53% eh? What a load of horse manure. Give me the resources and I can get a 60% of Israelis to say they think Hitler was a good guy.
(sj, 20 July 2013 11:15)
What resources? just do what you usually do make the claim and when someone ask you for verifying sources start out on the US debt and problems etc, etc, and abandon the real subject.
Ian,UK is an occasional contributor(Ian James Anderson)to wacko (his word) Roberto Russo Russ Frisco (or whomever he is on any given day) and Willi's blog called Kosovo-net. You can also find Ian, UK on facebook and he has as his friends, wacko Roberto Russo Russ Frisco and Willi. Pretty obvious from his writings on B92.
The website is substandard at best, their purpose is to demonize all Serbs and to spread hate. Rather pathetic that this is the major vehicle Roberto Russo Russ Frisco etc, etc, uses to "feel" like a journalist. Their use of photo shop to create really childish images is so unprofessional and immature ... it is obvious they are not true professionals.
Ian,UK is just another young kid from a small village in the United Kingdom who uses the internet- like Roberto Russo Russ Frisco and Willi- to feel important.
I've already demonstrated on this forum that I live in Belgrade. If you're curious, search the comments of one of the 2-3 posts about Croatians protesting the Croatian government about cyrillic.
At any rate. I'm not sure why this has to be explained to anyone, but "you Croat!" isn't a response to anything I've said. Well, it is, I guess. It's the response of someone in the west living in some weird imaginary balkans house-of-mirrors of their own creation.
Remember that Ireland held referendums until the population did as directed and voted in favour.Their economy has been doing fabulously ever since, hasn't it? (Dorothy, 19. jul 2013 15:20) Ireland's economy has been grow for almost 2 years now. Ireland owes being a first world country thanks to the EU.
What is your connection to Serbia/Balkans that makes you credible, Ian? Is it your Oxenhope, West Yorkshire roots? I know, it is your association with little Willi from Germany and Robert Russo Rope from San Fran.
(Roger7, 19 July 2013 20:58)
Oxenhope, West Yorkshire??? But I thought I was meant to be an Albanian pretending to be British. Same with Willi and Robert. They are Albanians pretending to German and American right?
I would love for you to come to my village, I'll show you who's boss!
And stop sending me them outrageous obscene inappropriate pictures of yourself on facebook you weirdo. You're a wrong 'un!
Ian U K,who the hell do you think you are?WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.Let me remind you,the Nazi bastard{s} that you love, killed thousands of BritS in WWI and WWII.Many more would have died if it weren't for the thousands of Serbs who died fighting the the "BASTARD"Nazi{s}and their Nazi allies,Croatia,Austria,Hungary and Albania,and other Nazi lovers.
(Pete K., 19 July 2013 18:36)
I'm not going to bother responding to that properly, such a comment doesn't deserve a proper response. All I'm going to say is that I genuinely feel sorry for you.
I'm surprised that B92 posted your comment, their policy states "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published."
What does it matter. He never claims to have a biological connection and he's definitely more knowledgeable about Serbia than Ari, Peggy and the rest of the hobby Serbs who claim to know so much about Serbia.
WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.
(Pete K., 19 July 2013 18:36)
I think my response to your argument has been plain and clear enough, but then again you're a person who claims not to have ever seen nor heard of Croats today performing Nazi salutes.
It appears that you choose to be either deaf, dumb, or blind, depending on what's most useful to your agenda.
Funny that you dismiss the relevance of your ethnicity yet at the same time denigrate the opinions of what you refer to as "disconnected" diaspora Serbs simply because they no longer live in the former Yugoslavia.
On an English speaking forum.
Many became part of that very diaspora because of ethnic cleansing at the hands of your Croat relatives and your Albanian friends.
And you doubt that many have even met an Albanian?
No doubt it would be even more convenient for you if they were completely silenced as well.
It's obvious that you don't live in in the former Yugoslavia either.
If not a Croatian citizen definitely of Croatian descent.
Don't you think your opinions would be more relevant and more valued elsewhere on some Croatian forum?
