PM reiterates opposition to Kosovo symbol on ballots

@Dacic, wait till you meet with Thaci and Ashton in next scheduled meeting.Both of them will grab your ears till you ask them to please let go and say YES.

If elections are to be held under Kosovo law....what is Dacic's problem?

Latest information coming out of Brussels is that they will comply with the No symbols opn ballot papers.

Another backward step for the Illyrians.
(sj, 26 August 2013 04:59)


sj,

Is this just another delusional rambling on your part? Could you please provide some legitimate substantiation to back you up or do you really expect us to believe you after all your past ridiculously false statements.

I'm confused. Are these elections being run under the auspices of the EU, in which case status neutrality sounds perfectly reasonable, or by the Pristina authorities? In the latter case it is hardly surprising that they intend to put their logo on the forms. Bearing in mind all the concessions and sovereignty that Dacic has already given away this seems a trifling matter in comparison. I'm not saying it is right but perhaps not worth spending too much political capital on for fear of looking like the (fat) boy who cried wolf.

BELGRADE -- Ivica Dačić says he will insist in Brussels on August 27 that Priština and the EU guarantee that "the Kosovo logo" will not appear on the ballot papers.

Dacic, who are you kidding. You sold out your own kin for 30 pieces of silver and a string of vague promises and now you want them to vote in Pristina elections but without the symbols.

Jesus wept.

For your information Slovenia’s bonds have been relegated to JUNK bond Status.

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Just curious.... Has there been a time when Serbia's credit rating hasn't been junk bond status?

As usual, poor sj is embarrassing himself once again. It appears sj has a serious problem with reading comprehension of English. Also, his spelling is on the level of a 4th grader. Serbia has always had lower credit ratings than both Croatia and Slovenia.

You're really tripping over yourself, sj.

First you say Standard and Poor and I demonstrated you're talking out of your ass, and now you quote Moodys

According to your article, Moody's downgraded Slovenia from Baa2 to Ba1. This is indeed 1 step under junk.

However, Moody's puts Serbia a B2 https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-assigns-B1-ratings-to-Serbia-stable-outlook--PR_277471

that's 4 steps below Slovenia and 5 steps below junk.

You really are full of crap, aren't you, SJ?

Standard and Poor's sovereign ratings:

http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/sovereigns/ratings-list/en/us?sectorName=null&subSectorCode=39&filter=S

Slovenia: A- (no where near 'junk')
Serbia: BB- (3 steps below 'junk)


I actually believed you until I looked it up.

Do you just make everything up to suit your strange, little worldview?

Latest information coming out of Brussels is that they will comply with the No symbols opn ballot papers.

Another backward step for the Illyrians.

(Branko, 26 August 2013 14:42)

Yes is just rambling. However, which false statements are they? The fact the=at the US is so far in debt that the next five generations cannot bring it under control – 18 trillion by December and that is only the federal government not counting the states which by the way are all broke? Ask the city of Detroit which now has affected 12 States. I imagine people like you think that the freedom and democratic fairy will waive the magic wand and all will be well.

Or is the fact that the EU has run out of money and is unable to prop up Croatia or Slovenia. For your information Slovenia’s bonds have been relegated to JUNK bond Status.

Branko get off your arse and look up something for a change and stop expecting others to do all the work.

(Danilo, 27 August 2013 10:28)
I can tell you that today Serbia’s credit rating is far better than either Slovenia or Croatia which was not the case 5 or 6 years ago. But that was obvious even to a blind person that the EU was propping up both until the GFC hit. Today neither gets too much help from Brussels and that is the reason why they are bankrupt. Serbia on the other hand is moving forward while teh other two are reversing.
It was Standard and Poors that relegated Slovenia’s bonds to junk.

(The Count of Kosova, 27 August 2013 19:52)


Another poor dumb Albanian comes to the front who thinks that money grows on trees.

It’s funny that Serbia can borrow money at a favourable rate when taking into consideration its economic situation, but Croatia cannot raise a dime without Brussels OK simply because it needs a guarantor. Serbia can pay its farmers a decent price for wheat but Croatia cannot – what did the Croat Agriculture Minister tell their farmers??? Ah yes
“Croatia does not have the money to pay what you are asking. We do not have the money. We have to close hospitals because there is no money”.

