thanasis
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I don't know if Serbia is the master of the universe but it's certainly the master of your universe since you spend days and nights on a serbian site
Friday, 10.01.2014.
16:05
The International Federation of Association Football (FIFA) postponed the decision on whether to allow Kosovo teams to play friendly games.
Izvor: Tanjug
pre 10 godina
I don't know if Serbia is the master of the universe but it's certainly the master of your universe since you spend days and nights on a serbian site
pre 10 godina
Well my Albanian friend you can be as ironic as you want, you can even brag about your smartness with your friends in your hometown cafe, but that doesn't change the fact that you need Serbia's consent in order to join organizations of which Serbia is already a member. What a pity!
(thanasis, 15 January 2014 18:24)
That's not correct. For example, Serbia is a member of IMF, still Kosovo joined regardless of Serbia's wishes. Sorry dear for shattering your dreams that Serbia is the master of the universe :)
pre 10 godina
Well my Albanian friend you can be as ironic as you want, you can even brag about your smartness with your friends in your hometown cafe, but that doesn't change the fact that you need Serbia's consent in order to join organizations of which Serbia is already a member. What a pity!
pre 10 godina
As for Kosovo, it is a self-proclaimed independent country and its partecipation in international organisations (at least the ones that matter) has to have the consent of Serbia.
(thanasis, 14 January 2014 20:35)
Ha ha, I guess the new definition of "important international organization" is the following:
"An international organization is considered important if, and only if, a country can join it with Serbia's consent."
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Wales Scotland and N. Ireland play football on an international level even though they're not independent countries but parts of the UK, because they and England have had separate football federations virtually since the beginning of football. The UK case in football is unique and it is owing to the fact that they invented football. It doesn't have much to do with politics. As for Kosovo, it is a self-proclaimed independent country and its partecipation in international organisations (at least the ones that matter) has to have the consent of Serbia. Now that doesn't mean that Kosovar Albanians are prevented from playing football on an international level since they can all play for Albania. I think that Lorik Cana is from Kosovo, am i wrong?
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But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
I guess you just meant "UN member states" since it has nothing to do with international recognition of states. Indeed, there is not a single state which has been recognized by the UN, so far.
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"LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned." (Daniel, 11 January 2014 12:41)
You're missing the point here quite badly. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are not independent states but part of UK and non UN members. Therefore, following your own logic, this shouldn't be a barrier for Kosovo to join FIFA and UEFA as non independent state or UN member?
The problem with the Serb Federation is that they're badly trying to delay the decision and bizarrely contradicting themselves. Such a mess!
pre 10 godina
Serbia was able to cause a big delay in the decision afterall they waited through the WHOLE weekend to announce that Kosovo mens teams could play friendly games with members of the FIFA.
pre 10 godina
FIFA has authorized the Kosovo national team to play friendlies. Shaqiri Behrami and other Xhaka, international Swiss far will they change jerseys?
But the Kosovo case progresses, and it should cause some questions in the minds of some players - and leaders - of Swiss football.
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"LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned."
(Daniel, 11 January 2014 12:41)
Well, maybe he wonders why Kosovo, as a province of Serbia, is not allowed to have an own team while provinces of the UK are allowed?
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Herman Hose just to correct you.There will be many Serbians playing at the World Cup. If you hadn't realised Croatia and Bosnia-Hercegovina have both qualified. Those teams are almost completely made up of descendants of Serbs who were either forcibly converted to Catholicism or Islam. They can deny it all they like but just look at them they all look the same to me and the genes don't lie.
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Albanians who live in Serbia can play for Serbian national team.
Just as is the case in EVERY member of FIFA.
So why a special deal for Kosovo province?
No, don't!
pre 10 godina
Put them up against Serbia. They'll get cleansed - then the discussion will end.
pre 10 godina
Although I understand people's frustrations, sport cannot be separated from politics. Politics is not some self contained concept for the amusement of the 'elite', it is life itself and affects every facet of our daily routines. We have a Minister for Sport in the UK as I imagine that Serbia does too, that must tell you something. There is clearly more at stake here than the occasional game of football.
