"NATO opened Pandora's box in Kosovo"

Did you hear that my albanian friends in Kosovo.. Serbia's Southern occupied province. ..like I said before it's just a matter of time .... Kosovo je Srce serbije..

Who is going to argue that NATO's intervention stopped the war and brought about relative peace, which is much better than no peace at all?
(Nikolle, 14 March 2014 14:56)
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Now your parallels are truly bizzare. NATO started a war, it didn't stop one. There was no war prior to NATO aggression. Serbia was cracking down on KLA terrorism (as even reported by the OSCE) and NATO brought about a genocide where Albanians tried to ethnically cleans the provice of Serbs, not once but twice.

BTW, Crimea is Russia. It will be returned to Russia within a week without a bomb being dropped or a life being lost. A much more civilised way than NATO's death and destruction approach.

Of course NATO opened Pandora's box... But there was also no fear that NATO would be defeated by Yugoslavia so they intervened...
NATO and the West are too cowardly and too afraid to stand up to Russia... And Russia knows that. NATO only fights when it knows it can win...
As for Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Obama - I think that a jellyfish has more spine than the two of them put together.

Law is a guideline that society abides by so that we act and behave in a manner that is acceptable to society. Once we start making up our own rules, we end up with the consequences which today is crimea. Other examples include, Iraq, Libya, syria, afganistan hence the opposite of law is chaos. The UN is a great concept in theory, though theory is all it is. With the current crisis engulfing certain parts of the world, now is a good opportunity for Serbs to implement the western version of law as Russia has and make a move in rep srpska and nth kosovo

why don't you come and take it sunshine? no point waiting till you're a very old man, you won't have long to live after. you see, while you fantasize about taking it, i am living in it
(Nikolle, 14 March 2014 16:39)
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Wow you're so brave. Saying that while hiding behind NATO's skirts.

Nikolle

You albanians waited for the right time to snatch Kosovo from Serbia. You know very well that as long as Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo it will have a legal claim to it. You waited for the right time, serbs will wait for the right time to take it back. It surely wont happen any time soon, but it will happen.

@ nikolle we dont need Russia for that unlike you . needed nato & the us to steal Kosovo away from SERBIA

Ms.Angela is right when she said Chrimea can not be compared to Kosovo,since in Crimea o e pwer(Russians military) Inervined before scheduled(orchestrated or not) selfdeterminstion,while in Kosovo US intervined before scheduled kosovo albanians selfdetermination.Another dicference betwee them was that Crimean majority(russians)did not teririze minority while Kosovo majority terorized minority before Serbia military intervinef.That time liders of USA and NATO (without UN approvaol to attack Serbia )have created, - from legal point,a criminal entefrprisd worth of some law suit.But there will never be a brave serbian leader to bring zuch las suit against and prinmary eyewetness Ms.Angela predecessor.Guess who.

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"NATO and the West are too cowardly and too afraid to stand up to Russia"

define stand up. if your definition of standing up equates to starting a war (which would undoubtedly be nuclear) then its a good thing NATO is keeping council. on the other hand, there is diplomatic and economic pressure applied. by the same token though, Russia is afraid to stand up to NATO. after all, we are told that Serbia & Russia are joined to the hip, well, why doesn't Russia intervene to give holy Kosmet back to Serbia?

@ nikole

Hey sunshine relax a little bit and stop writing nonsense. We are waiting for the radiation do go down first then we will come.

Pandora's Box politicians strike again. Who is going to argue that NATO's intervention stopped the war and brought about relative peace, which is much better than no peace at all? In Crimea, we have a big bear, upset that a popular revolt has resulted in the overthrow of its puppet and so the bear has to flex its muscles. Unlike NATO's intervention, the one in Crimea, is totally unilateral, it is basically only one country as opposed to a host of them in 1999. If you want to take it further 3 of those states are permanent UNSCR members. Its truly bizarre the parallels people see.

Presenting the policy of the German government on Ukraine, Chancellor Angela Merkel said earlier on Thursday that the territorial integrity of Ukraine cannot be called into question, making it clear that Crimea "could not be compared to Kosovo."

Just by making the statement, it could be argued that Merkel acknowledged the comparison.

However If she persists in that they can not be compared I would argue that the Kosovo Seperatists were a narco mafia that started a war while the Russians in Crimea did not start a war, and just want their civil rights. In those terms, there is no comparison

Obama is a very smart man but in my opinion and the majority of Americans such as myself would be very dumb if he even talked about any sort of military action against a country like Russia armed with thousands of nuclear missiles.I do not hear Merkel threatening the people of Scotland with any sanctions if they choose to secede from the UK so why is she opening her mouth about the people of Crimea not having the right to secede?Russia knows it has nothing to fear militarily from NATO even if it annexes half of Ukraine but I do think it is sad to see Slavic peoples emphasizing their differences as opposed to their similarities because it is Kiev where the Russian identity was born.As a student of European history it is sad to see that French and Germans who are way more different from each other can cooperate but Russians and Ukrainians cannot.I think Putin is a very smart man but he will need to do what is good for the Russian people and not what Merkel or anybody else tells him to do

"Kosovo je Srce serbije.."

why don't you come and take it sunshine? no point waiting till you're a very old man, you won't have long to live after. you see, while you fantasize about taking it, i am living in it

This guy is paid too much for all these nonsense he is talking about....Noone is saying there is an ethnic cleansing in Crimea....organised by Ukranian state....I have said in the past if a country surpress "its own people" risk losing this people and the territory where they live in. That was scenario Kosovo and Serbia. That is not at all....Crimea and Ukraine. Russia is purely anexin that territory....as feels is a superpower....like Germany of Hitler....

Kosovo cannot be compared to Crimea. Gregor Gysi knows that but as a Leftist it is normal to have a Anti-Western stance.

Crimea is Russia. It will be returned to Russia within a week without a bomb being dropped or a life being lost.
(Zoran, 14 March 2014 18:32)

What happened to "re-integrate" North Kosovo to Serbia? I remember similar words from Serbs and now what happened. ...Ufff

The reality is that Russia shot into his own foot and soon you will see what that means. Just a hint: shares of Russian companies already dropped by 30%, the currency is declining as well, Southstream has been put on hold and we even did not started it yet.. ^^

Is he sure NATO opened Pandora's box in Kosovo? Putin waited long time to invade Crimea. He did it only after his puppet Viktor Yanukovych was chased from Kiev. Until then he had no problem with Crimea or any other part of Ukraine. I wonder when China invades Siberia one day will they remember to mention Kosovo too or maybe by then they instead they will mention Crimea!!! By the way if Crimea can become independent why can't Chechnya?

