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Monday, 24.03.2014.

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President: We have not heard sincere apology

Tomislav Nikolić spoke in Varvarin on Monday to say that "no sincere apology has been heard so far" for NATO's attacks on a bridge there that killed ten people.

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Aleks

pre 10 godina

But I thought Kosovo was an economic hell hole? But now you're telling me that Western Politicians have invested there to make money?

Your arguments are contradictory and don't make sense, but then again, you are brainwashed and deluded.
(Ian, UK, 28 March 2014 10:07)

Are you this stupid? Or do you try extra hard? :) Let's see now...Iraq is an economic hell hole, as well as Afghanistan. Kosovo is too. I am not saying that to put Kosovo down, it is a reality that it is an economic hell hole. You know who is not in an economic hell hole? The foreign businesses who went there to invest and TAKE all the money with them. They have made billions in Iraq and Afghanistan yet those countries are poor. If you don't believe this is happening and going on, then you need to stop wasting your time posting here because you are way out of touch with the real world.

There are tons of US businesses that are investing in all types of countries all over the world in Asia, yet those countries are horrendously poor economically. That's because the money and profits don't belong or stay there. From your posts, I gather that you are fairly in tune with all of this. You are fairly sharp on how this all works. What you try to do is use stupidity in an attempt to divert attention from facts you cannot refute.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

He is only playing the same game you play. It's a shame that my response to you is not being posted today...I imagine it got lost in electron land somewhere. Anyway, read up on the NY Times about my 'conspiracy theories' about Clark, Albright, and the US diplomats/businesses tripping over themselves in Kosovo over who was going to 'invest' (get) in what.
(Aleks, 27 March 2014 22:01)

But I thought Kosovo was an economic hell hole? But now you're telling me that Western Politicians have invested there to make money?

Your arguments are contradictory and don't make sense, but then again, you are brainwashed and deluded.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

And fyi the MONTENEGRIN Darko Saric moves cocaine and not heroin.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 23:25)

I thought Montenegrins are Serbs? Or are they only Serbs when it is convenient?
(Ian, UK, 27 March 2014 12:24)

He is only playing the same game you play. It's a shame that my response to you is not being posted today...I imagine it got lost in electron land somewhere. Anyway, read up on the NY Times about my 'conspiracy theories' about Clark, Albright, and the US diplomats/businesses tripping over themselves in Kosovo over who was going to 'invest' (get) in what.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

And fyi the MONTENEGRIN Darko Saric moves cocaine and not heroin.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 23:25)

I thought Montenegrins are Serbs? Or are they only Serbs when it is convenient?

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Daniel, you lost me here man. Serb guy, biggest drug trafficker in the Balkans gets caught, just 2 days ago and you still have no problem pulling crap from your behind. This guy was buddies with some of your high ranking politicians too.


Since when is Darko Saric a serb? If anyone is lost on a serb site its you and your fellow albos.

J

pre 10 godina

Fact is that albanians supply 90%of the heroin through europe, fact is that albanians organize 100% of the trafficking.

-- Daniel, you lost me here man. Serb guy, biggest drug trafficker in the Balkans gets caught, just 2 days ago and you still have no problem pulling crap from your behind. This guy was buddies with some of your high ranking politicians too.

The NSA is scouring the internet. Careful with your ethnic threats of annihilation. You don't want your IP address on any databases do you? It is not hard to determine who you are these days. Curb your emotions and enthusiasm a little bit. For your own good.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Yeah, ask your Greek orthodox brothers about Vladimir's generosity :)
(icj1, 26 March 2014 04:16)

Of course the russians are not stupid enough to borrow to a country that is a part of the 4th Reich.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Oh my god! Just a few days ago a drug kingping ( serb ) was arrested. Pink panther ( serbs ) etc. " organ trafficking " you have no evidence. Instead of those money that belgrad paid Dick marty, they could've send

Since when is Darko Saric a serb? He is montenegrin just like 90%of the pink Panthers.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Hope Russia and China bombs the hell out of England so you would know how that feels.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 12:34)

I hope they bomb Old Trafford first ;)

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

LOL....a hahahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! WOW! Yup, NATO's first choice was not aggresion. Nor did they have any plans to build a huge base in Kosovo, for Madeline Albright's corporation (Albright Capital Management) to invest in Kosovo, or Wesley Clark's Envidity (he's the chairman) to look into investing in Trepca. That was certainly not their first choice! LOL. Follow the money buddy, and the logic is there. Who bought the bombed out cigarette factory in Serbia? Not Phillip Morris! Gasp!
(Aleks, 26 March 2014 00:57)

So you've been playing with yourself to Boris Malagurski's so-called "documentaries"? Please spare me the conspiracy theories, next you'll be telling me how the earth is hollow and full of Aliens/ Lizard people who use mind control on the Western Elite and have formed some sort of New World Order or that Jews did 9/11 LOL.

NATO's first choice wasn't aggression, that's why on three occasions the US, UK and France used the UN Security Council to order FR Yugoslavia to stop the hostilities on Kosovar civilians and to find a peaceful solution at the negotiating table; FR Yugoslavia ignored. Milosevic ignored soft power three times, he found it a little harder to ignore hard power and now he is burning in Hell with Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, Thatcher and Gaddafi.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Hollywood and make a movie. You serb killed a Swedish minister in 2003, you serbs robbed the G4 bank in stockholm few years ago. You want more facts? i got FACTS! you got propaganda!
(Bridge, 25 March 2014 02:15)

As a matter of fact I live in Sweden and know very well that no serbs were involved in the g4 robbery, 4 swedish guys were convicted. You got nothing but LIES. Fact is that albanians supply 90%of the heroin through europe, fact is that albanians organize 100% of the trafficking. Fact is that albanians are the worst criminals wherever they live, fact is that albanians should be oppressed and tortured because it would make the world a better place, fact is that albanians are lowlife neanderthals that live in clans. Fact is that albanians in the 21st century fight bloodfeuds. Those are facts unlike your lies and propaganda. Now get the hell out of our sites.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. '


Of course it was the preferred choice. The rambouillet was offered because they knew that Serbia would never agree, what country would agree to be completely occupied by NATO soldiers. Serbia does not call it a NATO aggression, it was de facto an aggression since there was no UN resolution and that automatically makes it an aggression. NATO bombing a sovereign contry for more than 3 months isnt an aggression and Russia peacefully taking over a part of Ukraine that wants to be russian somehow is aggression right? Hypocrite. Hope Russia and China bombs the hell out of England so you would know how that feels.

icj1

pre 10 godina

People in Germany will NEVER buy stuff manufactured in Serbia.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Why not?
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They need to manufacture and sell to BRIC countries, and any others that they can maintain favourable trade ties with.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Why only BRIC countries?! If Serbia's goods are good enough, everybody will buy them.
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Borrow from Russia- Vladimir is generous to his friends.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Yeah, ask your Greek orthodox brothers about Vladimir's generosity :)

Aleks

pre 10 godina

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. NATO gave peaceful diplomatic efforts more than enough time to succeed. Milosevic is to blame for the Kosovo War, his ultra-nationalism caused the conflict in the first place & NATO's intervention could have been avoided if FRY military & paramilitary forces had ceased hostilities towards the civilian population of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that there were civilian casualties in NATO's intervention; with hindsight, better precision could have ensured that NATO only hit military & political targets. However there would have been no bombings at all had Milosevic listened to the UNSC.
(Ian, UK, 25 March 2014 10:58)

LOL....a hahahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! WOW! Yup, NATO's first choice was not aggresion. Nor did they have any plans to build a huge base in Kosovo, for Madeline Albright's corporation (Albright Capital Management) to invest in Kosovo, or Wesley Clark's Envidity (he's the chairman) to look into investing in Trepca. That was certainly not their first choice! LOL. Follow the money buddy, and the logic is there. Who bought the bombed out cigarette factory in Serbia? Not Phillip Morris! Gasp!

marKo

pre 10 godina

Wili,

I can't believe you are going down that old road of national superiority. It is difficult for a Serb to listen to a person who defends Nato Aggression and bombardment lecture about Serbia's bloody past, Germany's "European Values", and what the Serbian nation needs to do before you would consider us a worthy partner or equal. Whatever the case it is a good thing people like you have no power or influence. You as an individual are only good for paying taxes so Greek politicians have money to blow and Nato weaponry can be sent to Syrian terrorists.

