Brian
pre 10 godina
Why would ksf need to be in the north when pristina appoints the Serb police commanders? When all Serb police are employees of pristina and under pristina control?
Monday, 07.10.2013.
14:24
Issues affecting the regularity of local elections must be resolved in Brussels as soon as possible, says Government General Secretary Veljko Odalović.
Izvor: Tanjug
pre 10 godina
Why would ksf need to be in the north when pristina appoints the Serb police commanders? When all Serb police are employees of pristina and under pristina control?
pre 10 godina
So autonomous police, legislative local authority, no KSF in the north, and links to Belgrade. You want to explain where you think Serbs gave up everything or is your answer the two or three Albanian "border" guards that will stand around and make it look like Pristina is in charge while life in the north goes on as usual?
(Daniel, 10 October 2013 00:54)
I'm not sure where the problem is... According to Kosovo's Constitution, local communities can manage their own local affairs. So local authorities in the North are in charge of local affairs in the North, as it should be. Pristina is in charge of national affairs like the example you gave about the border controls, but obviously border guards have no say over the life of a border town. And that's the case in Kosovo, Serbia and everywhere in the world. Border guards's jurisdiction is the border line only, not control of the communities living close to the border. Locally elected officials control their local communities, regardless of whether they are - at the border or anywhere else.
Just to help your understanding... El Paso is city at the border between US and Mexico. US Federal Customs officers control the border; but the El Paso Police Department controls the city. So everything you described is normal and makes perfect sense.
pre 10 godina
The police are not autonomous. Pristina appoints the commander! If pristina appoints the commander and they abide by pristina rules who are the police autonomous from? There is no legislative authority outside of what pristina says the csm can legislate. It's not even legislating it's regulating and no regulation can fall outside pristina law. You have all the rules already established and there is no special rules or autonomy for Serb areas. This is not ahtisaari this is Brussels and there is not autonomy.
pre 10 godina
Why is Serbia promoting so strongly Serbs voting on ballots with the republic of Kosovo central elections commission logo?
Because by voting they will hopefully strengthen their position in Kosovo and maybe getting normal human rights that everyone living there should have but doesnt have. This has nothing to do with the ballot nor that Serbia is somehow recognizing your independence. If Serbia is the biggest supporter then why hasn´t Serbia recognized Kosovo independent, did you ever ask yourself that question?Why doesnt Serbia remove kosovo from its constitution if thats the case?
pre 10 godina
The fact is that we picked 3 names and you HAD to appoint one of them, do you really think that Pristina wouldve chosen a serb if they didnt have to?We gave you orders and you obeyed just like you use to obey orders from serbs. Remember Rankovic.
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Brian Let's go over this very slowly so you won't be confused ok? First, he's the head of the police in the north, which means police, who will be over 97% Serb, will operate under his command. Second, he's already been suspended twice by Albanian KPS because he refused to follow their orders and worked with Serbia. Now he's the district chief and can do what he wants. Third, those "ceremonial roles" you like to think are given basically give autonomy to the Serb municipalities. I have no idea where you're coming up with this idea that Kosovo Serbs are in any way under the control or authority of Pristina. They have extensive competencies given to them by the Ahtisaari Plan, which your precious government approved, and they now have legislative and institutional autonomy in an Assembly of Muncipalities, which Albanians also approved.
So autonomous police, legislative local authority, no KSF in the north, and links to Belgrade. You want to explain where you think Serbs gave up everything or is your answer the two or three Albanian "border" guards that will stand around and make it look like Pristina is in charge while life in the north goes on as usual?