This article looks like those special mirrors where your feet make up 95% of the space and the rest of the body only 5%. I mean the title, the subtitle, and the first five paragraphs are about what one MP of one party said. While what the prime minister (the real policy maker) said, the one who really counts that is, is relegated only to the last paragraph.

Our Stasi politician from the Left party again. Nobody takes him serious, aside those who want to take him serious. But those people are even less relevant.

Zoran,
NATO reacted to the massive ethnic cleaning, murders and rapes in Kosovo. They tried to stop the repeat of Sarajevo, Vukovar etc. Almost 1.000.000 unarmed civilians were removed from their homes. If NATO did not interfere Albania would do so,possibly starting a Balkan wide war.By setting parallels with Crimea, Russia effectively sold Serbia. It's requiring something for a transaction that happened before, recognizing the new contract. This and the hitting up of the new cold war, it's very positive for Kosovo, now seen as part of Western zone of influence. As Nikolle stated, Kosovo is there, never moved. Go ahead and take it back if you wish.

The difference in a democracy and what Serbia and Russia claims is democracy.
This person in govt stands up and without fear expresses HIS belief in parliament eventhough it is contrary to widespread belief and totally against the policies of the state.
One has to wonder what would be the fate of an individual that stood before Serbian parliament and expressed condemnation of Serbs in their role in Kosovo and support for Kosovo independence, or if someone in parliament in Russia were to stand up and condemn the intervention in Crimea?

you make it sound as if this guy has influence in Germany. Rest ashured, he doesn't. He is the leader of the former Kommunist Party, and still has close ties to Russia. You conviently forgot to mention that. If you look at the popularity Gysi has in Germany, you will see that he is always at the bottom of the list, and he is one of the people who is not trusted and not liked very much in our country. Whatever he said, has no relevance, only reflects a small majortiy, even amongst the members of the party, 'Die Linke', his stance on Kosovo is being critized, for instance by May Byrn, a very prominent supporter of Kosovo in Gysis party. Nobody in Germany takes Gysi seriously, and your article misleads people that this is something people really believe in in this country.

P.S. Another thing you forgot to mention, is that Gysi's Party, which developed out of the former East German Communist Party, was the only party in the German parliment who thinks this way and used this argument in yesterdays parlimentary debate. All other German parties condemn his (Gysi's) unbalanced views concerning Kosovo and the reasons for Nato bombing of Serbia. Also the way Schroeder was celebrate here a few days ago, does not reflect what Germans think about him. They completly disagree with him, and Schroeder is seen as a trader and a lier. Yesterdays debate in Bundestag, which you refer to, showed that all parties, except the former Communist Party, Gysi's party, say, that Crimia and Kosovo are not comparable at all, because Serbia used methods of ethnic cleansing to get Albaniens out of Kosovo, which is a violation of international law and justifies foreign invention, even without UN approval. Furthermore the same was said and approved by the European parliment yesterday. Things which are conviently ignored in Serbia. You guys only fool yourself and believe what you want to believe in your blindness.

The west is caught in its own web of deceit - Oh what a tangled web we weave .....

Let's set the record straight - the NATO war agasinst Serbia was an illegal war without UN sanction and was a war of deceit as there was no ethnic cleansing though there was immense western political & media deceit - youc ouild say that Iraq war was a war based on deceit of WMG (Weapons of Mass Destruction that never existed) equally against Serbia in 99 it was a war based on deceit of WMG (Whereabouts of Mass Graves that never existed) these lies were peddled by the west they opened pandora's box & the Truth is there for all informed to see;


"In Kosovo the rebels deliberately set out to provoke an international intervention, which cost far more lives than it saved."

"The death toll in Kosovo was in the hundreds before the start of the bombing campaign. It was around 5,000 by the end. Not quite the "genocide" that some people claimed, incidentally, but not a good precedent either.

I was working at Amnesty International during the Kosovo crisis. I first visited refugee camps in Albania and Macedonia during the conflict and then spent a year in Pristina seconded into the UN High Commissioner for Refugees. Tony Blair says that we "reversed ethnic cleansing" there, but I would not count the expulsion of over 100,000 Serbs and Roma from a province guarded by 40,000 Nato troops as a success."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/apr/20/oliverkammvconorfoley

Zoran,
NATO reacted to the massive ethnic cleaning, murders and rapes in Kosovo. They tried to stop the repeat of Sarajevo, Vukovar etc. Almost 1.000.000 unarmed civilians were removed from their homes. If NATO did not interfere Albania would do so,possibly starting a Balkan wide war.
(Brandon, 14 March 2014 20:36)
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LOL! You've got some wires messed up in your head my friend. You obviously don't know your history. It was the Racak hoax that NATO used to justify bombing Serbia. There were not rapes, murders or ethnic cleansing. In fact, the only murders were those committed by the KLA against police and Serbs. You need to brush up on your history and read the OSCE report of the time, as they were calling the KLA terrorists.

The Serbs almost ended the terrorism, as Milosevic stated at the Hague. Now if the Serbs succeeded then we all know that means no camp bondsteel so NATO had to create this hoax, as it has done in other parts of the world, to justify intervention and cause the massive humanitarian catastrophy that occured.

It was only after NATO started bombing that people left KiM, and that included Serbs. I mean, who wants to live in a place that is being bombed. NATO bombed Albanian convoys, trains, hospitals, TV stations and civilian infrastructure, killing thousands of people.

Before NATOs bombing, we were just dealing with KLA terrorism. All Albanians were in their homes. Better if you don't spread your ignorance here.

Now that Russia agrees that minorities can decide about their own fate and hold a referendum about having independence, I'm curious how it will react should Chechnya do the same...

