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Tuesday, 10.12.2013.

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Unrecognized Montenegrin Church wants "property and status"

The head of the canonically unrecognized Montenegrin Orthodox Church (CPC) has said that this religious community was in a "humiliating position."

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Patriot

pre 10 godina

This Mihajlo guy needs to realise if someone looks like a Serb,feels like a Serb,prays like a Serb,smells like a Serb(i mean that in a nice way),and speaks Serbian............Then they are Serbian.Stop this petty tribalism and rejoice in the house you were born into.I'm from BiH but I go to a Serbian Orthodox Church and I suggest you carry on and do the same. You'll feel good.

marKo

pre 10 godina

Ian,

That is a most unfortunate arguement. The title of North Korea is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. By your nonsense that would make them a democarcy.

I am not going to try and change your mind, Yugoslavia was a communist dicatorship whether you like it or not and montenegran nationalism is a product of the communist's social engineering. This is historic fact, it has nothing to do with oppinion.

Religion is a basic human right, no one cares if you don't like that.

You can be as obtuse as you please and I am not going to try to convince you otherwise. Congratulations on your positions

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Peggy, 12 December 2013 10:27)

Hahahahaahah!

You're so ignorant!

Yugoslavia never claimed to be Communist. Yes, the Communist Party was in power but that doesn't mean that Yugoslavia was 'Communist'. The Constitutions never said that it was Communist either.

Next you'll be telling us that the People's Republic of China is Communist because the Chinese Communist Party is in power LOL! Even though China is a Big Fat Cat Capitalist Corporatocracy.

Also Peggy, if you actually knew anything you'd know that the therm "Communist country" is contradictory because you can't have a state, a government or a regime ect under Communism. Under Communism there is none of that, there is just shared land in a social commune where everyone is equal. There certainly isn't Governments, Currency, Armed Forces, Police, Leaders, Constitutions, Politicians ect under Communism.

And people weren't equal in SFRY... well people were equally poor and even then, some people were more equal than others ;)

Ever wondered why it was called "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" and not the "Communist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"? But don't think too hard Peggy, it'll hurt your brain if you think too much!

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Ian The communist regime interference in culture and religion is a matter of historical fact. Montenegran nationalism, Macedonian nationalism and the church schisms are all very much mired in the social engineering of that communist regime. If your arguement is that it was not true communism, thats one thing but that isn't what we are discussing.
I am sorry for you that you feel everyone who has faith must be insane. That is an attack on religious freedom and it must come from great personal pain.
(marKo, 11 December 2013 15:33)

The 'SOCIALIST Federal Republic of Yugoslavia' was Socialist not Communist (the clue is in the name). Not even the USSR claimed to be Communist, only ever working towards Communism.

It is an attack on religious freedom you say? Good! Because Religion is an attack on Freedom!

A great personal pain? Yes, the pain my fellow humans suffer all over the world from the oppression and brainwashing of religion.

There is nothing 'Communist' about the Montenegrin Orthodox Church. It was founded in October 1993 by the Liberal Alliance of Montenegro (notably not a Communist Political Alliance) after the fall of SFR Yugoslavia which you ignorantly refer to as a 'communist regime'.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

The 'SOCIALIST Federal Republic of Yugoslavia' was Socialist not Communist (the clue is in the name). Not even the USSR claimed to be Communist, only ever working towards Communism.
=============================
Why don't you engage your brain before you speak?
Now genious, do tell us who was the ruling party in that country and what did the Partisans believe in?
What was a red star representative of?
If you weren't a member of the Communist party your career would be in the toilet.

Do you want any more facts to prove that Yugoslavia was Communist?
One more, how come people had to secretly go across border to Austria to get out of the country until they relaxed that in the late 60s? Who does that but a Communist country.

Please learn about the country before you shoot your mouth off.

Mr EU

pre 10 godina

no animals are welcome in our diamond club.long life Croatia
(Mr Kotorri, 11 December 2013 16:29)

we let you gypsies in to our diamond club, didn't we? now get back to work unclogging my toilet. when you're done, go wash some hungarian horses. you're experts in being servants to more advanced civilizations anyway. don't act like an alpha when you were the sick runts of the hapsburg empire.

