With the loss of Crimea, Ukraine has lost not only its naval bases in the territory, but also offshore gas fields in the Black Sea, reports said on Thursday.
You present the broader picture, but my post was more to do with personal reasons. I am a home-owner and the gas bill for the last two months was astronomical for me. I cannot imagine now if I am to pay 30% more if the Russians decide the hike the gas prices as a sort of contingency against potential European economic sanctions against Russia.
This is why I want Europe and especially Poland to invest more in their own gas excavation, production and distribution than to be heavily reliant on anybody. Thankfully, this has been a very mild winter and it is over anyway, but it is the future I am worried about.
“ to lessen Russia's dominance in the resource market and increase Europe's own self-sustenance.”
I have a remark. As you must know Russian gas appeared in Europe after 1973 when Arabs lost a war and arranged an energy crisis in Europe. So Russian gas and oil balanced the influence of the monarchies here. It’s not a secret that ever since Russia proved to be the most reliable supplier. And whatever you say our share in the energy balance is only increasing. Both in oil and natural gas. Right now I can see no way to improve the situation within the 5-6 years to come. It’s a too big term to put us conditions.
Europe is a colony. It’s a brontosaurus with a big ass and small jaws. Russia is in a better position for many reasons. First is that Russians are ready to suffer losses and longtime discomfort. We take the events as a nation-liberation war. So there must be some war losses. Meanwhile in the west is estimating the crisis as a bargain. So the inevitable backfire will disintegrate the visible Russophobe unity.
Poland will suffer most because you will have crazy armed people by your side. It will be your own Al Qaeda that was also brought up against Russia but later turned to kill their masters. Finally I like all the things Obama , Parubiy , Yarosh , Yatsenuk and other enemies of ours do. I am really thankful as they not only unmask their ugly faces but what is more important they make us stronger.
At least now we know the economic implications for Russia by annexing Crimea. One has to remember that they have the capital and the know-how to extract this gas, something the Ukrainians didn't have.
I always thought that Putin's "humanitarian" intervention argument in the name of the Russian population on Crimea was just a cover-up and rather superfluous. Russian authorities have never given two stuffs about the Russian people and have only ever lusted for power, dominance and influence (with the exception of Yeltsin the drunk).
Through this, Russia take charge of yet another natural resource that Europe is dependent on. What Europe needs to do is to invest more in the extraction, storage and supply of their own shale gas reserves in the Baltic, Balkans and North Sea and become more self-reliant and less on Russia. On top of that, all of Gasprom's possessions in EU territory and waters should be nationalized and if they wish to stay there, heaivly taxed, to lessen Russia's dominance in the resource market and increase Europe's own self-sustenance.
Of course, good trade relations must be maintained as Russia still supplies the majority of Europe's energy needs, but we cannot under any circumstance remain dependent on them, otherwise they will continue to secure such economic goldmines in regions of their former empire under the pretext of "protecting their people from the Western fascists, neo-nazis, Hitlerites, * enter Pravda propaganda buzzword here * etc."
wow you speak in the name of all of north america AND europe! How did you get this position? How are you going transport the gas by ships or maybe by helicopter lol? Hey good luck man maybe you can be the camptain of this operation!! Hey balboa go get a real job and stop being an internet troll
Haha! I doubt the Russians will stop here. So keep on counting the losses. And re-shape your plans... The Russians will move again and Europe will keep on planning and counting losses. And imposing ineffective sanctions. The Russians have the initiative and the Europeans are just following the Putin's lead. Are you curious where all these will lead? Just remember the golden Soviet era, it will make it easier for planners and losers.
Just don't waste your time...
Can you shape (let's say) the Europe's map of 2025? NO! Haha...
I just hope we'll still have a map...
You could always read that the USA invaded Iraq to seize the gas and oil resources for American companies and similar nonsense (which was not the case, the exploring rights were given to Russian companies amongst other).
And now the one of the first thing Russia does is seizing gas fields which belonged to Ukraine. Life can be ironic, doesn't it?
Really you're wasting your time posting on this site.You can make a lot of money on stage as a comedian.Albania will help Europe my a....Albania is Europe.s somalia.
How about a little tit for Tat scenario?
Here we go,
How about this one, it looks like the USA & CANADA will have to supply Europe's natural gas needs, at a even better price the Russians were charging! The EU should throw large scale sanctions on Gasprom, since they seem to be dictator-Putins chief financier! Yea, paralyze southstreams potential European venture! The EU will probably have to pay the fair market share for the existing infrastructure Gasprom paid for, however the EU would recoup its losses rather quickly! I'm confident that Albania would offer its existing ports & even build new ones, so that they would easily be able to handle the massive natural gas imports coming in from North America! With some investment, Albania's natural limestone mountains would provide excellent security for facility's storing both short term & long term natural gas reserves for the European continent! I'm sure, a spiderweb of pipeline can also be laid, to reach all parts of the unified European continent!