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The decision will be made after the opening of chapter 35 which will gauge how quickly Serbia talks with the EU will go, there might be a change of heart shortly afterward, we'll see.
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You don't have to be a UN member in order to be a member of Internationale Federation.
me
Well according to the UEFA and FIFA statute you have to be a UN member to be a member of those organizations, what does football have to do with Judo? These are completely different organizations.
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Gibraltar and Palestine are not UN members either and yet they are allowed to play. Kosovo is not being allowed to play because of Platini and Blatter.The first one is a filo-serb a good friend with the ex-president of serbian federation, and the second one is a Swiss whose national team is made almost all of Kosovo albanians that would choose Kosovo before Switzerland if they had the chance.
(Mark, 10 January 2014 23:06)
Thats strange because I have never seen Gibraltar or Palestine play in the World Cup or European Cup qualifications, let alone the later stages.
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Now I know that Scotland,Northen Irland,Wales,Giblartar e several other teams which are playing in World Cup,are members of UN.Thanks for the enlightment!
LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned.
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Majlinda Kelmendi - she is from that mafia family for sure and all the wresting bouts were arranged, or to be more precise, all her opponents were threatened by albo mafia - everyone knows what those talibanians are capable of - where there is an talibanian there expect blood, crimes and the tears - whether the other normal people or their own (since the Kanun prescribes that). it is wise not to invite talibanians to play in other countries - once they stole a wrist-watch from G. Bush then one may only guess what will happen to others - so called ordinary mortals?
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Interesting to note that none of the players born of Albanian heritage want to play for Albania. that tells you something.
pre 10 godina
Politics and sports. Politics and religion. Never a got combinations. But they will always fire back, with interests.
pre 10 godina
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
Gibraltar and Palestine are not UN members either and yet they are allowed to play. Kosovo is not being allowed to play because of Platini and Blatter.The first one is a filo-serb a good friend with the ex-president of serbian federation, and the second one is a Swiss whose national team is made almost all of Kosovo albanians that would choose Kosovo before Switzerland if they had the chance.
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@ mirel from talibania you albanians dont listen Kosovo is not a country it's Serbian southern province .... I luv it.
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Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play.
(Ari Gold
Arignorant spoketh again.
In the 80s Kosovo Albanians dominated boxing in Yugoslavia.
Today, there are many gifted soccer players playing at the highest levels all across Europe.
As far as FIFA's decision, I personally like the idea of K Albanians playing for Albania.
pre 10 godina
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
Now I know that Scotland,Northen Irland,Wales,Giblartar e several other teams which are playing in World Cup,are members of UN.Thanks for the enlightment!
Secondly,Kosovo is now asking for atendance in FIFA World Cup or UEFA Championship.What they are asking from FIFA is to be allow to play only FRIENDLY matches.
But as a serb that constantly spread hatered against albanians in every coment u make,I dont excpect to agree with me.
Laku noch!
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@AriGold
"Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play"
There are 5 albanians playing for Switzerland. There are going to be 5 albanians playing in the World Cup this year, and no serb will be playing in the World Cup this year.
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"And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football! "
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
You don't have to be a UN member in order to be a member of Internationale Federation. Kosova Judo Federation is a member of IJF(Internationale Judo Federation), despite the fact that GAZPROM is controlled by Putin, is the main sponsor of IJF. Check IJF web site who was the world champion in 2013 in Brasil in category of 52 kg?
Well, it was Majlinda Kelmendi and she represented Kosova with flag and national anthem, when she beat Erica Miranda of Brasil in finals. These are the facts.
This goes for Ari Gold too.
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If it is like that, why discuss it at all? Are the football teams from Taiwan or Northern Cyprus allowed to participate in international matches?
