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Tuesday, 19.11.2013.

15:21

Minister "again banned from entering Kosovo"

Aleksandar Vulin said on Tuesday that the authorities in Priština have placed a ban on his entering the province once again.

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icj1

pre 10 godina

Considering that each US state has its own flag with its own symbols, I see nothing wrong with what I have described earlier, an outline of Kosovo in blue with a semi circle of stars. The difference is that there is no mention of an independent Kosovo anywhere on those papers. That is my point.
(sj, 22 November 2013 10:15)

I fully agree (as always) with the CE of B92 forums here. The papers had to contain a disclaimer like "Be aware: by using this paper to vote you are committing high treason and recognizing Kosovo's independence and that is a sin that will be punished by the Almighty who sees everything, even inside the voting booth".

Since the ballot papers did not contain such a statement, sj is correct, as always.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

(sj, 21 November 2013 21:39)

Your silly. You dont understand point of embassy.Serbia has embassy in Zambia.
(Haitian, 22 November 2013 13:44)

Be careful there! Our dear sj has served for senior government officials so he/she knows much better than all of us combined what is the point of an Embassy

sj

pre 10 godina

(Haitian, 22 November 2013 13:44)

Serbia has interests in Zambia because it has people and firms working in that part of Africa so I can see a need for an embassy or consulate. How many Albanians work in Australia, Vanuatu, Fiji, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and New Zealand? or how many Albanian firms work there? I know that most Albanians from whether from Kosovo or Albania in Australia are on social security benefits so where you get BS about being busy is beyond me.
Tourism in Kosovo - what tourism? Do you think for a moment anyone with a brain cell would like to visit an unstable region with foreign troops to keep the peace????
Who in their right mind would camp anywhere in Kosovo considering that it is full of depleted uranium? Kosovo has the second highest cancer rate in the world with Iraq in first place.
Prishtina and Prizren..... Lots of museums and old buildings...party towns.”
Yes they are party towns especially when Albanians get drunk and start shooting in the air. I have been to those museums and there is nothing belonging to Albanians – its either Turkish or Serb. Those old buildings were built by Serb or Turks.
What mental asylum have you escaped from to write this rubbish?

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
It is fun to see you try to squirm and prove something that does not exist. True every state in the US has its own flag but none of them claim for that flag to represent a sovereign nation, as a matter of fact the state flag must always fly lower than the US flag. The flag of Kosovo was developed with the approval of the EU to represent Kosovo after the declaration of independence. It was said in agreement that the only symbol on the ballots would be the seal of the Kosovo Election Commission and that would not be a state symbol to appease the Serbs but since according to you it was actually the recognized flag of the Republic of Kosovo on the ballots I guess state symbols were used.
Your point you attempted to make did not actually make it to reality.

Haitian

pre 10 godina

(sj, 21 November 2013 21:39)

Your silly. You dont understand point of embassy.Serbia has embassy in Zambia. Is that for all Serbs who live in Zambia? How many Serbs in Zambia? 4? What services does Serbia Embassy in Zambia do? Kosova Embassy in Australia is bussier than Serbian Embassy in Zambia. Why Serbia have embassy in Zambia? No need.People in Zambia do not know there is a Serbia.

Kosova diplomacy in pacific is very successful. We have diplomatic relations with Australia Vanuatu Fiji Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru and New Zealand. We have recognition from East Timor Papua New Guinea Kiribati Samoa and Tuvalu. In future we have relation with them too! Kosova embassy in Australia is center for diplomacy all over Pacific.

Tourism in Kosova grow. Not in North Kosova. Very dangerous for tourists and non Serbs! There is lots to see and do in Kosova. Lots of History from colonial times of Ottomans and Serbs. Nice land scapes. You can go skiing in snow mountains. Prishtina and Prizren are very friendly citys for tourists Lots of museums and old buildings. They are party towns. We have lots of food and drink. Kosova is very cheap for tourists and everyone speak english. This why tourism increase every year. Also no visa for westeners.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 22 November 2013 05:25)

Considering that each US state has its own flag with its own symbols, I see nothing wrong with what I have described earlier, an outline of Kosovo in blue with a semi circle of stars. The difference is that there is no mention of an independent Kosovo anywhere on those papers. That is my point.

sj

pre 10 godina

You just contradicted our B92 CE sj (TM icj1), with your words sj. In fact, it was him with his deep knowledge of how investments work that said exactly these words 12 hours earlier, implying the opposite of what you said 12 hours later:

"How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility."
(sj, 20 November 2013 10:21)

so it is your word against your word and, since you are the expert and we have to believe what you say, we have to contradict what you say.
(Reader, 21 November 2013 21:32)

What ever you are on cut the dose.

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
what you describe to me sounds a lot like the official flag of Kosovo????
I don't think you can get a more state symbol than that. Anything that has a Serbian flag on it people identify with the state of Serbia, or anything with a Malaysian flag is identified with the state of Malaysia, am I wrong?

sj

pre 10 godina

(Haitian, 20 November 2013 23:42)
Considering there are only 10 000 Albanians in Australia and the number from Kosovo would number possibly less than 2000 what services would this embassy provide considering that 90% of your Kosovoars in Australia are on social security?
“.. Kosova diplomacy in Pacific region”
What that? People in the pacific don’t even know that there is a Kosovo.
Tourism? What do you Albanians have to show tourists? Drugs or organs for sale? Or perhaps you’re trying to pass off Serbian Churches and structures as your own because “they were originally Albanian stolen by Serbs? But then if you admit that they are Serbian the average tourist is going to ask if these are all Serbian where is your ancient buildings since you have been in Kosovo since the dawn of time???
On the issue of Hitler, I see that English is a second language to you and I’ll let it go.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 21 November 2013 05:06)

I know that the US is going backwards at a fast pace but have you heard of a new technology called skype and that you can take a picture with a cell phone. Now the ballot papers in Serb areas had no “republic of Kosovo” on it. Just like the polling booths they only had on them, now pay very close attention to this, a symbol of Kosovo with blue and a semi circle of stars on it – NO Kosova this or Kosova that - now do you get the picture?

