FIFA "investigates" Croat footballer's fascist salute

This moron should have stopped at "that's your problem" instead of trying to give some half-assed excuse of a Nazi salute and NDH chant being some unrequited love of a Homeland he doesn't live in. Typical Croatian "patriotism" where everyone but them sees it as a display of racism, intolerance, and an unhealthy love for the NDH that Tudjman worked so hard to rehabilitate.

I guess I can shout "Sieg Heil" but explain how I just love the feeling of winning.

Za dom --- I'm so stupid I have no idea what I'm doing!

Croatia once again keeps it classy.

He also said that "people need to learn some history", which is incredibly ironic and really applies to him. Living in Australia he seems completely ignorant to the blood spilled in association with that phrase. Idiot.

Ban 'em, to be replaced by Serbia.

Joe Šimunić raises his arm proudly and salutes Croatia.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/croatian-simunic-nazi-chant-world-cup/

Like his brothers Bam Bam and Lenard ... another fine Croatian representative.

Perhaps now the world knows why there was a war in the balkans.

Daniel...
The only reason this pathetic excuse for a human is patriotic to australia is because tax payers money help fund his scholarship at the australian institute of sport and if shit were to hit the fan over there, he would coming running back to australia.
Ya real patriotic to australia needing 3 yellow cards before being sent off against australia in the WC2006 game in stuttgart.
Pathetic daniel absolutely pathetic.
Oh and one more thing Daniel. i have a cro background and i cant stand this idiot and all the other idiots in australia that go to these croatian clubs with pictures of their fascist hero ante pavelic hanging proud.
so please cut the crap..

signed
pissed off australian tax payer

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years. Also, i personnely know Joe, and he left Australia at the age of 18, so he has spent the majority of his life in Croatia and not in Australia. But i can tell you this, he is patriotic and loyal to both nations.
What he said was not wrong, he voiced his democratic opinion in a democratic country .
(Daniel Ivkovic, 21 November 2013 21:09)

I don't care what "Za dom spremni" meant BEFORE the NDH. The fact that it was associated with the NDH negates ANY and ALL use of it. That he used the Nazi salute also means he knew exactly what he was doing. The swastika was used before Hitler too. You don't see anyone with even a fraction of intelligence try to rehabilitate that.

If you Croat wannabes have nothing other than fascist slogans to show your patriotism, then you indeed are a culturally impoverished society. I don't give a damn what you or other expats try to say. No one in their right mind says "Sieg Heil". No one in their right mind should say "za dom spremni".

If you learned history yourself, you'd realize some things are forever tainted. Pathetic excuse of an irresponsible and asinine act. But that's Croatian expat nationalism for you: inbred patriotism completely insensitive to the past.

Za dom derp-a-derp!

From Daniel Ivkovic: "Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years."

Thank you so much for the history lesson Daniel. Was the Nazi salute displayed by your patriotic friend also used 600 years ago? No, it was used by the Nazi Ustasha fascist puppet state of your forefathers during WWII.

I guess FIFA didn't buy your explanation either as they fined your buddy $4,300 for his racist antics. The world is starting seeing the true Croatia.

Does anyone expect FIFA or any other body to punish this fascist; NO. The EU has accepted Croatia as a member state and will hide and sugar coat examples of what just occurred. This idiot mirrors the Croat people. Expect more to be revealed over time.

This is neither about Nazi’s nor WWII (just a friendly reminder: it finished in 1945), it is about moving the focus away from the current crisis and corrupt government.
(nebum tirekel, 22 November 2013 13:46)

And the Swastika is an ancient Bhuddist symbol, so the jews should move on too? Clearly everyone apart from the Croats must be very, very stupid.

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years.
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You argument is all wrong.
Swastika has been a symbol of good for 3000. Nazis hijacked and as a result it is no longer acceptable to use.
Nice try defending this hater.

Oh the irony, the boy is born and raised in Oz and turns his back on the country that gave him the opportunity to play the world game. Then sees it perfectly fit to chant a war slogan that was used in its prime during WW2 when the Nazis and Croats forged their partnership to kill innocentt women,children and men. Shame on you kangaroo wanna be.

Typical croatian.