(Questioner, 10 January 2014 18:17)
No but Gilbartar was just allowed despite protests from Spain. It is coming and Serbia knows it. It's a matter of time. Initially it will be international friendlies. At a later time, membership. That is why there are discussions and this is not a closed case issue. The more Kosova Albanians play for big clubs in Europe the easier it is to make the case. Everyone sympathizes when they see ManU players and Bayern Munich players not being able to play for the national team they love. It paints FIFA, UEFA and Serbia in bad light and as antagonists. I don't know about Serbia, but FIFA and UEFA care about their image, especially after corruption scandals. It costs them nothing to grant international friendlies even without official membership status. It's simply a matter of time.
pre 10 godina
"The UEFA statute clearly states that the membership in this organization is allowed to national football associations only if the country is recognized by the UN as an independent state"
If it is like that, why discuss it at all? Are the football teams from Taiwan or Northern Cyprus allowed to participate in international matches?
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"And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football! "
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
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And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football!
Thank God Kosovo is finally from this scums!
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
How is Serbia strong enough to stop an "independent country" from play football? Serbia could not stop... Bolivia from playing football, how could it stop Kosovo?
lolol, eventually Serbia will probably allow some friendly games and such. Just as Catalonia and the Basque region does, but those only came with Spain's permission just as the Albanians will only play with Serbia's permission.
Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play.
pre 10 godina
But is this right what FSS is protesting? If you think about it politics and sports don't mix.
pre 10 godina
And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football!
Thank God Kosovo is finally from this scums!
pre 10 godina
@ mirel from talibania you albanians dont listen Kosovo is not a country it's Serbian southern province .... I luv it.
pre 10 godina
And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football!
Thank God Kosovo is finally from this scums!
pre 10 godina
"And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football! "
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
pre 10 godina
Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play.
(Ari Gold
Arignorant spoketh again.
In the 80s Kosovo Albanians dominated boxing in Yugoslavia.
Today, there are many gifted soccer players playing at the highest levels all across Europe.
As far as FIFA's decision, I personally like the idea of K Albanians playing for Albania.
pre 10 godina
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
Gibraltar and Palestine are not UN members either and yet they are allowed to play. Kosovo is not being allowed to play because of Platini and Blatter.The first one is a filo-serb a good friend with the ex-president of serbian federation, and the second one is a Swiss whose national team is made almost all of Kosovo albanians that would choose Kosovo before Switzerland if they had the chance.
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@AriGold
"Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play"
There are 5 albanians playing for Switzerland. There are going to be 5 albanians playing in the World Cup this year, and no serb will be playing in the World Cup this year.
pre 10 godina
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
Now I know that Scotland,Northen Irland,Wales,Giblartar e several other teams which are playing in World Cup,are members of UN.Thanks for the enlightment!
Secondly,Kosovo is now asking for atendance in FIFA World Cup or UEFA Championship.What they are asking from FIFA is to be allow to play only FRIENDLY matches.
But as a serb that constantly spread hatered against albanians in every coment u make,I dont excpect to agree with me.
Laku noch!
pre 10 godina
And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football!
Thank God Kosovo is finally from this scums!
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
How is Serbia strong enough to stop an "independent country" from play football? Serbia could not stop... Bolivia from playing football, how could it stop Kosovo?
lolol, eventually Serbia will probably allow some friendly games and such. Just as Catalonia and the Basque region does, but those only came with Spain's permission just as the Albanians will only play with Serbia's permission.
Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play.
pre 10 godina
"And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football! "
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
You don't have to be a UN member in order to be a member of Internationale Federation. Kosova Judo Federation is a member of IJF(Internationale Judo Federation), despite the fact that GAZPROM is controlled by Putin, is the main sponsor of IJF. Check IJF web site who was the world champion in 2013 in Brasil in category of 52 kg?
Well, it was Majlinda Kelmendi and she represented Kosova with flag and national anthem, when she beat Erica Miranda of Brasil in finals. These are the facts.
This goes for Ari Gold too.
pre 10 godina
Politics and sports. Politics and religion. Never a got combinations. But they will always fire back, with interests.
pre 10 godina
"The UEFA statute clearly states that the membership in this organization is allowed to national football associations only if the country is recognized by the UN as an independent state"
If it is like that, why discuss it at all? Are the football teams from Taiwan or Northern Cyprus allowed to participate in international matches?
pre 10 godina
If it is like that, why discuss it at all? Are the football teams from Taiwan or Northern Cyprus allowed to participate in international matches?
