Monday, 11.11.2013.
10:35
Maurizio Salustro, an EULEX international prosecutor, raised an indictment against 15 former members of a former paramilitary unit of ethnic Albanians.
Izvor: Tanjug
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Peggy, what threat did Yugoslavia ever pose to the Americans? None. Thing with people who believe in this nonsense, is that you can't believe that without also believing that Sloba was CIA, Mladic was CIA, Karadzic was CIA, Tujman was CIA, Thaci was CIA etc etc. once a conspiracy starts, you can take it anywhere.
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Nikolle, 14 November 2013 12:47)
Robert Baer was a CIA operative and he has gone on lecture tours talking about Kosovo and Bosnia. He has written books on this subject. He was an agent prior to the war in Bosnia who took an active part there to bring about that mess. He has repeated many times the facts surrounding Kosovo and Srebrenica and the CIA’s involvement in the breakup of Yugo and yet these thick heads refuse to acknowledge even when proof is served up on a platter.
Normal people stop digging when they are about to bury themselves, but not the Albanians.
(sj, 15 November 2013 01:49)
sj,
Do you believe everything you read or just the material that supports your bizarre and twisted beliefs.
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oh believe me sj, I love conspiracies. CIA broke up Yugoslavia? I wonder, do they also have a hand in the Scottish referendum, or was it only Yugoslava that was worth the experiment? did they break up Czechoslovakia as well? yeah, blame the Yanks, thats really easy. horrible weather today, the CIA must have a hand in that as well
(Nikolle, 15 November 2013 10:33)
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If you are really that naive to believe that the US doesn't go around deposing legitimate governments in order to suit their needs then you are really not worth debating any of these issues.
Maybe you should take a look at what happened in South America. Try watching a John Pilger documentary on the very subject. It's a real eye opener. Documentary is called "War on Democracy".
Something tells me you know all about American efforts to remove governments they don't like and put their own puppets in but will not admit that, ever.
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What happened to the courageous "Road Blocks"??? LOL
I'm baaaccccckkkkk!!!
(Captain America, 15 November 2013 15:59)
I hear that the Al-Banian Testerashi stole all their road blocking lumber so they can heat themselves this winter.
If you see one of them with an AK 47 and a chainsaw, please alert the local Serbs.
P.S. Beware of any Albanians that possess an AK 47 and a chainsaw simultaneously, or any other equipment that can be used for the removal of human body parts and human organs--like straight razors, scalpels, scalpel blades, too many freezers or unusually bright lights over their kitchen tables.
Welcome back fraud, and quit associating yourself and blogging under the "US umbrella"--you and that KOSOVO-USA. If the two of you are, in fact, US citizens, and you choose to make that public, you have a duty to your fellow American citizens to speak for the democratic ideals upon which our nation was founded, and not for the selfish, narrow interests of internationally recognized terrorists, volume drug dealers, human traffickers and alleged human organ harvesters--aka KLA.
To be a US citizen is to carry a credential that is currently unparalleled in all the world. Think, THINK, before you speak.
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Nikolle, the US didnt do anything during the 80´s because they were preoccupied with the cold war conflict and Tito didnt die until 1980. By the way why is it so strange to you that the USA wanted to break up SFRJ?It wouldnt be the first time now would it?They created chaos in Nicaragua, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, VIETNAM, Cuba and countless of countries.
USA is not only evil but the biggest satan on earth, they would kill Everything and anyone to enrich themselves. Divide and conquer, the famous CIA policy that applies to Everything the US does when it comes to foreign politics. Just look at Iraq, nother example of the american version of "democracy".
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What happened to the courageous "Road Blocks"??? LOL
I'm baaaccccckkkkk!!!
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Sj this former CIA agent must be put under a lie detetor and all his allegation investigated by an unbiased UNSC authorized and funded TRUTH COMMITTEE.
When it is determined what he claims is not 100 truth he needs to be penalized financialy and with his freedom.
The true perpertators must confess and pay their debt to all the vicitims.
To allege that Srebrenica was "exaggerated" is insane.
How can anyone exaggerate thousands of dead bodies??????
All those corpses were recovered and pain stakingly indentified by DNA matches and yet that solid physical evidence does not convice to sj?
What about thousands of Bosnian and Kosovar rape victims?
Exaggerations you say??
Go tell that to the vicitms and see what happens.............
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oh believe me sj, I love conspiracies. CIA broke up Yugoslavia? I wonder, do they also have a hand in the Scottish referendum, or was it only Yugoslava that was worth the experiment? did they break up Czechoslovakia as well? yeah, blame the Yanks, thats really easy. horrible weather today, the CIA must have a hand in that as well
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(Nikolle, 14 November 2013 12:47)
Robert Baer was a CIA operative and he has gone on lecture tours talking about Kosovo and Bosnia. He has written books on this subject. He was an agent prior to the war in Bosnia who took an active part there to bring about that mess. He has repeated many times the facts surrounding Kosovo and Srebrenica and the CIA’s involvement in the breakup of Yugo and yet these thick heads refuse to acknowledge even when proof is served up on a platter.
Normal people stop digging when they are about to bury themselves, but not the Albanians.
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Only a Serb cause an incident and refuse to accept responsibility of the consequences.
'Why think of the repercussions when you can simply blame the victim'-Serb mentality.
Their failed way of think is "if I repeat this enough times it must somehow be true" ex.
For years Serbs spend millions on propaganda "KOSOVO IS SERBIA" nonsense.
Then Serbs finaly realized people can only be fooled so many times before their is a conflict with reality.
Serbia's PM Dacic enough confessed that Serbs were living a lie Kosova never belonged to Slav Serbs because Serbs never ORIGINATED FROM SERBIA.
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I am aware of all those theories Daneil, the Yugoslavs were never to blame, only the evil US. I've always wondered however, why break it up in the early to mid 90's? why not in 1986? 1954? 1964? people who believe in this CIA broke up Yugoslavia nonsense, need to pick a book or two. Ultimately Yugoslavs broke up Yugoslavia. America had nothing to do with it. Its not the fault of Yanks that Serbs elected Sloba and Croats Tujman
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let me get this straight, Thaci, at the behest of the US gov. murdered civilians? Thaci was/is CIA is what you're telling me?
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When asked what was the reason to break up Yugoslavia and why would the U.S. want to have its role in the whole situation, Baer replied that the reason is obvious, as the people who quietly initiated the war and loudly shouted about the peace are now owners of the companies that exploit variety of mineral resources and the like in the countries of former Yugoslavia. He said that they simply had created slaves through the war, because now people are working almost for free and the products are going to Germany and the U.S., so they earn a lot.
When asked about Kosovo and the involvement of the U.S. government, Baer said that Kosovo had been taken for two reasons, first because of mineral and natural resources, and the second reason was NATO military base in Kosovo – the largest military base in the very heart of Europe.
Baer had a message for the people of the former Yugoslavia – he said that they should forget their recent past as it was staged and faked. He said all nations of the former Yugoslavia had been manipulated and those behind the war got what they wanted. It would be stupid for the people to still hate each other, he said. He added that people should now be stronger and show that they are aware of what had happened and who had been responsible.
Baer apologised and said that exposure of the secrets of the CIA and the White House was his way to say “Sorry”.
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But it is Albanian gangs – known as the Mafia Shqiptare – that are causing particular concern.
The gangs are said to have been brutalised by the conflicts in the Balkans in the 1990s and sit on worldwide trade routes for guns, drugs and women.
The Mafia Shqiptare are believed to have taken over the sex trade in London’s Soho district and even reduced the power of the feared Italian Mafia in their own areas.
Stephen Whitelock, a Detective Chief Superintendent with the SCDEA, said: “We are noting the emergence of a number of crime groups from other countries operating in Scotland.
“This includes gangs from eastern Europe, southeast Asia – particularly Vietnam and China – as well as African countries.
“The Albanians are here now. Some of the individuals concerned are known to be capable of extreme violence.
Prostitution
“Albanian serious and organised crime groups have been know to be involved in prostitution, arms and drugs. They have been flagged up in our mapping exercise.”
He added: “We have a list of the top 20% most serious organised crime groups and, each of which is in the ownership of one of the forces or the agency. The Albanians are on that list.”
It is thought Albanian crime families arrived in the UK in the aftermath of the 1999 Kosovo war. The families are relatively small but strongly bonded by a code of honour and blood feuds.
KLA "freedom fighters"
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(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 23:57)
My sources are watertight - try Robert Baer, former CIA operative and now well know author on these subjects. Baer spoke at the Gaelic Club in Sydney on this issue and friends who were there were gobsmacked to say the least what he said about how the war in Kosovo came about. He also talked about Srebrenica which he said was “an exaggerated story” and a few weeks before the fall of that town his boss said “a big CON was about to take place”. He has been interviewed on this subject but funny how the western free press never printed these interviews. Hmmmmm, I wonder why?
If Albanians committed the crimes YES they should be imprisoned. So far it’s only the Serbs while Croats, Albanians and Bosniaks walk in a revolving door; arrested and released the same day. How many Croats were imprisoned for the murder of Bosniaks in central Bosnia during their little war????? NO ONE.
“..... Brits were charged for war crimes in WW2? Its not fair that only Nazis were tried....”
Careful now your beginning to sound like a Serb.