Mr Kotorri

pre 10 godina

Serbia needs another bombing,this time real one.croatia big VETO for Serbia is ready .no animals are welcome in our diamond club.long life Croatia

marKo

pre 10 godina

Ian The communist regime interference in culture and religion is a matter of historical fact. Montenegran nationalism, Macedonian nationalism and the church schisms are all very much mired in the social engineering of that communist regime. If your arguement is that it was not true communism, thats one thing but that isn't what we are discussing.
I am sorry for you that you feel everyone who has faith must be insane. That is an attack on religious freedom and it must come from great personal pain.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

Guys, Lenard the Loon isn't Catholic. He's some sort of do-it-yourself Christian. He kind of reminds me of those partially deranged people on street corners preaching hell, fire, and brimstone, while only wearing a dirty bathrobe. Don't associate the Catholic church with this someone who has his own demons and hallucinations. If he were Catholic, he'd have been subjected to an exorcism years ago :)

Miso

pre 10 godina

Leonard,

Why do you frequent orthodox websites and forums, move onto U sites and focus on the paedophilia issues within the Roman Catholic church.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

This communist Church is the biggest disgrace to Orthodox Christianity today. You are not going to get any property and most certainly, you will not get any status. The Serbian Orthodox Church is considered the most trusted institution in Montenegro. Nobody follows these CPC lunatics.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2013 13:47)

A 'communist Church'? LOL WTF are you on about? That is a contradictory phrase which doesn't make sense. Communism is associated with Atheism and religion is associated with right wing politics. Karl Marx famously said that "Religion is the opium of the people".

Yes, the Montenegrin Orthodox Church are lunatics, but then again, so are the followers of every religion. You Ari are also a lunatic for thinking that the Montenegrin Orthodox Church is a 'Communist Church' (not to mention the other things you think).

Tamsaniwa

pre 10 godina

(Lenard, 10 December 2013 18:33)

Imagine that. Mr Pavao Ritter would be tossing in his grave that all Serbs didnt accept Croatdom and the Greater Croatia (which started over a century before any Serb unification concept) to the Black & Baltic sea .

You sound like an infuriated boomhauer whos plan was thwarted.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Lenard is so filled with hate that he doesn't even see how much evil has engulfed him. The venom he spews only comes from one place.
Yes, others like Bam Bam and his fellow Albanians come here daily to get some hatred off their chests but nothing compares to what Lenard is dishing out on regular basis.
Lenard, go and get some help. You really need it.

Diogenies

pre 10 godina

Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew I, recognizes them as a canonical church, they do not exist.
(Roger7, 10 December 2013 15:20)

...Its Not only Constantinople its the rest of the Patriarchs as well..Nice Try..there's no reason to recognize because there is an already Canonical accepted Church there...it exists there for over 1000 years and it will be there be until the end of time.

Lenard

pre 10 godina

Serbian Orthodox "church" are nothing but wolves thieves disguised in Serb made greater Serbiana in sheep skin covering rigelamore of evil religiositys. You could be Vlach ,Macedonian ,Czech ,Croatian etc orthodox they will try to brainwash you. That you only can be a Serb belonging Serb BS church of the self called "heavenly people" the delusional Serbs LOL. Serb greater Serbia thieving religion usurper "church" making friends as usual wherever they go. Don't worry Serbs every one is aware of your greater Serbia corrupt religiosity so called church.

marKo

pre 10 godina

I pray that this Mihailo sees that the purpose of the Church is to serve Christ and not any particular nation. I hope he realizes that a schism is spiritually damaging and puts walls between the faithful. I hope he realizes that he wants to isolate people from the cannonical faith. I hope he realizes he is promoting future schism amongst his own sect. I hope he realizes he is chasing worldly kingdoms instead of the Heavanly Kingdom.

