Anniversary of declaration of Kosovo's independence

Viva La Kosova!!!

So let's see, 6 years on and...

-Still no UN recognition
-Still no place in the Olympics
-Enough heroin, child prostitutes and extracted organs to go around for everybody
-Not that the average Albanian in Kosovo i Metohija could afford it because theirs still dire poverty unlike anywhere else not only in Serbia but in the rest of Europe.
-Still KLA terrorists winning elections with a 105% turnout
-Still Serbian officials roaming around in Kosovo i Metohija under the illusion that Albanian "officials" are "allowing" them to visit.
-Still Serbs and other ethnic minorities living in ethnic ghettos reminiscent of Nazi Germany . . .

Something to celebrate, these "young Europeans".

A jubilant day indeed, from 1 artificial and historical mistake, you now have 7 independent Republics that will all participate together in the creation of a stable & peaceful Europe! However, I do still hold doubts on 1 of these republics true intentions! Here is a hint ( during the 1990s, they thought they could impose their will on others thru force & barbaric policies, they thought they could defy the civilized & democratic world ) Well, they thought wrong!

@Ari Gold

even if everything you wrote there happens to be true (it isn't), it is still infinitely better than it was when the heavenly people ruled roost. however bad Kosova is today (and there's no doubt that its far from perfect) it's still a much better version than it was under Serbia.

Congratulations Kosovo.

Ps: ignore the jealous Serbs here commenting.

Still no UN recognition

Swiss was not a UN member till 2002, and still Swiss was recognized country. Taiwan is not in UN, and is doing just fine.


-Still no place in the Olympics

Spoke to soon. Check IJF rank list who has th6e most olympic points so far.

-Enough heroin, child prostitutes and extracted organs to go around for everybody

You must have mistaken Kosova thinking is serbia.


-Still KLA terrorists winning elections with a 105% turnout

Well, your so called terrorist are preventing your politicians from entering Kosova, and at same time your PM is having lunches&dinners with your so called top terrorists from Kosova.


-Still Serbs and other ethnic minorities living in ethnic ghettos
reminiscent of Nazi Germany . . .

Don't bother talking about other minorities, they can speak for themselves. As for serbs, they chose to barricade themselves in northern Mitro ,ONLY.

(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)


In the end, Happy Independence day KOSOVA.
I hope Ari will join the fireworks tonight.

(Rocky, 17 February 2014 12:38)

I doubt your lot would know civilised behaviour or democracy if it bit them on the backside – you still have revenge killings. All the so called Kosova institutions are EU instituations. The EU runs the government, it runs the police, judiciary, administration. So much for your jubilant day.
Sebria has rid it self of all the burdens it had in the past and life will improve there. Look at Slovenia; its bonds were pronounced late last year as junk bonds and last week the same happened to Croatia.
Ask yourself how is Kosova going to survive???????? When you put the old BS about being free in a pot see if that will feed the family.

I didn't know it was just a few days after the aniversary of Serbia's unilateral decleration of independence

I doubt your lot would know civilised behaviour or democracy if it bit them on the backside – you still have revenge killings.
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

That's true... Probably one of the few things Serbs and Albanians have in common. Serbs are still revenging 1389...
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All the so called Kosova institutions are EU instituations. The EU runs the government, it runs the police, judiciary, administration.
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

I'm sure Kosovars really appreciate that even the CE of B02 forums sj confirms with the above that Serbia is not in charge and does not run Kosovo.
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Sebria has rid it self of all the burdens it had in the past and life will improve there. Look at Slovenia; its bonds were pronounced late last year as junk bonds and last week the same happened to Croatia.
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

Well, Slovenia's bonds last week were still less junk than Serbia's. So, I think, you meant that Slovenia got rid of the Serbian burden.
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Ask yourself how is Kosova going to survive????????
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

The answer is: not by being under Serbia which is a failed state already even without Kosovo.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

(the truth, 17 February 2014 14:59)

Ah yes, the Switzerland argument. Because Pristina is always mistaken for Zurich, I know! There is a difference between choosing not to join an organization and not being allowed into an organization. The Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija would love nothing more than a UN seat, but the fact remains is they cannot get one. The last two countries to achieve independence were Montenegro and South Sudan, and these countries joined the UN the very same year. You are going on 6 years later and still lobbying for recognitions and trying to join the UN which has proven to be unsuccessful. How delusional must you be to compare yourselves to the Swiss lol.

Those KLA terrorists are barring Serbian officials? How?! Vulin gets banned every week from entering Kosovo i Metohija and he somehow always makes it there. But the fact remains that if Pristina really is calling the shots, why "allow" Serbian officials to enter Kosovo i Metohija at all? Would that not be counter to your interests? Something Albanians can never answer me straightforward.

"Anniversary of declaration of Kosovo's independence
Source: Beta, Tanjug
BELGRADE -- Monday marks the sixth anniversary since Kosovo's Albanians declared independence, on February 17, 2008."

