I find it interesting that Croats in Vukovar say that the use of the Cyrillic script brings back reminders of Serb aggression, therefore it should not be allowed. These same people, however, found nothing wrong with the Tudjman regime renaming streets after Croatian WWII war criminals and bringing back the checkerboard flag used by the murderous Ustasha regime who were responsible for butchering hundreds of thousands of Serbs. Don't you think these memories still live in the minds of Serbs? The Croatian double standard at work again.
Croats are enough of a reason, why the south slavs are a pathetic tiny little nation deserving only pain and misery.
It is unbelievable how much (un-puniched) harm those rats has done to the south slavs for many centuries to come.
Slavs do not need and cannot take democracy (Slavs or any other nation). They need a strict system to obey, STFU and stay away from politics.
Slavs are destined to die in the south of europe. in 500 years from now maybe Slavic countries will be a far memory. Same trends are observed elsewhere. No nation can survive with SO MANY traitors in it...
Well, my dear Croato-Boslims there you had it... You insulted your very own kind by starting those wars... Your souls will never rest in peace. You screwed Slavic life in the southern balkans.
Its a shame.... The most vivid, spiritful, joyful and strong part of the balkans (Slavs) committing suicide....
Where is the the great EU police now? They like to go into a non EU territory like Serbia-Kosovo to sort out issues. Shouldn't they be in Vukovar sorting this Shite out.?
Now we understand why the Serbs in Krajina tried to break away, to avoid what is presently taking place. Can I add that Serbs and Croats lived in peace until extremist Bosnian Catholics arrived in Slavonija looking for work and bringing their WW11 hatred.
Why is it that the so called educated Serbs on this site are so reluctant to mention the JNA & Chetniks taking down Croatian signs and flags illegally from government buildings in Vukovar November 1991.
I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. We all new that YU would return when Tudjman left mother earth.
(Bam Bam, 3 September 2013 15:10)
Of course you don't. You live in America, which makes it hard to see. But as I posted yesterday, here you go.
As for what you think of "disrespecting" a bunch of ragtag old men you think are "veterans", they're one of the most disenfranchised, marginalized, and ignored social group in Croatia. If you care about their well being so much, wire some money to whatever relative you still have living there with instructions to dispense it to the closest homeless shelter.
Stick to reading and posting to Stormfront. The clientele is more up your alley.
It is not time yet for dual language signs in Vukovar...Wounds are still fresh - consider Serbian president just this year claimed that Vukovar was/is a Serbian town, and that some war crimes in the area have still not been resolved (ex. Croatian victims of rape during the war). Maybe there will be a time in the future for dual language signs but not now. The Constitutional law considers special circumstances and stipulates that in the event of applying the minority rights to bilingualism the government must ensure that such an implementation does NOT cause a disturbance in the relationship of the ethnic minority with the national majority. The Croatian government is acting on the signs today, not for the sake of Serbs, but for its own sake to divert attention from real problems the country faces. Croatian Serb politicians and leaders could be lots to resolve this issue by understanding the sensitivity of the issue for Croatians veterans and the the town's suffering as a whole; if they truly believe in reconciliation and peace.
As an outsider looking in and actually coming to B92 looking for news without the US slant on things I find these types of articles interesting. I always thought Cyrillic is a Slavic language. Does that mean Russians write in Serbian?? No of course not. This is just people trying to be different when they are the same.
http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et04.html
This is just like African Americans naming their kids DeShawn. Huh, is Shawn. Not DeShawn. Uh ohhhh am I nationalistic too? Maybe I should move to Croatia. lol. Ignorance loves company.
That's much more then OSCE rules demand, and those rules on minority rights are here much longer then EU exists. It states that ethnic minority has a right to public use of language if it makes 30% of population.
Now, Croatia is different and never had a culture of tolerance.
In passing, I'll also state that this is also a ridiculous and humorous byproduct of Croatian insistence that Croatian is absolutely and unequivocally a different language from Serbian. This strange Croatian complex that results in subtitles on Serbian films and TV programs shown in Croatia paints them into a corner. If they didn't insist so hard on their language being separate, they might not have to bear the indignity of having to see cyrillic script, which is a direct (and humorous) result of their own linguistic identity insecurity creating the conceptual framework for this to happen.
let's face it - There's not a single Serb living in Vukovar that's going to be confused by latinic script. This has nothing to do with language and understandability. As such, it's not really comparable to Italian in Istria. But hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. This is retrograde nationalist bothering retrograde nationalist. Let them :) Since it's within the yolk of the EU now, it'll be a few more smashing signs until they get tired of the dance. Not much danger of it escalating into real violence as the Croatian government is obliged by larger forces to keep those signs up and keep people safe.
