Putin informs parliament about Crimea's application

Nikolle, 18 March 2014 11:08)

I have said in another posting that events in Ukraine have overtaken you.

You said "this is far more unilateralist than anything even Bush did. there was no diplomatic engagement",.
Bush went to Iraq war without any UN resolution,he had only the support of the coalition of poodles.As to diplomatic engagement in Ukraine there were two meetings between Kerry/EU/Lavrov which ended with the EU-brokered a deal - that set elections, a return to the 2004 constitution and so on,signed by the opposition and EU only to be thrown out a day later and carry out their coup and seizing power.

Putin is standing up to Western aggression.

Mr Putin has outsmarted the West by proving he was a statesman who was prepared to defend his kith and kin no matter the cost.He is executing a diplomatic and military strategy on the ground, the West is flying around in toys and moving ships around like chickens with their heads cut off! Refer to the "Art of War" for a hint on who will prevail in these circumstances!

there's no logical opposition Russia possibly offer to Kosova uniting with Albania now, other than the you-can't-because-i-say-so-and-am-stronger-than-you argument
(Nikolle, 18 March 2014 11:08)
--
LOL! Nikolle, you still don't get it? Why would Russia oppose "Kosovahh"* joining Albania when your western partners have already rejected it but I wouldn't put it past the narrow minds of Albanians to still try. It just means that Albania then becomes an extension of Serbia's borders. Erdogen can then say that both "Kosovahhh"* and Albania are Turkey! LOL!

The west wastes 20 years provoking violence, pursuing mass death and destruction, causing humanitarian catastrophies, supporting terrorism and extremists, bribing countries and politicians all to get "Kosovahhh"* independent. Putin achieves Crimean independence and unity within weeks without a shot being fired or a bomb being dropped or a life being lost.

(Nikolle, 18 March 2014 11:08)

Yes when Bush went into Iraq it was all above board. Yes we all know that the US murders people with democracy in their hearts. Wake up from your dream.
Kosovo will never be allowed to unite with Albania as Brussels does not want an Islamic state in Europe. Crimea has the Russians as backers while Albanians in kosovo in 1999 had NATO. If your thinking Albania will do the same as the Russians in Crimea then you really need help. Brussels will say on Kosoov joining up with Albania ’what part of the word NO dont you understand?’

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE WHOLE TEXT OF PUTIN. DO NOT ANY LONGER TRUST IN COMMENTS AND MASS MEDIA. HE WAS VERY PERSUASIVE AND HE'S DONE WHAT HE HAD BEEN EXPECTED TO DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Putin has outsmarted the West by proving he was a statesman who was prepared to defend his kith and kin no matter the cost.He is executing a diplomatic and military strategy on the ground, the West is flying around in toys and moving ships around like chickens with their heads cut off! Refer to the "Art of War" for a hint on who will prevail in these circumstances!
(Leonidas, 18 March 2014 14:41)

The very same was said when German's troops overran entire Europe and the Hitler-Stalin pact was signed. Hitler was in the zenith of his power and nobody challenged his position and leadership.

The truth, however, is that violence and bullying are the means of temporal control. Nobody in history could built on those means for a longer time and eventually each evil empire collapsed. Putin was successful in his step to annex Crimea, but he failed to win Ukraine. Just as he totally lost the peoples of Europe. In fact, I never saw the entire Europe so much united then now. Of course, I know that the Putin and his apologetes (preferably bankrupt Orthodox Ottomans and Serbs) don't care much. They are anyway just shortsighted, like a bully. But in the end it will backfire. Nobody will trust Russia and his quislings and the new European order will be adjusted to replace Russia or minimize its relevance. Aside for oil and gas we don't need anything from there, and those commodities can be get from other sources as well.

(GJohn, 18 March 2014 18:47)

As a Turco-Albanian yourself you know a thing or two about evil empires after all your ancestors were loyal Ottoman servants and your fathers and Grandfathers served Hitler and Mussolini in the Second World War. Back to Putin it's pretty evident he has schooled his Western clowns(Obama, Kerry, Cameron, Hague, Van Rompuy, Barrosso and Ashton), and showing them up for the pissants they are on the world stage.These 'leaders' have no moral authority to be lecturing Russia (or anyone) on transgressions against international law ( more than 1 million civilians dead in Iraq alone).
Putin has proven himself a seasoned veteran and no doubt, like any good chess player, has long since calculated the scenarios ,permutations and combinations to ensure that he emerges with a strengthened hand at the expense of the politically correct (PC) but inept western leaders.Like him or loathe him, Putin is hugely admired by the vast majority of Russians for standing up to the machinations and hegemonic ambitions of EU/US.This is not the end,more to follow until the final collapse of the evil EU/US empires.

I am only responding to the derogatory remarks made by your fellow Albanian below.As to the rest of your posting it's well documented historically that Albanians have been under the Ottomans for nearly 500 years whereas most of Greece was less than half that time(some places were not even under the Ottomans at all).As to genetics the latest studies-I could send you the link-show that modern Greeks have similar genetic material with Polish or Italians and nothing with Turks or Albanians.
(Leonidas, 19 March 2014 11:19)

Ok no problem. The conquerors of the Middle Ages did not rape anyone in Greece because they stayed there for 400 years, not for 500 years. Get real dude, with all the wars, the commerce and the length of time this has been happening for we all have a little from each other. Whether through love, hate, or business we have all exchanged genetic material throughout all these centuries. Only a nationalistic fool would dispute the opposite. Just because we don't like each other politically doesn't mean it didn't happen. Hell most of my second cousins are either half greek, half Italian, or and even half Irish. Guess what, the half Greeks, Italians and Irish have some Albanian in them. This has happened in the last decade. Are you claiming in the past hundreds of years none of this happened, especially considering the vicinity of our people geographically; yes Turkey included.

"Kosovo is Serbia, always has been. "

oh dear me. the geographical location known as Serbia has spent a far longer time not being Serbian than being Serbian. never mind Kosova. you don't believe me? pick up a history book somewhere. people who write the garbage you do, are to be laughed at

Hilarious Nikolle, of course Kosovo is Serbian, because it is a Serbian word!

Albanians are so lame and transparent they can't even come up with their own name for the territory they "claim"!... Pretty much sums up it... there is much we can argue about, but no chance that "Kosovo is Albanian".

Come on guys, at least come up with your own name!!

And you think we Serbs need to read history books? Little bit more time in the library for you Albos wouldn't hurt I'll tell you.

Sorry, we digress from the topic under discussion, the situation in Ukraine, didn't quite catch yet how you justify NATO hiring snipers to kill police and protesters to cause this mess... or is the Estonian FM a liar?