Well there you have it folks, coming from the horses mouth:)

Congratulations, Kosova, especially Thaci and my other colleagues there! I wished I had an own state 80 years ago instead of some years in prison.

Still no UN recognition
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)

Swiss was not a UN member till 2002, and still Swiss was recognized country. Taiwan is not in UN, and is doing just fine.
(the truth, 17 February 2014 14:59)

And to add another example... Ukraine was a UN member from 1945 to 1990, but still was not a recognized country.

How comes all these "paradoxes" happen?! Very simple... because contrary to the beliefs of some Serbs, the UN is not in the business of recognition of countries. No country has ever or will ever be recognized by the UN, at least until the UN charter changes to give that power to the UN. The recognition of another country is a sovereign decision of each individual country.

Yes, of course, we do celebrate this day. The Belgrade regime has been horrible about things, from beginning till now, and yet we have persevered.

There are still some 1700 ppl, mainly Albanian, missing and presumed dead. Enormous pressure needs to be exerted on Belgrade to find the bodies, the remains, or to open the secret files about what happened (for example, the industrialized burning of bodies.) They should be deeply ashamed, but they and their media are as arrogant as ever.

People of all nationalities suffered during the wars and genocides, but Serbia has never apologized or offered reparations. What is wrong with this picture...

roberto frisco

As long as the United States of America breathes, Serbia withers in constant defeat.

Get over it.

Happy Independence Day, Kosovo!

Something is allowed to one ethnic group that was denied to the other. Most prominent European (not Serbian) legal experts declared that no former Yugoslavian republic is to lose part of the territory - then creation of Kosovo is supported!
It's the policy of ethnic discrimination and SUPREMACY, aka fascism. And yes. I was thinking that we might be able to defy this uncivilized and undemocratic, barbaric world. I thought wrong.

Congratulations to Kosovo on their independence. To the deniers on here that want to criticize the fact that Kosovo has not reached the level of other countries, I have to ask can you name a country that started from ruins and made as much progress as Kosovo in 6 years??
Afterall if I were to believe the comments here Serbs were here to greet Adam and Eve in the garden of paradise, yet they are still only a couple of steps ahead of Kosovo.

Independent Kosovo has no greater friend and ally than Serbia. From eu and FIFA and rokcec logo on ballots to ambassador dejan pavicevic Kosovo can always look to Serbia for a rock solid ally in evey effort to make Kosovo more of a state and that includes Serbia having customs agents and border guards between Kosovo and Serbia. As vucic says Serbia has real borders and dacic dacic says lies were told Kosovo was part of Serbia.

(Brian, 17 February 2014 17:45)

If what you say is true, (and we all know you're just trolling), how do you explain the fact that despite 6 years going by that the Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija still do not have a seat at the UN? So you're telling me, Serbia apparently supports your drive for independence and you STILL cannot get a seat and full recognition from the entire world? That must say what the rest of the world really thinks about Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija if not even Serbia's apparent support is enough to become fully recognized.

Oh and with FIFA, the Albanians were approved to play friendly matches. (Not that they would ever make any major tournament anyway) and no "national" symbols are allowed in the jerseys. This is the same treatment that Catalonia, the Basque region and other territories receive. You are not even on Taiwan's level which actually competes in the Olympics under its own entity. And yes, Serbia had to approve this just as Spain approved its territorial entities competing in friendly's. Thank you for admitting you require Serbia's approval.

"-Not that the average Albanian in Kosovo i Metohija could afford it because theirs still dire poverty unlike anywhere else not only in Serbia but in the rest of Europe."

Something to celebrate, these "young Europeans".
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)

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As opposed to the great lives and thriving economy as well as freedom and pure happiness the Albanians in Presevo Valley enjoy.

Let us be serious.

Things may not be as good as we would like in Kosovo,
However, as bad as things may seem to you, they are whole lot better than being under Serbian occupation.

Since today marks 6 years that Kosovo declared sovereignty and for pro-
independence Kosovars this evidently is your special and meaningful day to reflect on.

I wish I was able to view something regarding the 6 year anniversary on an Albanian-Canadian news magazine called Pasqyra Shqiptare that airs on the OMNI network but since we switched from Rogers Cable to Bell Aliant (an iptv company) Bell Aliant unfortunately doesn't carry OMNI so that's why I'm unable to view Pasqyra Shqiptare and therefore can't view possible footage of the 6 year anniversary on the program.

Finally I'd like to add by saying to pro-sovereign Kosovars that for some of you that for many years when you had to have hopes and aspirations for Kosovo to one day become sovereign you must have persevered and finally on Feb 17,2008 your determination and perseverence paid off.So once again happy anniversary and have yourselves a fantastic day.

As years are going by Serbs are slowly starting to learn. I didn't see one comment from Serbs who say "Kosovo is not, but 'republika srpska' is". That used to make me laugh. Few more years will need to go by for Serbs to start dealing with other MORE important problems.

