

The Hungarians with its allies will sertainly seize the opportunity to protect its Hungarian fellows in Vojvodina as an excuse.

Spremte se Spremte !.

Arn.Sweden.

Having spent $5 billion to destabilise Ukraine by overthrowing a legally elected government and installing a pack of profiteering oligarchs led by an unelected banker, Barak Husein has the gall to tell Putin that Russia guarding it's own boarder is provacative and threatens to 'destabalize' Ukraine.Husein also fails to explain to Putin what John Brennan of the CIA and his group of agents were doing in Kiev at the weekend.My hunch is Brennan went to meet the US poster girl Yulia who promised to murder 8,000,000 Russians - the mice on which to set the tigers of the nazi Right Sector as a reward.
The axis of the US/EU/NATO is now beyond belief.The incredible evil they are unleashing in nation after nation is almost becoming unparallelled.

The AE never fails to come up with 2=2+10 and as you said last time you always agree with me so I am please to see that you agree with me when I say you’re an idiot.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein
(sj, 16 April 2014 03:35)
I can understand why icj1 calls you "CE" as you have spent years on here trying to convince everyone that you are an authority on financial matters and know things no one else does, but I fail to see the "AE" designation you give him/her with your 2+2=10, rationale and definitely not the above 2=2+10m is there something I am missing?

"The Hungarians with its allies will sertainly seize the opportunity to protect its Hungarian fellows in Vojvodina as an excuse."

Where the hell do you live. I bet it's not even Sweden but somewhere near the Comoros islands in Africa? Vojvodina is stable, Hungarians have all the minority rights you can imagine, they also have dual citizenships, they are participating in the next government coalition with SNS, and they only form 15% of Vojvodina's population.
Stop mixing things up. It'll never happen. Hungarian nationalists in Romania (Transylvania), Slovakia, Serbia, Croatia (Slavonia), Ukraine (Transcarpathia) might call for a "greater Hungary" but ordinary Hungarians in those countries don't even care. They just want to live their lives and are happy with the rights they already enjoy. Stop your propaganda please!

Arn.Sweden.

“The Hungarians with its allies will sertainly seize the opportunity to protect its Hungarian fellows in Vojvodina as an excuse.”

I know it for sure that the Hungarians in western Ukraine live much worse than in Voivodina. Besides they are always terrified with the Nazi. So if I were you I would wish Russia good luck to withstand another joint front of the west. Yes it must be very uncomfortable when Hungarians live in several countries. Such are many of the divided nations like Serbs like the Chinese , the Mongolians , the Russians the Ossetians ect.

Leave the politics bit to postsrs who have an opinion,you don't have one.Concentrate on things you do best-pizza deliveries.
(Gotsefromohrid, 15 April 2014 23:54)

That's correct, dear.... Unfortunately, even though I don't have opinions of my own because I only follow the opinions of the CE of B92 forums sj, I cannot stand aside when I see somebody like our dear friend Leonidas who writes things that go against the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj. I also advice you to pay much more attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj who is spending all his/her energies to educate the posters in these forums.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Beause AE has never come up with any rational arguement but only this poor attemp at being witty. Leonidas has made some excellent points over the years and much to his credit he has the patience of a saint
(sj, 16 April 2014 12:40)

Sorry dear, but why do I need to come up with arguments when I can just use the arguments that the CE of B92 forums sj has made after so much thoughtful economic and financials analysis that nobody else is able to make?!

So, the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled long ago that the evil US has collapsed and run out of cash.

Now, a certain Leonidas disagrees with the CE of B92 forums sj and says that the US has, at least, $ 5 billion.

You are not seriously asking me to come up with rational arguments to support Leonidas when the CE of B92 forums sj has already rejected what Leonidas says.

As you can see there is no opinion of mine above. It's just a conflict of opinions between the CE of B92 forums sj and our dear friend Leonidas. I, for myself, always take the side of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

(icj1, 15 April 2014 21:11)

The AE never fails to come up with 2=2+10 and as you said last time you always agree with me so I am please to see that you agree with me when I say you’re an idiot.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein
(sj, 16 April 2014 03:35)

I said I always agree with the CE of B92 forums sj (I have actually outsourced my thinking to him/her). Since I was just quoting the CE of B92 forums sj, I can't agree that the CE of B92 forums sj is an idiot. How can you say such an heresy for somebody like the CE of B92 forums sj who is spending all his/her energies to illuminate these forums?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

To (rote, 15 April 2014 15:06).

I know for sure that Russia will prevail.

Arn.

(Walter, 15 April 2014 15:52)

I wished you were right but I am afraid the crisis in Ukraine might develop into a civil war situation.After their defeats in Syria and Iran the right wing US neocon won't allow a peaceful resolution in Ukraine and therefore they will push for a full confrontation and the high level visits by the US vice president and the head of the CIA concur to that.Putin cannot possibly back down while the Russian population in Eastern Ukraine is suppressed.If he does back down not only Ukraine will go but also Putin and Russia.