Reader

pre 10 godina

"My first question to you is what do you do for a living? Because “you know investments in most cases are private enterprises” is straight out of a primary school book. You have very little understanding of how investment works. It is enticed to come to a country; why do you thing Presidents and Prime Ministers travel overseas and give dinners and speeches to business people????. "
(sj, 20 November 2013 22:48)

You just contradicted our B92 CE sj (TM icj1), with your words sj. In fact, it was him with his deep knowledge of how investments work that said exactly these words 12 hours earlier, implying the opposite of what you said 12 hours later:

"How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility."
(sj, 20 November 2013 10:21)

so it is your word against your word and, since you are the expert and we have to believe what you say, we have to contradict what you say.

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
So Pristina says symbols were on the ballots, Belgrade says symbols were on the ballots, Brussels says symbols were on the ballot no one who has voted has disputed that the symbol of the Kosovo Election Commission was on the ballots, but a Half Serb/Australian in Malaysia knows the truth that there was nothing on the ballots because some Serb was willing to corrupt the election process and send you a copy of the ballots, in other words there was no control over the Serb voting process.
I take my previous comment back Vulin has a long way to go to paralell your credibility.

Haitian

pre 10 godina

(sj, 20 November 2013 22:35)

This image was used on all ballot papers in Kosova, even Serbs. It is symbol of Kosova Election Commission who answer to Republic of Kosova. Even colors used a same as Kosova flag and coat of arms.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Kosovan_elections_neitral_logo.svg

Kosova has embassy is Australia to provide diplomatic services to Kosovars in Australia and to be center of Kosova diplomacy in Pacific region as whole. There are not many Australian or Australian tourists in Kosova and Australia has lots of embassies in Europe therefor no need for Australian embassy in Kosova. Instead Australian ambassador in Vienna Austria is subordinated ambassador to Kosova.

Why not recognize Hitler? He did exist. It is fact. You deny Hitler exist? You deny Holocaust? With your hardline views it is not very suprising.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikolle, 20 November 2013 12:40)

My first question to you is what do you do for a living? Because “you know investments in most cases are private enterprises” is straight out of a primary school book. You have very little understanding of how investment works. It is enticed to come to a country; why do you thing Presidents and Prime Ministers travel overseas and give dinners and speeches to business people????.
The EU pays for Kosovo and considering Kosovo has an official unemployment level of 45% (what a joke that is) but in actual fact is closer to 80% you would think that there are a few bright sparks in Brussels that would say why not entice investment to Kosovo and lessen our financial burden, especially since the OECD has downgrade world growth by a percentage point and have even stated that there is no end in sight to this world downturn.
Maybe I’m wrong and if so I’ll stop reading “Where is Wlado”.

sj

pre 10 godina

Haitan, 20 November 2013 10:52)

Yes they had symbols on ballot papers where Albanians voted but not the serbs so what’s you point? I saw copies of ballot papers that were distributed in serb areas and NO SYMBOLS.
Australia would recognise Adolph Hitler if told by the US as we have idiots in politics at both State and federal level, but this is being eroded as China takes over. The Minister for Foreign affairs who you see at the opening is Bob Carr, truly befitting to be at that occasion as he is a crook who sold NSW assets to Macquarie bank then upon retirement spent 12 months in a palatial office in Bond Street, Sydney at an enormous salary. On that issue I have no idea why you would even have an embassy here as there are only 10000 Albanians in Australia, but as the EU pays for it who cares. But there is no Australian embassy or consulate in Pristina – tells you a lot.

Monaliza

pre 10 godina

As soon as the provisional institutions of Kosovo ban something to Vulin , I know that they have a problem and that they should turn their attention to the same problem. They need a unifier. For the provisional institutions of Kosovo this are Minister Vulin and Serbs and the Serbian State. The same recipe as in Croatia for problem of the Cyrillic alphabet .

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

its not the job of the EU to bring industries to Kosova ! seriously sj, you work in finance? don't you know investments in most cases are private enterprises? honestly have you actually ever read a book? find waldo doesn't count. why doesn't open an office in Kosova? dear oh dear. why doesn't British Aerospace open an office in New Zealand if New Zealand is independent?!

sj

pre 10 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 20 November 2013 00:34)

Brussels did react and recalled those ballot papers and they were destroyed. There nothing critical as even Belgrade did not react. It was a trick used by Thaci to “prove” to the simple Albanians that he is winning.
Yes there were “state symbols of the Republic of Kosova (a goat and donkey side by side) printed on the ballots” but they were for the Albanian areas mate. I saw the ballot papers.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 20 November 2013 03:22)

Lad you have been living in the US for far too long and you’ll believe anything they tell you. Sadly Americans have gone from being the smartest to one of the most backward people on earth.
First of all I have seen this game played many times before this Kosovo business. It is EULEX that monitors who are what comes into Kosovo not Pristina mate. When are you going to wake up to the fact that Albanians live off the EU otherwise they would starve to death. EULEX only passes on this information to Pristina as a matter of courtesy nothing else – if it was otherwise why doesn’t Pristina tell EULEX what to do?????
Vulin is playing a game – that’s all.
The symbol on the ballot papers was a picture of Kosovo in blue with stars in a semi circle – this is an EU designed symbol. I’ve had a picture sent to me of the ballot papers – it has no writing at all referring to an independent Kosovo. It never will mate.
Wake up 13 years your people have been living like dogs scavenging a living and you call it great. If the EU is hell bent on keeping Kosovo independent why don’t they bring industries to Kosovo????????? Surely the CEO of Microsoft could have gone to Pristina and talked about opening a facility there???????? No he went to Belgrade to discuss this issue.
How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility.

