"Serbian municipalities should join Albania and Kosovo"
A leader of ethnic Albanians in the south has said that "if Russia can annex Crimea" southern Serbian municipalities should be given the right to join Kosovo.
This is simple, if all Balkan states where truly democratic and they allowed minorities to govern them selfs in truly autonomous way then none of this would need to happen. Simples
Aleksandar Vulin, Serbia's outgoing government's minister without portfolio in charge of Kosovo, reacted to this to say that the statement represented "a threat to the territorial integrity of Serbia."
Did he hit the Wright NERV .Mr.Vulin????
From azir the coward: "Serbia will either recognize and accept Eastern Kosova's Independence (Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc) or continue to live a LIE and inevitable destruct internaly to everyone relief and benefit."
I asked you in an earlier post why in your view a Greater Serbia, Greater Russia, etc. is illegal and wrong, but a Greater Albania consisting of southern Serbia, eastern Montenegro, northwestern Macedonia and parts of northern Greece is proper? All of these lands, according to you, belong to Albania and will be liberated and returned to the Shiptars one day. Exactly what planet do you live on?
It's still early in 2014, but I'm sure you've already won the award for the dumbest comments of the year. Nice job.
I think saying Britain is originally Roman sounds fair enough. The English kept the name and wouldn't deny this... if they had given their country another name then nothing to discuss.
We're still waiting to here how Kosovo is an Albanian name....that's right it ISN''T, it's Serbian.
Until you can admit that, let's throw the stick out again......
Next time try to think,if that's possible,and then try to make a logical comment without continuing to embarass yourself as usual.
(azir, 20 March 2014 18:29)
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I must've hit a nerve somehow.
GROW UP and TRY to act your age.
(azir, 21 March 2014 15:32)
This coming from one of the most immature Albanian trolls stupid enough to think Serbia's link to Kosovo is a lie because Dacic said current attempts at controlling the province are unrealistic. No one cares about your sh*tty history, or your stupid "Eastern Kosova" wet dreams. You think something is yours because you're dumb enough to believe Albanian bastardization of place names makes it yours? Get back in the kitchen and flip pizzas. It's the only thing you can possibly do.
oh dear, I like how you type job in capitals, what is it, you're trying to prove to me that you are employed? how sad are you?
as for this "...go fetch Nikolle... LOL :)" are you actually amusing yourself now? what grown man uses LOL, never mind an allegedly employed one? dear me, you're tragic. far from laughing at you, i have come to taking pity on you.
my point however has not been rebutted. your garbage logic as to why Kosovo (a geographical location) is Serbia is because Kosovo is a Serbian word. by that logic, Britain being a term the Romans coined for Britain, would be what? Italian? San Diego (the geographical area) would be what? Spanish? you really are stupid
@ the immature "commentator" you parrot typical Serb nonsense such as "Kosovo is Serbia" worn out dillusion.
Your own PM Dacic confessed to Serbia's creating this LIE and having brainwashed Serbs repeat until they somehow get convinced but he accepts as does Serbia that no longer wants to live a life full of LIES. Serbs having been lieing to themselves long enough that they started believing their own propaganda.
GROW UP and TRY to act your age.
Serbia will either recognize and accept Eastern Kosova's Independence (Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc) or continue to live a LIE and inevitable destruct internaly to everyone relief and benefit.
BTW Nikolle, I noticed your response to one of my questions only now.. apologies, you generate so many comments, it takes a while for me to catch up, having a JOB and all to worry about.
You make a point that Istanbul = Turkish work = originally Turkish.
That's fair enough actually, but from 1923 onwards ONLY. That's when this new name kicked in, it has no implications on what came before.
The Ataturk nationalists knew that Constantinople would always be considered Greek, so they:-
1. changed the name, then
2. proceeded to boot out all the Greeks.
The Albos have done a good job of point 2 wrt Serbs in Kosovo, but for unknown reasons, have not decided to give the territory a new name.
I don't get why other than you love the idea of being a Serb province.
One more interesting bit of trivia I just learned... Instanbul is a Turkish term, but based on a Greek phrase.. a little snippet from Wiki on this..
The city's name İstanbul is a shortened version with a Turkish character of the Medieval Greek phrase "εἰς τὴν Πόλιν" [is tim ˈbolin], meaning "to the city", since Constantinople was the biggest, wealthiest and most populated city of the times.
Anyway, just replying to your ultimately useless rebuttal as to why Kosovo is not Serbian... sorry still is.
Keep digging for another reason... and where is my stick?
i have told you before, you're really poor at put downs. try as hard as you might, the best you can muster it to call me unhumourous. if that is all your brain cells could come up with, then i feel sorry for you.
as for Kosovo je Srbije, yep, you personally are still in stage one of grief; denial. soon after you'll experience anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance.
"...Eventually, Serbia will be back in Kosmet and you will learn to live with it. This will happen the day after NATO collapses, trust me, it's just a matter of time. "
yep, keep flattering yourself some more. how long a matter of time do you think it'll be? i am aware that the heavenly people are a patient bunch (500 years is apparently nothing), but you won't live 500 years. it must be hard having to live with the knowledge that one of your greatest wishes wont come true. tough break eh? don't worry, you can always search for Kosmet on Google, its the closest you'll get to running it again
What's this guys problem ?during the Brussels negotiations it was brought up several times a swap of northern Kosovo for the Albanian populated areas of the preseva valley.both Ashton and thaci rejected a pretty fair comprimise.
Eventually, Serbia will be back in Kosmet and you will learn to live with it. This will happen the day after NATO collapses, trust me, it's just a matter of time.
Keyboard warriors like you aren't the reason Serbia isn't there now.
You keep typing away though, but let's go for something with a dash of witt and humor for once..
You can call Serbian land whatever you want Kosovo, Kosova, Presevo, Preseva. No one cares...
This is Serbian land and we will get it back within 4 years by any means Serbia chooses.
Serbs seem to be confused about Kosova. All the information you need to know about Kosova is in the below link. You can learn all about its rich cultural history and diversity. Serbia can only wish it was that way:)
You focus on Crimea and we will focus on our country called Kosova:)
try it you little Albanians ,come and get it lol you alvanians seem to forget what happens when there is no help for you, we seen it in Serbia we seen it in Slavic Macedonia and we seen the beatings you got in Greece....your nothing but big talkers and then get slapped and you cry to the world well there is no world to save you this time......
as for your other vacuous points, already replied to them, but for whatever reason, B92 did nit publish my comments. will give it another try:
this is your stupid logic; Kosovo=Serbian word therefore Kosovo, then geographical area is originally Serbian. using your own inane thinking: Istanbul=Turkish word, therefore Istanbul the city is originally Turkish.
if your comments are anything to go by, you're a lost cause
From azir the coward: "Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?"
Still trying to get others to fight your battles, eh azir? The truth is, NATO has tired of the Balkan mess. With Albanians running drugs out of Kosovo to the rest of Europe and their involvement with all kinds of other illicit activities, including killing innocent Serbs and driving them from their homes, the rest of Europe now sees what to expect from Albanians. Do you really think they are going to participate in your dream of creating a Greater Albania? They've already done that with Kosovo and it is a disaster.
