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Thursday, 17.10.2013.

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"Kosovo makes progress, but has serious issues to address"

In 2013, Priština has made progress in the normalization of relations with Belgrade, but there are serious problems, an EC report said.

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sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry, dear, but you asked the question about the difference between you and the other poster who is the CE of B92 forums sj. It's not my fault if that's a bizarre question to ask.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 22 October 2013 04:53)
Is there any oxygen on your planet? Who are you talking about? What does P.S. stand for? You sound as if you have split personalities and a few are trying to get out.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?
(sj, 18 October 2013 10:50)

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 19 October 2013 04:08)

Some advice lay off the cooking sherry. Your posting are getting more and more bizarre to the point where you only can understand them. Are you sure you’re not Leonard?
(sj, 21 October 2013 10:03)

Sorry, dear, but you asked the question about the difference between you and the other poster who is the CE of B92 forums sj. It's not my fault if that's a bizarre question to ask.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

When you read articles in Australian newspapers on revenge killings in an Albanian village where people cannot leave their house for fear of being killed by their neighbour then you don’t need to know anyone.
(sj, 21 October 2013 10:38)

I thought you only use trusted sources like Malaysian newspapers and not sources from the evil Western countries which have committed what the Serbian Orthodox Church considers a sin: i.e. recognizing Kosovo...

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

its funny what you've been reduced to sj, basically advocating a violent solution. the reason why you've been reduced to this, is because you're feeling impotent, basically Kosova is gone from Serbia (the North is an issue no doubt) and out of frustration, you're writing these things. face it sunshine, your so called answer to the Albanain 'problem', isn't going to happen, so enjoy fantasising about it

sj

pre 10 godina

All Albanians? really? How many Albanians do you know.
(Danilo, 19 October 2013 14:40)
When you read articles in Australian newspapers on revenge killings in an Albanian village where people cannot leave their house for fear of being killed by their neighbour then you don’t need to know anyone.
There are about 10 000 living in Australia – when I have the time I’ll post you details of how your lot behaved when they were flown out here in 1999 to be “saved from the Serbs”. Rapes, bank robberies, burglaries shop lifting etc and they were only here for a couple of month. Our government returned every one of them. Tells you a lot about Albanians.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 19 October 2013 04:08)

Some advice lay off the cooking sherry. Your posting are getting more and more bizarre to the point where you only can understand them. Are you sure you’re not Leonard?

Brandon

pre 10 godina

So are we to reach the same conclusion with what Serbs did in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? The worst acts since WW2.... . The nations can not be judged by neither their worst nor their best day. It's hypocritical to stand here and point to the flaws in Kosovo's new democracy, when your nation played a significant role in instilling those flaws through colonial practices and later through destruction and ethnic cleaning.
But even more importantly your point of view put a stop to any form of communication between us. Because as long as you only talk my dear neighbor, I can always reply to you. But if you act upon, you are leaving me no choice. And your language has lead us to war before. That's why I am grateful you don't represent the average Serb... .

Danilo

pre 10 godina

Albanians have a system of revenge killings in the 21 century
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All Albanians? really? How many Albanians do you know.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?
(sj, 18 October 2013 10:50)

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

The EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years and all EU reports show that nothing is working, no real democracy, no respect for human rights, judicial/police corruption rampant.
(sj, 18 October 2013 23:30)

Ok, finally got it... Sorry for being so slow to understand your brilliant analysis. So that means that Kosovo should happily go under Serbia again, because Serbia and only Serbia with its vast financial and human resources can make Kosovo work, built a real democracy there with respect for human right and with a judicial/police free of corruption. Indeed, we see that all of the above works in Serbia already...
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How long do you think the US would put up with the Albanians before using live rounds on them???…??
(sj, 18 October 2013 23:30)

Longer than Serbs for sure... that's the whole point :) You see dear... everything is relative. Making absolute statements means nothing - you need to compare to the alternative.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Brandon, 18 October 2013 17:23)
I only speak for myself and not the average Serb. The problem I have here is that in today’s society if you speak the truth it’s termed as racists to shut all critics so that people don’t feel inferior. I hate to say it but a spade is still a spade.
An education is a trade learnt at University nothing more and nothing less – it is not a magic wand to see through rose coloured glasses. It is through experience that I have learnt that some people require rule by brutal force and others are no better than animals.
Albanians have a system of revenge killings in the 21 century, so how do you deal with these people? The EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years and all EU reports show that nothing is working, no real democracy, no respect for human rights, judicial/police corruption rampant. Why do you think Brussels is pushing for these agreements between Belgrade and Pristina? They want to get out – Albanians are a financial millstone around their necks.
How long do you think the US would put up with the Albanians before using live rounds on them????????????