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I'm not surprised that things go above your head Daniel (its happened before). there is no doubt that Albanian criminals exist, there is no doubt that the Albanian mafia exists. this though is hardly an Albanian phenomena, there is a Serbian mafia, Italian mafia, Yakuza, a Jewish mafia etc etc. to deal with these individuals, is down to states in cooperation with each other. however, you're confusing two separate issues, the Hague Tribunal was set up with the specific purpose of dealing with Yugoslavia, its not the fault of judges that the heavenly people committed more war crimes, produced more war criminals (hence they are closest to Nazis in terms of numbers, so the comparison stands). deny it all you like, its in statistics, its what university students will learn
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Now replace Nazi with Serb and you'll see where I'm getting at
(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 23:57)
Serbs didnt murder millions of innnocent people at concentration camps now did they? Serbs were one of the biggest victims of the German and Croat nazi and fasist policy so your comparison isn´t really relevent to say the least. Last but not least Serbs didnt form their own SS division unlike the albanians that formed SS Skanderbeg.
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The US requested of Thaci that he murder hundreds of civilians? My your sources must be watertight!
Would Albanians in Hague prison cells legitimise the court? How many Brits were charged for war crimes in WW2? Its not fair that only Nazis were tried. Sure, they started the war, committed terrible crimes, killed innocents and all that, but its not fair to only blame only them. Now replace Nazi with Serb and you'll see where I'm getting at
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(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 10:46)
More likely you have run out of ideas as it seems even evidence that Albos committed terrible crimes can’t stop you from posting nonsense.
Are these same student clearly seeing that Thaci murdered hundreds at the request of the US in the 1990s???
Hey the Nazis were your allies not ours mate.
Now how many Albos are in the Hague again considering what Blair had said about Albanians? Be honest.
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cue the conspiracies sj. rather then me going round and round and round and round again, i will leave you with this, there are students in universities today, studying law, politics, war etc and who can clearly see, that the serbs gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. so sunshine, future generations learn those things about the heavenly people, not about simple Albanians. but don't worry, it has nothing to do with you, you're an Aussie
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You remind me of that line in Shawshank Redemption sj, "we're all innocent in prison". The Hague Tribunal was approved by the UNSC, including your beloved mother Russia.
(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 09:19)
Being an Albanian whose people tend to populate European prisons I’ll take your word for all being innocent. The UNSC did set it up and Russia did approve as it had no choice – its either Yeltsin does as he was told or no money and Russia goes to hell. Not anymore. Now even the United States of Piss and Wind is negotiating with Iran because it does not have the ability to use force.
On that same issue Tony Blair said “that the KLA was not much better than the Serbs”. Now how many Albos are in the Hague again considering Blair said that?
Both Blair and Geroge Robinson were ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You remind me of that line in Shawshank Redemption sj, "we're all innocent in prison". The Hague Tribunal was approved by the UNSC, including your beloved mother Russia.
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(Nikolle, 12 November 2013 15:02)
It does not take too much for Albanian ignorance to rise to the surface. You see that so called court in the Hague was set up by a gentleman called Sir Ninian Stephens, a former Australian High Court judge and Governor General of Australia. It was supposed to be part of an International Criminal Court.
Actually several other young Australians were involved as well. After 12 months Sir Ninian realised that he was setting up a kangaroo court (no pun intended here) where justice had little to do with it but simply putting people in prison that the US did not like, he then resigned. The last of the Australians was of Asian descent and he lasted another 8 months after Sir Ninian left. This guy now even refuses to put on his CV that he spent time in The Hague. He calls it a career break.
This great man now refers to Vojslav Seslj as a travesty of justice which will stain the west for decades to come.
Lord Robinson is on record as making that statement and the fact that the US had you Thaci and KLA as terrorist only confirms it – join the dots mate.
William Walker was a CIA operative that was even mentioned by Robert Baer, I’m sure you have heard of that former CIA agent, and he was there to “find” a reason to attack Serbia.
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@ sj,
your side? you're an Aussie, you had nothing to do with anything! why you're going through an identity crisis I have no idea.
p.s. i read that nensense comment of yours and point you to Hague prison cells. full of serbian heroes isn't it?
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Sick people here who try to justify severing a human head from a body.
Sabit Geci should be treated like a rabid animal. Unlike his forefathers who used sabers, he prefers to use a modern method - a chain saw - to sever a human head.
He has a long criminal record including killing his own kind.
http://www.trial-ch.org/en/resources/trial-watch/trial-watch/profiles/profile/917/action/show/controller/Profile.html
Fools ... who comment here and defend sociopathic behavior.
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Azir, stop trolling on this site. It's bad enough you jerk off to UCK symbols. It's an insult to human intelligence that you keep trying to divert attention away from the topic at hand excuse the crimes your people committed with stuff that has no relevance. Your comment was probably censored because you wrote something stupid. B92 was doing you a favor. Thanks however for admitting that B92 is censoring your comments. Considering the garbage you post that makes it, I can only imagine what doesn't. It has nothing to do with hiding the truth. You have no idea what the truth is.
Hang these KLA thugs from a street light and put their families under house arrest. Fire tear gas at anyone that protests and tries to take their bodies down.
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Can anyone please tell me how many Jews were charged with War Crimes during World War 2?
And that's how many Kosovars need to be charged.........ZERO
The aggressor (Serbs) attacked in Kosova and not the other way around.
Only one Jashari alledgely retaliated.
Serbs committed an ATROCITY by using heavy military arms (tanks,what not)
On the JASHARI compound in Drenice,Kosova.
Massacreing dozens of women,children and elderly..
Kosovar victims have every right to defend their women,parents,children,property and livestock (if any) from anyone.
Any complaints (even 14 years later) bring you allegation(s) and solid evidence to an internationally recognized court (The Hague) and let your voice be heard.
In the mean time we still have atleast 15,000 murder cases with the perpatrators still to face justice.
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, if you can name me one KLA crime that measures up to anything the heavenly people did, (I insist that you can't), I will come up with 3 Serbian ones. its a challenge that I raise to you
(Nikolle, 12 November 2013 12:20)
Read my comments by Lord Robinson- he was your side not ours. Perhaps you may recall the 40 Albanian villagers found by the CIA operative William Walker supposedly killed by Serb military; well it was the KLA in cooperation with the CIA. The saddest part is your side killed more of your people than anyone else and you still can’t admit it. In that case hope Thaci doubles his efforts.
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it looks like B92 has yet again takes to censoring my comment. don't know why, there's nothing derogatory in it. i will try again.
Daniel, if you can name me one KLA crime that measures up to anything the heavenly people did, (I insist that you can't), I will come up with 3 Serbian ones. its a challenge that I raise to you
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@ daniel and @ peggy
I don't even know why I'm bothering with you two dimwits, but in case you haven't noticed (and can't read your own language), the last time I checked, e-novine is a Serbian site too, no?
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In early 1999, UK’s Defence Minister Lord George Robinson said “the KLA and other armed Albanian groups were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo that the Yugoslav (Serb) Army had been”.
I don’t think any more comment is required here.
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What about this Serbs?
Svedočenje: Očevidac monstruoznosti srpskih snaga na Kosovu
Pravili su lampe od albanskih lobanja
[link]
(Avni, 11 November 2013 20:29
Thank you for the link Avni I really enjoyed reading that :)
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Nikolle of course no one wants to step forward and whitness against Haradinaj and the rest of your murderers and slaughters because they know that they will get killed. If everyone that knows something about albanian atrocities would witnes believe me your list of criminals would be waaaaaaaaaaaay longer than ours.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/world/europe/death-of-war-crimes-witness-casts-cloud-on-kosovo.html?_r=0
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you know what, not a single shred of evidence exists to paint the KLA with the same brush as the Serbian army. we have Racak, Prekaz, the expulsion of a million people as well as bodies of dead Albanians found in Serbia proper, the confession of Vlastimir Đorđević and last but not least, the current incarceration of Serbian war criminals in the Hague. not one person here can name me a KLA war crime that is on a par with any of them. however bad Albanians may well be, we're a long way behind on the war criminals list compared to the heavenly people
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"You guys make me sick trying to blame others for your own bad doings all over former Yugoslavia. Pathetic."
(Mendo, 11 November 2013 21:10)
And you make me sick defending murders, killers, war criminals and ordinary mafia bosses, just because they are Albanians. And no, even 'freedom fighters' are not above the law and the UN statutes of how to treat prisoners of war.
I think the Kosovo society and political scene would make a great step in the right direction if all those shady persons would disappear and being replaced by honorable persons with some knowledge and merits. IAnd this includes your current 'prime minister', a person who could even be found on the CIA list of international criminals in former times.
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B92 your censoreship of my replies will not get you or your people no where any time soon.
One allegation of a Serb Policman being allegedly killed by an Albanian will never equate the systematic murder of 12,000 and kidnapped 3,000 eventualy murdered Kosovars according to Belgrade's Human Rights Director Kandic.
Did you forget how many mass graves uncovered in Serbia?
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"Sami Lushtaku can not be regarded as a freedom fighter!!! As well as killing Albanians Sami is accused for rapping woman and girls. Lack of witnesses and evidence does not mean he did not do it!! HE is a criminal at first hand. I know the man at personal level."
Did he rape you or any one you knew? Or are you a witness to his crimes? If so then your life is in danger. In the run-up to Haradinaj's trial 19 witnesses or their family members were killed.