Really you're wasting your time posting on this site.You can make a lot of money on stage as a comedian.Albania will help Europe my a....Albania is Europe.s somalia.
wow you speak in the name of all of north america AND europe! How did you get this position? How are you going transport the gas by ships or maybe by helicopter lol? Hey good luck man maybe you can be the camptain of this operation!! Hey balboa go get a real job and stop being an internet troll
How about a little tit for Tat scenario?
Here we go,
How about this one, it looks like the USA & CANADA will have to supply Europe's natural gas needs, at a even better price the Russians were charging! The EU should throw large scale sanctions on Gasprom, since they seem to be dictator-Putins chief financier! Yea, paralyze southstreams potential European venture! The EU will probably have to pay the fair market share for the existing infrastructure Gasprom paid for, however the EU would recoup its losses rather quickly! I'm confident that Albania would offer its existing ports & even build new ones, so that they would easily be able to handle the massive natural gas imports coming in from North America! With some investment, Albania's natural limestone mountains would provide excellent security for facility's storing both short term & long term natural gas reserves for the European continent! I'm sure, a spiderweb of pipeline can also be laid, to reach all parts of the unified European continent!
Haha! I doubt the Russians will stop here. So keep on counting the losses. And re-shape your plans... The Russians will move again and Europe will keep on planning and counting losses. And imposing ineffective sanctions. The Russians have the initiative and the Europeans are just following the Putin's lead. Are you curious where all these will lead? Just remember the golden Soviet era, it will make it easier for planners and losers.
Just don't waste your time...
Can you shape (let's say) the Europe's map of 2025? NO! Haha...
I just hope we'll still have a map...
You could always read that the USA invaded Iraq to seize the gas and oil resources for American companies and similar nonsense (which was not the case, the exploring rights were given to Russian companies amongst other).
And now the one of the first thing Russia does is seizing gas fields which belonged to Ukraine. Life can be ironic, doesn't it?
“ to lessen Russia's dominance in the resource market and increase Europe's own self-sustenance.”
I have a remark. As you must know Russian gas appeared in Europe after 1973 when Arabs lost a war and arranged an energy crisis in Europe. So Russian gas and oil balanced the influence of the monarchies here. It’s not a secret that ever since Russia proved to be the most reliable supplier. And whatever you say our share in the energy balance is only increasing. Both in oil and natural gas. Right now I can see no way to improve the situation within the 5-6 years to come. It’s a too big term to put us conditions.
Europe is a colony. It’s a brontosaurus with a big ass and small jaws. Russia is in a better position for many reasons. First is that Russians are ready to suffer losses and longtime discomfort. We take the events as a nation-liberation war. So there must be some war losses. Meanwhile in the west is estimating the crisis as a bargain. So the inevitable backfire will disintegrate the visible Russophobe unity.
Poland will suffer most because you will have crazy armed people by your side. It will be your own Al Qaeda that was also brought up against Russia but later turned to kill their masters. Finally I like all the things Obama , Parubiy , Yarosh , Yatsenuk and other enemies of ours do. I am really thankful as they not only unmask their ugly faces but what is more important they make us stronger.
At least now we know the economic implications for Russia by annexing Crimea. One has to remember that they have the capital and the know-how to extract this gas, something the Ukrainians didn't have.
I always thought that Putin's "humanitarian" intervention argument in the name of the Russian population on Crimea was just a cover-up and rather superfluous. Russian authorities have never given two stuffs about the Russian people and have only ever lusted for power, dominance and influence (with the exception of Yeltsin the drunk).
Through this, Russia take charge of yet another natural resource that Europe is dependent on. What Europe needs to do is to invest more in the extraction, storage and supply of their own shale gas reserves in the Baltic, Balkans and North Sea and become more self-reliant and less on Russia. On top of that, all of Gasprom's possessions in EU territory and waters should be nationalized and if they wish to stay there, heaivly taxed, to lessen Russia's dominance in the resource market and increase Europe's own self-sustenance.
Of course, good trade relations must be maintained as Russia still supplies the majority of Europe's energy needs, but we cannot under any circumstance remain dependent on them, otherwise they will continue to secure such economic goldmines in regions of their former empire under the pretext of "protecting their people from the Western fascists, neo-nazis, Hitlerites, * enter Pravda propaganda buzzword here * etc."
You present the broader picture, but my post was more to do with personal reasons. I am a home-owner and the gas bill for the last two months was astronomical for me. I cannot imagine now if I am to pay 30% more if the Russians decide the hike the gas prices as a sort of contingency against potential European economic sanctions against Russia.
This is why I want Europe and especially Poland to invest more in their own gas excavation, production and distribution than to be heavily reliant on anybody. Thankfully, this has been a very mild winter and it is over anyway, but it is the future I am worried about.
