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Friday, 06.09.2013.

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Serbian MFA reacts to incidents in Croatia

The Serbian Foreign Ministry says it "intervened verbally" with Croatian Ambassador to Serbia Gordan Markotić over the recent violence in Vukovar.

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Aleks

pre 10 godina

YOU ONLY PERSON THAT IS FAKE IS YOU ALEKS.
(azir, 12 September 2013 11:37)

Can you type any louder? How so? I am Serbian, I live in the US, and I am typing exactly what I am thinking and feeling. Your answer is quite stupid because it's simply a dumb emotional response with no thought or substance behind it. "Oh my mom is prettier than your mom"...or "Oh my dad is stronger than your dad"...yeah, your response is right on that level.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

"...Ian the from the fake UK..."

The UK Government should go to court and have this "fake UK" shut down immediately on the grounds of copyright violation. I mean, the nerve. Making a bootleg copy of an entire country.
(Huh??, 10 September 2013 09:53)

My apologies for posting that in the wrong context. I don't mean to come off as the UK being fake, I don't feel that way at all and that would be stupid to suggest something like that. 'From the fake UK' meaning his alias is fake. Ian from the UK coming off as some impartial citizen of the UK which I believe is a fake posting.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

We shouldn't resort to calling Ian from UK some dumb villager, illiterate, or otherwise. To me, these are kinds of individuals are not dumb. Quite to the contrary, they're pretty intelligent. That doesn't mean they use their intelligence in a smart way. There is a difference in how you use what you have. Then you have posters like AZIR on here who love him to death just because he fans the flames of hatred to AZIR's liking. Why I say Ian is of the worst humans there are is because they are fake, try to come off as something they are not, and quietly try to push an agenda of hate. I can deal with a poster who is Croatian or Albanian and posts their hatred for Serbs. I don't agree with them, but at least they are up front and honest about who they are and what they feel. It's not a hidden agenda.

Posters like Ian from the UK on the other hand come off as 'a 3rd party', or 'outside observer' and attempt to establish a "Well look at me, I'm not any of the ethnic groups and I can clearly see the Serbs are these guilty savages". It's an attempt to establish a view to everyone that even those on the outside completely agree with the Albanians, Croatians, Bosnian Muslims...(which many regular citizens don't). Even when clearly shown evidence of atrocities that were committed against Serbs, he is quick to post anti-Serb immediately with no acknowledgement...in fact, he goes into denial mode. This is a 3rd party observer? He is nothing but an inciter of hatred.

Roger7

pre 10 godina

Ian is just a young and arrogant kid from a small village in West Yorkshire.

He spends his time doing internet searches in hopes of appearing knowledgeable. His association with Willie and Roberto-the wanna be journalist-has only contributed to his childish vibrato and false sense of importance.

Huh??

pre 10 godina

"...Ian the from the fake UK..."

The UK Government should go to court and have this "fake UK" shut down immediately on the grounds of copyright violation. I mean, the nerve. Making a bootleg copy of an entire country.

azir

pre 10 godina

Ian,UK is one remarkable individual that clearly loves the truth and is never intimida

ted by persistant Serb attacks.

We both share appreciation and love for justice,honest and peace.

He's so good Serbs beg him to fight for their unjust cause.

Which he would never turn evil to do so..............

sj

pre 10 godina

I understand where Brussels is coming from on this issue. The EU has a policy and as a member it must be fulfilled so it’s up to the local authorities to carry out that policy. In other words Zagreb has to be given that chance to do exactly that. Brussels would only get involved as a last resort and as the Milanovic government has stated that multilingual signs have to be erected in areas where minorities live then it will happen and they will start using the court system if this continues.

Personally, I think this is the best move these Croats could have done for the Serb cause as it now shows that they had to take up arms against a fascist nation. We even have Franciscan monks leading those demonstrations – the same order that produced 600 war criminals after WW2. Well done Catholic Church, well done.

azir

pre 10 godina

Ian,UK is one remarkable individual that clearly loves the truth and is never intimida

ted by persistant Serb attacks.

We both share appreciation and love for justice,honest and peace.

He's so good Serbs beg him to fight for their unjust cause.

Which he would never turn evil to do so..............

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Apparently, all Serbs need for evidence is some blog on the internet so it should be very easy to provide them evidence for everything.
(icj1, 7 September 2013 20:45)
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And yet no matter how many times we ask you guys can't provide us with even that much as evidence of you being in Kosovo before Serbs came.
Funny thing.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

Nice off-topic rant, feel better now?
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2013 14:21)

Yes :) Thank you Ian. I guess when you have no way to deny anything you give a nice non-answer, and claim off-topic. Facts are facts. You're a bigot in every sense there is. I have no problem calling out Serbs when they deserve it, but christ brother, get off your one way street and do the same when Serbs are victim. That is on-topic, because you are a huge apologist for Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians and justify all crimes against Serbs...all of them. You're as horrible of a human as there is :)

JoorZahFrul

pre 10 godina

@azir

If you say so, it must be true. Same with Nikola Tesla... Now some say that he was a Croat. Let me try it. I'm Michael Jackson. Oh wait ... it didn't work :( Here's a link to the article if someone want's to know about Jasenovac and the Independent State of Croatia in II World war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Croats have overreacted. It's only an alphabet, it's no big deal. Croatia managed to beat off Serbian expansionist aggression on their country and now that they're a part of EU and NATO, their borders are completely secure. Totally wrong reaction by the Croats

justhetruth

pre 10 godina

to the Mike C i just like to tell you what i see everyday Croats are very hard working people and very success people also i meet a lots of hard working Serbians,Croats Lobby is very strong and they help each other when it comes giving job contracting in the construction field and i'm talking in millions of dollars i don't hear to much about them asking asylum or any social assistance as other ethnic groups.. and why is still so much hate down there i don't understand and feel bad for all the nation's in the balkan

give it up Ian

pre 10 godina

Ian,
Your problem is that you try to inform a bunch of ignorant bloodthirsty chetnicks on this forum.
It will not happen. Yes, some of the can now read and write but they're far from being able to comprehend what equality and compassion means.