Many of the victims in these detention centers were Albanians whom they thought didn't support the KLA enough or were paranoid about.
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'The man fell to his knees and Sami shot him twice more in the head, the protected witness told the prosecution, adding that Lustaku allegedly killed the ethnic Albanian because "the man killed his cousin".'
Killed his cousin? Looking at the vast population growth of Albanians from 1948 to 1991, I'd be surprised if they weren't all cousins.
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Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
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If you're not getting the news here, you are more than welcome to go to an Albanian new site and get the "truth".
You can also comment and spew as much venom as you like against the Serbs there and nobody will challenge you.
Now tell us, how many articles have you read on Albanian sites condemning what the KLA have done to the Serbs?
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Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
Newsflash, you do know that this is a serb site do you?Do you expect a serb site to lie and portray you as victims and serbs as perpetrators?
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It's interesting that the B92 editorial team have deliberately chosen not to publish any of the accounts given by Slobodan Stojanovic (former commander in the Serbian army during the war in Kosova) to the e-novine website about the outrageous and gruesome atrocities committed by vicious Serbian criminals against Albanian civilians (especially young women who were raped in the presence of their parents or members of their extended families). Please see the link below for more information, in case you’ve missed it: [link]
Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
Since when are terrorists, murderers, drugdealers and organsnatchers freedom fighters?You do know that the KLA was labeled as a terrorist organization right?Islamic fanatics that behead people with chainsaws and pinch genitalies with iron forks. I must say that you have really great "freedom fighters".
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so a guy who gets his head removed w a chainsaw does not qualify as a real victim? I can only hope azir someone you know suffered as much only to be described as dirt. its like calling a rape victim as deserving of the crime? are you insane? nope..you are simply albanian..
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@Balkan Anthropologist, Questioner and PEN,
You guys have nothing to say about the proof one of your kind is giving to the e-novine? I mean using skulls like a lamp that's sickening? I believe those indictments are politically motivated, I mean for gods name we defended our people/homes we did not come to Serbia to fight. You guys make me sick trying to blame others for your own bad doings all over former Yugoslavia. Pathetic.
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Azir, you have just lost any credibility that that you thought you might have had with your latest outrageous post. In the beginning of your response your refer to 12,000 murders and later in the same response you put the number of those murdered at 15,000. In another 5 minutes will the number grow to 20,000? I realize that double digit numbers and higher are difficult for your simple mind to comprehend, but please quit embarrassing yourself. On second thought, keep it up. The entertainment value is priceless. LOL
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What about this Serbs?
Svedočenje: Očevidac monstruoznosti srpskih snaga na Kosovu
Pravili su lampe od albanskih lobanja
http://www.e-novine.com/srbija/srbija-tema/93521-Pravili-lampe-albanskih-lobanja.html
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Sami Lushtaku can not be regarded as a freedom fighter!!! As well as killing Albanians Sami is accused for rapping woman and girls. Lack of witnesses and evidence does not mean he did not do it!! HE is a criminal at first hand. I know the man at personal level.
About the others I do not know them as well !!!
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The truth is seeping out the seams of a container made of lies.
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@azir;
'We will once again come out clean.'
Cleanliness has nothing to do with it. Liquidating anybody who dares testify against the brutality of the KLA is what it's all about. And if you were honest with yourself, you'd readily admit that. But unfortunately like most Albanians, you have a misplaced sense of loyalty towards the psychopaths amongst your own kind. There are those among the Serbs on the other hand who realise crimes were done in their name. As a result many have been prosecuted. You, like your Croat allies, refuse to accept evil was committed in your name and thus punish war criminals. That is a reflection of your own weakness and lingering sense of inferiority. You will never be free of the stain of war crimes until you address this issue.
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Oh, finally, an indictment. How many witnesses who could testify against these alleged war criminals will be intimidated or silenced (the one or the other way) this time?
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@ adrian.
Ya nice freedom fighters who cut peoples' organs out while they are alive. There are a few thousand of those freedom fighters right now in Syria fighting on the side with islamic jihad fanatics.
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Came here just to see if there's any Albanian keyboard warrior out to defend these monsters with idiotic excuses of self-defense and over the top chest beating patriotism.
Because decapitating someone with a chainsaw is self-defense. And all of this is an orchestrated smear campaign against the Albanian people who have never in their 35,000 year history ever committed one single atrocity against anyone.
Thank you azir for stepping into that predicted stereotype. The Dimwitted Diaspora of Dardania never ceases to deliver the laughs.
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may you all rot in hell
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Kosova's Freedom Fighters will never be intimidated with false allegations and politicaly tainted charges.
That Dick from Switzerland ,the former Senator or what ever,must back up everthing he claims.
Evidence in court is need and Serbs wishfull thinking is not enough.
Instead of looking to get justice for the murdered 12,000 and the 3,000 kidnapped we are wasting time on allegations..............
Even if somehow the victoims (internationaly recognized Kosovars) might have succeeded in defending themselves in isolated incidents overall the Serbs are the main aggressors with the Hague testifing by numerous Serb indictment and convictions.
Actualy our Freedom Fighters were allies of NATO ,EU and USA defending agaisnt Serb Orthodox Terrorism.
The International Court of Justice even validated our heroic struggle.
Charging vicitms with self defense "crimes" is in human.
Just like placing an arms embargo on Genocide Bosnian victims when Serb aggrssors were armed to the teeth for 100 years of armed aggression.
Miss use of the court system to appeas politicly Serb international recognized aggrssrs.
We will once again come out clean.
Now solve the 15,000 murder cases in Kosova.
Serbia's Human Rights Director Kandic can help BRING REAL JUSTICE TO THE REAL VICTIMS.
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It's interesting that the B92 editorial team have deliberately chosen not to publish any of the accounts given by Slobodan Stojanovic (former commander in the Serbian army during the war in Kosova) to the e-novine website about the outrageous and gruesome atrocities committed by vicious Serbian criminals against Albanian civilians (especially young women who were raped in the presence of their parents or members of their extended families). Please see the link below for more information, in case you’ve missed it: http://www.e-novine.com/srbija/srbija-tema/93521-Pravili-lampe-albanskih-lobanja.html
Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
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What's the point? They will be released for "lack of evidence" and I'm sure the protected witness will soon go missing or mysteriously die. We all know how this works.
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It's not a crime, it's traditional! These charges are obviously racist and anti-albanian.
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What's the point? They will be released for "lack of evidence" and I'm sure the protected witness will soon go missing or mysteriously die. We all know how this works.
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@azir;
'We will once again come out clean.'
Cleanliness has nothing to do with it. Liquidating anybody who dares testify against the brutality of the KLA is what it's all about. And if you were honest with yourself, you'd readily admit that. But unfortunately like most Albanians, you have a misplaced sense of loyalty towards the psychopaths amongst your own kind. There are those among the Serbs on the other hand who realise crimes were done in their name. As a result many have been prosecuted. You, like your Croat allies, refuse to accept evil was committed in your name and thus punish war criminals. That is a reflection of your own weakness and lingering sense of inferiority. You will never be free of the stain of war crimes until you address this issue.
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Came here just to see if there's any Albanian keyboard warrior out to defend these monsters with idiotic excuses of self-defense and over the top chest beating patriotism.
Because decapitating someone with a chainsaw is self-defense. And all of this is an orchestrated smear campaign against the Albanian people who have never in their 35,000 year history ever committed one single atrocity against anyone.
Thank you azir for stepping into that predicted stereotype. The Dimwitted Diaspora of Dardania never ceases to deliver the laughs.
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may you all rot in hell
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Oh, finally, an indictment. How many witnesses who could testify against these alleged war criminals will be intimidated or silenced (the one or the other way) this time?
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It's interesting that the B92 editorial team have deliberately chosen not to publish any of the accounts given by Slobodan Stojanovic (former commander in the Serbian army during the war in Kosova) to the e-novine website about the outrageous and gruesome atrocities committed by vicious Serbian criminals against Albanian civilians (especially young women who were raped in the presence of their parents or members of their extended families). Please see the link below for more information, in case you’ve missed it: http://www.e-novine.com/srbija/srbija-tema/93521-Pravili-lampe-albanskih-lobanja.html
Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
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@ adrian.
Ya nice freedom fighters who cut peoples' organs out while they are alive. There are a few thousand of those freedom fighters right now in Syria fighting on the side with islamic jihad fanatics.
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It's not a crime, it's traditional! These charges are obviously racist and anti-albanian.
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Azir, you have just lost any credibility that that you thought you might have had with your latest outrageous post. In the beginning of your response your refer to 12,000 murders and later in the same response you put the number of those murdered at 15,000. In another 5 minutes will the number grow to 20,000? I realize that double digit numbers and higher are difficult for your simple mind to comprehend, but please quit embarrassing yourself. On second thought, keep it up. The entertainment value is priceless. LOL
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Kosova's Freedom Fighters will never be intimidated with false allegations and politicaly tainted charges.
That Dick from Switzerland ,the former Senator or what ever,must back up everthing he claims.
Evidence in court is need and Serbs wishfull thinking is not enough.
Instead of looking to get justice for the murdered 12,000 and the 3,000 kidnapped we are wasting time on allegations..............
Even if somehow the victoims (internationaly recognized Kosovars) might have succeeded in defending themselves in isolated incidents overall the Serbs are the main aggressors with the Hague testifing by numerous Serb indictment and convictions.