And the biggest reason NATO will not intervene is because they do not want a military confrontation with Russia. It's one thing to drop bombs on Serbia, weakened by the wars in Croatia and Bosnia and economic sanctions. But quite another to go against a military power like Russia. No azir, the days of your Big Brother fighting your battles is over. What will you do now?
Putin has opened Pandora's Box with the Crimea Precedent!
Temporary Occupation!
Time is on our side!
As long as Ukraine never recognises Crimea!
Crimea is not in the UN!
Crimea je Ukraine!
LOL!
(Ian, UK, 20 March 2014 11:42)
Huh?
Crimea is not trying to be independent it joining (or rather re-joining) Russia.
Here's the thing. Propagandists of the Albanian cause will never ever except that Kosovo created a precedent. The US state department and Brussels say its not, therefore its not. End of, the master has spoken! The fact that a whole load of legal scholars, academics and observers say otherwise means nothing - they are all wrong - the master is right.
Its a view - but one requiring psychotic levels of denial and delusion. Whats next? the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese because its ideologically inconvenient to admit otherwise?
"If you say sorry for being so naughty these last few hundred years, we'll take you back :) "
didn't actually see this bit. sunshine, you wish you had us back, its not going to happen is? this is why you have your knickers in a twist and why you flatter yourself with declarations like: we're going to take Kosmet back. 6 years and counting. hurry up and take it back. you're all talk and no action
What better way than to even the score and kick Nato out of Kosovo and tear Bosnia in half. That would be nice... Greater Russia AND Greater Serbia!
(draza4life, 19 March 2014 19:15)
Draza,
It was acting on this kind of foolish talk that caused Serbia to be brought to her knees by NATO. How easy you forget the days when average Serbs were forced eat roadkill and drink out of toilet bowls. Just a reminder.
"Putin has opened Pandora's Box with the Crimea Precedent! "
(Ian, UK, 20 March 2014 11:42)
No, he used the box which was already opened with the Kosovo precedent as an excuse for his imperialistic ambitions to 'unify all territory where Russians are living'.
Similar ideas the 'great Fuehrer' had 1939 when annexing the parts of Czechoslovakia where Germans were living for the German Reich, or the great Serbian leader with his 'greater Serbia' project in the 1990th.
Groan, topic is clearly too complicated for you Nikolle.
Maybe given your mediocre English, we'll try it as a maths problem.
Using your own logic...
San Diego = Spanish word = originally Spanish (now American)
Kosovo = Serbian word = originally Serbian (now NATO occupied)
All clear?
The crazy thing about this is why do you still use that name? I thought Rugova wanted to go with "Dardania" or "Disneyland" or something to try and break the link to its Serbian origins.
Are you all still secretly in love with Serbia?
I think yes, that is why you guys are always here on this website.
If you say sorry for being so naughty these last few hundred years, we'll take you back :)
I predict a fast and completely wittless response from Nikolle in 3, 2, 1 ....
"Thankfully Albania is not a power like Russia and would not be able to wrest these Albanian-majority parts from within Serbia's borders. Perhaps this is only thing in Russia's favour, that no one can stop them in taking back Russian populated parts in their former empire. "
(Peter Sudyka, 19 March 2014 18:46)
Exactly that's the difference. If Albania would have been a power and acting like Russia, they would have invaded YU right after Milosevic took away autonomy for Kosovo and removing Albanian from the official languages.
Most Presheva Albanians have already moved to Kosova after the 2001 conflict due to lack of opportunities and oppression they have to endure in Presheva. Albanians in Presheva would be much better off as part of Kosova than now under Serbia.
Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?
(azir, 19 March 2014 22:24)
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So what?
What has Kosovo got to do with Albania and since when can a NATO country just start hostilites outside it's borders?
Albania is not important to anyone and NATO itself would shut them down before they had a chance to attack anyone. Albania attacking would be suicide.
@Navi
Will Albania be using the mig15's or the mig17's?
Do you actually believe Nato cares about any one nation?
Yes they are powerful.
But only against smaller, isolated, economically inferior countries.
Well, well, well, what'll they think of next? International law, Albanian style. I guess they're trying to find a new use (in 2014)for USA's Camp Bondsteel, plunked into Kosovo in 1999. How about that, Kosova is in NATO?
(John Bosnitch, 19 March 2014 16:53)
I would have thought an educated journalist in the know such as you would know that the "agreed" number of personnel allowed to return to Kosovo cannot perform actual police or military work they are limited to
1. Liason with the international civil and security presence(in other words language assistants)
2.Marking and clearing minefields
3.Maintaining a presence at patrimonial sites
4.Maintaining a presence at key border crossings
"How does that sound to you"
Sounds like the rantings of you run of the mill ultranationalist stuck in a day dream to me, nothing more.
Sooner or later NATO will get stuck in mud of a major conflict (or maybe even series of conflicts) in some remote part of the World, most probably in the Asian-Pacific region. When that happens, the time will come for many moral debts to be paid and many injustices to be corrected in Balkans. We Serbs know how to do that. It is not going to be the first time in our history.
There you have it, folks. Proof that the recognition of the Shqiptar regime in Kosovo/Metohija had nothing to do with "crimes against Humanity" or "genocide."
Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?
Try sending your MUP into Albania and let us know if they make it back out and what will remain of your 2/3 neighborhood of criminals in our Kosova.
Did you forget your own PM Dacic confessed that "Kosovo is Serbia" was nothing but LIES fabricated to make Serbs happy while factualy no Serbs would want to live there.
there's a very simple answer to this, it isn't going to happen. Russia can force its will upon other states without fear of retaliation because unlike say Serbia & Albania/Kosova, it is strong, it possesses nukes and the only pressure it'll face, will be by way of sanctions and diplomacy. Albanians & Serbs can talk big on B92 all they like, their fate hinges on the approval of others. The only way Presheva will unite with Albania/Kosova, is if the gov. of Serbia and Albania/Kosova agree to it. its good to have dreams (like sj, and Zoran have), but its not good to lie to yourself
(Nikolle, 19 March 2014 16:25)
Very realistic and true. People like this idiot need to be shunned anyway. You live in Serbia, either deal with it or move to Kosovo. Instead, they urge hatred and division. The majority of those regions are Serbs anyway, so a vote would fail to pass. If Albanians accepted they live in Serbia and integrated while maintaining their customs and traditions, like many in the US do, they would be far better off and get a whole lot more in return. Instead they feel they should have Albanian flags flown on gov't buildings, their own schools in their language only, and special rights. Not gonna happen, nor should it. Kosovo is still disputed and until that's resolved completely, it will be a mess. Southern Serbia is in no such dispute. Integrate and respect or get out.
@ John Bosnitch: Serbia can show they really care about "territorial integrity and wholeness " of Ukraine,land of Serb origin,by having all Serbs physicaly relocate there defending their real ancestors from Russian aggression.
Or is it that Serbs are hypcrites?
REMEMBER ANYTHING YOU DEMAND MUST ALSO APPLY TO OTHERS THAT QUALIFY.
