Serb leader in Croatia receives death threats

Interesting that now that Croatia is in the EU club, they have become even more emboldened and believe they can act with 'impunity'. Where is the EU in all of this? Do they even care that their club member is all for an ethnically cleansed Croatia?

"The HQ for Defense of Croatian Vukovar," an organization fighting against official use of Serbian Cyrillic script in Croatia, said Friday that they have so far collected more than 650,000 signatures to hold a referendum on amending the Constitutional Law on the Rights of National Minorities.

Not bad. Now the world knows that a not-so-small percentage of the Croats are nothing but right wing extremists, sympathize with Nazi ideology, and don't care about constitutional laws and minority protection. As usual, jsut like Serbian extremists, these scumbags prefer to call themselves 'defenders' or 'patriots', though are they are the ones who damaged their state and society.

It was probably sent by Bam Bam from his 5th grade school computer lab.

Is that possible in 21th century? Croatia needs to be modern country, she is the member of EU, for God sake.

Sorry to bring you the bad news, Bam Bam, but "your" Croatia (you know, the one you've visited maybe once or twice) is part of the EU now. Part of that includes respecting rights of minorities.

First of all, Croatia's own constitution guarantees the rights of Serbs

Secondly, if Croatia's courts decide that Serbs can't have their own language (which they won't), the aggrieved parties can complain to Strasbourg. Since Croatia insists that it is a different language, they can't treat it differently than Italian on Istria

Thirdly, I guess you can't see it from where you're sitting in the USA, but this is all a very convenient diversion to distract from real problems that Croatia has plenty of.

I guess the Croats and their Albanian buddies wouldn't mind if we removed their language from co-official use in Vojvodina and Presevo then, since it would be the 'will of the majority' after all...

Thank god for democracy. The people have spoken and don't want cirilica. Why would we have it when we can't even read the dam thing. When are you Serbs going to realise that not even the E.U can protect you. The Serbs will be so disillusioned that they will have no choice but to eventually leave. I ask myself what do these people actually want in Croatia when they constantly whinge and complain. But most importantly regardless what the so called Serb lobbyists say on this site in trying to discredit our great nation, the world will always remember those responsible for Srebrenica genocide. The killing of 10, 000 innocent Bosniaks in a 24 hour period will never be forgotten

E-mails can be send by Serbs also. Maybe people here think Serbs aren't able to send e-mails.

Don't blame the Croats or Albanians behaving this way. They don't know any better. It is the political and media elite, particularly in the US and Germany, that have allowed fascism and nazism to rear it's ugly head again.

Serbs need to get the hell out of fascist Croatia. You really have to have a death wish to live in that hell if you are Serbian.

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.
(Jim, 9 December 2013 12:32)


And people wonder why Serbs have the reputation of being fascists today.

"E-mails can be send by Serbs also. Maybe people here think Serbs aren't able to send e-mails."

Avni

Yes Einstein and I guess serbs collected the 650.000 signatures asking for the abolishment of minority rights. Funny how you don't ask for evidence when serbs are acused of threathening albanians and croats?

Danilo

Serbs are not the ones denying minority rights today, our neighbours are. If our neighbours refuse us the rights they enjoy in Serbia why should we grant you any in our land?

Mirel from Talialbania

Serbs never asked for these rights instead they were granted these rights by the croatian constitution. By the way you don't seem to complain about the rights of albanians in Presevo to have their universities, flags and everything else that reminds them of their herritage. I guess serbs should live like little mice where they are a minority while you should have majority right even though you are a minority. The only one that could deal with you was Milosevic.

I am actually very surprised that a Pupovac death threat did not come sooner..very strange for a man that fought against a state that now secures his living - and still bitches about.

I would say that Croatians are actually very tolerant.

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.
Jim

You forgot the Albanians. Shouldn't they too be robbed and thrown out?

Jim why do you mention Hungarians or ethnic Hungarians? What they formed an alliance or pact with the Croats in the duration of Yugoslavia's civil war against Serbs? Or does it have to do with Hungary's temporary but perhaps forced alliance with the Nazis in the duration of 2nd world war where they might have oppressed the Serbs,certainly,the Nazis had considered themselves racially superior to Serbs for being Slavic where they including Croatia's Ustasha forces oppressed Serbs during the 2nd world war.Sorry for the long comment but I'm attempting to figure out or theorize how or why Hungarians are involved.

Isn't serbian and croatian the same language?
If its the same language why is the big deal for serbs to use Cirylic?
Move on serbs and stop wheaning about nothing.

Look what u r doing in Kosovo case.U r blocking them to play even soccer.

I really pray for the peoples who are dealing with Serbs and Russians .
The only reason u accept is Storm reason .
Sorry but this is my impesion after I read news and see the comments in this site.