As far as the German Governments "principled" reaction to Russia is this- Your mighty German government will do anything it can to help the Ukraine, except anything that might hurt the Eurozone economy, or that might result in a Russian response! Merkel is not going to Putin's G8 pool party. What a crushing blow the principled EU has dealt Russia. What Great friends you are to help the Ukraine. I heard Putin feels defeated, and he already paid the caterer and ordered the centerpieces. He even got Merkel's mother's special kartoffelsalat recipe and now he is stuck with a permanant naval base, some new oil fields and 26,000 square kilometers. When he heard that Montenegro's government imposed sanctions, Putin is rumored to have considered suicide.

It is just too bad that Serbia didn't join into Europes principled response and rush to defend international law.

J

pre 10 godina

Mirel Azir J et al. This indoctrination of falsehoods seems to have made you all take leave of your senses. You walk around in this haze of victimhood when it was you who caused the problems that then beset you. You can repeat your accusations against Serbdom till kingdom come but that will never render them true and deep down you know it,you know the truth my friends. Serbia IS owed an apology.
(Ummm., 24 March 2014 23:39)

Ahh, yes sure. I couldn't wait till our autonomy was stripped. Because there's nothing better than not having a voice in the political and decision making process. Why would I ever want a say when a Serb could do it for me. I couldn't wait for the day when I could no longer study in my language. I could not wait for the day when my parents were fired; for being Albanian. I could not wait to be beaten by Serb police when returning from houses that were turned into clandestine schools and were teaching me how to read. I could not wait to have for the day when the Serb army burned our houses and have my baby cousin killed. I could not wait to walk hungry and barefoot in the middle of the winter through snowy mountains. Especially since none of the Serb neighbors had to the same. I guess the Serbs were so nice they gave us a head start. People like yourself perpetuate these crimes on a daily basis. The only difference between people who think like you and those who committed all these crimes is that they took away the power for you to repeat these crimes.

Willi Pfaff

pre 10 godina

All the recent comments by the serb political elite concerning Russia, Ukraine, their own place in history, the war, relationship with the West, etc. show that with these people in charge, Serbia can and really should not be allowed to become a member of the EU. Their value systems and basic political believes simply aren't the same, and before they can be part of the West, they have to go though a very tough, long and painful process of facing reality, and have to realize what horrible things were committed in the name of Serbia all ocer the balkans. This is not going to happen soon, and there is no sign that any attempts are made in that direction. There is an unwillingness to face it's own bloody history, and for Serbia to become a member in the EU, they would have to completly rewrite their own history and reeducate their society, finally tell people the truth, and not cover everything up with dedicules mystic BS. Serbia has a long, long way to go to become an open society which can be a part of a United Europe.

Drazen

pre 10 godina

Where is Nikolic's apology on behalf of all the crimes committed against Croats, Bosniaks, Kosovars and all other people of the former Yugo???

Sweep your own doorstep, Nikolic, before looking for a broom from others.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Zoran, 24 March 2014 20:26)

A "good" article on RT aka Kremlin's Fox News? LOL! Robert Bridge is just another well vetted looser with fringe opinions who operates from his bedroom, then RT presents him as some sort of authority just because his views are line with the Kremlin's.

What Bridge doesn't take into account is that the UNSC ordered FR Yugoslavia (FRY) on 3 occasions (UNSC Resolutions 1160, 1199 & 1203) to cease hostilities on the civilian population of Kosovo, allow humanitarian aid to the refugees & find a political solution to the Kosovo Crisis.

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. NATO gave peaceful diplomatic efforts more than enough time to succeed. Milosevic is to blame for the Kosovo War, his ultra-nationalism caused the conflict in the first place & NATO's intervention could have been avoided if FRY military & paramilitary forces had ceased hostilities towards the civilian population of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that there were civilian casualties in NATO's intervention; with hindsight, better precision could have ensured that NATO only hit military & political targets. However there would have been no bombings at all had Milosevic listened to the UNSC.

mog

pre 10 godina

Of course there can´t be an apology as long as Serbia, ruled by the western imposed quisling cult and 1.800 western NGO´s heavily entrenched in the Serbian society, remain a NATO occupied territory held at gunpoint.

At this stage it is a self inflicted position of weakness for which German EUSSR and the US has nothing but contempt. True, every "different" regime immediately start singing the same tune, praising it´s IMF/EUSSR/US masters and some political figures as well as brave men who fought NATO are kept indefinitly in the former Nazi interrogation dungeons in the Hague. But it dont have to be that way.Russia and Syria showed the world that the emperor is naked. Russia and the BRICS are strong traditional partners of a free, sovereign and independent Serbia. If it truly want to brake free it must take the first step, like the Crimeans, then it will eventually find itself in a position of strength where it can demand apologies as well as reparations for the western onslaught and the atomic waste (D.U).

icj1

pre 10 godina

It has been proven that the most of the so called "crimes" committed by the Serbs against others during the conflicts has been exaggerated, overestimated and quite clearly falsified by the US&UK propaganda machine. Plethora of the former "high officials" have came forward with the statements exonerating us from most of the wrong doings that we have been accused of. Use google for more details.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

"Google" is not proof :)
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Now, let me tell you a story about 78 days of malicious, merciless, vicious bombing campaign of my country... with more civilian deaths then police and military combined, more civilian targets hit then those of the army, in short: 19 hospitals, 20 clinics, 18 kindergardens, 69 schools, 176 monuments and 44 bridges. Belgrade has been bombed 212 times during those 78 days.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

Mate, if the bombing campaign had been malicious, merciless, vicious, you have to multiply those numbers by 10 or 100 and Serbia would not be on the map today any longer.
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We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

So, let me understand this... Somebody at NATO woke up in the morning of 23 March 1999 and said "we need somebody to break up today for fun.... Let's bomb Serbia tonight" and so the bombing started.

icj1

pre 10 godina

I don't see the point in such statements. Seriously TOMA, you know you won't get any apology. NATO did not apologize for the innocent victims in Libya...
(Unknown, 24 March 2014 17:54)

As the end of the day, a few thousand people were killed in Libya (according to the UN, only 60 of them were killed by NATO)... In Syria is more than 100,000 and counting, but on the positive side Assad is still there "standing up" to the evil West.

I guess for some people is better to have 100,000 killed in Libya, as well, but at least Ghadaffi would have still been in power for the joy of some who only care about somebody "standing up" to the evil West!!!!

Mate, if Serbia had followed the logic of not rebelling against the Ottoman Empire because some Serbs might be killed in the process, Serbia would not be a country today. Unfortunately, sometimes, people are killed in the process of getting rid of dictators, but the alternative of a conflict that drags on for years is far worse, as Syria clearly shows.

justhetruth

pre 10 godina

I think this Guy and other guy Vulin will send very soon Serbia back a another 25 years ,or serbian nation will be stuck for a long time in the past and i dont know my Q is do you really ask yourself how is possible hungarians,polish,slovaks,checks,bulgarians,romuns are way a head of you guys when before the co-laps of the USSR they didn't know what is LEVI'S jEANS or nice running shoes as Nike,Adidas etc or real western life ... when in ex Yugoslavia you could get everything in those times and now what's happening??