Basically, be it Serbian or Croatian or whomever, I love watching idiot nationalists paint themselves into a corner they can't get out of :)
Best bet is probably giving your head a shake and worrying about real problems :)
The Tito loving Croat government will pay dearly for disrespecting the veterans and the people of Vukovar. These champagne sipping socialists continue to create pathetic laws from ZG. These scum bags fled to Germany in 1991 while young men were being massacred by Chetnik irregulars at Ovcare. Serbs in Croatia don't respect the country they live in and the only reason they are their is because Serbia is alot worse. We are the only country on the planet that allows for such crap. I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. We all new that YU would return when Tudjman left mother earth.
"I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. "
I guess you missed the links in the other article that posted pictures to official signs in Novi Sad. They were in Hungarian and even Ruthian. Wikipedia says there are 15000 Ruthians living in Serbia.
omg, riot police to defend an alphabet. Ridiculous. Guess what Vukovar "defenders", you're part of the EU now and your government is bound, not only by its own legislation to uphold the rights of minorities, but by EU legislation. The only think you're accomplishing when you bring that hammer down is causing problems for your own country and your own self as your government is obliged to put them up.
So, go ahead and take resources and attention away from the real problems your country has, but you're truly being idiots
omg, riot police to defend an alphabet. Ridiculous. Guess what Vukovar "defenders", you're part of the EU now and your government is bound, not only by its own legislation to uphold the rights of minorities, but by EU legislation. The only think you're accomplishing when you bring that hammer down is causing problems for your own country and your own self as your government is obliged to put them up.
So, go ahead and take resources and attention away from the real problems your country has, but you're truly being idiots
That's much more then OSCE rules demand, and those rules on minority rights are here much longer then EU exists. It states that ethnic minority has a right to public use of language if it makes 30% of population.
Now, Croatia is different and never had a culture of tolerance.
"I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. "
I guess you missed the links in the other article that posted pictures to official signs in Novi Sad. They were in Hungarian and even Ruthian. Wikipedia says there are 15000 Ruthians living in Serbia.
In passing, I'll also state that this is also a ridiculous and humorous byproduct of Croatian insistence that Croatian is absolutely and unequivocally a different language from Serbian. This strange Croatian complex that results in subtitles on Serbian films and TV programs shown in Croatia paints them into a corner. If they didn't insist so hard on their language being separate, they might not have to bear the indignity of having to see cyrillic script, which is a direct (and humorous) result of their own linguistic identity insecurity creating the conceptual framework for this to happen.
let's face it - There's not a single Serb living in Vukovar that's going to be confused by latinic script. This has nothing to do with language and understandability. As such, it's not really comparable to Italian in Istria. But hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. This is retrograde nationalist bothering retrograde nationalist. Let them :) Since it's within the yolk of the EU now, it'll be a few more smashing signs until they get tired of the dance. Not much danger of it escalating into real violence as the Croatian government is obliged by larger forces to keep those signs up and keep people safe.
Basically, be it Serbian or Croatian or whomever, I love watching idiot nationalists paint themselves into a corner they can't get out of :)
Best bet is probably giving your head a shake and worrying about real problems :)
I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. We all new that YU would return when Tudjman left mother earth.
(Bam Bam, 3 September 2013 15:10)
Of course you don't. You live in America, which makes it hard to see. But as I posted yesterday, here you go.
As for what you think of "disrespecting" a bunch of ragtag old men you think are "veterans", they're one of the most disenfranchised, marginalized, and ignored social group in Croatia. If you care about their well being so much, wire some money to whatever relative you still have living there with instructions to dispense it to the closest homeless shelter.
Stick to reading and posting to Stormfront. The clientele is more up your alley.
The Tito loving Croat government will pay dearly for disrespecting the veterans and the people of Vukovar. These champagne sipping socialists continue to create pathetic laws from ZG. These scum bags fled to Germany in 1991 while young men were being massacred by Chetnik irregulars at Ovcare. Serbs in Croatia don't respect the country they live in and the only reason they are their is because Serbia is alot worse. We are the only country on the planet that allows for such crap. I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. We all new that YU would return when Tudjman left mother earth.
Where is the the great EU police now? They like to go into a non EU territory like Serbia-Kosovo to sort out issues. Shouldn't they be in Vukovar sorting this Shite out.?