Why do you comment something you dont have a clue about? Its far away from the same language, we have a lot of letters in cyrillic that they dont have and there is a big big difference even in the spoken language. Get your facts straight its not about serbs whining its about croats not giving their minorities the rights that they have. How come albanians expect Serbia to give albanians living in Serbia their rights as a minority but encourage croats to disrecpect their minorities?

Hey Bam bam, Croatia will never even think of entering into a conflict with RS. The only battle your brave brethren ever won was against Serb civilians fleeing Krajina. The international community puts the number at 1,800 civilians killed, most of them elderly with many women and children among them. And for this your brave country celebrates a national holiday. And let us not forget that this major military offensive against civilians was aided by the US, Germany & other NATO countries. You should be very proud. But then again with a history of serving your German and Austro Hungarian masters as stable boys, I guess you should celebrate any victory, no matter how shameful. But trust me, without the help of your big brothers, the US & Germany, Croatia doesn't stand a chance against RS.

(Mirel from Albania, 9 December 2013 16:55)

Actually, it's the Croatians that insist, up and down, that Croatian is a separate language and go to some lengths to buttress this notion, including subtitles on films and TV from Serbia.

Their own insistence that on the language being separate is what's causing this and forcing this, according to their own constitution.

Bam Bam - We were discussing Croatia penetrating RS and now you change subjects to 1942 stamps in Serbia. Please try to stay focused. I know your small mind is challenged so I will try and type very slowly to help you stay on point.

Your attempt to portray Serbs during WWII as fascists is comical. Straight out of the Ustasha handbook of propaganda. Pay attention: The Serbian government signed a neutrality pact with Germany and the Serbian people staged a coup and chose to fight the Nazis against insurmountable odds. The Croats welcomed Hitler's Nazis into Zagreb with a tick tape parade. Serbs formed the first resistance movement to fight the Nazis, the Chetniks. The Croats formed the Ustasha who were Nazi puppets. The Nazis had a policy of killing 100 Serbs for every German killed and 50 Serbs killed for every German wounded. No such policy existed for Croats. Belgrade was bombed unmercilessly. How many German bombs fell on Zagreb? Answer: Zero. The Serbs saved over 500 downed US airmen. How many did the Ustasha save? Answer: Zero.

After Germany occupied Belgrade, a quisling government was set up by the Nazis with Nedic being the figuehead leader. Conversely, the Croats embraced the Nazis from day one and themselves implemented the murderous Ustasha gov't. with its leader Ante Pavelic who was a WWII war criminal. Big, big difference. let me know if you want to continue the discussion Bam Bam, or perhaps you want to change the subject again.

We will block Serbian entry to eu with a big VETO.animals are not welcome at our diamond club.long life Croatia

Danilo/Doot said, "And people wonder why Serbs have the reputation of being fascists today."

From one person's comment the angry Canadian collectively tags and promotes all Serbs as racists.

Thirdly, I guess you can't see it from where you're sitting in the USA, but this is all a very convenient diversion to distract from real problems that Croatia has plenty of.
(Danilo, 9 December 2013 15:06)

Yep yep. Another example of convulsing knee-jerk patriotism. This of course follows the decision by Zagreb to ignore any referendum on banning Cyrillic, not to mention even HDZero publicly distancing itself from the monster it helped create. Typical actions by peripheral "patriots": ratchet up the rhetoric and vitriol when no one pays attention to you.

Wouldn't even be surprised if the death threat came from Chicago or Sydney.

Alles fur Domovina, aber Domovina fur niemand!

After all the crimes committed by Serbs in Croatia the insanity continues with demands for evil alphabet to be legal by war criminal Serbs?

Where is their SHAME?

Albanians and all other reasonable people support Croatia natural right to self determination,liberty,peace and decontanmination process.

Serbs should be happy Belgrade will accept the rejected settlers.

"Jim why do you mention Hungarians or ethnic Hungarians? What they formed an alliance or pact with the Croats in the duration of Yugoslavia's civil war against Serbs? Or does it have to do with Hungary's temporary but perhaps forced alliance with the Nazis in the duration of 2nd world war where they might have oppressed the Serbs,certainly,the Nazis had considered themselves racially superior to Serbs for being Slavic where they including Croatia's Ustasha forces oppressed Serbs during the 2nd world war.Sorry for the long comment but I'm attempting to figure out or theorize how or why Hungarians are involved."

Good thing that Serbs continue to bring up WW2 and use that as justification for war, destruction, genocide and ethnic cleansing of the 1990s. Good thing as Serbia's economy, political system and mentality is somewhere of where it was in the 1940s.