Marko

pre 10 godina

My God- when are you guys going to WAKE UP. NATO and the EU??? Serbia are u kdding me?? Serbia will DEFINITELY be better off out of the EU economically. The future of Serbia, like Russia, is EAST. People in Germany will NEVER buy stuff manufactured in Serbia. It will NOT trickle down- please. Serbia needs economic reform and freedom, democracy. They need to manufacture and sell to BRIC countries, and any others that they can maintain favourable trade ties with. This does NOT require the EU. They do not need to crawl, literally, towards the corrupt, beurocratic, institution of German hegemony. Borrow from Russia- Vladimir is generous to his friends.

Bridge

pre 10 godina

Please take a look in the mirror before you decided to point finger at someone else, because unlike your people, we do not make our livelyhood by smuggling drugs or human trafficking or human organ trafficking.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

Oh my god! Just a few days ago a drug kingping ( serb ) was arrested. Pink panther ( serbs ) etc. " organ trafficking " you have no evidence. Instead of those money that belgrad paid Dick marty, they could've send
to Hollywood and make a movie. You serb killed a Swedish minister in 2003, you serbs robbed the G4 bank in stockholm few years ago. You want more facts? i got FACTS! you got propaganda!

j

pre 10 godina

We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.

-- Ah, so you wanted a court of law to decide whether punishing you was correct or not. Its a little funny because I don't remember any court of law in Serbia punishing me and my family with expulsion. You see we weren't afforded the luxury of a court decision when some random Serb dude on top a tank and armed to his teeth decided that i was time for us to hit the mountains. Yet you wanted a court decision for your own self. How nice of you. You got off easy. Too easy. With all the pain and and suffering you brought to all the balkans they should have treated you the same way they did Germany. They should have made each Serbian civilian burry our dead and rebuild our burned homes, brick by brick, so you knew the scale of your crimes and we wouldn't have to deal with the usual Serb fool, trying to convince me on a daily basis that I had sudden this urge to walk through the snowy mountains in the middle of winter, barefoot and without any food. This how shameless and foolish your society is.

Avni

pre 10 godina

(Tomislav Nikolić spoke in Varvarin on Monday to say that "no sincere apology has been heard so far" for NATO's attacks on a bridge there that killed ten people.)

Is Tomislav Nikolić joking? He's talking about 10 people. How about 8.000 Bosnian men during Srebrenica massacre. I'm not even going to mention other crimes. I head Germans are still waiting for an apology for crimes done to them during WWII.

Ummm.

pre 10 godina

Mirel Azir J et al. This indoctrination of falsehoods seems to have made you all take leave of your senses. You walk around in this haze of victimhood when it was you who caused the problems that then beset you. You can repeat your accusations against Serbdom till kingdom come but that will never render them true and deep down you know it,you know the truth my friends. Serbia IS owed an apology.

Englishman

pre 10 godina

When are Serb Politicians going to wake up?there won't be an opology because those fascist criminals don't think they did anything wrong,for Gods sake wake up and stop collaborating with those people.

Zoran

pre 10 godina

Here is a good article written by Robert Bridge about NATO and its role in the former YU. Check -> http://rt.com/op-edge/anniversary-of-yugoslavia-bombings-nato-877/

J

pre 10 godina

" to say that 18 NATO member states dropped bombs destroying civilian targets, children and the elderly, as if in a virtual game, while their propaganda machine referred to the victims as "collateral damage."

--You haven't apologized to the Albanians yet. You forced a million of us out of our homes and killed thousands of us. It is because of this you were being bombed. We don't forget either. If you are unwilling to apologize for your crimes then don't expect others to apologize to you.

Unknown

pre 10 godina

I don't see the point in such statements. Seriously TOMA, you know you won't get any apology. NATO did not apologize for the innocent victims in Libya or Afghanistan. You want the alliance of the strongest countries on the planet to apologize?! You want the US to admit its atrocities?
Instead of asking for an apology, why don't you be smart and join the alliance and avoid future bombings. After all, Milosevic was not a merciful angel either right?

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

This is like germans to ask jews,russians,english and americans for an apology after WWII.
This guy is a joke.
Why dont you apologize for the victims that your barbaric state and army coused in Slovenia,Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo?

Once you do this,THAN you have the right to ask others for their apologies.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

" to say that 18 NATO member states dropped bombs destroying civilian targets, children and the elderly, as if in a virtual game, while their propaganda machine referred to the victims as "collateral damage."

Today you call those murderers your "friends"

Bogdan

pre 10 godina

(Mirel from Albania, 24 March 2014 17:15)

Making comparison between Serbia and the Nazi Germany is not only wrong (on every possible human level) it is also completely falsifying the truth and the facts, something that you, Albanians, are very familiar with.

It has been proven that the most of the so called "crimes" committed by the Serbs against others during the conflicts has been exaggerated, overestimated and quite clearly falsified by the US&UK propaganda machine. Plethora of the former "high officials" have came forward with the statements exonerating us from most of the wrong doings that we have been accused of. Use google for more details.

Now, let me tell you a story about 78 days of malicious, merciless, vicious bombing campaign of my country... with more civilian deaths then police and military combined, more civilian targets hit then those of the army, in short: 19 hospitals, 20 clinics, 18 kindergardens, 69 schools, 176 monuments and 44 bridges. Belgrade has been bombed 212 times during those 78 days.

We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.

Please take a look in the mirror before you decided to point finger at someone else, because unlike your people, we do not make our livelyhood by smuggling drugs or human trafficking or human organ trafficking.

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

This is like germans to ask jews,russians,english and americans for an apology after WWII.
This guy is a joke.
Why dont you apologize for the victims that your barbaric state and army coused in Slovenia,Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo?

Once you do this,THAN you have the right to ask others for their apologies.

Bogdan

pre 10 godina

(Mirel from Albania, 24 March 2014 17:15)

Making comparison between Serbia and the Nazi Germany is not only wrong (on every possible human level) it is also completely falsifying the truth and the facts, something that you, Albanians, are very familiar with.

It has been proven that the most of the so called "crimes" committed by the Serbs against others during the conflicts has been exaggerated, overestimated and quite clearly falsified by the US&UK propaganda machine. Plethora of the former "high officials" have came forward with the statements exonerating us from most of the wrong doings that we have been accused of. Use google for more details.

Now, let me tell you a story about 78 days of malicious, merciless, vicious bombing campaign of my country... with more civilian deaths then police and military combined, more civilian targets hit then those of the army, in short: 19 hospitals, 20 clinics, 18 kindergardens, 69 schools, 176 monuments and 44 bridges. Belgrade has been bombed 212 times during those 78 days.

We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.

Please take a look in the mirror before you decided to point finger at someone else, because unlike your people, we do not make our livelyhood by smuggling drugs or human trafficking or human organ trafficking.

J

pre 10 godina

" to say that 18 NATO member states dropped bombs destroying civilian targets, children and the elderly, as if in a virtual game, while their propaganda machine referred to the victims as "collateral damage."

--You haven't apologized to the Albanians yet. You forced a million of us out of our homes and killed thousands of us. It is because of this you were being bombed. We don't forget either. If you are unwilling to apologize for your crimes then don't expect others to apologize to you.

Englishman

pre 10 godina

When are Serb Politicians going to wake up?there won't be an opology because those fascist criminals don't think they did anything wrong,for Gods sake wake up and stop collaborating with those people.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

" to say that 18 NATO member states dropped bombs destroying civilian targets, children and the elderly, as if in a virtual game, while their propaganda machine referred to the victims as "collateral damage."