Brandon

pre 10 godina

sj,
I am sure that you don't represent the average Serbian opinion. Pointing to financial education while pushing for the use of force, not only is moronic but also contradictory. Also suggesting that somehow Albanians are inferior and should be treated as animals (by force) is as racist as it can be. But judging from your reply , I am not sure you understand it.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikolle, 18 October 2013 11:58)

No I am making all of this up to frighten the little Albanians. Kosova all you like but the winds of change are taking place. By the way why don’t you try what the Us does and see how long you last. If your not worried what are you doing on a serb based media site? Surely you have one belonging to Albanians? Do you see any comments there by sj?????
I notice that Thaci has to wipe a lot of eggnog off his face – the best thing Belgrade has done by signing that agreement; just like a rope around the neck ever time thaci makes a move.
Education is for people who want to learn, you Albos are beyond that. You people think money grows on trees. Get yourself a job in government, in treasury and then come back and tell me how I am wrong LOL, LOL.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

@sj

..and even if all your predictions all come to pass (they won't) you won't live to see this 'deal with Albanians with force' fantasy of yours come true. all that you have been reduced to, is writing how horrid we are. I in the meantime, am seeing with my eyes, and am living to see it in actuality, a Kosova that Belgrade does not run. but don't worry, you can still come here and 'educate' the likes of us on financial matters (that you have never worked in the financial industry i have no doubt)

sj

pre 10 godina

its only ever going to be a fantasy of yours sj, you'll never live to see it happen. In the meantime, we'll carry on living in your beloved Kosmet
(Nikolle, 18 October 2013 10:29)

Here is something for you to ponder. On Tuesday this week Obama made a statement that could not have been clearer even to the simplest of people like you.
“we have to lift the ceiling so that we can borrow more money to pay our debts”. They are borrowing to pay for debt??????? Its now 16.7 trillion and by end of December it will hit the 17 trillion mark.
Prior to the 1930s great depression the UK held all the money. By 1932 the US became the world banker as it had all the cash. Today its handed that burden over to china and that is why we have China, Russia and Japan asking to move away from the US dollar.
You Albos will be looking at Albania for accommodation because the US will not help you.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry dear, but there is some inconsistency‎ between you and the CE of B92 forums sj who has already shown with brilliant economic and financial analysis that the EU is broke and has run out of cash. Somebody who is broke and has run out of cash cannot have spent billions!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2013 04:18)

Have you been into the cooking sherry? Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"There is only one way of dealing with the Albanians and that’s with force..."

its only ever going to be a fantasy of yours sj, you'll never live to see it happen. In the meantime, we'll carry on living in your beloved Kosmet

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 17 October 2013 15:57)
First of all Serbia proper is far ahead of Kosovo to start with so it’s like comparing apples with oranges. In addition, the EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years holding the Albanians hand with no change at all after all this time.
If the Albanians were carrying on in the US like they are doing in Kosovo, how long would it take for the local US authorities to use bullets? Two or three weeks?
They would open fire with live rounds on your lot without hesitation.

icj1

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.
(sj, 17 October 2013 13:03)

Sorry dear, but there is some inconsistency‎ between you and the CE of B92 forums sj who has already shown with brilliant economic and financial analysis that the EU is broke and has run out of cash. Somebody who is broke and has run out of cash cannot have spent billions!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join the EU. It's prevented from joining with Albania too. Dead end for Kosovo.
(Navi, 17 October 2013 20:59)

I think you meant "The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join Serbia" because it's Serbia which is saying that "Kosovo is not a country", not the EU. Certainly the EU is under no obligation to honor what Serbia says, even though Serbs might believe that they are the masters of the universe. Not to mention that it is a moot point anyway, because something does not need to be a country to be part of the EU. Indeed, the EU has already authorized the start of SAA negotiations with the "non-country" Kosovo*.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Brandon, 17 October 2013 21:05)

This is a Serbian-based media group so if you don’t like then go off to your Albanian media website and whinge there. However, what part is it racists? In early 2012 the EU’s Audit office issued its report on Kosovo – it was scathing in that after billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. You have a judiciary that is corrupt and loyal to its clan groups, you have a police force that “sits in their cars and only issue infringement notices and nothing else” . The office also commented on the level of corruption within the Pristina administration.
And now this report “Priština has made progress in the normalization of relations …, but there are serious problems…”. In effect this means that after 14 years of guided democracy, hand holding the judiciary, police and administration nothing has changed.
There is only one way of dealing with the Albanians and that’s with force – hey, your people still have revenge killings in the 21 century. This is stone age practice.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

@Comm

Im trying to figure out if you've died a little inside, now that the EU has said Kosova is making progress. Dont worry, you're going to be dying a whole lot more in the next few years

Momir

pre 10 godina

And what about the constant violence against Serbs and other minorities? How many more unsolved crimes to happen in order to divert the attention of the EU that Kosovo is far from European standards.