I would say that Croatians are actually very tolerant.
(Elvis Klokanovic, 9 December 2013 21:52)
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I am sure you would say that but it doesn't mean it's true.

I would say that Croatians are actually very tolerant.
(Elvis Klokanovic, 9 December 2013 21:52)

I wouldn't.

animals are not welcome at our diamond club.long life Croatia
(Mr Kotorri, 9 December 2013 18:03)

They let you people in, so it can't get any worse.

Haha "diamond club". That's rich for Germany's cheap labor. I could throw a euro down the street and watch all the poor Croats running after it.

Jeff,

Here is Danilo's (aka Doot) blog. This is what he thinks of Serbia and Serbs.
http://serbia-sucks.blogspot.com/2013/12/comments-are-more-frequent.html#comment-form
Danilo/Doot said, "However, let's get one thing straight: I didn't hate Serbia before I came here. I don't hate Serbia because of something I heard on BBC or CNN. I hate Serbia because I've lived here for 5 years and have to see ever day what a broken, screwed-up place this is, inhabited by broken screwed-up people."

Danilo/Doot is actually a broken and screwed-up Canadian who hates Serbs.

(Bam Bam, 10 December 2013 12:30)

Well when the Serbian forces left and there was only old people in Kajina and it was easy to kill them it’s in your nature. Look at your pathetic attempt at beating the Bosniaks during the 1990s – you couldn’t even pull that one off.
Why are your Croats leaving the Federation and trying to move into RS???? That is why all Croats are like that material that you scrub off your boots.
I’ll send a note to Milorad Dodik that Croatian halfwits have you surround and to make sure you send them a note 12 months in advance that your breaking away so the Zagreb can save enough fuel to attack you and of course please do not do it during the months of December to February as all Croatian bases are closed to save money.
The winds of change have arrived – the US had to negotiate with Iran and now Obama shaking hands with Fidel Castor’s brother at Mandela’s funeral.
Croatia has to find billions of Euros to pay Serbs and there is no getting out of that one mate.

Isn't serbian and croatian the same language?
If its the same language why is the big deal for serbs to use Cirylic?
Move on serbs and stop wheaning about nothing.

Look what u r doing in Kosovo case.U r blocking them to play even soccer.

I really pray for the peoples who are dealing with Serbs and Russians .
The only reason u accept is Storm reason .
Sorry but this is my impesion after I read news and see the comments in this site.

Danilo/Doot said, "However, let's get one thing straight: I didn't hate Serbia before I came here. I don't hate Serbia because of something I heard on BBC or CNN. I hate Serbia because I've lived here for 5 years and have to see ever day what a broken, screwed-up place this is, inhabited by broken screwed-up people."
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He says he hates Serbia but doesn't say why he is there, why he doesn't leave.
There is a very quick solution to his problem, one way ticked out.

(Bam Bam, 9 December 2013 13:57)

As I said before most EU members have now formed the opinion that Serbs had to fight against Croats in the 1990s as Croats are nothing but rabid Nazis.
The EU is pinning its hope on Zoran Milanovic to turns things around but there is no hope of that happening now or in the future.
Even the US CIA operatives have written on that subject and all say the same thing – it’s a hoax. But then Croats burning alive Bosnaiks in Central Bosnia is a fact and you guys could not win against the Muslims ever when they were at their weakest – pathetic Croatians windbags had to have Serbs save about 20 000 by allowing by allowing them to cross over Serb territory otherwise the Muslims would have killed them all.
Croats are legendary in killing old or unarmed people but run for their lives when against someone who can fight. That is why Serbs were entrusted by the Austians to guard their borders and not Croats.

Some of the language used by these Ustasa is like the old days. Time for some nazi ass-kicking, again.

Danilo

Serbs are not the ones denying minority rights today, our neighbours are. If our neighbours refuse us the rights they enjoy in Serbia why should we grant you any in our land?
(MikeC, 9 December 2013 17:54)


Your post makes no sense to me. Did you mean to address someone else maybe? Who's we, who's you? I'm a foreigner in Serbia who happens to have Serbian roots.

I Quote -

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.
Jim

You forgot the Albanians. Shouldn't they too be robbed and thrown out?
(cry me a river, 9 December 2013 14:51)

Comment - They will be !.

Arn.Sweden.

Serbs are not the ones denying minority rights today, our neighbours are. If our neighbours refuse us the rights they enjoy in Serbia why should we grant you any in our land?
(MikeC, 9 December 2013 17:54)

Because we're told that Serbia is superior! But if you want Serbia to become like, say, Kosovo which Serbs consider a black hole, then I have no further comment...

Danilo- it is clear that the truth is contemptible to you.