Now we understand why the Serbs in Krajina tried to break away, to avoid what is presently taking place. Can I add that Serbs and Croats lived in peace until extremist Bosnian Catholics arrived in Slavonija looking for work and bringing their WW11 hatred.
Why is it that the so called educated Serbs on this site are so reluctant to mention the JNA & Chetniks taking down Croatian signs and flags illegally from government buildings in Vukovar November 1991.
As an outsider looking in and actually coming to B92 looking for news without the US slant on things I find these types of articles interesting. I always thought Cyrillic is a Slavic language. Does that mean Russians write in Serbian?? No of course not. This is just people trying to be different when they are the same.
http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et04.html
This is just like African Americans naming their kids DeShawn. Huh, is Shawn. Not DeShawn. Uh ohhhh am I nationalistic too? Maybe I should move to Croatia. lol. Ignorance loves company.
I find it interesting that Croats in Vukovar say that the use of the Cyrillic script brings back reminders of Serb aggression, therefore it should not be allowed. These same people, however, found nothing wrong with the Tudjman regime renaming streets after Croatian WWII war criminals and bringing back the checkerboard flag used by the murderous Ustasha regime who were responsible for butchering hundreds of thousands of Serbs. Don't you think these memories still live in the minds of Serbs? The Croatian double standard at work again.
It is not time yet for dual language signs in Vukovar...Wounds are still fresh - consider Serbian president just this year claimed that Vukovar was/is a Serbian town, and that some war crimes in the area have still not been resolved (ex. Croatian victims of rape during the war). Maybe there will be a time in the future for dual language signs but not now. The Constitutional law considers special circumstances and stipulates that in the event of applying the minority rights to bilingualism the government must ensure that such an implementation does NOT cause a disturbance in the relationship of the ethnic minority with the national majority. The Croatian government is acting on the signs today, not for the sake of Serbs, but for its own sake to divert attention from real problems the country faces. Croatian Serb politicians and leaders could be lots to resolve this issue by understanding the sensitivity of the issue for Croatians veterans and the the town's suffering as a whole; if they truly believe in reconciliation and peace.
Croats are enough of a reason, why the south slavs are a pathetic tiny little nation deserving only pain and misery.
It is unbelievable how much (un-puniched) harm those rats has done to the south slavs for many centuries to come.
Slavs do not need and cannot take democracy (Slavs or any other nation). They need a strict system to obey, STFU and stay away from politics.
Slavs are destined to die in the south of europe. in 500 years from now maybe Slavic countries will be a far memory. Same trends are observed elsewhere. No nation can survive with SO MANY traitors in it...
Well, my dear Croato-Boslims there you had it... You insulted your very own kind by starting those wars... Your souls will never rest in peace. You screwed Slavic life in the southern balkans.
Its a shame.... The most vivid, spiritful, joyful and strong part of the balkans (Slavs) committing suicide....
The Tito loving Croat government will pay dearly for disrespecting the veterans and the people of Vukovar. These champagne sipping socialists continue to create pathetic laws from ZG. These scum bags fled to Germany in 1991 while young men were being massacred by Chetnik irregulars at Ovcare. Serbs in Croatia don't respect the country they live in and the only reason they are their is because Serbia is alot worse. We are the only country on the planet that allows for such crap. I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. We all new that YU would return when Tudjman left mother earth.
Croats are enough of a reason, why the south slavs are a pathetic tiny little nation deserving only pain and misery.
It is unbelievable how much (un-puniched) harm those rats has done to the south slavs for many centuries to come.
Slavs do not need and cannot take democracy (Slavs or any other nation). They need a strict system to obey, STFU and stay away from politics.
Slavs are destined to die in the south of europe. in 500 years from now maybe Slavic countries will be a far memory. Same trends are observed elsewhere. No nation can survive with SO MANY traitors in it...
Well, my dear Croato-Boslims there you had it... You insulted your very own kind by starting those wars... Your souls will never rest in peace. You screwed Slavic life in the southern balkans.
Its a shame.... The most vivid, spiritful, joyful and strong part of the balkans (Slavs) committing suicide....
Why is it that the so called educated Serbs on this site are so reluctant to mention the JNA & Chetniks taking down Croatian signs and flags illegally from government buildings in Vukovar November 1991.