What I find funny is that these chetnicks on one hand boast about their bravery and achievements in war but cry when someone speaks out against them.

If you're going to live by the sword then you should be ready to die by the sword and not go crying to your mamma when something doesn't go your way.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too [link]
(Aleks, 6 September 2013 23:24)

Of course we deny that based on a blog that I'll create now that says the opposite of the blog link that you provided. Apparently, all Serbs need for evidence is some blog on the internet so it should be very easy to provide them evidence for everything.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Ian the from the fake UK never misses a beat to put down Serbs. Never mind Tudjman and what he propagated, and never mind Jasenovac and the crimes Croats committed in WW2. He is a denier and blames Nikolic now. Yes, there you go. "Do you disagree with me"? Well Ian, ummm, YEAH! Do you disagree that Jasenovac happened? Do you disagree that Croatia dismissed all Serbs from government and prominent positions as they prepared to secede from Yugoslavia? Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too [link]

We know a biggot and moron when we see one Ian, and you surely are. You're perhaps the lowest grade of poster on here because you falsely claim "Ian from UK", claim you are an 'impartial' observer who just happens to have interest in learning about the break up of Yugoslavia, but are nothing more than an anti-Serb pusher. Either you are paid to post your garbage here, or are incredibly one of the dumbest humans there are. Either way, no problem, I'll agree with you :) Serbs did not die, Jasenovac is over blown, Serbian population miraculously increased in Croatia during WW2 (oh even sarcastically that's a hard one to type!), and Nikolic is responsible for all of the problems in Croatia. Croatians have done nothing! They loved Serbs and wanted to live in peace with them! Albanians too! The same Albanians who now clamor for a greater Albania with more Serb land. It's all the Serb's fault.
(Aleks, 6 September 2013 23:24)

Nice off-topic rant, feel better now?

sj

pre 10 godina

“The upheaval over the Serbian Cyrillic script inscriptions on public buildings, according to Standard (Austrian newspaper), represents an internal political fiasco for Croatia, with "far-reaching consequences."
I have said it many times before that there are elements in the EU and teh rest of teh western world that are fed up with the Croats and their Ustashi behaviour and these numbers have skyrocketed. It is becoming very clear that the Serbs had no alternative but fight against these Neanderthals.
Unfortunately this is Croatian culture at its best.

Luka, AU

pre 10 godina

I didn't realize people still paid any attention to Ian. You can't take a guy who puts "UK" after his name seriously. Does he truly think anyone believes he is "neutral"? An Englishman who uncontrollably posts everyday on a SERBIAN news site? By his daily posting pattern, I'd hazard to guess he's Albanian. He's probably as open about his true nationality in society as he is on here. To be honest, I don't blame him for wanting to hide what he really is.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

Ian the from the fake UK never misses a beat to put down Serbs. Never mind Tudjman and what he propagated, and never mind Jasenovac and the crimes Croats committed in WW2. He is a denier and blames Nikolic now. Yes, there you go. "Do you disagree with me"? Well Ian, ummm, YEAH! Do you disagree that Jasenovac happened? Do you disagree that Croatia dismissed all Serbs from government and prominent positions as they prepared to secede from Yugoslavia? Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1527

We know a biggot and moron when we see one Ian, and you surely are. You're perhaps the lowest grade of poster on here because you falsely claim "Ian from UK", claim you are an 'impartial' observer who just happens to have interest in learning about the break up of Yugoslavia, but are nothing more than an anti-Serb pusher. Either you are paid to post your garbage here, or are incredibly one of the dumbest humans there are. Either way, no problem, I'll agree with you :) Serbs did not die, Jasenovac is over blown, Serbian population miraculously increased in Croatia during WW2 (oh even sarcastically that's a hard one to type!), and Nikolic is responsible for all of the problems in Croatia. Croatians have done nothing! They loved Serbs and wanted to live in peace with them! Albanians too! The same Albanians who now clamor for a greater Albania with more Serb land. It's all the Serb's fault.

mick

pre 10 godina

Croatia is in The EU, meaning many croats will leave the country, Oh and don't forget the immigrants that will flood your country, if not now in 10 years time!
OH and btw the people of Slavonija and Srem, are Sokci and Raci. These people belong to the Serbian nation. But the catholic Raci and Sokci declare themselves to be Croats for the first time around 100 years ago.
And these converts who forgot their roots are the ones that are protesting, how sad uh...

MikeC

pre 10 godina

"unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments."

Ian, UK

Why don't you albanians for once provide evidence to your rediculous claim that Nikolic said all this? And so what if he did? Why do serbs in Croatia have to suffer for someone elses comments? Your way of thinking just shows how backward you albs are as a people. Should all albanians be blamed for the fact that many of their countrymen all over the world are poisoning the world with their drugs and human trafficing? You want rights for albanians in Presevo but you are against that serbs should have any rights in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. This is why we serbs fought you hypocrites. You are just uneducated and ignorant. You belong in the jungle.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

International Community supports a HEALTHY CROATIA.
(azir, 6 September 2013 16:25)

Newsflash nimrod: the international community supports a MULTIETHNIC CROATIA, which is far more "healthy" than what you envision. Take your bottomfeeding racism elsewhere.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia we wouldn't have these problems. Why is it so important for you Serbs to live in Croatia. Its a cancer that just wont go away...
(Bam Bam, 6 September 2013 11:34)

Ah, now you decided to once again be a Croat, living in Croatia no less. You're an Albanian in another thread, and you admit to living in America in others. You've got one active imagination kid.