As long as the United States of America breathes, Serbia withers in constant defeat.

Get over it.

Happy Independence Day, Kosovo!
(Josh, 18 February 2014 00:34)

LOL "josh" (c'mon now, you don't expect us to believe that is your real name) thank you for admitting that it wasn't your military but the strongest military on earth that were able to keep Serbia from liberating her holy land. Only the strongest power in the world could keep Serbia from liberating Kosovo i Metohija, and surely no Islamist KLA organ extractors.

However I would disagree with you about the US. If Syria is any sign, the American people are in no mood to engage in conflicts abroad anymore. And the good thing is, as long as KLA criminals roam the streets and continue oppressing the Serbs in enclaves (still cannot reach Northern Kosovo), there will always be ground for liberation.

Sadly, Belgrade itself must be liberated from the Titoists that continue to plague the country. This occupation has been going on since '45, the children of Tito's Partizans and KPJ loyalists are now the elite in Serbia. Once that is settled and the communists are held accountable for their crimes, then we can talk about the holy land.

Those KLA terrorists are barring Serbian officials? How?! Vulin gets banned every week from entering Kosovo i Metohija and he somehow always makes it there. But the fact remains that if Pristina really is calling the shots, why "allow" Serbian officials to enter Kosovo i Metohija at all? Would that not be counter to your interests? Something Albanians can never answer me straightforward.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Ari Gold,

As you know Oli is in jail in Prishtina, Vulin will be next.

Ah yes, the Switzerland argument. Because Pristina is always mistaken for Zurich, I know! There is a difference between choosing not to join an organization and not being allowed into an organization. The Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija would love nothing more than a UN seat, but the fact remains is they cannot get one.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Sure, you will be correct if and when Kosovo applies for UN membership and is not allowed to join. But until then, you are obviously wrong, because Kosovo does have the choice to apply for joining the UN or not, the same choice that Switzerland had in 2002.
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The last two countries to achieve independence were Montenegro and South Sudan, and these countries joined the UN the very same year.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Sure, but no, thanks. Kosovo certainly has no desire to be like South Sudan http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/02/counting-dead-south-sudan-2014216115224123347.html
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You are going on 6 years later and still lobbying for recognitions
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Ok, and what's wrong with that, beside the fact that Serbia hates it?
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and trying to join the UN which has proven to be unsuccessful. How delusional must you be to compare yourselves to the Swiss lol.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Trying to join the UN?!!! Please show us Kosovo's application for UN membership. I probably have missed the news.

But the fact remains that if Pristina really is calling the shots, why "allow" Serbian officials to enter Kosovo i Metohija at all? Would that not be counter to your interests? Something Albanians can never answer me straightforward.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

that question makes no sense... The Russians routinely allow American officials to enter Russia. Does that mean that Moscow does not call the shots in Russia?!!! Not sure I see the logical connection of allowing foreign officials to visit a country being equal to the government of that country not calling the shots!!!!

Anyway, dear, all of these are moot arguments. Let's assume for a moment that everything you said is correct. Is that a reason for Kosovo to accept Serbia's offer of more-than-autonomy-but-less-than-independence? If Kosovo were to accept it, will Kosovo become a UN member? Will Kosovo be allowed to prevent Serbian officials from entering Kosovo? I think we both agree that the answer to those questions is NO.... so I don't get what is the point that you are trying to make, dear!!!!

To make it simple for you... You have to come up with arguments like, Kosovo currently cannot do X; if Kosovo were to be part of Serbia then it will be able to do X. If X is a good thing, there you stand a chance for Kosovo becoming part of Serbia in the future, because it will have a benefit vs the current situation.

-Still Serbian officials roaming around in Kosovo i Metohija under the illusion that Albanian "officials" are "allowing" them to visit.
-Still Serbs and other ethnic minorities living in ethnic ghettos reminiscent of Nazi Germany . . .

Something to celebrate, these "young Europeans".
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)

Ari Gold, it is called freedom of movement, something which democratic societies participate in. Unfortunately Serb politicians use it for ulterior motives. Regardless, your statements contradict one another.

What a ridiculous comparison. The United States recognizes the independence of Russia and vice-versa. Russia does not view the U.S. as an occupier or a wartime foe (as do the KLA leadership in Kosovo i Metohija towards Serbia). And of course, both entities are recognized by the UN.

You are a lot less primitive than your compatriots that love coming on Serbian websites. You can speak well and form coherent sentences so congratulations. But still, that was a horrible comparison.
(Ari Gold, 18 February 2014 10:21)

Ari, as usual, your comments are ridiculous! Serbia has recognized Kosova's independence, although still unofficially!
Otherwise, why hasn't a sound been heard from Serbia, as in let's say liberating Kosova? It must be that Serbs are the biggest sissys in the world! If we are to listen to your theory's, & if Serbians are that courageous, Then I'm sure that your at least as strong as the Vietnamese? I very much doubt it! Oh, and as to the future when your supposed liberation is going to take place, well it won't be a walk in the park my old friend!!! It's not going to be handed to your Serbia on a golden plate, I assure that much😘

It's the liberty day for Kosovo and Libya. And soon Syria will join the free peoples of the world too.