Haitan

pre 10 godina

Just like Albanians claimed that ballot papers would have Kosova’s symbols, your wrong again. In accord with agreement signed with the EU to keep matters neutral, all access to Kosovo is submitted to EULEX not the goat herders in Pristina.
Don’t you get tired of getting it wrong over and over again? Anyway I doubt Thaci or his so called ministers can read.
(sj, 19 November 2013 22:21)

You are wrong. You did not vote in election. I did. I live in Kosova. You do not. You think you are expert on Kosova. You have never been to Kosova. I saw ballot paper. You did not. Serbs in wild west cowboy land North Kosova saw ballot paper. They saw state symbol. You did not see state symbol of Kosova because you are in Australia not Kosova. If you want to see state symbol of Kosova in Australia, go to Kosova embassy in Canberra.

Good day.

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 19 November 2013 22:21)
You are so funny trying to convince others you are the all knowing Wiz. I don't think anyone but yourself would be unable to see through the charade.
If you read the article or have someone read it to you, you will find it is the Serbs claiming it is Pristina making the ban not Albanians. It has been established by almost everyone except sj that the Serbs present their requests to EULEX or UNMIK which courier it over to the Kosovo govt and wait for a response and then courier it back to the Serbs.
As far as symbols on the ballots the Kosovo Election Commission seal was there which was a state symbol but the Serb elites portrayed it to the naïve Serbs that it was not and of course apparently you fall into that category.
However Vulin is losing credibility rapidly, who knows maybe some day it will be parallel with your own.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

sj,

You are once again proved wrong.

Below is from an article by Serbian journalist Zorana Suhakovic:

"Just before the elections Pristina printed ballots with Kosovo state insignia which created additional disquiet among the Serbs. Brussels did not react to this fast enough and Hashim Thachi boasted that the participation of Serbs in the election was a clear sign that their goal of statehood has been reached."

p.s. If you had voted, you would have seen the state symbols of the Republic of Kosova printed on the ballots.

sj

pre 10 godina

(the truth, 19 November 2013 16:17)

Just like Albanians claimed that ballot papers would have Kosova’s symbols, your wrong again. In accord with agreement signed with the EU to keep matters neutral, all access to Kosovo is submitted to EULEX not the goat herders in Pristina.
Don’t you get tired of getting it wrong over and over again? Anyway I doubt Thaci or his so called ministers can read.

Paul

pre 10 godina

This little drama is going to happen again and again until the real authorities in the "international community" are too embarrassed to dignify it any more and these Serbs will be able to come and go as they please.

Tammy

pre 10 godina

It’s such a shame that Serbian minister can’t visit his country or even foreign country in 21st century. Do we need permission to visit Serbs? I think Brussels must react.

winston

pre 10 godina

This guy purely campaigns in Kosovo for Vucic's SNS party, Pantic is their candidate. That is forbidden, not only by Pristina, but by the international community. Vulin has no beef, he is not liked in Serbia either. In fact, many Serbs would like to see him banned in Serbia also.

Bill Nye

pre 10 godina

He failed to learn recent history: playing by the rules of the bad individuals calling the shots from international community will only temporarily get him praise and access. When he outlives his usefulness they will vilify him and his own people will turn on him. It happened to Slobo in Dayton, it will happen to him.

the real truth @truth

pre 10 godina

is that naive nato troops and other int workers act as human shields for cowardice islamo-fascists in KiM - without their presence Serbs would enter KiM as they wish and overbreeding islamists would be running back to Albania, Turkey or S-Arabia...or whatever place they came from...roger so far?

the truth

pre 10 godina

Vulin said that the request was sent on Friday, which means in time,

I would like to thank Vulin aka MIB , for admitting publicly that he has to submit e request for permission to enter Kosova.

the truth

pre 10 godina

Vulin said that the request was sent on Friday, which means in time,

I would like to thank Vulin aka MIB , for admitting publicly that he has to submit e request for permission to enter Kosova.

winston

pre 10 godina

This guy purely campaigns in Kosovo for Vucic's SNS party, Pantic is their candidate. That is forbidden, not only by Pristina, but by the international community. Vulin has no beef, he is not liked in Serbia either. In fact, many Serbs would like to see him banned in Serbia also.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

sj,

You are once again proved wrong.

Below is from an article by Serbian journalist Zorana Suhakovic:

"Just before the elections Pristina printed ballots with Kosovo state insignia which created additional disquiet among the Serbs. Brussels did not react to this fast enough and Hashim Thachi boasted that the participation of Serbs in the election was a clear sign that their goal of statehood has been reached."

p.s. If you had voted, you would have seen the state symbols of the Republic of Kosova printed on the ballots.

Haitan

pre 10 godina

Just like Albanians claimed that ballot papers would have Kosova’s symbols, your wrong again. In accord with agreement signed with the EU to keep matters neutral, all access to Kosovo is submitted to EULEX not the goat herders in Pristina.
Don’t you get tired of getting it wrong over and over again? Anyway I doubt Thaci or his so called ministers can read.
(sj, 19 November 2013 22:21)

You are wrong. You did not vote in election. I did. I live in Kosova. You do not. You think you are expert on Kosova. You have never been to Kosova. I saw ballot paper. You did not. Serbs in wild west cowboy land North Kosova saw ballot paper. They saw state symbol. You did not see state symbol of Kosova because you are in Australia not Kosova. If you want to see state symbol of Kosova in Australia, go to Kosova embassy in Canberra.