@sj.......What ever happend to all mighty Sao Krajina. I will tell you to refresh your memory. It was crushed in 4 days. Now you tell me who were the ones who were running. I have never seen a group of people so scared. The Serbs got hammered everywhere they went. Why doesn't Dodik breakaway from BiH. Just remember RS is 99% encircled and can be cut off at anytime. We need to start planting willow trees in Bosnia a just like we did in 41. Ethnic minorities are welcome in Croatia Serbs are not.

From one person's comment the angry Canadian collectively tags and promotes all Serbs as racists.
(Roger7, 9 December 2013 15:52)

no, "Roger7", I wasn't. I was (correctly) identifying Jeff's sentiments as fascistic.

I don't think all Serbs are racists, but we certainly see a lot of unabashed ethnocentrism from Serb-identified commentators on here.

Why get your panties in a twist over my remarks? Aren't Jeff's more contemptible?

I had a Montenegrin friend in university along with a Macedonian from Prespa region.
We used to watch ilegally tv Belgrade/Titograde before 1990 and tv Scopje along with RAI.

My Montenegrin body had no problem translating from Serbian,croatioan or montenegrin language.
My other Macedonian body used to translate Skopje tv.

While RAi was no problem since practically all Albanians know Italian.

Meanwhile when there was something from tv Lubjana in Slovenian both my bodies the Montenegrin and Macedonian used to give up coz they used to tell us is a different language.

At the time by 1988 a book was published in Tirana called" The serbo-Croatian language"

I just want to share my experience with u and you can comment about that.

Sorry, Jeff. I meant to say Jim.

And yes, the fact that some people, from the comfort of their chairs in a western country, are calling for ethnic cleansing in Europe IS contemptible to me.

Danilo- no problem. So I suppose Dim Dim's post absolutely horrifies you.

Mario - I'm not sure what you're trying to say in your latest message, but that's not surprising. You're posts are very difficult to follow. They are filled with emotional outbursts with no factual basis to stand on. Try sticking to the facts - oh, I forgot, the facts are not in Croatia's favor.

I know you don't like it when Serbs bring up WWII. Then maybe your soccer players shouldn't shout Ustasha slogans and give the Nazi salute after games. And maybe your gov't. shouldn't have invited WWII war criminals back to Croatia (Dink Sakic) in 1992. Maybe the father of Croatian independence shouldn't have renamed streets in Zagreb after WWII war criminals. And maybe, just maybe Croatia should admit and apologize for her role in trying to exterminate Serbs during WWII instead of denying and minimizing their actions. Let's start there Mario.

And what bottom-spanking are you referring to? The one where Croats killed 1,800 unarmed civilians, mostly elderly along with women & children as they left Krajina during Operation Storm? Is thet what you're referring to Mario? Quite an accopmplishment with the help of the US, Germany & NATO. Face it, Croatia never won a battle on its own. Your countrymen are more suited to serving the nobility as you've done for centuries under the A-H empire. Your mother even gave you an Italian name because she must have been trying to change your Croat identity. Who can blame her. LOL

Jeff,

ya, Bam Bam is just as contemptible, of course.

After reading him for a while, it's kind of hard to take him seriously, though. He sounds like a frustrated teenager.

Roger7

Hi Roger! So, what are you saying? That some who objects to someone saying "all Croats and Hungarians should be expelled from Serbia" hates Serbs? That's kind of strange, but ok, I guess you're entitled to be wrong :)

What sort of morals do you have? Jesus. Someone advocating for the forced deportation of entire groups is ok, but someone who objects to that "hates Serbs". Not only do you have a serious problem with your morals, but you have a strange understanding of what it means to support your "tribe"

@njegos.

Why don't you look up Zbor, the "Grand Anti-Masonic Exhibit" held in Belgrade and the postage stamps that were issued by Serbia in January 1942...... and all you peasants on this site call us Croats fascists, look at your own history before judging otehrs, which I would be very ashamed of, if I were a Serb !

Oh my dear God Serbs victims again? 4,5 million Croats gave your 13 million Serbs bottom spanking. live with it why cry to the whole world now. Njegos, come on Njegos let's beat that dead horse WWII. Come on Njegos tell me how you Chetniks expelled Germans, Turks, Christians, Vatican ... Njegos what story do you have for us now and God knows how you gonna finish it! Your whole history reads as the April Fools Day.. And now what you want revenge for WWII? you want to kill Croats, Turks, Muslims, Christian?… wretched man what do you want permission, license to kill 300,000 or better still 1 million Croats? you already attacked us when we were weakest, what you waiting for Russians to help you kill Croats, Turks, Christian, Muslims and who knows whom…miserable backward people and even more miserable government! fight for food on the table, better life for Serbs and safety for your children! what you Serbs did not drunk enough blood?