He neds psychiatric help, and all of his buddies who folow his racist past, now it is the right time for Croatian leadarship to take strong stand against lunatics, and than the country will belong in EU.

well done croatia,we albanians are congradulation u for arriving in brasil.hope u will do your best and winn as much games as u can.we are watching u well done brothers

A much dumber croatian version of Dr. Strangelove.

Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HWbxQQMPpw

Watch the arm!

This is neither about Nazi’s nor WWII (just a friendly reminder: it finished in 1945), it is about moving the focus away from the current crisis and corrupt government.
(nebum tirekel, 22 November 2013 13:46)

I'd believe that more if Croats also weren't going bat sh*t crazy everytime they see a sign in the Cyrillic alphabet. If you suddenly can't move on from an alphabet associated with a war, why should anyone, Serb, Jew, Roma, or Partisan Croat move on from NDH?

Za dom get your argument straight

How can people say, "oh, it's just an innocent salute, predating Ustase", when this guy happily photographs himself a few days later in front of Pavelic's grave, as has been shown here in one of these comments.


Sheesh. hobby Croats, get a life.

I wonder why he stopped short of giving the salute as well.
Seeing how he did one the other should've followed. Did he think that if he doesn't actually give the salute nobody would care? /after all, it will only be the Serbs who are insulted.

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years.
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No cigar mate. Swastika was a symbol of good for 3000 until hijacked by the Nazis so it that cannot be used as a defense for using it now.

It's obviousl what this hater was saying. Why are you defending him?

Speaking of being forever tainted, "the Heavenly People" fall squarely into this category for the killing of helpless and innocent babies, women and the elderly during their aggressive wars against their neighbors in the 1990's.
(Marko K., 22 November 2013 19:08)

Here's the difference between Serbs and Croats: Serbs remember that past. Croats glorify their past. Serbs aren't proud and try to forget. Croats try to excuse and rewrite. Serbs deal with multiethnicity. Croats fight against it. Serbs committed war crimes. Croats systematically murdered people in death camps. The crimes of the 1990s were inexcusable. Your crimes of the 1940s are whitewashed.

Nice try attempting to deflect attention away from another one of your embarrassing moments of national "pride"

Za dom duh!

@ marko you croatian ustash created the CETNIKS do a little research before you spew your garbage it was you ustash that killed innocent women & children did you forget about Josanovac

Bam Bam, in another attempt at showing how a Nazi era salute is older and part of Croatia's heritage, you make more threats about the Ustasha coming back and targeting Serbs who don't get in line.

You're either a snot nosed little kid desperate for attention, or the biggest idiot on the internet. B92 should ban you permanently for your racist statements and praise of Jasenovac. You fascist scum got exactly what you deserved as Bleiburg, which explains why your family needs to hide in the US. Too bad UDBA didn't track down your grandparents.

There is no need for Šimunić to apologize, Šimunić did not do anything wrong. And whoever understood it wrong is their problem not Šimunić's.
(mario, 24 November 2013 22:34)
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Yeah, just like wearing swastika on your sleeve in a Jewish neighbourhood.
Swastika is a symbol of peace, according to ancient ways but you go and tell that to the Jews and make them understand that a German or a Croat is only wearing it for what it used to represent.
Do you think we are idiots?

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years. Also, i personnely know Joe, and he left Australia at the age of 18, so he has spent the majority of his life in Croatia and not in Australia. But i can tell you this, he is patriotic and loyal to both nations.
What he said was not wrong, he voiced his democratic opinion in a democratic country .

Serbia has its own Australian born Military leader who killed Captain Dragan who is truly a criminal. What is wrong when Serbs play March na Drina in UN its just a song ? when a Croatian just says that its Criminal this is much less serious than in UN where its suppose to be free of such things.

Just think about it!

Others...follow the angry mass with pitch forks and torches.
(nebum tirekel, 22 November 2013 15:36)

Yes. Those are the ones in the stadium along with Joe the Australian Croat we're venting our anger at.

No amount of denial and the attempted re-writing of history will erase those horrible crimes committed by you chetniks.
(Marko K., 22 November 2013 19:08)
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We, the "chetniks" have no desire to rewrite history but to only have it put right and the whole truth to be told.
We know about our crimes and we own them but we do no accept falsified numbers and imaginary crimes.
We also want your crimes exposed and you to own them and start telling the whole truth to your people.