Ari, as usual, your comments are ridiculous! Serbia has recognized Kosova's independence, although still unofficially!
Otherwise, why hasn't a sound been heard from Serbia, as in let's say liberating Kosova? It must be that Serbs are the biggest sissys in the world! If we are to listen to your theory's, & if Serbians are that courageous, Then I'm sure that your at least as strong as the Vietnamese? I very much doubt it! Oh, and as to the future when your supposed liberation is going to take place, well it won't be a walk in the park my old friend!!! It's not going to be handed to your Serbia on a golden plate, I assure that much😘
(Rocky, 18 February 2014 23:04)

The Serbian gov't sure as hell would want to. Mainly because they are Titoists at heart and are anti-Serbian to their very core. Never-mind what their supposed ideology is, all elite in Serbia are descendants of communists.

But the question then remains, if Serbia supposedly has recognized the illegal occupation as independence, why cannot the Albanians get full recognition from the rest of the world? When Sudan recognized South Sudan, so did the rest of the world. It seems half the world and the UN doesn't want you even if Serbia says its okay.

Obviously, freedom for Kosovo i Metohija is impossible as long as NATO is there. There's no shame in a small nation not being able to fight the strongest military alliance in the world. You've deluded yourself into thinking that their strength is actually your own.

Resplendent hyperbole from Rocky as per usual. Your parasitic presence on this website is a constant source of amusement to me, along with your unending and bizarre historical revisionism. You are a class act,which level I'll leave other visitors to decide.

that question makes no sense... The Russians routinely allow American officials to enter Russia. Does that mean that Moscow does not call the shots in Russia?!!! Not sure I see the logical connection of allowing foreign officials to visit a country being equal to the government of that country not calling the shots!!!!

icj1, 18 February 2014 00:28)

What a ridiculous comparison. The United States recognizes the independence of Russia and vice-versa. Russia does not view the U.S. as an occupier or a wartime foe (as do the KLA leadership in Kosovo i Metohija towards Serbia). And of course, both entities are recognized by the UN.

You are a lot less primitive than your compatriots that love coming on Serbian websites. You can speak well and form coherent sentences so congratulations. But still, that was a horrible comparison.

What a ridiculous comparison. The United States recognizes the independence of Russia and vice-versa. Russia does not view the U.S. as an occupier or a wartime foe (as do the KLA leadership in Kosovo i Metohija towards Serbia). And of course, both entities are recognized by the UN.

You are a lot less primitive than your compatriots that love coming on Serbian websites. You can speak well and form coherent sentences so congratulations. But still, that was a horrible comparison.
(Ari Gold, 18 February 2014 10:21)

You said that if A (Kosovo) allows officials of B (Serbia) to enter Kosovo, than (A) does not call the shots in (A).

So, I just applied the same argument to other countries... If you meant that A and B should be enemies for the above to apply, take, for example, US and North Korea - they are much more in conflict than Serbia and Kosovo. Still N. Korea allows officials of US to visit. It certainly does not mean that N. Korea does not call the shots in N. Korea. There is no logical connection between "allowing the visits" and "not calling the shots".

So, I just applied the same argument to other countries... If you meant that A and B should be enemies for the above to apply, take, for example, US and North Korea - they are much more in conflict than Serbia and Kosovo. Still N. Korea allows officials of US to visit. It certainly does not mean that N. Korea does not call the shots in N. Korea. There is no logical connection between "allowing the visits" and "not calling the shots".
(icj1, 19 February 2014 06:02)

North Korea and the U.S.A recognize each other as sovereign states. The more accurate comparison would be if South Korea recognized the North as belonging to the South and the North "allowing" gov't officials from the South to visit the North, making campaign stops etc. That is what is happening now with the Radical Party in Mitrovica. The reality is, NATO-KFOR said Serbian officials can visit in their official capacity if they allow custom agents at the admin line and the Serbian gov't agreed. So the entire game is played between Serbia and NATO. The Albanians are glorified middle-managers.

North Korea and the U.S.A recognize each other as sovereign states.
(Ari Gold, 19 February 2014 17:14)

OK, so your argument is that if country A and B do not recognize each-other, then, if country A allows officials of country B to visit A, then country A is not in charge of A.

All I'm trying understand is the general principle that you are trying to explain...

The reality is, NATO-KFOR said Serbian officials can visit in their official capacity if they allow custom agents at the admin line and the Serbian gov't agreed. So the entire game is played between Serbia and NATO. The Albanians are glorified middle-managers.
(Ari Gold, 19 February 2014 17:14)

Ok, great... Albanians are happy with that (i.e. it's not Serbia in charge, but NATO); I guess you are happy as well. So everybody is happy - issue solved.