Thank god for democracy. The people have spoken and don't want cirilica. Why would we have it when we can't even read the dam thing. When are you Serbs going to realise that not even the E.U can protect you. The Serbs will be so disillusioned that they will have no choice but to eventually leave. I ask myself what do these people actually want in Croatia when they constantly whinge and complain. But most importantly regardless what the so called Serb lobbyists say on this site in trying to discredit our great nation, the world will always remember those responsible for Srebrenica genocide. The killing of 10, 000 innocent Bosniaks in a 24 hour period will never be forgotten

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.
(Jim, 9 December 2013 12:32)


And people wonder why Serbs have the reputation of being fascists today.

Isn't serbian and croatian the same language?
If its the same language why is the big deal for serbs to use Cirylic?
Move on serbs and stop wheaning about nothing.

Look what u r doing in Kosovo case.U r blocking them to play even soccer.

I really pray for the peoples who are dealing with Serbs and Russians .
The only reason u accept is Storm reason .
Sorry but this is my impesion after I read news and see the comments in this site.

I am actually very surprised that a Pupovac death threat did not come sooner..very strange for a man that fought against a state that now secures his living - and still bitches about.

I would say that Croatians are actually very tolerant.

E-mails can be send by Serbs also. Maybe people here think Serbs aren't able to send e-mails.

After all the crimes committed by Serbs in Croatia the insanity continues with demands for evil alphabet to be legal by war criminal Serbs?

Where is their SHAME?

Albanians and all other reasonable people support Croatia natural right to self determination,liberty,peace and decontanmination process.

Serbs should be happy Belgrade will accept the rejected settlers.

Serbs need to get the hell out of fascist Croatia. You really have to have a death wish to live in that hell if you are Serbian.

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.

We will block Serbian entry to eu with a big VETO.animals are not welcome at our diamond club.long life Croatia

From one person's comment the angry Canadian collectively tags and promotes all Serbs as racists.
(Roger7, 9 December 2013 15:52)

no, "Roger7", I wasn't. I was (correctly) identifying Jeff's sentiments as fascistic.

I don't think all Serbs are racists, but we certainly see a lot of unabashed ethnocentrism from Serb-identified commentators on here.

Why get your panties in a twist over my remarks? Aren't Jeff's more contemptible?

@sj.......What ever happend to all mighty Sao Krajina. I will tell you to refresh your memory. It was crushed in 4 days. Now you tell me who were the ones who were running. I have never seen a group of people so scared. The Serbs got hammered everywhere they went. Why doesn't Dodik breakaway from BiH. Just remember RS is 99% encircled and can be cut off at anytime. We need to start planting willow trees in Bosnia a just like we did in 41. Ethnic minorities are welcome in Croatia Serbs are not.

"The HQ for Defense of Croatian Vukovar," an organization fighting against official use of Serbian Cyrillic script in Croatia, said Friday that they have so far collected more than 650,000 signatures to hold a referendum on amending the Constitutional Law on the Rights of National Minorities.

Not bad. Now the world knows that a not-so-small percentage of the Croats are nothing but right wing extremists, sympathize with Nazi ideology, and don't care about constitutional laws and minority protection. As usual, jsut like Serbian extremists, these scumbags prefer to call themselves 'defenders' or 'patriots', though are they are the ones who damaged their state and society.

Interesting that now that Croatia is in the EU club, they have become even more emboldened and believe they can act with 'impunity'. Where is the EU in all of this? Do they even care that their club member is all for an ethnically cleansed Croatia?

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.
Jim

You forgot the Albanians. Shouldn't they too be robbed and thrown out?

Sorry to bring you the bad news, Bam Bam, but "your" Croatia (you know, the one you've visited maybe once or twice) is part of the EU now. Part of that includes respecting rights of minorities.

First of all, Croatia's own constitution guarantees the rights of Serbs

Secondly, if Croatia's courts decide that Serbs can't have their own language (which they won't), the aggrieved parties can complain to Strasbourg. Since Croatia insists that it is a different language, they can't treat it differently than Italian on Istria

Thirdly, I guess you can't see it from where you're sitting in the USA, but this is all a very convenient diversion to distract from real problems that Croatia has plenty of.

Danilo/Doot said, "And people wonder why Serbs have the reputation of being fascists today."

From one person's comment the angry Canadian collectively tags and promotes all Serbs as racists.

Don't blame the Croats or Albanians behaving this way. They don't know any better. It is the political and media elite, particularly in the US and Germany, that have allowed fascism and nazism to rear it's ugly head again.

