Inscriptions in Macedonian Cyrillic now targeted in Croatia

Cyrillic of any kind is not welcome on this side of the Danube.
(Bam Bam, 5 November 2013 12:58)

Even Glagolthic, your own history? You Croat Nazis are as dumb as you are racist. Especially those American pretending to be Croat.

Croatians- A people without a history of their own beside betrayal, intolerance and genocide, the Talibans & Wahhabis of eastern Europe...

@BamBam;

The only thing welcome on your side of the Danube is the swastika.

LOL these Croatian "patriots" are too dumb to differentiate between Serbian Cyrillic and Macedonian Cyrillic? I guess if they can't read it, it must be in Cyrillic. Chinese restaurants and Arab consulates better be prepared! :)

Za dom stupidity!

Keep posting your hate, Bam Bam. You are a true representative of and for Croatia.

The croats of today tear down anything with Cyrillic script.

Maybe they should start to rip the pages out of Croation cultural history on Cyrillic script.

http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et04.html

It's sad that there is so much hate for a script in that country, it really does not make sense, it only creates more angry amongst the majority who thinks that they are not represented in the government of which are not really doing much to control this issue but to let it fester.

Reconciliate rather than devistate!!!

Walter,

You are so funny. Anything that the croatians have they stole from Italy and Serbia.

I just have one question please show me in History where Croatia ( as an independent nation lets ignore the absolute perversion of the 40's nazi state) ever existed pre the 90's.

They even speak serbian WTF

What is wrong with you people? Bam Bam is albanian, not croat. He supports the alb cause on a regular basis. He is commenting on behalf of croats because his boyfriend is a croat.

It's Bam Bam and Walter the dynamic duo again pouring out their anti-Serbian bile and exhalting the virtues of Croatia in all it's fascistic glory. I take it this dimwit Bam Bam would prefer Arab script ?? How shallow can a human being be when they destroy monuments erected to people of merit just because they are written in Cyrillic which looks beautiful on such structures. As for Walter....my friend ( and I use the term very loosely) you need a reality check. EU membership is nothing to most people in it,it is the politicians that need it not the masses.NATO is a terrorist organisation......maybe that's why they joined? The coastline is almost completely owned by multinationals that have marginalised the indigenous population and reduced them to working as waiters and not much else. Tourists only go because it's cheaper than the better alternatives and Serbs quite rightly boycott the place.They have a small population that's at least true....well if you expel 25% of your people you would have wouldn't you? As for reputation...that's rich if you think the infamy of Jasenovac is something to be admired then you need a doctor Walter. Apologise if you have anything about you.

Cyrillic of any kind is not welcome on this side of the Danube.
(Bam Bam, 5 November 2013 12:58)


The American side of the Danube?

I knew Croats weren't particularly intelligent, but mistaking Macedonian for Serbian? This along with Albania urging Greece to recognise Kosovo has absolutely made my day.

Cyrillic of any kind is not welcome on this side of the Danube.

I understand that Croats have got no issues with Macedonians. This was done by Croat haters, who does not like Croatia and to put more substance on Serbias issue like in the Vukovar case. This was clearly a measure of sabotage. This is what Serbo-Yugoslavia have been doing for decades and blaming Croatia for any violence....UDBa rings a bell here.

Bam-Bam, I am sure that you misspelled your real name...Damb-Damb must be for sure.
You are all the same peaple devided by turks, austro-hungarians and germans.
Be smart not Damb!

Croatia remains such a lucky country.. They have joined EU and NATO, they are richer, they have a long beautiful coast-line, they have tourism, they have the west, they were never bombed, they have a small population, they have a good reputation in the world, fewer hooligans and Neo-Nazis. I view it as the luckiest Balkan state after Slovenia.
(Walter, 5 November 2013 15:56) So rite Croatia companys have even bought Slovenias biggest companys. The Slovenians/goverment use to be so proud would not sell to Croatians. Now they are begging us to buy their companys like Mercator we once offered 221 euros per Mercator share in 2011 the Slovenian goverment http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/croatia-s-agrokor-to-pay-eu430-million-for-mercator-stake.html refused. This year we offered 120 euros a share the Slovenian goverment accepted. Croatian Atlantic group also took over Slovenia's big Kolinska. Just dont tell the Malyasian econimest sj because our companys are also buying out Serbias "biggest". We allready also own over 70% of Bosnia's companys and increasing. Tourisem is booming averging 5% year over year grouth also. Little sj here are the British that you say rejected Croatia. In 2012 23% increase and in 2013 24% http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10354135/Young-Britons-flock-to-Croatia.html on top of the 2012 increase. We are a nice freindly people and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BleRkHnFdlQ&feature=fvw country as long as you don't piss us off.