You cannot wash away what this moron did by pointing fingers at us and calling us chetniks when we don't think that chetnik is a derogatory term. Now Ustasha is a bad thing to be.

If you learned history yourself, you'd realize some things are forever tainted. Pathetic excuse of an irresponsible and asinine act. But that's Croatian expat nationalism for you: inbred patriotism completely insensitive to the past.

Za dom derp-a-derp!
(Balkan Anthropologist, 22 November 2013 00:40)

B.A,

Speaking of being forever tainted, "the Heavenly People" fall squarely into this category for the killing of helpless and innocent babies, women and the elderly during their aggressive wars against their neighbors in the 1990's. No one will ever forget the heinous war crimes committed in the name of Serbia. These crimes have been etched on the minds of all decent people throughout the world, thanks to Youtube. No amount of denial and the attempted re-writing of history will erase those horrible crimes committed by you chetniks.

Sheesh. hobby Croats, get a life.
(Danilo, 25 November 2013 10:53)
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Hobby Croat, hobby Serb, who the Hell are you to decide who someone is?
I can't be a hobby Serb when Serbian blood runs through my veins. That makes me a Serb. A Serb who has different opinions about things, especially different to your opinions but it doesn't give you the right to call anyone hobby this or hobby that.

It's obvious you think you are the smartest but do you know what that kind of thinking makes you?

@ lenard hahahaha now your team is really za dom spremni.

You are the very definition of a hobby Serb. Don't let that bother you too much, we all need our hobbies.
(Danilo, 26 November 2013 00:27)
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All hail to the wise and all knowing OZ.

You are the most ridiculous person here. You actually surpass Bam Bam and that's hard to do.

To have the audacity to tell someone who they are is the ultimate arrogance. Your blood is definitely not Serbian. We all have our traitors and those who are ashamed to be who they are and you are one of those, if indeed you have any Serbian blood running through your veins.

Only a fool would say such rubbish. Keep your beliefs but know that you are nothing and stand for nothing.
When you grow up you might understand this.

This is neither about Nazi’s nor WWII (just a friendly reminder: it finished in 1945), it is about moving the focus away from the current crisis and corrupt government. This is a diversion. Opinionated individuals with too much time on their hands (while being paid by Croatian budget) try to imply that “Za dom: Spremni!” is a Nazi chant hoping that the good old strategy of thousand times repeated lie becomes truth would work once and again. Well, as long as there are normal people, down to earth who are aware of the fact that Croatia’s entire political “elite” is excrement of the communist regime in better case or in the worse case UDBA’s spawns that have committed atrocities around the world under the red star and communist ideology there is a hope that the truth will remain clear.
What surprises me is the level of intellect of people who build their opinion based upon skewed opinions of marginal simpletons with power to post trash online for others to see. “Za dom : Spremni!” is an old Croatian chant used throughout history for the good of the homeland (which is almost the actual translation). Just like in any other rule there are exceptions to this one which resulted in usage of such chant by criminals...again, exception to the rule. Just like some criminals used the cross as a tool for mass hypnosis. Still, the cross is not illegal but who knows, one day it might be if we all start thinking the way diversionists would like us to.

And the Swastika is an ancient Bhuddist symbol, so the jews should move on too? Clearly everyone apart from the Croats must be very, very stupid.
(Yes But, No But, Yes But...., 22 November 2013 14:15)
Well clearly, some non Croatians actually ARE very, very stupid. Thousand times repeated lie actually does become the truth but thank God (or whomever you believe in or don't believe in) there are objective people with ability to think critically and actually use that gift. They are able to recognise diversion. Others...follow the angry mass with pitch forks and torches.

(pissed off australian tax payer, 22 November 2013 03:15)

Don't worry the one in Punchbowl that Mesic made his speech is closing it's doors soon.

A hobby Serb/Croat, Peggy is someone like you, someone like BamBam, someone like Ari Gold..... You might have "Serbian" blood running through your veins (just like me), you might be really PROUD of your ethnic heritage (unlike me, I prefer to take pride in my accomplishments, not something as random as where you happened to be born) but you don't live in Serbia.

You've never lived as an adult in Serbia. You probably never will. This isn't a bad thing, however, you must recognize (or don't), that your opinions on something that you have little direct experience with aren't necessarily going to have any basis in reality.