Ari Gold

pre 10 godina

This communist Church is the biggest disgrace to Orthodox Christianity today. You are not going to get any property and most certainly, you will not get any status. The Serbian Orthodox Church is considered the most trusted institution in Montenegro. Nobody follows these CPC lunatics.

Ari Gold

pre 10 godina

This communist Church is the biggest disgrace to Orthodox Christianity today. You are not going to get any property and most certainly, you will not get any status. The Serbian Orthodox Church is considered the most trusted institution in Montenegro. Nobody follows these CPC lunatics.

Diogenies

pre 10 godina

Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew I, recognizes them as a canonical church, they do not exist.
(Roger7, 10 December 2013 15:20)

...Its Not only Constantinople its the rest of the Patriarchs as well..Nice Try..there's no reason to recognize because there is an already Canonical accepted Church there...it exists there for over 1000 years and it will be there be until the end of time.

marKo

pre 10 godina

I pray that this Mihailo sees that the purpose of the Church is to serve Christ and not any particular nation. I hope he realizes that a schism is spiritually damaging and puts walls between the faithful. I hope he realizes that he wants to isolate people from the cannonical faith. I hope he realizes he is promoting future schism amongst his own sect. I hope he realizes he is chasing worldly kingdoms instead of the Heavanly Kingdom.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Lenard is so filled with hate that he doesn't even see how much evil has engulfed him. The venom he spews only comes from one place.
Yes, others like Bam Bam and his fellow Albanians come here daily to get some hatred off their chests but nothing compares to what Lenard is dishing out on regular basis.
Lenard, go and get some help. You really need it.

Mr EU

pre 10 godina

no animals are welcome in our diamond club.long life Croatia
(Mr Kotorri, 11 December 2013 16:29)

we let you gypsies in to our diamond club, didn't we? now get back to work unclogging my toilet. when you're done, go wash some hungarian horses. you're experts in being servants to more advanced civilizations anyway. don't act like an alpha when you were the sick runts of the hapsburg empire.

Miso

pre 10 godina

Leonard,

Why do you frequent orthodox websites and forums, move onto U sites and focus on the paedophilia issues within the Roman Catholic church.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

This communist Church is the biggest disgrace to Orthodox Christianity today. You are not going to get any property and most certainly, you will not get any status. The Serbian Orthodox Church is considered the most trusted institution in Montenegro. Nobody follows these CPC lunatics.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2013 13:47)

A 'communist Church'? LOL WTF are you on about? That is a contradictory phrase which doesn't make sense. Communism is associated with Atheism and religion is associated with right wing politics. Karl Marx famously said that "Religion is the opium of the people".

Yes, the Montenegrin Orthodox Church are lunatics, but then again, so are the followers of every religion. You Ari are also a lunatic for thinking that the Montenegrin Orthodox Church is a 'Communist Church' (not to mention the other things you think).

marKo

pre 10 godina

Ian The communist regime interference in culture and religion is a matter of historical fact. Montenegran nationalism, Macedonian nationalism and the church schisms are all very much mired in the social engineering of that communist regime. If your arguement is that it was not true communism, thats one thing but that isn't what we are discussing.
I am sorry for you that you feel everyone who has faith must be insane. That is an attack on religious freedom and it must come from great personal pain.

Lenard

pre 10 godina

Serbian Orthodox "church" are nothing but wolves thieves disguised in Serb made greater Serbiana in sheep skin covering rigelamore of evil religiositys. You could be Vlach ,Macedonian ,Czech ,Croatian etc orthodox they will try to brainwash you. That you only can be a Serb belonging Serb BS church of the self called "heavenly people" the delusional Serbs LOL. Serb greater Serbia thieving religion usurper "church" making friends as usual wherever they go. Don't worry Serbs every one is aware of your greater Serbia corrupt religiosity so called church.

Tamsaniwa

pre 10 godina

(Lenard, 10 December 2013 18:33)

Imagine that. Mr Pavao Ritter would be tossing in his grave that all Serbs didnt accept Croatdom and the Greater Croatia (which started over a century before any Serb unification concept) to the Black & Baltic sea .