Jim why do you mention Hungarians or ethnic Hungarians? What they formed an alliance or pact with the Croats in the duration of Yugoslavia's civil war against Serbs? Or does it have to do with Hungary's temporary but perhaps forced alliance with the Nazis in the duration of 2nd world war where they might have oppressed the Serbs,certainly,the Nazis had considered themselves racially superior to Serbs for being Slavic where they including Croatia's Ustasha forces oppressed Serbs during the 2nd world war.Sorry for the long comment but I'm attempting to figure out or theorize how or why Hungarians are involved.

Is that possible in 21th century? Croatia needs to be modern country, she is the member of EU, for God sake.

"E-mails can be send by Serbs also. Maybe people here think Serbs aren't able to send e-mails."

Avni

Yes Einstein and I guess serbs collected the 650.000 signatures asking for the abolishment of minority rights. Funny how you don't ask for evidence when serbs are acused of threathening albanians and croats?

Danilo

Serbs are not the ones denying minority rights today, our neighbours are. If our neighbours refuse us the rights they enjoy in Serbia why should we grant you any in our land?

Isn't serbian and croatian the same language?
If its the same language why is the big deal for serbs to use Cirylic?
Move on serbs and stop wheaning about nothing.

Look what u r doing in Kosovo case.U r blocking them to play even soccer.

I really pray for the peoples who are dealing with Serbs and Russians .
The only reason u accept is Storm reason .
Sorry but this is my impesion after I read news and see the comments in this site.

Why do you comment something you dont have a clue about? Its far away from the same language, we have a lot of letters in cyrillic that they dont have and there is a big big difference even in the spoken language. Get your facts straight its not about serbs whining its about croats not giving their minorities the rights that they have. How come albanians expect Serbia to give albanians living in Serbia their rights as a minority but encourage croats to disrecpect their minorities?

Mirel from Talialbania

Serbs never asked for these rights instead they were granted these rights by the croatian constitution. By the way you don't seem to complain about the rights of albanians in Presevo to have their universities, flags and everything else that reminds them of their herritage. I guess serbs should live like little mice where they are a minority while you should have majority right even though you are a minority. The only one that could deal with you was Milosevic.

I guess the Croats and their Albanian buddies wouldn't mind if we removed their language from co-official use in Vojvodina and Presevo then, since it would be the 'will of the majority' after all...

It was probably sent by Bam Bam from his 5th grade school computer lab.

@njegos.

Why don't you look up Zbor, the "Grand Anti-Masonic Exhibit" held in Belgrade and the postage stamps that were issued by Serbia in January 1942...... and all you peasants on this site call us Croats fascists, look at your own history before judging otehrs, which I would be very ashamed of, if I were a Serb !

Thirdly, I guess you can't see it from where you're sitting in the USA, but this is all a very convenient diversion to distract from real problems that Croatia has plenty of.
(Danilo, 9 December 2013 15:06)

Yep yep. Another example of convulsing knee-jerk patriotism. This of course follows the decision by Zagreb to ignore any referendum on banning Cyrillic, not to mention even HDZero publicly distancing itself from the monster it helped create. Typical actions by peripheral "patriots": ratchet up the rhetoric and vitriol when no one pays attention to you.

Wouldn't even be surprised if the death threat came from Chicago or Sydney.

Alles fur Domovina, aber Domovina fur niemand!

animals are not welcome at our diamond club.long life Croatia
(Mr Kotorri, 9 December 2013 18:03)

They let you people in, so it can't get any worse.

Haha "diamond club". That's rich for Germany's cheap labor. I could throw a euro down the street and watch all the poor Croats running after it.

I Quote -

All Croats and Hungarians should be thrown out of Serbia and their property given to these Serbs as some small type of compensation.
Jim

You forgot the Albanians. Shouldn't they too be robbed and thrown out?
(cry me a river, 9 December 2013 14:51)

Comment - They will be !.

Arn.Sweden.

(Mirel from Albania, 9 December 2013 16:55)

Actually, it's the Croatians that insist, up and down, that Croatian is a separate language and go to some lengths to buttress this notion, including subtitles on films and TV from Serbia.

Their own insistence that on the language being separate is what's causing this and forcing this, according to their own constitution.

I would say that Croatians are actually very tolerant.
(Elvis Klokanovic, 9 December 2013 21:52)
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I am sure you would say that but it doesn't mean it's true.

Some of the language used by these Ustasa is like the old days. Time for some nazi ass-kicking, again.

Jeff,

Here is Danilo's (aka Doot) blog. This is what he thinks of Serbia and Serbs.
http://serbia-sucks.blogspot.com/2013/12/comments-are-more-frequent.html#comment-form
Danilo/Doot said, "However, let's get one thing straight: I didn't hate Serbia before I came here. I don't hate Serbia because of something I heard on BBC or CNN. I hate Serbia because I've lived here for 5 years and have to see ever day what a broken, screwed-up place this is, inhabited by broken screwed-up people."

Danilo/Doot is actually a broken and screwed-up Canadian who hates Serbs.

I had a Montenegrin friend in university along with a Macedonian from Prespa region.
We used to watch ilegally tv Belgrade/Titograde before 1990 and tv Scopje along with RAI.

My Montenegrin body had no problem translating from Serbian,croatioan or montenegrin language.
My other Macedonian body used to translate Skopje tv.

While RAi was no problem since practically all Albanians know Italian.

Meanwhile when there was something from tv Lubjana in Slovenian both my bodies the Montenegrin and Macedonian used to give up coz they used to tell us is a different language.

At the time by 1988 a book was published in Tirana called" The serbo-Croatian language"

I just want to share my experience with u and you can comment about that.

(Bam Bam, 9 December 2013 13:57)

As I said before most EU members have now formed the opinion that Serbs had to fight against Croats in the 1990s as Croats are nothing but rabid Nazis.
The EU is pinning its hope on Zoran Milanovic to turns things around but there is no hope of that happening now or in the future.
Even the US CIA operatives have written on that subject and all say the same thing – it’s a hoax. But then Croats burning alive Bosnaiks in Central Bosnia is a fact and you guys could not win against the Muslims ever when they were at their weakest – pathetic Croatians windbags had to have Serbs save about 20 000 by allowing by allowing them to cross over Serb territory otherwise the Muslims would have killed them all.
Croats are legendary in killing old or unarmed people but run for their lives when against someone who can fight. That is why Serbs were entrusted by the Austians to guard their borders and not Croats.

Danilo

Serbs are not the ones denying minority rights today, our neighbours are. If our neighbours refuse us the rights they enjoy in Serbia why should we grant you any in our land?
(MikeC, 9 December 2013 17:54)


Your post makes no sense to me. Did you mean to address someone else maybe? Who's we, who's you? I'm a foreigner in Serbia who happens to have Serbian roots.

I would say that Croatians are actually very tolerant.
(Elvis Klokanovic, 9 December 2013 21:52)

I wouldn't.

Serbs are not the ones denying minority rights today, our neighbours are. If our neighbours refuse us the rights they enjoy in Serbia why should we grant you any in our land?
(MikeC, 9 December 2013 17:54)

Because we're told that Serbia is superior! But if you want Serbia to become like, say, Kosovo which Serbs consider a black hole, then I have no further comment...

(Bam Bam, 10 December 2013 12:30)

Well when the Serbian forces left and there was only old people in Kajina and it was easy to kill them it’s in your nature. Look at your pathetic attempt at beating the Bosniaks during the 1990s – you couldn’t even pull that one off.
Why are your Croats leaving the Federation and trying to move into RS???? That is why all Croats are like that material that you scrub off your boots.
I’ll send a note to Milorad Dodik that Croatian halfwits have you surround and to make sure you send them a note 12 months in advance that your breaking away so the Zagreb can save enough fuel to attack you and of course please do not do it during the months of December to February as all Croatian bases are closed to save money.
The winds of change have arrived – the US had to negotiate with Iran and now Obama shaking hands with Fidel Castor’s brother at Mandela’s funeral.
Croatia has to find billions of Euros to pay Serbs and there is no getting out of that one mate.

Hey Bam bam, Croatia will never even think of entering into a conflict with RS. The only battle your brave brethren ever won was against Serb civilians fleeing Krajina. The international community puts the number at 1,800 civilians killed, most of them elderly with many women and children among them. And for this your brave country celebrates a national holiday. And let us not forget that this major military offensive against civilians was aided by the US, Germany & other NATO countries. You should be very proud. But then again with a history of serving your German and Austro Hungarian masters as stable boys, I guess you should celebrate any victory, no matter how shameful. But trust me, without the help of your big brothers, the US & Germany, Croatia doesn't stand a chance against RS.

"Jim why do you mention Hungarians or ethnic Hungarians? What they formed an alliance or pact with the Croats in the duration of Yugoslavia's civil war against Serbs? Or does it have to do with Hungary's temporary but perhaps forced alliance with the Nazis in the duration of 2nd world war where they might have oppressed the Serbs,certainly,the Nazis had considered themselves racially superior to Serbs for being Slavic where they including Croatia's Ustasha forces oppressed Serbs during the 2nd world war.Sorry for the long comment but I'm attempting to figure out or theorize how or why Hungarians are involved."

Good thing that Serbs continue to bring up WW2 and use that as justification for war, destruction, genocide and ethnic cleansing of the 1990s. Good thing as Serbia's economy, political system and mentality is somewhere of where it was in the 1940s.

Sorry, Jeff. I meant to say Jim.