So, that's why you and bambam are ridiculous (two sides of the same coin). You are such a loudmouth about something you actually don't know much about yet don't realize that this is the case.

You are the very definition of a hobby Serb. Don't let that bother you too much, we all need our hobbies.

So, that's why you and bambam are ridiculous (two sides of the same coin). You are such a loudmouth about something you actually don't know much about yet don't realize that this is the case.

Really Danilo?

After all the mega bigotry and trolling spouted by BamBam in direct contravention of B92 posting rules and is still here? Peggy has strong views, but she is nowhere near as nasty. And you see yourself fit to pass judgement? Why should anyone take you seriously? Are you superior?

I'm not sure what the Serbs are so upset about. Didn't FIFA recently fine the Serbian Football Association because Sebian fans racially abused a black player from England? Also, if I remember correctly, several years ago when Bosnia played against Serbia in Belgrade, didn't Serbian fans have banners all over the stadium saying "Noz, Zica, Srebrenica," and "Ratko Mladic je Heroj?" This type of behavior is as bad, if not worse, than the behavior displayed by the Simunic.

Come on people....What is all the fuss about Za Dom Spremni goes back 500 years.. Like I keep saying to those Serbs in Croatia. Like it or not expect the Ustasa tradition to be passed on to the next generation. The Ustase will not die as Serbs are hoping for. You would think the Serbs would be used to this by now. Its time for the Serbs in Croatia to understand that Ustasa families are priority. The Hercegovnian diaspora lobby is extremly powerful and wealthy, no one can stop them. Expect the left to crumble in the next few years.

Various versions of this greeting Croats used nearly 500 years. So I do not see where this greeting are linked to the WW2, WW2 variants is "For the Leader and home - we're are ready. This particular Šimunić version "Za dom - spremni!" variant dates back to the 19th century " Nikola Subic Zrinski in the struggle against the Turks, the version was Za dom spremni! ("For home(land) - ready!") There is no need for Šimunić to apologize, Šimunić did not do anything wrong. And whoever understood it wrong is their problem not Šimunić's.

So I really do not understand on what basis you rave hatred here against Croatians? Based on the Croatian minister in Belgrade that has seen burning Croatian flags, or banner signs written on them "Vukovar is Serbia" in Cyrillic, which probably Croatian minister has a hearing problem and did not hear'' kill Ustasha , kill Croats so Šiptar does not have a brother'' and then'' slogan "Vukovar is Serbiar'' and after that'' Chetniks'' then "Send us salads, there will be meat, there will be meat, we will slaughter Croats!" Interesting! Would you like I continue?

He has been infected with the human disease church, nationalism and the flag. What does one say to Josip Simunic and like minded people? Josip you are a narrow-minded man; you are half-educated man; you are an unintelligent man just like those who saluted you and with that same hand they will go home and beat their wife.

and with that same hand they will go home and beat their wife.
(Bob Campbell, 26 November 2013 23:31)
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I really hope not.

Danilo/Doot said to Peggy, "You are such a loudmouth about something you actually don't know much about yet don't realize that this is the case."

Look who is judging who as a trash mouth.

You are a 40 some year old human being who couldn't make it in Vancouver so you relocated. Regardless of where you live you are miserable. Serbia is not the problem ... look in the mirror.

If it continues to offend Pupovac and his Orthodox cronies, then may it continue for generations. We are about 5 years from our ultimate goal and that is to move the Serbs across the Danube to Beograd. We hope the cancer can be eradicated. Jovan Raskovic will be rolling in his grave...!

Balkan Anthro Boy,

Seems you forgot the line about the evil, unspeakable murders and torture carried out by the Serbs in the 90s. Not to mention the death camps run by the Serbs, not to mention the mass graves the Serbs are responsible for, not to mention the massacres - in Croatia and Bosna and Hercegovina. 'Serbs committed war crimes'...nice try. Now who's hiding??
Sorry, forgot about the Croatian flag burning 'people' in Belgrade in September.
BTW...to all the 'sensitive' folk out there, Cirilica has about as much place in Vukovar as a sign in Arabic does at the World Trade Centre. There's something for your sensitive minds to think about...

well done croatia,we albanians are congradulation u for arriving in brasil.hope u will do your best and winn as much games as u can.we are watching u well done brothers

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years. Also, i personnely know Joe, and he left Australia at the age of 18, so he has spent the majority of his life in Croatia and not in Australia. But i can tell you this, he is patriotic and loyal to both nations.
What he said was not wrong, he voiced his democratic opinion in a democratic country .