Today you call those murderers your "friends"

icj1

pre 10 godina

It has been proven that the most of the so called "crimes" committed by the Serbs against others during the conflicts has been exaggerated, overestimated and quite clearly falsified by the US&UK propaganda machine. Plethora of the former "high officials" have came forward with the statements exonerating us from most of the wrong doings that we have been accused of. Use google for more details.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

"Google" is not proof :)
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Now, let me tell you a story about 78 days of malicious, merciless, vicious bombing campaign of my country... with more civilian deaths then police and military combined, more civilian targets hit then those of the army, in short: 19 hospitals, 20 clinics, 18 kindergardens, 69 schools, 176 monuments and 44 bridges. Belgrade has been bombed 212 times during those 78 days.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

Mate, if the bombing campaign had been malicious, merciless, vicious, you have to multiply those numbers by 10 or 100 and Serbia would not be on the map today any longer.
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We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

So, let me understand this... Somebody at NATO woke up in the morning of 23 March 1999 and said "we need somebody to break up today for fun.... Let's bomb Serbia tonight" and so the bombing started.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Zoran, 24 March 2014 20:26)

A "good" article on RT aka Kremlin's Fox News? LOL! Robert Bridge is just another well vetted looser with fringe opinions who operates from his bedroom, then RT presents him as some sort of authority just because his views are line with the Kremlin's.

What Bridge doesn't take into account is that the UNSC ordered FR Yugoslavia (FRY) on 3 occasions (UNSC Resolutions 1160, 1199 & 1203) to cease hostilities on the civilian population of Kosovo, allow humanitarian aid to the refugees & find a political solution to the Kosovo Crisis.

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. NATO gave peaceful diplomatic efforts more than enough time to succeed. Milosevic is to blame for the Kosovo War, his ultra-nationalism caused the conflict in the first place & NATO's intervention could have been avoided if FRY military & paramilitary forces had ceased hostilities towards the civilian population of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that there were civilian casualties in NATO's intervention; with hindsight, better precision could have ensured that NATO only hit military & political targets. However there would have been no bombings at all had Milosevic listened to the UNSC.

Avni

pre 10 godina

(Tomislav Nikolić spoke in Varvarin on Monday to say that "no sincere apology has been heard so far" for NATO's attacks on a bridge there that killed ten people.)

Is Tomislav Nikolić joking? He's talking about 10 people. How about 8.000 Bosnian men during Srebrenica massacre. I'm not even going to mention other crimes. I head Germans are still waiting for an apology for crimes done to them during WWII.

Willi Pfaff

pre 10 godina

All the recent comments by the serb political elite concerning Russia, Ukraine, their own place in history, the war, relationship with the West, etc. show that with these people in charge, Serbia can and really should not be allowed to become a member of the EU. Their value systems and basic political believes simply aren't the same, and before they can be part of the West, they have to go though a very tough, long and painful process of facing reality, and have to realize what horrible things were committed in the name of Serbia all ocer the balkans. This is not going to happen soon, and there is no sign that any attempts are made in that direction. There is an unwillingness to face it's own bloody history, and for Serbia to become a member in the EU, they would have to completly rewrite their own history and reeducate their society, finally tell people the truth, and not cover everything up with dedicules mystic BS. Serbia has a long, long way to go to become an open society which can be a part of a United Europe.

Unknown

pre 10 godina

I don't see the point in such statements. Seriously TOMA, you know you won't get any apology. NATO did not apologize for the innocent victims in Libya or Afghanistan. You want the alliance of the strongest countries on the planet to apologize?! You want the US to admit its atrocities?
Instead of asking for an apology, why don't you be smart and join the alliance and avoid future bombings. After all, Milosevic was not a merciful angel either right?

j

pre 10 godina

We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.

-- Ah, so you wanted a court of law to decide whether punishing you was correct or not. Its a little funny because I don't remember any court of law in Serbia punishing me and my family with expulsion. You see we weren't afforded the luxury of a court decision when some random Serb dude on top a tank and armed to his teeth decided that i was time for us to hit the mountains. Yet you wanted a court decision for your own self. How nice of you. You got off easy. Too easy. With all the pain and and suffering you brought to all the balkans they should have treated you the same way they did Germany. They should have made each Serbian civilian burry our dead and rebuild our burned homes, brick by brick, so you knew the scale of your crimes and we wouldn't have to deal with the usual Serb fool, trying to convince me on a daily basis that I had sudden this urge to walk through the snowy mountains in the middle of winter, barefoot and without any food. This how shameless and foolish your society is.

Bridge

pre 10 godina

Please take a look in the mirror before you decided to point finger at someone else, because unlike your people, we do not make our livelyhood by smuggling drugs or human trafficking or human organ trafficking.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

Oh my god! Just a few days ago a drug kingping ( serb ) was arrested. Pink panther ( serbs ) etc. " organ trafficking " you have no evidence. Instead of those money that belgrad paid Dick marty, they could've send
to Hollywood and make a movie. You serb killed a Swedish minister in 2003, you serbs robbed the G4 bank in stockholm few years ago. You want more facts? i got FACTS! you got propaganda!

Drazen

pre 10 godina

Where is Nikolic's apology on behalf of all the crimes committed against Croats, Bosniaks, Kosovars and all other people of the former Yugo???

Sweep your own doorstep, Nikolic, before looking for a broom from others.

icj1

pre 10 godina

I don't see the point in such statements. Seriously TOMA, you know you won't get any apology. NATO did not apologize for the innocent victims in Libya...
(Unknown, 24 March 2014 17:54)

As the end of the day, a few thousand people were killed in Libya (according to the UN, only 60 of them were killed by NATO)... In Syria is more than 100,000 and counting, but on the positive side Assad is still there "standing up" to the evil West.

I guess for some people is better to have 100,000 killed in Libya, as well, but at least Ghadaffi would have still been in power for the joy of some who only care about somebody "standing up" to the evil West!!!!

Mate, if Serbia had followed the logic of not rebelling against the Ottoman Empire because some Serbs might be killed in the process, Serbia would not be a country today. Unfortunately, sometimes, people are killed in the process of getting rid of dictators, but the alternative of a conflict that drags on for years is far worse, as Syria clearly shows.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

And fyi the MONTENEGRIN Darko Saric moves cocaine and not heroin.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 23:25)

I thought Montenegrins are Serbs? Or are they only Serbs when it is convenient?

justhetruth

pre 10 godina

I think this Guy and other guy Vulin will send very soon Serbia back a another 25 years ,or serbian nation will be stuck for a long time in the past and i dont know my Q is do you really ask yourself how is possible hungarians,polish,slovaks,checks,bulgarians,romuns are way a head of you guys when before the co-laps of the USSR they didn't know what is LEVI'S jEANS or nice running shoes as Nike,Adidas etc or real western life ... when in ex Yugoslavia you could get everything in those times and now what's happening??

J

pre 10 godina

Mirel Azir J et al. This indoctrination of falsehoods seems to have made you all take leave of your senses. You walk around in this haze of victimhood when it was you who caused the problems that then beset you. You can repeat your accusations against Serbdom till kingdom come but that will never render them true and deep down you know it,you know the truth my friends. Serbia IS owed an apology.
(Ummm., 24 March 2014 23:39)

Ahh, yes sure. I couldn't wait till our autonomy was stripped. Because there's nothing better than not having a voice in the political and decision making process. Why would I ever want a say when a Serb could do it for me. I couldn't wait for the day when I could no longer study in my language. I could not wait for the day when my parents were fired; for being Albanian. I could not wait to be beaten by Serb police when returning from houses that were turned into clandestine schools and were teaching me how to read. I could not wait to have for the day when the Serb army burned our houses and have my baby cousin killed. I could not wait to walk hungry and barefoot in the middle of the winter through snowy mountains. Especially since none of the Serb neighbors had to the same. I guess the Serbs were so nice they gave us a head start. People like yourself perpetuate these crimes on a daily basis. The only difference between people who think like you and those who committed all these crimes is that they took away the power for you to repeat these crimes.

Zoran

pre 10 godina

Here is a good article written by Robert Bridge about NATO and its role in the former YU. Check -> http://rt.com/op-edge/anniversary-of-yugoslavia-bombings-nato-877/

Ummm.

pre 10 godina

Mirel Azir J et al. This indoctrination of falsehoods seems to have made you all take leave of your senses. You walk around in this haze of victimhood when it was you who caused the problems that then beset you. You can repeat your accusations against Serbdom till kingdom come but that will never render them true and deep down you know it,you know the truth my friends. Serbia IS owed an apology.