Admit it, you secretly love to listen to Serbian Turbo-folk :)

azir

pre 10 godina

Croatia has every right to disinfect itself of Serb squatters and undesireables.

Serbs "forgot" all the crimes they committed there and all that BLOOD is still on Serb hands.This stain is eternal.

International Community supports a HEALTHY CROATIA.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just choose to ignore Nikolic's comments on Vukova [sic]? Nikolic tried denying his nationalist comments on Vukova, unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments. He is just as pathetic as these far right thugs on the streets vandalising stuff.
(Ian, UK, 6 September 2013 14:14)

Something tells me that these poor, broke, ignored, marginalized, and nearly homeless "war veterans" of Vukovar would still be acting like a bunch of nationalistic idiots with something to prove even in the absence of Nikolic's ill-thought statement.

By your logic, every Serb has the right to be anti-Croatian for the plethora of comments Tudjman said, chief of which was his famous "thank God my wife is neither a Jew nor a Serb".

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Vukovar is a dying town. A large percentage of it majority Serbian population were slaughtered by Fascist Croatia in WW2. Those who survived 1941-44 were killed or expelled by modern-day Croatia.

Croats have been leave Vukovar since their independence,and now that they are part of the EU we can expect all young Vukovar Croats to move to Western Europe. Soon Croatia will be the seaside and Zagreb with nothing in between.
(Michael Thomas, 6 September 2013 14:58)

In the 1931 Yugoslavia Census there were 5,048 Croats (49.6%) and 1,702 Serbs (16.6%) in Vukovar. In the 1948 Yugoslavia Census (the first one after WW2) there were 17,223 Croats (63.5%) and 4,390 Serbs (25.5%).

How can the so called "majority Serb population" have been "slaughtered", "killed or expelled" in WW2 if they over trippled in size in Vukovar from before the war?

And btw Croats have always been the biggest in ethnic group in Vokovar ever since records began. And in the 1990s, more Croats were killed and expelled from Vukovar than Serbs were, over double.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

After reading the ignorant comments by Bam Bam and Ian, one is left with the thought that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. Serbs are responsible for the Japanese Tsumani, Hurricane Katrina, Vietnam War, and Al-Qaeda terrorist, too.
(Roger7, 6 September 2013 12:51)

Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just choose to ignore Nikolic's comments on Vukova? Nikolic tried denying his nationalist comments on Vukova, unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments. He is just as pathetic as these far right thugs on the streets vandalising stuff.

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

@ bam bam.. those are big words from a guy calling him self bam bam like it or not if it wasn't for your nazi friends Krajina would be in Serbian hands

Michael Thomas

pre 10 godina

Vukovar is a dying town. A large percentage of it majority Serbian population were slaughtered by Fascist Croatia in WW2. Those who survived 1941-44 were killed or expelled by modern-day Croatia.

Croats have been leave Vukovar since their independence,and now that they are part of the EU we can expect all young Vukovar Croats to move to Western Europe. Soon Croatia will be the seaside and Zagreb with nothing in between.

Miso

pre 10 godina

Minorities in Croatia have no rights, the state of Croatia is fundamentally a rascist country. Tudjman was elected on this platform and I can confirm as I belong to a minority Slavic group that understands this. This idiot BAM BAM sounds like a typical Bosnian Catholic Pavelic admirer. He needs to focus on his Federation with the "Bosnjaks" in his country of BiH.

Roger7

pre 10 godina

After reading the ignorant comments by Bam Bam and Ian, one is left with the thought that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. Serbs are responsible for the Japanese Tsumani, Hurricane Katrina, Vietnam War, and Al-Qaeda terrorist, too.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia we wouldn't have these problems. Why is it so important for you Serbs to live in Croatia. Its a cancer that just wont go away...

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

There might not have been ethnic tensions in Vukovar on this scale had Nikolic not stated in May last year "Vukovar was a Serb city and Croats have nothing to go back to there″, such far-right-wing comments are going to provoke trouble; perhaps that was his intention?

Roger7

pre 10 godina

After reading the ignorant comments by Bam Bam and Ian, one is left with the thought that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. Serbs are responsible for the Japanese Tsumani, Hurricane Katrina, Vietnam War, and Al-Qaeda terrorist, too.

Miso

pre 10 godina

Minorities in Croatia have no rights, the state of Croatia is fundamentally a rascist country. Tudjman was elected on this platform and I can confirm as I belong to a minority Slavic group that understands this. This idiot BAM BAM sounds like a typical Bosnian Catholic Pavelic admirer. He needs to focus on his Federation with the "Bosnjaks" in his country of BiH.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

Ian the from the fake UK never misses a beat to put down Serbs. Never mind Tudjman and what he propagated, and never mind Jasenovac and the crimes Croats committed in WW2. He is a denier and blames Nikolic now. Yes, there you go. "Do you disagree with me"? Well Ian, ummm, YEAH! Do you disagree that Jasenovac happened? Do you disagree that Croatia dismissed all Serbs from government and prominent positions as they prepared to secede from Yugoslavia? Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1527

We know a biggot and moron when we see one Ian, and you surely are. You're perhaps the lowest grade of poster on here because you falsely claim "Ian from UK", claim you are an 'impartial' observer who just happens to have interest in learning about the break up of Yugoslavia, but are nothing more than an anti-Serb pusher. Either you are paid to post your garbage here, or are incredibly one of the dumbest humans there are. Either way, no problem, I'll agree with you :) Serbs did not die, Jasenovac is over blown, Serbian population miraculously increased in Croatia during WW2 (oh even sarcastically that's a hard one to type!), and Nikolic is responsible for all of the problems in Croatia. Croatians have done nothing! They loved Serbs and wanted to live in peace with them! Albanians too! The same Albanians who now clamor for a greater Albania with more Serb land. It's all the Serb's fault.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just choose to ignore Nikolic's comments on Vukova [sic]? Nikolic tried denying his nationalist comments on Vukova, unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments. He is just as pathetic as these far right thugs on the streets vandalising stuff.
(Ian, UK, 6 September 2013 14:14)

Something tells me that these poor, broke, ignored, marginalized, and nearly homeless "war veterans" of Vukovar would still be acting like a bunch of nationalistic idiots with something to prove even in the absence of Nikolic's ill-thought statement.

