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Tuesday, 04.02.2014.

11:53

Ukraine stands on edge - we should do more to bring it back

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Grobar1

pre 10 godina

It's funny how these albo trolls know everything from politics to other countries constitution's it's like the world revolves around them.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2014 11:05)

To debate the issue of who gave what to Ukraine is not that relevant in this forum, but if it will settle the question I admit that I name the wrong person.
On another matter, Nikita Khrushchev was an ethnic Russian who controlled the Ukraine. He was not Ukrainian.
Professor Ash has written so many articles on various issues ranging from the Balkans to Asia so I’m not sure what expertise he has as I would have fired him from a teaching position since he hasn’t got one thing right so far. This man is a paid propagandist - his essays are disguised as academic work, but it’s not as its pure rubbish.
Having said all that lets replace the word Stalin with Khrushchev and now tell me what part of my comment is wrong????????
(sj, 9 February 2014 23:53)


sj,

You may fantasize all you want, but you lack both the qualifications and position to fire anyone. In fact, you don't seem to understand the issues at hand. However, it is B92's call to allow you to rant on, and as a result, lower the quality of its forums. In the mean time, you give us all something to chuckle about. Thanks for the entertainment!

Sum Ting Wong

pre 10 godina

The overwhelming majority of Russians despise Putin and Janukovich.
The overwhelming majority of Ukrainians despise Putin and Janukovich.
The majority of Russians and Ukrainians did / would vote for both.

Time to think for "West": maybe something went wrong at home... and these votes are merely a reaction to that "Sum Ting Wong". Hint-hint: what happens if you rape these countries while mercifully + humanitarily + democratically bomb a third one? Hint-hint-hint: you and your "democracy" will be hated as much as the cleptocracy + "our" SOB-s. Unfortunately for you, these SOB-s are "our" SOB-s, while that bombing democracy is YOUR democracy and YOUR lies.

sj

pre 10 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2014 11:05)

To debate the issue of who gave what to Ukraine is not that relevant in this forum, but if it will settle the question I admit that I name the wrong person.
On another matter, Nikita Khrushchev was an ethnic Russian who controlled the Ukraine. He was not Ukrainian.
Professor Ash has written so many articles on various issues ranging from the Balkans to Asia so I’m not sure what expertise he has as I would have fired him from a teaching position since he hasn’t got one thing right so far. This man is a paid propagandist - his essays are disguised as academic work, but it’s not as its pure rubbish.
Having said all that lets replace the word Stalin with Khrushchev and now tell me what part of my comment is wrong????????

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Who should we listen to, an expert in East European history, that is, a professor from Oxford Univ. or a gadfly who has difficulty identifying which Russian leader gave part of Russia to the Ukraine!

Sreten

pre 10 godina

Good observation sj. I just have to make minor correction.

It was Nikita Khrushchev (Ukrainian) who gave part of Russia to Ukraine.

sj

pre 10 godina

It requires more than 1500 words to do justice to this piece of fantasy by Professor Ash. In summary the Ukraine needs billions of Euros to try and kick start their economy while the EU/US do not have the money to give to Ukraine. I have been saying this for a long time that the west is running on empty tank and he is the evidence so many were screaming for.
Ukraine is divided into two camps; the west is mostly catholic and leans towards the west, but it’s the poor part of the country while the eastern side is the wealthy section and they are mainly Russians and want to stay with Russia. The eastern part used to be in the old Russian empire but it was given to Ukraine by Stalin.
The Russians are in the drivers’ seat as Moscow has the money Kiev needs and if they piss off Putin he will tear Ukraine apart by taking the eastern side while leave the poorer part to Europe and the US. If you think this is not possible perhaps the Georgia with breakaway republics might stir up some memories.
Love this part “But if the British prime minister ….. he has a private word with those key swing-players in Ukraine, the oligarchs.” As if they can do stand against Moscow. Brits like Professor Ash need to get it through their thick sculls that there is no Great Britain except in the imagination of some people living in the UK.