You know, there are times we're in absolute agreement over the silliness of it all. I know it breaks tradition to side with the "other side" but dammit, let's break the predictable stereotype :)
I really hope Albanians try and do this.... i really do. At least Serbia would have an excuse to send in MUP and give Albania a gift thats LONG overdue. As a matter of fact... about 2 million gifts. Something tells me another conflict would to ignight... it would be a whole different ball game. Russia is on a roll, first Georgia, now Ukraine. I notice they keep mentioning how to West screwed over Yugoslavia when Russia was weak. What better way than to even the score and kick Nato out of Kosovo and tear Bosnia in half. That would be nice... Greater Russia AND Greater Serbia!
LOL the minute the Presevo Valley Albanians can get an outside superpower to military back their cause, then we can worry. Until then, pardon me if I just sit here and chuckle at the idiocy of it all.
You see, this is PRECISELY why you cannot divide countries according to ethnic lines in the modern-day world. Sure, it's idealistic, but we do not live in an ideal world. Where is it going to stop now? Should every single European nation look to their historical borders (where they still have people of their nationality living in them) and just take them back? What is stopping Hungary from taking back Hungarian populated parts of Romania, Serbia and Slovakia? Why should we Poles be content with losing parts of Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and Southern Lithuania, where many Poles still live? Why should the Germans not take back parts of France, Italy and Poland where large German minorities still live? Why should Serbia not take back RS?
Because all this can lead to war and Europe can never afford another war again. I don't know who this guy is, but indeed if Russia can use such logic, why can't the Albanians and anyone else in Europe?
Thankfully Albania is not a power like Russia and would not be able to wrest these Albanian-majority parts from within Serbia's borders. Perhaps this is only thing in Russia's favour, that no one can stop them in taking back Russian populated parts in their former empire.
I just hope it ends here and won't further spill over into Russian-majority regions of Ukraine, Moldova and the Baltics. This will surely lead to war and Europe has lost enough millions in the past to war.
really ? are you Albanians that stupid, there is 2 million people in Crimea and they want to join Russia and in the preshovo valley there is only 40,000 Albanians and your a majority in 1 city and you think you could ask to join Albania hehehe and Kosovo is till not independent....well then north Epirus to Greece and north Albania to Serbia and then RS to separate and krajina to separate and west Albania to Bulgaria....get the picture.....
(tom, 19 March 2014 16:23)
How many Serbs are in N.Kosovo that want to be part of Serbia? As for N.Epirus and N.Albania joining Greece and Serbia you Serbs and greeks are welcome to come any day and ask this imaginary greeks and serbs if they want to join.
"Serbian municipalities should join Albania and Kosovo"
Oh, the comedy of it all. Was he wearing a silly wig, a bright and shiny costume, really big shoes, a white face with a big red nose that squeaks and ride a tricycle around the local square when he said this? If so, he is indeed talented and wasted in politics.
really ? are you Albanians that stupid, there is 2 million people in Crimea and they want to join Russia and in the preshovo valley there is only 40,000 Albanians and your a majority in 1 city and you think you could ask to join Albania hehehe and Kosovo is till not independent....well then north Epirus to Greece and north Albania to Serbia and then RS to separate and krajina to separate and west Albania to Bulgaria....get the picture.....
there's a very simple answer to this, it isn't going to happen. Russia can force its will upon other states without fear of retaliation because unlike say Serbia & Albania/Kosova, it is strong, it possesses nukes and the only pressure it'll face, will be by way of sanctions and diplomacy. Albanians & Serbs can talk big on B92 all they like, their fate hinges on the approval of others. The only way Presheva will unite with Albania/Kosova, is if the gov. of Serbia and Albania/Kosova agree to it. its good to have dreams (like sj, and Zoran have), but its not good to lie to yourself
If he wants to do that, I think he missed his opportunity. This poor idiot does not realize that his "learned oppinion" is drawing attention to the Kosovo precident that his former western backers are trying to pretend does not exist.
He also thinks that the Pristian authorities would give control over to Tirana! Sure, Thaci can't wait for someone else to be in charge, I bet he would love to give control of his fiefdom to some stranger in Tirana and pay him taxes. I bet Albania would love to be blocked from the EU for taking on project they can't manage. It would also do wonders for regional stability.
Sounds like an interesting idea. Once the so-called independent state of Kosovo voluntarily cedes its claim (an illegal claim anyway) to all of North Kosovo (including Trepca mines), Pec, Gracanica, Prizren, Velika Hoca and all the Serb majority areas along the south border with Macedonia, it might be an interesting idea to discuss. Of course that would come with the "hundreds" of Serbian police/troops specified in Security Council resolution 1244 being stationed in and around all Serb areas in advance of any discussion... existing promises need to be fulfilled before any new discussions. We will also need historic Serb-majority areas in Albania to be ceded as well... How does that sound to you CIA-paid writers scrawling away over there in Pristina and Tirana?
there's a very simple answer to this, it isn't going to happen. Russia can force its will upon other states without fear of retaliation because unlike say Serbia & Albania/Kosova, it is strong, it possesses nukes and the only pressure it'll face, will be by way of sanctions and diplomacy. Albanians & Serbs can talk big on B92 all they like, their fate hinges on the approval of others. The only way Presheva will unite with Albania/Kosova, is if the gov. of Serbia and Albania/Kosova agree to it. its good to have dreams (like sj, and Zoran have), but its not good to lie to yourself
Sounds like an interesting idea. Once the so-called independent state of Kosovo voluntarily cedes its claim (an illegal claim anyway) to all of North Kosovo (including Trepca mines), Pec, Gracanica, Prizren, Velika Hoca and all the Serb majority areas along the south border with Macedonia, it might be an interesting idea to discuss. Of course that would come with the "hundreds" of Serbian police/troops specified in Security Council resolution 1244 being stationed in and around all Serb areas in advance of any discussion... existing promises need to be fulfilled before any new discussions. We will also need historic Serb-majority areas in Albania to be ceded as well... How does that sound to you CIA-paid writers scrawling away over there in Pristina and Tirana?
really ? are you Albanians that stupid, there is 2 million people in Crimea and they want to join Russia and in the preshovo valley there is only 40,000 Albanians and your a majority in 1 city and you think you could ask to join Albania hehehe and Kosovo is till not independent....well then north Epirus to Greece and north Albania to Serbia and then RS to separate and krajina to separate and west Albania to Bulgaria....get the picture.....
"Serbian municipalities should join Albania and Kosovo"
Oh, the comedy of it all. Was he wearing a silly wig, a bright and shiny costume, really big shoes, a white face with a big red nose that squeaks and ride a tricycle around the local square when he said this? If so, he is indeed talented and wasted in politics.
If he wants to do that, I think he missed his opportunity. This poor idiot does not realize that his "learned oppinion" is drawing attention to the Kosovo precident that his former western backers are trying to pretend does not exist.
He also thinks that the Pristian authorities would give control over to Tirana! Sure, Thaci can't wait for someone else to be in charge, I bet he would love to give control of his fiefdom to some stranger in Tirana and pay him taxes. I bet Albania would love to be blocked from the EU for taking on project they can't manage. It would also do wonders for regional stability.