Good day.

sj

pre 10 godina

(the truth, 19 November 2013 16:17)

Just like Albanians claimed that ballot papers would have Kosova’s symbols, your wrong again. In accord with agreement signed with the EU to keep matters neutral, all access to Kosovo is submitted to EULEX not the goat herders in Pristina.
Don’t you get tired of getting it wrong over and over again? Anyway I doubt Thaci or his so called ministers can read.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

its not the job of the EU to bring industries to Kosova ! seriously sj, you work in finance? don't you know investments in most cases are private enterprises? honestly have you actually ever read a book? find waldo doesn't count. why doesn't open an office in Kosova? dear oh dear. why doesn't British Aerospace open an office in New Zealand if New Zealand is independent?!

Bill Nye

pre 10 godina

He failed to learn recent history: playing by the rules of the bad individuals calling the shots from international community will only temporarily get him praise and access. When he outlives his usefulness they will vilify him and his own people will turn on him. It happened to Slobo in Dayton, it will happen to him.

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 19 November 2013 22:21)
You are so funny trying to convince others you are the all knowing Wiz. I don't think anyone but yourself would be unable to see through the charade.
If you read the article or have someone read it to you, you will find it is the Serbs claiming it is Pristina making the ban not Albanians. It has been established by almost everyone except sj that the Serbs present their requests to EULEX or UNMIK which courier it over to the Kosovo govt and wait for a response and then courier it back to the Serbs.
As far as symbols on the ballots the Kosovo Election Commission seal was there which was a state symbol but the Serb elites portrayed it to the naïve Serbs that it was not and of course apparently you fall into that category.
However Vulin is losing credibility rapidly, who knows maybe some day it will be parallel with your own.

sj

pre 10 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 20 November 2013 00:34)

Brussels did react and recalled those ballot papers and they were destroyed. There nothing critical as even Belgrade did not react. It was a trick used by Thaci to “prove” to the simple Albanians that he is winning.
Yes there were “state symbols of the Republic of Kosova (a goat and donkey side by side) printed on the ballots” but they were for the Albanian areas mate. I saw the ballot papers.

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
So Pristina says symbols were on the ballots, Belgrade says symbols were on the ballots, Brussels says symbols were on the ballot no one who has voted has disputed that the symbol of the Kosovo Election Commission was on the ballots, but a Half Serb/Australian in Malaysia knows the truth that there was nothing on the ballots because some Serb was willing to corrupt the election process and send you a copy of the ballots, in other words there was no control over the Serb voting process.
I take my previous comment back Vulin has a long way to go to paralell your credibility.

the real truth @truth

pre 10 godina

is that naive nato troops and other int workers act as human shields for cowardice islamo-fascists in KiM - without their presence Serbs would enter KiM as they wish and overbreeding islamists would be running back to Albania, Turkey or S-Arabia...or whatever place they came from...roger so far?

Paul

pre 10 godina

This little drama is going to happen again and again until the real authorities in the "international community" are too embarrassed to dignify it any more and these Serbs will be able to come and go as they please.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 20 November 2013 03:22)

Lad you have been living in the US for far too long and you’ll believe anything they tell you. Sadly Americans have gone from being the smartest to one of the most backward people on earth.
First of all I have seen this game played many times before this Kosovo business. It is EULEX that monitors who are what comes into Kosovo not Pristina mate. When are you going to wake up to the fact that Albanians live off the EU otherwise they would starve to death. EULEX only passes on this information to Pristina as a matter of courtesy nothing else – if it was otherwise why doesn’t Pristina tell EULEX what to do?????
Vulin is playing a game – that’s all.
The symbol on the ballot papers was a picture of Kosovo in blue with stars in a semi circle – this is an EU designed symbol. I’ve had a picture sent to me of the ballot papers – it has no writing at all referring to an independent Kosovo. It never will mate.
Wake up 13 years your people have been living like dogs scavenging a living and you call it great. If the EU is hell bent on keeping Kosovo independent why don’t they bring industries to Kosovo????????? Surely the CEO of Microsoft could have gone to Pristina and talked about opening a facility there???????? No he went to Belgrade to discuss this issue.
How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility.

Haitian

pre 10 godina

(sj, 20 November 2013 22:35)

This image was used on all ballot papers in Kosova, even Serbs. It is symbol of Kosova Election Commission who answer to Republic of Kosova. Even colors used a same as Kosova flag and coat of arms.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Kosovan_elections_neitral_logo.svg

Kosova has embassy is Australia to provide diplomatic services to Kosovars in Australia and to be center of Kosova diplomacy in Pacific region as whole. There are not many Australian or Australian tourists in Kosova and Australia has lots of embassies in Europe therefor no need for Australian embassy in Kosova. Instead Australian ambassador in Vienna Austria is subordinated ambassador to Kosova.

Why not recognize Hitler? He did exist. It is fact. You deny Hitler exist? You deny Holocaust? With your hardline views it is not very suprising.

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
It is fun to see you try to squirm and prove something that does not exist. True every state in the US has its own flag but none of them claim for that flag to represent a sovereign nation, as a matter of fact the state flag must always fly lower than the US flag. The flag of Kosovo was developed with the approval of the EU to represent Kosovo after the declaration of independence. It was said in agreement that the only symbol on the ballots would be the seal of the Kosovo Election Commission and that would not be a state symbol to appease the Serbs but since according to you it was actually the recognized flag of the Republic of Kosovo on the ballots I guess state symbols were used.
Your point you attempted to make did not actually make it to reality.

Tammy

pre 10 godina

It’s such a shame that Serbian minister can’t visit his country or even foreign country in 21st century. Do we need permission to visit Serbs? I think Brussels must react.

Monaliza

pre 10 godina

As soon as the provisional institutions of Kosovo ban something to Vulin , I know that they have a problem and that they should turn their attention to the same problem. They need a unifier. For the provisional institutions of Kosovo this are Minister Vulin and Serbs and the Serbian State. The same recipe as in Croatia for problem of the Cyrillic alphabet .