By your logic, every Serb has the right to be anti-Croatian for the plethora of comments Tudjman said, chief of which was his famous "thank God my wife is neither a Jew nor a Serb".

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

@ bam bam.. those are big words from a guy calling him self bam bam like it or not if it wasn't for your nazi friends Krajina would be in Serbian hands

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

After reading the ignorant comments by Bam Bam and Ian, one is left with the thought that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. Serbs are responsible for the Japanese Tsumani, Hurricane Katrina, Vietnam War, and Al-Qaeda terrorist, too.
(Roger7, 6 September 2013 12:51)

Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just choose to ignore Nikolic's comments on Vukova? Nikolic tried denying his nationalist comments on Vukova, unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments. He is just as pathetic as these far right thugs on the streets vandalising stuff.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Vukovar is a dying town. A large percentage of it majority Serbian population were slaughtered by Fascist Croatia in WW2. Those who survived 1941-44 were killed or expelled by modern-day Croatia.

Croats have been leave Vukovar since their independence,and now that they are part of the EU we can expect all young Vukovar Croats to move to Western Europe. Soon Croatia will be the seaside and Zagreb with nothing in between.
(Michael Thomas, 6 September 2013 14:58)

In the 1931 Yugoslavia Census there were 5,048 Croats (49.6%) and 1,702 Serbs (16.6%) in Vukovar. In the 1948 Yugoslavia Census (the first one after WW2) there were 17,223 Croats (63.5%) and 4,390 Serbs (25.5%).

How can the so called "majority Serb population" have been "slaughtered", "killed or expelled" in WW2 if they over trippled in size in Vukovar from before the war?

And btw Croats have always been the biggest in ethnic group in Vokovar ever since records began. And in the 1990s, more Croats were killed and expelled from Vukovar than Serbs were, over double.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia we wouldn't have these problems. Why is it so important for you Serbs to live in Croatia. Its a cancer that just wont go away...
(Bam Bam, 6 September 2013 11:34)

Ah, now you decided to once again be a Croat, living in Croatia no less. You're an Albanian in another thread, and you admit to living in America in others. You've got one active imagination kid.

Admit it, you secretly love to listen to Serbian Turbo-folk :)

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia we wouldn't have these problems. Why is it so important for you Serbs to live in Croatia. Its a cancer that just wont go away...

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

There might not have been ethnic tensions in Vukovar on this scale had Nikolic not stated in May last year "Vukovar was a Serb city and Croats have nothing to go back to there″, such far-right-wing comments are going to provoke trouble; perhaps that was his intention?

Michael Thomas

pre 10 godina

Vukovar is a dying town. A large percentage of it majority Serbian population were slaughtered by Fascist Croatia in WW2. Those who survived 1941-44 were killed or expelled by modern-day Croatia.

Croats have been leave Vukovar since their independence,and now that they are part of the EU we can expect all young Vukovar Croats to move to Western Europe. Soon Croatia will be the seaside and Zagreb with nothing in between.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

"unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments."

Ian, UK

Why don't you albanians for once provide evidence to your rediculous claim that Nikolic said all this? And so what if he did? Why do serbs in Croatia have to suffer for someone elses comments? Your way of thinking just shows how backward you albs are as a people. Should all albanians be blamed for the fact that many of their countrymen all over the world are poisoning the world with their drugs and human trafficing? You want rights for albanians in Presevo but you are against that serbs should have any rights in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. This is why we serbs fought you hypocrites. You are just uneducated and ignorant. You belong in the jungle.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

International Community supports a HEALTHY CROATIA.
(azir, 6 September 2013 16:25)

Newsflash nimrod: the international community supports a MULTIETHNIC CROATIA, which is far more "healthy" than what you envision. Take your bottomfeeding racism elsewhere.

mick

pre 10 godina

Croatia is in The EU, meaning many croats will leave the country, Oh and don't forget the immigrants that will flood your country, if not now in 10 years time!
OH and btw the people of Slavonija and Srem, are Sokci and Raci. These people belong to the Serbian nation. But the catholic Raci and Sokci declare themselves to be Croats for the first time around 100 years ago.
And these converts who forgot their roots are the ones that are protesting, how sad uh...

azir

pre 10 godina

Croatia has every right to disinfect itself of Serb squatters and undesireables.

Serbs "forgot" all the crimes they committed there and all that BLOOD is still on Serb hands.This stain is eternal.

International Community supports a HEALTHY CROATIA.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Ian the from the fake UK never misses a beat to put down Serbs. Never mind Tudjman and what he propagated, and never mind Jasenovac and the crimes Croats committed in WW2. He is a denier and blames Nikolic now. Yes, there you go. "Do you disagree with me"? Well Ian, ummm, YEAH! Do you disagree that Jasenovac happened? Do you disagree that Croatia dismissed all Serbs from government and prominent positions as they prepared to secede from Yugoslavia? Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too [link]

We know a biggot and moron when we see one Ian, and you surely are. You're perhaps the lowest grade of poster on here because you falsely claim "Ian from UK", claim you are an 'impartial' observer who just happens to have interest in learning about the break up of Yugoslavia, but are nothing more than an anti-Serb pusher. Either you are paid to post your garbage here, or are incredibly one of the dumbest humans there are. Either way, no problem, I'll agree with you :) Serbs did not die, Jasenovac is over blown, Serbian population miraculously increased in Croatia during WW2 (oh even sarcastically that's a hard one to type!), and Nikolic is responsible for all of the problems in Croatia. Croatians have done nothing! They loved Serbs and wanted to live in peace with them! Albanians too! The same Albanians who now clamor for a greater Albania with more Serb land. It's all the Serb's fault.
(Aleks, 6 September 2013 23:24)

Nice off-topic rant, feel better now?

give it up Ian

pre 10 godina

Ian,
Your problem is that you try to inform a bunch of ignorant bloodthirsty chetnicks on this forum.
It will not happen. Yes, some of the can now read and write but they're far from being able to comprehend what equality and compassion means.