Slovenia’s bonds are junk status.Yep you just keep on looking at the CIA website. Next thing I’ll from Lord of the Dance is Kosova has a better credit rating.

When having to explain complex matters to Albanian goat herders its pointless getting too technical as you get lost in the sentence and most are semi literate as they think that money grows on trees.

Do you just make everything up to suit your strange, little worldview?
(Danilo, 27 August 2013 17:31)

Yep I do but read on knucklehead.

Try Moodys

"Slovenia’s credit rating was on Tuesday downgraded to junk by Moody’s rating agency, forcing the tiny eurozone state……”
Slovenia’s credit rating was on Tuesday downgraded to junk by Moody’s rating agency, forcing the tiny eurozone state, which is battling to avoid an emergency bail out, to stall plans for raising debt in US dollar markets.
Moody’s said it was lowering the Alpine country’s rating from Baa2 to Ba1 because of the weak state of its banking system….”.
The date on this article - April 30, 2013 7:50 pm.

(Danilo, 28 August 2013 12:32)
Yes I quoted the wrong agency. However, since that assement in April this year Slovenia is now junk bond status. I know that Serbia can get a loan at a very reasonable interest rate even taking into consideration her economic situation from the major lenders in Asia. Slovenia and Croatia cannot even get a loan for a can of coke without guarantees from the EU. Doesn’t that tell you something? Slovenians are demonstrating regularly against what they now see as lies when they were promised the world if they broke away from Yugoslavia and are about to get shafted.
Don’t you ever ask yourself the question how can Slovenia have such a high credit rating when it has no industry to speak of and most of its income is tourism.
There is plenty of information that is never printed but common knowledge within the world finance circles. Most of the stuff that is printed is worthless. For example, four weeks ago we had the headlines “US housing industry on the rise” yet only on Monday the price of gold went up because US housing remains flat.
Why do you think western rating agencies are not used by Asian financiers?

Latest information coming out of Brussels is that they will comply with the No symbols opn ballot papers.

Another backward step for the Illyrians.

@Dacic, wait till you meet with Thaci and Ashton in next scheduled meeting.Both of them will grab your ears till you ask them to please let go and say YES.

(Danilo, 27 August 2013 10:28)
I can tell you that today Serbia’s credit rating is far better than either Slovenia or Croatia which was not the case 5 or 6 years ago. But that was obvious even to a blind person that the EU was propping up both until the GFC hit. Today neither gets too much help from Brussels and that is the reason why they are bankrupt. Serbia on the other hand is moving forward while teh other two are reversing.
It was Standard and Poors that relegated Slovenia’s bonds to junk.

BELGRADE -- Ivica Dačić says he will insist in Brussels on August 27 that Priština and the EU guarantee that "the Kosovo logo" will not appear on the ballot papers.

Dacic, who are you kidding. You sold out your own kin for 30 pieces of silver and a string of vague promises and now you want them to vote in Pristina elections but without the symbols.

Jesus wept.

Do you just make everything up to suit your strange, little worldview?
(Danilo, 27 August 2013 17:31)

Yep I do but read on knucklehead.

Try Moodys

"Slovenia’s credit rating was on Tuesday downgraded to junk by Moody’s rating agency, forcing the tiny eurozone state……”
Slovenia’s credit rating was on Tuesday downgraded to junk by Moody’s rating agency, forcing the tiny eurozone state, which is battling to avoid an emergency bail out, to stall plans for raising debt in US dollar markets.
Moody’s said it was lowering the Alpine country’s rating from Baa2 to Ba1 because of the weak state of its banking system….”.
The date on this article - April 30, 2013 7:50 pm.

(Branko, 26 August 2013 14:42)

Yes is just rambling. However, which false statements are they? The fact the=at the US is so far in debt that the next five generations cannot bring it under control – 18 trillion by December and that is only the federal government not counting the states which by the way are all broke? Ask the city of Detroit which now has affected 12 States. I imagine people like you think that the freedom and democratic fairy will waive the magic wand and all will be well.