And if Russia wants to stay credible in its actions, they must recognize Kosovo next week - no, they should propose that Kosovo should join Albania :)

Zoran,
So let me get this straight. Albanians were never ethnically cleansed, they were just left due to NATO bombings. You Serbs did not do anything, never murdered them and put them in massive graves or refrigerated containers in the bottom of Belgrade river. Neither did you raped or chased the unarmed civilians pointing weapons towards them.Thousands of witnesses and hours of film footage showing different line of story, findings of Hague Tribunal,and simmilar such as atrocities committed in Croatia and Bosnia- are all lies. See,I might be ignorant to some issues, but I keep an open mind, try to learn and think critically. You, from what I gether, know everything and try to find arguments to support that knowledge. Good luck with that, and have a nice life.

Except Kosovo is not trying to become a part of Albania as Crimea is trying to become a part of Russia. What about Republika Serbska or Croatian Herzegovina? They aren't independent nations nor joint with their parent countries. One could use those examples why Crimea shouldn't either.

Zoran you have presented an indisputable resume of the Kosovo conflict. It only remains for that Nikolle to seek much needed history lessons and therapy regarding his/her illusions of Kosovan grandeur.

Except Kosovo is not trying to become a part of Albania as Crimea is trying to become a part of Russia.
(Jonny23, 14 March 2014 23:53)
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You sure about that? Albanians are trying to create Greater Albania to include all of KiM, some other parts of Serbia, Montenegro, FYROM and Greece. It is just that your western masters have said "Nein"!

The stakes are high. Albanians put all of their eggs in the one basket. Looks like it's going to be all or nothing. Lets not forget when Erdogen said "Kosovahh is Turkey". I think he has a point. ;)

Every time I see Serbians commenting in favor of Russia I get to roll my eyes in amazement .What happened to Kosovo 'breaking international law' by declaring independence. Doesn't look one tiny bit different, this from that. I guess now in order is that Russia formally recognizes Kosovo.

Serbian saying that Slobodan Milosevic had onced infamously quoted was:

"Lie has short legs" meaning is "Short lived" in Serbian translation.


Nato and EU have been finnaly caught out in its own web of lies and manipulations of the World order that no longer enjoy any integrity
on international level,it become laughing stock,many Countries wont admit
fearing for retribution,but it is clear as day ,they lost credibility once they enjoyed backed by their strong propaganda system...

Security Council,UN,OSCE... whatever...waste of time and money when the rules are not the same for everyone,all it did it served interest of NATO.

You have to remmember to get respect ,dignity,followers you need to earn it by being good example,all you did was bullied small Countries,changed goverments and caused wars for your own benefits.
Your hands are blooded,you are hypocretes,I hate wars cos inocent people pay the price usually and not the "few masterminders".

I am glad that finally Russia stod up to you all,you attacked my Country,
imposes sankctions,deprived my generation and next one of basic needs,torn ed and bombed my Country,lied to and disrespected agreement you wrote with your own hand.

Enough is enough,International law is joke now and it is thank to Kosovo pandora box you opened as disrespect of Security Council which doesnt exist any longer,it is now Nato against anyone who opposes it,not much difference then 1941.

Western Hypocrisy of Democracy!.

Krim belongs to the People of Crim and the Mayority of its Populace is not Ukrainian.

Now -

The Democratic(?)West is against that the People of Krim shall deside what Nation they want to belong to.

An oppinion in Harmony with Democrasy ?
Seems as the West is Shooting itself in the Foot.

The US has confessed that it will not accept the Will of the Krimean Peole.

The West will Loose !.

Arn.Sweden.

Ukraine will splinter into 2-3 pieces - just facts. Crimea and possibly a East-West Ukraine model. The only option would be a loose federation of three parts(with constitutive status and language rights for Russians)which can secede peacefully in the future, otherwise, beginning Sunday, the Ukraine will be far more different. I pray for a peaceful solution in the Ukraine, but realistically we all know the end will be very ugly.

You're right mate! What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What happened in Kosovo will happen in Crimea. If you let the Albanians have Kosovo then you must let Russia have the Crimea. The end result is the CHURCH wins!!!!

(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:06)

Cummon Zoran. Serbia stripped the autonomy of Kosovo in 1989 and started oppressing the Albanian population since then.

That's when things got started in Kosovo, not with Racak.

but hey. why do I bother. You know this already. you must.

You sure about that? Albanians are trying to create Greater Albania to include all of KiM, some other parts of Serbia, Montenegro, FYROM and Greece. It is just that your western masters have said "Nein"!
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:19)

But after Russia dumped (again) Serbia's cause, that project can now go ahead with Russia's arguments supporting it ....
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The stakes are high. Albanians put all of their eggs in the one basket.
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:19)

Yeah, Albanians should have put some eggs in the Serb basked, as well, since the well being of Kosovo is Serbia's top national priority :)

It was only after NATO started bombing that people left KiM
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:06)

You are saying "after" not "because"... even you know the truth :)

LOL!

How is this even news?

Gregor Gysi is a fringe Politician in the Bundestag, not to mention that he is of Russian stock and is a former member of the Stalinist SED. He was on the verge of becoming the Leader of East Germany (Soviet puppet state) after Egon Krenz before it collapsed in 1989. Is anyone surprised to hear a Russian stooge say such things?

BTW, Crimea is Russia. It will be returned to Russia within a week without a bomb being dropped or a life being lost. A much more civilised way than NATO's death and destruction approach.
(Zoran, 14 March 2014 18:32)

If that guy Slobodan had acted the same way as the Ukranian government, no death or destruction would have occurred in Serbia, too. But anyway, Kosovo welcomes the new that Crimea is Russia - clear indication that even Russia now supports Kosovo's cause. I really feel bad for Serbia that was sold (again) by Russia.

Hey Avni your a genius, with your coment about if Crimea why not Chechnya. That's the Pandora's box the kosovo issue opened!!!!

.I think Putin is a very smart man but he will need to do what is good for the Russian people and not what Merkel or anybody else tells him to do
(luciano, 14 March 2014 21:02)

If Putin were a smart man he would listen to Angela Merkel, but he does not give a damn about the Russian people. However, I think Putin will blink rather than annex Crimea since he knows that his personal wealth will drop precipitously and Russia will be bankrupt in a very short time. The West is prepared to tighten the screws on Russia. To be sure, draconian measures will be exacted on Russia without firing a single shot. Unfortunately, Serbia, indirectly, will experience more suffering if Russia acts aggressively toward the Ukraine.