You see, this is PRECISELY why you cannot divide countries according to ethnic lines in the modern-day world. Sure, it's idealistic, but we do not live in an ideal world. Where is it going to stop now? Should every single European nation look to their historical borders (where they still have people of their nationality living in them) and just take them back? What is stopping Hungary from taking back Hungarian populated parts of Romania, Serbia and Slovakia? Why should we Poles be content with losing parts of Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and Southern Lithuania, where many Poles still live? Why should the Germans not take back parts of France, Italy and Poland where large German minorities still live? Why should Serbia not take back RS?
Because all this can lead to war and Europe can never afford another war again. I don't know who this guy is, but indeed if Russia can use such logic, why can't the Albanians and anyone else in Europe?
Thankfully Albania is not a power like Russia and would not be able to wrest these Albanian-majority parts from within Serbia's borders. Perhaps this is only thing in Russia's favour, that no one can stop them in taking back Russian populated parts in their former empire.
I just hope it ends here and won't further spill over into Russian-majority regions of Ukraine, Moldova and the Baltics. This will surely lead to war and Europe has lost enough millions in the past to war.
I really hope Albanians try and do this.... i really do. At least Serbia would have an excuse to send in MUP and give Albania a gift thats LONG overdue. As a matter of fact... about 2 million gifts. Something tells me another conflict would to ignight... it would be a whole different ball game. Russia is on a roll, first Georgia, now Ukraine. I notice they keep mentioning how to West screwed over Yugoslavia when Russia was weak. What better way than to even the score and kick Nato out of Kosovo and tear Bosnia in half. That would be nice... Greater Russia AND Greater Serbia!
there's a very simple answer to this, it isn't going to happen. Russia can force its will upon other states without fear of retaliation because unlike say Serbia & Albania/Kosova, it is strong, it possesses nukes and the only pressure it'll face, will be by way of sanctions and diplomacy. Albanians & Serbs can talk big on B92 all they like, their fate hinges on the approval of others. The only way Presheva will unite with Albania/Kosova, is if the gov. of Serbia and Albania/Kosova agree to it. its good to have dreams (like sj, and Zoran have), but its not good to lie to yourself
(Nikolle, 19 March 2014 16:25)
Very realistic and true. People like this idiot need to be shunned anyway. You live in Serbia, either deal with it or move to Kosovo. Instead, they urge hatred and division. The majority of those regions are Serbs anyway, so a vote would fail to pass. If Albanians accepted they live in Serbia and integrated while maintaining their customs and traditions, like many in the US do, they would be far better off and get a whole lot more in return. Instead they feel they should have Albanian flags flown on gov't buildings, their own schools in their language only, and special rights. Not gonna happen, nor should it. Kosovo is still disputed and until that's resolved completely, it will be a mess. Southern Serbia is in no such dispute. Integrate and respect or get out.
really ? are you Albanians that stupid, there is 2 million people in Crimea and they want to join Russia and in the preshovo valley there is only 40,000 Albanians and your a majority in 1 city and you think you could ask to join Albania hehehe and Kosovo is till not independent....well then north Epirus to Greece and north Albania to Serbia and then RS to separate and krajina to separate and west Albania to Bulgaria....get the picture.....
(tom, 19 March 2014 16:23)
How many Serbs are in N.Kosovo that want to be part of Serbia? As for N.Epirus and N.Albania joining Greece and Serbia you Serbs and greeks are welcome to come any day and ask this imaginary greeks and serbs if they want to join.
LOL the minute the Presevo Valley Albanians can get an outside superpower to military back their cause, then we can worry. Until then, pardon me if I just sit here and chuckle at the idiocy of it all.
Most Presheva Albanians have already moved to Kosova after the 2001 conflict due to lack of opportunities and oppression they have to endure in Presheva. Albanians in Presheva would be much better off as part of Kosova than now under Serbia.
Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?
(azir, 19 March 2014 22:24)
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So what?
What has Kosovo got to do with Albania and since when can a NATO country just start hostilites outside it's borders?
Albania is not important to anyone and NATO itself would shut them down before they had a chance to attack anyone. Albania attacking would be suicide.
Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?
Try sending your MUP into Albania and let us know if they make it back out and what will remain of your 2/3 neighborhood of criminals in our Kosova.
Did you forget your own PM Dacic confessed that "Kosovo is Serbia" was nothing but LIES fabricated to make Serbs happy while factualy no Serbs would want to live there.
oh dear, I like how you type job in capitals, what is it, you're trying to prove to me that you are employed? how sad are you?
as for this "...go fetch Nikolle... LOL :)" are you actually amusing yourself now? what grown man uses LOL, never mind an allegedly employed one? dear me, you're tragic. far from laughing at you, i have come to taking pity on you.
my point however has not been rebutted. your garbage logic as to why Kosovo (a geographical location) is Serbia is because Kosovo is a Serbian word. by that logic, Britain being a term the Romans coined for Britain, would be what? Italian? San Diego (the geographical area) would be what? Spanish? you really are stupid
There you have it, folks. Proof that the recognition of the Shqiptar regime in Kosovo/Metohija had nothing to do with "crimes against Humanity" or "genocide."
try it you little Albanians ,come and get it lol you alvanians seem to forget what happens when there is no help for you, we seen it in Serbia we seen it in Slavic Macedonia and we seen the beatings you got in Greece....your nothing but big talkers and then get slapped and you cry to the world well there is no world to save you this time......
(John Bosnitch, 19 March 2014 16:53)
I would have thought an educated journalist in the know such as you would know that the "agreed" number of personnel allowed to return to Kosovo cannot perform actual police or military work they are limited to
1. Liason with the international civil and security presence(in other words language assistants)
2.Marking and clearing minefields
3.Maintaining a presence at patrimonial sites
4.Maintaining a presence at key border crossings
"How does that sound to you"
Sounds like the rantings of you run of the mill ultranationalist stuck in a day dream to me, nothing more.
What better way than to even the score and kick Nato out of Kosovo and tear Bosnia in half. That would be nice... Greater Russia AND Greater Serbia!
(draza4life, 19 March 2014 19:15)
Draza,
It was acting on this kind of foolish talk that caused Serbia to be brought to her knees by NATO. How easy you forget the days when average Serbs were forced eat roadkill and drink out of toilet bowls. Just a reminder.
"If you say sorry for being so naughty these last few hundred years, we'll take you back :) "
didn't actually see this bit. sunshine, you wish you had us back, its not going to happen is? this is why you have your knickers in a twist and why you flatter yourself with declarations like: we're going to take Kosmet back. 6 years and counting. hurry up and take it back. you're all talk and no action
From azir the coward: "Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?"
Still trying to get others to fight your battles, eh azir? The truth is, NATO has tired of the Balkan mess. With Albanians running drugs out of Kosovo to the rest of Europe and their involvement with all kinds of other illicit activities, including killing innocent Serbs and driving them from their homes, the rest of Europe now sees what to expect from Albanians. Do you really think they are going to participate in your dream of creating a Greater Albania? They've already done that with Kosovo and it is a disaster.