Navi

pre 10 godina

The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join the EU. It's prevented from joining with Albania too. Dead end for Kosovo.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

Nice summary. And what a 'great progress' must have been reached in Kosovo during all these years when all these 'issues' mentioned still exist. To sum up: Billions of money of the EU wasted for EULEX and KFOR, with little improvvements.

It seems to be hard to understand for a European that you simply cannot bring democracy, human rights, law and basic standards to a society which is ruled by mafia clans, and the only law to be obeyed is loyalty towards the clan leader, may it be in Kosovo or in Afghanistan.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

What is notable in this report, or the quoted extracts that are in the B92 article, is that Kosovo suffers from the same problems as all other Balkan countries. Absence of rule of law, corruption, nepotism and 'gay bashing' are widespread across the region including in the countries that have already joined the EU. Ultimately, all countries are judged on economic competence or at least a perception of such and if this meets with the approval of the Brussels mafia then the road to membership is much smoother. If eradicating corruption completely were either a condition for acquiring membership or retaining it we would have a very small union indeed.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

" protection of minorities"

Hahaha.Do albos know the definition of the above?Albos are all a bunch of hypocrites of the worst kind.I do recall their comments on the LGBT parade in Belgrade.

Reader

pre 10 godina

LOL, this is what I call good reporting. The news that Kosovo will sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement is barely mentioned indirectly in half a sentence. The rest is the "but" part, Kosovo will sign the SAA but it has to do this and this and that. Similarly to Serbia in 2008.

pss

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.
(sj, 17 October 2013 13:03)
I see the embarrassment in your posting. Even with the Serbian slant to the article and the attempt to highlight the worst, and Portrayal of Kosovo as neutral status in the report, it still portrays Kosovo and Serbia has having the same issues to solve in order to get into the EU. This is after much praise on the progress Serbia has made, which leaves one question, how bad was it in Serbia before, if they are now only up to having to solve the same issues as Kosovo??
Of course with the "Albanians with force" comment only shows that Serbia has not really progressed on put on some window dressing to fool those who pass by and don't look inside.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"... that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else."

if I had to be really unkind, I'd say its the feeling of impotence that is bringing out the fascist in you. seems Serbian force wasn't much use either eh? enjoy seeing Kosova on Google images sj, that's the closest your people will get to running it again.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Serious issues hm? But take a good look at Serbia's issues, they surpass Kosova's issues by a long shot! Kosova has only been addressing its own problems for Some 14 years only, very understandable & acceptable! Serbia, has grown gray & still she cannot resolve all the problems that plaque her society!!! Corruption, prostitution, abuse against its minority's including her very gay community, human, drug & arms trafficking to name a few!!!
Even the children are in violent mode!

sj

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.

Aura.

pre 10 godina

No mention of the constant violence and harrassment against Serbs (women, children and elderly mostly) since 1999, the desecration of holy sites and graveyards, that not one prosecution of these myriad of crimes have begun etc. I could go on and on. The people who wrote this report must be getting high on the snakes supply. So one rule for these bandits, and another for Serbs. What's new?

sj

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.

Aura.

pre 10 godina

No mention of the constant violence and harrassment against Serbs (women, children and elderly mostly) since 1999, the desecration of holy sites and graveyards, that not one prosecution of these myriad of crimes have begun etc. I could go on and on. The people who wrote this report must be getting high on the snakes supply. So one rule for these bandits, and another for Serbs. What's new?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"... that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else."

if I had to be really unkind, I'd say its the feeling of impotence that is bringing out the fascist in you. seems Serbian force wasn't much use either eh? enjoy seeing Kosova on Google images sj, that's the closest your people will get to running it again.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Serious issues hm? But take a good look at Serbia's issues, they surpass Kosova's issues by a long shot! Kosova has only been addressing its own problems for Some 14 years only, very understandable & acceptable! Serbia, has grown gray & still she cannot resolve all the problems that plaque her society!!! Corruption, prostitution, abuse against its minority's including her very gay community, human, drug & arms trafficking to name a few!!!
Even the children are in violent mode!

pss

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.
(sj, 17 October 2013 13:03)
I see the embarrassment in your posting. Even with the Serbian slant to the article and the attempt to highlight the worst, and Portrayal of Kosovo as neutral status in the report, it still portrays Kosovo and Serbia has having the same issues to solve in order to get into the EU. This is after much praise on the progress Serbia has made, which leaves one question, how bad was it in Serbia before, if they are now only up to having to solve the same issues as Kosovo??
Of course with the "Albanians with force" comment only shows that Serbia has not really progressed on put on some window dressing to fool those who pass by and don't look inside.