Actualy our Freedom Fighters were allies of NATO ,EU and USA defending agaisnt Serb Orthodox Terrorism.
The International Court of Justice even validated our heroic struggle.
Charging vicitms with self defense "crimes" is in human.
Just like placing an arms embargo on Genocide Bosnian victims when Serb aggrssors were armed to the teeth for 100 years of armed aggression.
Miss use of the court system to appeas politicly Serb international recognized aggrssrs.
We will once again come out clean.
Now solve the 15,000 murder cases in Kosova.
Serbia's Human Rights Director Kandic can help BRING REAL JUSTICE TO THE REAL VICTIMS.
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so a guy who gets his head removed w a chainsaw does not qualify as a real victim? I can only hope azir someone you know suffered as much only to be described as dirt. its like calling a rape victim as deserving of the crime? are you insane? nope..you are simply albanian..
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@Balkan Anthropologist, Questioner and PEN,
You guys have nothing to say about the proof one of your kind is giving to the e-novine? I mean using skulls like a lamp that's sickening? I believe those indictments are politically motivated, I mean for gods name we defended our people/homes we did not come to Serbia to fight. You guys make me sick trying to blame others for your own bad doings all over former Yugoslavia. Pathetic.
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The truth is seeping out the seams of a container made of lies.
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Sami Lushtaku can not be regarded as a freedom fighter!!! As well as killing Albanians Sami is accused for rapping woman and girls. Lack of witnesses and evidence does not mean he did not do it!! HE is a criminal at first hand. I know the man at personal level.
About the others I do not know them as well !!!
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Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
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If you're not getting the news here, you are more than welcome to go to an Albanian new site and get the "truth".
You can also comment and spew as much venom as you like against the Serbs there and nobody will challenge you.
Now tell us, how many articles have you read on Albanian sites condemning what the KLA have done to the Serbs?
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It's interesting that the B92 editorial team have deliberately chosen not to publish any of the accounts given by Slobodan Stojanovic (former commander in the Serbian army during the war in Kosova) to the e-novine website about the outrageous and gruesome atrocities committed by vicious Serbian criminals against Albanian civilians (especially young women who were raped in the presence of their parents or members of their extended families). Please see the link below for more information, in case you’ve missed it: [link]
Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
Since when are terrorists, murderers, drugdealers and organsnatchers freedom fighters?You do know that the KLA was labeled as a terrorist organization right?Islamic fanatics that behead people with chainsaws and pinch genitalies with iron forks. I must say that you have really great "freedom fighters".
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it looks like B92 has yet again takes to censoring my comment. don't know why, there's nothing derogatory in it. i will try again.
Daniel, if you can name me one KLA crime that measures up to anything the heavenly people did, (I insist that you can't), I will come up with 3 Serbian ones. its a challenge that I raise to you
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@ sj,
your side? you're an Aussie, you had nothing to do with anything! why you're going through an identity crisis I have no idea.
p.s. i read that nensense comment of yours and point you to Hague prison cells. full of serbian heroes isn't it?
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What about this Serbs?
Svedočenje: Očevidac monstruoznosti srpskih snaga na Kosovu
Pravili su lampe od albanskih lobanja
http://www.e-novine.com/srbija/srbija-tema/93521-Pravili-lampe-albanskih-lobanja.html
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you know what, not a single shred of evidence exists to paint the KLA with the same brush as the Serbian army. we have Racak, Prekaz, the expulsion of a million people as well as bodies of dead Albanians found in Serbia proper, the confession of Vlastimir Đorđević and last but not least, the current incarceration of Serbian war criminals in the Hague. not one person here can name me a KLA war crime that is on a par with any of them. however bad Albanians may well be, we're a long way behind on the war criminals list compared to the heavenly people
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@ daniel and @ peggy
I don't even know why I'm bothering with you two dimwits, but in case you haven't noticed (and can't read your own language), the last time I checked, e-novine is a Serbian site too, no?
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In early 1999, UK’s Defence Minister Lord George Robinson said “the KLA and other armed Albanian groups were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo that the Yugoslav (Serb) Army had been”.
I don’t think any more comment is required here.
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You remind me of that line in Shawshank Redemption sj, "we're all innocent in prison". The Hague Tribunal was approved by the UNSC, including your beloved mother Russia.
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cue the conspiracies sj. rather then me going round and round and round and round again, i will leave you with this, there are students in universities today, studying law, politics, war etc and who can clearly see, that the serbs gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. so sunshine, future generations learn those things about the heavenly people, not about simple Albanians. but don't worry, it has nothing to do with you, you're an Aussie
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'The man fell to his knees and Sami shot him twice more in the head, the protected witness told the prosecution, adding that Lustaku allegedly killed the ethnic Albanian because "the man killed his cousin".'
Killed his cousin? Looking at the vast population growth of Albanians from 1948 to 1991, I'd be surprised if they weren't all cousins.
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"Sami Lushtaku can not be regarded as a freedom fighter!!! As well as killing Albanians Sami is accused for rapping woman and girls. Lack of witnesses and evidence does not mean he did not do it!! HE is a criminal at first hand. I know the man at personal level."
Did he rape you or any one you knew? Or are you a witness to his crimes? If so then your life is in danger. In the run-up to Haradinaj's trial 19 witnesses or their family members were killed.
Many of the victims in these detention centers were Albanians whom they thought didn't support the KLA enough or were paranoid about.
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Azir, stop trolling on this site. It's bad enough you jerk off to UCK symbols. It's an insult to human intelligence that you keep trying to divert attention away from the topic at hand excuse the crimes your people committed with stuff that has no relevance. Your comment was probably censored because you wrote something stupid. B92 was doing you a favor. Thanks however for admitting that B92 is censoring your comments. Considering the garbage you post that makes it, I can only imagine what doesn't. It has nothing to do with hiding the truth. You have no idea what the truth is.
Hang these KLA thugs from a street light and put their families under house arrest. Fire tear gas at anyone that protests and tries to take their bodies down.
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Sick people here who try to justify severing a human head from a body.
Sabit Geci should be treated like a rabid animal. Unlike his forefathers who used sabers, he prefers to use a modern method - a chain saw - to sever a human head.
He has a long criminal record including killing his own kind.
http://www.trial-ch.org/en/resources/trial-watch/trial-watch/profiles/profile/917/action/show/controller/Profile.html
Fools ... who comment here and defend sociopathic behavior.
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Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
Newsflash, you do know that this is a serb site do you?Do you expect a serb site to lie and portray you as victims and serbs as perpetrators?
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oh believe me sj, I love conspiracies. CIA broke up Yugoslavia? I wonder, do they also have a hand in the Scottish referendum, or was it only Yugoslava that was worth the experiment? did they break up Czechoslovakia as well? yeah, blame the Yanks, thats really easy. horrible weather today, the CIA must have a hand in that as well
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B92 your censoreship of my replies will not get you or your people no where any time soon.
One allegation of a Serb Policman being allegedly killed by an Albanian will never equate the systematic murder of 12,000 and kidnapped 3,000 eventualy murdered Kosovars according to Belgrade's Human Rights Director Kandic.
Did you forget how many mass graves uncovered in Serbia?
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"You guys make me sick trying to blame others for your own bad doings all over former Yugoslavia. Pathetic."
(Mendo, 11 November 2013 21:10)
And you make me sick defending murders, killers, war criminals and ordinary mafia bosses, just because they are Albanians. And no, even 'freedom fighters' are not above the law and the UN statutes of how to treat prisoners of war.
I think the Kosovo society and political scene would make a great step in the right direction if all those shady persons would disappear and being replaced by honorable persons with some knowledge and merits. IAnd this includes your current 'prime minister', a person who could even be found on the CIA list of international criminals in former times.
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, if you can name me one KLA crime that measures up to anything the heavenly people did, (I insist that you can't), I will come up with 3 Serbian ones. its a challenge that I raise to you
(Nikolle, 12 November 2013 12:20)
Read my comments by Lord Robinson- he was your side not ours. Perhaps you may recall the 40 Albanian villagers found by the CIA operative William Walker supposedly killed by Serb military; well it was the KLA in cooperation with the CIA. The saddest part is your side killed more of your people than anyone else and you still can’t admit it. In that case hope Thaci doubles his efforts.
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(Nikolle, 12 November 2013 15:02)
It does not take too much for Albanian ignorance to rise to the surface. You see that so called court in the Hague was set up by a gentleman called Sir Ninian Stephens, a former Australian High Court judge and Governor General of Australia. It was supposed to be part of an International Criminal Court.
Actually several other young Australians were involved as well. After 12 months Sir Ninian realised that he was setting up a kangaroo court (no pun intended here) where justice had little to do with it but simply putting people in prison that the US did not like, he then resigned. The last of the Australians was of Asian descent and he lasted another 8 months after Sir Ninian left. This guy now even refuses to put on his CV that he spent time in The Hague. He calls it a career break.
This great man now refers to Vojslav Seslj as a travesty of justice which will stain the west for decades to come.
Lord Robinson is on record as making that statement and the fact that the US had you Thaci and KLA as terrorist only confirms it – join the dots mate.
William Walker was a CIA operative that was even mentioned by Robert Baer, I’m sure you have heard of that former CIA agent, and he was there to “find” a reason to attack Serbia.
