"Intent was to destroy Croat communities"

No matter how many British lawyers the Croats get (or is it the other way around?), Croat's case is lost before even it starts. A real shame for Croatia.

The Serbs also stated that Gotovina would spend the next 30 years behind bars guaranteed. The only bar Gotovina is behind is the bar he owns in ZG where he serves drinks to his customers. The Serbs will once again be shocked once the court makes its final decision regarding genocide on the Croatian people. Serbs need to pay compensation, the quicker the better !

A load of crap. At best, the aim was to steal.

If the intent was to destroy Croats, JNA would have finished the job in less than a year. Instead, orders were given to pull back and hold positions so a stalemate would occur, giving Tudjman the breathing room he asked Slobo to give (the two coordinated this whole thing from the start). JNA had every means to take Karlovac yet it didn't. They could have stormed Dubrovnik, but they didn't. Zagreb could have been surrounded, besieged, and finally taken, but it wasn't.

And before the mighty mighty Croatian Homeland Army gloriously swept into Krajina in one of the most trumped up victories in modern history took place, JNA was ordered to basically withdraw and leave Krajina Serbs to fend for themselves, which was largely packing up whatever they could and leave before a bunch of vengeful Croats descends upon the villages.

@Nuremburg unfinished. How un-educated you Serbs are. The hearing is about the devastation on Croatia by Serbian fascists and has nothing to do with WW2 where convicted war criminal Draza aligned himself with the Germans anyway. While where at it why not go back to 1389 where Serbs slaughtered thousands of innocent ottomans just like they did to their brothers in Srebrenica. Poor Serbs thinking that they are such angels when in fact they will be remembered as the worlds biggest fascists.

Lawyers laughing all the way ti bank, the real winers .

from Milosevic:

Milošević: Molim vas, 6 hiljada Hrvata je branilo Vukovar pola godine; napadala je cela Prva armija, vazduhoplovstvo, čudo, sva sila koju je imala JNA, a oni nisu odbranili Knin, kojem se može prići samo iz tri pravca; nisu ga mogli braniti ni 12 sati!?
Oni ga nisu branili, jer po svim izveštajima koje smo dobili od policajaca, građana i ostalih, čim je prestala artiljerijska priprema u sedam uveče, oni su naredili - bežaniju! Prema tome, tu nije bilo nikakvog otpora niti je bilo borbenog dodira sa hrvatskim snagama. (...) - Tamo je palo naređenje da svi izađu iz Krajine istog dana, čak bez stvorenog kontakta sa hrvatskom vojskom na najvećem delu fronta. Da smo istog tog dana napravili idiotsku glupost da im pomognemo, ko bi to stigao do Knina do večeri da im pomogne?! Pa, tamo ne bi moglo da se stigne od njihovih kolona kojima su zakrčili sve putove u bežaniji zajedno sa stanovništvom. (...) Pitanje je ko je, zaista, doneo odluku da krajiško rukovodstvo napusti Krajinu? Takva odluka, kada su imali sve uslove da se brane, izazvala je egzodus. Sada to treba da bude razlog da Jugoslavija jurne tamo da brani te teritorije, sa kojih su oni utekli kao zečevi?



Anthropologist...tell me this didnt happen?

Balkan Anthropologist, 5 March 2014 15:40, The war was finished for the Serbia in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar Vukovvar Croatia. Where 1,800 armed with hunting rifeles gave a beating to 36,000 Serb criminals for three months. That scared the living day lites out of Serbias fascist/comunist army. Your battle hardened criminals on murder of civilians could not even stop 2 Croatian brigades. That took on 14 Serb brigades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mistral it would of finished the Serbs criminalety. My clone lol up and runing not bad.

The war was finished for the Serbia in [link] Vukovvar Croatia. Where 1,800 armed with hunting rifeles gave a beating to 36,000 Serb criminals for three months.
(Lenard, 5 March 2014 18:41)

Um, the Wikipedia link you gave me said:

"Vukovar remained in Serb hands until 1998 when it was peacefully reintegrated into Croatia." Where exactly is that "beating" you're referring to? If there was a "beating", there wouldn't be years of crying and remembering what Croatia regards as the worst battle in Europe since WWII. I think you're making things up.

