Limaj again acquitted of war crimes charges

Pristina, making a mockery of Europe's 'Rule of Law'. It's a good thing for Pristina that their sponsors in Brussels, Paris & London are also quite happy to turn a blind eye, but then again 'Standards before Status' became 'Status before Standards' and both have failed. Spectacularly.

If ICTY found Limaj not guilty, why would EULEX waste time twice on same charges??? Limaj aka Commander Steel was a freedom fighter and not a war criminal.

This is why there will never be peace between us! How the hell can people move on with there lives and try build a better future, when we have idiots who know nothing about the Balkans! And only care about there own and there pay masters personal agendas, the day the people in Balkans realize they need to get rid of there leaders the better! Zagreb, Belgrade, Podgorica, Sarajevo and the rest dont give a one flying f*uck what happens to us! Only there wallets! x

Fat Limaj aquitted by an albanian court! Since not a single albanian has been convicted, ever, by other albanians for the many crimes against serbs the aquittal was expected. I wonder how many kidneys Fat Limaj had to offer the judge to be given a free pass out of jail. God will punish this taliban.

(MikeC, 18 September 2013 18:03)

God the all mighty has already punished the animals who commited crimes in Kosova. Reamember one of them was an president ?

Fatmir Limaj is an hero and has been aquitted both in Haag and in Prishtina. No doubt that he is innocent. Or maybee he should be sent to Belgrade to have an fair trial ?

the icty found him not guilty. how long did they try to investigate him? i'd be they spent far less time and energy on him than on seselj. why is he not yet been found to be not guilty for lack of evidence as was limaj

Fat Limaj aquitted by an albanian court! Since not a single albanian has been convicted, ever, by other albanians for the many crimes against serbs the aquittal was expected. I wonder how many kidneys Fat Limaj had to offer the judge to be given a free pass out of jail. God will punish this taliban.
(MikeC, 18 September 2013 18:03)

@MikeC,
Thank god we got you to set things strait as per your liking. Good luck with your fantasy world of yours, and don't forget to check IJF web site on who was the world champion in Rio, Brasil!

One more proof there's 'rule of law' in Kosovo - the rule of mafia law, where witnesses disappear or don't want to testify against the mafia bosses and criminals who turned into politicians.

Fatmir Limaj is an hero and has been aquitted both in Haag and in Prishtina. No doubt that he is innocent. Or maybee he should be sent to Belgrade to have an fair trial ?
(Demi, 18 September 2013 22:17)
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Being unable to convict due to wintneses "committing suicide" or lack of evidence due to it being destroyed is a far cry from finding this monster innocent.

@ned taylor, we have already said on more than one occasion, at least I have, that all sides committed crimes. I think this is an admission that Serbs have committed crimes too so you can stop asking that we announce this. Concentrate on the Albanians and Croatians because they have never admitted anything like it.
Even Serbian government as acknowledged this but the KLA government in Pristina and the government in Croatia have not.

the icty found him not guilty. how long did they try to investigate him? i'd be they spent far less time and energy on him than on seselj. why is he not yet been found to be not guilty for lack of evidence as was limaj
(cc, 18 September 2013 17:46)

because there may be evidence for seselj...

Sorry, but I fail to see the logical connection. If you have trial A and trial B and trial A decides that there is no sufficient evidence, why should trial B decide the same (unless trial B is using exactly the same evidence) ?!!!

That is like saying that because a person accused of robbery in Tonga was acquitted, then a person accused of robbery in Zimbabwe should also be acquitted :)

Limaj looks ugly. Like most Albanian KLA thugs.

Once you realize the evil and the horrendous deeds of the government on its own people; we can talk about those bad apples that didn't stay in line; on our side.
(J, 19 September 2013 16:04)
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Serbia did NOT wait for anyone else to admit to anything before they did and you know it so what are you babbling on about?
How about your side and the others do the same thing and admit your own crimes. Why do you have to wait till YOU'RE satisfied with an apology?

Now stop being a hypocrite and start admitting crimes and punishing them. Serbia sent quite a few people over to Hague while your side put them in government.
Don't start with false outrage. Your people are guilty of same things and your people killed young and old too and you know it.

My point was that Serbia admitted and we Serbs admit crimes were committed by our own. How about you stop trying to change the subject and admit your own crimes? By diverting to what you say was done is changing what my statement was about.

Hypocrites, all of you.