You sound like an infuriated boomhauer whos plan was thwarted.

marKo

pre 10 godina

Ian,

That is a most unfortunate arguement. The title of North Korea is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. By your nonsense that would make them a democarcy.

I am not going to try and change your mind, Yugoslavia was a communist dicatorship whether you like it or not and montenegran nationalism is a product of the communist's social engineering. This is historic fact, it has nothing to do with oppinion.

Religion is a basic human right, no one cares if you don't like that.

You can be as obtuse as you please and I am not going to try to convince you otherwise. Congratulations on your positions

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

Guys, Lenard the Loon isn't Catholic. He's some sort of do-it-yourself Christian. He kind of reminds me of those partially deranged people on street corners preaching hell, fire, and brimstone, while only wearing a dirty bathrobe. Don't associate the Catholic church with this someone who has his own demons and hallucinations. If he were Catholic, he'd have been subjected to an exorcism years ago :)

Mr Kotorri

pre 10 godina

Serbia needs another bombing,this time real one.croatia big VETO for Serbia is ready .no animals are welcome in our diamond club.long life Croatia

Peggy

pre 10 godina

The 'SOCIALIST Federal Republic of Yugoslavia' was Socialist not Communist (the clue is in the name). Not even the USSR claimed to be Communist, only ever working towards Communism.
=============================
Why don't you engage your brain before you speak?
Now genious, do tell us who was the ruling party in that country and what did the Partisans believe in?
What was a red star representative of?
If you weren't a member of the Communist party your career would be in the toilet.

Do you want any more facts to prove that Yugoslavia was Communist?
One more, how come people had to secretly go across border to Austria to get out of the country until they relaxed that in the late 60s? Who does that but a Communist country.

Please learn about the country before you shoot your mouth off.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Ian The communist regime interference in culture and religion is a matter of historical fact. Montenegran nationalism, Macedonian nationalism and the church schisms are all very much mired in the social engineering of that communist regime. If your arguement is that it was not true communism, thats one thing but that isn't what we are discussing.
I am sorry for you that you feel everyone who has faith must be insane. That is an attack on religious freedom and it must come from great personal pain.
(marKo, 11 December 2013 15:33)

The 'SOCIALIST Federal Republic of Yugoslavia' was Socialist not Communist (the clue is in the name). Not even the USSR claimed to be Communist, only ever working towards Communism.

It is an attack on religious freedom you say? Good! Because Religion is an attack on Freedom!

A great personal pain? Yes, the pain my fellow humans suffer all over the world from the oppression and brainwashing of religion.

There is nothing 'Communist' about the Montenegrin Orthodox Church. It was founded in October 1993 by the Liberal Alliance of Montenegro (notably not a Communist Political Alliance) after the fall of SFR Yugoslavia which you ignorantly refer to as a 'communist regime'.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Peggy, 12 December 2013 10:27)

Hahahahaahah!

You're so ignorant!

Yugoslavia never claimed to be Communist. Yes, the Communist Party was in power but that doesn't mean that Yugoslavia was 'Communist'. The Constitutions never said that it was Communist either.

Next you'll be telling us that the People's Republic of China is Communist because the Chinese Communist Party is in power LOL! Even though China is a Big Fat Cat Capitalist Corporatocracy.

Also Peggy, if you actually knew anything you'd know that the therm "Communist country" is contradictory because you can't have a state, a government or a regime ect under Communism. Under Communism there is none of that, there is just shared land in a social commune where everyone is equal. There certainly isn't Governments, Currency, Armed Forces, Police, Leaders, Constitutions, Politicians ect under Communism.

And people weren't equal in SFRY... well people were equally poor and even then, some people were more equal than others ;)

Ever wondered why it was called "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" and not the "Communist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"? But don't think too hard Peggy, it'll hurt your brain if you think too much!

Patriot

pre 10 godina

This Mihajlo guy needs to realise if someone looks like a Serb,feels like a Serb,prays like a Serb,smells like a Serb(i mean that in a nice way),and speaks Serbian............Then they are Serbian.Stop this petty tribalism and rejoice in the house you were born into.I'm from BiH but I go to a Serbian Orthodox Church and I suggest you carry on and do the same. You'll feel good.