So let's see, 6 years on and...

-Still no UN recognition
-Still no place in the Olympics
-Enough heroin, child prostitutes and extracted organs to go around for everybody
-Not that the average Albanian in Kosovo i Metohija could afford it because theirs still dire poverty unlike anywhere else not only in Serbia but in the rest of Europe.
-Still KLA terrorists winning elections with a 105% turnout
-Still Serbian officials roaming around in Kosovo i Metohija under the illusion that Albanian "officials" are "allowing" them to visit.
-Still Serbs and other ethnic minorities living in ethnic ghettos reminiscent of Nazi Germany . . .

Something to celebrate, these "young Europeans".

Viva La Kosova!!!

A jubilant day indeed, from 1 artificial and historical mistake, you now have 7 independent Republics that will all participate together in the creation of a stable & peaceful Europe! However, I do still hold doubts on 1 of these republics true intentions! Here is a hint ( during the 1990s, they thought they could impose their will on others thru force & barbaric policies, they thought they could defy the civilized & democratic world ) Well, they thought wrong!

@Ari Gold

even if everything you wrote there happens to be true (it isn't), it is still infinitely better than it was when the heavenly people ruled roost. however bad Kosova is today (and there's no doubt that its far from perfect) it's still a much better version than it was under Serbia.

(Rocky, 17 February 2014 12:38)

I doubt your lot would know civilised behaviour or democracy if it bit them on the backside – you still have revenge killings. All the so called Kosova institutions are EU instituations. The EU runs the government, it runs the police, judiciary, administration. So much for your jubilant day.
Sebria has rid it self of all the burdens it had in the past and life will improve there. Look at Slovenia; its bonds were pronounced late last year as junk bonds and last week the same happened to Croatia.
Ask yourself how is Kosova going to survive???????? When you put the old BS about being free in a pot see if that will feed the family.

Congratulations Kosovo.

Ps: ignore the jealous Serbs here commenting.

I didn't know it was just a few days after the aniversary of Serbia's unilateral decleration of independence

Still no UN recognition

Swiss was not a UN member till 2002, and still Swiss was recognized country. Taiwan is not in UN, and is doing just fine.


-Still no place in the Olympics

Spoke to soon. Check IJF rank list who has th6e most olympic points so far.

-Enough heroin, child prostitutes and extracted organs to go around for everybody

You must have mistaken Kosova thinking is serbia.


-Still KLA terrorists winning elections with a 105% turnout

Well, your so called terrorist are preventing your politicians from entering Kosova, and at same time your PM is having lunches&dinners with your so called top terrorists from Kosova.


-Still Serbs and other ethnic minorities living in ethnic ghettos
reminiscent of Nazi Germany . . .

Don't bother talking about other minorities, they can speak for themselves. As for serbs, they chose to barricade themselves in northern Mitro ,ONLY.

(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)


In the end, Happy Independence day KOSOVA.
I hope Ari will join the fireworks tonight.

(the truth, 17 February 2014 14:59)

Ah yes, the Switzerland argument. Because Pristina is always mistaken for Zurich, I know! There is a difference between choosing not to join an organization and not being allowed into an organization. The Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija would love nothing more than a UN seat, but the fact remains is they cannot get one. The last two countries to achieve independence were Montenegro and South Sudan, and these countries joined the UN the very same year. You are going on 6 years later and still lobbying for recognitions and trying to join the UN which has proven to be unsuccessful. How delusional must you be to compare yourselves to the Swiss lol.

Those KLA terrorists are barring Serbian officials? How?! Vulin gets banned every week from entering Kosovo i Metohija and he somehow always makes it there. But the fact remains that if Pristina really is calling the shots, why "allow" Serbian officials to enter Kosovo i Metohija at all? Would that not be counter to your interests? Something Albanians can never answer me straightforward.

"Anniversary of declaration of Kosovo's independence
Source: Beta, Tanjug
BELGRADE -- Monday marks the sixth anniversary since Kosovo's Albanians declared independence, on February 17, 2008."

Well there you have it folks, coming from the horses mouth:)

Congratulations, Kosova, especially Thaci and my other colleagues there! I wished I had an own state 80 years ago instead of some years in prison.

I doubt your lot would know civilised behaviour or democracy if it bit them on the backside – you still have revenge killings.
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

That's true... Probably one of the few things Serbs and Albanians have in common. Serbs are still revenging 1389...
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All the so called Kosova institutions are EU instituations. The EU runs the government, it runs the police, judiciary, administration.
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

I'm sure Kosovars really appreciate that even the CE of B02 forums sj confirms with the above that Serbia is not in charge and does not run Kosovo.
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Sebria has rid it self of all the burdens it had in the past and life will improve there. Look at Slovenia; its bonds were pronounced late last year as junk bonds and last week the same happened to Croatia.
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

Well, Slovenia's bonds last week were still less junk than Serbia's. So, I think, you meant that Slovenia got rid of the Serbian burden.
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Ask yourself how is Kosova going to survive????????
(sj, 17 February 2014 13:53)

The answer is: not by being under Serbia which is a failed state already even without Kosovo.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Still no UN recognition
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)

Swiss was not a UN member till 2002, and still Swiss was recognized country. Taiwan is not in UN, and is doing just fine.
(the truth, 17 February 2014 14:59)

And to add another example... Ukraine was a UN member from 1945 to 1990, but still was not a recognized country.