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I am aware of all those theories Daneil, the Yugoslavs were never to blame, only the evil US. I've always wondered however, why break it up in the early to mid 90's? why not in 1986? 1954? 1964? people who believe in this CIA broke up Yugoslavia nonsense, need to pick a book or two. Ultimately Yugoslavs broke up Yugoslavia. America had nothing to do with it. Its not the fault of Yanks that Serbs elected Sloba and Croats Tujman
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What about this Serbs?
Svedočenje: Očevidac monstruoznosti srpskih snaga na Kosovu
Pravili su lampe od albanskih lobanja
[link]
(Avni, 11 November 2013 20:29
Thank you for the link Avni I really enjoyed reading that :)
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Nikolle of course no one wants to step forward and whitness against Haradinaj and the rest of your murderers and slaughters because they know that they will get killed. If everyone that knows something about albanian atrocities would witnes believe me your list of criminals would be waaaaaaaaaaaay longer than ours.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/world/europe/death-of-war-crimes-witness-casts-cloud-on-kosovo.html?_r=0
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You remind me of that line in Shawshank Redemption sj, "we're all innocent in prison". The Hague Tribunal was approved by the UNSC, including your beloved mother Russia.
(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 09:19)
Being an Albanian whose people tend to populate European prisons I’ll take your word for all being innocent. The UNSC did set it up and Russia did approve as it had no choice – its either Yeltsin does as he was told or no money and Russia goes to hell. Not anymore. Now even the United States of Piss and Wind is negotiating with Iran because it does not have the ability to use force.
On that same issue Tony Blair said “that the KLA was not much better than the Serbs”. Now how many Albos are in the Hague again considering Blair said that?
Both Blair and Geroge Robinson were ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm not surprised that things go above your head Daniel (its happened before). there is no doubt that Albanian criminals exist, there is no doubt that the Albanian mafia exists. this though is hardly an Albanian phenomena, there is a Serbian mafia, Italian mafia, Yakuza, a Jewish mafia etc etc. to deal with these individuals, is down to states in cooperation with each other. however, you're confusing two separate issues, the Hague Tribunal was set up with the specific purpose of dealing with Yugoslavia, its not the fault of judges that the heavenly people committed more war crimes, produced more war criminals (hence they are closest to Nazis in terms of numbers, so the comparison stands). deny it all you like, its in statistics, its what university students will learn
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What happened to the courageous "Road Blocks"??? LOL
I'm baaaccccckkkkk!!!
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Can anyone please tell me how many Jews were charged with War Crimes during World War 2?
And that's how many Kosovars need to be charged.........ZERO
The aggressor (Serbs) attacked in Kosova and not the other way around.
Only one Jashari alledgely retaliated.
Serbs committed an ATROCITY by using heavy military arms (tanks,what not)
On the JASHARI compound in Drenice,Kosova.
Massacreing dozens of women,children and elderly..
Kosovar victims have every right to defend their women,parents,children,property and livestock (if any) from anyone.
Any complaints (even 14 years later) bring you allegation(s) and solid evidence to an internationally recognized court (The Hague) and let your voice be heard.
In the mean time we still have atleast 15,000 murder cases with the perpatrators still to face justice.
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(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 10:46)
More likely you have run out of ideas as it seems even evidence that Albos committed terrible crimes can’t stop you from posting nonsense.
Are these same student clearly seeing that Thaci murdered hundreds at the request of the US in the 1990s???
Hey the Nazis were your allies not ours mate.
Now how many Albos are in the Hague again considering what Blair had said about Albanians? Be honest.
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The US requested of Thaci that he murder hundreds of civilians? My your sources must be watertight!
Would Albanians in Hague prison cells legitimise the court? How many Brits were charged for war crimes in WW2? Its not fair that only Nazis were tried. Sure, they started the war, committed terrible crimes, killed innocents and all that, but its not fair to only blame only them. Now replace Nazi with Serb and you'll see where I'm getting at
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let me get this straight, Thaci, at the behest of the US gov. murdered civilians? Thaci was/is CIA is what you're telling me?
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Only a Serb cause an incident and refuse to accept responsibility of the consequences.
'Why think of the repercussions when you can simply blame the victim'-Serb mentality.
Their failed way of think is "if I repeat this enough times it must somehow be true" ex.
For years Serbs spend millions on propaganda "KOSOVO IS SERBIA" nonsense.
Then Serbs finaly realized people can only be fooled so many times before their is a conflict with reality.
Serbia's PM Dacic enough confessed that Serbs were living a lie Kosova never belonged to Slav Serbs because Serbs never ORIGINATED FROM SERBIA.
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Sj this former CIA agent must be put under a lie detetor and all his allegation investigated by an unbiased UNSC authorized and funded TRUTH COMMITTEE.
When it is determined what he claims is not 100 truth he needs to be penalized financialy and with his freedom.
The true perpertators must confess and pay their debt to all the vicitims.
To allege that Srebrenica was "exaggerated" is insane.
How can anyone exaggerate thousands of dead bodies??????
All those corpses were recovered and pain stakingly indentified by DNA matches and yet that solid physical evidence does not convice to sj?
What about thousands of Bosnian and Kosovar rape victims?
Exaggerations you say??
Go tell that to the vicitms and see what happens.............
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What happened to the courageous "Road Blocks"??? LOL
I'm baaaccccckkkkk!!!
(Captain America, 15 November 2013 15:59)
I hear that the Al-Banian Testerashi stole all their road blocking lumber so they can heat themselves this winter.
If you see one of them with an AK 47 and a chainsaw, please alert the local Serbs.
P.S. Beware of any Albanians that possess an AK 47 and a chainsaw simultaneously, or any other equipment that can be used for the removal of human body parts and human organs--like straight razors, scalpels, scalpel blades, too many freezers or unusually bright lights over their kitchen tables.
Welcome back fraud, and quit associating yourself and blogging under the "US umbrella"--you and that KOSOVO-USA. If the two of you are, in fact, US citizens, and you choose to make that public, you have a duty to your fellow American citizens to speak for the democratic ideals upon which our nation was founded, and not for the selfish, narrow interests of internationally recognized terrorists, volume drug dealers, human traffickers and alleged human organ harvesters--aka KLA.
To be a US citizen is to carry a credential that is currently unparalleled in all the world. Think, THINK, before you speak.
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But it is Albanian gangs – known as the Mafia Shqiptare – that are causing particular concern.
The gangs are said to have been brutalised by the conflicts in the Balkans in the 1990s and sit on worldwide trade routes for guns, drugs and women.
The Mafia Shqiptare are believed to have taken over the sex trade in London’s Soho district and even reduced the power of the feared Italian Mafia in their own areas.
Stephen Whitelock, a Detective Chief Superintendent with the SCDEA, said: “We are noting the emergence of a number of crime groups from other countries operating in Scotland.
“This includes gangs from eastern Europe, southeast Asia – particularly Vietnam and China – as well as African countries.
“The Albanians are here now. Some of the individuals concerned are known to be capable of extreme violence.
Prostitution
“Albanian serious and organised crime groups have been know to be involved in prostitution, arms and drugs. They have been flagged up in our mapping exercise.”
He added: “We have a list of the top 20% most serious organised crime groups and, each of which is in the ownership of one of the forces or the agency. The Albanians are on that list.”
It is thought Albanian crime families arrived in the UK in the aftermath of the 1999 Kosovo war. The families are relatively small but strongly bonded by a code of honour and blood feuds.
KLA "freedom fighters"
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Nikolle, the US didnt do anything during the 80´s because they were preoccupied with the cold war conflict and Tito didnt die until 1980. By the way why is it so strange to you that the USA wanted to break up SFRJ?It wouldnt be the first time now would it?They created chaos in Nicaragua, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, VIETNAM, Cuba and countless of countries.
USA is not only evil but the biggest satan on earth, they would kill Everything and anyone to enrich themselves. Divide and conquer, the famous CIA policy that applies to Everything the US does when it comes to foreign politics. Just look at Iraq, nother example of the american version of "democracy".
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Now replace Nazi with Serb and you'll see where I'm getting at
(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 23:57)
Serbs didnt murder millions of innnocent people at concentration camps now did they? Serbs were one of the biggest victims of the German and Croat nazi and fasist policy so your comparison isn´t really relevent to say the least. Last but not least Serbs didnt form their own SS division unlike the albanians that formed SS Skanderbeg.
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(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 23:57)
My sources are watertight - try Robert Baer, former CIA operative and now well know author on these subjects. Baer spoke at the Gaelic Club in Sydney on this issue and friends who were there were gobsmacked to say the least what he said about how the war in Kosovo came about. He also talked about Srebrenica which he said was “an exaggerated story” and a few weeks before the fall of that town his boss said “a big CON was about to take place”. He has been interviewed on this subject but funny how the western free press never printed these interviews. Hmmmmm, I wonder why?
If Albanians committed the crimes YES they should be imprisoned. So far it’s only the Serbs while Croats, Albanians and Bosniaks walk in a revolving door; arrested and released the same day. How many Croats were imprisoned for the murder of Bosniaks in central Bosnia during their little war????? NO ONE.
“..... Brits were charged for war crimes in WW2? Its not fair that only Nazis were tried....”
Careful now your beginning to sound like a Serb.
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When asked what was the reason to break up Yugoslavia and why would the U.S. want to have its role in the whole situation, Baer replied that the reason is obvious, as the people who quietly initiated the war and loudly shouted about the peace are now owners of the companies that exploit variety of mineral resources and the like in the countries of former Yugoslavia. He said that they simply had created slaves through the war, because now people are working almost for free and the products are going to Germany and the U.S., so they earn a lot.
