Ukrainian embassy "surprised" by Dodik's pro-Russian stance

Dodik is utmost Russia friendly politician. I love him. I would like to see him at the head of the united Serbia. I mean the country no the party.

Dodik is not doing the RS any favors picking sides in what could become a civil war between our Orthodox brothers. We should pray for peace and remain neutral and we should not goad or interfere as the west does.

Talking out of both sides of his mouth. Which principle is it:
1. Territorial integrity?
2. Might makes right?
3. Self-determination?
4. Russians and Serbs are angels, and all the rest are Nazis?

Of all the Serb politicians today Milorad Dodik is the most capable. This guy may not appear to be much but he is one hell of a strategist that has outmanoeuvred every EU high rep and all the rest in Bosnia.
Dodik has that unique ability of foresight and supporting the Russians shows you the brilliance of the man. Russia, much to my delight, has now taken back Crimea and it will never see the light of day in Ukraine again. With the taking if Crimea Russia now controls all of the Black Sea and entrance to the Danube, sits at NATO’s backdoor and will control Turkey together with that entire region.
Dodik rejoices, as most Serbs do, because this means a change of power in Europe – out with the US and in with Russia.
These are realities on the ground not fairy tales like the west keeps telling their people of their greatness only to be proven wrong and publicly embarrassed at critical points.
I hope Dodik runs for office in a united Serbia which will not be too long once Moscow takes over and believe me they will – I watched John Kerry last night at the same table with Lavarov; Kerry out classed completely.

Dodik is not doing the RS any favors picking sides in what could become a civil war between our Orthodox brothers. We should pray for peace and remain neutral and we should not goad or interfere as the west does.
(marKo, 6 March 2014 16:35)
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Yep, they are as Orthodox as the Macedonians.
RS is not interering but I would support Russians any time before the Ukranians. Sort of like supporting Serbs before Macedonians who think that Serbian church is to be discarded and a Macedonian one set up even though nobody elese will accept it.
So what exactly makes Ukranians or Macdonians our brothers when they clearly tell us they prefer to break away from the family?

Of all the Serb politicians today Milorad Dodik is the most capable. This guy may not appear to be much but he is one hell of a strategist that has outmanoeuvred every EU high rep and all the rest in Bosnia.

sj, Dodik is too small of a fish for anyone outside of Bosnia to give a sh..t about him. Nobody has the time to waste it on what a village fool is saying. It's not smartness; it has more to do with him being insignificant.

Ukrainian embassy should know by now that Dodik is talk only.

To answer your Questions, there are three groups that claim to be Orthodox in the Ukraine. The largest group is legitimate and canonical, it is the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate). The other two are in schism led by tricksters who fool good people into folowing them by exploiting their patriotic feelings. In addition there are Roman Catholics, and Uniates as was mentioned below.

In any case Ukrainian Orthodox (the majority of which are in good standing) do not want their Country to be ruled by Nazis, or to be split up, or to be ruled by another country. We can all agree that they didn't start this, they didn't march with the Fascists. We can all agree that they are being forced to take sides, even though they have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Furthermore, Both Russia and the Ukraine are traditional Orthodox nations, we can't pick sides based on which nation can do more for us.

A Dodo we will have to close the criminal Serb minority idiotic fantasy in Bosnia aka greater Serbia criminal fantasy. Love the Serbs making freinds every where by just opening thier own big mouth traps. It will be a tit for tat then again Serbs are use to being losers. I could just imagine if Serbia had a border with Russia the two would be at each other throats in no time both are criminaly insane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlA35y0bGQc idiots. Serbia you have to claim Siberia sounds all most the same. Their is probbably a few Serbs their that clinches it. Maybe all of Russia even much more Serbs their that is all the Serbs need as proof Serbia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x29xR8iUt_k do Tokoyo.