Ian, UK said, "I like the way you used the term "our people". Aren't you American or Australian or something and that your great great granddad's best friend's cousin once had a dog from Serbia or something? LOL"
What is your connection to Serbia/Balkans that makes you credible, Ian? Is it your Oxenhope, West Yorkshire roots? I know, it is your association with little Willi from Germany and Robert Russo Rope from San Fran.
Ian U K,who the hell do you think you are?WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.Let me remind you,the Nazi bastard{s} that you love, killed thousands of BritS in WWI and WWII.Many more would have died if it weren't for the thousands of Serbs who died fighting the the "BASTARD"Nazi{s}and their Nazi allies,Croatia,Austria,Hungary and Albania,and other Nazi lovers.
It shows some serious lacking in both intellect and self-control when someone is unable to respond to the points someone makes, yet still feels compelled to respond.
Doubly so when the response is some sort of questioning of the other's ethnic identity.
LOL 53% for an organization that Serbia will either way not join this decade. Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
(Ari Gold, 19 July 2013 13:01)
Do you even know what Communism is? Well obviously you don't because if you did, you would know that Serbia never experienced Communism, Serbia experienced Titoism which was a watered down semi-capitalist version of attempted Socialism.
I like the way you used the term "our people". Aren't you American or Australian or something and that your great great granddad's best friend's cousin once had a dog from Serbia or something? LOL
Remember that Ireland held referendums until the population did as directed and voted in favour.
Their economy has been doing fabulously ever since, hasn't it?
Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
(Ari Gold, 19 July 2013 13:01)
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Ari, and find it very strange that you associate me with communism. Does someone moving across the world to take advantage of cheap labour rates sound like a communist to you? LOL
You're absolutely right, though. It's because of communism and the legacy of communism that this entire region is in so much of the trouble it is in today. It's due to the legacy of communism that this region isn't able to just fix itself and needs an outside blueprint - like the EU assension process - is to reform.
LOL 53% for an organization that Serbia will either way not join this decade. Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
Just for curiosity: In case of an referendum or an election, do those hobby Serbs who decided to live on the other side of the earth or in any other state far away else have the right to vote about the future of a country which they only know from their annual 3-4 weeks of holidays?
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 19 July 2013 11:32)
It's definitely weird how disconnected the hobby-Serbs are from the real Serbia. And also weird how little they actually know about it. They just make stuff up. The parties in power campaigned on a pro-EU platform and now they're shocked that they are perusing EU membership. They say stuff like "referendum NOW", clearly ignorant to the fact that a referendum is a necessary part of the process. They think DSS will be next in power, somehow oblivious to the fact that their support halves each election.
This is why I say that, unfortunately, their free-floating hatred which has been focused on Albanians (none of them having probably ever met a real-life Albanian in their lives), will now be focused on Serbs who fail to conform to their notion, from Australia, of what a "real Serb" should think like.
A referendum is needed now. Then we'll be able to see just how many people in Serbia support EU membership.
Why is the government so afraid of it?
(Peggy, 19 July 2013 00:47)
Before Serbia can join the EU, constitutionally there has to be a referendum on EU membership. Just like Croatia had a referendum on EU membership.
The Government isn't affraid of holding a referendum because the majority of real Serbs support the EU unlike you plastic hobby Serbs on the other side of the world. This is why Serbia keeps voting pro-EU parties into power in Serbia. Anti-EU parties like the DSS and the SRS don't have the support of the people here in Serbia.
Actually, what "happened" to Serbia, grobar, is that it never was like the pretend version you heard all about in some church basement or some 'serbian night' in some dreary pub on a Wednesday night in the outskirts of some major North American or Australian city.
"Professor Predrag Simic of the Faculty of Political Sciences said that the countries wishing to access the EU need to access NATO because the EU and NATO are two parts of the same unit, the trans-Atlantic community or the West."
So, the EU is 'The West' and a trans-Atlantic community. Romania is a western country? And how come that there are NATO countries which aren't EU members, and several EU countries that are not NATO members, though it's 'the same unit' ?
And I thought professors know about about the world - probably not in Serbia.