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
what you describe to me sounds a lot like the official flag of Kosovo????
I don't think you can get a more state symbol than that. Anything that has a Serbian flag on it people identify with the state of Serbia, or anything with a Malaysian flag is identified with the state of Malaysia, am I wrong?

Haitian

pre 10 godina

(sj, 21 November 2013 21:39)

Your silly. You dont understand point of embassy.Serbia has embassy in Zambia. Is that for all Serbs who live in Zambia? How many Serbs in Zambia? 4? What services does Serbia Embassy in Zambia do? Kosova Embassy in Australia is bussier than Serbian Embassy in Zambia. Why Serbia have embassy in Zambia? No need.People in Zambia do not know there is a Serbia.

Kosova diplomacy in pacific is very successful. We have diplomatic relations with Australia Vanuatu Fiji Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru and New Zealand. We have recognition from East Timor Papua New Guinea Kiribati Samoa and Tuvalu. In future we have relation with them too! Kosova embassy in Australia is center for diplomacy all over Pacific.

Tourism in Kosova grow. Not in North Kosova. Very dangerous for tourists and non Serbs! There is lots to see and do in Kosova. Lots of History from colonial times of Ottomans and Serbs. Nice land scapes. You can go skiing in snow mountains. Prishtina and Prizren are very friendly citys for tourists Lots of museums and old buildings. They are party towns. We have lots of food and drink. Kosova is very cheap for tourists and everyone speak english. This why tourism increase every year. Also no visa for westeners.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"My first question to you is what do you do for a living? Because “you know investments in most cases are private enterprises” is straight out of a primary school book. You have very little understanding of how investment works. It is enticed to come to a country; why do you thing Presidents and Prime Ministers travel overseas and give dinners and speeches to business people????. "
(sj, 20 November 2013 22:48)

You just contradicted our B92 CE sj (TM icj1), with your words sj. In fact, it was him with his deep knowledge of how investments work that said exactly these words 12 hours earlier, implying the opposite of what you said 12 hours later:

"How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility."
(sj, 20 November 2013 10:21)

so it is your word against your word and, since you are the expert and we have to believe what you say, we have to contradict what you say.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Considering that each US state has its own flag with its own symbols, I see nothing wrong with what I have described earlier, an outline of Kosovo in blue with a semi circle of stars. The difference is that there is no mention of an independent Kosovo anywhere on those papers. That is my point.
(sj, 22 November 2013 10:15)

I fully agree (as always) with the CE of B92 forums here. The papers had to contain a disclaimer like "Be aware: by using this paper to vote you are committing high treason and recognizing Kosovo's independence and that is a sin that will be punished by the Almighty who sees everything, even inside the voting booth".

Since the ballot papers did not contain such a statement, sj is correct, as always.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 10 godina

Haitan, 20 November 2013 10:52)

Yes they had symbols on ballot papers where Albanians voted but not the serbs so what’s you point? I saw copies of ballot papers that were distributed in serb areas and NO SYMBOLS.
Australia would recognise Adolph Hitler if told by the US as we have idiots in politics at both State and federal level, but this is being eroded as China takes over. The Minister for Foreign affairs who you see at the opening is Bob Carr, truly befitting to be at that occasion as he is a crook who sold NSW assets to Macquarie bank then upon retirement spent 12 months in a palatial office in Bond Street, Sydney at an enormous salary. On that issue I have no idea why you would even have an embassy here as there are only 10000 Albanians in Australia, but as the EU pays for it who cares. But there is no Australian embassy or consulate in Pristina – tells you a lot.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikolle, 20 November 2013 12:40)

My first question to you is what do you do for a living? Because “you know investments in most cases are private enterprises” is straight out of a primary school book. You have very little understanding of how investment works. It is enticed to come to a country; why do you thing Presidents and Prime Ministers travel overseas and give dinners and speeches to business people????.
The EU pays for Kosovo and considering Kosovo has an official unemployment level of 45% (what a joke that is) but in actual fact is closer to 80% you would think that there are a few bright sparks in Brussels that would say why not entice investment to Kosovo and lessen our financial burden, especially since the OECD has downgrade world growth by a percentage point and have even stated that there is no end in sight to this world downturn.
Maybe I’m wrong and if so I’ll stop reading “Where is Wlado”.

sj

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(Haitian, 20 November 2013 23:42)
Considering there are only 10 000 Albanians in Australia and the number from Kosovo would number possibly less than 2000 what services would this embassy provide considering that 90% of your Kosovoars in Australia are on social security?
“.. Kosova diplomacy in Pacific region”
What that? People in the pacific don’t even know that there is a Kosovo.
Tourism? What do you Albanians have to show tourists? Drugs or organs for sale? Or perhaps you’re trying to pass off Serbian Churches and structures as your own because “they were originally Albanian stolen by Serbs? But then if you admit that they are Serbian the average tourist is going to ask if these are all Serbian where is your ancient buildings since you have been in Kosovo since the dawn of time???
On the issue of Hitler, I see that English is a second language to you and I’ll let it go.

sj

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(pss, 21 November 2013 05:06)

I know that the US is going backwards at a fast pace but have you heard of a new technology called skype and that you can take a picture with a cell phone. Now the ballot papers in Serb areas had no “republic of Kosovo” on it. Just like the polling booths they only had on them, now pay very close attention to this, a symbol of Kosovo with blue and a semi circle of stars on it – NO Kosova this or Kosova that - now do you get the picture?

sj

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(pss, 22 November 2013 05:25)

