Russian, Serbian patriarchs criticize Serbian government

Looks like we'll have to count on the KSerbs and the patriarchs to save Serbia from itself.

Jesus Christ, save us from these unholy people ....
(Willi Pfaff, 17 July 2013 16:07)

Hey Jesus, how about coming on down to Kosova* and save folks from these here atheist commie Albo KLA human-trafficking organ-harvesting chicken and sheep molesting narco terrorists???

Jesus Christ, save us from these unholy people ....

This government does not have the support of the church or the people regarding KiM. The ultimatum will eventually fail and this opportunity that could have brought lasting peace to the region will be a missed one. What a shame.

It just plants another seed leading to future conflict. Not surprising, NATO and the West are playing the leading role. They are plagued with one failure after another.

Jesus Christ, save us from these unholy people ....
(Willi Pfaff, 17 July 2013 16:07)
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You don't even belong to our religion so why don't you just shut up.
Jesus Christ, save us from Willi Pfaff.
Why do you Albanians always have to meddle in someone else's affairs? Keep to your own and out of our way.

Serbian government is a disgrace and should be removed asap. They will go down in history as the traitors they truly are. I hope that their families end up hanging heir heads in shame for not speaking up against them. Their descendents will having to feel proud of so hopefully these traitors will keep that in mind.

God be with you,Patriarch Irine and Patriarch Kirill II.

The Russian guy's head gear looks a lot like the WWI German helmets. Silly old men in silly clothes.
(Mikel B., 18 July 2013 03:39
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Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.

So, basically, what you're saying, Peggy, is that no one who is not a member of the Catholic church is allowed to comment on Catholic priests molesting kids?

The Catholic church should try that line in court. "you're asking for compensation for getting molested in a Catholic school? You're not even Catholic, so STFU" :)
(Danilo, 18 July 2013 10:31)
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Molesting children is a criminal offense and everyone has a right to get involved.
What you Albanians are doing here disrespecting or questioning how we conduct our church is not on. We, the Serbian Orthodox are part of that church and have every right to have an opinion.
If the church clergy starts to molest children then you have the right to make it your business.
Until then try to restrain yourself from making an arse of yourself.
Danilo, you are showing every day how hateful you are and that is now having an affect on your mind.

Kosovo could only stay Serbian through a new War !.

This Current Serbian Government,
can only focus on Preserving Vojvodina,
at the best.

Spremte se Spremte !.

Arn.Sweden.

Molesting children is a criminal offense and everyone has a right to get involved.
What you Albanians are doing here disrespecting or questioning how we conduct our church is not on. We, the Serbian Orthodox are part of that church and have every right to have an opinion.
If the church clergy starts to molest children then you have the right to make it your business.
Until then try to restrain yourself from making an arse of yourself.
Danilo, you are showing every day how hateful you are and that is now having an affect on your mind.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:34)

So let me get this straight, you're only allowed to criticise a religion if the holy men of that religion start molesting children?

I struggled to identify any hate in Danilo's comment.

Don't worry Serbian goverment God laughs at those so called pathetic "holy men". Even says Mat 23:15 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Priests, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. This is also what he says of the self pretencious holy man. Jhn 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. The religoustys wolves in disguise leading the the poor blind sheeps to their eternal doom.

Willy, the NSA and western foreign intelligence agencies might be reading these posts, but I doubt Jesus is.

The Russian guy's head gear looks a lot like the WWI German helmets. Silly old men in silly clothes.

There goes, Lenard, using Scripture to spread hate. He is an embarrassment to his Protestant brothers and to his Croatian Catholics brothers that he also condemns.

Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:37)


no, It's exactly the same kind of silly. Though, not so sure I'd include turbans. Those guys haven't ever cut their hair. You've gotta respect some dude getting up every morning and weaving his hair into that thing.


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What you Albanians are doing here disrespecting or questioning how we conduct our church is not on.
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I'm Albanian again? Yesterday I was a Croat. Don't you get tired of being so inconsistent? As for your point, everything is open to comment to everyone. You're little church isn't immune just because it happens to be special to you and it might upset you if someone said something that hurt your feelers. Besides, you comment rancorously all the time on things and in a manner that would offend people - that is intended to offend people - and I support you, Peggy :)

So, why am I "hateful" again? Because I said that no institution should be above criticism. This makes me "hateful"?

"You don't even belong to our religion so why don't you just shut up. "


So, basically, what you're saying, Peggy, is that no one who is not a member of the Catholic church is allowed to comment on Catholic priests molesting kids?

The Catholic church should try that line in court. "you're asking for compensation for getting molested in a Catholic school? You're not even Catholic, so STFU" :)

Danilo, you are showing every day how hateful you are and that is now having an affect on your mind.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:34)

hear, hear Peggy, I think you were actually talking to yourself once more...

"So, basically, what you're saying, Peggy, is that no one who is not a member of the Catholic church is allowed to comment on Catholic priests molesting kids? "
(Danilo, 18 July 2013 10:31)

What about that: "Peggy, you are not even living in Serbia (for whatever reason, I won't speculate, probably you are an refugee emigrated under the economic depression caused by the glorious Milosevic and his politics), so why don't you simply shut up and care for the country where you are living?"

wow, what indignant entitlement comaing from some of the grand and glorious politicios danilo and mr international court herself.
if you are not a member of a social group, and as long as that social group behaves within its own social superset's laws, then you do not have a right to interject your irrelevant opinions.
an englishman has no right to tell a kenyan how to live his life. a catholic has no right to tell a hindu how to pray or run their sub-society. if you don't vote, shut up about the government. if you don't belong to a specific church, shut up about what that church's internal practices are, and what its opinions are. its a standard pay-to-play model.
the problem is, is that too many people are of the opinion that thier national interferences are for the best, but they truely don't have a right to interfer, and subsequerntly tend to invent pretence for interference, and now the weak children of these morally flawed societies are set up to feel entitled to tell everyone that they must act and think, not as they wish, or their own society wishes, but rather how the they are being told how to think because it is always the "right" way...