Expats think the silliest things :)
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Laison officer is just a euphemism! Look at dejan paviceic's duties! His job. He is the ambassador to Kosovo from Serbia. Serbia just said he can't be called an ambassador because Kosovo hasn't been removed from serbias constitution yet but all his duties and his job reflects that he is serbias ambassador to Kosovo. Pristina chose the Serb police chief and then pristina appointed an Albanian to be the Serbs deputy to the Serb pristina picked! Note how belgrade did not choose the Serb police chief or how an election wasn't held. direct appointment by pristina of their own Serb. He works for Albanians not Serbs. Serbia also has established customs on the border and has border guards there. BA is wrong and Serbia is the most strident recognizer of Kosovo independence. Why is Serbia promoting so strongly Serbs voting on ballots with the republic of Kosovo central elections commission logo?
pre 10 godina
I am surprised, but quite happy Serbia is allowing Roma as part of its government.
(Marko K., 7 October 2013 16:42)
I didn't realize Odalovic was a Gypsy. Good for Serbia!
pre 10 godina
Please show me a link where it says that Dejan Pavicevic is an ambassador and not a Liasion officer.
(Daniel, 8 October 2013 20:32)
You know how the saying goes... if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
But if it makes you happy, we can certainly say that Dejan is a not a duck, even though it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck.
P.S. If you did not get it, just replace "duck" with "ambassador" :)
pre 10 godina
BA seems to have totally misinterpreted in every way the Brussels agreement! There is nothing that jeopardizes total pristina control of every municipality and the community of serb municipalities has no power to create laws that don't follow pristina law and pristina appointed the Serb police commander and controls entirely the police of northern josoovo and will control ultimately all healthcare and education too. Serbia and it's ambassador to Kosovo dejan pavicevic are working for eu membership and abolished all Serbian autonomy in Kosovo and all Belgrade institutions.
(Brian, 8 October 2013 05:06)
Please show me a link where it says that Dejan Pavicevic is an ambassador and not a Liasion officer. Then look up the meaning of the word liasion officer. And you have no power whatsoever in the north and you had nothing to say about the police commander. We chose 3 names and you HAD to accept one of them.
pre 10 godina
Being told I've misinterpreted something by Brian, who consistently believes Serbia has recognized Kosovo, that Pristina has total control over the situation, and that Belgrade sent an "ambassador" to Pristina, doesn't make me lose much sleep at night. Nor does it convince me I've any less understanding of the situation than some keyboard expat writing under a Western name does :)
pre 10 godina
BA seems to have totally misinterpreted in every way the Brussels agreement! There is nothing that jeopardizes total pristina control of every municipality and the community of serb municipalities has no power to create laws that don't follow pristina law and pristina appointed the Serb police commander and controls entirely the police of northern josoovo and will control ultimately all healthcare and education too. Serbia and it's ambassador to Kosovo dejan pavicevic are working for eu membership and abolished all Serbian autonomy in Kosovo and all Belgrade institutions.
pre 10 godina
Marlin,
Yes I have biases, that's why I very often refrain from expressing my opinions on this issue. I would rather converse than state an affirmative opinion.
You can not compare Kosovo under Yugoslavia with the independent Kosovo. Different entities ,different power structure.
pre 10 godina
and, which are those 6 additional municipalities you are referring? please, lets hear tho joke of the day!
(the truth, 7 October 2013 18:49)
Novo Brdo and Strpce, and the ones Ahtisaari carved out and the ones Feith empowered:
Gracanica, Ranilug, Klokot, and Partes.
Might as well throw in Dragas if the Gorani follow up on their wish to get on board. That makes 11.
If you pay attention to what's been happening over the last few years, you'd be less likely to laugh :)
pre 10 godina
brandon, are you suggesting that kosovo is a pluralist society?
is it more or less pluralist now compared to 20 years ago?
is it more or less pluralist than its neighbours from former yugoslavia?
perhaps you might reveal a bit of your bias, and as such put your whole rebuttal in question, as it was primarily based upon the notion of makeing non-biased descisions.
as far as the numbers show, kosovo has become more and more of a monoethnic land, with fewer and fewer minorities sticking around.