Marko

pre 10 godina

My God- when are you guys going to WAKE UP. NATO and the EU??? Serbia are u kdding me?? Serbia will DEFINITELY be better off out of the EU economically. The future of Serbia, like Russia, is EAST. People in Germany will NEVER buy stuff manufactured in Serbia. It will NOT trickle down- please. Serbia needs economic reform and freedom, democracy. They need to manufacture and sell to BRIC countries, and any others that they can maintain favourable trade ties with. This does NOT require the EU. They do not need to crawl, literally, towards the corrupt, beurocratic, institution of German hegemony. Borrow from Russia- Vladimir is generous to his friends.

mog

pre 10 godina

Of course there can´t be an apology as long as Serbia, ruled by the western imposed quisling cult and 1.800 western NGO´s heavily entrenched in the Serbian society, remain a NATO occupied territory held at gunpoint.

At this stage it is a self inflicted position of weakness for which German EUSSR and the US has nothing but contempt. True, every "different" regime immediately start singing the same tune, praising it´s IMF/EUSSR/US masters and some political figures as well as brave men who fought NATO are kept indefinitly in the former Nazi interrogation dungeons in the Hague. But it dont have to be that way.Russia and Syria showed the world that the emperor is naked. Russia and the BRICS are strong traditional partners of a free, sovereign and independent Serbia. If it truly want to brake free it must take the first step, like the Crimeans, then it will eventually find itself in a position of strength where it can demand apologies as well as reparations for the western onslaught and the atomic waste (D.U).

marKo

pre 10 godina

Wili,

I can't believe you are going down that old road of national superiority. It is difficult for a Serb to listen to a person who defends Nato Aggression and bombardment lecture about Serbia's bloody past, Germany's "European Values", and what the Serbian nation needs to do before you would consider us a worthy partner or equal. Whatever the case it is a good thing people like you have no power or influence. You as an individual are only good for paying taxes so Greek politicians have money to blow and Nato weaponry can be sent to Syrian terrorists.

As far as the German Governments "principled" reaction to Russia is this- Your mighty German government will do anything it can to help the Ukraine, except anything that might hurt the Eurozone economy, or that might result in a Russian response! Merkel is not going to Putin's G8 pool party. What a crushing blow the principled EU has dealt Russia. What Great friends you are to help the Ukraine. I heard Putin feels defeated, and he already paid the caterer and ordered the centerpieces. He even got Merkel's mother's special kartoffelsalat recipe and now he is stuck with a permanant naval base, some new oil fields and 26,000 square kilometers. When he heard that Montenegro's government imposed sanctions, Putin is rumored to have considered suicide.

It is just too bad that Serbia didn't join into Europes principled response and rush to defend international law.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. NATO gave peaceful diplomatic efforts more than enough time to succeed. Milosevic is to blame for the Kosovo War, his ultra-nationalism caused the conflict in the first place & NATO's intervention could have been avoided if FRY military & paramilitary forces had ceased hostilities towards the civilian population of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that there were civilian casualties in NATO's intervention; with hindsight, better precision could have ensured that NATO only hit military & political targets. However there would have been no bombings at all had Milosevic listened to the UNSC.
(Ian, UK, 25 March 2014 10:58)

LOL....a hahahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! WOW! Yup, NATO's first choice was not aggresion. Nor did they have any plans to build a huge base in Kosovo, for Madeline Albright's corporation (Albright Capital Management) to invest in Kosovo, or Wesley Clark's Envidity (he's the chairman) to look into investing in Trepca. That was certainly not their first choice! LOL. Follow the money buddy, and the logic is there. Who bought the bombed out cigarette factory in Serbia? Not Phillip Morris! Gasp!

icj1

pre 10 godina

People in Germany will NEVER buy stuff manufactured in Serbia.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Why not?
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They need to manufacture and sell to BRIC countries, and any others that they can maintain favourable trade ties with.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Why only BRIC countries?! If Serbia's goods are good enough, everybody will buy them.
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Borrow from Russia- Vladimir is generous to his friends.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Yeah, ask your Greek orthodox brothers about Vladimir's generosity :)

J

pre 10 godina

Fact is that albanians supply 90%of the heroin through europe, fact is that albanians organize 100% of the trafficking.

-- Daniel, you lost me here man. Serb guy, biggest drug trafficker in the Balkans gets caught, just 2 days ago and you still have no problem pulling crap from your behind. This guy was buddies with some of your high ranking politicians too.

The NSA is scouring the internet. Careful with your ethnic threats of annihilation. You don't want your IP address on any databases do you? It is not hard to determine who you are these days. Curb your emotions and enthusiasm a little bit. For your own good.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

LOL....a hahahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! WOW! Yup, NATO's first choice was not aggresion. Nor did they have any plans to build a huge base in Kosovo, for Madeline Albright's corporation (Albright Capital Management) to invest in Kosovo, or Wesley Clark's Envidity (he's the chairman) to look into investing in Trepca. That was certainly not their first choice! LOL. Follow the money buddy, and the logic is there. Who bought the bombed out cigarette factory in Serbia? Not Phillip Morris! Gasp!
(Aleks, 26 March 2014 00:57)

So you've been playing with yourself to Boris Malagurski's so-called "documentaries"? Please spare me the conspiracy theories, next you'll be telling me how the earth is hollow and full of Aliens/ Lizard people who use mind control on the Western Elite and have formed some sort of New World Order or that Jews did 9/11 LOL.

NATO's first choice wasn't aggression, that's why on three occasions the US, UK and France used the UN Security Council to order FR Yugoslavia to stop the hostilities on Kosovar civilians and to find a peaceful solution at the negotiating table; FR Yugoslavia ignored. Milosevic ignored soft power three times, he found it a little harder to ignore hard power and now he is burning in Hell with Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, Thatcher and Gaddafi.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Hollywood and make a movie. You serb killed a Swedish minister in 2003, you serbs robbed the G4 bank in stockholm few years ago. You want more facts? i got FACTS! you got propaganda!
(Bridge, 25 March 2014 02:15)

As a matter of fact I live in Sweden and know very well that no serbs were involved in the g4 robbery, 4 swedish guys were convicted. You got nothing but LIES. Fact is that albanians supply 90%of the heroin through europe, fact is that albanians organize 100% of the trafficking. Fact is that albanians are the worst criminals wherever they live, fact is that albanians should be oppressed and tortured because it would make the world a better place, fact is that albanians are lowlife neanderthals that live in clans. Fact is that albanians in the 21st century fight bloodfeuds. Those are facts unlike your lies and propaganda. Now get the hell out of our sites.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. '


Of course it was the preferred choice. The rambouillet was offered because they knew that Serbia would never agree, what country would agree to be completely occupied by NATO soldiers. Serbia does not call it a NATO aggression, it was de facto an aggression since there was no UN resolution and that automatically makes it an aggression. NATO bombing a sovereign contry for more than 3 months isnt an aggression and Russia peacefully taking over a part of Ukraine that wants to be russian somehow is aggression right? Hypocrite. Hope Russia and China bombs the hell out of England so you would know how that feels.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Daniel, you lost me here man. Serb guy, biggest drug trafficker in the Balkans gets caught, just 2 days ago and you still have no problem pulling crap from your behind. This guy was buddies with some of your high ranking politicians too.