(Questioner, 10 January 2014 18:17)
No but Gilbartar was just allowed despite protests from Spain. It is coming and Serbia knows it. It's a matter of time. Initially it will be international friendlies. At a later time, membership. That is why there are discussions and this is not a closed case issue. The more Kosova Albanians play for big clubs in Europe the easier it is to make the case. Everyone sympathizes when they see ManU players and Bayern Munich players not being able to play for the national team they love. It paints FIFA, UEFA and Serbia in bad light and as antagonists. I don't know about Serbia, but FIFA and UEFA care about their image, especially after corruption scandals. It costs them nothing to grant international friendlies even without official membership status. It's simply a matter of time.
pre 10 godina
But is this right what FSS is protesting? If you think about it politics and sports don't mix.
pre 10 godina
Serbia was able to cause a big delay in the decision afterall they waited through the WHOLE weekend to announce that Kosovo mens teams could play friendly games with members of the FIFA.
pre 10 godina
As for Kosovo, it is a self-proclaimed independent country and its partecipation in international organisations (at least the ones that matter) has to have the consent of Serbia.
(thanasis, 14 January 2014 20:35)
Ha ha, I guess the new definition of "important international organization" is the following:
"An international organization is considered important if, and only if, a country can join it with Serbia's consent."
pre 10 godina
FIFA has authorized the Kosovo national team to play friendlies. Shaqiri Behrami and other Xhaka, international Swiss far will they change jerseys?
But the Kosovo case progresses, and it should cause some questions in the minds of some players - and leaders - of Swiss football.
pre 10 godina
Interesting to note that none of the players born of Albanian heritage want to play for Albania. that tells you something.
pre 10 godina
Herman Hose just to correct you.There will be many Serbians playing at the World Cup. If you hadn't realised Croatia and Bosnia-Hercegovina have both qualified. Those teams are almost completely made up of descendants of Serbs who were either forcibly converted to Catholicism or Islam. They can deny it all they like but just look at them they all look the same to me and the genes don't lie.
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"LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned."
(Daniel, 11 January 2014 12:41)
Well, maybe he wonders why Kosovo, as a province of Serbia, is not allowed to have an own team while provinces of the UK are allowed?
pre 10 godina
Gibraltar and Palestine are not UN members either and yet they are allowed to play. Kosovo is not being allowed to play because of Platini and Blatter.The first one is a filo-serb a good friend with the ex-president of serbian federation, and the second one is a Swiss whose national team is made almost all of Kosovo albanians that would choose Kosovo before Switzerland if they had the chance.
(Mark, 10 January 2014 23:06)
Thats strange because I have never seen Gibraltar or Palestine play in the World Cup or European Cup qualifications, let alone the later stages.
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Now I know that Scotland,Northen Irland,Wales,Giblartar e several other teams which are playing in World Cup,are members of UN.Thanks for the enlightment!
LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned.
pre 10 godina
The decision will be made after the opening of chapter 35 which will gauge how quickly Serbia talks with the EU will go, there might be a change of heart shortly afterward, we'll see.
pre 10 godina
Albanians who live in Serbia can play for Serbian national team.
Just as is the case in EVERY member of FIFA.
So why a special deal for Kosovo province?
No, don't!
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"LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned." (Daniel, 11 January 2014 12:41)
You're missing the point here quite badly. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are not independent states but part of UK and non UN members. Therefore, following your own logic, this shouldn't be a barrier for Kosovo to join FIFA and UEFA as non independent state or UN member?
The problem with the Serb Federation is that they're badly trying to delay the decision and bizarrely contradicting themselves. Such a mess!
pre 10 godina
Well my Albanian friend you can be as ironic as you want, you can even brag about your smartness with your friends in your hometown cafe, but that doesn't change the fact that you need Serbia's consent in order to join organizations of which Serbia is already a member. What a pity!