pre 10 godina
The "young Europeans" know better than anyone that if all Kosovo Serbs vote the way they want in these elections, they will vote to maintain close ties with Belgrade, making this Serbian Assembly as close to RS as possible. Albanians are scared they'll end up losing complete control over 6 more municipalities in addition to the 4 they never and will never control. That's why they want to ban Serb officials from coming, prevent IDPs from voting, and force as many Kosovo Serbs as possible to vote for and support that puppet Slobodan Petrovic's party. They negotiated themselves into a corner in April and are now scrambling to scuttle the whole election. They may ultimately want to control these municipalities, but if they can't, they'll be equally happy with an electoral boycott. What they DON'T want, are free and fair elections because it will show how little authority and legitimacy they actually have over the Serb communities.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 7 October 2013 16:48)
and, which are those 6 additional municipalities you are referring? please, lets hear tho joke of the day!
pre 10 godina
As usual, the 'young Europeans' are very creative when it comes to dubious things.
(Comm. Parrison, 7 October 2013 15:19)
The "young Europeans" know better than anyone that if all Kosovo Serbs vote the way they want in these elections, they will vote to maintain close ties with Belgrade, making this Serbian Assembly as close to RS as possible. Albanians are scared they'll end up losing complete control over 6 more municipalities in addition to the 4 they never and will never control. That's why they want to ban Serb officials from coming, prevent IDPs from voting, and force as many Kosovo Serbs as possible to vote for and support that puppet Slobodan Petrovic's party. They negotiated themselves into a corner in April and are now scrambling to scuttle the whole election. They may ultimately want to control these municipalities, but if they can't, they'll be equally happy with an electoral boycott. What they DON'T want, are free and fair elections because it will show how little authority and legitimacy they actually have over the Serb communities.
pre 10 godina
Comm. Parrison,
Are you suggesting that Kosovo Albanians are unable to govern democratically, and live in a pluralist society? If so, doesn't your small sample make your hypothesis totally inconclusive and biased. Reaching conclusions before the story take place, it's a great way to make mistakes. You were saying the same things before Albanian electiones, but they were deemed fair and democratic by the international institutions. Obviously that is not to say, that they will always be that way. But being biased will over and over prove you wrong.
pre 10 godina
I am surprised, but quite happy Serbia is allowing Roma as part of its government.
pre 10 godina
The Central Electoral Commission now has control over everything and is designing the future elections in a most immediate manner and this can significantly contribute to their regularity or irregularity, Odalović said.
Sorry, does anyone with a sane mind really expects fair, regular, and democratic elections when some Kosovo institution is responsible for the organization?
How 'elections' in Kosovo work the world and international observers saw last year when Kosovo institutions were responsible for it, for the first time: Fraud, fakes, manipulated election lists, double voting, voter intimidation, bought votes, everything you can imagine. As usual, the 'young Europeans' are very creative when it comes to dubious things.
pre 10 godina
I very much doubt that it is as simple as this guy talks...."Dacic will go to Kosovo to tell Serbs to vote...." He very likely will tell Serbs in northern Kosovo that Kosovo "is Serbia".....which will go against Brussell agreement.....
pre 10 godina
I very much doubt that it is as simple as this guy talks...."Dacic will go to Kosovo to tell Serbs to vote...." He very likely will tell Serbs in northern Kosovo that Kosovo "is Serbia".....which will go against Brussell agreement.....
pre 10 godina
I am surprised, but quite happy Serbia is allowing Roma as part of its government.
pre 10 godina
As usual, the 'young Europeans' are very creative when it comes to dubious things.
(Comm. Parrison, 7 October 2013 15:19)
The "young Europeans" know better than anyone that if all Kosovo Serbs vote the way they want in these elections, they will vote to maintain close ties with Belgrade, making this Serbian Assembly as close to RS as possible. Albanians are scared they'll end up losing complete control over 6 more municipalities in addition to the 4 they never and will never control. That's why they want to ban Serb officials from coming, prevent IDPs from voting, and force as many Kosovo Serbs as possible to vote for and support that puppet Slobodan Petrovic's party. They negotiated themselves into a corner in April and are now scrambling to scuttle the whole election. They may ultimately want to control these municipalities, but if they can't, they'll be equally happy with an electoral boycott. What they DON'T want, are free and fair elections because it will show how little authority and legitimacy they actually have over the Serb communities.
pre 10 godina
The Central Electoral Commission now has control over everything and is designing the future elections in a most immediate manner and this can significantly contribute to their regularity or irregularity, Odalović said.