Serbia has its own Australian born Military leader who killed Captain Dragan who is truly a criminal. What is wrong when Serbs play March na Drina in UN its just a song ? when a Croatian just says that its Criminal this is much less serious than in UN where its suppose to be free of such things.

Just think about it!

If you learned history yourself, you'd realize some things are forever tainted. Pathetic excuse of an irresponsible and asinine act. But that's Croatian expat nationalism for you: inbred patriotism completely insensitive to the past.

Za dom derp-a-derp!
(Balkan Anthropologist, 22 November 2013 00:40)

B.A,

Speaking of being forever tainted, "the Heavenly People" fall squarely into this category for the killing of helpless and innocent babies, women and the elderly during their aggressive wars against their neighbors in the 1990's. No one will ever forget the heinous war crimes committed in the name of Serbia. These crimes have been etched on the minds of all decent people throughout the world, thanks to Youtube. No amount of denial and the attempted re-writing of history will erase those horrible crimes committed by you chetniks.

Come on people....What is all the fuss about Za Dom Spremni goes back 500 years.. Like I keep saying to those Serbs in Croatia. Like it or not expect the Ustasa tradition to be passed on to the next generation. The Ustase will not die as Serbs are hoping for. You would think the Serbs would be used to this by now. Its time for the Serbs in Croatia to understand that Ustasa families are priority. The Hercegovnian diaspora lobby is extremly powerful and wealthy, no one can stop them. Expect the left to crumble in the next few years.

Various versions of this greeting Croats used nearly 500 years. So I do not see where this greeting are linked to the WW2, WW2 variants is "For the Leader and home - we're are ready. This particular Šimunić version "Za dom - spremni!" variant dates back to the 19th century " Nikola Subic Zrinski in the struggle against the Turks, the version was Za dom spremni! ("For home(land) - ready!") There is no need for Šimunić to apologize, Šimunić did not do anything wrong. And whoever understood it wrong is their problem not Šimunić's.

This is neither about Nazi’s nor WWII (just a friendly reminder: it finished in 1945), it is about moving the focus away from the current crisis and corrupt government. This is a diversion. Opinionated individuals with too much time on their hands (while being paid by Croatian budget) try to imply that “Za dom: Spremni!” is a Nazi chant hoping that the good old strategy of thousand times repeated lie becomes truth would work once and again. Well, as long as there are normal people, down to earth who are aware of the fact that Croatia’s entire political “elite” is excrement of the communist regime in better case or in the worse case UDBA’s spawns that have committed atrocities around the world under the red star and communist ideology there is a hope that the truth will remain clear.
What surprises me is the level of intellect of people who build their opinion based upon skewed opinions of marginal simpletons with power to post trash online for others to see. “Za dom : Spremni!” is an old Croatian chant used throughout history for the good of the homeland (which is almost the actual translation). Just like in any other rule there are exceptions to this one which resulted in usage of such chant by criminals...again, exception to the rule. Just like some criminals used the cross as a tool for mass hypnosis. Still, the cross is not illegal but who knows, one day it might be if we all start thinking the way diversionists would like us to.

And the Swastika is an ancient Bhuddist symbol, so the jews should move on too? Clearly everyone apart from the Croats must be very, very stupid.
(Yes But, No But, Yes But...., 22 November 2013 14:15)
Well clearly, some non Croatians actually ARE very, very stupid. Thousand times repeated lie actually does become the truth but thank God (or whomever you believe in or don't believe in) there are objective people with ability to think critically and actually use that gift. They are able to recognise diversion. Others...follow the angry mass with pitch forks and torches.

Perhaps now the world knows why there was a war in the balkans.

He also said that "people need to learn some history", which is incredibly ironic and really applies to him. Living in Australia he seems completely ignorant to the blood spilled in association with that phrase. Idiot.

I wonder why he stopped short of giving the salute as well.
Seeing how he did one the other should've followed. Did he think that if he doesn't actually give the salute nobody would care? /after all, it will only be the Serbs who are insulted.