Considering that each US state has its own flag with its own symbols, I see nothing wrong with what I have described earlier, an outline of Kosovo in blue with a semi circle of stars. The difference is that there is no mention of an independent Kosovo anywhere on those papers. That is my point.

sj

pre 10 godina

You just contradicted our B92 CE sj (TM icj1), with your words sj. In fact, it was him with his deep knowledge of how investments work that said exactly these words 12 hours earlier, implying the opposite of what you said 12 hours later:

"How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility."
(sj, 20 November 2013 10:21)

so it is your word against your word and, since you are the expert and we have to believe what you say, we have to contradict what you say.
(Reader, 21 November 2013 21:32)

What ever you are on cut the dose.

sj

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(Haitian, 22 November 2013 13:44)

Serbia has interests in Zambia because it has people and firms working in that part of Africa so I can see a need for an embassy or consulate. How many Albanians work in Australia, Vanuatu, Fiji, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and New Zealand? or how many Albanian firms work there? I know that most Albanians from whether from Kosovo or Albania in Australia are on social security benefits so where you get BS about being busy is beyond me.
Tourism in Kosovo - what tourism? Do you think for a moment anyone with a brain cell would like to visit an unstable region with foreign troops to keep the peace????
Who in their right mind would camp anywhere in Kosovo considering that it is full of depleted uranium? Kosovo has the second highest cancer rate in the world with Iraq in first place.
Prishtina and Prizren..... Lots of museums and old buildings...party towns.”
Yes they are party towns especially when Albanians get drunk and start shooting in the air. I have been to those museums and there is nothing belonging to Albanians – its either Turkish or Serb. Those old buildings were built by Serb or Turks.
What mental asylum have you escaped from to write this rubbish?

icj1

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(sj, 21 November 2013 21:39)

Your silly. You dont understand point of embassy.Serbia has embassy in Zambia.
(Haitian, 22 November 2013 13:44)

Be careful there! Our dear sj has served for senior government officials so he/she knows much better than all of us combined what is the point of an Embassy

the real truth @truth

pre 10 godina

is that naive nato troops and other int workers act as human shields for cowardice islamo-fascists in KiM - without their presence Serbs would enter KiM as they wish and overbreeding islamists would be running back to Albania, Turkey or S-Arabia...or whatever place they came from...roger so far?

Tammy

pre 10 godina

It’s such a shame that Serbian minister can’t visit his country or even foreign country in 21st century. Do we need permission to visit Serbs? I think Brussels must react.

sj

pre 10 godina

(the truth, 19 November 2013 16:17)

Just like Albanians claimed that ballot papers would have Kosova’s symbols, your wrong again. In accord with agreement signed with the EU to keep matters neutral, all access to Kosovo is submitted to EULEX not the goat herders in Pristina.
Don’t you get tired of getting it wrong over and over again? Anyway I doubt Thaci or his so called ministers can read.

Paul

pre 10 godina

This little drama is going to happen again and again until the real authorities in the "international community" are too embarrassed to dignify it any more and these Serbs will be able to come and go as they please.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 20 November 2013 03:22)

Lad you have been living in the US for far too long and you’ll believe anything they tell you. Sadly Americans have gone from being the smartest to one of the most backward people on earth.
First of all I have seen this game played many times before this Kosovo business. It is EULEX that monitors who are what comes into Kosovo not Pristina mate. When are you going to wake up to the fact that Albanians live off the EU otherwise they would starve to death. EULEX only passes on this information to Pristina as a matter of courtesy nothing else – if it was otherwise why doesn’t Pristina tell EULEX what to do?????
Vulin is playing a game – that’s all.
The symbol on the ballot papers was a picture of Kosovo in blue with stars in a semi circle – this is an EU designed symbol. I’ve had a picture sent to me of the ballot papers – it has no writing at all referring to an independent Kosovo. It never will mate.
Wake up 13 years your people have been living like dogs scavenging a living and you call it great. If the EU is hell bent on keeping Kosovo independent why don’t they bring industries to Kosovo????????? Surely the CEO of Microsoft could have gone to Pristina and talked about opening a facility there???????? No he went to Belgrade to discuss this issue.
How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility.

the truth

pre 10 godina

Vulin said that the request was sent on Friday, which means in time,

I would like to thank Vulin aka MIB , for admitting publicly that he has to submit e request for permission to enter Kosova.

sj

pre 10 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 20 November 2013 00:34)

Brussels did react and recalled those ballot papers and they were destroyed. There nothing critical as even Belgrade did not react. It was a trick used by Thaci to “prove” to the simple Albanians that he is winning.
Yes there were “state symbols of the Republic of Kosova (a goat and donkey side by side) printed on the ballots” but they were for the Albanian areas mate. I saw the ballot papers.

sj

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Haitan, 20 November 2013 10:52)

Yes they had symbols on ballot papers where Albanians voted but not the serbs so what’s you point? I saw copies of ballot papers that were distributed in serb areas and NO SYMBOLS.
Australia would recognise Adolph Hitler if told by the US as we have idiots in politics at both State and federal level, but this is being eroded as China takes over. The Minister for Foreign affairs who you see at the opening is Bob Carr, truly befitting to be at that occasion as he is a crook who sold NSW assets to Macquarie bank then upon retirement spent 12 months in a palatial office in Bond Street, Sydney at an enormous salary. On that issue I have no idea why you would even have an embassy here as there are only 10000 Albanians in Australia, but as the EU pays for it who cares. But there is no Australian embassy or consulate in Pristina – tells you a lot.

The Count of Kosova

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sj,

You are once again proved wrong.