Sorry, does anyone with a sane mind really expects fair, regular, and democratic elections when some Kosovo institution is responsible for the organization?
How 'elections' in Kosovo work the world and international observers saw last year when Kosovo institutions were responsible for it, for the first time: Fraud, fakes, manipulated election lists, double voting, voter intimidation, bought votes, everything you can imagine. As usual, the 'young Europeans' are very creative when it comes to dubious things.
pre 10 godina
Comm. Parrison,
Are you suggesting that Kosovo Albanians are unable to govern democratically, and live in a pluralist society? If so, doesn't your small sample make your hypothesis totally inconclusive and biased. Reaching conclusions before the story take place, it's a great way to make mistakes. You were saying the same things before Albanian electiones, but they were deemed fair and democratic by the international institutions. Obviously that is not to say, that they will always be that way. But being biased will over and over prove you wrong.
pre 10 godina
The "young Europeans" know better than anyone that if all Kosovo Serbs vote the way they want in these elections, they will vote to maintain close ties with Belgrade, making this Serbian Assembly as close to RS as possible. Albanians are scared they'll end up losing complete control over 6 more municipalities in addition to the 4 they never and will never control. That's why they want to ban Serb officials from coming, prevent IDPs from voting, and force as many Kosovo Serbs as possible to vote for and support that puppet Slobodan Petrovic's party. They negotiated themselves into a corner in April and are now scrambling to scuttle the whole election. They may ultimately want to control these municipalities, but if they can't, they'll be equally happy with an electoral boycott. What they DON'T want, are free and fair elections because it will show how little authority and legitimacy they actually have over the Serb communities.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 7 October 2013 16:48)
and, which are those 6 additional municipalities you are referring? please, lets hear tho joke of the day!
pre 10 godina
BA seems to have totally misinterpreted in every way the Brussels agreement! There is nothing that jeopardizes total pristina control of every municipality and the community of serb municipalities has no power to create laws that don't follow pristina law and pristina appointed the Serb police commander and controls entirely the police of northern josoovo and will control ultimately all healthcare and education too. Serbia and it's ambassador to Kosovo dejan pavicevic are working for eu membership and abolished all Serbian autonomy in Kosovo and all Belgrade institutions.
(Brian, 8 October 2013 05:06)
Please show me a link where it says that Dejan Pavicevic is an ambassador and not a Liasion officer. Then look up the meaning of the word liasion officer. And you have no power whatsoever in the north and you had nothing to say about the police commander. We chose 3 names and you HAD to accept one of them.
pre 10 godina
brandon, are you suggesting that kosovo is a pluralist society?
is it more or less pluralist now compared to 20 years ago?
is it more or less pluralist than its neighbours from former yugoslavia?
perhaps you might reveal a bit of your bias, and as such put your whole rebuttal in question, as it was primarily based upon the notion of makeing non-biased descisions.
as far as the numbers show, kosovo has become more and more of a monoethnic land, with fewer and fewer minorities sticking around.
pre 10 godina
Please show me a link where it says that Dejan Pavicevic is an ambassador and not a Liasion officer.
(Daniel, 8 October 2013 20:32)
You know how the saying goes... if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
But if it makes you happy, we can certainly say that Dejan is a not a duck, even though it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck.
P.S. If you did not get it, just replace "duck" with "ambassador" :)
pre 10 godina
and, which are those 6 additional municipalities you are referring? please, lets hear tho joke of the day!
(the truth, 7 October 2013 18:49)
Novo Brdo and Strpce, and the ones Ahtisaari carved out and the ones Feith empowered:
Gracanica, Ranilug, Klokot, and Partes.
Might as well throw in Dragas if the Gorani follow up on their wish to get on board. That makes 11.