What I find funny is that these chetnicks on one hand boast about their bravery and achievements in war but cry when someone speaks out against them.

If you're going to live by the sword then you should be ready to die by the sword and not go crying to your mamma when something doesn't go your way.

JoorZahFrul

pre 10 godina

@azir

If you say so, it must be true. Same with Nikola Tesla... Now some say that he was a Croat. Let me try it. I'm Michael Jackson. Oh wait ... it didn't work :( Here's a link to the article if someone want's to know about Jasenovac and the Independent State of Croatia in II World war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

icj1

pre 10 godina

Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too [link]
(Aleks, 6 September 2013 23:24)

Of course we deny that based on a blog that I'll create now that says the opposite of the blog link that you provided. Apparently, all Serbs need for evidence is some blog on the internet so it should be very easy to provide them evidence for everything.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

Nice off-topic rant, feel better now?
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2013 14:21)

Yes :) Thank you Ian. I guess when you have no way to deny anything you give a nice non-answer, and claim off-topic. Facts are facts. You're a bigot in every sense there is. I have no problem calling out Serbs when they deserve it, but christ brother, get off your one way street and do the same when Serbs are victim. That is on-topic, because you are a huge apologist for Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians and justify all crimes against Serbs...all of them. You're as horrible of a human as there is :)

Luka, AU

pre 10 godina

I didn't realize people still paid any attention to Ian. You can't take a guy who puts "UK" after his name seriously. Does he truly think anyone believes he is "neutral"? An Englishman who uncontrollably posts everyday on a SERBIAN news site? By his daily posting pattern, I'd hazard to guess he's Albanian. He's probably as open about his true nationality in society as he is on here. To be honest, I don't blame him for wanting to hide what he really is.

sj

pre 10 godina

“The upheaval over the Serbian Cyrillic script inscriptions on public buildings, according to Standard (Austrian newspaper), represents an internal political fiasco for Croatia, with "far-reaching consequences."
I have said it many times before that there are elements in the EU and teh rest of teh western world that are fed up with the Croats and their Ustashi behaviour and these numbers have skyrocketed. It is becoming very clear that the Serbs had no alternative but fight against these Neanderthals.
Unfortunately this is Croatian culture at its best.

justhetruth

pre 10 godina

to the Mike C i just like to tell you what i see everyday Croats are very hard working people and very success people also i meet a lots of hard working Serbians,Croats Lobby is very strong and they help each other when it comes giving job contracting in the construction field and i'm talking in millions of dollars i don't hear to much about them asking asylum or any social assistance as other ethnic groups.. and why is still so much hate down there i don't understand and feel bad for all the nation's in the balkan

Roger7

pre 10 godina

Ian is just a young and arrogant kid from a small village in West Yorkshire.

He spends his time doing internet searches in hopes of appearing knowledgeable. His association with Willie and Roberto-the wanna be journalist-has only contributed to his childish vibrato and false sense of importance.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Croats have overreacted. It's only an alphabet, it's no big deal. Croatia managed to beat off Serbian expansionist aggression on their country and now that they're a part of EU and NATO, their borders are completely secure. Totally wrong reaction by the Croats

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Apparently, all Serbs need for evidence is some blog on the internet so it should be very easy to provide them evidence for everything.
(icj1, 7 September 2013 20:45)
===========================
And yet no matter how many times we ask you guys can't provide us with even that much as evidence of you being in Kosovo before Serbs came.
Funny thing.

azir

pre 10 godina

Ian,UK is one remarkable individual that clearly loves the truth and is never intimida

ted by persistant Serb attacks.

We both share appreciation and love for justice,honest and peace.

He's so good Serbs beg him to fight for their unjust cause.

Which he would never turn evil to do so..............

sj

pre 10 godina

I understand where Brussels is coming from on this issue. The EU has a policy and as a member it must be fulfilled so it’s up to the local authorities to carry out that policy. In other words Zagreb has to be given that chance to do exactly that. Brussels would only get involved as a last resort and as the Milanovic government has stated that multilingual signs have to be erected in areas where minorities live then it will happen and they will start using the court system if this continues.

Personally, I think this is the best move these Croats could have done for the Serb cause as it now shows that they had to take up arms against a fascist nation. We even have Franciscan monks leading those demonstrations – the same order that produced 600 war criminals after WW2. Well done Catholic Church, well done.

azir

pre 10 godina

Ian,UK is one remarkable individual that clearly loves the truth and is never intimida

ted by persistant Serb attacks.

We both share appreciation and love for justice,honest and peace.

He's so good Serbs beg him to fight for their unjust cause.

Which he would never turn evil to do so..............

Huh??

pre 10 godina

"...Ian the from the fake UK..."

The UK Government should go to court and have this "fake UK" shut down immediately on the grounds of copyright violation. I mean, the nerve. Making a bootleg copy of an entire country.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

We shouldn't resort to calling Ian from UK some dumb villager, illiterate, or otherwise. To me, these are kinds of individuals are not dumb. Quite to the contrary, they're pretty intelligent. That doesn't mean they use their intelligence in a smart way. There is a difference in how you use what you have. Then you have posters like AZIR on here who love him to death just because he fans the flames of hatred to AZIR's liking. Why I say Ian is of the worst humans there are is because they are fake, try to come off as something they are not, and quietly try to push an agenda of hate. I can deal with a poster who is Croatian or Albanian and posts their hatred for Serbs. I don't agree with them, but at least they are up front and honest about who they are and what they feel. It's not a hidden agenda.