And the biggest reason NATO will not intervene is because they do not want a military confrontation with Russia. It's one thing to drop bombs on Serbia, weakened by the wars in Croatia and Bosnia and economic sanctions. But quite another to go against a military power like Russia. No azir, the days of your Big Brother fighting your battles is over. What will you do now?
as for your other vacuous points, already replied to them, but for whatever reason, B92 did nit publish my comments. will give it another try:
this is your stupid logic; Kosovo=Serbian word therefore Kosovo, then geographical area is originally Serbian. using your own inane thinking: Istanbul=Turkish word, therefore Istanbul the city is originally Turkish.
if your comments are anything to go by, you're a lost cause
You know, there are times we're in absolute agreement over the silliness of it all. I know it breaks tradition to side with the "other side" but dammit, let's break the predictable stereotype :)
@ John Bosnitch: Serbia can show they really care about "territorial integrity and wholeness " of Ukraine,land of Serb origin,by having all Serbs physicaly relocate there defending their real ancestors from Russian aggression.
Or is it that Serbs are hypcrites?
REMEMBER ANYTHING YOU DEMAND MUST ALSO APPLY TO OTHERS THAT QUALIFY.
Sooner or later NATO will get stuck in mud of a major conflict (or maybe even series of conflicts) in some remote part of the World, most probably in the Asian-Pacific region. When that happens, the time will come for many moral debts to be paid and many injustices to be corrected in Balkans. We Serbs know how to do that. It is not going to be the first time in our history.
"Thankfully Albania is not a power like Russia and would not be able to wrest these Albanian-majority parts from within Serbia's borders. Perhaps this is only thing in Russia's favour, that no one can stop them in taking back Russian populated parts in their former empire. "
(Peter Sudyka, 19 March 2014 18:46)
Exactly that's the difference. If Albania would have been a power and acting like Russia, they would have invaded YU right after Milosevic took away autonomy for Kosovo and removing Albanian from the official languages.
i have told you before, you're really poor at put downs. try as hard as you might, the best you can muster it to call me unhumourous. if that is all your brain cells could come up with, then i feel sorry for you.
as for Kosovo je Srbije, yep, you personally are still in stage one of grief; denial. soon after you'll experience anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance.
@Navi
Will Albania be using the mig15's or the mig17's?
Do you actually believe Nato cares about any one nation?
Yes they are powerful.
But only against smaller, isolated, economically inferior countries.
Groan, topic is clearly too complicated for you Nikolle.
Maybe given your mediocre English, we'll try it as a maths problem.
Using your own logic...
San Diego = Spanish word = originally Spanish (now American)
Kosovo = Serbian word = originally Serbian (now NATO occupied)
All clear?
The crazy thing about this is why do you still use that name? I thought Rugova wanted to go with "Dardania" or "Disneyland" or something to try and break the link to its Serbian origins.
Are you all still secretly in love with Serbia?
I think yes, that is why you guys are always here on this website.
If you say sorry for being so naughty these last few hundred years, we'll take you back :)
I predict a fast and completely wittless response from Nikolle in 3, 2, 1 ....
"...Eventually, Serbia will be back in Kosmet and you will learn to live with it. This will happen the day after NATO collapses, trust me, it's just a matter of time. "
yep, keep flattering yourself some more. how long a matter of time do you think it'll be? i am aware that the heavenly people are a patient bunch (500 years is apparently nothing), but you won't live 500 years. it must be hard having to live with the knowledge that one of your greatest wishes wont come true. tough break eh? don't worry, you can always search for Kosmet on Google, its the closest you'll get to running it again
"Putin has opened Pandora's Box with the Crimea Precedent! "
(Ian, UK, 20 March 2014 11:42)
No, he used the box which was already opened with the Kosovo precedent as an excuse for his imperialistic ambitions to 'unify all territory where Russians are living'.
Similar ideas the 'great Fuehrer' had 1939 when annexing the parts of Czechoslovakia where Germans were living for the German Reich, or the great Serbian leader with his 'greater Serbia' project in the 1990th.
Putin has opened Pandora's Box with the Crimea Precedent!
Temporary Occupation!
Time is on our side!
As long as Ukraine never recognises Crimea!
Crimea is not in the UN!
Crimea je Ukraine!
LOL!
(Ian, UK, 20 March 2014 11:42)
Huh?
Crimea is not trying to be independent it joining (or rather re-joining) Russia.
Here's the thing. Propagandists of the Albanian cause will never ever except that Kosovo created a precedent. The US state department and Brussels say its not, therefore its not. End of, the master has spoken! The fact that a whole load of legal scholars, academics and observers say otherwise means nothing - they are all wrong - the master is right.
Its a view - but one requiring psychotic levels of denial and delusion. Whats next? the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese because its ideologically inconvenient to admit otherwise?
Serbs seem to be confused about Kosova. All the information you need to know about Kosova is in the below link. You can learn all about its rich cultural history and diversity. Serbia can only wish it was that way:)
You focus on Crimea and we will focus on our country called Kosova:)
You can call Serbian land whatever you want Kosovo, Kosova, Presevo, Preseva. No one cares...
This is Serbian land and we will get it back within 4 years by any means Serbia chooses.
GROW UP and TRY to act your age.
(azir, 21 March 2014 15:32)
This coming from one of the most immature Albanian trolls stupid enough to think Serbia's link to Kosovo is a lie because Dacic said current attempts at controlling the province are unrealistic. No one cares about your sh*tty history, or your stupid "Eastern Kosova" wet dreams. You think something is yours because you're dumb enough to believe Albanian bastardization of place names makes it yours? Get back in the kitchen and flip pizzas. It's the only thing you can possibly do.
Well, well, well, what'll they think of next? International law, Albanian style. I guess they're trying to find a new use (in 2014)for USA's Camp Bondsteel, plunked into Kosovo in 1999. How about that, Kosova is in NATO?
Eventually, Serbia will be back in Kosmet and you will learn to live with it. This will happen the day after NATO collapses, trust me, it's just a matter of time.
Keyboard warriors like you aren't the reason Serbia isn't there now.
You keep typing away though, but let's go for something with a dash of witt and humor for once..
BTW Nikolle, I noticed your response to one of my questions only now.. apologies, you generate so many comments, it takes a while for me to catch up, having a JOB and all to worry about.
You make a point that Istanbul = Turkish work = originally Turkish.
That's fair enough actually, but from 1923 onwards ONLY. That's when this new name kicked in, it has no implications on what came before.
The Ataturk nationalists knew that Constantinople would always be considered Greek, so they:-
1. changed the name, then
2. proceeded to boot out all the Greeks.
The Albos have done a good job of point 2 wrt Serbs in Kosovo, but for unknown reasons, have not decided to give the territory a new name.
I don't get why other than you love the idea of being a Serb province.
One more interesting bit of trivia I just learned... Instanbul is a Turkish term, but based on a Greek phrase.. a little snippet from Wiki on this..
The city's name İstanbul is a shortened version with a Turkish character of the Medieval Greek phrase "εἰς τὴν Πόλιν" [is tim ˈbolin], meaning "to the city", since Constantinople was the biggest, wealthiest and most populated city of the times.