Below is from an article by Serbian journalist Zorana Suhakovic:

"Just before the elections Pristina printed ballots with Kosovo state insignia which created additional disquiet among the Serbs. Brussels did not react to this fast enough and Hashim Thachi boasted that the participation of Serbs in the election was a clear sign that their goal of statehood has been reached."

p.s. If you had voted, you would have seen the state symbols of the Republic of Kosova printed on the ballots.

sj

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(Nikolle, 20 November 2013 12:40)

My first question to you is what do you do for a living? Because “you know investments in most cases are private enterprises” is straight out of a primary school book. You have very little understanding of how investment works. It is enticed to come to a country; why do you thing Presidents and Prime Ministers travel overseas and give dinners and speeches to business people????.
The EU pays for Kosovo and considering Kosovo has an official unemployment level of 45% (what a joke that is) but in actual fact is closer to 80% you would think that there are a few bright sparks in Brussels that would say why not entice investment to Kosovo and lessen our financial burden, especially since the OECD has downgrade world growth by a percentage point and have even stated that there is no end in sight to this world downturn.
Maybe I’m wrong and if so I’ll stop reading “Where is Wlado”.

Bill Nye

pre 10 godina

He failed to learn recent history: playing by the rules of the bad individuals calling the shots from international community will only temporarily get him praise and access. When he outlives his usefulness they will vilify him and his own people will turn on him. It happened to Slobo in Dayton, it will happen to him.

pss

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(sj, 19 November 2013 22:21)
You are so funny trying to convince others you are the all knowing Wiz. I don't think anyone but yourself would be unable to see through the charade.
If you read the article or have someone read it to you, you will find it is the Serbs claiming it is Pristina making the ban not Albanians. It has been established by almost everyone except sj that the Serbs present their requests to EULEX or UNMIK which courier it over to the Kosovo govt and wait for a response and then courier it back to the Serbs.
As far as symbols on the ballots the Kosovo Election Commission seal was there which was a state symbol but the Serb elites portrayed it to the naïve Serbs that it was not and of course apparently you fall into that category.
However Vulin is losing credibility rapidly, who knows maybe some day it will be parallel with your own.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

its not the job of the EU to bring industries to Kosova ! seriously sj, you work in finance? don't you know investments in most cases are private enterprises? honestly have you actually ever read a book? find waldo doesn't count. why doesn't open an office in Kosova? dear oh dear. why doesn't British Aerospace open an office in New Zealand if New Zealand is independent?!

Haitan

pre 10 godina

Just like Albanians claimed that ballot papers would have Kosova’s symbols, your wrong again. In accord with agreement signed with the EU to keep matters neutral, all access to Kosovo is submitted to EULEX not the goat herders in Pristina.
Don’t you get tired of getting it wrong over and over again? Anyway I doubt Thaci or his so called ministers can read.
(sj, 19 November 2013 22:21)

You are wrong. You did not vote in election. I did. I live in Kosova. You do not. You think you are expert on Kosova. You have never been to Kosova. I saw ballot paper. You did not. Serbs in wild west cowboy land North Kosova saw ballot paper. They saw state symbol. You did not see state symbol of Kosova because you are in Australia not Kosova. If you want to see state symbol of Kosova in Australia, go to Kosova embassy in Canberra.

Good day.

Monaliza

pre 10 godina

As soon as the provisional institutions of Kosovo ban something to Vulin , I know that they have a problem and that they should turn their attention to the same problem. They need a unifier. For the provisional institutions of Kosovo this are Minister Vulin and Serbs and the Serbian State. The same recipe as in Croatia for problem of the Cyrillic alphabet .

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 21 November 2013 05:06)

I know that the US is going backwards at a fast pace but have you heard of a new technology called skype and that you can take a picture with a cell phone. Now the ballot papers in Serb areas had no “republic of Kosovo” on it. Just like the polling booths they only had on them, now pay very close attention to this, a symbol of Kosovo with blue and a semi circle of stars on it – NO Kosova this or Kosova that - now do you get the picture?

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 22 November 2013 05:25)

Considering that each US state has its own flag with its own symbols, I see nothing wrong with what I have described earlier, an outline of Kosovo in blue with a semi circle of stars. The difference is that there is no mention of an independent Kosovo anywhere on those papers. That is my point.

sj

pre 10 godina

You just contradicted our B92 CE sj (TM icj1), with your words sj. In fact, it was him with his deep knowledge of how investments work that said exactly these words 12 hours earlier, implying the opposite of what you said 12 hours later:

"How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility."
(sj, 20 November 2013 10:21)

so it is your word against your word and, since you are the expert and we have to believe what you say, we have to contradict what you say.
(Reader, 21 November 2013 21:32)

What ever you are on cut the dose.

winston

pre 10 godina

This guy purely campaigns in Kosovo for Vucic's SNS party, Pantic is their candidate. That is forbidden, not only by Pristina, but by the international community. Vulin has no beef, he is not liked in Serbia either. In fact, many Serbs would like to see him banned in Serbia also.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Haitian, 20 November 2013 23:42)
Considering there are only 10 000 Albanians in Australia and the number from Kosovo would number possibly less than 2000 what services would this embassy provide considering that 90% of your Kosovoars in Australia are on social security?
“.. Kosova diplomacy in Pacific region”
What that? People in the pacific don’t even know that there is a Kosovo.
Tourism? What do you Albanians have to show tourists? Drugs or organs for sale? Or perhaps you’re trying to pass off Serbian Churches and structures as your own because “they were originally Albanian stolen by Serbs? But then if you admit that they are Serbian the average tourist is going to ask if these are all Serbian where is your ancient buildings since you have been in Kosovo since the dawn of time???
On the issue of Hitler, I see that English is a second language to you and I’ll let it go.