Since when is Darko Saric a serb? If anyone is lost on a serb site its you and your fellow albos.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

And fyi the MONTENEGRIN Darko Saric moves cocaine and not heroin.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 23:25)

I thought Montenegrins are Serbs? Or are they only Serbs when it is convenient?
(Ian, UK, 27 March 2014 12:24)

He is only playing the same game you play. It's a shame that my response to you is not being posted today...I imagine it got lost in electron land somewhere. Anyway, read up on the NY Times about my 'conspiracy theories' about Clark, Albright, and the US diplomats/businesses tripping over themselves in Kosovo over who was going to 'invest' (get) in what.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

He is only playing the same game you play. It's a shame that my response to you is not being posted today...I imagine it got lost in electron land somewhere. Anyway, read up on the NY Times about my 'conspiracy theories' about Clark, Albright, and the US diplomats/businesses tripping over themselves in Kosovo over who was going to 'invest' (get) in what.
(Aleks, 27 March 2014 22:01)

But I thought Kosovo was an economic hell hole? But now you're telling me that Western Politicians have invested there to make money?

Your arguments are contradictory and don't make sense, but then again, you are brainwashed and deluded.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

But I thought Kosovo was an economic hell hole? But now you're telling me that Western Politicians have invested there to make money?

Your arguments are contradictory and don't make sense, but then again, you are brainwashed and deluded.
(Ian, UK, 28 March 2014 10:07)

Are you this stupid? Or do you try extra hard? :) Let's see now...Iraq is an economic hell hole, as well as Afghanistan. Kosovo is too. I am not saying that to put Kosovo down, it is a reality that it is an economic hell hole. You know who is not in an economic hell hole? The foreign businesses who went there to invest and TAKE all the money with them. They have made billions in Iraq and Afghanistan yet those countries are poor. If you don't believe this is happening and going on, then you need to stop wasting your time posting here because you are way out of touch with the real world.

There are tons of US businesses that are investing in all types of countries all over the world in Asia, yet those countries are horrendously poor economically. That's because the money and profits don't belong or stay there. From your posts, I gather that you are fairly in tune with all of this. You are fairly sharp on how this all works. What you try to do is use stupidity in an attempt to divert attention from facts you cannot refute.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Oh my god! Just a few days ago a drug kingping ( serb ) was arrested. Pink panther ( serbs ) etc. " organ trafficking " you have no evidence. Instead of those money that belgrad paid Dick marty, they could've send

Since when is Darko Saric a serb? He is montenegrin just like 90%of the pink Panthers.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Yeah, ask your Greek orthodox brothers about Vladimir's generosity :)
(icj1, 26 March 2014 04:16)

Of course the russians are not stupid enough to borrow to a country that is a part of the 4th Reich.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Hope Russia and China bombs the hell out of England so you would know how that feels.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 12:34)

I hope they bomb Old Trafford first ;)

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

This is like germans to ask jews,russians,english and americans for an apology after WWII.
This guy is a joke.
Why dont you apologize for the victims that your barbaric state and army coused in Slovenia,Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo?

Once you do this,THAN you have the right to ask others for their apologies.

J

pre 10 godina

" to say that 18 NATO member states dropped bombs destroying civilian targets, children and the elderly, as if in a virtual game, while their propaganda machine referred to the victims as "collateral damage."

--You haven't apologized to the Albanians yet. You forced a million of us out of our homes and killed thousands of us. It is because of this you were being bombed. We don't forget either. If you are unwilling to apologize for your crimes then don't expect others to apologize to you.

Zoran

pre 10 godina

Here is a good article written by Robert Bridge about NATO and its role in the former YU. Check -> http://rt.com/op-edge/anniversary-of-yugoslavia-bombings-nato-877/

Bogdan

pre 10 godina

(Mirel from Albania, 24 March 2014 17:15)

Making comparison between Serbia and the Nazi Germany is not only wrong (on every possible human level) it is also completely falsifying the truth and the facts, something that you, Albanians, are very familiar with.

It has been proven that the most of the so called "crimes" committed by the Serbs against others during the conflicts has been exaggerated, overestimated and quite clearly falsified by the US&UK propaganda machine. Plethora of the former "high officials" have came forward with the statements exonerating us from most of the wrong doings that we have been accused of. Use google for more details.

Now, let me tell you a story about 78 days of malicious, merciless, vicious bombing campaign of my country... with more civilian deaths then police and military combined, more civilian targets hit then those of the army, in short: 19 hospitals, 20 clinics, 18 kindergardens, 69 schools, 176 monuments and 44 bridges. Belgrade has been bombed 212 times during those 78 days.

We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.

Please take a look in the mirror before you decided to point finger at someone else, because unlike your people, we do not make our livelyhood by smuggling drugs or human trafficking or human organ trafficking.

Englishman

pre 10 godina

When are Serb Politicians going to wake up?there won't be an opology because those fascist criminals don't think they did anything wrong,for Gods sake wake up and stop collaborating with those people.

Unknown

pre 10 godina

I don't see the point in such statements. Seriously TOMA, you know you won't get any apology. NATO did not apologize for the innocent victims in Libya or Afghanistan. You want the alliance of the strongest countries on the planet to apologize?! You want the US to admit its atrocities?
Instead of asking for an apology, why don't you be smart and join the alliance and avoid future bombings. After all, Milosevic was not a merciful angel either right?

Marko

pre 10 godina

My God- when are you guys going to WAKE UP. NATO and the EU??? Serbia are u kdding me?? Serbia will DEFINITELY be better off out of the EU economically. The future of Serbia, like Russia, is EAST. People in Germany will NEVER buy stuff manufactured in Serbia. It will NOT trickle down- please. Serbia needs economic reform and freedom, democracy. They need to manufacture and sell to BRIC countries, and any others that they can maintain favourable trade ties with. This does NOT require the EU. They do not need to crawl, literally, towards the corrupt, beurocratic, institution of German hegemony. Borrow from Russia- Vladimir is generous to his friends.

Ummm.

pre 10 godina

Mirel Azir J et al. This indoctrination of falsehoods seems to have made you all take leave of your senses. You walk around in this haze of victimhood when it was you who caused the problems that then beset you. You can repeat your accusations against Serbdom till kingdom come but that will never render them true and deep down you know it,you know the truth my friends. Serbia IS owed an apology.

mog

pre 10 godina

Of course there can´t be an apology as long as Serbia, ruled by the western imposed quisling cult and 1.800 western NGO´s heavily entrenched in the Serbian society, remain a NATO occupied territory held at gunpoint.

At this stage it is a self inflicted position of weakness for which German EUSSR and the US has nothing but contempt. True, every "different" regime immediately start singing the same tune, praising it´s IMF/EUSSR/US masters and some political figures as well as brave men who fought NATO are kept indefinitly in the former Nazi interrogation dungeons in the Hague. But it dont have to be that way.Russia and Syria showed the world that the emperor is naked. Russia and the BRICS are strong traditional partners of a free, sovereign and independent Serbia. If it truly want to brake free it must take the first step, like the Crimeans, then it will eventually find itself in a position of strength where it can demand apologies as well as reparations for the western onslaught and the atomic waste (D.U).

Joachim

pre 10 godina

" to say that 18 NATO member states dropped bombs destroying civilian targets, children and the elderly, as if in a virtual game, while their propaganda machine referred to the victims as "collateral damage."

Today you call those murderers your "friends"

icj1

pre 10 godina

It has been proven that the most of the so called "crimes" committed by the Serbs against others during the conflicts has been exaggerated, overestimated and quite clearly falsified by the US&UK propaganda machine. Plethora of the former "high officials" have came forward with the statements exonerating us from most of the wrong doings that we have been accused of. Use google for more details.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

"Google" is not proof :)
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Now, let me tell you a story about 78 days of malicious, merciless, vicious bombing campaign of my country... with more civilian deaths then police and military combined, more civilian targets hit then those of the army, in short: 19 hospitals, 20 clinics, 18 kindergardens, 69 schools, 176 monuments and 44 bridges. Belgrade has been bombed 212 times during those 78 days.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

Mate, if the bombing campaign had been malicious, merciless, vicious, you have to multiply those numbers by 10 or 100 and Serbia would not be on the map today any longer.
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We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

So, let me understand this... Somebody at NATO woke up in the morning of 23 March 1999 and said "we need somebody to break up today for fun.... Let's bomb Serbia tonight" and so the bombing started.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Zoran, 24 March 2014 20:26)

A "good" article on RT aka Kremlin's Fox News? LOL! Robert Bridge is just another well vetted looser with fringe opinions who operates from his bedroom, then RT presents him as some sort of authority just because his views are line with the Kremlin's.