How comes all these "paradoxes" happen?! Very simple... because contrary to the beliefs of some Serbs, the UN is not in the business of recognition of countries. No country has ever or will ever be recognized by the UN, at least until the UN charter changes to give that power to the UN. The recognition of another country is a sovereign decision of each individual country.

Something is allowed to one ethnic group that was denied to the other. Most prominent European (not Serbian) legal experts declared that no former Yugoslavian republic is to lose part of the territory - then creation of Kosovo is supported!
It's the policy of ethnic discrimination and SUPREMACY, aka fascism. And yes. I was thinking that we might be able to defy this uncivilized and undemocratic, barbaric world. I thought wrong.

Resplendent hyperbole from Rocky as per usual. Your parasitic presence on this website is a constant source of amusement to me, along with your unending and bizarre historical revisionism. You are a class act,which level I'll leave other visitors to decide.

As long as the United States of America breathes, Serbia withers in constant defeat.

Get over it.

Happy Independence Day, Kosovo!
(Josh, 18 February 2014 00:34)

LOL "josh" (c'mon now, you don't expect us to believe that is your real name) thank you for admitting that it wasn't your military but the strongest military on earth that were able to keep Serbia from liberating her holy land. Only the strongest power in the world could keep Serbia from liberating Kosovo i Metohija, and surely no Islamist KLA organ extractors.

However I would disagree with you about the US. If Syria is any sign, the American people are in no mood to engage in conflicts abroad anymore. And the good thing is, as long as KLA criminals roam the streets and continue oppressing the Serbs in enclaves (still cannot reach Northern Kosovo), there will always be ground for liberation.

Sadly, Belgrade itself must be liberated from the Titoists that continue to plague the country. This occupation has been going on since '45, the children of Tito's Partizans and KPJ loyalists are now the elite in Serbia. Once that is settled and the communists are held accountable for their crimes, then we can talk about the holy land.

It's the liberty day for Kosovo and Libya. And soon Syria will join the free peoples of the world too.

Independent Kosovo has no greater friend and ally than Serbia. From eu and FIFA and rokcec logo on ballots to ambassador dejan pavicevic Kosovo can always look to Serbia for a rock solid ally in evey effort to make Kosovo more of a state and that includes Serbia having customs agents and border guards between Kosovo and Serbia. As vucic says Serbia has real borders and dacic dacic says lies were told Kosovo was part of Serbia.

(Brian, 17 February 2014 17:45)

If what you say is true, (and we all know you're just trolling), how do you explain the fact that despite 6 years going by that the Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija still do not have a seat at the UN? So you're telling me, Serbia apparently supports your drive for independence and you STILL cannot get a seat and full recognition from the entire world? That must say what the rest of the world really thinks about Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija if not even Serbia's apparent support is enough to become fully recognized.

Oh and with FIFA, the Albanians were approved to play friendly matches. (Not that they would ever make any major tournament anyway) and no "national" symbols are allowed in the jerseys. This is the same treatment that Catalonia, the Basque region and other territories receive. You are not even on Taiwan's level which actually competes in the Olympics under its own entity. And yes, Serbia had to approve this just as Spain approved its territorial entities competing in friendly's. Thank you for admitting you require Serbia's approval.

But the fact remains that if Pristina really is calling the shots, why "allow" Serbian officials to enter Kosovo i Metohija at all? Would that not be counter to your interests? Something Albanians can never answer me straightforward.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

that question makes no sense... The Russians routinely allow American officials to enter Russia. Does that mean that Moscow does not call the shots in Russia?!!! Not sure I see the logical connection of allowing foreign officials to visit a country being equal to the government of that country not calling the shots!!!!

Anyway, dear, all of these are moot arguments. Let's assume for a moment that everything you said is correct. Is that a reason for Kosovo to accept Serbia's offer of more-than-autonomy-but-less-than-independence? If Kosovo were to accept it, will Kosovo become a UN member? Will Kosovo be allowed to prevent Serbian officials from entering Kosovo? I think we both agree that the answer to those questions is NO.... so I don't get what is the point that you are trying to make, dear!!!!

To make it simple for you... You have to come up with arguments like, Kosovo currently cannot do X; if Kosovo were to be part of Serbia then it will be able to do X. If X is a good thing, there you stand a chance for Kosovo becoming part of Serbia in the future, because it will have a benefit vs the current situation.