"That scared the living day lites out of Serbias fascist/comunist army."

Again, I don't know how scared they got since the city fell to JNA. Oh, and take your pick between fascist and communist. Two polar opposites.

"Your battle hardened criminals on murder of civilians could not even stop 2 Croatian brigades. That took on 14 Serb brigades [link] it would of finished the Serbs criminalety"

I'm sorry, what does this have to do with Croatia? And don't switch to Bosnia. Croatia did its worst there since Serbs got an entity and in 20 years Croats will be gone from the entity it's forced to live in with Bosniaks.

It's fun seeing you trying to talk smack on the internet, but your logic and your arguments are as sharp as your spelling and grammar.

On the morning of April 22, 1945, nine days before Hitler committed suicide as Allied forces moved toward Berlin, 1,073 men were locked in the tailor’s building in the main Jasenovac concentration camp in the Nazi puppet state of Independent Croatia. The building in the women’s camp had housed 760 women until the evening before when the women were marched, singing bravely, to their deaths by fire, knives specially designed for throat-slitting, and wooden mallets—the killing specialties of the Ustasha, the Croat equivalent of the SS, in the Nazi occupied Independent State of Croatia. The men and boys who had survived by working in camp facilities had been gathered and transferred to the building in the late evening. Many men hanged themselves before the gathering, rather than succumb to Ustasha tortures, and the young Dušan Prpoš hanged himself in a restroom in the tailor’s building early the next morning.

Croatian Canadian tell me, this didnt happen? Thank god as soon as the Serbian team starts the whole world will finally know the real truth about croats, you do know that Jasenovac is a big part of the Serbian case? They have tons of material and pictures that will be shown, pictures from Jasenovac, pictures from Jadovno, the only concentration camps for Children! You will be described as the real monsters that you are. Only croats could be so vicious and bloodthirsty to have concentration camps for Children.

I am sure the International Community supports Croatia's right to defend itself from Serb aggression and Croatia will win this lawsuit that will bankrupt broken Belgrade.

All ethnic-Serb War Criminals belong in the Hague and BILLIONS of Euros in war reparations must be paid by Serbia after guilty verdict.

If Serbia doesn't have enough left over to also pay Bosnia,Slovenia and Kosova then EU can loan unlimited amounts to cover all 4 lost lawsuits and Serbia can continue to pay with good interest rates to all her victims for the next 100 years.........

Serbia must pay for her crimes.

Balkan Anthropologist provides a fairly decent synopsis, but a couple points:

1. It was not the JNA that withdrew in 1995, but the Armija RSK. In truth, the former operated the latter, but to refer to the RSK forces as "JNA" contradicts the Serbian claim that the Knin crew weren't under Milosevic's control.

2. The degree of JNA military superiority over Croatian forces by late 1991 is a matter of some dispute. Some would argue that the Croatian army was starting to put up a pretty good fight by November or December, and that the resources required to finish the job were greater than the JNA could commit, given its designs on BiH in 1992.

3. Milosevic and Tudjman may very well have agreed far in advance to divide Croatia and BiH, but it's unlikely that they carefully worked out every last detail. Milosevic was reportedly furious when Western Slavonija was recaptured in May 1995, and I highly doubt that he was pleased to see the Muslim-Croat alliance routing the Bosnian Serbs in northwestern BiH at the end of the Bosnian war.

Nit-picking aside, I agree that this whole legal process is a bunch of BS, and a big waste of resources. Neither side stands a chance of winning.

There was no genocide on either side in the 90's? I wanted to agree,but in the 1940's there was and Croatia has never been properly held to account for that which is beyond dispute. So maybe the "honourable judges" could focus more on that first. They murdered widely in 1941 and I've never met a Serb from Bosnia or Croatia who didn't lose someone at that time. Interestingly the Croats and their Bosniak partners in crime targeted the same geographical areas once again in the 90's. So the conclusion may well be that Croatia committed genocide on both occasions it's just the Serbs didn't let them get away with it so easily this time.