It is not time yet for dual language signs in Vukovar...Wounds are still fresh - consider Serbian president just this year claimed that Vukovar was/is a Serbian town, and that some war crimes in the area have still not been resolved (ex. Croatian victims of rape during the war). Maybe there will be a time in the future for dual language signs but not now. The Constitutional law considers special circumstances and stipulates that in the event of applying the minority rights to bilingualism the government must ensure that such an implementation does NOT cause a disturbance in the relationship of the ethnic minority with the national majority. The Croatian government is acting on the signs today, not for the sake of Serbs, but for its own sake to divert attention from real problems the country faces. Croatian Serb politicians and leaders could be lots to resolve this issue by understanding the sensitivity of the issue for Croatians veterans and the the town's suffering as a whole; if they truly believe in reconciliation and peace.
Now we understand why the Serbs in Krajina tried to break away, to avoid what is presently taking place. Can I add that Serbs and Croats lived in peace until extremist Bosnian Catholics arrived in Slavonija looking for work and bringing their WW11 hatred.
That's much more then OSCE rules demand, and those rules on minority rights are here much longer then EU exists. It states that ethnic minority has a right to public use of language if it makes 30% of population.
Now, Croatia is different and never had a culture of tolerance.
omg, riot police to defend an alphabet. Ridiculous. Guess what Vukovar "defenders", you're part of the EU now and your government is bound, not only by its own legislation to uphold the rights of minorities, but by EU legislation. The only think you're accomplishing when you bring that hammer down is causing problems for your own country and your own self as your government is obliged to put them up.
So, go ahead and take resources and attention away from the real problems your country has, but you're truly being idiots
In passing, I'll also state that this is also a ridiculous and humorous byproduct of Croatian insistence that Croatian is absolutely and unequivocally a different language from Serbian. This strange Croatian complex that results in subtitles on Serbian films and TV programs shown in Croatia paints them into a corner. If they didn't insist so hard on their language being separate, they might not have to bear the indignity of having to see cyrillic script, which is a direct (and humorous) result of their own linguistic identity insecurity creating the conceptual framework for this to happen.
let's face it - There's not a single Serb living in Vukovar that's going to be confused by latinic script. This has nothing to do with language and understandability. As such, it's not really comparable to Italian in Istria. But hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. This is retrograde nationalist bothering retrograde nationalist. Let them :) Since it's within the yolk of the EU now, it'll be a few more smashing signs until they get tired of the dance. Not much danger of it escalating into real violence as the Croatian government is obliged by larger forces to keep those signs up and keep people safe.
Basically, be it Serbian or Croatian or whomever, I love watching idiot nationalists paint themselves into a corner they can't get out of :)
Best bet is probably giving your head a shake and worrying about real problems :)
As an outsider looking in and actually coming to B92 looking for news without the US slant on things I find these types of articles interesting. I always thought Cyrillic is a Slavic language. Does that mean Russians write in Serbian?? No of course not. This is just people trying to be different when they are the same.
http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et04.html
This is just like African Americans naming their kids DeShawn. Huh, is Shawn. Not DeShawn. Uh ohhhh am I nationalistic too? Maybe I should move to Croatia. lol. Ignorance loves company.
Where is the the great EU police now? They like to go into a non EU territory like Serbia-Kosovo to sort out issues. Shouldn't they be in Vukovar sorting this Shite out.?
"I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. "
I guess you missed the links in the other article that posted pictures to official signs in Novi Sad. They were in Hungarian and even Ruthian. Wikipedia says there are 15000 Ruthians living in Serbia.
I don't see Hungarian lettering plastered all over Novi Sad. We all new that YU would return when Tudjman left mother earth.
(Bam Bam, 3 September 2013 15:10)
Of course you don't. You live in America, which makes it hard to see. But as I posted yesterday, here you go.
As for what you think of "disrespecting" a bunch of ragtag old men you think are "veterans", they're one of the most disenfranchised, marginalized, and ignored social group in Croatia. If you care about their well being so much, wire some money to whatever relative you still have living there with instructions to dispense it to the closest homeless shelter.
Stick to reading and posting to Stormfront. The clientele is more up your alley.
I find it interesting that Croats in Vukovar say that the use of the Cyrillic script brings back reminders of Serb aggression, therefore it should not be allowed. These same people, however, found nothing wrong with the Tudjman regime renaming streets after Croatian WWII war criminals and bringing back the checkerboard flag used by the murderous Ustasha regime who were responsible for butchering hundreds of thousands of Serbs. Don't you think these memories still live in the minds of Serbs? The Croatian double standard at work again.
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