I am honestly trying to figure out if I have read anything more stupid than what you just wrote in my life and I can't think of anything. what are you telling me, the geographical location where Serbia/Kosova is today, didn't exist before the Nemanjas? you can throw the term geopolitical all you like, it means nothing to me. before the people who came to be known as Serbs settled in what is today Serbia, there were others who ruled the area and who ruled it by a different name. what you call Kosovo today, was known as Dardania once, then the Roman province of Illyricum, then something else.
"We are the "inventors" of this place " what does this even mean? was there a lake here before and you guys brought the land? going on with your infantile logic, the Ottomans/Turks are the inventors of Istanbul, because no one had heard of Istanbul before it fell to Mehmed the Conqueror and the Ottomas proceeded to change its name. taking it on even further, if we now decide to call Kosova R2D2, we'd be the ones who 'invented' it. i would suggest that you read more, but if your comments are anything to go by, its all futile.

Nikolle, how have you been friend? English is a little rusty on that last comment, but we get the gist, namely, that you still don't get it.

So once again, a quick reminder of the facts. Kosovo is Serbia, always has been. Crimea was Ukraine (by everyone's admission, even in the western press) for only 60 odd years. That makes this situation "sui generis". Really straightforward, if you are still confused, please go ask the US state department for clarification of the new rules of "international law". No need to ask us "biased" Serbs.

Still was wondering what you had to report re the Estonian FM admitting that NATO essentially hired the snipers to kill police and protesters to create maximum trouble?

GJohn,

Being a Turco-Albanian one can understand your predicament and since your wrenched countrymen depend solely on EU handouts the main thing in your mind is where the next meal is going to come from if the West goes bust.Now I was born in a Western country and if you don't like my BS please yourself and visit an Albania site instead of a Serbian one.The rest of your crap is what we hear from the Fox news.You talk about GDP which by all account is being manipulated in order to avoid default.Why don't you talk about debt?Russia is debt free whereas your beloved US:
http://usawatchdog.com/america-in-worse-fiscal-shape-than-detroit-professor-laurence-kotlikoff/
Back to Ukraine the crisis is about the neo-con scumbags and the bankrupt FED who've printed dollars into oblivion and bombed all Israel's sovereign neighbors into the last century in order to steal their gold and take over their resources. NOW they are out of cash to finance all their buying of politicians and Rent-A-Mob mercenary "rebels".The US is desperate to "hang on" to the "printed dollar" and petro-dollar so they can continue their warmongering, stealing, bribing, blackmailing, murdering, spying, drug-running, judge-fixing, gun-running and cover up their MASSIVE crimes against the people.
They've surrounded Russia, and Putin has no choice but to fight back.

Leonidas, I don't think you should be calling anyone Turco-anything. Turkey has been raping Greece through wars for generations.Chances are you're more Turkish genetically than someone born in Ankara and don't know it yet.
(j, 19 March 2014 01:56)

I am only responding to the derogatory remarks made by your fellow Albanian below.As to the rest of your posting it's well documented historically that Albanians have been under the Ottomans for nearly 500 years whereas most of Greece was less than half that time(some places were not even under the Ottomans at all).As to genetics the latest studies-I could send you the link-show that modern Greeks have similar genetic material with Polish or Italians and nothing with Turks or Albanians.

Nikolle, Nikolle... pretty sure I am not the stupid one.

I've noticed your comments are becoming more and more frantic like the other typical Albo trolls here... disappointing, I had hoped for better.

So, you again try to change the question we are trying to answer.... we were not talking about origins of certain rock formations in a particular part of the Balkan Peninsula... we are talking about a geopolitical entity named Kosovo and what are its origins.

I say again, that this notion was first coined by Serbs, the simple proof is that it is a Serbian word, nobody had heard of "Kosovo" till Serbs were here... the Ottomans then kept using that name, even naming a vilayet for it, then Albanians seem to have adopted it too recently (you've even started calling yourselves "Kosovars", we Serbs are flattered... but why name yourselves after a blackbird?? Do you even realise that?).

We are the "inventors" of this place Nikolle - make no doubt about it. This is just a loan word in Albanian... loaned from Serbia.

As for your other pathetic defences of "pro-imperialism", I suggest you read some of the following..

http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/

Very good writer is Pat Buchanan... excellent critques of "pro-imperialism".. or as he calls it... the "War Party".

I might start using that term from now on for you.

@J,

Obviously, you have no idea what you are talking about:You mix ethnicity,your wishy washy personal circumstances and produce a generalized unhistorical cocktail.I don't deny that Greece went through various occupations ( Ottoman Include) in its history but what I am saying is the duration of the occupation was much smaller than the rest of the Balkans.Unlike the Albanian crowd on this site that keeps remind us of their Pelasgian,Illyrian or Illyrian descendants I am on record saying that no serious historian would ever claim that modern peoples are direct descendants of ancient peoples, at least in terms of DNA. What really matters is continuation (e.g. culture, language, religion) which ensures the historical sense of an evolving community through time.
Another fallacy which Albanians use on this site is describing Greeks as "Ottoman Christians" or the Greek minority as " Albanian Orthodox"-your fellow Albanian used that description.Do you really believe that speaking Turkish (since Greek was banned in various areas of Anatolia since the 16th c.) makes a person a Turk? Do you really believe that speaking Albanian (since Greek was banned during Hoxha's regime with many Greeks imprisoned in central Albania)makes a person a Albanian? How many Christian Turks do you really know of? How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?Do you know what 'apostasy' means in Islam? Some food for thought.

i know a lot of Christian Albanians.

Of course you do considering the fact that 95% of Albanians in Kosovo have declared their religion as Islam.That leaves about 5% which probably refers to Christian Orthodox Serbs in the North of Kosovo.It's exactly the same argument employed by Albanians in Albania.Have you heard any Albanian describing the Greek Christian orthodox as such?No you haven't because according to Albanians they are Albanian orthodox.In the 2012 census in Albania-though shambles- 82% of the inhabitants declared themselves as Albanian the rest didn't. Yet according to Albanians there are no minorities in Albania.

BTW I am not denying that there could be some Albanians of the Christian Orthodox faith but their numbers are pretty tiny to support the validity of your arguments.