How about a little tit for Tat scenario?
Here we go,
How about this one, it looks like the USA & CANADA will have to supply Europe's natural gas needs, at a even better price the Russians were charging! The EU should throw large scale sanctions on Gasprom, since they seem to be dictator-Putins chief financier! Yea, paralyze southstreams potential European venture! The EU will probably have to pay the fair market share for the existing infrastructure Gasprom paid for, however the EU would recoup its losses rather quickly! I'm confident that Albania would offer its existing ports & even build new ones, so that they would easily be able to handle the massive natural gas imports coming in from North America! With some investment, Albania's natural limestone mountains would provide excellent security for facility's storing both short term & long term natural gas reserves for the European continent! I'm sure, a spiderweb of pipeline can also be laid, to reach all parts of the unified European continent!
wow you speak in the name of all of north america AND europe! How did you get this position? How are you going transport the gas by ships or maybe by helicopter lol? Hey good luck man maybe you can be the camptain of this operation!! Hey balboa go get a real job and stop being an internet troll
Really you're wasting your time posting on this site.You can make a lot of money on stage as a comedian.Albania will help Europe my a....Albania is Europe.s somalia.
You could always read that the USA invaded Iraq to seize the gas and oil resources for American companies and similar nonsense (which was not the case, the exploring rights were given to Russian companies amongst other).
And now the one of the first thing Russia does is seizing gas fields which belonged to Ukraine. Life can be ironic, doesn't it?
Haha! I doubt the Russians will stop here. So keep on counting the losses. And re-shape your plans... The Russians will move again and Europe will keep on planning and counting losses. And imposing ineffective sanctions. The Russians have the initiative and the Europeans are just following the Putin's lead. Are you curious where all these will lead? Just remember the golden Soviet era, it will make it easier for planners and losers.
Just don't waste your time...
Can you shape (let's say) the Europe's map of 2025? NO! Haha...
I just hope we'll still have a map...
“ to lessen Russia's dominance in the resource market and increase Europe's own self-sustenance.”
I have a remark. As you must know Russian gas appeared in Europe after 1973 when Arabs lost a war and arranged an energy crisis in Europe. So Russian gas and oil balanced the influence of the monarchies here. It’s not a secret that ever since Russia proved to be the most reliable supplier. And whatever you say our share in the energy balance is only increasing. Both in oil and natural gas. Right now I can see no way to improve the situation within the 5-6 years to come. It’s a too big term to put us conditions.
Europe is a colony. It’s a brontosaurus with a big ass and small jaws. Russia is in a better position for many reasons. First is that Russians are ready to suffer losses and longtime discomfort. We take the events as a nation-liberation war. So there must be some war losses. Meanwhile in the west is estimating the crisis as a bargain. So the inevitable backfire will disintegrate the visible Russophobe unity.
Poland will suffer most because you will have crazy armed people by your side. It will be your own Al Qaeda that was also brought up against Russia but later turned to kill their masters. Finally I like all the things Obama , Parubiy , Yarosh , Yatsenuk and other enemies of ours do. I am really thankful as they not only unmask their ugly faces but what is more important they make us stronger.
At least now we know the economic implications for Russia by annexing Crimea. One has to remember that they have the capital and the know-how to extract this gas, something the Ukrainians didn't have.
I always thought that Putin's "humanitarian" intervention argument in the name of the Russian population on Crimea was just a cover-up and rather superfluous. Russian authorities have never given two stuffs about the Russian people and have only ever lusted for power, dominance and influence (with the exception of Yeltsin the drunk).
Through this, Russia take charge of yet another natural resource that Europe is dependent on. What Europe needs to do is to invest more in the extraction, storage and supply of their own shale gas reserves in the Baltic, Balkans and North Sea and become more self-reliant and less on Russia. On top of that, all of Gasprom's possessions in EU territory and waters should be nationalized and if they wish to stay there, heaivly taxed, to lessen Russia's dominance in the resource market and increase Europe's own self-sustenance.
Of course, good trade relations must be maintained as Russia still supplies the majority of Europe's energy needs, but we cannot under any circumstance remain dependent on them, otherwise they will continue to secure such economic goldmines in regions of their former empire under the pretext of "protecting their people from the Western fascists, neo-nazis, Hitlerites, * enter Pravda propaganda buzzword here * etc."
You present the broader picture, but my post was more to do with personal reasons. I am a home-owner and the gas bill for the last two months was astronomical for me. I cannot imagine now if I am to pay 30% more if the Russians decide the hike the gas prices as a sort of contingency against potential European economic sanctions against Russia.
This is why I want Europe and especially Poland to invest more in their own gas excavation, production and distribution than to be heavily reliant on anybody. Thankfully, this has been a very mild winter and it is over anyway, but it is the future I am worried about.
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