Croatia remains such a lucky country.. They have joined EU and NATO, they are richer, they have a long beautiful coast-line, they have tourism, they have the west, they were never bombed, they never had an Albanian minority or a Gypsy for that matter, they have a small population, they have a good reputation in the world, fewer hooligans and Neo-Nazis.. I view it as the luckiest Balkan state after Slovenia.

(Lenard, 5 November 2013 17:55)

Like most Croats Lenny you very stupid man. You no understand any of this and post crap that is laughable. What has young Brits visiting Croatia have to do with what I said about the Croatian delegation visiting London???? Young Brits go to Serbia too because it’s cheap accommodation food and alcohol. They only interested in good time for smallest outlay like all young people.
You get Croatians to tell US how you succeed in business and maybe US economy going as good as Croatians. Opps no better not because US no need more soup kitchens.

Can't blame Croats. They thought it was written in Serbian.

@ Mia - Croatia didn't exist pre 90's...what school did you attend? Our history is at least 600 years older than Serbia...I'm not surprised you didn't know that but I am surprised you would write something before you do some homework!

Our history is at least 600 years older than Serbia...I'm not surprised you didn't know that but I am surprised you would write something before you do some homework!
(Croatian Canadian, 6 November 2013 20:48)

975 of your 1000 year history was spent as a vassal of some higher and more advanced civilization. The only other time you were independent was when in the 1940s.

"Petkovič" doesn't sound very FYROMian (Bulgarian) to me. And why should Croatians recognize the FYROMian alphabet, a mongrelized Bulgarian alphabet with Serbian letters, it's a joke. That's like the Montenegro "alphabet" and "language". Balkans doesn't need more braindead fragmentating into fake nations.

Had it read, Petkov, Croats would have thought it was dedicated to their Russian partners that are very involved in their economy.

(Croatian Canadian, 6 November 2013 20:48)
Firstly do tell us how Croatia became a country after leaving the Austrian Hungarian Empire in 1918 and which significant battles you guys fought to gain that freedom.
Yes I know your history is 600 years older as you guys go back to the first civilisation. It was the Croat Assyrians that wrote the first texts on clay tablets in Mesopotamia then the Croatian Egyptians built the pyramids following on it was Croatian Greeks that wrote philosophy and mathematics. We have evidence today in Croatia where several Roman emperors were born in Croatia and so it goes on today.
I used to listen to an extreme right winged Croat radio program before it was shut down by authorities and some of the statements that came out were real whoppers to say the least. On one occasion they said that the Potomac River was actually named by Croat sailors that jumped ship and lived with the Indians. Then a “professor” in the Croatian language claimed that Croatians were living and ruling half of today’s Poland and Ukraine.
Considering you guys were around in 1 CE and today there is about 4.2 million Croats in Croatia, then how many were there at the start? 50 million, 100 million? I attended some very good schools and have excellent contact with people in several universities and no one has heard of this mighty Croatia that you bragging about. As an academic said to me once. “it’s always the ones that have no real history that brag about it”.

"Petkovič" doesn't sound very FYROMian (Bulgarian) to me. And why should Croatians recognize the FYROMian alphabet, a mongrelized Bulgarian alphabet with Serbian letters, it's a joke. That's like the Montenegro "alphabet" and "language". Balkans doesn't need more braindead fragmentating into fake nations.

Had it read, Petkov, Croats would have thought it was dedicated to their Russian partners that are very involved in their economy.

Our history is at least 600 years older than Serbia...
(Croatian Canadian, 6 November 2013 20:48)

Mia was clearly referring to Croatia existing as an independent country. What school did you attend? Serbia started out as a principality in the 7th century whilst Croatia started out as one in the 8th century.

"Croatia... was settled in the 7th century by the Croats... In 925, the Croats defeated Byzantine and Frankish invaders and established their own independent kingdom, which reached its peak during the 11th century..."
Source(s):
Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"
(Karatay Osman, 8 November 2013 04:45)
I passed this onto a historian who specialises in early European history. His comment was “what a load of s***”, people believe anything that’s on paper. He is well aware of the claims in it and not one has been proven to be correct.

