Russia satisfied with Serbian position - ambassador

Political analyst Dragoljub Anđelković said that differences between Crimea and Kosovo were obvious, since in the case of Crimea there was no violence, while Kosovo was "separated through aggression and occupation."

True, Crimea was separated though there was never any person of the ethnic minority(Russians) threated, intimidated, raped or even killed by Ukrianian soldiers or paramilitaries, while Kosovo separated after killing, discriminating, expelling of the ethnic minority(Albanians) by Serbian soldiers and paramilitaries.

"He pointed out that when Crimea declared independence from Ukraine and later jointed Russia, procedures were fully complied with, and the process was conducted in accordance with international law and the UN Charter, while this principle was not respected in the case of Kosovo."

the UNGA and the ICJ disagree with the above, so whatever Aleksandr is saying does not matter much. If he is trying to convince himself, I'm sure he will succeed with that ;)

Crimea vs Kosovo is really a weird situation for Serbia. No matter what the focus is, i.e. similarities or differences...all arguments lead to the same intended outcome. That is, Crimea joining Russia is the right thing to do and the same holds for Kosovo...independence seems to be legally and practically the only solution. The Russian ambassador says there can't be double standards when it comes to Crimea vs. Kosovo. O.K. mr. Ambassador...we all agree with you. Yes, that's right. No double standards. Crimea is part of Russia and Kosovo is what it is...an independent country. It's simpler than it looks. Honestly, I cannot understand why Albanians are against Crimea joining Russia and why Serbs are not against Crimea joining Russia or have no position at all for that matter. It's all Balkan politics in action...always needing a political sponsor from outside...as has been the case in the last 200 years.

the UNGA and the ICJ disagree with the above, so

Of course they dont, USA sponsored organs hardly would. The only thing that matters is that NATO attacked a sovereign country without a UN resolution period. As for your opinion, I wipe my ass with it.

@Eugene
Extremely true.
1-Serbia should be against Crimean annexation because it's against Kosovo's succession.
2-Kosovo should be for Crimean annexation.
Yet Kosovo cannot have a position different to their creators and "salvation-ers" the Americans, while Serbia also cannot make Russia angry...
Poor countries.. look at the Swiss, they do whatever they fu. want! and they are rich as HELL! They don't need anyone to dictate them what to do. Not the EU, not the US, not any force in the universe!

look at the Swiss, they do whatever they fu. want! and they are rich as HELL! They don't need anyone to dictate them what to do. Not the EU, not the US, not any force in the universe!
(Mark, 4 April 2014 00:36)


Utter nonsense.

Swiss is in the EU in all but name.

Haven't you noticed Germany and the US squeezing Switzerland these last years for tax evaders from their countries.

Just try to open a bank account in Switzerland if you're a US citizen or legal resident. You think that's because "no one tells Switzerland what to do?"

Its a right position Serbia took on Ukraine's crisis.World events are rapidly changing. Most of the World trade is done through Western financial institutions which love the economic sanctions on any political disagreement which they do not favor.In the interest of peace financial transaction for trade of goods and services World-wide for non Western countries should be establish as soon as possible.Its not right or fair that 10% of the World population controls other 90%.Enough is enough with hypocrisy and double standards

"He pointed out that when Crimea declared independence from Ukraine and later jointed Russia, procedures were fully complied with, and the process was conducted in accordance with international law and the UN Charter, while this principle was not respected in the case of Kosovo."

the UNGA and the ICJ disagree with the above, so whatever Aleksandr is saying does not matter much. If he is trying to convince himself, I'm sure he will succeed with that ;)
(icj1, 3 April 2014 20:57)

Of course they dont, USA sponsored organs hardly would. The only thing that matters is that NATO attacked a sovereign country without a UN resolution period. As for your opinion, I wipe my ass with it.
(Daniel, 3 April 2014 23:33)

Well, dear, I did not express any opinion, so I'm so sorry that you'll remain unwiped :)

I just quoted the opinions of those which Serbia trusts so much; i.e. UNGA and ICJ - so don't get irritated and don't loose your lucidity over the fact that they disagree with Aleksandr. It not your fault that they think Aleksandr is wrong. As for NATO, it did the same thing that Russia did, but without annexing.