Posters like Ian from the UK on the other hand come off as 'a 3rd party', or 'outside observer' and attempt to establish a "Well look at me, I'm not any of the ethnic groups and I can clearly see the Serbs are these guilty savages". It's an attempt to establish a view to everyone that even those on the outside completely agree with the Albanians, Croatians, Bosnian Muslims...(which many regular citizens don't). Even when clearly shown evidence of atrocities that were committed against Serbs, he is quick to post anti-Serb immediately with no acknowledgement...in fact, he goes into denial mode. This is a 3rd party observer? He is nothing but an inciter of hatred.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

"...Ian the from the fake UK..."

The UK Government should go to court and have this "fake UK" shut down immediately on the grounds of copyright violation. I mean, the nerve. Making a bootleg copy of an entire country.
(Huh??, 10 September 2013 09:53)

My apologies for posting that in the wrong context. I don't mean to come off as the UK being fake, I don't feel that way at all and that would be stupid to suggest something like that. 'From the fake UK' meaning his alias is fake. Ian from the UK coming off as some impartial citizen of the UK which I believe is a fake posting.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

YOU ONLY PERSON THAT IS FAKE IS YOU ALEKS.
(azir, 12 September 2013 11:37)

Can you type any louder? How so? I am Serbian, I live in the US, and I am typing exactly what I am thinking and feeling. Your answer is quite stupid because it's simply a dumb emotional response with no thought or substance behind it. "Oh my mom is prettier than your mom"...or "Oh my dad is stronger than your dad"...yeah, your response is right on that level.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia we wouldn't have these problems. Why is it so important for you Serbs to live in Croatia. Its a cancer that just wont go away...

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

There might not have been ethnic tensions in Vukovar on this scale had Nikolic not stated in May last year "Vukovar was a Serb city and Croats have nothing to go back to there″, such far-right-wing comments are going to provoke trouble; perhaps that was his intention?

azir

pre 10 godina

Croatia has every right to disinfect itself of Serb squatters and undesireables.

Serbs "forgot" all the crimes they committed there and all that BLOOD is still on Serb hands.This stain is eternal.

International Community supports a HEALTHY CROATIA.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

After reading the ignorant comments by Bam Bam and Ian, one is left with the thought that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. Serbs are responsible for the Japanese Tsumani, Hurricane Katrina, Vietnam War, and Al-Qaeda terrorist, too.
(Roger7, 6 September 2013 12:51)

Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just choose to ignore Nikolic's comments on Vukova? Nikolic tried denying his nationalist comments on Vukova, unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments. He is just as pathetic as these far right thugs on the streets vandalising stuff.

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

@ bam bam.. those are big words from a guy calling him self bam bam like it or not if it wasn't for your nazi friends Krajina would be in Serbian hands

Aleks

pre 10 godina

Ian the from the fake UK never misses a beat to put down Serbs. Never mind Tudjman and what he propagated, and never mind Jasenovac and the crimes Croats committed in WW2. He is a denier and blames Nikolic now. Yes, there you go. "Do you disagree with me"? Well Ian, ummm, YEAH! Do you disagree that Jasenovac happened? Do you disagree that Croatia dismissed all Serbs from government and prominent positions as they prepared to secede from Yugoslavia? Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1527

We know a biggot and moron when we see one Ian, and you surely are. You're perhaps the lowest grade of poster on here because you falsely claim "Ian from UK", claim you are an 'impartial' observer who just happens to have interest in learning about the break up of Yugoslavia, but are nothing more than an anti-Serb pusher. Either you are paid to post your garbage here, or are incredibly one of the dumbest humans there are. Either way, no problem, I'll agree with you :) Serbs did not die, Jasenovac is over blown, Serbian population miraculously increased in Croatia during WW2 (oh even sarcastically that's a hard one to type!), and Nikolic is responsible for all of the problems in Croatia. Croatians have done nothing! They loved Serbs and wanted to live in peace with them! Albanians too! The same Albanians who now clamor for a greater Albania with more Serb land. It's all the Serb's fault.

Miso

pre 10 godina

Minorities in Croatia have no rights, the state of Croatia is fundamentally a rascist country. Tudjman was elected on this platform and I can confirm as I belong to a minority Slavic group that understands this. This idiot BAM BAM sounds like a typical Bosnian Catholic Pavelic admirer. He needs to focus on his Federation with the "Bosnjaks" in his country of BiH.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Vukovar is a dying town. A large percentage of it majority Serbian population were slaughtered by Fascist Croatia in WW2. Those who survived 1941-44 were killed or expelled by modern-day Croatia.

Croats have been leave Vukovar since their independence,and now that they are part of the EU we can expect all young Vukovar Croats to move to Western Europe. Soon Croatia will be the seaside and Zagreb with nothing in between.
(Michael Thomas, 6 September 2013 14:58)

In the 1931 Yugoslavia Census there were 5,048 Croats (49.6%) and 1,702 Serbs (16.6%) in Vukovar. In the 1948 Yugoslavia Census (the first one after WW2) there were 17,223 Croats (63.5%) and 4,390 Serbs (25.5%).

How can the so called "majority Serb population" have been "slaughtered", "killed or expelled" in WW2 if they over trippled in size in Vukovar from before the war?

And btw Croats have always been the biggest in ethnic group in Vokovar ever since records began. And in the 1990s, more Croats were killed and expelled from Vukovar than Serbs were, over double.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

"unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments."