There was no genocide on either side in the 90's? I wanted to agree,but in the 1940's there was and Croatia has never been properly held to account for that which is beyond dispute. So maybe the "honourable judges" could focus more on that first. They murdered widely in 1941 and I've never met a Serb from Bosnia or Croatia who didn't lose someone at that time. Interestingly the Croats and their Bosniak partners in crime targeted the same geographical areas once again in the 90's. So the conclusion may well be that Croatia committed genocide on both occasions it's just the Serbs didn't let them get away with it so easily this time.
(Nuremburg's unfinished., 5 March 2014 22:47)

Always going back to the Ustase. You can't factualy justify what Serbian forces did in Croatia where Croats throughout history never set foot in Serbia. So you dig and dig to find any way to slander the Croatian people. Even if it means minipulating history to demonize ALL Croats, not just the actual guilty ones. Hey if it helps you sleep at night buddy.

My clone lol up and runing not bad.
(Lenard, 5 March 2014 18:41)

Oh God, you're breeding.

@Nuremburg unfinished. How un-educated you Serbs are. The hearing is about the devastation on Croatia by Serbian fascists and has nothing to do with WW2 where convicted war criminal Draza aligned himself with the Germans anyway. While where at it why not go back to 1389 where Serbs slaughtered thousands of innocent ottomans just like they did to their brothers in Srebrenica. Poor Serbs thinking that they are such angels when in fact they will be remembered as the worlds biggest fascists.
(Lenard's clone, 6 March 2014

Actually the hearing has a lot to do with ww2, did you even read SErbias counter-sue?
Serbia is sewing Croatia for committing genocide in ww2 and ethnical cleansing during ww2 and they do have a very strong case considering how many serbs were brutally murdered by you ustasa during ww2. Thank god for this trial so the whole World will see who really committed genocide.

No matter how many British lawyers the Croats get (or is it the other way around?), Croat's case is lost before even it starts. A real shame for Croatia.

The Serbs also stated that Gotovina would spend the next 30 years behind bars guaranteed. The only bar Gotovina is behind is the bar he owns in ZG where he serves drinks to his customers. The Serbs will once again be shocked once the court makes its final decision regarding genocide on the Croatian people. Serbs need to pay compensation, the quicker the better !

A load of crap. At best, the aim was to steal.

If the intent was to destroy Croats, JNA would have finished the job in less than a year. Instead, orders were given to pull back and hold positions so a stalemate would occur, giving Tudjman the breathing room he asked Slobo to give (the two coordinated this whole thing from the start). JNA had every means to take Karlovac yet it didn't. They could have stormed Dubrovnik, but they didn't. Zagreb could have been surrounded, besieged, and finally taken, but it wasn't.

And before the mighty mighty Croatian Homeland Army gloriously swept into Krajina in one of the most trumped up victories in modern history took place, JNA was ordered to basically withdraw and leave Krajina Serbs to fend for themselves, which was largely packing up whatever they could and leave before a bunch of vengeful Croats descends upon the villages.

Balkan Anthropologist, 5 March 2014 15:40, The war was finished for the Serbia in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar Vukovvar Croatia. Where 1,800 armed with hunting rifeles gave a beating to 36,000 Serb criminals for three months. That scared the living day lites out of Serbias fascist/comunist army. Your battle hardened criminals on murder of civilians could not even stop 2 Croatian brigades. That took on 14 Serb brigades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mistral it would of finished the Serbs criminalety. My clone lol up and runing not bad.

There was no genocide on either side in the 90's? I wanted to agree,but in the 1940's there was and Croatia has never been properly held to account for that which is beyond dispute. So maybe the "honourable judges" could focus more on that first. They murdered widely in 1941 and I've never met a Serb from Bosnia or Croatia who didn't lose someone at that time. Interestingly the Croats and their Bosniak partners in crime targeted the same geographical areas once again in the 90's. So the conclusion may well be that Croatia committed genocide on both occasions it's just the Serbs didn't let them get away with it so easily this time.