Momir

pre 10 godina

And what about the constant violence against Serbs and other minorities? How many more unsolved crimes to happen in order to divert the attention of the EU that Kosovo is far from European standards.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Brandon, 17 October 2013 21:05)

This is a Serbian-based media group so if you don’t like then go off to your Albanian media website and whinge there. However, what part is it racists? In early 2012 the EU’s Audit office issued its report on Kosovo – it was scathing in that after billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. You have a judiciary that is corrupt and loyal to its clan groups, you have a police force that “sits in their cars and only issue infringement notices and nothing else” . The office also commented on the level of corruption within the Pristina administration.
And now this report “Priština has made progress in the normalization of relations …, but there are serious problems…”. In effect this means that after 14 years of guided democracy, hand holding the judiciary, police and administration nothing has changed.
There is only one way of dealing with the Albanians and that’s with force – hey, your people still have revenge killings in the 21 century. This is stone age practice.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

" protection of minorities"

Hahaha.Do albos know the definition of the above?Albos are all a bunch of hypocrites of the worst kind.I do recall their comments on the LGBT parade in Belgrade.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 17 October 2013 15:57)
First of all Serbia proper is far ahead of Kosovo to start with so it’s like comparing apples with oranges. In addition, the EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years holding the Albanians hand with no change at all after all this time.
If the Albanians were carrying on in the US like they are doing in Kosovo, how long would it take for the local US authorities to use bullets? Two or three weeks?
They would open fire with live rounds on your lot without hesitation.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikolle, 18 October 2013 11:58)

No I am making all of this up to frighten the little Albanians. Kosova all you like but the winds of change are taking place. By the way why don’t you try what the Us does and see how long you last. If your not worried what are you doing on a serb based media site? Surely you have one belonging to Albanians? Do you see any comments there by sj?????
I notice that Thaci has to wipe a lot of eggnog off his face – the best thing Belgrade has done by signing that agreement; just like a rope around the neck ever time thaci makes a move.
Education is for people who want to learn, you Albos are beyond that. You people think money grows on trees. Get yourself a job in government, in treasury and then come back and tell me how I am wrong LOL, LOL.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry dear, but there is some inconsistency‎ between you and the CE of B92 forums sj who has already shown with brilliant economic and financial analysis that the EU is broke and has run out of cash. Somebody who is broke and has run out of cash cannot have spent billions!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2013 04:18)

Have you been into the cooking sherry? Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?

sj

pre 10 godina

its only ever going to be a fantasy of yours sj, you'll never live to see it happen. In the meantime, we'll carry on living in your beloved Kosmet
(Nikolle, 18 October 2013 10:29)

Here is something for you to ponder. On Tuesday this week Obama made a statement that could not have been clearer even to the simplest of people like you.
“we have to lift the ceiling so that we can borrow more money to pay our debts”. They are borrowing to pay for debt??????? Its now 16.7 trillion and by end of December it will hit the 17 trillion mark.
Prior to the 1930s great depression the UK held all the money. By 1932 the US became the world banker as it had all the cash. Today its handed that burden over to china and that is why we have China, Russia and Japan asking to move away from the US dollar.
You Albos will be looking at Albania for accommodation because the US will not help you.

Reader

pre 10 godina

LOL, this is what I call good reporting. The news that Kosovo will sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement is barely mentioned indirectly in half a sentence. The rest is the "but" part, Kosovo will sign the SAA but it has to do this and this and that. Similarly to Serbia in 2008.

Navi

pre 10 godina

The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join the EU. It's prevented from joining with Albania too. Dead end for Kosovo.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

sj,
I am sure that you don't represent the average Serbian opinion. Pointing to financial education while pushing for the use of force, not only is moronic but also contradictory. Also suggesting that somehow Albanians are inferior and should be treated as animals (by force) is as racist as it can be. But judging from your reply , I am not sure you understand it.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Brandon, 18 October 2013 17:23)
I only speak for myself and not the average Serb. The problem I have here is that in today’s society if you speak the truth it’s termed as racists to shut all critics so that people don’t feel inferior. I hate to say it but a spade is still a spade.
An education is a trade learnt at University nothing more and nothing less – it is not a magic wand to see through rose coloured glasses. It is through experience that I have learnt that some people require rule by brutal force and others are no better than animals.
Albanians have a system of revenge killings in the 21 century, so how do you deal with these people? The EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years and all EU reports show that nothing is working, no real democracy, no respect for human rights, judicial/police corruption rampant. Why do you think Brussels is pushing for these agreements between Belgrade and Pristina? They want to get out – Albanians are a financial millstone around their necks.
How long do you think the US would put up with the Albanians before using live rounds on them????????????

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

Nice summary. And what a 'great progress' must have been reached in Kosovo during all these years when all these 'issues' mentioned still exist. To sum up: Billions of money of the EU wasted for EULEX and KFOR, with little improvvements.