sj

pre 10 godina

It requires more than 1500 words to do justice to this piece of fantasy by Professor Ash. In summary the Ukraine needs billions of Euros to try and kick start their economy while the EU/US do not have the money to give to Ukraine. I have been saying this for a long time that the west is running on empty tank and he is the evidence so many were screaming for.
Ukraine is divided into two camps; the west is mostly catholic and leans towards the west, but it’s the poor part of the country while the eastern side is the wealthy section and they are mainly Russians and want to stay with Russia. The eastern part used to be in the old Russian empire but it was given to Ukraine by Stalin.
The Russians are in the drivers’ seat as Moscow has the money Kiev needs and if they piss off Putin he will tear Ukraine apart by taking the eastern side while leave the poorer part to Europe and the US. If you think this is not possible perhaps the Georgia with breakaway republics might stir up some memories.
Love this part “But if the British prime minister ….. he has a private word with those key swing-players in Ukraine, the oligarchs.” As if they can do stand against Moscow. Brits like Professor Ash need to get it through their thick sculls that there is no Great Britain except in the imagination of some people living in the UK.

Sreten

pre 10 godina

Good observation sj. I just have to make minor correction.

It was Nikita Khrushchev (Ukrainian) who gave part of Russia to Ukraine.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Who should we listen to, an expert in East European history, that is, a professor from Oxford Univ. or a gadfly who has difficulty identifying which Russian leader gave part of Russia to the Ukraine!

sj

pre 10 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2014 11:05)

To debate the issue of who gave what to Ukraine is not that relevant in this forum, but if it will settle the question I admit that I name the wrong person.
On another matter, Nikita Khrushchev was an ethnic Russian who controlled the Ukraine. He was not Ukrainian.
Professor Ash has written so many articles on various issues ranging from the Balkans to Asia so I’m not sure what expertise he has as I would have fired him from a teaching position since he hasn’t got one thing right so far. This man is a paid propagandist - his essays are disguised as academic work, but it’s not as its pure rubbish.
Having said all that lets replace the word Stalin with Khrushchev and now tell me what part of my comment is wrong????????

Sum Ting Wong

pre 10 godina

The overwhelming majority of Russians despise Putin and Janukovich.
The overwhelming majority of Ukrainians despise Putin and Janukovich.
The majority of Russians and Ukrainians did / would vote for both.

Time to think for "West": maybe something went wrong at home... and these votes are merely a reaction to that "Sum Ting Wong". Hint-hint: what happens if you rape these countries while mercifully + humanitarily + democratically bomb a third one? Hint-hint-hint: you and your "democracy" will be hated as much as the cleptocracy + "our" SOB-s. Unfortunately for you, these SOB-s are "our" SOB-s, while that bombing democracy is YOUR democracy and YOUR lies.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2014 11:05)

To debate the issue of who gave what to Ukraine is not that relevant in this forum, but if it will settle the question I admit that I name the wrong person.
On another matter, Nikita Khrushchev was an ethnic Russian who controlled the Ukraine. He was not Ukrainian.
Professor Ash has written so many articles on various issues ranging from the Balkans to Asia so I’m not sure what expertise he has as I would have fired him from a teaching position since he hasn’t got one thing right so far. This man is a paid propagandist - his essays are disguised as academic work, but it’s not as its pure rubbish.
Having said all that lets replace the word Stalin with Khrushchev and now tell me what part of my comment is wrong????????
(sj, 9 February 2014 23:53)


sj,

You may fantasize all you want, but you lack both the qualifications and position to fire anyone. In fact, you don't seem to understand the issues at hand. However, it is B92's call to allow you to rant on, and as a result, lower the quality of its forums. In the mean time, you give us all something to chuckle about. Thanks for the entertainment!