Haitian

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(sj, 20 November 2013 22:35)

This image was used on all ballot papers in Kosova, even Serbs. It is symbol of Kosova Election Commission who answer to Republic of Kosova. Even colors used a same as Kosova flag and coat of arms.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Kosovan_elections_neitral_logo.svg

Kosova has embassy is Australia to provide diplomatic services to Kosovars in Australia and to be center of Kosova diplomacy in Pacific region as whole. There are not many Australian or Australian tourists in Kosova and Australia has lots of embassies in Europe therefor no need for Australian embassy in Kosova. Instead Australian ambassador in Vienna Austria is subordinated ambassador to Kosova.

Why not recognize Hitler? He did exist. It is fact. You deny Hitler exist? You deny Holocaust? With your hardline views it is not very suprising.

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
what you describe to me sounds a lot like the official flag of Kosovo????
I don't think you can get a more state symbol than that. Anything that has a Serbian flag on it people identify with the state of Serbia, or anything with a Malaysian flag is identified with the state of Malaysia, am I wrong?

Haitian

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(sj, 21 November 2013 21:39)

Your silly. You dont understand point of embassy.Serbia has embassy in Zambia. Is that for all Serbs who live in Zambia? How many Serbs in Zambia? 4? What services does Serbia Embassy in Zambia do? Kosova Embassy in Australia is bussier than Serbian Embassy in Zambia. Why Serbia have embassy in Zambia? No need.People in Zambia do not know there is a Serbia.

Kosova diplomacy in pacific is very successful. We have diplomatic relations with Australia Vanuatu Fiji Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru and New Zealand. We have recognition from East Timor Papua New Guinea Kiribati Samoa and Tuvalu. In future we have relation with them too! Kosova embassy in Australia is center for diplomacy all over Pacific.

Tourism in Kosova grow. Not in North Kosova. Very dangerous for tourists and non Serbs! There is lots to see and do in Kosova. Lots of History from colonial times of Ottomans and Serbs. Nice land scapes. You can go skiing in snow mountains. Prishtina and Prizren are very friendly citys for tourists Lots of museums and old buildings. They are party towns. We have lots of food and drink. Kosova is very cheap for tourists and everyone speak english. This why tourism increase every year. Also no visa for westeners.

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
It is fun to see you try to squirm and prove something that does not exist. True every state in the US has its own flag but none of them claim for that flag to represent a sovereign nation, as a matter of fact the state flag must always fly lower than the US flag. The flag of Kosovo was developed with the approval of the EU to represent Kosovo after the declaration of independence. It was said in agreement that the only symbol on the ballots would be the seal of the Kosovo Election Commission and that would not be a state symbol to appease the Serbs but since according to you it was actually the recognized flag of the Republic of Kosovo on the ballots I guess state symbols were used.
Your point you attempted to make did not actually make it to reality.

sj

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(Haitian, 22 November 2013 13:44)

Serbia has interests in Zambia because it has people and firms working in that part of Africa so I can see a need for an embassy or consulate. How many Albanians work in Australia, Vanuatu, Fiji, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and New Zealand? or how many Albanian firms work there? I know that most Albanians from whether from Kosovo or Albania in Australia are on social security benefits so where you get BS about being busy is beyond me.
Tourism in Kosovo - what tourism? Do you think for a moment anyone with a brain cell would like to visit an unstable region with foreign troops to keep the peace????
Who in their right mind would camp anywhere in Kosovo considering that it is full of depleted uranium? Kosovo has the second highest cancer rate in the world with Iraq in first place.
Prishtina and Prizren..... Lots of museums and old buildings...party towns.”
Yes they are party towns especially when Albanians get drunk and start shooting in the air. I have been to those museums and there is nothing belonging to Albanians – its either Turkish or Serb. Those old buildings were built by Serb or Turks.
What mental asylum have you escaped from to write this rubbish?

pss

pre 10 godina

sj,
So Pristina says symbols were on the ballots, Belgrade says symbols were on the ballots, Brussels says symbols were on the ballot no one who has voted has disputed that the symbol of the Kosovo Election Commission was on the ballots, but a Half Serb/Australian in Malaysia knows the truth that there was nothing on the ballots because some Serb was willing to corrupt the election process and send you a copy of the ballots, in other words there was no control over the Serb voting process.
I take my previous comment back Vulin has a long way to go to paralell your credibility.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"My first question to you is what do you do for a living? Because “you know investments in most cases are private enterprises” is straight out of a primary school book. You have very little understanding of how investment works. It is enticed to come to a country; why do you thing Presidents and Prime Ministers travel overseas and give dinners and speeches to business people????. "
(sj, 20 November 2013 22:48)

You just contradicted our B92 CE sj (TM icj1), with your words sj. In fact, it was him with his deep knowledge of how investments work that said exactly these words 12 hours earlier, implying the opposite of what you said 12 hours later:

"How many CEOs from the United Sates of Piss and Wind have gone to Kosovo for this purpose??? NOT F******* ONE!!!!!! And you talk about credibility."
(sj, 20 November 2013 10:21)

so it is your word against your word and, since you are the expert and we have to believe what you say, we have to contradict what you say.

icj1

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(sj, 21 November 2013 21:39)

Your silly. You dont understand point of embassy.Serbia has embassy in Zambia.
(Haitian, 22 November 2013 13:44)

Be careful there! Our dear sj has served for senior government officials so he/she knows much better than all of us combined what is the point of an Embassy

icj1

pre 10 godina

Considering that each US state has its own flag with its own symbols, I see nothing wrong with what I have described earlier, an outline of Kosovo in blue with a semi circle of stars. The difference is that there is no mention of an independent Kosovo anywhere on those papers. That is my point.
(sj, 22 November 2013 10:15)

I fully agree (as always) with the CE of B92 forums here. The papers had to contain a disclaimer like "Be aware: by using this paper to vote you are committing high treason and recognizing Kosovo's independence and that is a sin that will be punished by the Almighty who sees everything, even inside the voting booth".

Since the ballot papers did not contain such a statement, sj is correct, as always.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist