"Unpunished crimes threaten to repeat themselves"

"Unpunished crimes threaten to repeat themselves"!!! My question is: why at all they (crimes) should happen? In my opinion, the last is most proper question!
On the other side, Mr. Vulin asks for the reopening of the investigation into the murder of 14 Serb farmers from the village of Staro Gracko in Kosovo", although he fails to get complete enough in his crying over the crimes in general; he should have required a genuine investigation on more than 12.000 masacred Albanians in Kosovo at the same period of time! But he is so silent to the genocide commited over the Albanian population, for the sole reason - they were Albanians, that's wahy they were guilty. - Let me clear myself: I am entirely against any crime, no mater where it comes from, but I am fully against the usage of the fate of the unfortunate people for the sake of politics, as well!

I am 100% up for trying to bring justice to all unresolved crimes, however a part of justice is providing evidence to prove the suspected offender guilty and therefore to be able to punish them accordingly; this is a necessity for justice.
However what I am opposed to is selectively choosing which unsolved crimes should be attempted to be resolved based on ethnicity, to serve political purposes like what Aleksandar Vulin wants to do. All unsolved crimes deserve equally resolving regardless of ethnicity.
I hope that all crimes can be resolved one day so that the friends and families of all victims can attempt to move on properly and in peace!

This article is accompanied by a picture of a memorial service WITH NAMES of the victims. And THAT is my point- stop using these nebulous accusations of Albanian victimization without credible evidence and NAMES!
(Rick, 23 July 2013 18:12)

Rest assured that Albanian victims throughout Kosova have names and pictures on tombstones, including the list of over 1500 missing.

Where is the names of your so called organ trade victims???

"stated that "that every unpunished crime threatens to repeat itself."
An ironic quote from someone who just days ago said there cqnnot be any peace in Kosovo unless Pristina passes an amnesty law for Serbs in Kosovo.

I am so disgusted by the ridiculous arguement that the 14 Serb farmers murders are OK because of the apparent number of Albanians who were supposedly killed by Serbs??? Any crimes commited (murder, theft of land, desecration of churches and cemeteries, etc) by Albanians can ALWAYS be justified by something (where true or not) by something in the past. And how far back does that go? And it's EASY to simply SAY something, without any outright proof or NAMES. This article is accompanied by a picture of a memorial service WITH NAMES of the victims. And THAT is my point- stop using these nebulous accusations of Albanian victimization without credible evidence and NAMES!

Giverr,
Would be nice to see your sources. Never have I seen any source even the Serbian embellished ones that give a number close to 5000 Serbs killed in Kosovo conflict.

How ironic, is he aware of what country he comes from?

"I have been told that EULEX has not come to this village for three years to ask what is happening and to repeat the investigation. On behalf of the Serbian government and the Serbian people and on behalf of every person on planet Earth, I urge the international community and EULEX, as everything is in their hands, to reopen the investigation and tell us the truth quickly," Vulin said.


wow, MIB Vulin has not mention UNMIK this time, yet they(all serb politicians) always mention UNMIK and 1244R as the savoir of Serbia's sovereignty!!! Try to figure these guys out!

Laki, what we need to do is get a clear picture of all crimes in the Balkans, and every perpetrator must be punished. I agree with you that no crime is a good crime. The crimes in the past were ethnically based, and on all sides. If we stop treating them as Serb crimes against Albanians or Albanian crimes against Serbs, but just crimes, we can get real justice. Maybe I am too optimistic but let's treat the criminals as criminals, not Serbs or Albanians. Serbs and Albanians can be friends and lovers too, and I am sure many are.

In response to Laki's post...

Correct me if I am wrong but was it not the Serbian people who gave up their; President, 2 of them as a matter of fact, generals, state officials, soldiers, members of the Serbian secret police? I mean, who have the Albanians give up? Another thing... you mentioned 12,000 Albanians killed. According to ALL western news sources the death toll from the Kosovo conflict WAS roughly 12,000... HOWEVER of those 12,000... 5000 were Serbs! Now... considering that over 90% of the population of Kosovo is Albanian... who's do you think was disproportionate? Justice will be done sooner or later and Mr. Hashi, Cuke, and Ramush will all face justice soon enough.

"although he fails to get complete enough in his crying over the crimes in general; he should have required a genuine investigation on more than 12.000 masacred Albanians in Kosovo at the same period of time! "
(laki, 23 July 2013 16:36)

The problem is: It was not the same period of time, as you claim. These people were killed a month after UN1244 came into force which put Kosovo under UN administration, i.e. not during the civil war in Kosovo/YU.

Alexander Vulin is an incompetent hate monger, constantly trying to incite his people with lies. He should start telling the the truth by revealing the names of those Serbs who supposedly had their organs taken. This fabrication was so frequently reported in the Serb press without once ever stating the names of the Serb "victims".

The only way to keep those crimes unpunished and albanians to defend Thaci and others,is not to recognise Kosovo and block Kosovo on every step.

And this is what Serbia is doing.

I can asure u that albanians dont like Thaci,they like Rugova and his party more than Thaci.
But Serbia did its best to discredit Rugova and his followers and continues to do even today.
Blocking Kocovo in every step,putting stuppid contitions or boycotting meetings where Kosovo is invited,using Russian veto to block Kosovo in UN,where more than 100 countries already have recognised as independet,just help Thaci and his allies to stay in power and this crime to be unpunished.
So if you want Thaci and Haradinaj in power and this crime to be unpunieshed,keep doing what you have done to K-Alb for the last 100 years.Serbian politicans are everything but visionars when it comes to Kosovo.

As for the victims,God bless their souls!

"Rest assured that Albanian victims throughout Kosova have names and pictures on tombstones, including the list of over 1500 missing. Where is the names of your so called organ trade victims???"
(the truth, 24 July 2013 07:51)

They will be found amongst the names on the list of Serbs missing from Kosovo. Since they are missing and their remains are not found, there are no names and pictures on tombstones for these.

truth,
The challenge is to you and Giverrs as he quoted 5000 Serbs killed in Kosovo and you support that, but yet there is nothing from the Albanian, international or Serbian side that supports anything close to that number. So I say put up or shut up, show your proof.

Deadwrong... if you have the guts, or if ANY albanian here has the cuts to post... please tell me HOW many Serbs Albanians killed. Civilian & military please (as the 12,000 figure included BOTH). Then also tell me how many Serbs were killed as a result of NATO airstrikes from 20,000ft for 79 days? Hmmmm???? Lets hear it straight from the horses mouth?... If you challenge Giverrrs comment. I think he is 100% right.

In response to Laki's post...

Correct me if I am wrong but was it not the Serbian people who gave up their; President, 2 of them as a matter of fact, generals, state officials, soldiers, members of the Serbian secret police? I mean, who have the Albanians give up? Another thing... you mentioned 12,000 Albanians killed. According to ALL western news sources the death toll from the Kosovo conflict WAS roughly 12,000... HOWEVER of those 12,000... 5000 were Serbs! Now... considering that over 90% of the population of Kosovo is Albanian... who's do you think was disproportionate? Justice will be done sooner or later and Mr. Hashi, Cuke, and Ramush will all face justice soon enough.

"Unpunished crimes threaten to repeat themselves"!!! My question is: why at all they (crimes) should happen? In my opinion, the last is most proper question!
On the other side, Mr. Vulin asks for the reopening of the investigation into the murder of 14 Serb farmers from the village of Staro Gracko in Kosovo", although he fails to get complete enough in his crying over the crimes in general; he should have required a genuine investigation on more than 12.000 masacred Albanians in Kosovo at the same period of time! But he is so silent to the genocide commited over the Albanian population, for the sole reason - they were Albanians, that's wahy they were guilty. - Let me clear myself: I am entirely against any crime, no mater where it comes from, but I am fully against the usage of the fate of the unfortunate people for the sake of politics, as well!

"although he fails to get complete enough in his crying over the crimes in general; he should have required a genuine investigation on more than 12.000 masacred Albanians in Kosovo at the same period of time! "
(laki, 23 July 2013 16:36)

The problem is: It was not the same period of time, as you claim. These people were killed a month after UN1244 came into force which put Kosovo under UN administration, i.e. not during the civil war in Kosovo/YU.

I am so disgusted by the ridiculous arguement that the 14 Serb farmers murders are OK because of the apparent number of Albanians who were supposedly killed by Serbs??? Any crimes commited (murder, theft of land, desecration of churches and cemeteries, etc) by Albanians can ALWAYS be justified by something (where true or not) by something in the past. And how far back does that go? And it's EASY to simply SAY something, without any outright proof or NAMES. This article is accompanied by a picture of a memorial service WITH NAMES of the victims. And THAT is my point- stop using these nebulous accusations of Albanian victimization without credible evidence and NAMES!

This article is accompanied by a picture of a memorial service WITH NAMES of the victims. And THAT is my point- stop using these nebulous accusations of Albanian victimization without credible evidence and NAMES!
(Rick, 23 July 2013 18:12)

Rest assured that Albanian victims throughout Kosova have names and pictures on tombstones, including the list of over 1500 missing.

Where is the names of your so called organ trade victims???

"stated that "that every unpunished crime threatens to repeat itself."
An ironic quote from someone who just days ago said there cqnnot be any peace in Kosovo unless Pristina passes an amnesty law for Serbs in Kosovo.

Giverr,
Would be nice to see your sources. Never have I seen any source even the Serbian embellished ones that give a number close to 5000 Serbs killed in Kosovo conflict.

"Rest assured that Albanian victims throughout Kosova have names and pictures on tombstones, including the list of over 1500 missing. Where is the names of your so called organ trade victims???"
(the truth, 24 July 2013 07:51)

They will be found amongst the names on the list of Serbs missing from Kosovo. Since they are missing and their remains are not found, there are no names and pictures on tombstones for these.

"I have been told that EULEX has not come to this village for three years to ask what is happening and to repeat the investigation. On behalf of the Serbian government and the Serbian people and on behalf of every person on planet Earth, I urge the international community and EULEX, as everything is in their hands, to reopen the investigation and tell us the truth quickly," Vulin said.


wow, MIB Vulin has not mention UNMIK this time, yet they(all serb politicians) always mention UNMIK and 1244R as the savoir of Serbia's sovereignty!!! Try to figure these guys out!

Laki, what we need to do is get a clear picture of all crimes in the Balkans, and every perpetrator must be punished. I agree with you that no crime is a good crime. The crimes in the past were ethnically based, and on all sides. If we stop treating them as Serb crimes against Albanians or Albanian crimes against Serbs, but just crimes, we can get real justice. Maybe I am too optimistic but let's treat the criminals as criminals, not Serbs or Albanians. Serbs and Albanians can be friends and lovers too, and I am sure many are.

I am 100% up for trying to bring justice to all unresolved crimes, however a part of justice is providing evidence to prove the suspected offender guilty and therefore to be able to punish them accordingly; this is a necessity for justice.
However what I am opposed to is selectively choosing which unsolved crimes should be attempted to be resolved based on ethnicity, to serve political purposes like what Aleksandar Vulin wants to do. All unsolved crimes deserve equally resolving regardless of ethnicity.
I hope that all crimes can be resolved one day so that the friends and families of all victims can attempt to move on properly and in peace!

Deadwrong... if you have the guts, or if ANY albanian here has the cuts to post... please tell me HOW many Serbs Albanians killed. Civilian & military please (as the 12,000 figure included BOTH). Then also tell me how many Serbs were killed as a result of NATO airstrikes from 20,000ft for 79 days? Hmmmm???? Lets hear it straight from the horses mouth?... If you challenge Giverrrs comment. I think he is 100% right.

Alexander Vulin is an incompetent hate monger, constantly trying to incite his people with lies. He should start telling the the truth by revealing the names of those Serbs who supposedly had their organs taken. This fabrication was so frequently reported in the Serb press without once ever stating the names of the Serb "victims".

How ironic, is he aware of what country he comes from?

truth,
The challenge is to you and Giverrs as he quoted 5000 Serbs killed in Kosovo and you support that, but yet there is nothing from the Albanian, international or Serbian side that supports anything close to that number. So I say put up or shut up, show your proof.

The only way to keep those crimes unpunished and albanians to defend Thaci and others,is not to recognise Kosovo and block Kosovo on every step.

And this is what Serbia is doing.

I can asure u that albanians dont like Thaci,they like Rugova and his party more than Thaci.
But Serbia did its best to discredit Rugova and his followers and continues to do even today.
Blocking Kocovo in every step,putting stuppid contitions or boycotting meetings where Kosovo is invited,using Russian veto to block Kosovo in UN,where more than 100 countries already have recognised as independet,just help Thaci and his allies to stay in power and this crime to be unpunished.
So if you want Thaci and Haradinaj in power and this crime to be unpunieshed,keep doing what you have done to K-Alb for the last 100 years.Serbian politicans are everything but visionars when it comes to Kosovo.

As for the victims,God bless their souls!