It seems to be hard to understand for a European that you simply cannot bring democracy, human rights, law and basic standards to a society which is ruled by mafia clans, and the only law to be obeyed is loyalty towards the clan leader, may it be in Kosovo or in Afghanistan.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

its funny what you've been reduced to sj, basically advocating a violent solution. the reason why you've been reduced to this, is because you're feeling impotent, basically Kosova is gone from Serbia (the North is an issue no doubt) and out of frustration, you're writing these things. face it sunshine, your so called answer to the Albanain 'problem', isn't going to happen, so enjoy fantasising about it

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

What is notable in this report, or the quoted extracts that are in the B92 article, is that Kosovo suffers from the same problems as all other Balkan countries. Absence of rule of law, corruption, nepotism and 'gay bashing' are widespread across the region including in the countries that have already joined the EU. Ultimately, all countries are judged on economic competence or at least a perception of such and if this meets with the approval of the Brussels mafia then the road to membership is much smoother. If eradicating corruption completely were either a condition for acquiring membership or retaining it we would have a very small union indeed.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

@sj

..and even if all your predictions all come to pass (they won't) you won't live to see this 'deal with Albanians with force' fantasy of yours come true. all that you have been reduced to, is writing how horrid we are. I in the meantime, am seeing with my eyes, and am living to see it in actuality, a Kosova that Belgrade does not run. but don't worry, you can still come here and 'educate' the likes of us on financial matters (that you have never worked in the financial industry i have no doubt)

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"There is only one way of dealing with the Albanians and that’s with force..."

its only ever going to be a fantasy of yours sj, you'll never live to see it happen. In the meantime, we'll carry on living in your beloved Kosmet

Danilo

pre 10 godina

Albanians have a system of revenge killings in the 21 century
---------------

All Albanians? really? How many Albanians do you know.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

So are we to reach the same conclusion with what Serbs did in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? The worst acts since WW2.... . The nations can not be judged by neither their worst nor their best day. It's hypocritical to stand here and point to the flaws in Kosovo's new democracy, when your nation played a significant role in instilling those flaws through colonial practices and later through destruction and ethnic cleaning.
But even more importantly your point of view put a stop to any form of communication between us. Because as long as you only talk my dear neighbor, I can always reply to you. But if you act upon, you are leaving me no choice. And your language has lead us to war before. That's why I am grateful you don't represent the average Serb... .

icj1

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.
(sj, 17 October 2013 13:03)

Sorry dear, but there is some inconsistency‎ between you and the CE of B92 forums sj who has already shown with brilliant economic and financial analysis that the EU is broke and has run out of cash. Somebody who is broke and has run out of cash cannot have spent billions!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join the EU. It's prevented from joining with Albania too. Dead end for Kosovo.
(Navi, 17 October 2013 20:59)

I think you meant "The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join Serbia" because it's Serbia which is saying that "Kosovo is not a country", not the EU. Certainly the EU is under no obligation to honor what Serbia says, even though Serbs might believe that they are the masters of the universe. Not to mention that it is a moot point anyway, because something does not need to be a country to be part of the EU. Indeed, the EU has already authorized the start of SAA negotiations with the "non-country" Kosovo*.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 19 October 2013 04:08)

Some advice lay off the cooking sherry. Your posting are getting more and more bizarre to the point where you only can understand them. Are you sure you’re not Leonard?

sj

pre 10 godina

All Albanians? really? How many Albanians do you know.
(Danilo, 19 October 2013 14:40)
When you read articles in Australian newspapers on revenge killings in an Albanian village where people cannot leave their house for fear of being killed by their neighbour then you don’t need to know anyone.
There are about 10 000 living in Australia – when I have the time I’ll post you details of how your lot behaved when they were flown out here in 1999 to be “saved from the Serbs”. Rapes, bank robberies, burglaries shop lifting etc and they were only here for a couple of month. Our government returned every one of them. Tells you a lot about Albanians.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?
(sj, 18 October 2013 10:50)

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 19 October 2013 04:08)

Some advice lay off the cooking sherry. Your posting are getting more and more bizarre to the point where you only can understand them. Are you sure you’re not Leonard?
(sj, 21 October 2013 10:03)

Sorry, dear, but you asked the question about the difference between you and the other poster who is the CE of B92 forums sj. It's not my fault if that's a bizarre question to ask.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

When you read articles in Australian newspapers on revenge killings in an Albanian village where people cannot leave their house for fear of being killed by their neighbour then you don’t need to know anyone.
(sj, 21 October 2013 10:38)

I thought you only use trusted sources like Malaysian newspapers and not sources from the evil Western countries which have committed what the Serbian Orthodox Church considers a sin: i.e. recognizing Kosovo...