OK, don't take my word for it; come to Prishtina, come to Gjakova, come to Prizren,

I talk about statistics,the rest is just wishful thinking on your part.The latest census has shown that 95% of Albanians in Kosovo are of Islamic faith.I am sure you can work out what faith is the remainder 5%.
As to Albania many Greeks who lived under a repressive communist regime in S. Albania were forced to change their names and hide their identities (let alone that Albanian authorities, in violation of several treaties (ca 1913-14 etc) considered as Greek minority people only those who lived in certain areas, as designated by the Albanian authorities, and left out big chunks of minority Greeks by descent.It is natural that after 1990 many people of Greek origin felt free to declare their identity.But according to you and many other Albanians these people are just Albanian orthodox masquerading as Greeks. As for the recent Albanian census, you may have a look at the EU and Council of Europe reports to say the least, let alone much of Albanian media: people who carried out the census said to Albanian media that they filled in many questionnaire fields by themselves, including the ethnic and religious identity boxes. And let us not mention the ludicrous hefty fine set by the Albanian government for those who would dare cite a different ethnic identity to that stated in the official registry (which often dates back to the communist period of ‘free expression’).

by the way, you didn't address my other questions; can one be a Greek and a Muslim? can one be an atheist and a Greek? if I was to adopt the Orthodox faith, would I stop being Albanian? i see no reason why i could not be an Orthodox and Albanian, just like I see no reason why one couldn't be Muslim and Greek. religion may define your nationality for you, but it doesn't for us
(Nikolle, 21 March 2014 10:42)

Of course one can be Greek,atheist,Buddhist or Muslim and if there're any their numbers are pretty negligible.

this is far more unilateralist than anything even Bush did. there was no diplomatic engagement, just military action and a seizure of territory. as for Putin merely doing what the West did kn Kosova, not true. for a start, there was a real effort to bring about a political solution. it failed. there was no such push from Russia regards Ukraine. of course, for the ironic anti-imperialists that comment here, Putin is standing up to Western aggression (though there's no tanks, no army personnel and no military to speak of in Ukraine). great news for those who believe in self-determination however, there's no logical opposition Russia possibly offer to Kosova uniting with Albania now, other than the you-can't-because-i-say-so-and-am-stronger-than-you argument

its not the first time that you don't understand anything sj. i did write to you before, i take pity on, since you suffer from FPP so i choose not to poke fun anymore

"Kosovo is Serbian, because it is a Serbian word!"

Is San Diego Spanish since San Diego is a Spanish phrasing? how about San Francisco? by your garbage logic, all we have to do is change the name and viola, all's done. as for your other points, you couldn't be bothered to read my opinion then, i can't be bothered to repeat them now

"As for your other pathetic defences of "pro-imperialism", "

as for this, sweetheart, you are a pro-imperialist. you do not denounce Russian actions in Ukraine or in Georgia. you like to think of yourself as standing up for the little guy, but you don't. you stand for Russian incursion into other territories. you cheer it, but you do it by hiding behind words like regrettable.

We are the "inventors" of this place Nikolle - make no doubt about it
(commentator, 19 March 2014 16:38)

Woow, we just made a great scientific discovery in these forums. Scientists have been trying to find for centuries what or whom "invented" Earth 5 billion years ago and finally we found the answer... somebody called "commentator" did it... congratulations :)

@commentator

it seems to me that you have no retort to any of my points. you were the one who claimed Kosovo has always been Serbian (key word there being, always). it very obviously isn't true is it. nor was it Serbian at its origin. i don't blame you personally however, i blame the brainwashing that you people are subjected to from an early age. you have yet to emancipate yourself from your myths

Nikolle,

It seems to me you're trying to muddle the waters again.I've been talking about Christian Orthodox and you turn them into Catholics.Even so the census of 2011 shows that 95.6% of Albanians are of Islamic faith,2.2% of Christian Catholic and 1.48% (25837)of Christian Orthodox.The same census
shows the number of Serbs living in Kosovo numbered to 25532 which is accounts roughly for the Christian Orthodox population.So where are all these Christian Orthodox Albanians? Clearly there are no any.Back to the Greek minority I haven't mention any numbers and I don't know where the 300k is coming from.This number was probably relevant in the 1980s but not at present because thousands of ethnic Greeks moved to Greece from Albania in the last 20+ years.

@Leonidas

unlike in Crimea, Bush, before the start of military engagement, went to the UN. mr Putin hasn't. its true the US did not have UN approval, it had more countries on its side however. Russia hasn't. Putin's actions in Ukraine are far more unilateralist than anything even Bush did. i know for the ironic anti-imperialasits this is hard to see, but i live in hope

Yes Nikolle, San Diego and such places are originally Spanish, absolutely, that just underlines my point that Kosovo is originally Serbian, by the origin of its name. I don't dispute that many Albanians live there now, the original point we were debating is that Kosovo is/isn't originally Serbian.

Glad you agree it is, finally some traction.

Still no response re the Estonian FM? Not like you to shy away Nikolle, or are you embarrassed at what the forces of pro-imperialism are getting up to?

Come on, please do tell.

(icj1, 19 March 2014 03:48)

To the AE, who brought us that calculation of 2+2=10, no Brussels will never allow Kosoov to join with Albania becasue they dont want a large Islamic state in Europe, but that matters little now since Russia has started to assert itself and once taking over what it wants, Europe will be in their hands and many decisions made in haste will be reversed, one such is Kosovo. Enjoy it while you cant.
P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein.

no Brussels will never allow Kosoov to join with Albania becasue etc.. etc... etc...
(sj, 19 March 2014 10:34)

I totally agree with you... But the question I was asking is what if Brussels goes crazy and does allow it? I totally understand that it is an heresy to go against the commandments of the CE of B92 forums sj, that's why I'm trying to prepare for those scenarios and ways to prevent them from happening.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

"I talk about statistics,the rest is just wishful thinking on your part."

sunshine, you indirectly accused me of lying when I wrote that I know a lot of Christian Albanians. so here I am, offering you the opportunity to catch me out on my lies. come to Prishtina and I will introduce you to those Catholic Albanians; then, I will take you to places that have a majority Catholic Albanian population. its a challenge that I raise to you and then you will see whether I am engaging in wishful thinking. as for Greeks in Southern Albania, its obvious here that we're going to disagree. you see, i distinguish between faith and nationality (I will not use the word ethnicity cause its almost a racist term). now according to you, since Southern Albania is majority Orthodox, they have to be Greeks. from what i have read here, they're also oppressed Greeks whose numbers run into the 300K. Quite a figure in a country that numbers all of 2.5 mill. so i have always wondered, why don't they just go out en mass to protest? its really easy. let these 300K (which would pretty much be all of Southern Albania) oppressed Greeks take to the streets and make their numbers known. there's a reason for why they don't do that.
by the way, i am not for a second denying that there are ethnic Greeks who live in Albania, but that most/all Orthodox Albanians are Greek, that is nonsense.