When asked about Kosovo and the involvement of the U.S. government, Baer said that Kosovo had been taken for two reasons, first because of mineral and natural resources, and the second reason was NATO military base in Kosovo – the largest military base in the very heart of Europe.
Baer had a message for the people of the former Yugoslavia – he said that they should forget their recent past as it was staged and faked. He said all nations of the former Yugoslavia had been manipulated and those behind the war got what they wanted. It would be stupid for the people to still hate each other, he said. He added that people should now be stronger and show that they are aware of what had happened and who had been responsible.
Baer apologised and said that exposure of the secrets of the CIA and the White House was his way to say “Sorry”.
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(Nikolle, 14 November 2013 12:47)
Robert Baer was a CIA operative and he has gone on lecture tours talking about Kosovo and Bosnia. He has written books on this subject. He was an agent prior to the war in Bosnia who took an active part there to bring about that mess. He has repeated many times the facts surrounding Kosovo and Srebrenica and the CIA’s involvement in the breakup of Yugo and yet these thick heads refuse to acknowledge even when proof is served up on a platter.
Normal people stop digging when they are about to bury themselves, but not the Albanians.
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oh believe me sj, I love conspiracies. CIA broke up Yugoslavia? I wonder, do they also have a hand in the Scottish referendum, or was it only Yugoslava that was worth the experiment? did they break up Czechoslovakia as well? yeah, blame the Yanks, thats really easy. horrible weather today, the CIA must have a hand in that as well
(Nikolle, 15 November 2013 10:33)
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If you are really that naive to believe that the US doesn't go around deposing legitimate governments in order to suit their needs then you are really not worth debating any of these issues.
Maybe you should take a look at what happened in South America. Try watching a John Pilger documentary on the very subject. It's a real eye opener. Documentary is called "War on Democracy".
Something tells me you know all about American efforts to remove governments they don't like and put their own puppets in but will not admit that, ever.
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Nikolle, 14 November 2013 12:47)
Robert Baer was a CIA operative and he has gone on lecture tours talking about Kosovo and Bosnia. He has written books on this subject. He was an agent prior to the war in Bosnia who took an active part there to bring about that mess. He has repeated many times the facts surrounding Kosovo and Srebrenica and the CIA’s involvement in the breakup of Yugo and yet these thick heads refuse to acknowledge even when proof is served up on a platter.
Normal people stop digging when they are about to bury themselves, but not the Albanians.
(sj, 15 November 2013 01:49)
sj,
Do you believe everything you read or just the material that supports your bizarre and twisted beliefs.
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Peggy, what threat did Yugoslavia ever pose to the Americans? None. Thing with people who believe in this nonsense, is that you can't believe that without also believing that Sloba was CIA, Mladic was CIA, Karadzic was CIA, Tujman was CIA, Thaci was CIA etc etc. once a conspiracy starts, you can take it anywhere.
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Kosova's Freedom Fighters will never be intimidated with false allegations and politicaly tainted charges.
That Dick from Switzerland ,the former Senator or what ever,must back up everthing he claims.
Evidence in court is need and Serbs wishfull thinking is not enough.
Instead of looking to get justice for the murdered 12,000 and the 3,000 kidnapped we are wasting time on allegations..............
Even if somehow the victoims (internationaly recognized Kosovars) might have succeeded in defending themselves in isolated incidents overall the Serbs are the main aggressors with the Hague testifing by numerous Serb indictment and convictions.
Actualy our Freedom Fighters were allies of NATO ,EU and USA defending agaisnt Serb Orthodox Terrorism.
The International Court of Justice even validated our heroic struggle.
Charging vicitms with self defense "crimes" is in human.
Just like placing an arms embargo on Genocide Bosnian victims when Serb aggrssors were armed to the teeth for 100 years of armed aggression.
Miss use of the court system to appeas politicly Serb international recognized aggrssrs.
We will once again come out clean.
Now solve the 15,000 murder cases in Kosova.
Serbia's Human Rights Director Kandic can help BRING REAL JUSTICE TO THE REAL VICTIMS.
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It's interesting that the B92 editorial team have deliberately chosen not to publish any of the accounts given by Slobodan Stojanovic (former commander in the Serbian army during the war in Kosova) to the e-novine website about the outrageous and gruesome atrocities committed by vicious Serbian criminals against Albanian civilians (especially young women who were raped in the presence of their parents or members of their extended families). Please see the link below for more information, in case you’ve missed it: http://www.e-novine.com/srbija/srbija-tema/93521-Pravili-lampe-albanskih-lobanja.html
Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
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What's the point? They will be released for "lack of evidence" and I'm sure the protected witness will soon go missing or mysteriously die. We all know how this works.
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@Balkan Anthropologist, Questioner and PEN,
You guys have nothing to say about the proof one of your kind is giving to the e-novine? I mean using skulls like a lamp that's sickening? I believe those indictments are politically motivated, I mean for gods name we defended our people/homes we did not come to Serbia to fight. You guys make me sick trying to blame others for your own bad doings all over former Yugoslavia. Pathetic.
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@ adrian.
Ya nice freedom fighters who cut peoples' organs out while they are alive. There are a few thousand of those freedom fighters right now in Syria fighting on the side with islamic jihad fanatics.
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Came here just to see if there's any Albanian keyboard warrior out to defend these monsters with idiotic excuses of self-defense and over the top chest beating patriotism.
Because decapitating someone with a chainsaw is self-defense. And all of this is an orchestrated smear campaign against the Albanian people who have never in their 35,000 year history ever committed one single atrocity against anyone.
Thank you azir for stepping into that predicted stereotype. The Dimwitted Diaspora of Dardania never ceases to deliver the laughs.
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Azir, you have just lost any credibility that that you thought you might have had with your latest outrageous post. In the beginning of your response your refer to 12,000 murders and later in the same response you put the number of those murdered at 15,000. In another 5 minutes will the number grow to 20,000? I realize that double digit numbers and higher are difficult for your simple mind to comprehend, but please quit embarrassing yourself. On second thought, keep it up. The entertainment value is priceless. LOL
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Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
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If you're not getting the news here, you are more than welcome to go to an Albanian new site and get the "truth".
You can also comment and spew as much venom as you like against the Serbs there and nobody will challenge you.
Now tell us, how many articles have you read on Albanian sites condemning what the KLA have done to the Serbs?
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Azir, stop trolling on this site. It's bad enough you jerk off to UCK symbols. It's an insult to human intelligence that you keep trying to divert attention away from the topic at hand excuse the crimes your people committed with stuff that has no relevance. Your comment was probably censored because you wrote something stupid. B92 was doing you a favor. Thanks however for admitting that B92 is censoring your comments. Considering the garbage you post that makes it, I can only imagine what doesn't. It has nothing to do with hiding the truth. You have no idea what the truth is.
Hang these KLA thugs from a street light and put their families under house arrest. Fire tear gas at anyone that protests and tries to take their bodies down.
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It's not a crime, it's traditional! These charges are obviously racist and anti-albanian.
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@azir;
'We will once again come out clean.'
Cleanliness has nothing to do with it. Liquidating anybody who dares testify against the brutality of the KLA is what it's all about. And if you were honest with yourself, you'd readily admit that. But unfortunately like most Albanians, you have a misplaced sense of loyalty towards the psychopaths amongst your own kind. There are those among the Serbs on the other hand who realise crimes were done in their name. As a result many have been prosecuted. You, like your Croat allies, refuse to accept evil was committed in your name and thus punish war criminals. That is a reflection of your own weakness and lingering sense of inferiority. You will never be free of the stain of war crimes until you address this issue.
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What about this Serbs?
Svedočenje: Očevidac monstruoznosti srpskih snaga na Kosovu
Pravili su lampe od albanskih lobanja
http://www.e-novine.com/srbija/srbija-tema/93521-Pravili-lampe-albanskih-lobanja.html
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may you all rot in hell
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so a guy who gets his head removed w a chainsaw does not qualify as a real victim? I can only hope azir someone you know suffered as much only to be described as dirt. its like calling a rape victim as deserving of the crime? are you insane? nope..you are simply albanian..
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What about this Serbs?
Svedočenje: Očevidac monstruoznosti srpskih snaga na Kosovu
Pravili su lampe od albanskih lobanja
[link]
(Avni, 11 November 2013 20:29
Thank you for the link Avni I really enjoyed reading that :)
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You remind me of that line in Shawshank Redemption sj, "we're all innocent in prison". The Hague Tribunal was approved by the UNSC, including your beloved mother Russia.
(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 09:19)
Being an Albanian whose people tend to populate European prisons I’ll take your word for all being innocent. The UNSC did set it up and Russia did approve as it had no choice – its either Yeltsin does as he was told or no money and Russia goes to hell. Not anymore. Now even the United States of Piss and Wind is negotiating with Iran because it does not have the ability to use force.
On that same issue Tony Blair said “that the KLA was not much better than the Serbs”. Now how many Albos are in the Hague again considering Blair said that?
Both Blair and Geroge Robinson were ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But it is Albanian gangs – known as the Mafia Shqiptare – that are causing particular concern.
The gangs are said to have been brutalised by the conflicts in the Balkans in the 1990s and sit on worldwide trade routes for guns, drugs and women.