Croatia once again keeps it classy.

Joe Šimunić raises his arm proudly and salutes Croatia.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/croatian-simunic-nazi-chant-world-cup/

Like his brothers Bam Bam and Lenard ... another fine Croatian representative.

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years. Also, i personnely know Joe, and he left Australia at the age of 18, so he has spent the majority of his life in Croatia and not in Australia. But i can tell you this, he is patriotic and loyal to both nations.
What he said was not wrong, he voiced his democratic opinion in a democratic country .
(Daniel Ivkovic, 21 November 2013 21:09)

I don't care what "Za dom spremni" meant BEFORE the NDH. The fact that it was associated with the NDH negates ANY and ALL use of it. That he used the Nazi salute also means he knew exactly what he was doing. The swastika was used before Hitler too. You don't see anyone with even a fraction of intelligence try to rehabilitate that.

If you Croat wannabes have nothing other than fascist slogans to show your patriotism, then you indeed are a culturally impoverished society. I don't give a damn what you or other expats try to say. No one in their right mind says "Sieg Heil". No one in their right mind should say "za dom spremni".

If you learned history yourself, you'd realize some things are forever tainted. Pathetic excuse of an irresponsible and asinine act. But that's Croatian expat nationalism for you: inbred patriotism completely insensitive to the past.

Za dom derp-a-derp!

Oh the irony, the boy is born and raised in Oz and turns his back on the country that gave him the opportunity to play the world game. Then sees it perfectly fit to chant a war slogan that was used in its prime during WW2 when the Nazis and Croats forged their partnership to kill innocentt women,children and men. Shame on you kangaroo wanna be.

Does anyone expect FIFA or any other body to punish this fascist; NO. The EU has accepted Croatia as a member state and will hide and sugar coat examples of what just occurred. This idiot mirrors the Croat people. Expect more to be revealed over time.

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years.
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No cigar mate. Swastika was a symbol of good for 3000 until hijacked by the Nazis so it that cannot be used as a defense for using it now.

It's obviousl what this hater was saying. Why are you defending him?

From Daniel Ivkovic: "Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years."

Thank you so much for the history lesson Daniel. Was the Nazi salute displayed by your patriotic friend also used 600 years ago? No, it was used by the Nazi Ustasha fascist puppet state of your forefathers during WWII.

I guess FIFA didn't buy your explanation either as they fined your buddy $4,300 for his racist antics. The world is starting seeing the true Croatia.

He neds psychiatric help, and all of his buddies who folow his racist past, now it is the right time for Croatian leadarship to take strong stand against lunatics, and than the country will belong in EU.

This moron should have stopped at "that's your problem" instead of trying to give some half-assed excuse of a Nazi salute and NDH chant being some unrequited love of a Homeland he doesn't live in. Typical Croatian "patriotism" where everyone but them sees it as a display of racism, intolerance, and an unhealthy love for the NDH that Tudjman worked so hard to rehabilitate.

I guess I can shout "Sieg Heil" but explain how I just love the feeling of winning.

Za dom --- I'm so stupid I have no idea what I'm doing!

Ban 'em, to be replaced by Serbia.

Balkan Anthropologist once again go and learn your history. Za Dom Spremni was first used by Nikola Subic Zrinski at the battle of Siget, then by the armies of Ban Josip Jelacic. So, to make it simple for you, this slogan has been used for over 600 years.
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You argument is all wrong.
Swastika has been a symbol of good for 3000. Nazis hijacked and as a result it is no longer acceptable to use.
Nice try defending this hater.

Typical croatian.

If it continues to offend Pupovac and his Orthodox cronies, then may it continue for generations. We are about 5 years from our ultimate goal and that is to move the Serbs across the Danube to Beograd. We hope the cancer can be eradicated. Jovan Raskovic will be rolling in his grave...!

Balkan Anthro Boy,

Seems you forgot the line about the evil, unspeakable murders and torture carried out by the Serbs in the 90s. Not to mention the death camps run by the Serbs, not to mention the mass graves the Serbs are responsible for, not to mention the massacres - in Croatia and Bosna and Hercegovina. 'Serbs committed war crimes'...nice try. Now who's hiding??
Sorry, forgot about the Croatian flag burning 'people' in Belgrade in September.
BTW...to all the 'sensitive' folk out there, Cirilica has about as much place in Vukovar as a sign in Arabic does at the World Trade Centre. There's something for your sensitive minds to think about...

A much dumber croatian version of Dr. Strangelove.

Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HWbxQQMPpw

Watch the arm!

Daniel...
The only reason this pathetic excuse for a human is patriotic to australia is because tax payers money help fund his scholarship at the australian institute of sport and if shit were to hit the fan over there, he would coming running back to australia.
Ya real patriotic to australia needing 3 yellow cards before being sent off against australia in the WC2006 game in stuttgart.
Pathetic daniel absolutely pathetic.
Oh and one more thing Daniel. i have a cro background and i cant stand this idiot and all the other idiots in australia that go to these croatian clubs with pictures of their fascist hero ante pavelic hanging proud.
so please cut the crap..

signed
pissed off australian tax payer

This is neither about Nazi’s nor WWII (just a friendly reminder: it finished in 1945), it is about moving the focus away from the current crisis and corrupt government.
(nebum tirekel, 22 November 2013 13:46)

And the Swastika is an ancient Bhuddist symbol, so the jews should move on too? Clearly everyone apart from the Croats must be very, very stupid.

This is neither about Nazi’s nor WWII (just a friendly reminder: it finished in 1945), it is about moving the focus away from the current crisis and corrupt government.
(nebum tirekel, 22 November 2013 13:46)

I'd believe that more if Croats also weren't going bat sh*t crazy everytime they see a sign in the Cyrillic alphabet. If you suddenly can't move on from an alphabet associated with a war, why should anyone, Serb, Jew, Roma, or Partisan Croat move on from NDH?

Za dom get your argument straight

So I really do not understand on what basis you rave hatred here against Croatians? Based on the Croatian minister in Belgrade that has seen burning Croatian flags, or banner signs written on them "Vukovar is Serbia" in Cyrillic, which probably Croatian minister has a hearing problem and did not hear'' kill Ustasha , kill Croats so Šiptar does not have a brother'' and then'' slogan "Vukovar is Serbiar'' and after that'' Chetniks'' then "Send us salads, there will be meat, there will be meat, we will slaughter Croats!" Interesting! Would you like I continue?

Others...follow the angry mass with pitch forks and torches.
(nebum tirekel, 22 November 2013 15:36)

Yes. Those are the ones in the stadium along with Joe the Australian Croat we're venting our anger at.

How can people say, "oh, it's just an innocent salute, predating Ustase", when this guy happily photographs himself a few days later in front of Pavelic's grave, as has been shown here in one of these comments.


Sheesh. hobby Croats, get a life.

A hobby Serb/Croat, Peggy is someone like you, someone like BamBam, someone like Ari Gold..... You might have "Serbian" blood running through your veins (just like me), you might be really PROUD of your ethnic heritage (unlike me, I prefer to take pride in my accomplishments, not something as random as where you happened to be born) but you don't live in Serbia.

You've never lived as an adult in Serbia. You probably never will. This isn't a bad thing, however, you must recognize (or don't), that your opinions on something that you have little direct experience with aren't necessarily going to have any basis in reality.

So, that's why you and bambam are ridiculous (two sides of the same coin). You are such a loudmouth about something you actually don't know much about yet don't realize that this is the case.

You are the very definition of a hobby Serb. Don't let that bother you too much, we all need our hobbies.

@ marko you croatian ustash created the CETNIKS do a little research before you spew your garbage it was you ustash that killed innocent women & children did you forget about Josanovac

Sheesh. hobby Croats, get a life.
(Danilo, 25 November 2013 10:53)
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Hobby Croat, hobby Serb, who the Hell are you to decide who someone is?
I can't be a hobby Serb when Serbian blood runs through my veins. That makes me a Serb. A Serb who has different opinions about things, especially different to your opinions but it doesn't give you the right to call anyone hobby this or hobby that.

It's obvious you think you are the smartest but do you know what that kind of thinking makes you?