If you pay attention to what's been happening over the last few years, you'd be less likely to laugh :)
pre 10 godina
Marlin,
Yes I have biases, that's why I very often refrain from expressing my opinions on this issue. I would rather converse than state an affirmative opinion.
You can not compare Kosovo under Yugoslavia with the independent Kosovo. Different entities ,different power structure.
pre 10 godina
BA seems to have totally misinterpreted in every way the Brussels agreement! There is nothing that jeopardizes total pristina control of every municipality and the community of serb municipalities has no power to create laws that don't follow pristina law and pristina appointed the Serb police commander and controls entirely the police of northern josoovo and will control ultimately all healthcare and education too. Serbia and it's ambassador to Kosovo dejan pavicevic are working for eu membership and abolished all Serbian autonomy in Kosovo and all Belgrade institutions.
pre 10 godina
Being told I've misinterpreted something by Brian, who consistently believes Serbia has recognized Kosovo, that Pristina has total control over the situation, and that Belgrade sent an "ambassador" to Pristina, doesn't make me lose much sleep at night. Nor does it convince me I've any less understanding of the situation than some keyboard expat writing under a Western name does :)
pre 10 godina
I am surprised, but quite happy Serbia is allowing Roma as part of its government.
(Marko K., 7 October 2013 16:42)
I didn't realize Odalovic was a Gypsy. Good for Serbia!
pre 10 godina
Laison officer is just a euphemism! Look at dejan paviceic's duties! His job. He is the ambassador to Kosovo from Serbia. Serbia just said he can't be called an ambassador because Kosovo hasn't been removed from serbias constitution yet but all his duties and his job reflects that he is serbias ambassador to Kosovo. Pristina chose the Serb police chief and then pristina appointed an Albanian to be the Serbs deputy to the Serb pristina picked! Note how belgrade did not choose the Serb police chief or how an election wasn't held. direct appointment by pristina of their own Serb. He works for Albanians not Serbs. Serbia also has established customs on the border and has border guards there. BA is wrong and Serbia is the most strident recognizer of Kosovo independence. Why is Serbia promoting so strongly Serbs voting on ballots with the republic of Kosovo central elections commission logo?
pre 10 godina
The fact is that we picked 3 names and you HAD to appoint one of them, do you really think that Pristina wouldve chosen a serb if they didnt have to?We gave you orders and you obeyed just like you use to obey orders from serbs. Remember Rankovic.
pre 10 godina
The police are not autonomous. Pristina appoints the commander! If pristina appoints the commander and they abide by pristina rules who are the police autonomous from? There is no legislative authority outside of what pristina says the csm can legislate. It's not even legislating it's regulating and no regulation can fall outside pristina law. You have all the rules already established and there is no special rules or autonomy for Serb areas. This is not ahtisaari this is Brussels and there is not autonomy.
pre 10 godina
So autonomous police, legislative local authority, no KSF in the north, and links to Belgrade. You want to explain where you think Serbs gave up everything or is your answer the two or three Albanian "border" guards that will stand around and make it look like Pristina is in charge while life in the north goes on as usual?
(Daniel, 10 October 2013 00:54)
I'm not sure where the problem is... According to Kosovo's Constitution, local communities can manage their own local affairs. So local authorities in the North are in charge of local affairs in the North, as it should be. Pristina is in charge of national affairs like the example you gave about the border controls, but obviously border guards have no say over the life of a border town. And that's the case in Kosovo, Serbia and everywhere in the world. Border guards's jurisdiction is the border line only, not control of the communities living close to the border. Locally elected officials control their local communities, regardless of whether they are - at the border or anywhere else.
Just to help your understanding... El Paso is city at the border between US and Mexico. US Federal Customs officers control the border; but the El Paso Police Department controls the city. So everything you described is normal and makes perfect sense.
pre 10 godina
Why would ksf need to be in the north when pristina appoints the Serb police commanders? When all Serb police are employees of pristina and under pristina control?
pre 10 godina
Why is Serbia promoting so strongly Serbs voting on ballots with the republic of Kosovo central elections commission logo?