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

@Comm

Im trying to figure out if you've died a little inside, now that the EU has said Kosova is making progress. Dont worry, you're going to be dying a whole lot more in the next few years

icj1

pre 10 godina

Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?
(sj, 18 October 2013 10:50)

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

The EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years and all EU reports show that nothing is working, no real democracy, no respect for human rights, judicial/police corruption rampant.
(sj, 18 October 2013 23:30)

Ok, finally got it... Sorry for being so slow to understand your brilliant analysis. So that means that Kosovo should happily go under Serbia again, because Serbia and only Serbia with its vast financial and human resources can make Kosovo work, built a real democracy there with respect for human right and with a judicial/police free of corruption. Indeed, we see that all of the above works in Serbia already...
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How long do you think the US would put up with the Albanians before using live rounds on them???…??
(sj, 18 October 2013 23:30)

Longer than Serbs for sure... that's the whole point :) You see dear... everything is relative. Making absolute statements means nothing - you need to compare to the alternative.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry, dear, but you asked the question about the difference between you and the other poster who is the CE of B92 forums sj. It's not my fault if that's a bizarre question to ask.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 22 October 2013 04:53)
Is there any oxygen on your planet? Who are you talking about? What does P.S. stand for? You sound as if you have split personalities and a few are trying to get out.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Serious issues hm? But take a good look at Serbia's issues, they surpass Kosova's issues by a long shot! Kosova has only been addressing its own problems for Some 14 years only, very understandable & acceptable! Serbia, has grown gray & still she cannot resolve all the problems that plaque her society!!! Corruption, prostitution, abuse against its minority's including her very gay community, human, drug & arms trafficking to name a few!!!
Even the children are in violent mode!

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"... that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else."

if I had to be really unkind, I'd say its the feeling of impotence that is bringing out the fascist in you. seems Serbian force wasn't much use either eh? enjoy seeing Kosova on Google images sj, that's the closest your people will get to running it again.

pss

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.
(sj, 17 October 2013 13:03)
I see the embarrassment in your posting. Even with the Serbian slant to the article and the attempt to highlight the worst, and Portrayal of Kosovo as neutral status in the report, it still portrays Kosovo and Serbia has having the same issues to solve in order to get into the EU. This is after much praise on the progress Serbia has made, which leaves one question, how bad was it in Serbia before, if they are now only up to having to solve the same issues as Kosovo??
Of course with the "Albanians with force" comment only shows that Serbia has not really progressed on put on some window dressing to fool those who pass by and don't look inside.

sj

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.

Reader

pre 10 godina

LOL, this is what I call good reporting. The news that Kosovo will sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement is barely mentioned indirectly in half a sentence. The rest is the "but" part, Kosovo will sign the SAA but it has to do this and this and that. Similarly to Serbia in 2008.

Aura.

pre 10 godina

No mention of the constant violence and harrassment against Serbs (women, children and elderly mostly) since 1999, the desecration of holy sites and graveyards, that not one prosecution of these myriad of crimes have begun etc. I could go on and on. The people who wrote this report must be getting high on the snakes supply. So one rule for these bandits, and another for Serbs. What's new?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

@Comm

Im trying to figure out if you've died a little inside, now that the EU has said Kosova is making progress. Dont worry, you're going to be dying a whole lot more in the next few years

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"There is only one way of dealing with the Albanians and that’s with force..."

its only ever going to be a fantasy of yours sj, you'll never live to see it happen. In the meantime, we'll carry on living in your beloved Kosmet

icj1

pre 10 godina

So after 14 years of EU rule and billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. I wonder how long it will take for the EU knuckleheads to realise that you treat Albanians with force and nothing else.
(sj, 17 October 2013 13:03)

Sorry dear, but there is some inconsistency‎ between you and the CE of B92 forums sj who has already shown with brilliant economic and financial analysis that the EU is broke and has run out of cash. Somebody who is broke and has run out of cash cannot have spent billions!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join the EU. It's prevented from joining with Albania too. Dead end for Kosovo.
(Navi, 17 October 2013 20:59)

I think you meant "The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join Serbia" because it's Serbia which is saying that "Kosovo is not a country", not the EU. Certainly the EU is under no obligation to honor what Serbia says, even though Serbs might believe that they are the masters of the universe. Not to mention that it is a moot point anyway, because something does not need to be a country to be part of the EU. Indeed, the EU has already authorized the start of SAA negotiations with the "non-country" Kosovo*.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Nikolle, 18 October 2013 11:58)

No I am making all of this up to frighten the little Albanians. Kosova all you like but the winds of change are taking place. By the way why don’t you try what the Us does and see how long you last. If your not worried what are you doing on a serb based media site? Surely you have one belonging to Albanians? Do you see any comments there by sj?????
I notice that Thaci has to wipe a lot of eggnog off his face – the best thing Belgrade has done by signing that agreement; just like a rope around the neck ever time thaci makes a move.
Education is for people who want to learn, you Albos are beyond that. You people think money grows on trees. Get yourself a job in government, in treasury and then come back and tell me how I am wrong LOL, LOL.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