(thanasis, 15 January 2014 18:24)
That's not correct. For example, Serbia is a member of IMF, still Kosovo joined regardless of Serbia's wishes. Sorry dear for shattering your dreams that Serbia is the master of the universe :)
pre 10 godina
Majlinda Kelmendi - she is from that mafia family for sure and all the wresting bouts were arranged, or to be more precise, all her opponents were threatened by albo mafia - everyone knows what those talibanians are capable of - where there is an talibanian there expect blood, crimes and the tears - whether the other normal people or their own (since the Kanun prescribes that). it is wise not to invite talibanians to play in other countries - once they stole a wrist-watch from G. Bush then one may only guess what will happen to others - so called ordinary mortals?
pre 10 godina
You don't have to be a UN member in order to be a member of Internationale Federation.
me
Well according to the UEFA and FIFA statute you have to be a UN member to be a member of those organizations, what does football have to do with Judo? These are completely different organizations.
pre 10 godina
Put them up against Serbia. They'll get cleansed - then the discussion will end.
pre 10 godina
But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
I guess you just meant "UN member states" since it has nothing to do with international recognition of states. Indeed, there is not a single state which has been recognized by the UN, so far.
pre 10 godina
Well my Albanian friend you can be as ironic as you want, you can even brag about your smartness with your friends in your hometown cafe, but that doesn't change the fact that you need Serbia's consent in order to join organizations of which Serbia is already a member. What a pity!
pre 10 godina
Although I understand people's frustrations, sport cannot be separated from politics. Politics is not some self contained concept for the amusement of the 'elite', it is life itself and affects every facet of our daily routines. We have a Minister for Sport in the UK as I imagine that Serbia does too, that must tell you something. There is clearly more at stake here than the occasional game of football.
pre 10 godina
Wales Scotland and N. Ireland play football on an international level even though they're not independent countries but parts of the UK, because they and England have had separate football federations virtually since the beginning of football. The UK case in football is unique and it is owing to the fact that they invented football. It doesn't have much to do with politics. As for Kosovo, it is a self-proclaimed independent country and its partecipation in international organisations (at least the ones that matter) has to have the consent of Serbia. Now that doesn't mean that Kosovar Albanians are prevented from playing football on an international level since they can all play for Albania. I think that Lorik Cana is from Kosovo, am i wrong?
pre 10 godina
I don't know if Serbia is the master of the universe but it's certainly the master of your universe since you spend days and nights on a serbian site
pre 10 godina
And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football!
Thank God Kosovo is finally from this scums!
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
How is Serbia strong enough to stop an "independent country" from play football? Serbia could not stop... Bolivia from playing football, how could it stop Kosovo?
lolol, eventually Serbia will probably allow some friendly games and such. Just as Catalonia and the Basque region does, but those only came with Spain's permission just as the Albanians will only play with Serbia's permission.
Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play.
pre 10 godina
@ mirel from talibania you albanians dont listen Kosovo is not a country it's Serbian southern province .... I luv it.
pre 10 godina
And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football!
Thank God Kosovo is finally from this scums!
pre 10 godina
"And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football! "
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
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@AriGold
"Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play"
There are 5 albanians playing for Switzerland. There are going to be 5 albanians playing in the World Cup this year, and no serb will be playing in the World Cup this year.
pre 10 godina
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
Now I know that Scotland,Northen Irland,Wales,Giblartar e several other teams which are playing in World Cup,are members of UN.Thanks for the enlightment!
Secondly,Kosovo is now asking for atendance in FIFA World Cup or UEFA Championship.What they are asking from FIFA is to be allow to play only FRIENDLY matches.
But as a serb that constantly spread hatered against albanians in every coment u make,I dont excpect to agree with me.