As a Turco-Albanian yourself

-- Leonidas, I don't think you should be calling anyone Turco-anything. Turkey has been raping Greece through wars for generations.Chances are you're more Turkish genetically than someone born in Ankara and don't know it yet.

You can use Turkey as a derogatory term all you want. You can't do $hit to them; so you with all the snotty and holier than thou attitude are clearly doing something wrong. A people you clearly look down upon, an inferior people according to you, have put both of your feet in one shoe. That says a lot about your own shortcomings more than anything else.

Superiority complexes have not helped anybody; ask Hitler. They are an indicator of your own inferiority more than anything. You look down on people because you are lacking. Its a red flag for self-esteem issues.

Putin has proven himself a seasoned veteran and no doubt, like any good chess player, has long since calculated the scenarios ,permutations and combinations to ensure that he emerges with a strengthened hand at the expense of the politically correct (PC) but inept western leaders.Like him or loathe him, Putin is hugely admired by the vast majority of Russians for standing up to the machinations and hegemonic ambitions of EU/US.This is not the end,more to follow until the final collapse of the evil EU/US empires.
(Leonidas, 18 March 2014 21:13)


Leonidas,

I'm surprised that you show no gratitude to the U.S. for saving Greece from becoming Communist after WW II. If it wasn't for America, you would be working in a Souvlaki stand somewhere in Siberia.

The only one outsmarted by Putin was himself. The Russian stock market has fallen 30% since his little adventure in Crimea. Additionally, Europe will never trust him again and will act, along with the U.S, to isolate Russia from the civilized world. It is checkmate for Putin and Russia. Watch and be amazed as the Russian people suffer from a dramatic decline in their living standards, then we will see how many admirers he will have. I can see that America will have to provide Russia with wheat shipments once again.

Your English is not so good Nikolle... you just can't understand the point we are debating here.

Rush on back to school now, you are wasting our time here. Just another rude Albo troll in the end... sigh. Was hoping there was at least one normal sounding one somewhere on the internet.

I assume the next class at Albania high school will be "War Party politics 101".

You are getting an A in that, English I have to downgrade now to a D.

" How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?Do you know what 'apostasy' means in Islam? Some food for thought."

what does this have to do with anything? you know what, i know a lot of Christian Albanians. you don't have to take my word for it, come to Gjakova, Shkodra, Prizren, hell even Prishtina and you'll find them. but scratch that, what really is your point? are you insinuating that one can't be a Christian and an Albanian? can one be British and a Buddhist? if I was to suddenly be persuaded by Orthodox theism (its never going to happen), would I cease being Albanian? if I was to be persuaded by Islamic theism (its never going to happen), would I immediately become an Arab? what weird notions do you follow? tell me, can one be a Greek and a Muslim? or a Greek an atheist?

OK, don't take my word for it; come to Prishtina, come to Gjakova, come to Prizren, not one person is stopping to find out for yourself. you can easily call me a liar, but i challenge you to prove me wrong. Greece isn't far from Prishtina, I can tell you which places to visit, where Catholic Albanians dwell. you brave enough to accept my challenge?
as for Greeks in Albania, what is it that you're trying to get at? if I was to read between the lines, i'd say you're trying to infer that the majority of those who profess an Orthodox faith are by definition Greek. there is of course a simple retort to that, its balls. there is a reason why the Orthodox Church of Albania was set up, because people wouldn't accept that such a thing as an Albanian Orthodox exists. this by the way, is the same arguments Turks use, in regards to Muslim Albanians, they say such a thing doesn't exist.

by the way, you didn't address my other questions; can one be a Greek and a Muslim? can one be an atheist and a Greek? if I was to adopt the Orthodox faith, would I stop being Albanian? i see no reason why i could not be an Orthodox and Albanian, just like I see no reason why one couldn't be Muslim and Greek. religion may define your nationality for you, but it doesn't for us

@Leonidas: I quote from you directly: "How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?" you did not add the qualifier Orthodox. I merely answered your question. as far as I know, to be Catholic is to be a Christian

@ Orthodox Ottoman,

As I see you just continue your known rant against the West (the very place from where you send your daily BS) without coming with something solid. But I give you something solid. Compare the GDP of EU and/or the USA with Russia. Whenever I do this, I could laughingly fall from the chair. Russia has only one bit of luck and that is the possession of nukes. Aside from that nobody would take Putin and his cronies series. The truth however is that soon anybody can have those toys. Look and your beloved Kim Yong (D)Um(p). And extremely poor society which eats sometimes pure grass, but invests in nukes. Or Venezuela, a rich country, but totally corrupt and miserable.

The Anti-Western countries are total suckers and they are this because they despise their own people, keeping a total corrupt group of people in power. No, my Orthodox Ottoman. The West is not perfect and has to evolve, but is light years ahead of those dictatorships which you cheer but would never put your rear in. And you know why..

Brussels will say on Kosoov joining up with Albania ’what part of the word NO dont you understand?’
(sj, 18 March 2014 13:07)

Dear sj, I think everybody understand you (how could they not, you being the CE of B92 forums!)... The problem is what if Brussels goes crazy and says "Yes"?! What will we do then?! Unfortunately, I can't go to Brussels and tell them: "Guys you must revert your decision because the CE of B92 forums sj has said so". Any other ideas ?

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

"...Kosovo is/isn't originally Serbian.2

what makes it originally Serbian? how stupid are you? Kosovo, like Serbia, like Albania are names given to a geographical area; that's all. before any Slav had even seen Europe, never mind settled there, the area that we now call Kosovo/Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia/Poland/Czech Rerpublic... were called and controlled by another group/other groups, hence contrary to your belief it isn't originally Serbian. Serbia itself isn't originally Serbian. this is common sense sunshine, why you have a hard time grappling with common sense is your issue, not mine.
as for your other point, i told you before, i have already shared my opinions on that nonsense conspiracy and you couldn't be bothered to read them then. if you couldn't be bothered to read them, i can't be bothered to repeat them. you can still find the relevant article and go through my points

Leonidas: I quote from you directly: "How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?" you did not add the qualifier Orthodox. I merely answered your question. as far as I know, to be Catholic is to be a Christian
(Nikolle, 23 March 2014 22:07)

If you start reading from the beginning of the paragraph you'll see I am talking about "Turkish Orthodox" & "Albanian Orthodox" Christians nevertheless it seems that you agree with my point about the non-existence of Albanian Christian Orthodox in Kosovo.

this is far more unilateralist than anything even Bush did. there was no diplomatic engagement, just military action and a seizure of territory. as for Putin merely doing what the West did kn Kosova, not true. for a start, there was a real effort to bring about a political solution. it failed. there was no such push from Russia regards Ukraine. of course, for the ironic anti-imperialists that comment here, Putin is standing up to Western aggression (though there's no tanks, no army personnel and no military to speak of in Ukraine). great news for those who believe in self-determination however, there's no logical opposition Russia possibly offer to Kosova uniting with Albania now, other than the you-can't-because-i-say-so-and-am-stronger-than-you argument

Nikolle, how have you been friend? English is a little rusty on that last comment, but we get the gist, namely, that you still don't get it.