What Bridge doesn't take into account is that the UNSC ordered FR Yugoslavia (FRY) on 3 occasions (UNSC Resolutions 1160, 1199 & 1203) to cease hostilities on the civilian population of Kosovo, allow humanitarian aid to the refugees & find a political solution to the Kosovo Crisis.

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. NATO gave peaceful diplomatic efforts more than enough time to succeed. Milosevic is to blame for the Kosovo War, his ultra-nationalism caused the conflict in the first place & NATO's intervention could have been avoided if FRY military & paramilitary forces had ceased hostilities towards the civilian population of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that there were civilian casualties in NATO's intervention; with hindsight, better precision could have ensured that NATO only hit military & political targets. However there would have been no bombings at all had Milosevic listened to the UNSC.

marKo

pre 10 godina

Wili,

I can't believe you are going down that old road of national superiority. It is difficult for a Serb to listen to a person who defends Nato Aggression and bombardment lecture about Serbia's bloody past, Germany's "European Values", and what the Serbian nation needs to do before you would consider us a worthy partner or equal. Whatever the case it is a good thing people like you have no power or influence. You as an individual are only good for paying taxes so Greek politicians have money to blow and Nato weaponry can be sent to Syrian terrorists.

As far as the German Governments "principled" reaction to Russia is this- Your mighty German government will do anything it can to help the Ukraine, except anything that might hurt the Eurozone economy, or that might result in a Russian response! Merkel is not going to Putin's G8 pool party. What a crushing blow the principled EU has dealt Russia. What Great friends you are to help the Ukraine. I heard Putin feels defeated, and he already paid the caterer and ordered the centerpieces. He even got Merkel's mother's special kartoffelsalat recipe and now he is stuck with a permanant naval base, some new oil fields and 26,000 square kilometers. When he heard that Montenegro's government imposed sanctions, Putin is rumored to have considered suicide.

It is just too bad that Serbia didn't join into Europes principled response and rush to defend international law.

Bridge

pre 10 godina

Please take a look in the mirror before you decided to point finger at someone else, because unlike your people, we do not make our livelyhood by smuggling drugs or human trafficking or human organ trafficking.
(Bogdan, 24 March 2014 17:54)

Oh my god! Just a few days ago a drug kingping ( serb ) was arrested. Pink panther ( serbs ) etc. " organ trafficking " you have no evidence. Instead of those money that belgrad paid Dick marty, they could've send
to Hollywood and make a movie. You serb killed a Swedish minister in 2003, you serbs robbed the G4 bank in stockholm few years ago. You want more facts? i got FACTS! you got propaganda!

icj1

pre 10 godina

I don't see the point in such statements. Seriously TOMA, you know you won't get any apology. NATO did not apologize for the innocent victims in Libya...
(Unknown, 24 March 2014 17:54)

As the end of the day, a few thousand people were killed in Libya (according to the UN, only 60 of them were killed by NATO)... In Syria is more than 100,000 and counting, but on the positive side Assad is still there "standing up" to the evil West.

I guess for some people is better to have 100,000 killed in Libya, as well, but at least Ghadaffi would have still been in power for the joy of some who only care about somebody "standing up" to the evil West!!!!

Mate, if Serbia had followed the logic of not rebelling against the Ottoman Empire because some Serbs might be killed in the process, Serbia would not be a country today. Unfortunately, sometimes, people are killed in the process of getting rid of dictators, but the alternative of a conflict that drags on for years is far worse, as Syria clearly shows.

Avni

pre 10 godina

(Tomislav Nikolić spoke in Varvarin on Monday to say that "no sincere apology has been heard so far" for NATO's attacks on a bridge there that killed ten people.)

Is Tomislav Nikolić joking? He's talking about 10 people. How about 8.000 Bosnian men during Srebrenica massacre. I'm not even going to mention other crimes. I head Germans are still waiting for an apology for crimes done to them during WWII.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. NATO gave peaceful diplomatic efforts more than enough time to succeed. Milosevic is to blame for the Kosovo War, his ultra-nationalism caused the conflict in the first place & NATO's intervention could have been avoided if FRY military & paramilitary forces had ceased hostilities towards the civilian population of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that there were civilian casualties in NATO's intervention; with hindsight, better precision could have ensured that NATO only hit military & political targets. However there would have been no bombings at all had Milosevic listened to the UNSC.
(Ian, UK, 25 March 2014 10:58)

LOL....a hahahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! WOW! Yup, NATO's first choice was not aggresion. Nor did they have any plans to build a huge base in Kosovo, for Madeline Albright's corporation (Albright Capital Management) to invest in Kosovo, or Wesley Clark's Envidity (he's the chairman) to look into investing in Trepca. That was certainly not their first choice! LOL. Follow the money buddy, and the logic is there. Who bought the bombed out cigarette factory in Serbia? Not Phillip Morris! Gasp!

Daniel

pre 10 godina

FRY was given plenty of time (1 year) to respond peacefully to the UN but ignored so NATO intervened as a last resort to stop the bully; then Serbia has the cheek to playing the victim card in the Kosovo War & call it "NATO aggression". Military intervention wasn't NATO's first & preferred choice, nor was it a rushed decision. '


Of course it was the preferred choice. The rambouillet was offered because they knew that Serbia would never agree, what country would agree to be completely occupied by NATO soldiers. Serbia does not call it a NATO aggression, it was de facto an aggression since there was no UN resolution and that automatically makes it an aggression. NATO bombing a sovereign contry for more than 3 months isnt an aggression and Russia peacefully taking over a part of Ukraine that wants to be russian somehow is aggression right? Hypocrite. Hope Russia and China bombs the hell out of England so you would know how that feels.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

LOL....a hahahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! WOW! Yup, NATO's first choice was not aggresion. Nor did they have any plans to build a huge base in Kosovo, for Madeline Albright's corporation (Albright Capital Management) to invest in Kosovo, or Wesley Clark's Envidity (he's the chairman) to look into investing in Trepca. That was certainly not their first choice! LOL. Follow the money buddy, and the logic is there. Who bought the bombed out cigarette factory in Serbia? Not Phillip Morris! Gasp!
(Aleks, 26 March 2014 00:57)

So you've been playing with yourself to Boris Malagurski's so-called "documentaries"? Please spare me the conspiracy theories, next you'll be telling me how the earth is hollow and full of Aliens/ Lizard people who use mind control on the Western Elite and have formed some sort of New World Order or that Jews did 9/11 LOL.

NATO's first choice wasn't aggression, that's why on three occasions the US, UK and France used the UN Security Council to order FR Yugoslavia to stop the hostilities on Kosovar civilians and to find a peaceful solution at the negotiating table; FR Yugoslavia ignored. Milosevic ignored soft power three times, he found it a little harder to ignore hard power and now he is burning in Hell with Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, Thatcher and Gaddafi.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Hollywood and make a movie. You serb killed a Swedish minister in 2003, you serbs robbed the G4 bank in stockholm few years ago. You want more facts? i got FACTS! you got propaganda!
(Bridge, 25 March 2014 02:15)

As a matter of fact I live in Sweden and know very well that no serbs were involved in the g4 robbery, 4 swedish guys were convicted. You got nothing but LIES. Fact is that albanians supply 90%of the heroin through europe, fact is that albanians organize 100% of the trafficking. Fact is that albanians are the worst criminals wherever they live, fact is that albanians should be oppressed and tortured because it would make the world a better place, fact is that albanians are lowlife neanderthals that live in clans. Fact is that albanians in the 21st century fight bloodfeuds. Those are facts unlike your lies and propaganda. Now get the hell out of our sites.

j

pre 10 godina

We were "punished" for the crimes we were never convicted of by the organisation which only had one agenda... to break us completely.