Because by voting they will hopefully strengthen their position in Kosovo and maybe getting normal human rights that everyone living there should have but doesnt have. This has nothing to do with the ballot nor that Serbia is somehow recognizing your independence. If Serbia is the biggest supporter then why hasn´t Serbia recognized Kosovo independent, did you ever ask yourself that question?Why doesnt Serbia remove kosovo from its constitution if thats the case?
pre 10 godina
Brian Let's go over this very slowly so you won't be confused ok? First, he's the head of the police in the north, which means police, who will be over 97% Serb, will operate under his command. Second, he's already been suspended twice by Albanian KPS because he refused to follow their orders and worked with Serbia. Now he's the district chief and can do what he wants. Third, those "ceremonial roles" you like to think are given basically give autonomy to the Serb municipalities. I have no idea where you're coming up with this idea that Kosovo Serbs are in any way under the control or authority of Pristina. They have extensive competencies given to them by the Ahtisaari Plan, which your precious government approved, and they now have legislative and institutional autonomy in an Assembly of Muncipalities, which Albanians also approved.
So autonomous police, legislative local authority, no KSF in the north, and links to Belgrade. You want to explain where you think Serbs gave up everything or is your answer the two or three Albanian "border" guards that will stand around and make it look like Pristina is in charge while life in the north goes on as usual?
Expats think the silliest things :)
pre 10 godina
The Central Electoral Commission now has control over everything and is designing the future elections in a most immediate manner and this can significantly contribute to their regularity or irregularity, Odalović said.
Sorry, does anyone with a sane mind really expects fair, regular, and democratic elections when some Kosovo institution is responsible for the organization?
How 'elections' in Kosovo work the world and international observers saw last year when Kosovo institutions were responsible for it, for the first time: Fraud, fakes, manipulated election lists, double voting, voter intimidation, bought votes, everything you can imagine. As usual, the 'young Europeans' are very creative when it comes to dubious things.
pre 10 godina
I very much doubt that it is as simple as this guy talks...."Dacic will go to Kosovo to tell Serbs to vote...." He very likely will tell Serbs in northern Kosovo that Kosovo "is Serbia".....which will go against Brussell agreement.....
pre 10 godina
Comm. Parrison,
Are you suggesting that Kosovo Albanians are unable to govern democratically, and live in a pluralist society? If so, doesn't your small sample make your hypothesis totally inconclusive and biased. Reaching conclusions before the story take place, it's a great way to make mistakes. You were saying the same things before Albanian electiones, but they were deemed fair and democratic by the international institutions. Obviously that is not to say, that they will always be that way. But being biased will over and over prove you wrong.
pre 10 godina
As usual, the 'young Europeans' are very creative when it comes to dubious things.
(Comm. Parrison, 7 October 2013 15:19)
The "young Europeans" know better than anyone that if all Kosovo Serbs vote the way they want in these elections, they will vote to maintain close ties with Belgrade, making this Serbian Assembly as close to RS as possible. Albanians are scared they'll end up losing complete control over 6 more municipalities in addition to the 4 they never and will never control. That's why they want to ban Serb officials from coming, prevent IDPs from voting, and force as many Kosovo Serbs as possible to vote for and support that puppet Slobodan Petrovic's party. They negotiated themselves into a corner in April and are now scrambling to scuttle the whole election. They may ultimately want to control these municipalities, but if they can't, they'll be equally happy with an electoral boycott. What they DON'T want, are free and fair elections because it will show how little authority and legitimacy they actually have over the Serb communities.