"Croatia... was settled in the 7th century by the Croats... In 925, the Croats defeated Byzantine and Frankish invaders and established their own independent kingdom, which reached its peak during the 11th century..."
Source(s):
Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"
(Karatay Osman, 8 November 2013 04:45)

Finally, some citations. It's a shame your entire comment is taken word for word from a Yahoo answers page (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101231170736AAEkpuF), rendering it invalid, much like the fictional history of Croatia. Croatia first appeared in existence with the Principality of Dalmatian Croatia in 803 (Croatia — an independent principality - Richard C. Frucht, 2005) whilst Serbia first came into existence as the Principality of Serbia in 768 (Slavs in the Early Middle Ages - Sedov, 1995). The same source also states that Serbs are first mentioned in raids on Eastern Roman territory in 518, but let's just ignore that fact. Given the sources above, this makes Serbia a minimum of 35 years older than Croatia. I personally couldn't care less, but I'm just trying to disprove your fascist propaganda that Croats are '600 years older than Serbs'.

@Apis - I cant make you read and learn, its up to you to find facts.
(Croatian Canadian, 7 November 2013 16:02)

That's a brilliant response to the challenges made on your original bold claim. There's a small fallacy you've made called 'burden of proof'. It is not up to me or anyone else to disprove your claim; it is up to you to prove it. I think everyone here would love to see you try to prove Croatia is '600 years older than Serbia'. Here's a tip: you can't because it isn't. There's a thing called historical consensus and it's completely disagreeing with your fascist propaganda.

Sorry to any Serbs if i'm being sceptic about history Serbs write, personally I don't believe them too much since they are known for falsification of history, and raping the history of other nations.

I live in U.S.A and we got a school homework to do, we have to choose one nation and write something about it.

I'm going for Croats or either Serbs, but I think I should go for Croatia since they have pretty much old history, but I don't know for Serbs, anyone knows something more about them?
I would like to write about both nations, but I don't want to write about 500 years of Ottoman rule, any older and earlier signs of Serbs?

http://www.historyofnations.net/europe/croatia.html
http://www.historyofnations.net/europe/serbiaandmontenegro.html

(John J, 8 November 2013 04:42)

'John', your comment greatly amuses me. A Croat masquerading as an American student asking for help with his homework on a Serbian news site. In addition, there apparently exists an 'American' child who doesn't believe Serbs 'too much since they are known for falsification of history, and raping the history of other nations'. If I were to approach any of my fellow students at university and ask them to point out Croatia or Serbia on a map, they wouldn't be able to. Yet there exists this child prodigy who is for some reason interested in the Balkans at all. You Croats have a really great sense of humour. You've also yet to supply any citations for Croatia being older than Serbia.

@Apis - I'm not going to waste my time on a person that can't comprehend recent history...ie...Serbs started a war in 1991 and yet your version is far different than what the whole entire world saw! There is only one explanation, you can't accept the truth and fact therefore, you make it up as you go. Milosevic, the Serbs in the region of Krajina and thousands of barbaric Serbs attempted to take what was never theirs, attempting to recreate the facts, blaming everyone but themselve's and still today, while Croatia has never formally had a war criminal and Serbia has many, you try to change recent history and say Croatia were the aggressors and the Serbs were innocent...and I should debate with you? Impossible to discuss with a person that is delusional!

History is written in many different forms and versions, there is always another version but the challenge is to get to the truth! I could care less about what you choose to believe, you dont even admit what happened just over 18 years ago so how could I expect you to know further back!

(John J, 8 November 2013 04:42)
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Your command of English is so bad that I must ask when you moved to America if indeed you have.

If you want to pass yourself off as an American, please get a better command of the language you portray to be you first language.

@Apis - I cant make you read and learn, its up to you to find facts.

Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"

"The issue of their origin has been subject to hard debates, but their roots are still not "officially" known. This book offers a new theory, well-established in contrary to the others (the Iranic, Germanic, Slavic, and Avaro-Bulgaric theories), about who the first Croats were, by explaining how a Turkic tribe disappeared in the north of the Caucasus and appeared in the south of Poland, and then migrated to Dalmatia to start the process of making of the Croatian nation."