Anyway, just replying to your ultimately useless rebuttal as to why Kosovo is not Serbian... sorry still is.
Keep digging for another reason... and where is my stick?
@ the immature "commentator" you parrot typical Serb nonsense such as "Kosovo is Serbia" worn out dillusion.
Your own PM Dacic confessed to Serbia's creating this LIE and having brainwashed Serbs repeat until they somehow get convinced but he accepts as does Serbia that no longer wants to live a life full of LIES. Serbs having been lieing to themselves long enough that they started believing their own propaganda.
GROW UP and TRY to act your age.
Serbia will either recognize and accept Eastern Kosova's Independence (Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc) or continue to live a LIE and inevitable destruct internaly to everyone relief and benefit.
What's this guys problem ?during the Brussels negotiations it was brought up several times a swap of northern Kosovo for the Albanian populated areas of the preseva valley.both Ashton and thaci rejected a pretty fair comprimise.
Next time try to think,if that's possible,and then try to make a logical comment without continuing to embarass yourself as usual.
(azir, 20 March 2014 18:29)
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I must've hit a nerve somehow.
I think saying Britain is originally Roman sounds fair enough. The English kept the name and wouldn't deny this... if they had given their country another name then nothing to discuss.
We're still waiting to here how Kosovo is an Albanian name....that's right it ISN''T, it's Serbian.
Until you can admit that, let's throw the stick out again......
From azir the coward: "Serbia will either recognize and accept Eastern Kosova's Independence (Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc) or continue to live a LIE and inevitable destruct internaly to everyone relief and benefit."
I asked you in an earlier post why in your view a Greater Serbia, Greater Russia, etc. is illegal and wrong, but a Greater Albania consisting of southern Serbia, eastern Montenegro, northwestern Macedonia and parts of northern Greece is proper? All of these lands, according to you, belong to Albania and will be liberated and returned to the Shiptars one day. Exactly what planet do you live on?
It's still early in 2014, but I'm sure you've already won the award for the dumbest comments of the year. Nice job.
Aleksandar Vulin, Serbia's outgoing government's minister without portfolio in charge of Kosovo, reacted to this to say that the statement represented "a threat to the territorial integrity of Serbia."
Did he hit the Wright NERV .Mr.Vulin????
This is simple, if all Balkan states where truly democratic and they allowed minorities to govern them selfs in truly autonomous way then none of this would need to happen. Simples
really ? are you Albanians that stupid, there is 2 million people in Crimea and they want to join Russia and in the preshovo valley there is only 40,000 Albanians and your a majority in 1 city and you think you could ask to join Albania hehehe and Kosovo is till not independent....well then north Epirus to Greece and north Albania to Serbia and then RS to separate and krajina to separate and west Albania to Bulgaria....get the picture.....
"Serbian municipalities should join Albania and Kosovo"
Oh, the comedy of it all. Was he wearing a silly wig, a bright and shiny costume, really big shoes, a white face with a big red nose that squeaks and ride a tricycle around the local square when he said this? If so, he is indeed talented and wasted in politics.
Sounds like an interesting idea. Once the so-called independent state of Kosovo voluntarily cedes its claim (an illegal claim anyway) to all of North Kosovo (including Trepca mines), Pec, Gracanica, Prizren, Velika Hoca and all the Serb majority areas along the south border with Macedonia, it might be an interesting idea to discuss. Of course that would come with the "hundreds" of Serbian police/troops specified in Security Council resolution 1244 being stationed in and around all Serb areas in advance of any discussion... existing promises need to be fulfilled before any new discussions. We will also need historic Serb-majority areas in Albania to be ceded as well... How does that sound to you CIA-paid writers scrawling away over there in Pristina and Tirana?
I really hope Albanians try and do this.... i really do. At least Serbia would have an excuse to send in MUP and give Albania a gift thats LONG overdue. As a matter of fact... about 2 million gifts. Something tells me another conflict would to ignight... it would be a whole different ball game. Russia is on a roll, first Georgia, now Ukraine. I notice they keep mentioning how to West screwed over Yugoslavia when Russia was weak. What better way than to even the score and kick Nato out of Kosovo and tear Bosnia in half. That would be nice... Greater Russia AND Greater Serbia!
there's a very simple answer to this, it isn't going to happen. Russia can force its will upon other states without fear of retaliation because unlike say Serbia & Albania/Kosova, it is strong, it possesses nukes and the only pressure it'll face, will be by way of sanctions and diplomacy. Albanians & Serbs can talk big on B92 all they like, their fate hinges on the approval of others. The only way Presheva will unite with Albania/Kosova, is if the gov. of Serbia and Albania/Kosova agree to it. its good to have dreams (like sj, and Zoran have), but its not good to lie to yourself
(Nikolle, 19 March 2014 16:25)
Very realistic and true. People like this idiot need to be shunned anyway. You live in Serbia, either deal with it or move to Kosovo. Instead, they urge hatred and division. The majority of those regions are Serbs anyway, so a vote would fail to pass. If Albanians accepted they live in Serbia and integrated while maintaining their customs and traditions, like many in the US do, they would be far better off and get a whole lot more in return. Instead they feel they should have Albanian flags flown on gov't buildings, their own schools in their language only, and special rights. Not gonna happen, nor should it. Kosovo is still disputed and until that's resolved completely, it will be a mess. Southern Serbia is in no such dispute. Integrate and respect or get out.
really ? are you Albanians that stupid, there is 2 million people in Crimea and they want to join Russia and in the preshovo valley there is only 40,000 Albanians and your a majority in 1 city and you think you could ask to join Albania hehehe and Kosovo is till not independent....well then north Epirus to Greece and north Albania to Serbia and then RS to separate and krajina to separate and west Albania to Bulgaria....get the picture.....
(tom, 19 March 2014 16:23)
How many Serbs are in N.Kosovo that want to be part of Serbia? As for N.Epirus and N.Albania joining Greece and Serbia you Serbs and greeks are welcome to come any day and ask this imaginary greeks and serbs if they want to join.
Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?
Try sending your MUP into Albania and let us know if they make it back out and what will remain of your 2/3 neighborhood of criminals in our Kosova.
Did you forget your own PM Dacic confessed that "Kosovo is Serbia" was nothing but LIES fabricated to make Serbs happy while factualy no Serbs would want to live there.
@ John Bosnitch: Serbia can show they really care about "territorial integrity and wholeness " of Ukraine,land of Serb origin,by having all Serbs physicaly relocate there defending their real ancestors from Russian aggression.
Or is it that Serbs are hypcrites?
REMEMBER ANYTHING YOU DEMAND MUST ALSO APPLY TO OTHERS THAT QUALIFY.
Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?
(azir, 19 March 2014 22:24)
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So what?
What has Kosovo got to do with Albania and since when can a NATO country just start hostilites outside it's borders?
Albania is not important to anyone and NATO itself would shut them down before they had a chance to attack anyone. Albania attacking would be suicide.
If he wants to do that, I think he missed his opportunity. This poor idiot does not realize that his "learned oppinion" is drawing attention to the Kosovo precident that his former western backers are trying to pretend does not exist.