pre 10 godina
The "young Europeans" know better than anyone that if all Kosovo Serbs vote the way they want in these elections, they will vote to maintain close ties with Belgrade, making this Serbian Assembly as close to RS as possible. Albanians are scared they'll end up losing complete control over 6 more municipalities in addition to the 4 they never and will never control. That's why they want to ban Serb officials from coming, prevent IDPs from voting, and force as many Kosovo Serbs as possible to vote for and support that puppet Slobodan Petrovic's party. They negotiated themselves into a corner in April and are now scrambling to scuttle the whole election. They may ultimately want to control these municipalities, but if they can't, they'll be equally happy with an electoral boycott. What they DON'T want, are free and fair elections because it will show how little authority and legitimacy they actually have over the Serb communities.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 7 October 2013 16:48)
and, which are those 6 additional municipalities you are referring? please, lets hear tho joke of the day!
pre 10 godina
brandon, are you suggesting that kosovo is a pluralist society?
is it more or less pluralist now compared to 20 years ago?
is it more or less pluralist than its neighbours from former yugoslavia?
perhaps you might reveal a bit of your bias, and as such put your whole rebuttal in question, as it was primarily based upon the notion of makeing non-biased descisions.
as far as the numbers show, kosovo has become more and more of a monoethnic land, with fewer and fewer minorities sticking around.
pre 10 godina
and, which are those 6 additional municipalities you are referring? please, lets hear tho joke of the day!
(the truth, 7 October 2013 18:49)
Novo Brdo and Strpce, and the ones Ahtisaari carved out and the ones Feith empowered:
Gracanica, Ranilug, Klokot, and Partes.
Might as well throw in Dragas if the Gorani follow up on their wish to get on board. That makes 11.
If you pay attention to what's been happening over the last few years, you'd be less likely to laugh :)
pre 10 godina
BA seems to have totally misinterpreted in every way the Brussels agreement! There is nothing that jeopardizes total pristina control of every municipality and the community of serb municipalities has no power to create laws that don't follow pristina law and pristina appointed the Serb police commander and controls entirely the police of northern josoovo and will control ultimately all healthcare and education too. Serbia and it's ambassador to Kosovo dejan pavicevic are working for eu membership and abolished all Serbian autonomy in Kosovo and all Belgrade institutions.
pre 10 godina
I am surprised, but quite happy Serbia is allowing Roma as part of its government.
pre 10 godina
BA seems to have totally misinterpreted in every way the Brussels agreement! There is nothing that jeopardizes total pristina control of every municipality and the community of serb municipalities has no power to create laws that don't follow pristina law and pristina appointed the Serb police commander and controls entirely the police of northern josoovo and will control ultimately all healthcare and education too. Serbia and it's ambassador to Kosovo dejan pavicevic are working for eu membership and abolished all Serbian autonomy in Kosovo and all Belgrade institutions.
(Brian, 8 October 2013 05:06)
Please show me a link where it says that Dejan Pavicevic is an ambassador and not a Liasion officer. Then look up the meaning of the word liasion officer. And you have no power whatsoever in the north and you had nothing to say about the police commander. We chose 3 names and you HAD to accept one of them.
pre 10 godina
The fact is that we picked 3 names and you HAD to appoint one of them, do you really think that Pristina wouldve chosen a serb if they didnt have to?We gave you orders and you obeyed just like you use to obey orders from serbs. Remember Rankovic.
pre 10 godina
Why is Serbia promoting so strongly Serbs voting on ballots with the republic of Kosovo central elections commission logo?
Because by voting they will hopefully strengthen their position in Kosovo and maybe getting normal human rights that everyone living there should have but doesnt have. This has nothing to do with the ballot nor that Serbia is somehow recognizing your independence. If Serbia is the biggest supporter then why hasn´t Serbia recognized Kosovo independent, did you ever ask yourself that question?Why doesnt Serbia remove kosovo from its constitution if thats the case?
pre 10 godina
Brian Let's go over this very slowly so you won't be confused ok? First, he's the head of the police in the north, which means police, who will be over 97% Serb, will operate under his command. Second, he's already been suspended twice by Albanian KPS because he refused to follow their orders and worked with Serbia. Now he's the district chief and can do what he wants. Third, those "ceremonial roles" you like to think are given basically give autonomy to the Serb municipalities. I have no idea where you're coming up with this idea that Kosovo Serbs are in any way under the control or authority of Pristina. They have extensive competencies given to them by the Ahtisaari Plan, which your precious government approved, and they now have legislative and institutional autonomy in an Assembly of Muncipalities, which Albanians also approved.