@Truth
Please explain what the hell the female champion in "1, yes just 1 of the 7" weight divisions in the Judo world championsips has anything to do with albanian terrorists and murdering war criminals that are found innocent by corrupt Albanian mafioso courts?
Albanians please stop your inbreading, it will only create more people like "Truth"

I can't believe that 'the truth' is trotting out the tired old nonsense about "our brave boys are freedom fighters and all of their lot are clearly war criminals'. I have no idea whether this man is guilty of the specific crimes attributed to him by many Serbs but as soon as I read the words 'freedom fighter' I immediately become suspicious and think that the person concerned must have perpetrated some dreadful acts or there would be no need for clowns like 'the truth' to spring to their defence so haplessly.

As to the case itself, it was always going to be difficult to secure a guilty verdict in a where the Hague had found otherwise and where the main witness had committed suicide. It should be noted by those complaining that Albanians had found their 'own' not guilty that international judges were part of the panel.

I'm still waiting for anyone from either side in this long ago conflict to concede that one of their own was a war criminal; want to put me out of my misery Ari or 'the truth'? That would really be a news story!!

"Limaj looks ugly. Like most Albanian KLA thugs.
(Navi, 19 September 2013 06:43)"

Yes ,because outer look is a great way to measure a man's dignity. You are hilarious.

Even Serbian government as acknowledged this but the KLA government in Pristina and the government in Croatia have not.
(Peggy, 19 September 2013 01:19)

Peggy when you and your fellow Serb stop equating the monstrosity of the crimes committed by, planned and organized by the Serb government war machine over its civilian population, with the undying support of the Serbs; we might talk about our bad apples. Get it through your head, your government ethnically cleansed 1 million of its own people. It killed months old babies and hid the remains of these crimes in Serbia. This was a well planned,well organized monstrosity backed by the average Serb, not only to rid Albanians out of Kosova but also hide such crimes. A government doing this to its own people. Once you realize the evil and the horrendous deeds of the government on its own people; we can talk about those bad apples that didn't stay in line; on our side.

Peggy: The "all sides committed crimes" is not the same as an unequivocal "our side committed WAR crimes and we are sorry". Whether others are sorry for their crimes is a matter for them, one can only deal with oneself. This type of moral equivalence is what causes the never ending downward spiral with one side or the other always looking for 'revenge' for a bygone act. I read an argument on this site today about the 6th and 7th centuries but not as a matter of historical debate but as if it had relevance to an incident that took place this week.

As with the inability to accept the misdeeds from one's own side the same applies to the notion that only your side has repented of its sins. This is nonsense. Stipe Mesic initiated attempts at mutual apologies for war crimes with what was then Serbia and Montenegro, albeit with limited success. He also gave evidence at The Hague that led to many right wing Croatians labelling him as a traitor.

I should point out that my comments are equally directed at all sides in the debate who refuse to accept the wrongdoings of their countrymen and women and are certainly not limited to Serbs. It is high time that Thaci accepted that war crimes were committed by the KLA, several of whose members have been convicted at The Hague. Maybe they too were simply 'freedom fighters'.........

"Serbia did NOT wait for anyone else to admit to anything before they did and you know it so what are you babbling on about? How about your side and the others do the same thing and admit your own crimes. Why do you have to wait till YOU'RE satisfied with an apology?"

- Quite simple. There hasnt been an official apology from your government. That basically means your state agrees with the murders of kids and women. Remember threre were Serb tanks in Kosova, not the other way around. As the perpetrator of agression the Serb gkvernment has the burden of apologizing officially to the civilians it killed based on a well institutionalized policy of death and destruction.

2. The Serbs are eager to put a huge equal sign to this and call it a day. That is just so you can remove the respobsability off of the Serb society. Things were not equal and the severity, scale, and monstrousity of crimes simply was not equal. This is a fact. I have yet to hear a Serb admit to this. Until this is done and understood, we cannot simply give the Serbs the satisfaction of feeling absolved by agreeing that everything was equal. No it was not equal. This is a fact. When your government officially recognizes this; we the average people can start to show you some understanding.

Peggy: The "all sides committed crimes" is not the same as an unequivocal "our side committed WAR crimes and we are sorry". Whether others are sorry for their crimes is a matter for them, one can only deal with oneself.
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What does all sides committed crimes then mean if it doesn't mean that the person saying it is saying that their side committed cries too?
By saying all sides committed crimes IS saying that yes my side did commit war crimes but it also says that the others did too.

Now I would be happy to hear the "all sides committed crimes" from the others but they won't even go as far as that.
So, please direct your request for admissions to them not us. I believe that I have admitted that my side committed crimes. Maybe not your terminology but nevertheless it is an admission.

You won't get even this from anyone else on the other side.