Laku noch!
pre 10 godina
"And you excpect to get rescpect from albanians after stopping them to even play football! "
(Mirel from Albania, 10 January 2014 16:20)
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
You don't have to be a UN member in order to be a member of Internationale Federation. Kosova Judo Federation is a member of IJF(Internationale Judo Federation), despite the fact that GAZPROM is controlled by Putin, is the main sponsor of IJF. Check IJF web site who was the world champion in 2013 in Brasil in category of 52 kg?
Well, it was Majlinda Kelmendi and she represented Kosova with flag and national anthem, when she beat Erica Miranda of Brasil in finals. These are the facts.
This goes for Ari Gold too.
pre 10 godina
Not that it matters though. Albanians have never really been athletically gifted. You would finish at the bottom of every group if you theoretically could play.
(Ari Gold
Arignorant spoketh again.
In the 80s Kosovo Albanians dominated boxing in Yugoslavia.
Today, there are many gifted soccer players playing at the highest levels all across Europe.
As far as FIFA's decision, I personally like the idea of K Albanians playing for Albania.
pre 10 godina
Nobody stops Albania from playing football. And Serbia is in no position to stop anyone at all. But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
Gibraltar and Palestine are not UN members either and yet they are allowed to play. Kosovo is not being allowed to play because of Platini and Blatter.The first one is a filo-serb a good friend with the ex-president of serbian federation, and the second one is a Swiss whose national team is made almost all of Kosovo albanians that would choose Kosovo before Switzerland if they had the chance.
pre 10 godina
But is this right what FSS is protesting? If you think about it politics and sports don't mix.
pre 10 godina
If it is like that, why discuss it at all? Are the football teams from Taiwan or Northern Cyprus allowed to participate in international matches?
(Questioner, 10 January 2014 18:17)
No but Gilbartar was just allowed despite protests from Spain. It is coming and Serbia knows it. It's a matter of time. Initially it will be international friendlies. At a later time, membership. That is why there are discussions and this is not a closed case issue. The more Kosova Albanians play for big clubs in Europe the easier it is to make the case. Everyone sympathizes when they see ManU players and Bayern Munich players not being able to play for the national team they love. It paints FIFA, UEFA and Serbia in bad light and as antagonists. I don't know about Serbia, but FIFA and UEFA care about their image, especially after corruption scandals. It costs them nothing to grant international friendlies even without official membership status. It's simply a matter of time.
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Majlinda Kelmendi - she is from that mafia family for sure and all the wresting bouts were arranged, or to be more precise, all her opponents were threatened by albo mafia - everyone knows what those talibanians are capable of - where there is an talibanian there expect blood, crimes and the tears - whether the other normal people or their own (since the Kanun prescribes that). it is wise not to invite talibanians to play in other countries - once they stole a wrist-watch from G. Bush then one may only guess what will happen to others - so called ordinary mortals?
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Albanians who live in Serbia can play for Serbian national team.
Just as is the case in EVERY member of FIFA.
So why a special deal for Kosovo province?
No, don't!
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Herman Hose just to correct you.There will be many Serbians playing at the World Cup. If you hadn't realised Croatia and Bosnia-Hercegovina have both qualified. Those teams are almost completely made up of descendants of Serbs who were either forcibly converted to Catholicism or Islam. They can deny it all they like but just look at them they all look the same to me and the genes don't lie.
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Put them up against Serbia. They'll get cleansed - then the discussion will end.
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Interesting to note that none of the players born of Albanian heritage want to play for Albania. that tells you something.
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Gibraltar and Palestine are not UN members either and yet they are allowed to play. Kosovo is not being allowed to play because of Platini and Blatter.The first one is a filo-serb a good friend with the ex-president of serbian federation, and the second one is a Swiss whose national team is made almost all of Kosovo albanians that would choose Kosovo before Switzerland if they had the chance.
(Mark, 10 January 2014 23:06)
Thats strange because I have never seen Gibraltar or Palestine play in the World Cup or European Cup qualifications, let alone the later stages.
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You don't have to be a UN member in order to be a member of Internationale Federation.
me
Well according to the UEFA and FIFA statute you have to be a UN member to be a member of those organizations, what does football have to do with Judo? These are completely different organizations.