So once again, a quick reminder of the facts. Kosovo is Serbia, always has been. Crimea was Ukraine (by everyone's admission, even in the western press) for only 60 odd years. That makes this situation "sui generis". Really straightforward, if you are still confused, please go ask the US state department for clarification of the new rules of "international law". No need to ask us "biased" Serbs.

Still was wondering what you had to report re the Estonian FM admitting that NATO essentially hired the snipers to kill police and protesters to create maximum trouble?

"Kosovo is Serbia, always has been. "

oh dear me. the geographical location known as Serbia has spent a far longer time not being Serbian than being Serbian. never mind Kosova. you don't believe me? pick up a history book somewhere. people who write the garbage you do, are to be laughed at

Mr Putin has outsmarted the West by proving he was a statesman who was prepared to defend his kith and kin no matter the cost.He is executing a diplomatic and military strategy on the ground, the West is flying around in toys and moving ships around like chickens with their heads cut off! Refer to the "Art of War" for a hint on who will prevail in these circumstances!
(Leonidas, 18 March 2014 14:41)

The very same was said when German's troops overran entire Europe and the Hitler-Stalin pact was signed. Hitler was in the zenith of his power and nobody challenged his position and leadership.

The truth, however, is that violence and bullying are the means of temporal control. Nobody in history could built on those means for a longer time and eventually each evil empire collapsed. Putin was successful in his step to annex Crimea, but he failed to win Ukraine. Just as he totally lost the peoples of Europe. In fact, I never saw the entire Europe so much united then now. Of course, I know that the Putin and his apologetes (preferably bankrupt Orthodox Ottomans and Serbs) don't care much. They are anyway just shortsighted, like a bully. But in the end it will backfire. Nobody will trust Russia and his quislings and the new European order will be adjusted to replace Russia or minimize its relevance. Aside for oil and gas we don't need anything from there, and those commodities can be get from other sources as well.

its not the first time that you don't understand anything sj. i did write to you before, i take pity on, since you suffer from FPP so i choose not to poke fun anymore

"Kosovo is Serbian, because it is a Serbian word!"

Is San Diego Spanish since San Diego is a Spanish phrasing? how about San Francisco? by your garbage logic, all we have to do is change the name and viola, all's done. as for your other points, you couldn't be bothered to read my opinion then, i can't be bothered to repeat them now

(GJohn, 18 March 2014 18:47)

As a Turco-Albanian yourself you know a thing or two about evil empires after all your ancestors were loyal Ottoman servants and your fathers and Grandfathers served Hitler and Mussolini in the Second World War. Back to Putin it's pretty evident he has schooled his Western clowns(Obama, Kerry, Cameron, Hague, Van Rompuy, Barrosso and Ashton), and showing them up for the pissants they are on the world stage.These 'leaders' have no moral authority to be lecturing Russia (or anyone) on transgressions against international law ( more than 1 million civilians dead in Iraq alone).
Putin has proven himself a seasoned veteran and no doubt, like any good chess player, has long since calculated the scenarios ,permutations and combinations to ensure that he emerges with a strengthened hand at the expense of the politically correct (PC) but inept western leaders.Like him or loathe him, Putin is hugely admired by the vast majority of Russians for standing up to the machinations and hegemonic ambitions of EU/US.This is not the end,more to follow until the final collapse of the evil EU/US empires.

there's no logical opposition Russia possibly offer to Kosova uniting with Albania now, other than the you-can't-because-i-say-so-and-am-stronger-than-you argument
(Nikolle, 18 March 2014 11:08)
--
LOL! Nikolle, you still don't get it? Why would Russia oppose "Kosovahh"* joining Albania when your western partners have already rejected it but I wouldn't put it past the narrow minds of Albanians to still try. It just means that Albania then becomes an extension of Serbia's borders. Erdogen can then say that both "Kosovahhh"* and Albania are Turkey! LOL!

The west wastes 20 years provoking violence, pursuing mass death and destruction, causing humanitarian catastrophies, supporting terrorism and extremists, bribing countries and politicians all to get "Kosovahhh"* independent. Putin achieves Crimean independence and unity within weeks without a shot being fired or a bomb being dropped or a life being lost.

I am honestly trying to figure out if I have read anything more stupid than what you just wrote in my life and I can't think of anything. what are you telling me, the geographical location where Serbia/Kosova is today, didn't exist before the Nemanjas? you can throw the term geopolitical all you like, it means nothing to me. before the people who came to be known as Serbs settled in what is today Serbia, there were others who ruled the area and who ruled it by a different name. what you call Kosovo today, was known as Dardania once, then the Roman province of Illyricum, then something else.
"We are the "inventors" of this place " what does this even mean? was there a lake here before and you guys brought the land? going on with your infantile logic, the Ottomans/Turks are the inventors of Istanbul, because no one had heard of Istanbul before it fell to Mehmed the Conqueror and the Ottomas proceeded to change its name. taking it on even further, if we now decide to call Kosova R2D2, we'd be the ones who 'invented' it. i would suggest that you read more, but if your comments are anything to go by, its all futile.

(Nikolle, 18 March 2014 11:08)

Yes when Bush went into Iraq it was all above board. Yes we all know that the US murders people with democracy in their hearts. Wake up from your dream.
Kosovo will never be allowed to unite with Albania as Brussels does not want an Islamic state in Europe. Crimea has the Russians as backers while Albanians in kosovo in 1999 had NATO. If your thinking Albania will do the same as the Russians in Crimea then you really need help. Brussels will say on Kosoov joining up with Albania ’what part of the word NO dont you understand?’

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE WHOLE TEXT OF PUTIN. DO NOT ANY LONGER TRUST IN COMMENTS AND MASS MEDIA. HE WAS VERY PERSUASIVE AND HE'S DONE WHAT HE HAD BEEN EXPECTED TO DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nikolle, 18 March 2014 11:08)

I have said in another posting that events in Ukraine have overtaken you.