"Professor Predrag Simic of the Faculty of Political Sciences said that the countries wishing to access the EU need to access NATO because the EU and NATO are two parts of the same unit, the trans-Atlantic community or the West."
So, the EU is 'The West' and a trans-Atlantic community. Romania is a western country? And how come that there are NATO countries which aren't EU members, and several EU countries that are not NATO members, though it's 'the same unit' ?
And I thought professors know about about the world - probably not in Serbia.
A referendum is needed now. Then we'll be able to see just how many people in Serbia support EU membership.
Why is the government so afraid of it?
(Peggy, 19 July 2013 00:47)
Before Serbia can join the EU, constitutionally there has to be a referendum on EU membership. Just like Croatia had a referendum on EU membership.
The Government isn't affraid of holding a referendum because the majority of real Serbs support the EU unlike you plastic hobby Serbs on the other side of the world. This is why Serbia keeps voting pro-EU parties into power in Serbia. Anti-EU parties like the DSS and the SRS don't have the support of the people here in Serbia.
Actually, what "happened" to Serbia, grobar, is that it never was like the pretend version you heard all about in some church basement or some 'serbian night' in some dreary pub on a Wednesday night in the outskirts of some major North American or Australian city.
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 19 July 2013 11:32)
It's definitely weird how disconnected the hobby-Serbs are from the real Serbia. And also weird how little they actually know about it. They just make stuff up. The parties in power campaigned on a pro-EU platform and now they're shocked that they are perusing EU membership. They say stuff like "referendum NOW", clearly ignorant to the fact that a referendum is a necessary part of the process. They think DSS will be next in power, somehow oblivious to the fact that their support halves each election.
This is why I say that, unfortunately, their free-floating hatred which has been focused on Albanians (none of them having probably ever met a real-life Albanian in their lives), will now be focused on Serbs who fail to conform to their notion, from Australia, of what a "real Serb" should think like.
LOL 53% for an organization that Serbia will either way not join this decade. Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
(Ari Gold, 19 July 2013 13:01)
Do you even know what Communism is? Well obviously you don't because if you did, you would know that Serbia never experienced Communism, Serbia experienced Titoism which was a watered down semi-capitalist version of attempted Socialism.
I like the way you used the term "our people". Aren't you American or Australian or something and that your great great granddad's best friend's cousin once had a dog from Serbia or something? LOL
Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
(Ari Gold, 19 July 2013 13:01)
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Ari, and find it very strange that you associate me with communism. Does someone moving across the world to take advantage of cheap labour rates sound like a communist to you? LOL
You're absolutely right, though. It's because of communism and the legacy of communism that this entire region is in so much of the trouble it is in today. It's due to the legacy of communism that this region isn't able to just fix itself and needs an outside blueprint - like the EU assension process - is to reform.
It shows some serious lacking in both intellect and self-control when someone is unable to respond to the points someone makes, yet still feels compelled to respond.
Doubly so when the response is some sort of questioning of the other's ethnic identity.
Ian U K,who the hell do you think you are?WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.Let me remind you,the Nazi bastard{s} that you love, killed thousands of BritS in WWI and WWII.Many more would have died if it weren't for the thousands of Serbs who died fighting the the "BASTARD"Nazi{s}and their Nazi allies,Croatia,Austria,Hungary and Albania,and other Nazi lovers.
Ian U K,who the hell do you think you are?WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.Let me remind you,the Nazi bastard{s} that you love, killed thousands of BritS in WWI and WWII.Many more would have died if it weren't for the thousands of Serbs who died fighting the the "BASTARD"Nazi{s}and their Nazi allies,Croatia,Austria,Hungary and Albania,and other Nazi lovers.
(Pete K., 19 July 2013 18:36)
I'm not going to bother responding to that properly, such a comment doesn't deserve a proper response. All I'm going to say is that I genuinely feel sorry for you.
I'm surprised that B92 posted your comment, their policy states "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published."
Just for curiosity: In case of an referendum or an election, do those hobby Serbs who decided to live on the other side of the earth or in any other state far away else have the right to vote about the future of a country which they only know from their annual 3-4 weeks of holidays?