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Now I know that Scotland,Northen Irland,Wales,Giblartar e several other teams which are playing in World Cup,are members of UN.Thanks for the enlightment!
LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned.
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"LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned."
(Daniel, 11 January 2014 12:41)
Well, maybe he wonders why Kosovo, as a province of Serbia, is not allowed to have an own team while provinces of the UK are allowed?
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Well my Albanian friend you can be as ironic as you want, you can even brag about your smartness with your friends in your hometown cafe, but that doesn't change the fact that you need Serbia's consent in order to join organizations of which Serbia is already a member. What a pity!
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"The UEFA statute clearly states that the membership in this organization is allowed to national football associations only if the country is recognized by the UN as an independent state"
If it is like that, why discuss it at all? Are the football teams from Taiwan or Northern Cyprus allowed to participate in international matches?
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Although I understand people's frustrations, sport cannot be separated from politics. Politics is not some self contained concept for the amusement of the 'elite', it is life itself and affects every facet of our daily routines. We have a Minister for Sport in the UK as I imagine that Serbia does too, that must tell you something. There is clearly more at stake here than the occasional game of football.
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Wales Scotland and N. Ireland play football on an international level even though they're not independent countries but parts of the UK, because they and England have had separate football federations virtually since the beginning of football. The UK case in football is unique and it is owing to the fact that they invented football. It doesn't have much to do with politics. As for Kosovo, it is a self-proclaimed independent country and its partecipation in international organisations (at least the ones that matter) has to have the consent of Serbia. Now that doesn't mean that Kosovar Albanians are prevented from playing football on an international level since they can all play for Albania. I think that Lorik Cana is from Kosovo, am i wrong?
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I don't know if Serbia is the master of the universe but it's certainly the master of your universe since you spend days and nights on a serbian site
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Politics and sports. Politics and religion. Never a got combinations. But they will always fire back, with interests.
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As for Kosovo, it is a self-proclaimed independent country and its partecipation in international organisations (at least the ones that matter) has to have the consent of Serbia.
(thanasis, 14 January 2014 20:35)
Ha ha, I guess the new definition of "important international organization" is the following:
"An international organization is considered important if, and only if, a country can join it with Serbia's consent."
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FIFA has authorized the Kosovo national team to play friendlies. Shaqiri Behrami and other Xhaka, international Swiss far will they change jerseys?
But the Kosovo case progresses, and it should cause some questions in the minds of some players - and leaders - of Swiss football.
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Serbia was able to cause a big delay in the decision afterall they waited through the WHOLE weekend to announce that Kosovo mens teams could play friendly games with members of the FIFA.
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"LOL what an ignorant comment, you do realize that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are a part of the United Kingdom right? Owned." (Daniel, 11 January 2014 12:41)
You're missing the point here quite badly. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Gibraltar are not independent states but part of UK and non UN members. Therefore, following your own logic, this shouldn't be a barrier for Kosovo to join FIFA and UEFA as non independent state or UN member?
The problem with the Serb Federation is that they're badly trying to delay the decision and bizarrely contradicting themselves. Such a mess!
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Well my Albanian friend you can be as ironic as you want, you can even brag about your smartness with your friends in your hometown cafe, but that doesn't change the fact that you need Serbia's consent in order to join organizations of which Serbia is already a member. What a pity!
(thanasis, 15 January 2014 18:24)
That's not correct. For example, Serbia is a member of IMF, still Kosovo joined regardless of Serbia's wishes. Sorry dear for shattering your dreams that Serbia is the master of the universe :)
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The decision will be made after the opening of chapter 35 which will gauge how quickly Serbia talks with the EU will go, there might be a change of heart shortly afterward, we'll see.
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But if there are general rules that only internationally recognized states (i.e. UN member states) are allowed to send football teams to international matches, then Kosovo is out, Kosovo is not an UN member. No more else to say...
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 January 2014 18:22)
I guess you just meant "UN member states" since it has nothing to do with international recognition of states. Indeed, there is not a single state which has been recognized by the UN, so far.
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