@sj

..and even if all your predictions all come to pass (they won't) you won't live to see this 'deal with Albanians with force' fantasy of yours come true. all that you have been reduced to, is writing how horrid we are. I in the meantime, am seeing with my eyes, and am living to see it in actuality, a Kosova that Belgrade does not run. but don't worry, you can still come here and 'educate' the likes of us on financial matters (that you have never worked in the financial industry i have no doubt)

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

Nice summary. And what a 'great progress' must have been reached in Kosovo during all these years when all these 'issues' mentioned still exist. To sum up: Billions of money of the EU wasted for EULEX and KFOR, with little improvvements.

It seems to be hard to understand for a European that you simply cannot bring democracy, human rights, law and basic standards to a society which is ruled by mafia clans, and the only law to be obeyed is loyalty towards the clan leader, may it be in Kosovo or in Afghanistan.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

sj,
I am sure that you don't represent the average Serbian opinion. Pointing to financial education while pushing for the use of force, not only is moronic but also contradictory. Also suggesting that somehow Albanians are inferior and should be treated as animals (by force) is as racist as it can be. But judging from your reply , I am not sure you understand it.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Brandon, 18 October 2013 17:23)
I only speak for myself and not the average Serb. The problem I have here is that in today’s society if you speak the truth it’s termed as racists to shut all critics so that people don’t feel inferior. I hate to say it but a spade is still a spade.
An education is a trade learnt at University nothing more and nothing less – it is not a magic wand to see through rose coloured glasses. It is through experience that I have learnt that some people require rule by brutal force and others are no better than animals.
Albanians have a system of revenge killings in the 21 century, so how do you deal with these people? The EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years and all EU reports show that nothing is working, no real democracy, no respect for human rights, judicial/police corruption rampant. Why do you think Brussels is pushing for these agreements between Belgrade and Pristina? They want to get out – Albanians are a financial millstone around their necks.
How long do you think the US would put up with the Albanians before using live rounds on them????????????

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

" protection of minorities"

Hahaha.Do albos know the definition of the above?Albos are all a bunch of hypocrites of the worst kind.I do recall their comments on the LGBT parade in Belgrade.

sj

pre 10 godina

(Brandon, 17 October 2013 21:05)

This is a Serbian-based media group so if you don’t like then go off to your Albanian media website and whinge there. However, what part is it racists? In early 2012 the EU’s Audit office issued its report on Kosovo – it was scathing in that after billions of Euros spent nothing has changed. You have a judiciary that is corrupt and loyal to its clan groups, you have a police force that “sits in their cars and only issue infringement notices and nothing else” . The office also commented on the level of corruption within the Pristina administration.
And now this report “Priština has made progress in the normalization of relations …, but there are serious problems…”. In effect this means that after 14 years of guided democracy, hand holding the judiciary, police and administration nothing has changed.
There is only one way of dealing with the Albanians and that’s with force – hey, your people still have revenge killings in the 21 century. This is stone age practice.

Navi

pre 10 godina

The main issue is that it's not a country and won't join the EU. It's prevented from joining with Albania too. Dead end for Kosovo.

Momir

pre 10 godina

And what about the constant violence against Serbs and other minorities? How many more unsolved crimes to happen in order to divert the attention of the EU that Kosovo is far from European standards.

sj

pre 10 godina

its only ever going to be a fantasy of yours sj, you'll never live to see it happen. In the meantime, we'll carry on living in your beloved Kosmet
(Nikolle, 18 October 2013 10:29)

Here is something for you to ponder. On Tuesday this week Obama made a statement that could not have been clearer even to the simplest of people like you.
“we have to lift the ceiling so that we can borrow more money to pay our debts”. They are borrowing to pay for debt??????? Its now 16.7 trillion and by end of December it will hit the 17 trillion mark.
Prior to the 1930s great depression the UK held all the money. By 1932 the US became the world banker as it had all the cash. Today its handed that burden over to china and that is why we have China, Russia and Japan asking to move away from the US dollar.
You Albos will be looking at Albania for accommodation because the US will not help you.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

What is notable in this report, or the quoted extracts that are in the B92 article, is that Kosovo suffers from the same problems as all other Balkan countries. Absence of rule of law, corruption, nepotism and 'gay bashing' are widespread across the region including in the countries that have already joined the EU. Ultimately, all countries are judged on economic competence or at least a perception of such and if this meets with the approval of the Brussels mafia then the road to membership is much smoother. If eradicating corruption completely were either a condition for acquiring membership or retaining it we would have a very small union indeed.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry dear, but there is some inconsistency‎ between you and the CE of B92 forums sj who has already shown with brilliant economic and financial analysis that the EU is broke and has run out of cash. Somebody who is broke and has run out of cash cannot have spent billions!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2013 04:18)

Have you been into the cooking sherry? Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?