Ian, UK said, "I like the way you used the term "our people". Aren't you American or Australian or something and that your great great granddad's best friend's cousin once had a dog from Serbia or something? LOL"
What is your connection to Serbia/Balkans that makes you credible, Ian? Is it your Oxenhope, West Yorkshire roots? I know, it is your association with little Willi from Germany and Robert Russo Rope from San Fran.
I've already demonstrated on this forum that I live in Belgrade. If you're curious, search the comments of one of the 2-3 posts about Croatians protesting the Croatian government about cyrillic.
At any rate. I'm not sure why this has to be explained to anyone, but "you Croat!" isn't a response to anything I've said. Well, it is, I guess. It's the response of someone in the west living in some weird imaginary balkans house-of-mirrors of their own creation.
Ian,UK is an occasional contributor(Ian James Anderson)to wacko (his word) Roberto Russo Russ Frisco (or whomever he is on any given day) and Willi's blog called Kosovo-net. You can also find Ian, UK on facebook and he has as his friends, wacko Roberto Russo Russ Frisco and Willi. Pretty obvious from his writings on B92.
The website is substandard at best, their purpose is to demonize all Serbs and to spread hate. Rather pathetic that this is the major vehicle Roberto Russo Russ Frisco etc, etc, uses to "feel" like a journalist. Their use of photo shop to create really childish images is so unprofessional and immature ... it is obvious they are not true professionals.
Ian,UK is just another young kid from a small village in the United Kingdom who uses the internet- like Roberto Russo Russ Frisco and Willi- to feel important.
LOL 53% for an organization that Serbia will either way not join this decade. Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
What is your connection to Serbia/Balkans that makes you credible, Ian? Is it your Oxenhope, West Yorkshire roots? I know, it is your association with little Willi from Germany and Robert Russo Rope from San Fran.
(Roger7, 19 July 2013 20:58)
Oxenhope, West Yorkshire??? But I thought I was meant to be an Albanian pretending to be British. Same with Willi and Robert. They are Albanians pretending to German and American right?
I would love for you to come to my village, I'll show you who's boss!
And stop sending me them outrageous obscene inappropriate pictures of yourself on facebook you weirdo. You're a wrong 'un!
Remember that Ireland held referendums until the population did as directed and voted in favour.Their economy has been doing fabulously ever since, hasn't it? (Dorothy, 19. jul 2013 15:20) Ireland's economy has been grow for almost 2 years now. Ireland owes being a first world country thanks to the EU.
Remember that Ireland held referendums until the population did as directed and voted in favour.
Their economy has been doing fabulously ever since, hasn't it?
I think my response to your argument has been plain and clear enough, but then again you're a person who claims not to have ever seen nor heard of Croats today performing Nazi salutes.
It appears that you choose to be either deaf, dumb, or blind, depending on what's most useful to your agenda.
Funny that you dismiss the relevance of your ethnicity yet at the same time denigrate the opinions of what you refer to as "disconnected" diaspora Serbs simply because they no longer live in the former Yugoslavia.
On an English speaking forum.
Many became part of that very diaspora because of ethnic cleansing at the hands of your Croat relatives and your Albanian friends.
And you doubt that many have even met an Albanian?
No doubt it would be even more convenient for you if they were completely silenced as well.
It's obvious that you don't live in in the former Yugoslavia either.
If not a Croatian citizen definitely of Croatian descent.
Don't you think your opinions would be more relevant and more valued elsewhere on some Croatian forum?
What does it matter. He never claims to have a biological connection and he's definitely more knowledgeable about Serbia than Ari, Peggy and the rest of the hobby Serbs who claim to know so much about Serbia.
WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.
(Pete K., 19 July 2013 18:36)
53% eh? What a load of horse manure. Give me the resources and I can get a 60% of Israelis to say they think Hitler was a good guy.
(sj, 20 July 2013 11:15)
What resources? just do what you usually do make the claim and when someone ask you for verifying sources start out on the US debt and problems etc, etc, and abandon the real subject.