The Mafia Shqiptare are believed to have taken over the sex trade in London’s Soho district and even reduced the power of the feared Italian Mafia in their own areas.
Stephen Whitelock, a Detective Chief Superintendent with the SCDEA, said: “We are noting the emergence of a number of crime groups from other countries operating in Scotland.
“This includes gangs from eastern Europe, southeast Asia – particularly Vietnam and China – as well as African countries.
“The Albanians are here now. Some of the individuals concerned are known to be capable of extreme violence.
Prostitution
“Albanian serious and organised crime groups have been know to be involved in prostitution, arms and drugs. They have been flagged up in our mapping exercise.”
He added: “We have a list of the top 20% most serious organised crime groups and, each of which is in the ownership of one of the forces or the agency. The Albanians are on that list.”
It is thought Albanian crime families arrived in the UK in the aftermath of the 1999 Kosovo war. The families are relatively small but strongly bonded by a code of honour and blood feuds.
KLA "freedom fighters"
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In early 1999, UK’s Defence Minister Lord George Robinson said “the KLA and other armed Albanian groups were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo that the Yugoslav (Serb) Army had been”.
I don’t think any more comment is required here.
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, if you can name me one KLA crime that measures up to anything the heavenly people did, (I insist that you can't), I will come up with 3 Serbian ones. its a challenge that I raise to you
(Nikolle, 12 November 2013 12:20)
Read my comments by Lord Robinson- he was your side not ours. Perhaps you may recall the 40 Albanian villagers found by the CIA operative William Walker supposedly killed by Serb military; well it was the KLA in cooperation with the CIA. The saddest part is your side killed more of your people than anyone else and you still can’t admit it. In that case hope Thaci doubles his efforts.
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(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 10:46)
More likely you have run out of ideas as it seems even evidence that Albos committed terrible crimes can’t stop you from posting nonsense.
Are these same student clearly seeing that Thaci murdered hundreds at the request of the US in the 1990s???
Hey the Nazis were your allies not ours mate.
Now how many Albos are in the Hague again considering what Blair had said about Albanians? Be honest.
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Oh, finally, an indictment. How many witnesses who could testify against these alleged war criminals will be intimidated or silenced (the one or the other way) this time?
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Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
Newsflash, you do know that this is a serb site do you?Do you expect a serb site to lie and portray you as victims and serbs as perpetrators?
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It's interesting that the B92 editorial team have deliberately chosen not to publish any of the accounts given by Slobodan Stojanovic (former commander in the Serbian army during the war in Kosova) to the e-novine website about the outrageous and gruesome atrocities committed by vicious Serbian criminals against Albanian civilians (especially young women who were raped in the presence of their parents or members of their extended families). Please see the link below for more information, in case you’ve missed it: [link]
Instead B92, like in many other occasions, are trying to veil these reports by diverting attention to trials and re-trials of honest freedom fighters, who in the worst of times were fighting the same disgusting criminals from raping and torturing their women.
(adrian kola, 11 November 2013 12:57)
Since when are terrorists, murderers, drugdealers and organsnatchers freedom fighters?You do know that the KLA was labeled as a terrorist organization right?Islamic fanatics that behead people with chainsaws and pinch genitalies with iron forks. I must say that you have really great "freedom fighters".
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B92 your censoreship of my replies will not get you or your people no where any time soon.
One allegation of a Serb Policman being allegedly killed by an Albanian will never equate the systematic murder of 12,000 and kidnapped 3,000 eventualy murdered Kosovars according to Belgrade's Human Rights Director Kandic.
Did you forget how many mass graves uncovered in Serbia?
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Nikolle of course no one wants to step forward and whitness against Haradinaj and the rest of your murderers and slaughters because they know that they will get killed. If everyone that knows something about albanian atrocities would witnes believe me your list of criminals would be waaaaaaaaaaaay longer than ours.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/world/europe/death-of-war-crimes-witness-casts-cloud-on-kosovo.html?_r=0
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@ sj,
your side? you're an Aussie, you had nothing to do with anything! why you're going through an identity crisis I have no idea.
p.s. i read that nensense comment of yours and point you to Hague prison cells. full of serbian heroes isn't it?
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(Nikolle, 12 November 2013 15:02)
It does not take too much for Albanian ignorance to rise to the surface. You see that so called court in the Hague was set up by a gentleman called Sir Ninian Stephens, a former Australian High Court judge and Governor General of Australia. It was supposed to be part of an International Criminal Court.
Actually several other young Australians were involved as well. After 12 months Sir Ninian realised that he was setting up a kangaroo court (no pun intended here) where justice had little to do with it but simply putting people in prison that the US did not like, he then resigned. The last of the Australians was of Asian descent and he lasted another 8 months after Sir Ninian left. This guy now even refuses to put on his CV that he spent time in The Hague. He calls it a career break.
This great man now refers to Vojslav Seslj as a travesty of justice which will stain the west for decades to come.
Lord Robinson is on record as making that statement and the fact that the US had you Thaci and KLA as terrorist only confirms it – join the dots mate.
William Walker was a CIA operative that was even mentioned by Robert Baer, I’m sure you have heard of that former CIA agent, and he was there to “find” a reason to attack Serbia.
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Sami Lushtaku can not be regarded as a freedom fighter!!! As well as killing Albanians Sami is accused for rapping woman and girls. Lack of witnesses and evidence does not mean he did not do it!! HE is a criminal at first hand. I know the man at personal level.
About the others I do not know them as well !!!
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'The man fell to his knees and Sami shot him twice more in the head, the protected witness told the prosecution, adding that Lustaku allegedly killed the ethnic Albanian because "the man killed his cousin".'
Killed his cousin? Looking at the vast population growth of Albanians from 1948 to 1991, I'd be surprised if they weren't all cousins.
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you know what, not a single shred of evidence exists to paint the KLA with the same brush as the Serbian army. we have Racak, Prekaz, the expulsion of a million people as well as bodies of dead Albanians found in Serbia proper, the confession of Vlastimir Đorđević and last but not least, the current incarceration of Serbian war criminals in the Hague. not one person here can name me a KLA war crime that is on a par with any of them. however bad Albanians may well be, we're a long way behind on the war criminals list compared to the heavenly people
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Sick people here who try to justify severing a human head from a body.
Sabit Geci should be treated like a rabid animal. Unlike his forefathers who used sabers, he prefers to use a modern method - a chain saw - to sever a human head.
He has a long criminal record including killing his own kind.
http://www.trial-ch.org/en/resources/trial-watch/trial-watch/profiles/profile/917/action/show/controller/Profile.html
Fools ... who comment here and defend sociopathic behavior.
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Now replace Nazi with Serb and you'll see where I'm getting at
(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 23:57)
Serbs didnt murder millions of innnocent people at concentration camps now did they? Serbs were one of the biggest victims of the German and Croat nazi and fasist policy so your comparison isn´t really relevent to say the least. Last but not least Serbs didnt form their own SS division unlike the albanians that formed SS Skanderbeg.
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Can anyone please tell me how many Jews were charged with War Crimes during World War 2?
And that's how many Kosovars need to be charged.........ZERO
The aggressor (Serbs) attacked in Kosova and not the other way around.
Only one Jashari alledgely retaliated.
Serbs committed an ATROCITY by using heavy military arms (tanks,what not)
On the JASHARI compound in Drenice,Kosova.
Massacreing dozens of women,children and elderly..
Kosovar victims have every right to defend their women,parents,children,property and livestock (if any) from anyone.
Any complaints (even 14 years later) bring you allegation(s) and solid evidence to an internationally recognized court (The Hague) and let your voice be heard.
In the mean time we still have atleast 15,000 murder cases with the perpatrators still to face justice.
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cue the conspiracies sj. rather then me going round and round and round and round again, i will leave you with this, there are students in universities today, studying law, politics, war etc and who can clearly see, that the serbs gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. so sunshine, future generations learn those things about the heavenly people, not about simple Albanians. but don't worry, it has nothing to do with you, you're an Aussie
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(Nikolle, 13 November 2013 23:57)
My sources are watertight - try Robert Baer, former CIA operative and now well know author on these subjects. Baer spoke at the Gaelic Club in Sydney on this issue and friends who were there were gobsmacked to say the least what he said about how the war in Kosovo came about. He also talked about Srebrenica which he said was “an exaggerated story” and a few weeks before the fall of that town his boss said “a big CON was about to take place”. He has been interviewed on this subject but funny how the western free press never printed these interviews. Hmmmmm, I wonder why?
If Albanians committed the crimes YES they should be imprisoned. So far it’s only the Serbs while Croats, Albanians and Bosniaks walk in a revolving door; arrested and released the same day. How many Croats were imprisoned for the murder of Bosniaks in central Bosnia during their little war????? NO ONE.
“..... Brits were charged for war crimes in WW2? Its not fair that only Nazis were tried....”
Careful now your beginning to sound like a Serb.
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(Nikolle, 14 November 2013 12:47)
Robert Baer was a CIA operative and he has gone on lecture tours talking about Kosovo and Bosnia. He has written books on this subject. He was an agent prior to the war in Bosnia who took an active part there to bring about that mess. He has repeated many times the facts surrounding Kosovo and Srebrenica and the CIA’s involvement in the breakup of Yugo and yet these thick heads refuse to acknowledge even when proof is served up on a platter.