Lenard

pre 10 godina

Serbian Orthodox "church" are nothing but wolves thieves disguised in Serb made greater Serbiana in sheep skin covering rigelamore of evil religiositys. You could be Vlach ,Macedonian ,Czech ,Croatian etc orthodox they will try to brainwash you. That you only can be a Serb belonging Serb BS church of the self called "heavenly people" the delusional Serbs LOL. Serb greater Serbia thieving religion usurper "church" making friends as usual wherever they go. Don't worry Serbs every one is aware of your greater Serbia corrupt religiosity so called church.

Mr Kotorri

pre 10 godina

Serbia needs another bombing,this time real one.croatia big VETO for Serbia is ready .no animals are welcome in our diamond club.long life Croatia

Ari Gold

pre 10 godina

This communist Church is the biggest disgrace to Orthodox Christianity today. You are not going to get any property and most certainly, you will not get any status. The Serbian Orthodox Church is considered the most trusted institution in Montenegro. Nobody follows these CPC lunatics.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

This communist Church is the biggest disgrace to Orthodox Christianity today. You are not going to get any property and most certainly, you will not get any status. The Serbian Orthodox Church is considered the most trusted institution in Montenegro. Nobody follows these CPC lunatics.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2013 13:47)

A 'communist Church'? LOL WTF are you on about? That is a contradictory phrase which doesn't make sense. Communism is associated with Atheism and religion is associated with right wing politics. Karl Marx famously said that "Religion is the opium of the people".

Yes, the Montenegrin Orthodox Church are lunatics, but then again, so are the followers of every religion. You Ari are also a lunatic for thinking that the Montenegrin Orthodox Church is a 'Communist Church' (not to mention the other things you think).

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Peggy, 12 December 2013 10:27)

Hahahahaahah!

You're so ignorant!

Yugoslavia never claimed to be Communist. Yes, the Communist Party was in power but that doesn't mean that Yugoslavia was 'Communist'. The Constitutions never said that it was Communist either.

Next you'll be telling us that the People's Republic of China is Communist because the Chinese Communist Party is in power LOL! Even though China is a Big Fat Cat Capitalist Corporatocracy.

Also Peggy, if you actually knew anything you'd know that the therm "Communist country" is contradictory because you can't have a state, a government or a regime ect under Communism. Under Communism there is none of that, there is just shared land in a social commune where everyone is equal. There certainly isn't Governments, Currency, Armed Forces, Police, Leaders, Constitutions, Politicians ect under Communism.

And people weren't equal in SFRY... well people were equally poor and even then, some people were more equal than others ;)

Ever wondered why it was called "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" and not the "Communist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"? But don't think too hard Peggy, it'll hurt your brain if you think too much!

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Lenard is so filled with hate that he doesn't even see how much evil has engulfed him. The venom he spews only comes from one place.
Yes, others like Bam Bam and his fellow Albanians come here daily to get some hatred off their chests but nothing compares to what Lenard is dishing out on regular basis.
Lenard, go and get some help. You really need it.

Tamsaniwa

pre 10 godina

(Lenard, 10 December 2013 18:33)

Imagine that. Mr Pavao Ritter would be tossing in his grave that all Serbs didnt accept Croatdom and the Greater Croatia (which started over a century before any Serb unification concept) to the Black & Baltic sea .

You sound like an infuriated boomhauer whos plan was thwarted.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

Guys, Lenard the Loon isn't Catholic. He's some sort of do-it-yourself Christian. He kind of reminds me of those partially deranged people on street corners preaching hell, fire, and brimstone, while only wearing a dirty bathrobe. Don't associate the Catholic church with this someone who has his own demons and hallucinations. If he were Catholic, he'd have been subjected to an exorcism years ago :)

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Ian The communist regime interference in culture and religion is a matter of historical fact. Montenegran nationalism, Macedonian nationalism and the church schisms are all very much mired in the social engineering of that communist regime. If your arguement is that it was not true communism, thats one thing but that isn't what we are discussing.
I am sorry for you that you feel everyone who has faith must be insane. That is an attack on religious freedom and it must come from great personal pain.
(marKo, 11 December 2013 15:33)

The 'SOCIALIST Federal Republic of Yugoslavia' was Socialist not Communist (the clue is in the name). Not even the USSR claimed to be Communist, only ever working towards Communism.