Ian, UK

Why don't you albanians for once provide evidence to your rediculous claim that Nikolic said all this? And so what if he did? Why do serbs in Croatia have to suffer for someone elses comments? Your way of thinking just shows how backward you albs are as a people. Should all albanians be blamed for the fact that many of their countrymen all over the world are poisoning the world with their drugs and human trafficing? You want rights for albanians in Presevo but you are against that serbs should have any rights in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. This is why we serbs fought you hypocrites. You are just uneducated and ignorant. You belong in the jungle.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just choose to ignore Nikolic's comments on Vukova [sic]? Nikolic tried denying his nationalist comments on Vukova, unlucky for him there is an audio recording of his stupid comments. He is just as pathetic as these far right thugs on the streets vandalising stuff.
(Ian, UK, 6 September 2013 14:14)

Something tells me that these poor, broke, ignored, marginalized, and nearly homeless "war veterans" of Vukovar would still be acting like a bunch of nationalistic idiots with something to prove even in the absence of Nikolic's ill-thought statement.

By your logic, every Serb has the right to be anti-Croatian for the plethora of comments Tudjman said, chief of which was his famous "thank God my wife is neither a Jew nor a Serb".

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia we wouldn't have these problems. Why is it so important for you Serbs to live in Croatia. Its a cancer that just wont go away...
(Bam Bam, 6 September 2013 11:34)

Ah, now you decided to once again be a Croat, living in Croatia no less. You're an Albanian in another thread, and you admit to living in America in others. You've got one active imagination kid.

Admit it, you secretly love to listen to Serbian Turbo-folk :)

Roger7

pre 10 godina

After reading the ignorant comments by Bam Bam and Ian, one is left with the thought that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. Serbs are responsible for the Japanese Tsumani, Hurricane Katrina, Vietnam War, and Al-Qaeda terrorist, too.

Michael Thomas

pre 10 godina

Vukovar is a dying town. A large percentage of it majority Serbian population were slaughtered by Fascist Croatia in WW2. Those who survived 1941-44 were killed or expelled by modern-day Croatia.

Croats have been leave Vukovar since their independence,and now that they are part of the EU we can expect all young Vukovar Croats to move to Western Europe. Soon Croatia will be the seaside and Zagreb with nothing in between.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 10 godina

International Community supports a HEALTHY CROATIA.
(azir, 6 September 2013 16:25)

Newsflash nimrod: the international community supports a MULTIETHNIC CROATIA, which is far more "healthy" than what you envision. Take your bottomfeeding racism elsewhere.

mick

pre 10 godina

Croatia is in The EU, meaning many croats will leave the country, Oh and don't forget the immigrants that will flood your country, if not now in 10 years time!
OH and btw the people of Slavonija and Srem, are Sokci and Raci. These people belong to the Serbian nation. But the catholic Raci and Sokci declare themselves to be Croats for the first time around 100 years ago.
And these converts who forgot their roots are the ones that are protesting, how sad uh...

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Ian the from the fake UK never misses a beat to put down Serbs. Never mind Tudjman and what he propagated, and never mind Jasenovac and the crimes Croats committed in WW2. He is a denier and blames Nikolic now. Yes, there you go. "Do you disagree with me"? Well Ian, ummm, YEAH! Do you disagree that Jasenovac happened? Do you disagree that Croatia dismissed all Serbs from government and prominent positions as they prepared to secede from Yugoslavia? Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too [link]

We know a biggot and moron when we see one Ian, and you surely are. You're perhaps the lowest grade of poster on here because you falsely claim "Ian from UK", claim you are an 'impartial' observer who just happens to have interest in learning about the break up of Yugoslavia, but are nothing more than an anti-Serb pusher. Either you are paid to post your garbage here, or are incredibly one of the dumbest humans there are. Either way, no problem, I'll agree with you :) Serbs did not die, Jasenovac is over blown, Serbian population miraculously increased in Croatia during WW2 (oh even sarcastically that's a hard one to type!), and Nikolic is responsible for all of the problems in Croatia. Croatians have done nothing! They loved Serbs and wanted to live in peace with them! Albanians too! The same Albanians who now clamor for a greater Albania with more Serb land. It's all the Serb's fault.
(Aleks, 6 September 2013 23:24)

Nice off-topic rant, feel better now?

give it up Ian

pre 10 godina

Ian,
Your problem is that you try to inform a bunch of ignorant bloodthirsty chetnicks on this forum.
It will not happen. Yes, some of the can now read and write but they're far from being able to comprehend what equality and compassion means.

What I find funny is that these chetnicks on one hand boast about their bravery and achievements in war but cry when someone speaks out against them.

If you're going to live by the sword then you should be ready to die by the sword and not go crying to your mamma when something doesn't go your way.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Croats have overreacted. It's only an alphabet, it's no big deal. Croatia managed to beat off Serbian expansionist aggression on their country and now that they're a part of EU and NATO, their borders are completely secure. Totally wrong reaction by the Croats

Luka, AU

pre 10 godina

I didn't realize people still paid any attention to Ian. You can't take a guy who puts "UK" after his name seriously. Does he truly think anyone believes he is "neutral"? An Englishman who uncontrollably posts everyday on a SERBIAN news site? By his daily posting pattern, I'd hazard to guess he's Albanian. He's probably as open about his true nationality in society as he is on here. To be honest, I don't blame him for wanting to hide what he really is.

sj

pre 10 godina

“The upheaval over the Serbian Cyrillic script inscriptions on public buildings, according to Standard (Austrian newspaper), represents an internal political fiasco for Croatia, with "far-reaching consequences."
I have said it many times before that there are elements in the EU and teh rest of teh western world that are fed up with the Croats and their Ustashi behaviour and these numbers have skyrocketed. It is becoming very clear that the Serbs had no alternative but fight against these Neanderthals.
Unfortunately this is Croatian culture at its best.