"I mean the title, the subtitle, and the first five paragraphs are about what one MP of one party said. While what the prime minister (the real policy maker) said, the one who really counts that is, is relegated only to the last paragraph."
(Reader, 14 March 2014 15:28)

Maybe to add: And another MP and member of the same party (btw., this party is the successor of the former state party of East Germany) was glorifying Stalin, and said he was turning Russia into a modern state, ignoring the millions of people who died under his regime.

And of course Crimea cannot compared to Kosovo: Russia invaded it before there were any major atrocities against the minorities, NATO did it too later, to drive back Milosvic's troops and paramilitaries who vandalized the province. Both started with the parliament made up of a nationalist majority banning the minority language as official language.

Well, unlike what Russia is doing in Ukraine, US and other NATO countries didn't invade Kosovo and then asked its residents to vote at the barrel of the gun two weeks later as to whether they would love to be annexed. That's one difference between the 2 situations. Tells you the motivation by the two intervening parties is not the same.

BUT, If that doesn't convince you, then fine, you may draw the parallel. The majority of Crimeans are Russians, so they can join Russia or be independent as they please. I would like to take up Russians on this comparison since now that means they could not possibly have any objections to Kosovo joining Albania or being independent. Makes sense, right? As you say, what's good for the goose it's good for the gander. Now, I will await Russians announcement that they are thrilled to recognize the Independence of Kosovo.

And if Russia wants to stay credible in its actions, they must recognize Kosovo next week - no, they should propose that Kosovo should join Albania :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 March 2014 08:59)
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Russia's position on Kosovo is that it remains a part of Serbia and currently occupied by NATO forces. Not even the West have given the green light for "Kosovahhh"* to join Albania so why would Russia do it?

Kosovo declared independence against the constitution of Serbia, the same argument the West is using regarding Crimea. Why is it supporting "Kosovahhh"* but not Crimea?

LOL! Do you really think this has anything to do with credibility?

Anybody know where Ianny Uk at???
I hope he can still speak.

"NATO started a war, it didn't stop one. There was no war prior to NATO aggression."

yep, i expect nothing else from conspiracy theorists.

Before NATOs bombing, we were just dealing with KLA terrorism. All Albanians were in their homes. Better if you don't spread your ignorance here.
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:06
Either you were asleep like rip van winkle, totally ignorant, or in reality just a propaganda mouthpiece for a violent regime bent on the ethnic cleansing of a people by any means necessary.
Matters not because the world knows the truth and it is very very well documented and accepted. Even your famous "Dick Marty report" while attempting to bring to light the possiblilty of Albanian crimes that should be investigated (the conclusion of his report was simply that an investigation was warranted, not like many of you wish, that it actually happened), but stated that the horrendous of and brutal crusade of the Milosevic regime was very well documented.
End of Story!

You albanians waited for the right time to snatch Kosovo from Serbia. You know very well that as long as Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo it will have a legal claim to it.
(MikeC, 14 March 2014 20:58)

Of course, any country can make laws to establish legal claims about something under that country's domestic law... for example, Albania might make a law tomorrow that Moon is Albanian. So, under Albania's domestic law, Albania will have a legal claim to the Moon.

Now that Russia agrees that minorities can decide about their own fate and hold a referendum about having independence, I'm curious how it will react should Chechnya do the same...
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 March 2014 08:59)

http://jeremynicholl.photoshelter.com/gallery/The-Chechen-Tomb/G0000G_h3L8w1Jiw/
Any more dumb questions?

Hey Comm. Parrisson, you wanna see what Latvia and Croatia gonna look like in the near future?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/16/us-latvia-march-idUSBREA2F0KV20140316

@Peggy: MikeC, Ratko

none of you will leave to see your fantasy come true though will you? Tough break that eh?

Is anyone surprised to hear a Russian stooge say such things?
(Ian, UK, 17 March 2014 15:02)

Is anyone surprised that IanUK rubbishes the medium and not the message? No surprise at IanUK's continued broken record ramblings. Tradition.

Europe needs Russia more than Russia needs Europe - ENERGY. So draw your own conclusions. On the issue of hurting Russia with sanctions, I'd like to see that because Russia can hurt the US much more than the other way around. The US is in a very fragile state and its hoping to get consensus from Europe but there is not much of that despite all the hot air being expelled.

none of you will leave to see your fantasy come true though will you? Tough break that eh?
(Nikolle, 17 March 2014 11:11)


ha ha. ya. No kidding. These people are like centaur fetishits or something similar that's impossible.

Poor schmucks.

Wow you're so brave. Saying that while hiding behind NATO's skirts.
(Peggy, 14 March 2014 23:17)

Knin, 1995,....RUN! 4 days! End of the story!

The best German politician!

To be sure, draconian measures will be exacted on Russia without firing a single shot. Unfortunately, Serbia, indirectly, will experience more suffering if Russia acts aggressively toward the Ukraine

I sure hope the west will do that, the russian answer will be to cut of the gas and force the eu countrsie to return the hutndeds of millions of euros that russia borrowed them. I really hope that phey are that stupid. Next Winter will be veeeeery cold hahahh.

Principa, Gracanica, Kosovo I Metohija Serbia, 15 March 2014 06:42)
Thought your intention was to set the record straight? All you did was throw some Serbian manufactured numbers and denials together and call them the truth.
If you commit violence against me because you have a strong force behind you but when that force leaves you pull up roots and flee from fear of retribution since you are no longer protected. Have I cleansed you from the area? The Serbs that fled Kosovo after the bombing did just that

Get it Straight - or should that be "got it wrong"

" All you did was throw some Serbian manufactured numbers and denials together and call them the truth."
- actually if you had pressed the link you would have found is this is a comment from a UN humanitarian worker on the ground at the time who happens to not have an ounce of Serbian ethnicity and the article is from the Guardian a UK (western not Serbian) media publication!

Truth is NATO bombardment started before any mass movement and more deaths occurred as a consequence - this is fact you can not deny!