Normal people stop digging when they are about to bury themselves, but not the Albanians.
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What happened to the courageous "Road Blocks"??? LOL
I'm baaaccccckkkkk!!!
(Captain America, 15 November 2013 15:59)
I hear that the Al-Banian Testerashi stole all their road blocking lumber so they can heat themselves this winter.
If you see one of them with an AK 47 and a chainsaw, please alert the local Serbs.
P.S. Beware of any Albanians that possess an AK 47 and a chainsaw simultaneously, or any other equipment that can be used for the removal of human body parts and human organs--like straight razors, scalpels, scalpel blades, too many freezers or unusually bright lights over their kitchen tables.
Welcome back fraud, and quit associating yourself and blogging under the "US umbrella"--you and that KOSOVO-USA. If the two of you are, in fact, US citizens, and you choose to make that public, you have a duty to your fellow American citizens to speak for the democratic ideals upon which our nation was founded, and not for the selfish, narrow interests of internationally recognized terrorists, volume drug dealers, human traffickers and alleged human organ harvesters--aka KLA.
To be a US citizen is to carry a credential that is currently unparalleled in all the world. Think, THINK, before you speak.
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The truth is seeping out the seams of a container made of lies.
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"You guys make me sick trying to blame others for your own bad doings all over former Yugoslavia. Pathetic."
(Mendo, 11 November 2013 21:10)
And you make me sick defending murders, killers, war criminals and ordinary mafia bosses, just because they are Albanians. And no, even 'freedom fighters' are not above the law and the UN statutes of how to treat prisoners of war.
I think the Kosovo society and political scene would make a great step in the right direction if all those shady persons would disappear and being replaced by honorable persons with some knowledge and merits. IAnd this includes your current 'prime minister', a person who could even be found on the CIA list of international criminals in former times.
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When asked what was the reason to break up Yugoslavia and why would the U.S. want to have its role in the whole situation, Baer replied that the reason is obvious, as the people who quietly initiated the war and loudly shouted about the peace are now owners of the companies that exploit variety of mineral resources and the like in the countries of former Yugoslavia. He said that they simply had created slaves through the war, because now people are working almost for free and the products are going to Germany and the U.S., so they earn a lot.
When asked about Kosovo and the involvement of the U.S. government, Baer said that Kosovo had been taken for two reasons, first because of mineral and natural resources, and the second reason was NATO military base in Kosovo – the largest military base in the very heart of Europe.
Baer had a message for the people of the former Yugoslavia – he said that they should forget their recent past as it was staged and faked. He said all nations of the former Yugoslavia had been manipulated and those behind the war got what they wanted. It would be stupid for the people to still hate each other, he said. He added that people should now be stronger and show that they are aware of what had happened and who had been responsible.
Baer apologised and said that exposure of the secrets of the CIA and the White House was his way to say “Sorry”.
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Nikolle, the US didnt do anything during the 80´s because they were preoccupied with the cold war conflict and Tito didnt die until 1980. By the way why is it so strange to you that the USA wanted to break up SFRJ?It wouldnt be the first time now would it?They created chaos in Nicaragua, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, VIETNAM, Cuba and countless of countries.
USA is not only evil but the biggest satan on earth, they would kill Everything and anyone to enrich themselves. Divide and conquer, the famous CIA policy that applies to Everything the US does when it comes to foreign politics. Just look at Iraq, nother example of the american version of "democracy".
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"Sami Lushtaku can not be regarded as a freedom fighter!!! As well as killing Albanians Sami is accused for rapping woman and girls. Lack of witnesses and evidence does not mean he did not do it!! HE is a criminal at first hand. I know the man at personal level."
Did he rape you or any one you knew? Or are you a witness to his crimes? If so then your life is in danger. In the run-up to Haradinaj's trial 19 witnesses or their family members were killed.
Many of the victims in these detention centers were Albanians whom they thought didn't support the KLA enough or were paranoid about.
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it looks like B92 has yet again takes to censoring my comment. don't know why, there's nothing derogatory in it. i will try again.
Daniel, if you can name me one KLA crime that measures up to anything the heavenly people did, (I insist that you can't), I will come up with 3 Serbian ones. its a challenge that I raise to you
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You remind me of that line in Shawshank Redemption sj, "we're all innocent in prison". The Hague Tribunal was approved by the UNSC, including your beloved mother Russia.
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Only a Serb cause an incident and refuse to accept responsibility of the consequences.
'Why think of the repercussions when you can simply blame the victim'-Serb mentality.
Their failed way of think is "if I repeat this enough times it must somehow be true" ex.
For years Serbs spend millions on propaganda "KOSOVO IS SERBIA" nonsense.
Then Serbs finaly realized people can only be fooled so many times before their is a conflict with reality.
Serbia's PM Dacic enough confessed that Serbs were living a lie Kosova never belonged to Slav Serbs because Serbs never ORIGINATED FROM SERBIA.
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Sj this former CIA agent must be put under a lie detetor and all his allegation investigated by an unbiased UNSC authorized and funded TRUTH COMMITTEE.
When it is determined what he claims is not 100 truth he needs to be penalized financialy and with his freedom.
The true perpertators must confess and pay their debt to all the vicitims.
To allege that Srebrenica was "exaggerated" is insane.
How can anyone exaggerate thousands of dead bodies??????
All those corpses were recovered and pain stakingly indentified by DNA matches and yet that solid physical evidence does not convice to sj?
What about thousands of Bosnian and Kosovar rape victims?
Exaggerations you say??
Go tell that to the vicitms and see what happens.............
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What happened to the courageous "Road Blocks"??? LOL
I'm baaaccccckkkkk!!!
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@ daniel and @ peggy
I don't even know why I'm bothering with you two dimwits, but in case you haven't noticed (and can't read your own language), the last time I checked, e-novine is a Serbian site too, no?
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let me get this straight, Thaci, at the behest of the US gov. murdered civilians? Thaci was/is CIA is what you're telling me?
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I'm not surprised that things go above your head Daniel (its happened before). there is no doubt that Albanian criminals exist, there is no doubt that the Albanian mafia exists. this though is hardly an Albanian phenomena, there is a Serbian mafia, Italian mafia, Yakuza, a Jewish mafia etc etc. to deal with these individuals, is down to states in cooperation with each other. however, you're confusing two separate issues, the Hague Tribunal was set up with the specific purpose of dealing with Yugoslavia, its not the fault of judges that the heavenly people committed more war crimes, produced more war criminals (hence they are closest to Nazis in terms of numbers, so the comparison stands). deny it all you like, its in statistics, its what university students will learn
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I am aware of all those theories Daneil, the Yugoslavs were never to blame, only the evil US. I've always wondered however, why break it up in the early to mid 90's? why not in 1986? 1954? 1964? people who believe in this CIA broke up Yugoslavia nonsense, need to pick a book or two. Ultimately Yugoslavs broke up Yugoslavia. America had nothing to do with it. Its not the fault of Yanks that Serbs elected Sloba and Croats Tujman
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oh believe me sj, I love conspiracies. CIA broke up Yugoslavia? I wonder, do they also have a hand in the Scottish referendum, or was it only Yugoslava that was worth the experiment? did they break up Czechoslovakia as well? yeah, blame the Yanks, thats really easy. horrible weather today, the CIA must have a hand in that as well
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The US requested of Thaci that he murder hundreds of civilians? My your sources must be watertight!
Would Albanians in Hague prison cells legitimise the court? How many Brits were charged for war crimes in WW2? Its not fair that only Nazis were tried. Sure, they started the war, committed terrible crimes, killed innocents and all that, but its not fair to only blame only them. Now replace Nazi with Serb and you'll see where I'm getting at
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oh believe me sj, I love conspiracies. CIA broke up Yugoslavia? I wonder, do they also have a hand in the Scottish referendum, or was it only Yugoslava that was worth the experiment? did they break up Czechoslovakia as well? yeah, blame the Yanks, thats really easy. horrible weather today, the CIA must have a hand in that as well
(Nikolle, 15 November 2013 10:33)
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If you are really that naive to believe that the US doesn't go around deposing legitimate governments in order to suit their needs then you are really not worth debating any of these issues.
Maybe you should take a look at what happened in South America. Try watching a John Pilger documentary on the very subject. It's a real eye opener. Documentary is called "War on Democracy".
Something tells me you know all about American efforts to remove governments they don't like and put their own puppets in but will not admit that, ever.
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Nikolle, 14 November 2013 12:47)
Robert Baer was a CIA operative and he has gone on lecture tours talking about Kosovo and Bosnia. He has written books on this subject. He was an agent prior to the war in Bosnia who took an active part there to bring about that mess. He has repeated many times the facts surrounding Kosovo and Srebrenica and the CIA’s involvement in the breakup of Yugo and yet these thick heads refuse to acknowledge even when proof is served up on a platter.
Normal people stop digging when they are about to bury themselves, but not the Albanians.
(sj, 15 November 2013 01:49)
sj,
Do you believe everything you read or just the material that supports your bizarre and twisted beliefs.
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Peggy, what threat did Yugoslavia ever pose to the Americans? None. Thing with people who believe in this nonsense, is that you can't believe that without also believing that Sloba was CIA, Mladic was CIA, Karadzic was CIA, Tujman was CIA, Thaci was CIA etc etc. once a conspiracy starts, you can take it anywhere.
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