JoorZahFrul

pre 10 godina

@azir

If you say so, it must be true. Same with Nikola Tesla... Now some say that he was a Croat. Let me try it. I'm Michael Jackson. Oh wait ... it didn't work :( Here's a link to the article if someone want's to know about Jasenovac and the Independent State of Croatia in II World war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

Aleks

pre 10 godina

Nice off-topic rant, feel better now?
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2013 14:21)

Yes :) Thank you Ian. I guess when you have no way to deny anything you give a nice non-answer, and claim off-topic. Facts are facts. You're a bigot in every sense there is. I have no problem calling out Serbs when they deserve it, but christ brother, get off your one way street and do the same when Serbs are victim. That is on-topic, because you are a huge apologist for Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians and justify all crimes against Serbs...all of them. You're as horrible of a human as there is :)

icj1

pre 10 godina

Most of all you ignorant idiot, do you deny this too [link]
(Aleks, 6 September 2013 23:24)

Of course we deny that based on a blog that I'll create now that says the opposite of the blog link that you provided. Apparently, all Serbs need for evidence is some blog on the internet so it should be very easy to provide them evidence for everything.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Apparently, all Serbs need for evidence is some blog on the internet so it should be very easy to provide them evidence for everything.
(icj1, 7 September 2013 20:45)
===========================
And yet no matter how many times we ask you guys can't provide us with even that much as evidence of you being in Kosovo before Serbs came.
Funny thing.

sj

pre 10 godina

I understand where Brussels is coming from on this issue. The EU has a policy and as a member it must be fulfilled so it’s up to the local authorities to carry out that policy. In other words Zagreb has to be given that chance to do exactly that. Brussels would only get involved as a last resort and as the Milanovic government has stated that multilingual signs have to be erected in areas where minorities live then it will happen and they will start using the court system if this continues.

Personally, I think this is the best move these Croats could have done for the Serb cause as it now shows that they had to take up arms against a fascist nation. We even have Franciscan monks leading those demonstrations – the same order that produced 600 war criminals after WW2. Well done Catholic Church, well done.

azir

pre 10 godina

Ian,UK is one remarkable individual that clearly loves the truth and is never intimida

ted by persistant Serb attacks.

We both share appreciation and love for justice,honest and peace.

He's so good Serbs beg him to fight for their unjust cause.

Which he would never turn evil to do so..............

Roger7

pre 10 godina

Ian is just a young and arrogant kid from a small village in West Yorkshire.

He spends his time doing internet searches in hopes of appearing knowledgeable. His association with Willie and Roberto-the wanna be journalist-has only contributed to his childish vibrato and false sense of importance.

justhetruth

pre 10 godina

to the Mike C i just like to tell you what i see everyday Croats are very hard working people and very success people also i meet a lots of hard working Serbians,Croats Lobby is very strong and they help each other when it comes giving job contracting in the construction field and i'm talking in millions of dollars i don't hear to much about them asking asylum or any social assistance as other ethnic groups.. and why is still so much hate down there i don't understand and feel bad for all the nation's in the balkan

azir

pre 10 godina

Ian,UK is one remarkable individual that clearly loves the truth and is never intimida

ted by persistant Serb attacks.

We both share appreciation and love for justice,honest and peace.

He's so good Serbs beg him to fight for their unjust cause.

Which he would never turn evil to do so..............

Aleks

pre 10 godina

"...Ian the from the fake UK..."

The UK Government should go to court and have this "fake UK" shut down immediately on the grounds of copyright violation. I mean, the nerve. Making a bootleg copy of an entire country.
(Huh??, 10 September 2013 09:53)

My apologies for posting that in the wrong context. I don't mean to come off as the UK being fake, I don't feel that way at all and that would be stupid to suggest something like that. 'From the fake UK' meaning his alias is fake. Ian from the UK coming off as some impartial citizen of the UK which I believe is a fake posting.

Huh??

pre 10 godina

"...Ian the from the fake UK..."

The UK Government should go to court and have this "fake UK" shut down immediately on the grounds of copyright violation. I mean, the nerve. Making a bootleg copy of an entire country.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

We shouldn't resort to calling Ian from UK some dumb villager, illiterate, or otherwise. To me, these are kinds of individuals are not dumb. Quite to the contrary, they're pretty intelligent. That doesn't mean they use their intelligence in a smart way. There is a difference in how you use what you have. Then you have posters like AZIR on here who love him to death just because he fans the flames of hatred to AZIR's liking. Why I say Ian is of the worst humans there are is because they are fake, try to come off as something they are not, and quietly try to push an agenda of hate. I can deal with a poster who is Croatian or Albanian and posts their hatred for Serbs. I don't agree with them, but at least they are up front and honest about who they are and what they feel. It's not a hidden agenda.

Posters like Ian from the UK on the other hand come off as 'a 3rd party', or 'outside observer' and attempt to establish a "Well look at me, I'm not any of the ethnic groups and I can clearly see the Serbs are these guilty savages". It's an attempt to establish a view to everyone that even those on the outside completely agree with the Albanians, Croatians, Bosnian Muslims...(which many regular citizens don't). Even when clearly shown evidence of atrocities that were committed against Serbs, he is quick to post anti-Serb immediately with no acknowledgement...in fact, he goes into denial mode. This is a 3rd party observer? He is nothing but an inciter of hatred.

Aleks

pre 10 godina

YOU ONLY PERSON THAT IS FAKE IS YOU ALEKS.
(azir, 12 September 2013 11:37)

Can you type any louder? How so? I am Serbian, I live in the US, and I am typing exactly what I am thinking and feeling. Your answer is quite stupid because it's simply a dumb emotional response with no thought or substance behind it. "Oh my mom is prettier than your mom"...or "Oh my dad is stronger than your dad"...yeah, your response is right on that level.