Now that the west opened Pandora's box its a bit hypocritical of them to wag their little finger at Russia for crimea

Pandora's Box politicians strike again. Who is going to argue that NATO's intervention stopped the war and brought about relative peace, which is much better than no peace at all? In Crimea, we have a big bear, upset that a popular revolt has resulted in the overthrow of its puppet and so the bear has to flex its muscles. Unlike NATO's intervention, the one in Crimea, is totally unilateral, it is basically only one country as opposed to a host of them in 1999. If you want to take it further 3 of those states are permanent UNSCR members. Its truly bizarre the parallels people see.

"Kosovo je Srce serbije.."

why don't you come and take it sunshine? no point waiting till you're a very old man, you won't have long to live after. you see, while you fantasize about taking it, i am living in it

This guy is paid too much for all these nonsense he is talking about....Noone is saying there is an ethnic cleansing in Crimea....organised by Ukranian state....I have said in the past if a country surpress "its own people" risk losing this people and the territory where they live in. That was scenario Kosovo and Serbia. That is not at all....Crimea and Ukraine. Russia is purely anexin that territory....as feels is a superpower....like Germany of Hitler....

"NATO and the West are too cowardly and too afraid to stand up to Russia"

define stand up. if your definition of standing up equates to starting a war (which would undoubtedly be nuclear) then its a good thing NATO is keeping council. on the other hand, there is diplomatic and economic pressure applied. by the same token though, Russia is afraid to stand up to NATO. after all, we are told that Serbia & Russia are joined to the hip, well, why doesn't Russia intervene to give holy Kosmet back to Serbia?

Zoran,
NATO reacted to the massive ethnic cleaning, murders and rapes in Kosovo. They tried to stop the repeat of Sarajevo, Vukovar etc. Almost 1.000.000 unarmed civilians were removed from their homes. If NATO did not interfere Albania would do so,possibly starting a Balkan wide war.By setting parallels with Crimea, Russia effectively sold Serbia. It's requiring something for a transaction that happened before, recognizing the new contract. This and the hitting up of the new cold war, it's very positive for Kosovo, now seen as part of Western zone of influence. As Nikolle stated, Kosovo is there, never moved. Go ahead and take it back if you wish.

P.S. Another thing you forgot to mention, is that Gysi's Party, which developed out of the former East German Communist Party, was the only party in the German parliment who thinks this way and used this argument in yesterdays parlimentary debate. All other German parties condemn his (Gysi's) unbalanced views concerning Kosovo and the reasons for Nato bombing of Serbia. Also the way Schroeder was celebrate here a few days ago, does not reflect what Germans think about him. They completly disagree with him, and Schroeder is seen as a trader and a lier. Yesterdays debate in Bundestag, which you refer to, showed that all parties, except the former Communist Party, Gysi's party, say, that Crimia and Kosovo are not comparable at all, because Serbia used methods of ethnic cleansing to get Albaniens out of Kosovo, which is a violation of international law and justifies foreign invention, even without UN approval. Furthermore the same was said and approved by the European parliment yesterday. Things which are conviently ignored in Serbia. You guys only fool yourself and believe what you want to believe in your blindness.

Is he sure NATO opened Pandora's box in Kosovo? Putin waited long time to invade Crimea. He did it only after his puppet Viktor Yanukovych was chased from Kiev. Until then he had no problem with Crimea or any other part of Ukraine. I wonder when China invades Siberia one day will they remember to mention Kosovo too or maybe by then they instead they will mention Crimea!!! By the way if Crimea can become independent why can't Chechnya?

Did you hear that my albanian friends in Kosovo.. Serbia's Southern occupied province. ..like I said before it's just a matter of time .... Kosovo je Srce serbije..

Kosovo cannot be compared to Crimea. Gregor Gysi knows that but as a Leftist it is normal to have a Anti-Western stance.

you make it sound as if this guy has influence in Germany. Rest ashured, he doesn't. He is the leader of the former Kommunist Party, and still has close ties to Russia. You conviently forgot to mention that. If you look at the popularity Gysi has in Germany, you will see that he is always at the bottom of the list, and he is one of the people who is not trusted and not liked very much in our country. Whatever he said, has no relevance, only reflects a small majortiy, even amongst the members of the party, 'Die Linke', his stance on Kosovo is being critized, for instance by May Byrn, a very prominent supporter of Kosovo in Gysis party. Nobody in Germany takes Gysi seriously, and your article misleads people that this is something people really believe in in this country.

Our Stasi politician from the Left party again. Nobody takes him serious, aside those who want to take him serious. But those people are even less relevant.

Crimea is Russia. It will be returned to Russia within a week without a bomb being dropped or a life being lost.
(Zoran, 14 March 2014 18:32)

What happened to "re-integrate" North Kosovo to Serbia? I remember similar words from Serbs and now what happened. ...Ufff

The reality is that Russia shot into his own foot and soon you will see what that means. Just a hint: shares of Russian companies already dropped by 30%, the currency is declining as well, Southstream has been put on hold and we even did not started it yet.. ^^

Ms.Angela is right when she said Chrimea can not be compared to Kosovo,since in Crimea o e pwer(Russians military) Inervined before scheduled(orchestrated or not) selfdeterminstion,while in Kosovo US intervined before scheduled kosovo albanians selfdetermination.Another dicference betwee them was that Crimean majority(russians)did not teririze minority while Kosovo majority terorized minority before Serbia military intervinef.That time liders of USA and NATO (without UN approvaol to attack Serbia )have created, - from legal point,a criminal entefrprisd worth of some law suit.But there will never be a brave serbian leader to bring zuch las suit against and prinmary eyewetness Ms.Angela predecessor.Guess who.

created

Of course NATO opened Pandora's box... But there was also no fear that NATO would be defeated by Yugoslavia so they intervened...
NATO and the West are too cowardly and too afraid to stand up to Russia... And Russia knows that. NATO only fights when it knows it can win...
As for Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Obama - I think that a jellyfish has more spine than the two of them put together.

Except Kosovo is not trying to become a part of Albania as Crimea is trying to become a part of Russia. What about Republika Serbska or Croatian Herzegovina? They aren't independent nations nor joint with their parent countries. One could use those examples why Crimea shouldn't either.

Who is going to argue that NATO's intervention stopped the war and brought about relative peace, which is much better than no peace at all?
(Nikolle, 14 March 2014 14:56)
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Now your parallels are truly bizzare. NATO started a war, it didn't stop one. There was no war prior to NATO aggression. Serbia was cracking down on KLA terrorism (as even reported by the OSCE) and NATO brought about a genocide where Albanians tried to ethnically cleans the provice of Serbs, not once but twice.

BTW, Crimea is Russia. It will be returned to Russia within a week without a bomb being dropped or a life being lost. A much more civilised way than NATO's death and destruction approach.

This article looks like those special mirrors where your feet make up 95% of the space and the rest of the body only 5%. I mean the title, the subtitle, and the first five paragraphs are about what one MP of one party said. While what the prime minister (the real policy maker) said, the one who really counts that is, is relegated only to the last paragraph.

Law is a guideline that society abides by so that we act and behave in a manner that is acceptable to society. Once we start making up our own rules, we end up with the consequences which today is crimea. Other examples include, Iraq, Libya, syria, afganistan hence the opposite of law is chaos. The UN is a great concept in theory, though theory is all it is. With the current crisis engulfing certain parts of the world, now is a good opportunity for Serbs to implement the western version of law as Russia has and make a move in rep srpska and nth kosovo

@ nikolle we dont need Russia for that unlike you . needed nato & the us to steal Kosovo away from SERBIA

The difference in a democracy and what Serbia and Russia claims is democracy.
This person in govt stands up and without fear expresses HIS belief in parliament eventhough it is contrary to widespread belief and totally against the policies of the state.
One has to wonder what would be the fate of an individual that stood before Serbian parliament and expressed condemnation of Serbs in their role in Kosovo and support for Kosovo independence, or if someone in parliament in Russia were to stand up and condemn the intervention in Crimea?

Presenting the policy of the German government on Ukraine, Chancellor Angela Merkel said earlier on Thursday that the territorial integrity of Ukraine cannot be called into question, making it clear that Crimea "could not be compared to Kosovo."

Just by making the statement, it could be argued that Merkel acknowledged the comparison.

However If she persists in that they can not be compared I would argue that the Kosovo Seperatists were a narco mafia that started a war while the Russians in Crimea did not start a war, and just want their civil rights. In those terms, there is no comparison

why don't you come and take it sunshine? no point waiting till you're a very old man, you won't have long to live after. you see, while you fantasize about taking it, i am living in it
(Nikolle, 14 March 2014 16:39)
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Wow you're so brave. Saying that while hiding behind NATO's skirts.

Nikolle

You albanians waited for the right time to snatch Kosovo from Serbia. You know very well that as long as Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo it will have a legal claim to it. You waited for the right time, serbs will wait for the right time to take it back. It surely wont happen any time soon, but it will happen.

You albanians waited for the right time to snatch Kosovo from Serbia. You know very well that as long as Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo it will have a legal claim to it.
(MikeC, 14 March 2014 20:58)

Of course, any country can make laws to establish legal claims about something under that country's domestic law... for example, Albania might make a law tomorrow that Moon is Albanian. So, under Albania's domestic law, Albania will have a legal claim to the Moon.

Now that Russia agrees that minorities can decide about their own fate and hold a referendum about having independence, I'm curious how it will react should Chechnya do the same...

And if Russia wants to stay credible in its actions, they must recognize Kosovo next week - no, they should propose that Kosovo should join Albania :)

@ nikole

Hey sunshine relax a little bit and stop writing nonsense. We are waiting for the radiation do go down first then we will come.

Wow you're so brave. Saying that while hiding behind NATO's skirts.
(Peggy, 14 March 2014 23:17)

Knin, 1995,....RUN! 4 days! End of the story!

BTW, Crimea is Russia. It will be returned to Russia within a week without a bomb being dropped or a life being lost. A much more civilised way than NATO's death and destruction approach.
(Zoran, 14 March 2014 18:32)

If that guy Slobodan had acted the same way as the Ukranian government, no death or destruction would have occurred in Serbia, too. But anyway, Kosovo welcomes the new that Crimea is Russia - clear indication that even Russia now supports Kosovo's cause. I really feel bad for Serbia that was sold (again) by Russia.

.I think Putin is a very smart man but he will need to do what is good for the Russian people and not what Merkel or anybody else tells him to do
(luciano, 14 March 2014 21:02)

If Putin were a smart man he would listen to Angela Merkel, but he does not give a damn about the Russian people. However, I think Putin will blink rather than annex Crimea since he knows that his personal wealth will drop precipitously and Russia will be bankrupt in a very short time. The West is prepared to tighten the screws on Russia. To be sure, draconian measures will be exacted on Russia without firing a single shot. Unfortunately, Serbia, indirectly, will experience more suffering if Russia acts aggressively toward the Ukraine.

Zoran,
NATO reacted to the massive ethnic cleaning, murders and rapes in Kosovo. They tried to stop the repeat of Sarajevo, Vukovar etc. Almost 1.000.000 unarmed civilians were removed from their homes. If NATO did not interfere Albania would do so,possibly starting a Balkan wide war.
(Brandon, 14 March 2014 20:36)
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LOL! You've got some wires messed up in your head my friend. You obviously don't know your history. It was the Racak hoax that NATO used to justify bombing Serbia. There were not rapes, murders or ethnic cleansing. In fact, the only murders were those committed by the KLA against police and Serbs. You need to brush up on your history and read the OSCE report of the time, as they were calling the KLA terrorists.

The Serbs almost ended the terrorism, as Milosevic stated at the Hague. Now if the Serbs succeeded then we all know that means no camp bondsteel so NATO had to create this hoax, as it has done in other parts of the world, to justify intervention and cause the massive humanitarian catastrophy that occured.

It was only after NATO started bombing that people left KiM, and that included Serbs. I mean, who wants to live in a place that is being bombed. NATO bombed Albanian convoys, trains, hospitals, TV stations and civilian infrastructure, killing thousands of people.

Before NATOs bombing, we were just dealing with KLA terrorism. All Albanians were in their homes. Better if you don't spread your ignorance here.