Ari, as usual, your comments are ridiculous! Serbia has recognized Kosova's independence, although still unofficially!
Otherwise, why hasn't a sound been heard from Serbia, as in let's say liberating Kosova? It must be that Serbs are the biggest sissys in the world! If we are to listen to your theory's, & if Serbians are that courageous, Then I'm sure that your at least as strong as the Vietnamese? I very much doubt it! Oh, and as to the future when your supposed liberation is going to take place, well it won't be a walk in the park my old friend!!! It's not going to be handed to your Serbia on a golden plate, I assure that much😘
(Rocky, 18 February 2014 23:04)

The Serbian gov't sure as hell would want to. Mainly because they are Titoists at heart and are anti-Serbian to their very core. Never-mind what their supposed ideology is, all elite in Serbia are descendants of communists.

But the question then remains, if Serbia supposedly has recognized the illegal occupation as independence, why cannot the Albanians get full recognition from the rest of the world? When Sudan recognized South Sudan, so did the rest of the world. It seems half the world and the UN doesn't want you even if Serbia says its okay.

Obviously, freedom for Kosovo i Metohija is impossible as long as NATO is there. There's no shame in a small nation not being able to fight the strongest military alliance in the world. You've deluded yourself into thinking that their strength is actually your own.

Yes, of course, we do celebrate this day. The Belgrade regime has been horrible about things, from beginning till now, and yet we have persevered.

There are still some 1700 ppl, mainly Albanian, missing and presumed dead. Enormous pressure needs to be exerted on Belgrade to find the bodies, the remains, or to open the secret files about what happened (for example, the industrialized burning of bodies.) They should be deeply ashamed, but they and their media are as arrogant as ever.

People of all nationalities suffered during the wars and genocides, but Serbia has never apologized or offered reparations. What is wrong with this picture...

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Those KLA terrorists are barring Serbian officials? How?! Vulin gets banned every week from entering Kosovo i Metohija and he somehow always makes it there. But the fact remains that if Pristina really is calling the shots, why "allow" Serbian officials to enter Kosovo i Metohija at all? Would that not be counter to your interests? Something Albanians can never answer me straightforward.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Ari Gold,

As you know Oli is in jail in Prishtina, Vulin will be next.

As long as the United States of America breathes, Serbia withers in constant defeat.

Get over it.

Happy Independence Day, Kosovo!

Since today marks 6 years that Kosovo declared sovereignty and for pro-
independence Kosovars this evidently is your special and meaningful day to reflect on.

I wish I was able to view something regarding the 6 year anniversary on an Albanian-Canadian news magazine called Pasqyra Shqiptare that airs on the OMNI network but since we switched from Rogers Cable to Bell Aliant (an iptv company) Bell Aliant unfortunately doesn't carry OMNI so that's why I'm unable to view Pasqyra Shqiptare and therefore can't view possible footage of the 6 year anniversary on the program.

Finally I'd like to add by saying to pro-sovereign Kosovars that for some of you that for many years when you had to have hopes and aspirations for Kosovo to one day become sovereign you must have persevered and finally on Feb 17,2008 your determination and perseverence paid off.So once again happy anniversary and have yourselves a fantastic day.

As years are going by Serbs are slowly starting to learn. I didn't see one comment from Serbs who say "Kosovo is not, but 'republika srpska' is". That used to make me laugh. Few more years will need to go by for Serbs to start dealing with other MORE important problems.

that question makes no sense... The Russians routinely allow American officials to enter Russia. Does that mean that Moscow does not call the shots in Russia?!!! Not sure I see the logical connection of allowing foreign officials to visit a country being equal to the government of that country not calling the shots!!!!

icj1, 18 February 2014 00:28)

What a ridiculous comparison. The United States recognizes the independence of Russia and vice-versa. Russia does not view the U.S. as an occupier or a wartime foe (as do the KLA leadership in Kosovo i Metohija towards Serbia). And of course, both entities are recognized by the UN.

You are a lot less primitive than your compatriots that love coming on Serbian websites. You can speak well and form coherent sentences so congratulations. But still, that was a horrible comparison.

So, I just applied the same argument to other countries... If you meant that A and B should be enemies for the above to apply, take, for example, US and North Korea - they are much more in conflict than Serbia and Kosovo. Still N. Korea allows officials of US to visit. It certainly does not mean that N. Korea does not call the shots in N. Korea. There is no logical connection between "allowing the visits" and "not calling the shots".
(icj1, 19 February 2014 06:02)

North Korea and the U.S.A recognize each other as sovereign states. The more accurate comparison would be if South Korea recognized the North as belonging to the South and the North "allowing" gov't officials from the South to visit the North, making campaign stops etc. That is what is happening now with the Radical Party in Mitrovica. The reality is, NATO-KFOR said Serbian officials can visit in their official capacity if they allow custom agents at the admin line and the Serbian gov't agreed. So the entire game is played between Serbia and NATO. The Albanians are glorified middle-managers.