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

It's funny how these albo trolls know everything from politics to other countries constitution's it's like the world revolves around them.

sj

pre 10 godina

It requires more than 1500 words to do justice to this piece of fantasy by Professor Ash. In summary the Ukraine needs billions of Euros to try and kick start their economy while the EU/US do not have the money to give to Ukraine. I have been saying this for a long time that the west is running on empty tank and he is the evidence so many were screaming for.
Ukraine is divided into two camps; the west is mostly catholic and leans towards the west, but it’s the poor part of the country while the eastern side is the wealthy section and they are mainly Russians and want to stay with Russia. The eastern part used to be in the old Russian empire but it was given to Ukraine by Stalin.
The Russians are in the drivers’ seat as Moscow has the money Kiev needs and if they piss off Putin he will tear Ukraine apart by taking the eastern side while leave the poorer part to Europe and the US. If you think this is not possible perhaps the Georgia with breakaway republics might stir up some memories.
Love this part “But if the British prime minister ….. he has a private word with those key swing-players in Ukraine, the oligarchs.” As if they can do stand against Moscow. Brits like Professor Ash need to get it through their thick sculls that there is no Great Britain except in the imagination of some people living in the UK.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Who should we listen to, an expert in East European history, that is, a professor from Oxford Univ. or a gadfly who has difficulty identifying which Russian leader gave part of Russia to the Ukraine!

sj

pre 10 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2014 11:05)

To debate the issue of who gave what to Ukraine is not that relevant in this forum, but if it will settle the question I admit that I name the wrong person.
On another matter, Nikita Khrushchev was an ethnic Russian who controlled the Ukraine. He was not Ukrainian.
Professor Ash has written so many articles on various issues ranging from the Balkans to Asia so I’m not sure what expertise he has as I would have fired him from a teaching position since he hasn’t got one thing right so far. This man is a paid propagandist - his essays are disguised as academic work, but it’s not as its pure rubbish.
Having said all that lets replace the word Stalin with Khrushchev and now tell me what part of my comment is wrong????????

Sum Ting Wong

pre 10 godina

The overwhelming majority of Russians despise Putin and Janukovich.
The overwhelming majority of Ukrainians despise Putin and Janukovich.
The majority of Russians and Ukrainians did / would vote for both.

Time to think for "West": maybe something went wrong at home... and these votes are merely a reaction to that "Sum Ting Wong". Hint-hint: what happens if you rape these countries while mercifully + humanitarily + democratically bomb a third one? Hint-hint-hint: you and your "democracy" will be hated as much as the cleptocracy + "our" SOB-s. Unfortunately for you, these SOB-s are "our" SOB-s, while that bombing democracy is YOUR democracy and YOUR lies.

Sreten

pre 10 godina

Good observation sj. I just have to make minor correction.

It was Nikita Khrushchev (Ukrainian) who gave part of Russia to Ukraine.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2014 11:05)

To debate the issue of who gave what to Ukraine is not that relevant in this forum, but if it will settle the question I admit that I name the wrong person.
On another matter, Nikita Khrushchev was an ethnic Russian who controlled the Ukraine. He was not Ukrainian.
Professor Ash has written so many articles on various issues ranging from the Balkans to Asia so I’m not sure what expertise he has as I would have fired him from a teaching position since he hasn’t got one thing right so far. This man is a paid propagandist - his essays are disguised as academic work, but it’s not as its pure rubbish.
Having said all that lets replace the word Stalin with Khrushchev and now tell me what part of my comment is wrong????????
(sj, 9 February 2014 23:53)


sj,

You may fantasize all you want, but you lack both the qualifications and position to fire anyone. In fact, you don't seem to understand the issues at hand. However, it is B92's call to allow you to rant on, and as a result, lower the quality of its forums. In the mean time, you give us all something to chuckle about. Thanks for the entertainment!

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

It's funny how these albo trolls know everything from politics to other countries constitution's it's like the world revolves around them.