And yes, the fact that some people, from the comfort of their chairs in a western country, are calling for ethnic cleansing in Europe IS contemptible to me.

Danilo- no problem. So I suppose Dim Dim's post absolutely horrifies you.

Danilo/Doot said, "However, let's get one thing straight: I didn't hate Serbia before I came here. I don't hate Serbia because of something I heard on BBC or CNN. I hate Serbia because I've lived here for 5 years and have to see ever day what a broken, screwed-up place this is, inhabited by broken screwed-up people."
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He says he hates Serbia but doesn't say why he is there, why he doesn't leave.
There is a very quick solution to his problem, one way ticked out.

Bam Bam - We were discussing Croatia penetrating RS and now you change subjects to 1942 stamps in Serbia. Please try to stay focused. I know your small mind is challenged so I will try and type very slowly to help you stay on point.

Your attempt to portray Serbs during WWII as fascists is comical. Straight out of the Ustasha handbook of propaganda. Pay attention: The Serbian government signed a neutrality pact with Germany and the Serbian people staged a coup and chose to fight the Nazis against insurmountable odds. The Croats welcomed Hitler's Nazis into Zagreb with a tick tape parade. Serbs formed the first resistance movement to fight the Nazis, the Chetniks. The Croats formed the Ustasha who were Nazi puppets. The Nazis had a policy of killing 100 Serbs for every German killed and 50 Serbs killed for every German wounded. No such policy existed for Croats. Belgrade was bombed unmercilessly. How many German bombs fell on Zagreb? Answer: Zero. The Serbs saved over 500 downed US airmen. How many did the Ustasha save? Answer: Zero.

After Germany occupied Belgrade, a quisling government was set up by the Nazis with Nedic being the figuehead leader. Conversely, the Croats embraced the Nazis from day one and themselves implemented the murderous Ustasha gov't. with its leader Ante Pavelic who was a WWII war criminal. Big, big difference. let me know if you want to continue the discussion Bam Bam, or perhaps you want to change the subject again.

Jeff,

ya, Bam Bam is just as contemptible, of course.

After reading him for a while, it's kind of hard to take him seriously, though. He sounds like a frustrated teenager.

Roger7

Hi Roger! So, what are you saying? That some who objects to someone saying "all Croats and Hungarians should be expelled from Serbia" hates Serbs? That's kind of strange, but ok, I guess you're entitled to be wrong :)

What sort of morals do you have? Jesus. Someone advocating for the forced deportation of entire groups is ok, but someone who objects to that "hates Serbs". Not only do you have a serious problem with your morals, but you have a strange understanding of what it means to support your "tribe"

Oh my dear God Serbs victims again? 4,5 million Croats gave your 13 million Serbs bottom spanking. live with it why cry to the whole world now. Njegos, come on Njegos let's beat that dead horse WWII. Come on Njegos tell me how you Chetniks expelled Germans, Turks, Christians, Vatican ... Njegos what story do you have for us now and God knows how you gonna finish it! Your whole history reads as the April Fools Day.. And now what you want revenge for WWII? you want to kill Croats, Turks, Muslims, Christian?… wretched man what do you want permission, license to kill 300,000 or better still 1 million Croats? you already attacked us when we were weakest, what you waiting for Russians to help you kill Croats, Turks, Christian, Muslims and who knows whom…miserable backward people and even more miserable government! fight for food on the table, better life for Serbs and safety for your children! what you Serbs did not drunk enough blood?

Danilo- it is clear that the truth is contemptible to you.

Mario - I'm not sure what you're trying to say in your latest message, but that's not surprising. You're posts are very difficult to follow. They are filled with emotional outbursts with no factual basis to stand on. Try sticking to the facts - oh, I forgot, the facts are not in Croatia's favor.

I know you don't like it when Serbs bring up WWII. Then maybe your soccer players shouldn't shout Ustasha slogans and give the Nazi salute after games. And maybe your gov't. shouldn't have invited WWII war criminals back to Croatia (Dink Sakic) in 1992. Maybe the father of Croatian independence shouldn't have renamed streets in Zagreb after WWII war criminals. And maybe, just maybe Croatia should admit and apologize for her role in trying to exterminate Serbs during WWII instead of denying and minimizing their actions. Let's start there Mario.

And what bottom-spanking are you referring to? The one where Croats killed 1,800 unarmed civilians, mostly elderly along with women & children as they left Krajina during Operation Storm? Is thet what you're referring to Mario? Quite an accopmplishment with the help of the US, Germany & NATO. Face it, Croatia never won a battle on its own. Your countrymen are more suited to serving the nobility as you've done for centuries under the A-H empire. Your mother even gave you an Italian name because she must have been trying to change your Croat identity. Who can blame her. LOL