It is an attack on religious freedom you say? Good! Because Religion is an attack on Freedom!

A great personal pain? Yes, the pain my fellow humans suffer all over the world from the oppression and brainwashing of religion.

There is nothing 'Communist' about the Montenegrin Orthodox Church. It was founded in October 1993 by the Liberal Alliance of Montenegro (notably not a Communist Political Alliance) after the fall of SFR Yugoslavia which you ignorantly refer to as a 'communist regime'.

marKo

pre 10 godina

I pray that this Mihailo sees that the purpose of the Church is to serve Christ and not any particular nation. I hope he realizes that a schism is spiritually damaging and puts walls between the faithful. I hope he realizes that he wants to isolate people from the cannonical faith. I hope he realizes he is promoting future schism amongst his own sect. I hope he realizes he is chasing worldly kingdoms instead of the Heavanly Kingdom.

Diogenies

pre 10 godina

Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew I, recognizes them as a canonical church, they do not exist.
(Roger7, 10 December 2013 15:20)

...Its Not only Constantinople its the rest of the Patriarchs as well..Nice Try..there's no reason to recognize because there is an already Canonical accepted Church there...it exists there for over 1000 years and it will be there be until the end of time.

Miso

pre 10 godina

Leonard,

Why do you frequent orthodox websites and forums, move onto U sites and focus on the paedophilia issues within the Roman Catholic church.

marKo

pre 10 godina

Ian The communist regime interference in culture and religion is a matter of historical fact. Montenegran nationalism, Macedonian nationalism and the church schisms are all very much mired in the social engineering of that communist regime. If your arguement is that it was not true communism, thats one thing but that isn't what we are discussing.
I am sorry for you that you feel everyone who has faith must be insane. That is an attack on religious freedom and it must come from great personal pain.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

The 'SOCIALIST Federal Republic of Yugoslavia' was Socialist not Communist (the clue is in the name). Not even the USSR claimed to be Communist, only ever working towards Communism.
=============================
Why don't you engage your brain before you speak?
Now genious, do tell us who was the ruling party in that country and what did the Partisans believe in?
What was a red star representative of?
If you weren't a member of the Communist party your career would be in the toilet.

Do you want any more facts to prove that Yugoslavia was Communist?
One more, how come people had to secretly go across border to Austria to get out of the country until they relaxed that in the late 60s? Who does that but a Communist country.

Please learn about the country before you shoot your mouth off.

marKo

pre 10 godina

Ian,

That is a most unfortunate arguement. The title of North Korea is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. By your nonsense that would make them a democarcy.

I am not going to try and change your mind, Yugoslavia was a communist dicatorship whether you like it or not and montenegran nationalism is a product of the communist's social engineering. This is historic fact, it has nothing to do with oppinion.

Religion is a basic human right, no one cares if you don't like that.

You can be as obtuse as you please and I am not going to try to convince you otherwise. Congratulations on your positions

Mr EU

pre 10 godina

no animals are welcome in our diamond club.long life Croatia
(Mr Kotorri, 11 December 2013 16:29)

we let you gypsies in to our diamond club, didn't we? now get back to work unclogging my toilet. when you're done, go wash some hungarian horses. you're experts in being servants to more advanced civilizations anyway. don't act like an alpha when you were the sick runts of the hapsburg empire.

Patriot

pre 10 godina

This Mihajlo guy needs to realise if someone looks like a Serb,feels like a Serb,prays like a Serb,smells like a Serb(i mean that in a nice way),and speaks Serbian............Then they are Serbian.Stop this petty tribalism and rejoice in the house you were born into.I'm from BiH but I go to a Serbian Orthodox Church and I suggest you carry on and do the same. You'll feel good.