Ian U K,who the hell do you think you are?WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.Let me remind you,the Nazi bastard{s} that you love, killed thousands of BritS in WWI and WWII.Many more would have died if it weren't for the thousands of Serbs who died fighting the the "BASTARD"Nazi{s}and their Nazi allies,Croatia,Austria,Hungary and Albania,and other Nazi lovers.
Actually, what "happened" to Serbia, grobar, is that it never was like the pretend version you heard all about in some church basement or some 'serbian night' in some dreary pub on a Wednesday night in the outskirts of some major North American or Australian city.
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 19 July 2013 11:32)
It's definitely weird how disconnected the hobby-Serbs are from the real Serbia. And also weird how little they actually know about it. They just make stuff up. The parties in power campaigned on a pro-EU platform and now they're shocked that they are perusing EU membership. They say stuff like "referendum NOW", clearly ignorant to the fact that a referendum is a necessary part of the process. They think DSS will be next in power, somehow oblivious to the fact that their support halves each election.
This is why I say that, unfortunately, their free-floating hatred which has been focused on Albanians (none of them having probably ever met a real-life Albanian in their lives), will now be focused on Serbs who fail to conform to their notion, from Australia, of what a "real Serb" should think like.
Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
(Ari Gold, 19 July 2013 13:01)
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Ari, and find it very strange that you associate me with communism. Does someone moving across the world to take advantage of cheap labour rates sound like a communist to you? LOL
You're absolutely right, though. It's because of communism and the legacy of communism that this entire region is in so much of the trouble it is in today. It's due to the legacy of communism that this region isn't able to just fix itself and needs an outside blueprint - like the EU assension process - is to reform.
Ian, UK said, "I like the way you used the term "our people". Aren't you American or Australian or something and that your great great granddad's best friend's cousin once had a dog from Serbia or something? LOL"
What is your connection to Serbia/Balkans that makes you credible, Ian? Is it your Oxenhope, West Yorkshire roots? I know, it is your association with little Willi from Germany and Robert Russo Rope from San Fran.
Just for curiosity: In case of an referendum or an election, do those hobby Serbs who decided to live on the other side of the earth or in any other state far away else have the right to vote about the future of a country which they only know from their annual 3-4 weeks of holidays?
It shows some serious lacking in both intellect and self-control when someone is unable to respond to the points someone makes, yet still feels compelled to respond.
Doubly so when the response is some sort of questioning of the other's ethnic identity.
"Professor Predrag Simic of the Faculty of Political Sciences said that the countries wishing to access the EU need to access NATO because the EU and NATO are two parts of the same unit, the trans-Atlantic community or the West."
So, the EU is 'The West' and a trans-Atlantic community. Romania is a western country? And how come that there are NATO countries which aren't EU members, and several EU countries that are not NATO members, though it's 'the same unit' ?
And I thought professors know about about the world - probably not in Serbia.
A referendum is needed now. Then we'll be able to see just how many people in Serbia support EU membership.
Why is the government so afraid of it?
(Peggy, 19 July 2013 00:47)
Before Serbia can join the EU, constitutionally there has to be a referendum on EU membership. Just like Croatia had a referendum on EU membership.
The Government isn't affraid of holding a referendum because the majority of real Serbs support the EU unlike you plastic hobby Serbs on the other side of the world. This is why Serbia keeps voting pro-EU parties into power in Serbia. Anti-EU parties like the DSS and the SRS don't have the support of the people here in Serbia.
I think my response to your argument has been plain and clear enough, but then again you're a person who claims not to have ever seen nor heard of Croats today performing Nazi salutes.
It appears that you choose to be either deaf, dumb, or blind, depending on what's most useful to your agenda.
Funny that you dismiss the relevance of your ethnicity yet at the same time denigrate the opinions of what you refer to as "disconnected" diaspora Serbs simply because they no longer live in the former Yugoslavia.
On an English speaking forum.
Many became part of that very diaspora because of ethnic cleansing at the hands of your Croat relatives and your Albanian friends.
And you doubt that many have even met an Albanian?
No doubt it would be even more convenient for you if they were completely silenced as well.