"I mean the title, the subtitle, and the first five paragraphs are about what one MP of one party said. While what the prime minister (the real policy maker) said, the one who really counts that is, is relegated only to the last paragraph."
(Reader, 14 March 2014 15:28)

Maybe to add: And another MP and member of the same party (btw., this party is the successor of the former state party of East Germany) was glorifying Stalin, and said he was turning Russia into a modern state, ignoring the millions of people who died under his regime.

And of course Crimea cannot compared to Kosovo: Russia invaded it before there were any major atrocities against the minorities, NATO did it too later, to drive back Milosvic's troops and paramilitaries who vandalized the province. Both started with the parliament made up of a nationalist majority banning the minority language as official language.

Is anyone surprised to hear a Russian stooge say such things?
(Ian, UK, 17 March 2014 15:02)

Is anyone surprised that IanUK rubbishes the medium and not the message? No surprise at IanUK's continued broken record ramblings. Tradition.

Obama is a very smart man but in my opinion and the majority of Americans such as myself would be very dumb if he even talked about any sort of military action against a country like Russia armed with thousands of nuclear missiles.I do not hear Merkel threatening the people of Scotland with any sanctions if they choose to secede from the UK so why is she opening her mouth about the people of Crimea not having the right to secede?Russia knows it has nothing to fear militarily from NATO even if it annexes half of Ukraine but I do think it is sad to see Slavic peoples emphasizing their differences as opposed to their similarities because it is Kiev where the Russian identity was born.As a student of European history it is sad to see that French and Germans who are way more different from each other can cooperate but Russians and Ukrainians cannot.I think Putin is a very smart man but he will need to do what is good for the Russian people and not what Merkel or anybody else tells him to do

Except Kosovo is not trying to become a part of Albania as Crimea is trying to become a part of Russia.
(Jonny23, 14 March 2014 23:53)
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You sure about that? Albanians are trying to create Greater Albania to include all of KiM, some other parts of Serbia, Montenegro, FYROM and Greece. It is just that your western masters have said "Nein"!

The stakes are high. Albanians put all of their eggs in the one basket. Looks like it's going to be all or nothing. Lets not forget when Erdogen said "Kosovahh is Turkey". I think he has a point. ;)

Zoran,
So let me get this straight. Albanians were never ethnically cleansed, they were just left due to NATO bombings. You Serbs did not do anything, never murdered them and put them in massive graves or refrigerated containers in the bottom of Belgrade river. Neither did you raped or chased the unarmed civilians pointing weapons towards them.Thousands of witnesses and hours of film footage showing different line of story, findings of Hague Tribunal,and simmilar such as atrocities committed in Croatia and Bosnia- are all lies. See,I might be ignorant to some issues, but I keep an open mind, try to learn and think critically. You, from what I gether, know everything and try to find arguments to support that knowledge. Good luck with that, and have a nice life.

The best German politician!

LOL!

How is this even news?

Gregor Gysi is a fringe Politician in the Bundestag, not to mention that he is of Russian stock and is a former member of the Stalinist SED. He was on the verge of becoming the Leader of East Germany (Soviet puppet state) after Egon Krenz before it collapsed in 1989. Is anyone surprised to hear a Russian stooge say such things?

Zoran you have presented an indisputable resume of the Kosovo conflict. It only remains for that Nikolle to seek much needed history lessons and therapy regarding his/her illusions of Kosovan grandeur.

Well, unlike what Russia is doing in Ukraine, US and other NATO countries didn't invade Kosovo and then asked its residents to vote at the barrel of the gun two weeks later as to whether they would love to be annexed. That's one difference between the 2 situations. Tells you the motivation by the two intervening parties is not the same.

BUT, If that doesn't convince you, then fine, you may draw the parallel. The majority of Crimeans are Russians, so they can join Russia or be independent as they please. I would like to take up Russians on this comparison since now that means they could not possibly have any objections to Kosovo joining Albania or being independent. Makes sense, right? As you say, what's good for the goose it's good for the gander. Now, I will await Russians announcement that they are thrilled to recognize the Independence of Kosovo.

(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:06)

Cummon Zoran. Serbia stripped the autonomy of Kosovo in 1989 and started oppressing the Albanian population since then.

That's when things got started in Kosovo, not with Racak.

but hey. why do I bother. You know this already. you must.

@Peggy: MikeC, Ratko

none of you will leave to see your fantasy come true though will you? Tough break that eh?

Europe needs Russia more than Russia needs Europe - ENERGY. So draw your own conclusions. On the issue of hurting Russia with sanctions, I'd like to see that because Russia can hurt the US much more than the other way around. The US is in a very fragile state and its hoping to get consensus from Europe but there is not much of that despite all the hot air being expelled.

The west is caught in its own web of deceit - Oh what a tangled web we weave .....

Let's set the record straight - the NATO war agasinst Serbia was an illegal war without UN sanction and was a war of deceit as there was no ethnic cleansing though there was immense western political & media deceit - youc ouild say that Iraq war was a war based on deceit of WMG (Weapons of Mass Destruction that never existed) equally against Serbia in 99 it was a war based on deceit of WMG (Whereabouts of Mass Graves that never existed) these lies were peddled by the west they opened pandora's box & the Truth is there for all informed to see;


"In Kosovo the rebels deliberately set out to provoke an international intervention, which cost far more lives than it saved."

"The death toll in Kosovo was in the hundreds before the start of the bombing campaign. It was around 5,000 by the end. Not quite the "genocide" that some people claimed, incidentally, but not a good precedent either.

I was working at Amnesty International during the Kosovo crisis. I first visited refugee camps in Albania and Macedonia during the conflict and then spent a year in Pristina seconded into the UN High Commissioner for Refugees. Tony Blair says that we "reversed ethnic cleansing" there, but I would not count the expulsion of over 100,000 Serbs and Roma from a province guarded by 40,000 Nato troops as a success."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/apr/20/oliverkammvconorfoley

Serbian saying that Slobodan Milosevic had onced infamously quoted was:

"Lie has short legs" meaning is "Short lived" in Serbian translation.


Nato and EU have been finnaly caught out in its own web of lies and manipulations of the World order that no longer enjoy any integrity
on international level,it become laughing stock,many Countries wont admit
fearing for retribution,but it is clear as day ,they lost credibility once they enjoyed backed by their strong propaganda system...