Balkan Anthropologist provides a fairly decent synopsis, but a couple points:

1. It was not the JNA that withdrew in 1995, but the Armija RSK. In truth, the former operated the latter, but to refer to the RSK forces as "JNA" contradicts the Serbian claim that the Knin crew weren't under Milosevic's control.

2. The degree of JNA military superiority over Croatian forces by late 1991 is a matter of some dispute. Some would argue that the Croatian army was starting to put up a pretty good fight by November or December, and that the resources required to finish the job were greater than the JNA could commit, given its designs on BiH in 1992.

3. Milosevic and Tudjman may very well have agreed far in advance to divide Croatia and BiH, but it's unlikely that they carefully worked out every last detail. Milosevic was reportedly furious when Western Slavonija was recaptured in May 1995, and I highly doubt that he was pleased to see the Muslim-Croat alliance routing the Bosnian Serbs in northwestern BiH at the end of the Bosnian war.

Nit-picking aside, I agree that this whole legal process is a bunch of BS, and a big waste of resources. Neither side stands a chance of winning.

The war was finished for the Serbia in [link] Vukovvar Croatia. Where 1,800 armed with hunting rifeles gave a beating to 36,000 Serb criminals for three months.
(Lenard, 5 March 2014 18:41)

Um, the Wikipedia link you gave me said:

"Vukovar remained in Serb hands until 1998 when it was peacefully reintegrated into Croatia." Where exactly is that "beating" you're referring to? If there was a "beating", there wouldn't be years of crying and remembering what Croatia regards as the worst battle in Europe since WWII. I think you're making things up.

"That scared the living day lites out of Serbias fascist/comunist army."

Again, I don't know how scared they got since the city fell to JNA. Oh, and take your pick between fascist and communist. Two polar opposites.

"Your battle hardened criminals on murder of civilians could not even stop 2 Croatian brigades. That took on 14 Serb brigades [link] it would of finished the Serbs criminalety"

I'm sorry, what does this have to do with Croatia? And don't switch to Bosnia. Croatia did its worst there since Serbs got an entity and in 20 years Croats will be gone from the entity it's forced to live in with Bosniaks.

It's fun seeing you trying to talk smack on the internet, but your logic and your arguments are as sharp as your spelling and grammar.

@Nuremburg unfinished. How un-educated you Serbs are. The hearing is about the devastation on Croatia by Serbian fascists and has nothing to do with WW2 where convicted war criminal Draza aligned himself with the Germans anyway. While where at it why not go back to 1389 where Serbs slaughtered thousands of innocent ottomans just like they did to their brothers in Srebrenica. Poor Serbs thinking that they are such angels when in fact they will be remembered as the worlds biggest fascists.

My clone lol up and runing not bad.
(Lenard, 5 March 2014 18:41)

Oh God, you're breeding.

Lawyers laughing all the way ti bank, the real winers .

from Milosevic:

Milošević: Molim vas, 6 hiljada Hrvata je branilo Vukovar pola godine; napadala je cela Prva armija, vazduhoplovstvo, čudo, sva sila koju je imala JNA, a oni nisu odbranili Knin, kojem se može prići samo iz tri pravca; nisu ga mogli braniti ni 12 sati!?
Oni ga nisu branili, jer po svim izveštajima koje smo dobili od policajaca, građana i ostalih, čim je prestala artiljerijska priprema u sedam uveče, oni su naredili - bežaniju! Prema tome, tu nije bilo nikakvog otpora niti je bilo borbenog dodira sa hrvatskim snagama. (...) - Tamo je palo naređenje da svi izađu iz Krajine istog dana, čak bez stvorenog kontakta sa hrvatskom vojskom na najvećem delu fronta. Da smo istog tog dana napravili idiotsku glupost da im pomognemo, ko bi to stigao do Knina do večeri da im pomogne?! Pa, tamo ne bi moglo da se stigne od njihovih kolona kojima su zakrčili sve putove u bežaniji zajedno sa stanovništvom. (...) Pitanje je ko je, zaista, doneo odluku da krajiško rukovodstvo napusti Krajinu? Takva odluka, kada su imali sve uslove da se brane, izazvala je egzodus. Sada to treba da bude razlog da Jugoslavija jurne tamo da brani te teritorije, sa kojih su oni utekli kao zečevi?



Anthropologist...tell me this didnt happen?

@Nuremburg unfinished. How un-educated you Serbs are. The hearing is about the devastation on Croatia by Serbian fascists and has nothing to do with WW2 where convicted war criminal Draza aligned himself with the Germans anyway. While where at it why not go back to 1389 where Serbs slaughtered thousands of innocent ottomans just like they did to their brothers in Srebrenica. Poor Serbs thinking that they are such angels when in fact they will be remembered as the worlds biggest fascists.
(Lenard's clone, 6 March 2014

Actually the hearing has a lot to do with ww2, did you even read SErbias counter-sue?
Serbia is sewing Croatia for committing genocide in ww2 and ethnical cleansing during ww2 and they do have a very strong case considering how many serbs were brutally murdered by you ustasa during ww2. Thank god for this trial so the whole World will see who really committed genocide.

There was no genocide on either side in the 90's? I wanted to agree,but in the 1940's there was and Croatia has never been properly held to account for that which is beyond dispute. So maybe the "honourable judges" could focus more on that first. They murdered widely in 1941 and I've never met a Serb from Bosnia or Croatia who didn't lose someone at that time. Interestingly the Croats and their Bosniak partners in crime targeted the same geographical areas once again in the 90's. So the conclusion may well be that Croatia committed genocide on both occasions it's just the Serbs didn't let them get away with it so easily this time.
(Nuremburg's unfinished., 5 March 2014 22:47)

Always going back to the Ustase. You can't factualy justify what Serbian forces did in Croatia where Croats throughout history never set foot in Serbia. So you dig and dig to find any way to slander the Croatian people. Even if it means minipulating history to demonize ALL Croats, not just the actual guilty ones. Hey if it helps you sleep at night buddy.

I am sure the International Community supports Croatia's right to defend itself from Serb aggression and Croatia will win this lawsuit that will bankrupt broken Belgrade.

All ethnic-Serb War Criminals belong in the Hague and BILLIONS of Euros in war reparations must be paid by Serbia after guilty verdict.

If Serbia doesn't have enough left over to also pay Bosnia,Slovenia and Kosova then EU can loan unlimited amounts to cover all 4 lost lawsuits and Serbia can continue to pay with good interest rates to all her victims for the next 100 years.........

Serbia must pay for her crimes.

On the morning of April 22, 1945, nine days before Hitler committed suicide as Allied forces moved toward Berlin, 1,073 men were locked in the tailor’s building in the main Jasenovac concentration camp in the Nazi puppet state of Independent Croatia. The building in the women’s camp had housed 760 women until the evening before when the women were marched, singing bravely, to their deaths by fire, knives specially designed for throat-slitting, and wooden mallets—the killing specialties of the Ustasha, the Croat equivalent of the SS, in the Nazi occupied Independent State of Croatia. The men and boys who had survived by working in camp facilities had been gathered and transferred to the building in the late evening. Many men hanged themselves before the gathering, rather than succumb to Ustasha tortures, and the young Dušan Prpoš hanged himself in a restroom in the tailor’s building early the next morning.

Croatian Canadian tell me, this didnt happen? Thank god as soon as the Serbian team starts the whole world will finally know the real truth about croats, you do know that Jasenovac is a big part of the Serbian case? They have tons of material and pictures that will be shown, pictures from Jasenovac, pictures from Jadovno, the only concentration camps for Children! You will be described as the real monsters that you are. Only croats could be so vicious and bloodthirsty to have concentration camps for Children.