He also thinks that the Pristian authorities would give control over to Tirana! Sure, Thaci can't wait for someone else to be in charge, I bet he would love to give control of his fiefdom to some stranger in Tirana and pay him taxes. I bet Albania would love to be blocked from the EU for taking on project they can't manage. It would also do wonders for regional stability.
From azir the coward: "Drake you do realize Albania is a NATO member don't you?"
Still trying to get others to fight your battles, eh azir? The truth is, NATO has tired of the Balkan mess. With Albanians running drugs out of Kosovo to the rest of Europe and their involvement with all kinds of other illicit activities, including killing innocent Serbs and driving them from their homes, the rest of Europe now sees what to expect from Albanians. Do you really think they are going to participate in your dream of creating a Greater Albania? They've already done that with Kosovo and it is a disaster.
And the biggest reason NATO will not intervene is because they do not want a military confrontation with Russia. It's one thing to drop bombs on Serbia, weakened by the wars in Croatia and Bosnia and economic sanctions. But quite another to go against a military power like Russia. No azir, the days of your Big Brother fighting your battles is over. What will you do now?
there's a very simple answer to this, it isn't going to happen. Russia can force its will upon other states without fear of retaliation because unlike say Serbia & Albania/Kosova, it is strong, it possesses nukes and the only pressure it'll face, will be by way of sanctions and diplomacy. Albanians & Serbs can talk big on B92 all they like, their fate hinges on the approval of others. The only way Presheva will unite with Albania/Kosova, is if the gov. of Serbia and Albania/Kosova agree to it. its good to have dreams (like sj, and Zoran have), but its not good to lie to yourself
Groan, topic is clearly too complicated for you Nikolle.
Maybe given your mediocre English, we'll try it as a maths problem.
Using your own logic...
San Diego = Spanish word = originally Spanish (now American)
Kosovo = Serbian word = originally Serbian (now NATO occupied)
All clear?
The crazy thing about this is why do you still use that name? I thought Rugova wanted to go with "Dardania" or "Disneyland" or something to try and break the link to its Serbian origins.
Are you all still secretly in love with Serbia?
I think yes, that is why you guys are always here on this website.
If you say sorry for being so naughty these last few hundred years, we'll take you back :)
I predict a fast and completely wittless response from Nikolle in 3, 2, 1 ....
GROW UP and TRY to act your age.
(azir, 21 March 2014 15:32)
This coming from one of the most immature Albanian trolls stupid enough to think Serbia's link to Kosovo is a lie because Dacic said current attempts at controlling the province are unrealistic. No one cares about your sh*tty history, or your stupid "Eastern Kosova" wet dreams. You think something is yours because you're dumb enough to believe Albanian bastardization of place names makes it yours? Get back in the kitchen and flip pizzas. It's the only thing you can possibly do.
You know, there are times we're in absolute agreement over the silliness of it all. I know it breaks tradition to side with the "other side" but dammit, let's break the predictable stereotype :)
LOL the minute the Presevo Valley Albanians can get an outside superpower to military back their cause, then we can worry. Until then, pardon me if I just sit here and chuckle at the idiocy of it all.
What better way than to even the score and kick Nato out of Kosovo and tear Bosnia in half. That would be nice... Greater Russia AND Greater Serbia!
(draza4life, 19 March 2014 19:15)
Draza,
It was acting on this kind of foolish talk that caused Serbia to be brought to her knees by NATO. How easy you forget the days when average Serbs were forced eat roadkill and drink out of toilet bowls. Just a reminder.
Sooner or later NATO will get stuck in mud of a major conflict (or maybe even series of conflicts) in some remote part of the World, most probably in the Asian-Pacific region. When that happens, the time will come for many moral debts to be paid and many injustices to be corrected in Balkans. We Serbs know how to do that. It is not going to be the first time in our history.
try it you little Albanians ,come and get it lol you alvanians seem to forget what happens when there is no help for you, we seen it in Serbia we seen it in Slavic Macedonia and we seen the beatings you got in Greece....your nothing but big talkers and then get slapped and you cry to the world well there is no world to save you this time......
You can call Serbian land whatever you want Kosovo, Kosova, Presevo, Preseva. No one cares...
This is Serbian land and we will get it back within 4 years by any means Serbia chooses.
Most Presheva Albanians have already moved to Kosova after the 2001 conflict due to lack of opportunities and oppression they have to endure in Presheva. Albanians in Presheva would be much better off as part of Kosova than now under Serbia.
Putin has opened Pandora's Box with the Crimea Precedent!
Temporary Occupation!
Time is on our side!
As long as Ukraine never recognises Crimea!
Crimea is not in the UN!
Crimea je Ukraine!
LOL!
(Ian, UK, 20 March 2014 11:42)
Huh?
Crimea is not trying to be independent it joining (or rather re-joining) Russia.
Here's the thing. Propagandists of the Albanian cause will never ever except that Kosovo created a precedent. The US state department and Brussels say its not, therefore its not. End of, the master has spoken! The fact that a whole load of legal scholars, academics and observers say otherwise means nothing - they are all wrong - the master is right.
Its a view - but one requiring psychotic levels of denial and delusion. Whats next? the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese because its ideologically inconvenient to admit otherwise?
There you have it, folks. Proof that the recognition of the Shqiptar regime in Kosovo/Metohija had nothing to do with "crimes against Humanity" or "genocide."
Eventually, Serbia will be back in Kosmet and you will learn to live with it. This will happen the day after NATO collapses, trust me, it's just a matter of time.
Keyboard warriors like you aren't the reason Serbia isn't there now.
You keep typing away though, but let's go for something with a dash of witt and humor for once..
Well, well, well, what'll they think of next? International law, Albanian style. I guess they're trying to find a new use (in 2014)for USA's Camp Bondsteel, plunked into Kosovo in 1999. How about that, Kosova is in NATO?
"If you say sorry for being so naughty these last few hundred years, we'll take you back :) "
didn't actually see this bit. sunshine, you wish you had us back, its not going to happen is? this is why you have your knickers in a twist and why you flatter yourself with declarations like: we're going to take Kosmet back. 6 years and counting. hurry up and take it back. you're all talk and no action
"Putin has opened Pandora's Box with the Crimea Precedent! "
(Ian, UK, 20 March 2014 11:42)
No, he used the box which was already opened with the Kosovo precedent as an excuse for his imperialistic ambitions to 'unify all territory where Russians are living'.
Similar ideas the 'great Fuehrer' had 1939 when annexing the parts of Czechoslovakia where Germans were living for the German Reich, or the great Serbian leader with his 'greater Serbia' project in the 1990th.
i have told you before, you're really poor at put downs. try as hard as you might, the best you can muster it to call me unhumourous. if that is all your brain cells could come up with, then i feel sorry for you.
as for Kosovo je Srbije, yep, you personally are still in stage one of grief; denial. soon after you'll experience anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance.