The Croatian state was created much earlier than the Serbian state ...

"Croatia... was settled in the 7th century by the Croats... In 925, the Croats defeated Byzantine and Frankish invaders and established their own independent kingdom, which reached its peak during the 11th century..."
Source(s):
Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"

(Croatian Canadian, 8 November 2013 15:53)

This is all really rich coming from a Croat. Serbs are responsible for 4,508 Croatian civilian deaths in this last war; don't argue the number, it comes from Western sources. I'm also going to ignore the Serbian civilian casualties, just for the sake of this argument. Meanwhile, an estimated 500,000 Serbs have been murdered, 250,000 expelled and 200,000 forcibly converted (estimate by Yad Vashem) by Croatian fascists in WWII. The way I see it, you shouldn't complain at all until 495,493 more Croatians are killed by us. I'm aware Croatia has no laws against historical revisionism or Holocaust denial; it's probably where you've learnt all your 'facts'. You clearly don't understand what history is. There are fabrications and there is the truth. The idea that Croatia is 600 years older than Serbia is an lie. Why? Not a single objective source can confirm this. You can't disregard the sources I provided earlier as Serbian propaganda, because these claims don't come from Serbs.

Apis - Yad Vashem? I should now go and research a Jewish groups stats so that you can make your point? How did you sawy so far off topic? weren't we talking about 1991, Krajina, Vukovar and the recent war...and you bring up Yad Vashem as if to bring credibility to yourself?

You said Croatia committed "495,493" more murders than Serbs and basically, until we are even we shouldnt complain? You are ill dude...seriously! Its typical and no surprise as to why you and your people are viewed as crazy by the western world, this is a huge reason as to why Croatians dont want any part of you...it was embarassing for us to be viewed as the same as you!

The funniest part of all this is....why would Serbs even want to live in Croatia? If they want to have their language, culture and traditions, why Croatia...why not Serbia? leave...nobody really cares about what you think...do you think Jews in Israel like Arabs? Ask a Jew if he thinks Arabs should be equal to them in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem or Ashkelon? I would love to know what a jew would say if Palestinians from Jerusalem tried to take over Jerusalem...how they would be treated less than 20 years later. better yet, when you find out please post your comments here for me to read!

Cyrillic of any kind is not welcome on this side of the Danube.

Croatia remains such a lucky country.. They have joined EU and NATO, they are richer, they have a long beautiful coast-line, they have tourism, they have the west, they were never bombed, they never had an Albanian minority or a Gypsy for that matter, they have a small population, they have a good reputation in the world, fewer hooligans and Neo-Nazis.. I view it as the luckiest Balkan state after Slovenia.

Croatia remains such a lucky country.. They have joined EU and NATO, they are richer, they have a long beautiful coast-line, they have tourism, they have the west, they were never bombed, they have a small population, they have a good reputation in the world, fewer hooligans and Neo-Nazis. I view it as the luckiest Balkan state after Slovenia.
(Walter, 5 November 2013 15:56) So rite Croatia companys have even bought Slovenias biggest companys. The Slovenians/goverment use to be so proud would not sell to Croatians. Now they are begging us to buy their companys like Mercator we once offered 221 euros per Mercator share in 2011 the Slovenian goverment http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/croatia-s-agrokor-to-pay-eu430-million-for-mercator-stake.html refused. This year we offered 120 euros a share the Slovenian goverment accepted. Croatian Atlantic group also took over Slovenia's big Kolinska. Just dont tell the Malyasian econimest sj because our companys are also buying out Serbias "biggest". We allready also own over 70% of Bosnia's companys and increasing. Tourisem is booming averging 5% year over year grouth also. Little sj here are the British that you say rejected Croatia. In 2012 23% increase and in 2013 24% http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10354135/Young-Britons-flock-to-Croatia.html on top of the 2012 increase. We are a nice freindly people and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BleRkHnFdlQ&feature=fvw country as long as you don't piss us off.

Croatians- A people without a history of their own beside betrayal, intolerance and genocide, the Talibans & Wahhabis of eastern Europe...

Keep posting your hate, Bam Bam. You are a true representative of and for Croatia.

Can't blame Croats. They thought it was written in Serbian.

@BamBam;

The only thing welcome on your side of the Danube is the swastika.

I understand that Croats have got no issues with Macedonians. This was done by Croat haters, who does not like Croatia and to put more substance on Serbias issue like in the Vukovar case. This was clearly a measure of sabotage. This is what Serbo-Yugoslavia have been doing for decades and blaming Croatia for any violence....UDBa rings a bell here.

LOL these Croatian "patriots" are too dumb to differentiate between Serbian Cyrillic and Macedonian Cyrillic? I guess if they can't read it, it must be in Cyrillic. Chinese restaurants and Arab consulates better be prepared! :)

Za dom stupidity!

Walter,

You are so funny. Anything that the croatians have they stole from Italy and Serbia.

I just have one question please show me in History where Croatia ( as an independent nation lets ignore the absolute perversion of the 40's nazi state) ever existed pre the 90's.

They even speak serbian WTF

Cyrillic of any kind is not welcome on this side of the Danube.
(Bam Bam, 5 November 2013 12:58)

Even Glagolthic, your own history? You Croat Nazis are as dumb as you are racist. Especially those American pretending to be Croat.

"Petkovič" doesn't sound very FYROMian (Bulgarian) to me. And why should Croatians recognize the FYROMian alphabet, a mongrelized Bulgarian alphabet with Serbian letters, it's a joke. That's like the Montenegro "alphabet" and "language". Balkans doesn't need more braindead fragmentating into fake nations.

Had it read, Petkov, Croats would have thought it was dedicated to their Russian partners that are very involved in their economy.

"Petkovič" doesn't sound very FYROMian (Bulgarian) to me. And why should Croatians recognize the FYROMian alphabet, a mongrelized Bulgarian alphabet with Serbian letters, it's a joke. That's like the Montenegro "alphabet" and "language". Balkans doesn't need more braindead fragmentating into fake nations.

Had it read, Petkov, Croats would have thought it was dedicated to their Russian partners that are very involved in their economy.

It's Bam Bam and Walter the dynamic duo again pouring out their anti-Serbian bile and exhalting the virtues of Croatia in all it's fascistic glory. I take it this dimwit Bam Bam would prefer Arab script ?? How shallow can a human being be when they destroy monuments erected to people of merit just because they are written in Cyrillic which looks beautiful on such structures. As for Walter....my friend ( and I use the term very loosely) you need a reality check. EU membership is nothing to most people in it,it is the politicians that need it not the masses.NATO is a terrorist organisation......maybe that's why they joined? The coastline is almost completely owned by multinationals that have marginalised the indigenous population and reduced them to working as waiters and not much else. Tourists only go because it's cheaper than the better alternatives and Serbs quite rightly boycott the place.They have a small population that's at least true....well if you expel 25% of your people you would have wouldn't you? As for reputation...that's rich if you think the infamy of Jasenovac is something to be admired then you need a doctor Walter. Apologise if you have anything about you.

@ Mia - Croatia didn't exist pre 90's...what school did you attend? Our history is at least 600 years older than Serbia...I'm not surprised you didn't know that but I am surprised you would write something before you do some homework!

The croats of today tear down anything with Cyrillic script.

Maybe they should start to rip the pages out of Croation cultural history on Cyrillic script.

http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et04.html

It's sad that there is so much hate for a script in that country, it really does not make sense, it only creates more angry amongst the majority who thinks that they are not represented in the government of which are not really doing much to control this issue but to let it fester.

Reconciliate rather than devistate!!!

Bam-Bam, I am sure that you misspelled your real name...Damb-Damb must be for sure.
You are all the same peaple devided by turks, austro-hungarians and germans.
Be smart not Damb!

What is wrong with you people? Bam Bam is albanian, not croat. He supports the alb cause on a regular basis. He is commenting on behalf of croats because his boyfriend is a croat.

(Lenard, 5 November 2013 17:55)

Like most Croats Lenny you very stupid man. You no understand any of this and post crap that is laughable. What has young Brits visiting Croatia have to do with what I said about the Croatian delegation visiting London???? Young Brits go to Serbia too because it’s cheap accommodation food and alcohol. They only interested in good time for smallest outlay like all young people.
You get Croatians to tell US how you succeed in business and maybe US economy going as good as Croatians. Opps no better not because US no need more soup kitchens.

Cyrillic of any kind is not welcome on this side of the Danube.
(Bam Bam, 5 November 2013 12:58)


The American side of the Danube?

Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"

"The issue of their origin has been subject to hard debates, but their roots are still not "officially" known. This book offers a new theory, well-established in contrary to the others (the Iranic, Germanic, Slavic, and Avaro-Bulgaric theories), about who the first Croats were, by explaining how a Turkic tribe disappeared in the north of the Caucasus and appeared in the south of Poland, and then migrated to Dalmatia to start the process of making of the Croatian nation."

The Croatian state was created much earlier than the Serbian state ...

"Croatia... was settled in the 7th century by the Croats... In 925, the Croats defeated Byzantine and Frankish invaders and established their own independent kingdom, which reached its peak during the 11th century..."
Source(s):
Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"

I knew Croats weren't particularly intelligent, but mistaking Macedonian for Serbian? This along with Albania urging Greece to recognise Kosovo has absolutely made my day.

Sorry to any Serbs if i'm being sceptic about history Serbs write, personally I don't believe them too much since they are known for falsification of history, and raping the history of other nations.

I live in U.S.A and we got a school homework to do, we have to choose one nation and write something about it.

I'm going for Croats or either Serbs, but I think I should go for Croatia since they have pretty much old history, but I don't know for Serbs, anyone knows something more about them?
I would like to write about both nations, but I don't want to write about 500 years of Ottoman rule, any older and earlier signs of Serbs?

http://www.historyofnations.net/europe/croatia.html
http://www.historyofnations.net/europe/serbiaandmontenegro.html

Our history is at least 600 years older than Serbia...I'm not surprised you didn't know that but I am surprised you would write something before you do some homework!
(Croatian Canadian, 6 November 2013 20:48)

975 of your 1000 year history was spent as a vassal of some higher and more advanced civilization. The only other time you were independent was when in the 1940s.

(Croatian Canadian, 6 November 2013 20:48)
Firstly do tell us how Croatia became a country after leaving the Austrian Hungarian Empire in 1918 and which significant battles you guys fought to gain that freedom.
Yes I know your history is 600 years older as you guys go back to the first civilisation. It was the Croat Assyrians that wrote the first texts on clay tablets in Mesopotamia then the Croatian Egyptians built the pyramids following on it was Croatian Greeks that wrote philosophy and mathematics. We have evidence today in Croatia where several Roman emperors were born in Croatia and so it goes on today.
I used to listen to an extreme right winged Croat radio program before it was shut down by authorities and some of the statements that came out were real whoppers to say the least. On one occasion they said that the Potomac River was actually named by Croat sailors that jumped ship and lived with the Indians. Then a “professor” in the Croatian language claimed that Croatians were living and ruling half of today’s Poland and Ukraine.
Considering you guys were around in 1 CE and today there is about 4.2 million Croats in Croatia, then how many were there at the start? 50 million, 100 million? I attended some very good schools and have excellent contact with people in several universities and no one has heard of this mighty Croatia that you bragging about. As an academic said to me once. “it’s always the ones that have no real history that brag about it”.

Our history is at least 600 years older than Serbia...
(Croatian Canadian, 6 November 2013 20:48)

Mia was clearly referring to Croatia existing as an independent country. What school did you attend? Serbia started out as a principality in the 7th century whilst Croatia started out as one in the 8th century.

"Croatia... was settled in the 7th century by the Croats... In 925, the Croats defeated Byzantine and Frankish invaders and established their own independent kingdom, which reached its peak during the 11th century..."
Source(s):
Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"
(Karatay Osman, 8 November 2013 04:45)
I passed this onto a historian who specialises in early European history. His comment was “what a load of s***”, people believe anything that’s on paper. He is well aware of the claims in it and not one has been proven to be correct.

"Croatia... was settled in the 7th century by the Croats... In 925, the Croats defeated Byzantine and Frankish invaders and established their own independent kingdom, which reached its peak during the 11th century..."
Source(s):
Author: Karatay, Osman
"In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation"
(Karatay Osman, 8 November 2013 04:45)

Finally, some citations. It's a shame your entire comment is taken word for word from a Yahoo answers page (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101231170736AAEkpuF), rendering it invalid, much like the fictional history of Croatia. Croatia first appeared in existence with the Principality of Dalmatian Croatia in 803 (Croatia — an independent principality - Richard C. Frucht, 2005) whilst Serbia first came into existence as the Principality of Serbia in 768 (Slavs in the Early Middle Ages - Sedov, 1995). The same source also states that Serbs are first mentioned in raids on Eastern Roman territory in 518, but let's just ignore that fact. Given the sources above, this makes Serbia a minimum of 35 years older than Croatia. I personally couldn't care less, but I'm just trying to disprove your fascist propaganda that Croats are '600 years older than Serbs'.

@Apis - I'm not going to waste my time on a person that can't comprehend recent history...ie...Serbs started a war in 1991 and yet your version is far different than what the whole entire world saw! There is only one explanation, you can't accept the truth and fact therefore, you make it up as you go. Milosevic, the Serbs in the region of Krajina and thousands of barbaric Serbs attempted to take what was never theirs, attempting to recreate the facts, blaming everyone but themselve's and still today, while Croatia has never formally had a war criminal and Serbia has many, you try to change recent history and say Croatia were the aggressors and the Serbs were innocent...and I should debate with you? Impossible to discuss with a person that is delusional!

History is written in many different forms and versions, there is always another version but the challenge is to get to the truth! I could care less about what you choose to believe, you dont even admit what happened just over 18 years ago so how could I expect you to know further back!

@Apis - I cant make you read and learn, its up to you to find facts.

@Apis - I cant make you read and learn, its up to you to find facts.
(Croatian Canadian, 7 November 2013 16:02)

That's a brilliant response to the challenges made on your original bold claim. There's a small fallacy you've made called 'burden of proof'. It is not up to me or anyone else to disprove your claim; it is up to you to prove it. I think everyone here would love to see you try to prove Croatia is '600 years older than Serbia'. Here's a tip: you can't because it isn't. There's a thing called historical consensus and it's completely disagreeing with your fascist propaganda.

(John J, 8 November 2013 04:42)

'John', your comment greatly amuses me. A Croat masquerading as an American student asking for help with his homework on a Serbian news site. In addition, there apparently exists an 'American' child who doesn't believe Serbs 'too much since they are known for falsification of history, and raping the history of other nations'. If I were to approach any of my fellow students at university and ask them to point out Croatia or Serbia on a map, they wouldn't be able to. Yet there exists this child prodigy who is for some reason interested in the Balkans at all. You Croats have a really great sense of humour. You've also yet to supply any citations for Croatia being older than Serbia.

(John J, 8 November 2013 04:42)
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Your command of English is so bad that I must ask when you moved to America if indeed you have.

If you want to pass yourself off as an American, please get a better command of the language you portray to be you first language.

(Croatian Canadian, 8 November 2013 15:53)

This is all really rich coming from a Croat. Serbs are responsible for 4,508 Croatian civilian deaths in this last war; don't argue the number, it comes from Western sources. I'm also going to ignore the Serbian civilian casualties, just for the sake of this argument. Meanwhile, an estimated 500,000 Serbs have been murdered, 250,000 expelled and 200,000 forcibly converted (estimate by Yad Vashem) by Croatian fascists in WWII. The way I see it, you shouldn't complain at all until 495,493 more Croatians are killed by us. I'm aware Croatia has no laws against historical revisionism or Holocaust denial; it's probably where you've learnt all your 'facts'. You clearly don't understand what history is. There are fabrications and there is the truth. The idea that Croatia is 600 years older than Serbia is an lie. Why? Not a single objective source can confirm this. You can't disregard the sources I provided earlier as Serbian propaganda, because these claims don't come from Serbs.

Apis - Yad Vashem? I should now go and research a Jewish groups stats so that you can make your point? How did you sawy so far off topic? weren't we talking about 1991, Krajina, Vukovar and the recent war...and you bring up Yad Vashem as if to bring credibility to yourself?

You said Croatia committed "495,493" more murders than Serbs and basically, until we are even we shouldnt complain? You are ill dude...seriously! Its typical and no surprise as to why you and your people are viewed as crazy by the western world, this is a huge reason as to why Croatians dont want any part of you...it was embarassing for us to be viewed as the same as you!

The funniest part of all this is....why would Serbs even want to live in Croatia? If they want to have their language, culture and traditions, why Croatia...why not Serbia? leave...nobody really cares about what you think...do you think Jews in Israel like Arabs? Ask a Jew if he thinks Arabs should be equal to them in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem or Ashkelon? I would love to know what a jew would say if Palestinians from Jerusalem tried to take over Jerusalem...how they would be treated less than 20 years later. better yet, when you find out please post your comments here for me to read!