"He pointed out that when Crimea declared independence from Ukraine and later jointed Russia, procedures were fully complied with, and the process was conducted in accordance with international law and the UN Charter, while this principle was not respected in the case of Kosovo."

The 'procedures' in Ukraine were a referendum organized within two weeks, with dubious possibilities to answer, with tranparent ballot boxes and polling stations decorated in the colors of Russia, while Russian soldiers with insignia removed from their uniforms patrolling in the streets. The Ukraine constitution doesn't provide a possibility for a referendum in just one province. Furthermore, Russia violated the bilateral treaty with Ukraine guaranteeing territorial integrity. Russian soldiers were boarding Ukrainian warships in pirate manner.

So it's nonsense to say that international laws were not violated in case of Crimea. Of course, states that recognized the independent state of Kosovo violated international law, too. And yes, the UDI was legal, because it doesn't mean anything, especially not statehood. So Kosovo Albanians didn't violate the law with their glorious UDI, the states that recognized this breakaway state did.

And yes, the UDI was legal, because it doesn't mean anything, especially not statehood. So Kosovo Albanians didn't violate the law with their glorious UDI, the states that recognized this breakaway state did.
(Comm. Parrisson, 4 April 2014 10:10)

Sorry, but the statement above lacks logic. What you are saying is that it is illegal for somebody to recognize something that is legal :)

I cannot understand why Albanians are against Crimea joining Russia and why Serbs are not against Crimea joining Russia or have no position at all for that matter. It's all Balkan politics in action...always needing a political sponsor from outside...as has been the case in the last 200 years.
(Eugene, 3 April 2014 18:48)
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Let me give you some clarity. Crimea was Russian land which ended up being Ukranian in error and Kosovo is Serbian land which was forcefully taken away.

So Crimea belongs to Russia and should go back. Kosovo belongs to Serbia and should go back. Stealing part of a territory from anyone is wrong. It doesn't matter how many Albanians have come to live in Kosovo just like it doesn't matter how many Pakistanis have come to live in the UK, it's still land that belongs to original inhabitants.
Of course when it comes to Anglos any land belongs to them if they want it or if it's in their interest to give it to someonese else.

Political analyst Dragoljub Anđelković said that differences between Crimea and Kosovo were obvious, since in the case of Crimea there was no violence, while Kosovo was "separated through aggression and occupation."

True, Crimea was separated though there was never any person of the ethnic minority(Russians) threated, intimidated, raped or even killed by Ukrianian soldiers or paramilitaries, while Kosovo separated after killing, discriminating, expelling of the ethnic minority(Albanians) by Serbian soldiers and paramilitaries.

"He pointed out that when Crimea declared independence from Ukraine and later jointed Russia, procedures were fully complied with, and the process was conducted in accordance with international law and the UN Charter, while this principle was not respected in the case of Kosovo."

the UNGA and the ICJ disagree with the above, so whatever Aleksandr is saying does not matter much. If he is trying to convince himself, I'm sure he will succeed with that ;)

Crimea vs Kosovo is really a weird situation for Serbia. No matter what the focus is, i.e. similarities or differences...all arguments lead to the same intended outcome. That is, Crimea joining Russia is the right thing to do and the same holds for Kosovo...independence seems to be legally and practically the only solution. The Russian ambassador says there can't be double standards when it comes to Crimea vs. Kosovo. O.K. mr. Ambassador...we all agree with you. Yes, that's right. No double standards. Crimea is part of Russia and Kosovo is what it is...an independent country. It's simpler than it looks. Honestly, I cannot understand why Albanians are against Crimea joining Russia and why Serbs are not against Crimea joining Russia or have no position at all for that matter. It's all Balkan politics in action...always needing a political sponsor from outside...as has been the case in the last 200 years.

the UNGA and the ICJ disagree with the above, so

Of course they dont, USA sponsored organs hardly would. The only thing that matters is that NATO attacked a sovereign country without a UN resolution period. As for your opinion, I wipe my ass with it.

@Eugene
Extremely true.
1-Serbia should be against Crimean annexation because it's against Kosovo's succession.
2-Kosovo should be for Crimean annexation.
Yet Kosovo cannot have a position different to their creators and "salvation-ers" the Americans, while Serbia also cannot make Russia angry...
Poor countries.. look at the Swiss, they do whatever they fu. want! and they are rich as HELL! They don't need anyone to dictate them what to do. Not the EU, not the US, not any force in the universe!