Danilo

pre 10 godina

Albanians have a system of revenge killings in the 21 century
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All Albanians? really? How many Albanians do you know.

Brandon

pre 10 godina

So are we to reach the same conclusion with what Serbs did in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo? The worst acts since WW2.... . The nations can not be judged by neither their worst nor their best day. It's hypocritical to stand here and point to the flaws in Kosovo's new democracy, when your nation played a significant role in instilling those flaws through colonial practices and later through destruction and ethnic cleaning.
But even more importantly your point of view put a stop to any form of communication between us. Because as long as you only talk my dear neighbor, I can always reply to you. But if you act upon, you are leaving me no choice. And your language has lead us to war before. That's why I am grateful you don't represent the average Serb... .

sj

pre 10 godina

All Albanians? really? How many Albanians do you know.
(Danilo, 19 October 2013 14:40)
When you read articles in Australian newspapers on revenge killings in an Albanian village where people cannot leave their house for fear of being killed by their neighbour then you don’t need to know anyone.
There are about 10 000 living in Australia – when I have the time I’ll post you details of how your lot behaved when they were flown out here in 1999 to be “saved from the Serbs”. Rapes, bank robberies, burglaries shop lifting etc and they were only here for a couple of month. Our government returned every one of them. Tells you a lot about Albanians.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

its funny what you've been reduced to sj, basically advocating a violent solution. the reason why you've been reduced to this, is because you're feeling impotent, basically Kosova is gone from Serbia (the North is an issue no doubt) and out of frustration, you're writing these things. face it sunshine, your so called answer to the Albanain 'problem', isn't going to happen, so enjoy fantasising about it

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry, dear, but you asked the question about the difference between you and the other poster who is the CE of B92 forums sj. It's not my fault if that's a bizarre question to ask.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 22 October 2013 04:53)
Is there any oxygen on your planet? Who are you talking about? What does P.S. stand for? You sound as if you have split personalities and a few are trying to get out.

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 17 October 2013 15:57)
First of all Serbia proper is far ahead of Kosovo to start with so it’s like comparing apples with oranges. In addition, the EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years holding the Albanians hand with no change at all after all this time.
If the Albanians were carrying on in the US like they are doing in Kosovo, how long would it take for the local US authorities to use bullets? Two or three weeks?
They would open fire with live rounds on your lot without hesitation.

icj1

pre 10 godina

The EU has been in Kosovo for 14 years and all EU reports show that nothing is working, no real democracy, no respect for human rights, judicial/police corruption rampant.
(sj, 18 October 2013 23:30)

Ok, finally got it... Sorry for being so slow to understand your brilliant analysis. So that means that Kosovo should happily go under Serbia again, because Serbia and only Serbia with its vast financial and human resources can make Kosovo work, built a real democracy there with respect for human right and with a judicial/police free of corruption. Indeed, we see that all of the above works in Serbia already...
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How long do you think the US would put up with the Albanians before using live rounds on them???…??
(sj, 18 October 2013 23:30)

Longer than Serbs for sure... that's the whole point :) You see dear... everything is relative. Making absolute statements means nothing - you need to compare to the alternative.

sj

pre 10 godina

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 19 October 2013 04:08)

Some advice lay off the cooking sherry. Your posting are getting more and more bizarre to the point where you only can understand them. Are you sure you’re not Leonard?

icj1

pre 10 godina

Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?
(sj, 18 October 2013 10:50)

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

Who is “you and the CE of B92 forums sj”?
(sj, 18 October 2013 10:50)

Sorry, don't get the question... you is you. There is also another sj who is the CE of B92 forums who does not agree with you because that other sj has performed some excellent analysis to show that the EU does not have any cash let alone billions to spend in Kosovo as you are claiming.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 19 October 2013 04:08)

Some advice lay off the cooking sherry. Your posting are getting more and more bizarre to the point where you only can understand them. Are you sure you’re not Leonard?
(sj, 21 October 2013 10:03)

Sorry, dear, but you asked the question about the difference between you and the other poster who is the CE of B92 forums sj. It's not my fault if that's a bizarre question to ask.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 10 godina

When you read articles in Australian newspapers on revenge killings in an Albanian village where people cannot leave their house for fear of being killed by their neighbour then you don’t need to know anyone.
(sj, 21 October 2013 10:38)

I thought you only use trusted sources like Malaysian newspapers and not sources from the evil Western countries which have committed what the Serbian Orthodox Church considers a sin: i.e. recognizing Kosovo...