Dodik is a Serbian idiot. With this stance he is doing more harm to the Serbian cause in Serbia and Bosnia & Herzegovina than he knows. This is a typical case of Communict solodarity which existed in Europe 30 years ago. I hope that he will one day rot in hell.

There is no future for the Slavic Peoples with EU.
God has another Future for them,
even unification.

Arn.Sweden.

marco, please explain why you think that the conflict has orthodox believers on either side. The uniate orthodox church is the Catholic church. Are there Russians on either side of the conflict?

Dodik is utmost Russia friendly politician. I love him. I would like to see him at the head of the united Serbia. I mean the country no the party.
(rote, 6 March 2014 17:10)

In these evil, treacherous, tumultuous, and lawless times, I recommend Al Swearingen for the post.
A man that talks the talk and walks the walk. An abhorrer of corrupt politicians and their ilk, defender of the
female sex, champion of the free press, and most admirable of all, he doesn't sit in judgement over his fellow man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJFOf5RBQ-8

If y'all prefer a member of the fairer sex for the position, I hereby recommend Martha Jane Canary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoqmNZtOeQ

Let's all set our egos aside and take a stance on being pro peace.

Because the "Ukrainian" embassy is not legitimate or authoritative until the Western Ukraine power vacuum is resolved, its comments are not really important. It does not speak for the Ukraine. Dodik probably speaks for as many Ukrainians as the coup leaders. All events on the ground seem to confirm.

Because the "Ukrainian" embassy is not legitimate or authoritative until the Western Ukraine power vacuum is resolved, its comments are not really important. It does not speak for the Ukraine. Dodik probably speaks for as many Ukrainians as the coup leaders. All events on the ground seem to confirm.
(Leo, 7 March 2014 12:26)

Well, the "Ukrainian" embassy speaks for the vast majority of Ukraine's parliament democratically elected (nobody disputes that, not even Russia) by the Ukrainian people. Who did elect you or Dodik to speak on behalf of the Ukrainians?! Some people here have very bizarre concepts on when somebody can speak on behalf of somebody else :)

Marko, from Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ukraine

"14.9 percent of believers identify themselves with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Kyiv Patriarchate;
10.9 percent are adherents of Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) (which has the largest number of churches in Ukraine and claims up to 75% of the Ukrainian population[4]);
5.3 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church (sometimes referred to as the Uniate, Byzantine, or Eastern Rite Church);
1.0 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church;
0.6 percent belonged to the Roman Catholic Church;"

Here is my guess of the situation. Those who have seized power in Kiev are Uniate or Catholic and their followers are with the Kyiv Patriarchate. These dominate in the West. Opposition and those who have taken Crimea are of the Moscow Patriarchate. These dominate in the East.

I would also guess that similar partitions occur during the Nazi occupation and earlier in the Holodomor.

English news sites have shown Russian supporters with flags featuring the hammer and sickle. This is a little confusing. I'm pretty sure that the Communist Party is as good as dead in the Russian Federation.

The Serbian Orthodox church is autocephalous.

Marko, from Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ukraine

"14.9 percent of believers identify themselves with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Kyiv Patriarchate;
10.9 percent are adherents of Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) (which has the largest number of churches in Ukraine and claims up to 75% of the Ukrainian population[4]);
5.3 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church (sometimes referred to as the Uniate, Byzantine, or Eastern Rite Church);
1.0 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church;
0.6 percent belonged to the Roman Catholic Church;"

Here is my guess of the situation. Those who have seized power in Kiev are Uniate or Catholic and their followers are with the Kyiv Patriarchate. These dominate in the West. Opposition and those who have taken Crimea are of the Moscow Patriarchate. These dominate in the East.

I would also guess that similar partitions occur during the Nazi occupation and earlier in the Holodomor.

English news sites have shown Russian supporters with flags featuring the hammer and sickle. This is a little confusing. I'm pretty sure that the Communist Party is as good as dead in the Russian Federation.

What about Serbian Orthodox? Are they Autocephalous or of some Patriarchate, or what?