You said "this is far more unilateralist than anything even Bush did. there was no diplomatic engagement",.
Bush went to Iraq war without any UN resolution,he had only the support of the coalition of poodles.As to diplomatic engagement in Ukraine there were two meetings between Kerry/EU/Lavrov which ended with the EU-brokered a deal - that set elections, a return to the 2004 constitution and so on,signed by the opposition and EU only to be thrown out a day later and carry out their coup and seizing power.

Putin is standing up to Western aggression.

Mr Putin has outsmarted the West by proving he was a statesman who was prepared to defend his kith and kin no matter the cost.He is executing a diplomatic and military strategy on the ground, the West is flying around in toys and moving ships around like chickens with their heads cut off! Refer to the "Art of War" for a hint on who will prevail in these circumstances!

Hilarious Nikolle, of course Kosovo is Serbian, because it is a Serbian word!

Albanians are so lame and transparent they can't even come up with their own name for the territory they "claim"!... Pretty much sums up it... there is much we can argue about, but no chance that "Kosovo is Albanian".

Come on guys, at least come up with your own name!!

And you think we Serbs need to read history books? Little bit more time in the library for you Albos wouldn't hurt I'll tell you.

Sorry, we digress from the topic under discussion, the situation in Ukraine, didn't quite catch yet how you justify NATO hiring snipers to kill police and protesters to cause this mess... or is the Estonian FM a liar?

Nikolle, Nikolle... pretty sure I am not the stupid one.

I've noticed your comments are becoming more and more frantic like the other typical Albo trolls here... disappointing, I had hoped for better.

So, you again try to change the question we are trying to answer.... we were not talking about origins of certain rock formations in a particular part of the Balkan Peninsula... we are talking about a geopolitical entity named Kosovo and what are its origins.

I say again, that this notion was first coined by Serbs, the simple proof is that it is a Serbian word, nobody had heard of "Kosovo" till Serbs were here... the Ottomans then kept using that name, even naming a vilayet for it, then Albanians seem to have adopted it too recently (you've even started calling yourselves "Kosovars", we Serbs are flattered... but why name yourselves after a blackbird?? Do you even realise that?).

We are the "inventors" of this place Nikolle - make no doubt about it. This is just a loan word in Albanian... loaned from Serbia.

As for your other pathetic defences of "pro-imperialism", I suggest you read some of the following..

http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/

Very good writer is Pat Buchanan... excellent critques of "pro-imperialism".. or as he calls it... the "War Party".

I might start using that term from now on for you.

I am only responding to the derogatory remarks made by your fellow Albanian below.As to the rest of your posting it's well documented historically that Albanians have been under the Ottomans for nearly 500 years whereas most of Greece was less than half that time(some places were not even under the Ottomans at all).As to genetics the latest studies-I could send you the link-show that modern Greeks have similar genetic material with Polish or Italians and nothing with Turks or Albanians.
(Leonidas, 19 March 2014 11:19)

Ok no problem. The conquerors of the Middle Ages did not rape anyone in Greece because they stayed there for 400 years, not for 500 years. Get real dude, with all the wars, the commerce and the length of time this has been happening for we all have a little from each other. Whether through love, hate, or business we have all exchanged genetic material throughout all these centuries. Only a nationalistic fool would dispute the opposite. Just because we don't like each other politically doesn't mean it didn't happen. Hell most of my second cousins are either half greek, half Italian, or and even half Irish. Guess what, the half Greeks, Italians and Irish have some Albanian in them. This has happened in the last decade. Are you claiming in the past hundreds of years none of this happened, especially considering the vicinity of our people geographically; yes Turkey included.

@commentator

it seems to me that you have no retort to any of my points. you were the one who claimed Kosovo has always been Serbian (key word there being, always). it very obviously isn't true is it. nor was it Serbian at its origin. i don't blame you personally however, i blame the brainwashing that you people are subjected to from an early age. you have yet to emancipate yourself from your myths

@Leonidas

unlike in Crimea, Bush, before the start of military engagement, went to the UN. mr Putin hasn't. its true the US did not have UN approval, it had more countries on its side however. Russia hasn't. Putin's actions in Ukraine are far more unilateralist than anything even Bush did. i know for the ironic anti-imperialasits this is hard to see, but i live in hope

@ Orthodox Ottoman,

As I see you just continue your known rant against the West (the very place from where you send your daily BS) without coming with something solid. But I give you something solid. Compare the GDP of EU and/or the USA with Russia. Whenever I do this, I could laughingly fall from the chair. Russia has only one bit of luck and that is the possession of nukes. Aside from that nobody would take Putin and his cronies series. The truth however is that soon anybody can have those toys. Look and your beloved Kim Yong (D)Um(p). And extremely poor society which eats sometimes pure grass, but invests in nukes. Or Venezuela, a rich country, but totally corrupt and miserable.

The Anti-Western countries are total suckers and they are this because they despise their own people, keeping a total corrupt group of people in power. No, my Orthodox Ottoman. The West is not perfect and has to evolve, but is light years ahead of those dictatorships which you cheer but would never put your rear in. And you know why..

As a Turco-Albanian yourself

-- Leonidas, I don't think you should be calling anyone Turco-anything. Turkey has been raping Greece through wars for generations.Chances are you're more Turkish genetically than someone born in Ankara and don't know it yet.

You can use Turkey as a derogatory term all you want. You can't do $hit to them; so you with all the snotty and holier than thou attitude are clearly doing something wrong. A people you clearly look down upon, an inferior people according to you, have put both of your feet in one shoe. That says a lot about your own shortcomings more than anything else.

Superiority complexes have not helped anybody; ask Hitler. They are an indicator of your own inferiority more than anything. You look down on people because you are lacking. Its a red flag for self-esteem issues.

Brussels will say on Kosoov joining up with Albania ’what part of the word NO dont you understand?’
(sj, 18 March 2014 13:07)

Dear sj, I think everybody understand you (how could they not, you being the CE of B92 forums!)... The problem is what if Brussels goes crazy and says "Yes"?! What will we do then?! Unfortunately, I can't go to Brussels and tell them: "Guys you must revert your decision because the CE of B92 forums sj has said so". Any other ideas ?

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Yes Nikolle, San Diego and such places are originally Spanish, absolutely, that just underlines my point that Kosovo is originally Serbian, by the origin of its name. I don't dispute that many Albanians live there now, the original point we were debating is that Kosovo is/isn't originally Serbian.

Glad you agree it is, finally some traction.