Obama: hey there Putin? How's life? How's your wife and family? Everything good? It's been long since we hung out man cuz of this stupid crisis in Ukraine you know.
Putin: just fly here man I'll make sure no one knows, we'll order McDonald's.
Obama: you know the paparazzi are following me everywhere man! Everything I do they see it! Anyway, about Ukraine, keep Crimea for yourself but please leave the rest of Ukraine alone.
Putin: you remove your puppet terrorist government in kiev first.
Obama: alright deal.
beep...

ICJ

Leave the politics bit to postsrs who have an opinion,you don't have one.Concentrate on things you do best-pizza deliveries.

To the Flying Dutschman(Dutch, 15 April 2014 11:32)

Ceep the focus of whom I pointed out,
even Humgary.

You are refering to Hungarys souroundings not to Hungary.

You are flying in your lofty imaginations,
and you will only find a landingplace where I pointed out.

Arn.Sweden.

(icj1, 15 April 2014 21:11)

The AE never fails to come up with 2=2+10 and as you said last time you always agree with me so I am please to see that you agree with me when I say you’re an idiot.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein

Arn.


Вышла мадьярка на берег Дуная,
Бросила в воду цветок,
Утренней Венгрии дар принимая,
Дальше понесся поток.
Этот цветок увидали словаки
Со своего бережка.
Стали бросать они алые маки,
Их принимала река.

Дунай, Дунай,
А ну, узнай,
Где чей подарок!
К цветку цветок
Сплетай венок,
Пусть будет красив он и ярок.

Встретились в волнах болгарская роза
И югославский жасмин.
С левого берега лилию в росах
Бросил во след им румын.
От Украины, Молдовы, России,
Дети советской страны
Бросили тоже цветы полевые
В гребень дунайской волны.

http://www.piter.fm/artist/%FD%E4%E8%F2%E0_%EF%FC%E5%F5%E0/song_1328878

(just wondering, 16 April 2014 10:21)

Beause AE has never come up with any rational arguement but only this poor attemp at being witty. Leonidas has made some excellent points over the years and much to his credit he has the patience of a saint, but when you get hollowed down by a internet troll like ICJ with stupid comments then tell me how do you take him/her seriously?
As the recently retired head of the Bank of International Exchanges said when he went to New York late last year ’ the US has no economic plan that I can see. They are in debt to the tune of 18 trillion and no end in sight to more borrowings and their only strategy is printing money“. That is a road to disaster not salvation’.
Most would never have heard of this man unless you are ’in the business’, nor what he said, but there were over two dozen financial journalist, including Al Jazerra. and Al Jazerra was the only media that reported it, but it was never aired in the US, Australia UK or Canada.
So when I say the US is lost I say it from fact.

(icj1

On the contrary I agree with everything SJ is posting and unlike the nonsense you parade on this site he knows what he's talking about.There are a number of links on the net confirming that Victoria Nuland told the National Press Club in Washington on December 13, 2013, that the US has “invested” $5 billion in agitation in Ukraine.Remember the printing presses.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm

As to US being bankrupt that's not a secret,for every dollar they spend they collect 58 cents through taxes and 42 cents through borrowing and printing.Stock markets are rigged and prices are not based on macro economic fundamentals, PE ratios, sector health or lack thereof.Instead the most important factor that is talked about is the Fed, how much is Bernanke going to continue to QE, which is just printing money, or speculation of tapering, this alone moving the markets up or down, and this regardless real unemployment, real inflation, real risks of such as banks that are still houses of cards and can’t even afford interest rates to rise, as neither can the government.
Since you laugh at my and sjs suggestions the US is actually bankrupt I would ask you to look at what Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff of Boston University says about the US.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2013/10/07/oh-and-by-the-way-our-government-is-totally-broke/

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 16 April 2014 20:23)

AE make sure the peperoni is delivered on time otherwise its free.

P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein.

(icj1
On the contrary I agree with everything SJ is posting and unlike the nonsense you parade on this site he knows what he's talking about.
(Leonidas, 17 April 2014 00:04)

Of course, I already said that in my post that the analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct.
----------

There are a number of links on the net confirming that Victoria Nuland told the National Press Club in Washington on December 13, 2013, that the US has “invested” $5 billion in agitation in Ukraine.Remember the printing presses.
(Leonidas, 17 April 2014 00:04)

So, you are asking me to believe an evil American like Victoria Nuland over the analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has determined already that the US has collapsed and run out of cash therefore does not have $5 billion. What are you smoking, dear? We just agreed that the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct and he/she knows what he's talking about, not Victoria Nuland.
----------

Since you laugh at my and sjs suggestions the US is actually bankrupt
(Leonidas, 17 April 2014 00:04)

Correction! I did laugh at YOUR suggestion that US has $5 billion. I did not laugh at the CE of B92 forums sj suggestion that the US has collapsed and run out cash and therefore does not have $5 billion. I actually used it to show that your laughable argument that the US has cash has already been rejected by the CE of B92 forums sj. I assume you understand what "collapse" and "run out of cash" mean...

P.S. CE = Chief Economist