Dodik is not doing the RS any favors picking sides in what could become a civil war between our Orthodox brothers. We should pray for peace and remain neutral and we should not goad or interfere as the west does.

Dodik is utmost Russia friendly politician. I love him. I would like to see him at the head of the united Serbia. I mean the country no the party.

Talking out of both sides of his mouth. Which principle is it:
1. Territorial integrity?
2. Might makes right?
3. Self-determination?
4. Russians and Serbs are angels, and all the rest are Nazis?

Of all the Serb politicians today Milorad Dodik is the most capable. This guy may not appear to be much but he is one hell of a strategist that has outmanoeuvred every EU high rep and all the rest in Bosnia.
Dodik has that unique ability of foresight and supporting the Russians shows you the brilliance of the man. Russia, much to my delight, has now taken back Crimea and it will never see the light of day in Ukraine again. With the taking if Crimea Russia now controls all of the Black Sea and entrance to the Danube, sits at NATO’s backdoor and will control Turkey together with that entire region.
Dodik rejoices, as most Serbs do, because this means a change of power in Europe – out with the US and in with Russia.
These are realities on the ground not fairy tales like the west keeps telling their people of their greatness only to be proven wrong and publicly embarrassed at critical points.
I hope Dodik runs for office in a united Serbia which will not be too long once Moscow takes over and believe me they will – I watched John Kerry last night at the same table with Lavarov; Kerry out classed completely.

Dodik is not doing the RS any favors picking sides in what could become a civil war between our Orthodox brothers. We should pray for peace and remain neutral and we should not goad or interfere as the west does.
(marKo, 6 March 2014 16:35)
========================================
Yep, they are as Orthodox as the Macedonians.
RS is not interering but I would support Russians any time before the Ukranians. Sort of like supporting Serbs before Macedonians who think that Serbian church is to be discarded and a Macedonian one set up even though nobody elese will accept it.
So what exactly makes Ukranians or Macdonians our brothers when they clearly tell us they prefer to break away from the family?

A Dodo we will have to close the criminal Serb minority idiotic fantasy in Bosnia aka greater Serbia criminal fantasy. Love the Serbs making freinds every where by just opening thier own big mouth traps. It will be a tit for tat then again Serbs are use to being losers. I could just imagine if Serbia had a border with Russia the two would be at each other throats in no time both are criminaly insane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlA35y0bGQc idiots. Serbia you have to claim Siberia sounds all most the same. Their is probbably a few Serbs their that clinches it. Maybe all of Russia even much more Serbs their that is all the Serbs need as proof Serbia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x29xR8iUt_k do Tokoyo.

Dodik is a Serbian idiot. With this stance he is doing more harm to the Serbian cause in Serbia and Bosnia & Herzegovina than he knows. This is a typical case of Communict solodarity which existed in Europe 30 years ago. I hope that he will one day rot in hell.

There is no future for the Slavic Peoples with EU.
God has another Future for them,
even unification.

Arn.Sweden.

Because the "Ukrainian" embassy is not legitimate or authoritative until the Western Ukraine power vacuum is resolved, its comments are not really important. It does not speak for the Ukraine. Dodik probably speaks for as many Ukrainians as the coup leaders. All events on the ground seem to confirm.

Ukrainian embassy should know by now that Dodik is talk only.

Of all the Serb politicians today Milorad Dodik is the most capable. This guy may not appear to be much but he is one hell of a strategist that has outmanoeuvred every EU high rep and all the rest in Bosnia.

sj, Dodik is too small of a fish for anyone outside of Bosnia to give a sh..t about him. Nobody has the time to waste it on what a village fool is saying. It's not smartness; it has more to do with him being insignificant.