-- Ah, so you wanted a court of law to decide whether punishing you was correct or not. Its a little funny because I don't remember any court of law in Serbia punishing me and my family with expulsion. You see we weren't afforded the luxury of a court decision when some random Serb dude on top a tank and armed to his teeth decided that i was time for us to hit the mountains. Yet you wanted a court decision for your own self. How nice of you. You got off easy. Too easy. With all the pain and and suffering you brought to all the balkans they should have treated you the same way they did Germany. They should have made each Serbian civilian burry our dead and rebuild our burned homes, brick by brick, so you knew the scale of your crimes and we wouldn't have to deal with the usual Serb fool, trying to convince me on a daily basis that I had sudden this urge to walk through the snowy mountains in the middle of winter, barefoot and without any food. This how shameless and foolish your society is.

Drazen

pre 10 godina

Where is Nikolic's apology on behalf of all the crimes committed against Croats, Bosniaks, Kosovars and all other people of the former Yugo???

Sweep your own doorstep, Nikolic, before looking for a broom from others.

Willi Pfaff

pre 10 godina

All the recent comments by the serb political elite concerning Russia, Ukraine, their own place in history, the war, relationship with the West, etc. show that with these people in charge, Serbia can and really should not be allowed to become a member of the EU. Their value systems and basic political believes simply aren't the same, and before they can be part of the West, they have to go though a very tough, long and painful process of facing reality, and have to realize what horrible things were committed in the name of Serbia all ocer the balkans. This is not going to happen soon, and there is no sign that any attempts are made in that direction. There is an unwillingness to face it's own bloody history, and for Serbia to become a member in the EU, they would have to completly rewrite their own history and reeducate their society, finally tell people the truth, and not cover everything up with dedicules mystic BS. Serbia has a long, long way to go to become an open society which can be a part of a United Europe.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Hope Russia and China bombs the hell out of England so you would know how that feels.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 12:34)

I hope they bomb Old Trafford first ;)

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Oh my god! Just a few days ago a drug kingping ( serb ) was arrested. Pink panther ( serbs ) etc. " organ trafficking " you have no evidence. Instead of those money that belgrad paid Dick marty, they could've send

Since when is Darko Saric a serb? He is montenegrin just like 90%of the pink Panthers.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Yeah, ask your Greek orthodox brothers about Vladimir's generosity :)
(icj1, 26 March 2014 04:16)

Of course the russians are not stupid enough to borrow to a country that is a part of the 4th Reich.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Daniel, you lost me here man. Serb guy, biggest drug trafficker in the Balkans gets caught, just 2 days ago and you still have no problem pulling crap from your behind. This guy was buddies with some of your high ranking politicians too.


Since when is Darko Saric a serb? If anyone is lost on a serb site its you and your fellow albos.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

And fyi the MONTENEGRIN Darko Saric moves cocaine and not heroin.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 23:25)

I thought Montenegrins are Serbs? Or are they only Serbs when it is convenient?
(Ian, UK, 27 March 2014 12:24)

He is only playing the same game you play. It's a shame that my response to you is not being posted today...I imagine it got lost in electron land somewhere. Anyway, read up on the NY Times about my 'conspiracy theories' about Clark, Albright, and the US diplomats/businesses tripping over themselves in Kosovo over who was going to 'invest' (get) in what.

justhetruth

pre 10 godina

I think this Guy and other guy Vulin will send very soon Serbia back a another 25 years ,or serbian nation will be stuck for a long time in the past and i dont know my Q is do you really ask yourself how is possible hungarians,polish,slovaks,checks,bulgarians,romuns are way a head of you guys when before the co-laps of the USSR they didn't know what is LEVI'S jEANS or nice running shoes as Nike,Adidas etc or real western life ... when in ex Yugoslavia you could get everything in those times and now what's happening??

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

He is only playing the same game you play. It's a shame that my response to you is not being posted today...I imagine it got lost in electron land somewhere. Anyway, read up on the NY Times about my 'conspiracy theories' about Clark, Albright, and the US diplomats/businesses tripping over themselves in Kosovo over who was going to 'invest' (get) in what.
(Aleks, 27 March 2014 22:01)

But I thought Kosovo was an economic hell hole? But now you're telling me that Western Politicians have invested there to make money?

Your arguments are contradictory and don't make sense, but then again, you are brainwashed and deluded.

J

pre 10 godina

Mirel Azir J et al. This indoctrination of falsehoods seems to have made you all take leave of your senses. You walk around in this haze of victimhood when it was you who caused the problems that then beset you. You can repeat your accusations against Serbdom till kingdom come but that will never render them true and deep down you know it,you know the truth my friends. Serbia IS owed an apology.
(Ummm., 24 March 2014 23:39)

Ahh, yes sure. I couldn't wait till our autonomy was stripped. Because there's nothing better than not having a voice in the political and decision making process. Why would I ever want a say when a Serb could do it for me. I couldn't wait for the day when I could no longer study in my language. I could not wait for the day when my parents were fired; for being Albanian. I could not wait to be beaten by Serb police when returning from houses that were turned into clandestine schools and were teaching me how to read. I could not wait to have for the day when the Serb army burned our houses and have my baby cousin killed. I could not wait to walk hungry and barefoot in the middle of the winter through snowy mountains. Especially since none of the Serb neighbors had to the same. I guess the Serbs were so nice they gave us a head start. People like yourself perpetuate these crimes on a daily basis. The only difference between people who think like you and those who committed all these crimes is that they took away the power for you to repeat these crimes.

icj1

pre 10 godina

People in Germany will NEVER buy stuff manufactured in Serbia.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Why not?
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They need to manufacture and sell to BRIC countries, and any others that they can maintain favourable trade ties with.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Why only BRIC countries?! If Serbia's goods are good enough, everybody will buy them.
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Borrow from Russia- Vladimir is generous to his friends.
(Marko, 25 March 2014 02:24)

Yeah, ask your Greek orthodox brothers about Vladimir's generosity :)

J

pre 10 godina

Fact is that albanians supply 90%of the heroin through europe, fact is that albanians organize 100% of the trafficking.

-- Daniel, you lost me here man. Serb guy, biggest drug trafficker in the Balkans gets caught, just 2 days ago and you still have no problem pulling crap from your behind. This guy was buddies with some of your high ranking politicians too.

The NSA is scouring the internet. Careful with your ethnic threats of annihilation. You don't want your IP address on any databases do you? It is not hard to determine who you are these days. Curb your emotions and enthusiasm a little bit. For your own good.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

And fyi the MONTENEGRIN Darko Saric moves cocaine and not heroin.
(Daniel, 26 March 2014 23:25)

I thought Montenegrins are Serbs? Or are they only Serbs when it is convenient?

Aleks

pre 10 godina

But I thought Kosovo was an economic hell hole? But now you're telling me that Western Politicians have invested there to make money?

Your arguments are contradictory and don't make sense, but then again, you are brainwashed and deluded.
(Ian, UK, 28 March 2014 10:07)

Are you this stupid? Or do you try extra hard? :) Let's see now...Iraq is an economic hell hole, as well as Afghanistan. Kosovo is too. I am not saying that to put Kosovo down, it is a reality that it is an economic hell hole. You know who is not in an economic hell hole? The foreign businesses who went there to invest and TAKE all the money with them. They have made billions in Iraq and Afghanistan yet those countries are poor. If you don't believe this is happening and going on, then you need to stop wasting your time posting here because you are way out of touch with the real world.

There are tons of US businesses that are investing in all types of countries all over the world in Asia, yet those countries are horrendously poor economically. That's because the money and profits don't belong or stay there. From your posts, I gather that you are fairly in tune with all of this. You are fairly sharp on how this all works. What you try to do is use stupidity in an attempt to divert attention from facts you cannot refute.