Pristina, making a mockery of Europe's 'Rule of Law'. It's a good thing for Pristina that their sponsors in Brussels, Paris & London are also quite happy to turn a blind eye, but then again 'Standards before Status' became 'Status before Standards' and both have failed. Spectacularly.

Fat Limaj aquitted by an albanian court! Since not a single albanian has been convicted, ever, by other albanians for the many crimes against serbs the aquittal was expected. I wonder how many kidneys Fat Limaj had to offer the judge to be given a free pass out of jail. God will punish this taliban.

If ICTY found Limaj not guilty, why would EULEX waste time twice on same charges??? Limaj aka Commander Steel was a freedom fighter and not a war criminal.

This is why there will never be peace between us! How the hell can people move on with there lives and try build a better future, when we have idiots who know nothing about the Balkans! And only care about there own and there pay masters personal agendas, the day the people in Balkans realize they need to get rid of there leaders the better! Zagreb, Belgrade, Podgorica, Sarajevo and the rest dont give a one flying f*uck what happens to us! Only there wallets! x

One more proof there's 'rule of law' in Kosovo - the rule of mafia law, where witnesses disappear or don't want to testify against the mafia bosses and criminals who turned into politicians.

the icty found him not guilty. how long did they try to investigate him? i'd be they spent far less time and energy on him than on seselj. why is he not yet been found to be not guilty for lack of evidence as was limaj

(MikeC, 18 September 2013 18:03)

God the all mighty has already punished the animals who commited crimes in Kosova. Reamember one of them was an president ?

Fatmir Limaj is an hero and has been aquitted both in Haag and in Prishtina. No doubt that he is innocent. Or maybee he should be sent to Belgrade to have an fair trial ?

Fatmir Limaj is an hero and has been aquitted both in Haag and in Prishtina. No doubt that he is innocent. Or maybee he should be sent to Belgrade to have an fair trial ?
(Demi, 18 September 2013 22:17)
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Being unable to convict due to wintneses "committing suicide" or lack of evidence due to it being destroyed is a far cry from finding this monster innocent.

@ned taylor, we have already said on more than one occasion, at least I have, that all sides committed crimes. I think this is an admission that Serbs have committed crimes too so you can stop asking that we announce this. Concentrate on the Albanians and Croatians because they have never admitted anything like it.
Even Serbian government as acknowledged this but the KLA government in Pristina and the government in Croatia have not.

@Truth
Please explain what the hell the female champion in "1, yes just 1 of the 7" weight divisions in the Judo world championsips has anything to do with albanian terrorists and murdering war criminals that are found innocent by corrupt Albanian mafioso courts?
Albanians please stop your inbreading, it will only create more people like "Truth"

I can't believe that 'the truth' is trotting out the tired old nonsense about "our brave boys are freedom fighters and all of their lot are clearly war criminals'. I have no idea whether this man is guilty of the specific crimes attributed to him by many Serbs but as soon as I read the words 'freedom fighter' I immediately become suspicious and think that the person concerned must have perpetrated some dreadful acts or there would be no need for clowns like 'the truth' to spring to their defence so haplessly.

As to the case itself, it was always going to be difficult to secure a guilty verdict in a where the Hague had found otherwise and where the main witness had committed suicide. It should be noted by those complaining that Albanians had found their 'own' not guilty that international judges were part of the panel.

I'm still waiting for anyone from either side in this long ago conflict to concede that one of their own was a war criminal; want to put me out of my misery Ari or 'the truth'? That would really be a news story!!

the icty found him not guilty. how long did they try to investigate him? i'd be they spent far less time and energy on him than on seselj. why is he not yet been found to be not guilty for lack of evidence as was limaj
(cc, 18 September 2013 17:46)

because there may be evidence for seselj...

Sorry, but I fail to see the logical connection. If you have trial A and trial B and trial A decides that there is no sufficient evidence, why should trial B decide the same (unless trial B is using exactly the same evidence) ?!!!

That is like saying that because a person accused of robbery in Tonga was acquitted, then a person accused of robbery in Zimbabwe should also be acquitted :)

Limaj looks ugly. Like most Albanian KLA thugs.

Even Serbian government as acknowledged this but the KLA government in Pristina and the government in Croatia have not.
(Peggy, 19 September 2013 01:19)

Peggy when you and your fellow Serb stop equating the monstrosity of the crimes committed by, planned and organized by the Serb government war machine over its civilian population, with the undying support of the Serbs; we might talk about our bad apples. Get it through your head, your government ethnically cleansed 1 million of its own people. It killed months old babies and hid the remains of these crimes in Serbia. This was a well planned,well organized monstrosity backed by the average Serb, not only to rid Albanians out of Kosova but also hide such crimes. A government doing this to its own people. Once you realize the evil and the horrendous deeds of the government on its own people; we can talk about those bad apples that didn't stay in line; on our side.