It's obvious that you don't live in in the former Yugoslavia either.
If not a Croatian citizen definitely of Croatian descent.
Don't you think your opinions would be more relevant and more valued elsewhere on some Croatian forum?
Ian U K,who the hell do you think you are?WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.Let me remind you,the Nazi bastard{s} that you love, killed thousands of BritS in WWI and WWII.Many more would have died if it weren't for the thousands of Serbs who died fighting the the "BASTARD"Nazi{s}and their Nazi allies,Croatia,Austria,Hungary and Albania,and other Nazi lovers.
(Pete K., 19 July 2013 18:36)
I'm not going to bother responding to that properly, such a comment doesn't deserve a proper response. All I'm going to say is that I genuinely feel sorry for you.
I'm surprised that B92 posted your comment, their policy states "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published."
What is your connection to Serbia/Balkans that makes you credible, Ian? Is it your Oxenhope, West Yorkshire roots? I know, it is your association with little Willi from Germany and Robert Russo Rope from San Fran.
(Roger7, 19 July 2013 20:58)
Oxenhope, West Yorkshire??? But I thought I was meant to be an Albanian pretending to be British. Same with Willi and Robert. They are Albanians pretending to German and American right?
I would love for you to come to my village, I'll show you who's boss!
And stop sending me them outrageous obscene inappropriate pictures of yourself on facebook you weirdo. You're a wrong 'un!
LOL 53% for an organization that Serbia will either way not join this decade. Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
Remember that Ireland held referendums until the population did as directed and voted in favour.
Their economy has been doing fabulously ever since, hasn't it?
LOL 53% for an organization that Serbia will either way not join this decade. Communism really mentally shattered a good portion of our people (Danilo)
(Ari Gold, 19 July 2013 13:01)
Do you even know what Communism is? Well obviously you don't because if you did, you would know that Serbia never experienced Communism, Serbia experienced Titoism which was a watered down semi-capitalist version of attempted Socialism.
I like the way you used the term "our people". Aren't you American or Australian or something and that your great great granddad's best friend's cousin once had a dog from Serbia or something? LOL
Remember that Ireland held referendums until the population did as directed and voted in favour.Their economy has been doing fabulously ever since, hasn't it? (Dorothy, 19. jul 2013 15:20) Ireland's economy has been grow for almost 2 years now. Ireland owes being a first world country thanks to the EU.
What does it matter. He never claims to have a biological connection and he's definitely more knowledgeable about Serbia than Ari, Peggy and the rest of the hobby Serbs who claim to know so much about Serbia.
WE{I} know you are a Serb hater.
(Pete K., 19 July 2013 18:36)
I've already demonstrated on this forum that I live in Belgrade. If you're curious, search the comments of one of the 2-3 posts about Croatians protesting the Croatian government about cyrillic.
At any rate. I'm not sure why this has to be explained to anyone, but "you Croat!" isn't a response to anything I've said. Well, it is, I guess. It's the response of someone in the west living in some weird imaginary balkans house-of-mirrors of their own creation.
Ian,UK is an occasional contributor(Ian James Anderson)to wacko (his word) Roberto Russo Russ Frisco (or whomever he is on any given day) and Willi's blog called Kosovo-net. You can also find Ian, UK on facebook and he has as his friends, wacko Roberto Russo Russ Frisco and Willi. Pretty obvious from his writings on B92.
The website is substandard at best, their purpose is to demonize all Serbs and to spread hate. Rather pathetic that this is the major vehicle Roberto Russo Russ Frisco etc, etc, uses to "feel" like a journalist. Their use of photo shop to create really childish images is so unprofessional and immature ... it is obvious they are not true professionals.
Ian,UK is just another young kid from a small village in the United Kingdom who uses the internet- like Roberto Russo Russ Frisco and Willi- to feel important.
53% eh? What a load of horse manure. Give me the resources and I can get a 60% of Israelis to say they think Hitler was a good guy.
(sj, 20 July 2013 11:15)
What resources? just do what you usually do make the claim and when someone ask you for verifying sources start out on the US debt and problems etc, etc, and abandon the real subject.
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