Still no response re the Estonian FM? Not like you to shy away Nikolle, or are you embarrassed at what the forces of pro-imperialism are getting up to?

Come on, please do tell.

"...Kosovo is/isn't originally Serbian.2

what makes it originally Serbian? how stupid are you? Kosovo, like Serbia, like Albania are names given to a geographical area; that's all. before any Slav had even seen Europe, never mind settled there, the area that we now call Kosovo/Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia/Poland/Czech Rerpublic... were called and controlled by another group/other groups, hence contrary to your belief it isn't originally Serbian. Serbia itself isn't originally Serbian. this is common sense sunshine, why you have a hard time grappling with common sense is your issue, not mine.
as for your other point, i told you before, i have already shared my opinions on that nonsense conspiracy and you couldn't be bothered to read them then. if you couldn't be bothered to read them, i can't be bothered to repeat them. you can still find the relevant article and go through my points

(icj1, 19 March 2014 03:48)

To the AE, who brought us that calculation of 2+2=10, no Brussels will never allow Kosoov to join with Albania becasue they dont want a large Islamic state in Europe, but that matters little now since Russia has started to assert itself and once taking over what it wants, Europe will be in their hands and many decisions made in haste will be reversed, one such is Kosovo. Enjoy it while you cant.
P.S. AE= Albanian Einstein.

Leonidas, I don't think you should be calling anyone Turco-anything. Turkey has been raping Greece through wars for generations.Chances are you're more Turkish genetically than someone born in Ankara and don't know it yet.
(j, 19 March 2014 01:56)

I am only responding to the derogatory remarks made by your fellow Albanian below.As to the rest of your posting it's well documented historically that Albanians have been under the Ottomans for nearly 500 years whereas most of Greece was less than half that time(some places were not even under the Ottomans at all).As to genetics the latest studies-I could send you the link-show that modern Greeks have similar genetic material with Polish or Italians and nothing with Turks or Albanians.

Your English is not so good Nikolle... you just can't understand the point we are debating here.

Rush on back to school now, you are wasting our time here. Just another rude Albo troll in the end... sigh. Was hoping there was at least one normal sounding one somewhere on the internet.

I assume the next class at Albania high school will be "War Party politics 101".

You are getting an A in that, English I have to downgrade now to a D.

no Brussels will never allow Kosoov to join with Albania becasue etc.. etc... etc...
(sj, 19 March 2014 10:34)

I totally agree with you... But the question I was asking is what if Brussels goes crazy and does allow it? I totally understand that it is an heresy to go against the commandments of the CE of B92 forums sj, that's why I'm trying to prepare for those scenarios and ways to prevent them from happening.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

" How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?Do you know what 'apostasy' means in Islam? Some food for thought."

what does this have to do with anything? you know what, i know a lot of Christian Albanians. you don't have to take my word for it, come to Gjakova, Shkodra, Prizren, hell even Prishtina and you'll find them. but scratch that, what really is your point? are you insinuating that one can't be a Christian and an Albanian? can one be British and a Buddhist? if I was to suddenly be persuaded by Orthodox theism (its never going to happen), would I cease being Albanian? if I was to be persuaded by Islamic theism (its never going to happen), would I immediately become an Arab? what weird notions do you follow? tell me, can one be a Greek and a Muslim? or a Greek an atheist?

OK, don't take my word for it; come to Prishtina, come to Gjakova, come to Prizren, not one person is stopping to find out for yourself. you can easily call me a liar, but i challenge you to prove me wrong. Greece isn't far from Prishtina, I can tell you which places to visit, where Catholic Albanians dwell. you brave enough to accept my challenge?
as for Greeks in Albania, what is it that you're trying to get at? if I was to read between the lines, i'd say you're trying to infer that the majority of those who profess an Orthodox faith are by definition Greek. there is of course a simple retort to that, its balls. there is a reason why the Orthodox Church of Albania was set up, because people wouldn't accept that such a thing as an Albanian Orthodox exists. this by the way, is the same arguments Turks use, in regards to Muslim Albanians, they say such a thing doesn't exist.

by the way, you didn't address my other questions; can one be a Greek and a Muslim? can one be an atheist and a Greek? if I was to adopt the Orthodox faith, would I stop being Albanian? i see no reason why i could not be an Orthodox and Albanian, just like I see no reason why one couldn't be Muslim and Greek. religion may define your nationality for you, but it doesn't for us

"I talk about statistics,the rest is just wishful thinking on your part."

sunshine, you indirectly accused me of lying when I wrote that I know a lot of Christian Albanians. so here I am, offering you the opportunity to catch me out on my lies. come to Prishtina and I will introduce you to those Catholic Albanians; then, I will take you to places that have a majority Catholic Albanian population. its a challenge that I raise to you and then you will see whether I am engaging in wishful thinking. as for Greeks in Southern Albania, its obvious here that we're going to disagree. you see, i distinguish between faith and nationality (I will not use the word ethnicity cause its almost a racist term). now according to you, since Southern Albania is majority Orthodox, they have to be Greeks. from what i have read here, they're also oppressed Greeks whose numbers run into the 300K. Quite a figure in a country that numbers all of 2.5 mill. so i have always wondered, why don't they just go out en mass to protest? its really easy. let these 300K (which would pretty much be all of Southern Albania) oppressed Greeks take to the streets and make their numbers known. there's a reason for why they don't do that.
by the way, i am not for a second denying that there are ethnic Greeks who live in Albania, but that most/all Orthodox Albanians are Greek, that is nonsense.

Putin has proven himself a seasoned veteran and no doubt, like any good chess player, has long since calculated the scenarios ,permutations and combinations to ensure that he emerges with a strengthened hand at the expense of the politically correct (PC) but inept western leaders.Like him or loathe him, Putin is hugely admired by the vast majority of Russians for standing up to the machinations and hegemonic ambitions of EU/US.This is not the end,more to follow until the final collapse of the evil EU/US empires.
(Leonidas, 18 March 2014 21:13)


Leonidas,

I'm surprised that you show no gratitude to the U.S. for saving Greece from becoming Communist after WW II. If it wasn't for America, you would be working in a Souvlaki stand somewhere in Siberia.

The only one outsmarted by Putin was himself. The Russian stock market has fallen 30% since his little adventure in Crimea. Additionally, Europe will never trust him again and will act, along with the U.S, to isolate Russia from the civilized world. It is checkmate for Putin and Russia. Watch and be amazed as the Russian people suffer from a dramatic decline in their living standards, then we will see how many admirers he will have. I can see that America will have to provide Russia with wheat shipments once again.