You see, this is PRECISELY why you cannot divide countries according to ethnic lines in the modern-day world. Sure, it's idealistic, but we do not live in an ideal world. Where is it going to stop now? Should every single European nation look to their historical borders (where they still have people of their nationality living in them) and just take them back? What is stopping Hungary from taking back Hungarian populated parts of Romania, Serbia and Slovakia? Why should we Poles be content with losing parts of Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and Southern Lithuania, where many Poles still live? Why should the Germans not take back parts of France, Italy and Poland where large German minorities still live? Why should Serbia not take back RS?
Because all this can lead to war and Europe can never afford another war again. I don't know who this guy is, but indeed if Russia can use such logic, why can't the Albanians and anyone else in Europe?
Thankfully Albania is not a power like Russia and would not be able to wrest these Albanian-majority parts from within Serbia's borders. Perhaps this is only thing in Russia's favour, that no one can stop them in taking back Russian populated parts in their former empire.
I just hope it ends here and won't further spill over into Russian-majority regions of Ukraine, Moldova and the Baltics. This will surely lead to war and Europe has lost enough millions in the past to war.
@Navi
Will Albania be using the mig15's or the mig17's?
Do you actually believe Nato cares about any one nation?
Yes they are powerful.
But only against smaller, isolated, economically inferior countries.
as for your other vacuous points, already replied to them, but for whatever reason, B92 did nit publish my comments. will give it another try:
this is your stupid logic; Kosovo=Serbian word therefore Kosovo, then geographical area is originally Serbian. using your own inane thinking: Istanbul=Turkish word, therefore Istanbul the city is originally Turkish.
if your comments are anything to go by, you're a lost cause
Serbs seem to be confused about Kosova. All the information you need to know about Kosova is in the below link. You can learn all about its rich cultural history and diversity. Serbia can only wish it was that way:)
You focus on Crimea and we will focus on our country called Kosova:)
"...Eventually, Serbia will be back in Kosmet and you will learn to live with it. This will happen the day after NATO collapses, trust me, it's just a matter of time. "
yep, keep flattering yourself some more. how long a matter of time do you think it'll be? i am aware that the heavenly people are a patient bunch (500 years is apparently nothing), but you won't live 500 years. it must be hard having to live with the knowledge that one of your greatest wishes wont come true. tough break eh? don't worry, you can always search for Kosmet on Google, its the closest you'll get to running it again
Next time try to think,if that's possible,and then try to make a logical comment without continuing to embarass yourself as usual.
(azir, 20 March 2014 18:29)
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I must've hit a nerve somehow.
(John Bosnitch, 19 March 2014 16:53)
I would have thought an educated journalist in the know such as you would know that the "agreed" number of personnel allowed to return to Kosovo cannot perform actual police or military work they are limited to
1. Liason with the international civil and security presence(in other words language assistants)
2.Marking and clearing minefields
3.Maintaining a presence at patrimonial sites
4.Maintaining a presence at key border crossings
"How does that sound to you"
Sounds like the rantings of you run of the mill ultranationalist stuck in a day dream to me, nothing more.
What's this guys problem ?during the Brussels negotiations it was brought up several times a swap of northern Kosovo for the Albanian populated areas of the preseva valley.both Ashton and thaci rejected a pretty fair comprimise.
@ the immature "commentator" you parrot typical Serb nonsense such as "Kosovo is Serbia" worn out dillusion.
Your own PM Dacic confessed to Serbia's creating this LIE and having brainwashed Serbs repeat until they somehow get convinced but he accepts as does Serbia that no longer wants to live a life full of LIES. Serbs having been lieing to themselves long enough that they started believing their own propaganda.
GROW UP and TRY to act your age.
Serbia will either recognize and accept Eastern Kosova's Independence (Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc) or continue to live a LIE and inevitable destruct internaly to everyone relief and benefit.
oh dear, I like how you type job in capitals, what is it, you're trying to prove to me that you are employed? how sad are you?
as for this "...go fetch Nikolle... LOL :)" are you actually amusing yourself now? what grown man uses LOL, never mind an allegedly employed one? dear me, you're tragic. far from laughing at you, i have come to taking pity on you.
my point however has not been rebutted. your garbage logic as to why Kosovo (a geographical location) is Serbia is because Kosovo is a Serbian word. by that logic, Britain being a term the Romans coined for Britain, would be what? Italian? San Diego (the geographical area) would be what? Spanish? you really are stupid
I think saying Britain is originally Roman sounds fair enough. The English kept the name and wouldn't deny this... if they had given their country another name then nothing to discuss.
We're still waiting to here how Kosovo is an Albanian name....that's right it ISN''T, it's Serbian.
Until you can admit that, let's throw the stick out again......
"Thankfully Albania is not a power like Russia and would not be able to wrest these Albanian-majority parts from within Serbia's borders. Perhaps this is only thing in Russia's favour, that no one can stop them in taking back Russian populated parts in their former empire. "
(Peter Sudyka, 19 March 2014 18:46)
Exactly that's the difference. If Albania would have been a power and acting like Russia, they would have invaded YU right after Milosevic took away autonomy for Kosovo and removing Albanian from the official languages.
BTW Nikolle, I noticed your response to one of my questions only now.. apologies, you generate so many comments, it takes a while for me to catch up, having a JOB and all to worry about.
You make a point that Istanbul = Turkish work = originally Turkish.
That's fair enough actually, but from 1923 onwards ONLY. That's when this new name kicked in, it has no implications on what came before.
The Ataturk nationalists knew that Constantinople would always be considered Greek, so they:-
1. changed the name, then
2. proceeded to boot out all the Greeks.
The Albos have done a good job of point 2 wrt Serbs in Kosovo, but for unknown reasons, have not decided to give the territory a new name.
I don't get why other than you love the idea of being a Serb province.
One more interesting bit of trivia I just learned... Instanbul is a Turkish term, but based on a Greek phrase.. a little snippet from Wiki on this..
The city's name İstanbul is a shortened version with a Turkish character of the Medieval Greek phrase "εἰς τὴν Πόλιν" [is tim ˈbolin], meaning "to the city", since Constantinople was the biggest, wealthiest and most populated city of the times.
Anyway, just replying to your ultimately useless rebuttal as to why Kosovo is not Serbian... sorry still is.
Keep digging for another reason... and where is my stick?
From azir the coward: "Serbia will either recognize and accept Eastern Kosova's Independence (Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc) or continue to live a LIE and inevitable destruct internaly to everyone relief and benefit."
I asked you in an earlier post why in your view a Greater Serbia, Greater Russia, etc. is illegal and wrong, but a Greater Albania consisting of southern Serbia, eastern Montenegro, northwestern Macedonia and parts of northern Greece is proper? All of these lands, according to you, belong to Albania and will be liberated and returned to the Shiptars one day. Exactly what planet do you live on?
It's still early in 2014, but I'm sure you've already won the award for the dumbest comments of the year. Nice job.
Aleksandar Vulin, Serbia's outgoing government's minister without portfolio in charge of Kosovo, reacted to this to say that the statement represented "a threat to the territorial integrity of Serbia."
Did he hit the Wright NERV .Mr.Vulin????
This is simple, if all Balkan states where truly democratic and they allowed minorities to govern them selfs in truly autonomous way then none of this would need to happen. Simples
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