Its a right position Serbia took on Ukraine's crisis.World events are rapidly changing. Most of the World trade is done through Western financial institutions which love the economic sanctions on any political disagreement which they do not favor.In the interest of peace financial transaction for trade of goods and services World-wide for non Western countries should be establish as soon as possible.Its not right or fair that 10% of the World population controls other 90%.Enough is enough with hypocrisy and double standards

"He pointed out that when Crimea declared independence from Ukraine and later jointed Russia, procedures were fully complied with, and the process was conducted in accordance with international law and the UN Charter, while this principle was not respected in the case of Kosovo."

The 'procedures' in Ukraine were a referendum organized within two weeks, with dubious possibilities to answer, with tranparent ballot boxes and polling stations decorated in the colors of Russia, while Russian soldiers with insignia removed from their uniforms patrolling in the streets. The Ukraine constitution doesn't provide a possibility for a referendum in just one province. Furthermore, Russia violated the bilateral treaty with Ukraine guaranteeing territorial integrity. Russian soldiers were boarding Ukrainian warships in pirate manner.

So it's nonsense to say that international laws were not violated in case of Crimea. Of course, states that recognized the independent state of Kosovo violated international law, too. And yes, the UDI was legal, because it doesn't mean anything, especially not statehood. So Kosovo Albanians didn't violate the law with their glorious UDI, the states that recognized this breakaway state did.

And yes, the UDI was legal, because it doesn't mean anything, especially not statehood. So Kosovo Albanians didn't violate the law with their glorious UDI, the states that recognized this breakaway state did.
(Comm. Parrisson, 4 April 2014 10:10)

Sorry, but the statement above lacks logic. What you are saying is that it is illegal for somebody to recognize something that is legal :)

"He pointed out that when Crimea declared independence from Ukraine and later jointed Russia, procedures were fully complied with, and the process was conducted in accordance with international law and the UN Charter, while this principle was not respected in the case of Kosovo."

the UNGA and the ICJ disagree with the above, so whatever Aleksandr is saying does not matter much. If he is trying to convince himself, I'm sure he will succeed with that ;)
(icj1, 3 April 2014 20:57)

Of course they dont, USA sponsored organs hardly would. The only thing that matters is that NATO attacked a sovereign country without a UN resolution period. As for your opinion, I wipe my ass with it.
(Daniel, 3 April 2014 23:33)

Well, dear, I did not express any opinion, so I'm so sorry that you'll remain unwiped :)

I just quoted the opinions of those which Serbia trusts so much; i.e. UNGA and ICJ - so don't get irritated and don't loose your lucidity over the fact that they disagree with Aleksandr. It not your fault that they think Aleksandr is wrong. As for NATO, it did the same thing that Russia did, but without annexing.

I cannot understand why Albanians are against Crimea joining Russia and why Serbs are not against Crimea joining Russia or have no position at all for that matter. It's all Balkan politics in action...always needing a political sponsor from outside...as has been the case in the last 200 years.
(Eugene, 3 April 2014 18:48)
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Let me give you some clarity. Crimea was Russian land which ended up being Ukranian in error and Kosovo is Serbian land which was forcefully taken away.

So Crimea belongs to Russia and should go back. Kosovo belongs to Serbia and should go back. Stealing part of a territory from anyone is wrong. It doesn't matter how many Albanians have come to live in Kosovo just like it doesn't matter how many Pakistanis have come to live in the UK, it's still land that belongs to original inhabitants.
Of course when it comes to Anglos any land belongs to them if they want it or if it's in their interest to give it to someonese else.

look at the Swiss, they do whatever they fu. want! and they are rich as HELL! They don't need anyone to dictate them what to do. Not the EU, not the US, not any force in the universe!
(Mark, 4 April 2014 00:36)


Utter nonsense.

Swiss is in the EU in all but name.

Haven't you noticed Germany and the US squeezing Switzerland these last years for tax evaders from their countries.

Just try to open a bank account in Switzerland if you're a US citizen or legal resident. You think that's because "no one tells Switzerland what to do?"