Security Council,UN,OSCE... whatever...waste of time and money when the rules are not the same for everyone,all it did it served interest of NATO.

You have to remmember to get respect ,dignity,followers you need to earn it by being good example,all you did was bullied small Countries,changed goverments and caused wars for your own benefits.
Your hands are blooded,you are hypocretes,I hate wars cos inocent people pay the price usually and not the "few masterminders".

I am glad that finally Russia stod up to you all,you attacked my Country,
imposes sankctions,deprived my generation and next one of basic needs,torn ed and bombed my Country,lied to and disrespected agreement you wrote with your own hand.

Enough is enough,International law is joke now and it is thank to Kosovo pandora box you opened as disrespect of Security Council which doesnt exist any longer,it is now Nato against anyone who opposes it,not much difference then 1941.

And if Russia wants to stay credible in its actions, they must recognize Kosovo next week - no, they should propose that Kosovo should join Albania :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 March 2014 08:59)
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Russia's position on Kosovo is that it remains a part of Serbia and currently occupied by NATO forces. Not even the West have given the green light for "Kosovahhh"* to join Albania so why would Russia do it?

Kosovo declared independence against the constitution of Serbia, the same argument the West is using regarding Crimea. Why is it supporting "Kosovahhh"* but not Crimea?

LOL! Do you really think this has anything to do with credibility?

You sure about that? Albanians are trying to create Greater Albania to include all of KiM, some other parts of Serbia, Montenegro, FYROM and Greece. It is just that your western masters have said "Nein"!
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:19)

But after Russia dumped (again) Serbia's cause, that project can now go ahead with Russia's arguments supporting it ....
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The stakes are high. Albanians put all of their eggs in the one basket.
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:19)

Yeah, Albanians should have put some eggs in the Serb basked, as well, since the well being of Kosovo is Serbia's top national priority :)

It was only after NATO started bombing that people left KiM
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:06)

You are saying "after" not "because"... even you know the truth :)

"NATO started a war, it didn't stop one. There was no war prior to NATO aggression."

yep, i expect nothing else from conspiracy theorists.

none of you will leave to see your fantasy come true though will you? Tough break that eh?
(Nikolle, 17 March 2014 11:11)


ha ha. ya. No kidding. These people are like centaur fetishits or something similar that's impossible.

Poor schmucks.

Before NATOs bombing, we were just dealing with KLA terrorism. All Albanians were in their homes. Better if you don't spread your ignorance here.
(Zoran, 15 March 2014 20:06
Either you were asleep like rip van winkle, totally ignorant, or in reality just a propaganda mouthpiece for a violent regime bent on the ethnic cleansing of a people by any means necessary.
Matters not because the world knows the truth and it is very very well documented and accepted. Even your famous "Dick Marty report" while attempting to bring to light the possiblilty of Albanian crimes that should be investigated (the conclusion of his report was simply that an investigation was warranted, not like many of you wish, that it actually happened), but stated that the horrendous of and brutal crusade of the Milosevic regime was very well documented.
End of Story!

Hey Avni your a genius, with your coment about if Crimea why not Chechnya. That's the Pandora's box the kosovo issue opened!!!!

Anybody know where Ianny Uk at???
I hope he can still speak.

Now that Russia agrees that minorities can decide about their own fate and hold a referendum about having independence, I'm curious how it will react should Chechnya do the same...
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 March 2014 08:59)

http://jeremynicholl.photoshelter.com/gallery/The-Chechen-Tomb/G0000G_h3L8w1Jiw/
Any more dumb questions?

Hey Comm. Parrisson, you wanna see what Latvia and Croatia gonna look like in the near future?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/16/us-latvia-march-idUSBREA2F0KV20140316

Every time I see Serbians commenting in favor of Russia I get to roll my eyes in amazement .What happened to Kosovo 'breaking international law' by declaring independence. Doesn't look one tiny bit different, this from that. I guess now in order is that Russia formally recognizes Kosovo.

To be sure, draconian measures will be exacted on Russia without firing a single shot. Unfortunately, Serbia, indirectly, will experience more suffering if Russia acts aggressively toward the Ukraine

I sure hope the west will do that, the russian answer will be to cut of the gas and force the eu countrsie to return the hutndeds of millions of euros that russia borrowed them. I really hope that phey are that stupid. Next Winter will be veeeeery cold hahahh.

You're right mate! What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What happened in Kosovo will happen in Crimea. If you let the Albanians have Kosovo then you must let Russia have the Crimea. The end result is the CHURCH wins!!!!

Western Hypocrisy of Democracy!.

Krim belongs to the People of Crim and the Mayority of its Populace is not Ukrainian.

Now -

The Democratic(?)West is against that the People of Krim shall deside what Nation they want to belong to.

An oppinion in Harmony with Democrasy ?
Seems as the West is Shooting itself in the Foot.

The US has confessed that it will not accept the Will of the Krimean Peole.

The West will Loose !.

Arn.Sweden.

Ukraine will splinter into 2-3 pieces - just facts. Crimea and possibly a East-West Ukraine model. The only option would be a loose federation of three parts(with constitutive status and language rights for Russians)which can secede peacefully in the future, otherwise, beginning Sunday, the Ukraine will be far more different. I pray for a peaceful solution in the Ukraine, but realistically we all know the end will be very ugly.

Principa, Gracanica, Kosovo I Metohija Serbia, 15 March 2014 06:42)
Thought your intention was to set the record straight? All you did was throw some Serbian manufactured numbers and denials together and call them the truth.
If you commit violence against me because you have a strong force behind you but when that force leaves you pull up roots and flee from fear of retribution since you are no longer protected. Have I cleansed you from the area? The Serbs that fled Kosovo after the bombing did just that

Get it Straight - or should that be "got it wrong"

" All you did was throw some Serbian manufactured numbers and denials together and call them the truth."
- actually if you had pressed the link you would have found is this is a comment from a UN humanitarian worker on the ground at the time who happens to not have an ounce of Serbian ethnicity and the article is from the Guardian a UK (western not Serbian) media publication!

Truth is NATO bombardment started before any mass movement and more deaths occurred as a consequence - this is fact you can not deny!

Now that the west opened Pandora's box its a bit hypocritical of them to wag their little finger at Russia for crimea