Or is the fact that the EU has run out of money and is unable to prop up Croatia or Slovenia. For your information Slovenia’s bonds have been relegated to JUNK bond Status.

Branko get off your arse and look up something for a change and stop expecting others to do all the work.

(The Count of Kosova, 27 August 2013 19:52)


Another poor dumb Albanian comes to the front who thinks that money grows on trees.

It’s funny that Serbia can borrow money at a favourable rate when taking into consideration its economic situation, but Croatia cannot raise a dime without Brussels OK simply because it needs a guarantor. Serbia can pay its farmers a decent price for wheat but Croatia cannot – what did the Croat Agriculture Minister tell their farmers??? Ah yes
“Croatia does not have the money to pay what you are asking. We do not have the money. We have to close hospitals because there is no money”.

Slovenia’s bonds are junk status.Yep you just keep on looking at the CIA website. Next thing I’ll from Lord of the Dance is Kosova has a better credit rating.

When having to explain complex matters to Albanian goat herders its pointless getting too technical as you get lost in the sentence and most are semi literate as they think that money grows on trees.

(Danilo, 28 August 2013 12:32)
Yes I quoted the wrong agency. However, since that assement in April this year Slovenia is now junk bond status. I know that Serbia can get a loan at a very reasonable interest rate even taking into consideration her economic situation from the major lenders in Asia. Slovenia and Croatia cannot even get a loan for a can of coke without guarantees from the EU. Doesn’t that tell you something? Slovenians are demonstrating regularly against what they now see as lies when they were promised the world if they broke away from Yugoslavia and are about to get shafted.
Don’t you ever ask yourself the question how can Slovenia have such a high credit rating when it has no industry to speak of and most of its income is tourism.
There is plenty of information that is never printed but common knowledge within the world finance circles. Most of the stuff that is printed is worthless. For example, four weeks ago we had the headlines “US housing industry on the rise” yet only on Monday the price of gold went up because US housing remains flat.
Why do you think western rating agencies are not used by Asian financiers?

I'm confused. Are these elections being run under the auspices of the EU, in which case status neutrality sounds perfectly reasonable, or by the Pristina authorities? In the latter case it is hardly surprising that they intend to put their logo on the forms. Bearing in mind all the concessions and sovereignty that Dacic has already given away this seems a trifling matter in comparison. I'm not saying it is right but perhaps not worth spending too much political capital on for fear of looking like the (fat) boy who cried wolf.

If elections are to be held under Kosovo law....what is Dacic's problem?

Latest information coming out of Brussels is that they will comply with the No symbols opn ballot papers.

Another backward step for the Illyrians.
(sj, 26 August 2013 04:59)


sj,

Is this just another delusional rambling on your part? Could you please provide some legitimate substantiation to back you up or do you really expect us to believe you after all your past ridiculously false statements.

For your information Slovenia’s bonds have been relegated to JUNK bond Status.

--------

Just curious.... Has there been a time when Serbia's credit rating hasn't been junk bond status?

You really are full of crap, aren't you, SJ?

Standard and Poor's sovereign ratings:

http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/sovereigns/ratings-list/en/us?sectorName=null&subSectorCode=39&filter=S

Slovenia: A- (no where near 'junk')
Serbia: BB- (3 steps below 'junk)


I actually believed you until I looked it up.

Do you just make everything up to suit your strange, little worldview?

As usual, poor sj is embarrassing himself once again. It appears sj has a serious problem with reading comprehension of English. Also, his spelling is on the level of a 4th grader. Serbia has always had lower credit ratings than both Croatia and Slovenia.

You're really tripping over yourself, sj.

First you say Standard and Poor and I demonstrated you're talking out of your ass, and now you quote Moodys

According to your article, Moody's downgraded Slovenia from Baa2 to Ba1. This is indeed 1 step under junk.

However, Moody's puts Serbia a B2 https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-assigns-B1-ratings-to-Serbia-stable-outlook--PR_277471

that's 4 steps below Slovenia and 5 steps below junk.