"As for your other pathetic defences of "pro-imperialism", "

as for this, sweetheart, you are a pro-imperialist. you do not denounce Russian actions in Ukraine or in Georgia. you like to think of yourself as standing up for the little guy, but you don't. you stand for Russian incursion into other territories. you cheer it, but you do it by hiding behind words like regrettable.

We are the "inventors" of this place Nikolle - make no doubt about it
(commentator, 19 March 2014 16:38)

Woow, we just made a great scientific discovery in these forums. Scientists have been trying to find for centuries what or whom "invented" Earth 5 billion years ago and finally we found the answer... somebody called "commentator" did it... congratulations :)

@J,

Obviously, you have no idea what you are talking about:You mix ethnicity,your wishy washy personal circumstances and produce a generalized unhistorical cocktail.I don't deny that Greece went through various occupations ( Ottoman Include) in its history but what I am saying is the duration of the occupation was much smaller than the rest of the Balkans.Unlike the Albanian crowd on this site that keeps remind us of their Pelasgian,Illyrian or Illyrian descendants I am on record saying that no serious historian would ever claim that modern peoples are direct descendants of ancient peoples, at least in terms of DNA. What really matters is continuation (e.g. culture, language, religion) which ensures the historical sense of an evolving community through time.
Another fallacy which Albanians use on this site is describing Greeks as "Ottoman Christians" or the Greek minority as " Albanian Orthodox"-your fellow Albanian used that description.Do you really believe that speaking Turkish (since Greek was banned in various areas of Anatolia since the 16th c.) makes a person a Turk? Do you really believe that speaking Albanian (since Greek was banned during Hoxha's regime with many Greeks imprisoned in central Albania)makes a person a Albanian? How many Christian Turks do you really know of? How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?Do you know what 'apostasy' means in Islam? Some food for thought.

Nikolle,

It seems to me you're trying to muddle the waters again.I've been talking about Christian Orthodox and you turn them into Catholics.Even so the census of 2011 shows that 95.6% of Albanians are of Islamic faith,2.2% of Christian Catholic and 1.48% (25837)of Christian Orthodox.The same census
shows the number of Serbs living in Kosovo numbered to 25532 which is accounts roughly for the Christian Orthodox population.So where are all these Christian Orthodox Albanians? Clearly there are no any.Back to the Greek minority I haven't mention any numbers and I don't know where the 300k is coming from.This number was probably relevant in the 1980s but not at present because thousands of ethnic Greeks moved to Greece from Albania in the last 20+ years.

GJohn,

Being a Turco-Albanian one can understand your predicament and since your wrenched countrymen depend solely on EU handouts the main thing in your mind is where the next meal is going to come from if the West goes bust.Now I was born in a Western country and if you don't like my BS please yourself and visit an Albania site instead of a Serbian one.The rest of your crap is what we hear from the Fox news.You talk about GDP which by all account is being manipulated in order to avoid default.Why don't you talk about debt?Russia is debt free whereas your beloved US:
http://usawatchdog.com/america-in-worse-fiscal-shape-than-detroit-professor-laurence-kotlikoff/
Back to Ukraine the crisis is about the neo-con scumbags and the bankrupt FED who've printed dollars into oblivion and bombed all Israel's sovereign neighbors into the last century in order to steal their gold and take over their resources. NOW they are out of cash to finance all their buying of politicians and Rent-A-Mob mercenary "rebels".The US is desperate to "hang on" to the "printed dollar" and petro-dollar so they can continue their warmongering, stealing, bribing, blackmailing, murdering, spying, drug-running, judge-fixing, gun-running and cover up their MASSIVE crimes against the people.
They've surrounded Russia, and Putin has no choice but to fight back.

i know a lot of Christian Albanians.

Of course you do considering the fact that 95% of Albanians in Kosovo have declared their religion as Islam.That leaves about 5% which probably refers to Christian Orthodox Serbs in the North of Kosovo.It's exactly the same argument employed by Albanians in Albania.Have you heard any Albanian describing the Greek Christian orthodox as such?No you haven't because according to Albanians they are Albanian orthodox.In the 2012 census in Albania-though shambles- 82% of the inhabitants declared themselves as Albanian the rest didn't. Yet according to Albanians there are no minorities in Albania.

BTW I am not denying that there could be some Albanians of the Christian Orthodox faith but their numbers are pretty tiny to support the validity of your arguments.

OK, don't take my word for it; come to Prishtina, come to Gjakova, come to Prizren,

I talk about statistics,the rest is just wishful thinking on your part.The latest census has shown that 95% of Albanians in Kosovo are of Islamic faith.I am sure you can work out what faith is the remainder 5%.
As to Albania many Greeks who lived under a repressive communist regime in S. Albania were forced to change their names and hide their identities (let alone that Albanian authorities, in violation of several treaties (ca 1913-14 etc) considered as Greek minority people only those who lived in certain areas, as designated by the Albanian authorities, and left out big chunks of minority Greeks by descent.It is natural that after 1990 many people of Greek origin felt free to declare their identity.But according to you and many other Albanians these people are just Albanian orthodox masquerading as Greeks. As for the recent Albanian census, you may have a look at the EU and Council of Europe reports to say the least, let alone much of Albanian media: people who carried out the census said to Albanian media that they filled in many questionnaire fields by themselves, including the ethnic and religious identity boxes. And let us not mention the ludicrous hefty fine set by the Albanian government for those who would dare cite a different ethnic identity to that stated in the official registry (which often dates back to the communist period of ‘free expression’).

by the way, you didn't address my other questions; can one be a Greek and a Muslim? can one be an atheist and a Greek? if I was to adopt the Orthodox faith, would I stop being Albanian? i see no reason why i could not be an Orthodox and Albanian, just like I see no reason why one couldn't be Muslim and Greek. religion may define your nationality for you, but it doesn't for us
(Nikolle, 21 March 2014 10:42)

Of course one can be Greek,atheist,Buddhist or Muslim and if there're any their numbers are pretty negligible.

Leonidas: I quote from you directly: "How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?" you did not add the qualifier Orthodox. I merely answered your question. as far as I know, to be Catholic is to be a Christian
(Nikolle, 23 March 2014 22:07)

If you start reading from the beginning of the paragraph you'll see I am talking about "Turkish Orthodox" & "Albanian Orthodox" Christians nevertheless it seems that you agree with my point about the non-existence of Albanian Christian Orthodox in Kosovo.

@Leonidas: I quote from you directly: "How many Christian Albanian do you really know of?" you did not add the qualifier Orthodox. I merely answered your question. as far as I know, to be Catholic is to be a Christian