Fat Limaj aquitted by an albanian court! Since not a single albanian has been convicted, ever, by other albanians for the many crimes against serbs the aquittal was expected. I wonder how many kidneys Fat Limaj had to offer the judge to be given a free pass out of jail. God will punish this taliban.
(MikeC, 18 September 2013 18:03)

@MikeC,
Thank god we got you to set things strait as per your liking. Good luck with your fantasy world of yours, and don't forget to check IJF web site on who was the world champion in Rio, Brasil!

"Limaj looks ugly. Like most Albanian KLA thugs.
(Navi, 19 September 2013 06:43)"

Yes ,because outer look is a great way to measure a man's dignity. You are hilarious.

Once you realize the evil and the horrendous deeds of the government on its own people; we can talk about those bad apples that didn't stay in line; on our side.
(J, 19 September 2013 16:04)
=========================

Serbia did NOT wait for anyone else to admit to anything before they did and you know it so what are you babbling on about?
How about your side and the others do the same thing and admit your own crimes. Why do you have to wait till YOU'RE satisfied with an apology?

Now stop being a hypocrite and start admitting crimes and punishing them. Serbia sent quite a few people over to Hague while your side put them in government.
Don't start with false outrage. Your people are guilty of same things and your people killed young and old too and you know it.

My point was that Serbia admitted and we Serbs admit crimes were committed by our own. How about you stop trying to change the subject and admit your own crimes? By diverting to what you say was done is changing what my statement was about.

Hypocrites, all of you.

Peggy: The "all sides committed crimes" is not the same as an unequivocal "our side committed WAR crimes and we are sorry". Whether others are sorry for their crimes is a matter for them, one can only deal with oneself. This type of moral equivalence is what causes the never ending downward spiral with one side or the other always looking for 'revenge' for a bygone act. I read an argument on this site today about the 6th and 7th centuries but not as a matter of historical debate but as if it had relevance to an incident that took place this week.

As with the inability to accept the misdeeds from one's own side the same applies to the notion that only your side has repented of its sins. This is nonsense. Stipe Mesic initiated attempts at mutual apologies for war crimes with what was then Serbia and Montenegro, albeit with limited success. He also gave evidence at The Hague that led to many right wing Croatians labelling him as a traitor.

I should point out that my comments are equally directed at all sides in the debate who refuse to accept the wrongdoings of their countrymen and women and are certainly not limited to Serbs. It is high time that Thaci accepted that war crimes were committed by the KLA, several of whose members have been convicted at The Hague. Maybe they too were simply 'freedom fighters'.........

Peggy: The "all sides committed crimes" is not the same as an unequivocal "our side committed WAR crimes and we are sorry". Whether others are sorry for their crimes is a matter for them, one can only deal with oneself.
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What does all sides committed crimes then mean if it doesn't mean that the person saying it is saying that their side committed cries too?
By saying all sides committed crimes IS saying that yes my side did commit war crimes but it also says that the others did too.

Now I would be happy to hear the "all sides committed crimes" from the others but they won't even go as far as that.
So, please direct your request for admissions to them not us. I believe that I have admitted that my side committed crimes. Maybe not your terminology but nevertheless it is an admission.

You won't get even this from anyone else on the other side.

"Serbia did NOT wait for anyone else to admit to anything before they did and you know it so what are you babbling on about? How about your side and the others do the same thing and admit your own crimes. Why do you have to wait till YOU'RE satisfied with an apology?"

- Quite simple. There hasnt been an official apology from your government. That basically means your state agrees with the murders of kids and women. Remember threre were Serb tanks in Kosova, not the other way around. As the perpetrator of agression the Serb gkvernment has the burden of apologizing officially to the civilians it killed based on a well institutionalized policy of death and destruction.

2. The Serbs are eager to put a huge equal sign to this and call it a day. That is just so you can remove the respobsability off of the Serb society. Things were not equal and the severity, scale, and monstrousity of crimes simply was not equal. This is a fact. I have yet to hear a Serb admit to this. Until this is done and understood, we cannot simply give the Serbs the satisfaction of feeling absolved by agreeing that everything was equal. No it was not equal. This is a fact. When your government officially recognizes this; we the average people can start to show you some understanding.