Dodik is utmost Russia friendly politician. I love him. I would like to see him at the head of the united Serbia. I mean the country no the party.
(rote, 6 March 2014 17:10)

In these evil, treacherous, tumultuous, and lawless times, I recommend Al Swearingen for the post.
A man that talks the talk and walks the walk. An abhorrer of corrupt politicians and their ilk, defender of the
female sex, champion of the free press, and most admirable of all, he doesn't sit in judgement over his fellow man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJFOf5RBQ-8

If y'all prefer a member of the fairer sex for the position, I hereby recommend Martha Jane Canary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoqmNZtOeQ

marco, please explain why you think that the conflict has orthodox believers on either side. The uniate orthodox church is the Catholic church. Are there Russians on either side of the conflict?

To answer your Questions, there are three groups that claim to be Orthodox in the Ukraine. The largest group is legitimate and canonical, it is the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate). The other two are in schism led by tricksters who fool good people into folowing them by exploiting their patriotic feelings. In addition there are Roman Catholics, and Uniates as was mentioned below.

In any case Ukrainian Orthodox (the majority of which are in good standing) do not want their Country to be ruled by Nazis, or to be split up, or to be ruled by another country. We can all agree that they didn't start this, they didn't march with the Fascists. We can all agree that they are being forced to take sides, even though they have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Furthermore, Both Russia and the Ukraine are traditional Orthodox nations, we can't pick sides based on which nation can do more for us.

Let's all set our egos aside and take a stance on being pro peace.

Marko, from Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ukraine

"14.9 percent of believers identify themselves with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Kyiv Patriarchate;
10.9 percent are adherents of Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) (which has the largest number of churches in Ukraine and claims up to 75% of the Ukrainian population[4]);
5.3 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church (sometimes referred to as the Uniate, Byzantine, or Eastern Rite Church);
1.0 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church;
0.6 percent belonged to the Roman Catholic Church;"

Here is my guess of the situation. Those who have seized power in Kiev are Uniate or Catholic and their followers are with the Kyiv Patriarchate. These dominate in the West. Opposition and those who have taken Crimea are of the Moscow Patriarchate. These dominate in the East.

I would also guess that similar partitions occur during the Nazi occupation and earlier in the Holodomor.

English news sites have shown Russian supporters with flags featuring the hammer and sickle. This is a little confusing. I'm pretty sure that the Communist Party is as good as dead in the Russian Federation.

What about Serbian Orthodox? Are they Autocephalous or of some Patriarchate, or what?

Marko, from Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ukraine

"14.9 percent of believers identify themselves with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Kyiv Patriarchate;
10.9 percent are adherents of Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) (which has the largest number of churches in Ukraine and claims up to 75% of the Ukrainian population[4]);
5.3 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church (sometimes referred to as the Uniate, Byzantine, or Eastern Rite Church);
1.0 percent belonged to the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church;
0.6 percent belonged to the Roman Catholic Church;"

Here is my guess of the situation. Those who have seized power in Kiev are Uniate or Catholic and their followers are with the Kyiv Patriarchate. These dominate in the West. Opposition and those who have taken Crimea are of the Moscow Patriarchate. These dominate in the East.

I would also guess that similar partitions occur during the Nazi occupation and earlier in the Holodomor.

English news sites have shown Russian supporters with flags featuring the hammer and sickle. This is a little confusing. I'm pretty sure that the Communist Party is as good as dead in the Russian Federation.

The Serbian Orthodox church is autocephalous.

Because the "Ukrainian" embassy is not legitimate or authoritative until the Western Ukraine power vacuum is resolved, its comments are not really important. It does not speak for the Ukraine. Dodik probably speaks for as many Ukrainians as the coup leaders. All events on the ground seem to confirm.
(Leo, 7 March 2014 12:26)

Well, the "Ukrainian" embassy speaks for the vast majority of Ukraine's parliament democratically elected (nobody disputes that, not even Russia) by the Ukrainian people. Who did elect you or Dodik to speak on behalf of the Ukrainians?! Some people here have very bizarre concepts on when somebody can speak on behalf of somebody else :)