So autonomous police, legislative local authority, no KSF in the north, and links to Belgrade. You want to explain where you think Serbs gave up everything or is your answer the two or three Albanian "border" guards that will stand around and make it look like Pristina is in charge while life in the north goes on as usual?
Expats think the silliest things :)
pre 10 godina
Marlin,
Yes I have biases, that's why I very often refrain from expressing my opinions on this issue. I would rather converse than state an affirmative opinion.
You can not compare Kosovo under Yugoslavia with the independent Kosovo. Different entities ,different power structure.
pre 10 godina
Being told I've misinterpreted something by Brian, who consistently believes Serbia has recognized Kosovo, that Pristina has total control over the situation, and that Belgrade sent an "ambassador" to Pristina, doesn't make me lose much sleep at night. Nor does it convince me I've any less understanding of the situation than some keyboard expat writing under a Western name does :)
pre 10 godina
I am surprised, but quite happy Serbia is allowing Roma as part of its government.
(Marko K., 7 October 2013 16:42)
I didn't realize Odalovic was a Gypsy. Good for Serbia!
pre 10 godina
Laison officer is just a euphemism! Look at dejan paviceic's duties! His job. He is the ambassador to Kosovo from Serbia. Serbia just said he can't be called an ambassador because Kosovo hasn't been removed from serbias constitution yet but all his duties and his job reflects that he is serbias ambassador to Kosovo. Pristina chose the Serb police chief and then pristina appointed an Albanian to be the Serbs deputy to the Serb pristina picked! Note how belgrade did not choose the Serb police chief or how an election wasn't held. direct appointment by pristina of their own Serb. He works for Albanians not Serbs. Serbia also has established customs on the border and has border guards there. BA is wrong and Serbia is the most strident recognizer of Kosovo independence. Why is Serbia promoting so strongly Serbs voting on ballots with the republic of Kosovo central elections commission logo?
pre 10 godina
Please show me a link where it says that Dejan Pavicevic is an ambassador and not a Liasion officer.
(Daniel, 8 October 2013 20:32)
You know how the saying goes... if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
But if it makes you happy, we can certainly say that Dejan is a not a duck, even though it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck.
P.S. If you did not get it, just replace "duck" with "ambassador" :)
pre 10 godina
The police are not autonomous. Pristina appoints the commander! If pristina appoints the commander and they abide by pristina rules who are the police autonomous from? There is no legislative authority outside of what pristina says the csm can legislate. It's not even legislating it's regulating and no regulation can fall outside pristina law. You have all the rules already established and there is no special rules or autonomy for Serb areas. This is not ahtisaari this is Brussels and there is not autonomy.
pre 10 godina
So autonomous police, legislative local authority, no KSF in the north, and links to Belgrade. You want to explain where you think Serbs gave up everything or is your answer the two or three Albanian "border" guards that will stand around and make it look like Pristina is in charge while life in the north goes on as usual?
(Daniel, 10 October 2013 00:54)
I'm not sure where the problem is... According to Kosovo's Constitution, local communities can manage their own local affairs. So local authorities in the North are in charge of local affairs in the North, as it should be. Pristina is in charge of national affairs like the example you gave about the border controls, but obviously border guards have no say over the life of a border town. And that's the case in Kosovo, Serbia and everywhere in the world. Border guards's jurisdiction is the border line only, not control of the communities living close to the border. Locally elected officials control their local communities, regardless of whether they are - at the border or anywhere else.
Just to help your understanding... El Paso is city at the border between US and Mexico. US Federal Customs officers control the border; but the El Paso Police Department controls the city. So everything you described is normal and makes perfect sense.
pre 10 godina
Why would ksf need to be in the north when pristina appoints the Serb police commanders? When all Serb police are employees of pristina and under pristina control?
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