Speaking of being forever tainted, "the Heavenly People" fall squarely into this category for the killing of helpless and innocent babies, women and the elderly during their aggressive wars against their neighbors in the 1990's.
(Marko K., 22 November 2013 19:08)

Here's the difference between Serbs and Croats: Serbs remember that past. Croats glorify their past. Serbs aren't proud and try to forget. Croats try to excuse and rewrite. Serbs deal with multiethnicity. Croats fight against it. Serbs committed war crimes. Croats systematically murdered people in death camps. The crimes of the 1990s were inexcusable. Your crimes of the 1940s are whitewashed.

Nice try attempting to deflect attention away from another one of your embarrassing moments of national "pride"

Za dom duh!

No amount of denial and the attempted re-writing of history will erase those horrible crimes committed by you chetniks.
(Marko K., 22 November 2013 19:08)
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We, the "chetniks" have no desire to rewrite history but to only have it put right and the whole truth to be told.
We know about our crimes and we own them but we do no accept falsified numbers and imaginary crimes.
We also want your crimes exposed and you to own them and start telling the whole truth to your people.

You cannot wash away what this moron did by pointing fingers at us and calling us chetniks when we don't think that chetnik is a derogatory term. Now Ustasha is a bad thing to be.

@ lenard hahahaha now your team is really za dom spremni.

Bam Bam, in another attempt at showing how a Nazi era salute is older and part of Croatia's heritage, you make more threats about the Ustasha coming back and targeting Serbs who don't get in line.

You're either a snot nosed little kid desperate for attention, or the biggest idiot on the internet. B92 should ban you permanently for your racist statements and praise of Jasenovac. You fascist scum got exactly what you deserved as Bleiburg, which explains why your family needs to hide in the US. Too bad UDBA didn't track down your grandparents.

I'm not sure what the Serbs are so upset about. Didn't FIFA recently fine the Serbian Football Association because Sebian fans racially abused a black player from England? Also, if I remember correctly, several years ago when Bosnia played against Serbia in Belgrade, didn't Serbian fans have banners all over the stadium saying "Noz, Zica, Srebrenica," and "Ratko Mladic je Heroj?" This type of behavior is as bad, if not worse, than the behavior displayed by the Simunic.

There is no need for Šimunić to apologize, Šimunić did not do anything wrong. And whoever understood it wrong is their problem not Šimunić's.
(mario, 24 November 2013 22:34)
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Yeah, just like wearing swastika on your sleeve in a Jewish neighbourhood.
Swastika is a symbol of peace, according to ancient ways but you go and tell that to the Jews and make them understand that a German or a Croat is only wearing it for what it used to represent.
Do you think we are idiots?

He has been infected with the human disease church, nationalism and the flag. What does one say to Josip Simunic and like minded people? Josip you are a narrow-minded man; you are half-educated man; you are an unintelligent man just like those who saluted you and with that same hand they will go home and beat their wife.

(pissed off australian tax payer, 22 November 2013 03:15)

Don't worry the one in Punchbowl that Mesic made his speech is closing it's doors soon.

You are the very definition of a hobby Serb. Don't let that bother you too much, we all need our hobbies.
(Danilo, 26 November 2013 00:27)
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All hail to the wise and all knowing OZ.

You are the most ridiculous person here. You actually surpass Bam Bam and that's hard to do.

To have the audacity to tell someone who they are is the ultimate arrogance. Your blood is definitely not Serbian. We all have our traitors and those who are ashamed to be who they are and you are one of those, if indeed you have any Serbian blood running through your veins.

Only a fool would say such rubbish. Keep your beliefs but know that you are nothing and stand for nothing.
When you grow up you might understand this.

So, that's why you and bambam are ridiculous (two sides of the same coin). You are such a loudmouth about something you actually don't know much about yet don't realize that this is the case.

Really Danilo?

After all the mega bigotry and trolling spouted by BamBam in direct contravention of B92 posting rules and is still here? Peggy has strong views, but she is nowhere near as nasty. And you see yourself fit to pass judgement? Why should anyone take you seriously? Are you superior?

and with that same hand they will go home and beat their wife.
(Bob Campbell, 26 November 2013 23:31)
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I really hope not.

Danilo/Doot said to Peggy, "You are such a loudmouth about something you actually don't know much about yet don't realize that this is the case."

Look who is judging who as a trash mouth.

You are a 40 some year old human being who couldn't make it in Vancouver so you relocated. Regardless of where you live you are miserable. Serbia is not the problem ... look in the mirror.