North Korea and the U.S.A recognize each other as sovereign states.
(Ari Gold, 19 February 2014 17:14)

OK, so your argument is that if country A and B do not recognize each-other, then, if country A allows officials of country B to visit A, then country A is not in charge of A.

All I'm trying understand is the general principle that you are trying to explain...

"-Not that the average Albanian in Kosovo i Metohija could afford it because theirs still dire poverty unlike anywhere else not only in Serbia but in the rest of Europe."

Something to celebrate, these "young Europeans".
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)

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As opposed to the great lives and thriving economy as well as freedom and pure happiness the Albanians in Presevo Valley enjoy.

Let us be serious.

Things may not be as good as we would like in Kosovo,
However, as bad as things may seem to you, they are whole lot better than being under Serbian occupation.

Ah yes, the Switzerland argument. Because Pristina is always mistaken for Zurich, I know! There is a difference between choosing not to join an organization and not being allowed into an organization. The Albanians in Kosovo i Metohija would love nothing more than a UN seat, but the fact remains is they cannot get one.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Sure, you will be correct if and when Kosovo applies for UN membership and is not allowed to join. But until then, you are obviously wrong, because Kosovo does have the choice to apply for joining the UN or not, the same choice that Switzerland had in 2002.
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The last two countries to achieve independence were Montenegro and South Sudan, and these countries joined the UN the very same year.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Sure, but no, thanks. Kosovo certainly has no desire to be like South Sudan http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/02/counting-dead-south-sudan-2014216115224123347.html
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You are going on 6 years later and still lobbying for recognitions
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Ok, and what's wrong with that, beside the fact that Serbia hates it?
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and trying to join the UN which has proven to be unsuccessful. How delusional must you be to compare yourselves to the Swiss lol.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 19:12)

Trying to join the UN?!!! Please show us Kosovo's application for UN membership. I probably have missed the news.

Congratulations to Kosovo on their independence. To the deniers on here that want to criticize the fact that Kosovo has not reached the level of other countries, I have to ask can you name a country that started from ruins and made as much progress as Kosovo in 6 years??
Afterall if I were to believe the comments here Serbs were here to greet Adam and Eve in the garden of paradise, yet they are still only a couple of steps ahead of Kosovo.

-Still Serbian officials roaming around in Kosovo i Metohija under the illusion that Albanian "officials" are "allowing" them to visit.
-Still Serbs and other ethnic minorities living in ethnic ghettos reminiscent of Nazi Germany . . .

Something to celebrate, these "young Europeans".
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2014 13:17)

Ari Gold, it is called freedom of movement, something which democratic societies participate in. Unfortunately Serb politicians use it for ulterior motives. Regardless, your statements contradict one another.

What a ridiculous comparison. The United States recognizes the independence of Russia and vice-versa. Russia does not view the U.S. as an occupier or a wartime foe (as do the KLA leadership in Kosovo i Metohija towards Serbia). And of course, both entities are recognized by the UN.

You are a lot less primitive than your compatriots that love coming on Serbian websites. You can speak well and form coherent sentences so congratulations. But still, that was a horrible comparison.
(Ari Gold, 18 February 2014 10:21)

You said that if A (Kosovo) allows officials of B (Serbia) to enter Kosovo, than (A) does not call the shots in (A).

So, I just applied the same argument to other countries... If you meant that A and B should be enemies for the above to apply, take, for example, US and North Korea - they are much more in conflict than Serbia and Kosovo. Still N. Korea allows officials of US to visit. It certainly does not mean that N. Korea does not call the shots in N. Korea. There is no logical connection between "allowing the visits" and "not calling the shots".

The reality is, NATO-KFOR said Serbian officials can visit in their official capacity if they allow custom agents at the admin line and the Serbian gov't agreed. So the entire game is played between Serbia and NATO. The Albanians are glorified middle-managers.
(Ari Gold, 19 February 2014 17:14)

Ok, great... Albanians are happy with that (i.e. it's not Serbia in charge, but NATO); I guess you are happy as well. So everybody is happy - issue solved.

What a ridiculous comparison. The United States recognizes the independence of Russia and vice-versa. Russia does not view the U.S. as an occupier or a wartime foe (as do the KLA leadership in Kosovo i Metohija towards Serbia). And of course, both entities are recognized by the UN.

You are a lot less primitive than your compatriots that love coming on Serbian websites. You can speak well and form coherent sentences so congratulations. But still, that was a horrible comparison.
(Ari Gold, 18 February 2014 10:21)

Ari, as usual, your comments are ridiculous! Serbia has recognized Kosova's independence, although still unofficially!
Otherwise, why hasn't a sound been heard from Serbia, as in let's say liberating Kosova? It must be that Serbs are the biggest sissys in the world! If we are to listen to your theory's, & if Serbians are that courageous, Then I'm sure that your at least as strong as the Vietnamese? I very much doubt it! Oh, and as to the future when your supposed liberation is going to take place, well it won't be a walk in the park my old friend!!! It's not going to be handed to your Serbia on a golden plate, I assure that much😘