Peggy

It's well known from past articles relating to the Orthodox Church that Albanians and gays are very hateful towards it.

Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:37)

Haha Peggy, you're trying to counteract by mocking with the attire of another religion. That too is frigging hilarious, and don't forget about the pedophiles in the Vatican in funny hats. FYI, all of them without exception are B...S... But the ones I can't stomach is old farts like the ones above sticking their noses in human/political matters. They should focus on their fairy tale deities and leave people matters to people. Because if god truly loved orthodoxs as is in this case, Kosovo would be Serbian and not in the hands of "moon&star" heretics. There is no difference between them and allah humpers.

Exact same kind of silly. All of you believe in your fairy tales and will start wars over them.
(ItalianoAmericano, 18 July 2013 21:24)
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So what do you believe in? The mighty dollar? What exactly?
It is not important if I or anyone else believes or doesn't believe in scripture. What is important is that there should be no attacks and mocking of people representing it. So, when someone goes on the attack of my religion I will fire back at theirs, for they don't deserve anything better.
I did not attack his religion or how people choose to represent it here, but if this moron thinks he can attack mine and not get a response equalling his then he is mistaken.

Live and let live but this is not the way Albanians choose to live.

The Serbian government only cares about eu membership and has decided to totally recognize Kosovo as an independent nation and plans on abolishing all serbias politcal parties in Kosovo and have one Kosovo Serb political party and register it with pristina for the pristina elections!! The majority of Serbs always vote for this! Serbs also support Kosovo independence for eu membership because the leaders have not been removed or even demonstrated against!

""We are offering our unreserved support to the SPC righteous position in terms of Kosovo-Metohija and we will remain in the dialogue with leaders of Russia and other countries in defending the stance that we are sharing with the SPC," the Russian patriarch said"

Done... now that "Kosovo is Serbia" is supported not just by the Serbian God but also by the Russian God we can rest assured that Kosovo is Serbia per divine order. I think this really puts this argument to rest and Serbs can now sleep in peace.

"Serbian government is a disgrace and should be removed asap. They will go down in history as the traitors they truly are. I hope that their families end up hanging heir heads in shame for not speaking up against them. Their descendents will having to feel proud of so hopefully these traitors will keep that in mind."
(Peggy, 17 July 2013 23:06)

Yeah, I think so too... unfortunately the majority of the Serbs don't share our opinion. We need to work hard, dear, to save Serbs from themselves :)

Hey Ian, did you happen to catch Jay Leno's bit on the royals last night?

Ian

Of course you struggle with understanding other posters cos your knowledge comes exclusively from the search engine.Your comments are so predictable.

Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:37)

Exact same kind of silly. All of you believe in your fairy tales and will start wars over them.

"So, when someone goes on the attack of my religion I will fire back at theirs, for they don't deserve anything better. "
(Peggy, 19 July 2013 00:54)

And you decide what is an 'attack' on your beloved religion'? You could shake hands with Ayatollah Khomenei and his fatwa against Salman Rushdie, who didn't deserve any better because he 'attacked' the holy Islam by writing a book, funny, eh?

Serbia is a secular country, so those funny holy figures should stay away from politics, just like politicians stay away from Church issues.

He is the Osama Bin-Laden from Serbia

Yeah, I think so too... unfortunately the majority of the Serbs don't share our opinion. We need to work hard, dear, to save Serbs from themselves :)
(icj1, 18 July 2013 05:19)


LOL. love the arrogance of the hobby-Serbs.

I struggled to identify any hate in Danilo's comment.
(Ian, UK, 18 July 2013 14:50)

You just need to define hate correctly (i.e. hate = different opinion) and you'll immediately understand where our dear friend Peggy is coming from and that she is correct :)

if you are not a member of a social group, and as long as that social group behaves within its own social superset's laws, then you do not have a right to interject your irrelevant opinions.

(cercee, 18 July 2013 17:57)


you are mistaken. Everyone has a right to comment. You may make a point that without the appropriate context, one's comments are irrelevant, but comment everyone may. besides. what are you going to do about it?

And "culture" is NOT untouchable in today's age. For example, mutilating the genitals of small girls is "behaving within its own social superset's laws" of some cultures.

What about mafia killings? Should the not be prosecuted (or even commented on) because that behaviour conforms to that particular subcultures internal norms?

ridiculous :) Thanks for my morning laugh.

And you decide what is an 'attack' on your beloved religion'? You could shake hands with Ayatollah Khomenei and his fatwa against Salman Rushdie, who didn't deserve any better because he 'attacked' the holy Islam by writing a book, funny, eh?
==========================
Are you seriously comparing arguing with someone and issuing a fatwa?
Have you become an Albanian overnight and started to overreact or do you occasionally flip out?

Jesus Christ, save us from these unholy people ....

Don't worry Serbian goverment God laughs at those so called pathetic "holy men". Even says Mat 23:15 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Priests, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. This is also what he says of the self pretencious holy man. Jhn 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. The religoustys wolves in disguise leading the the poor blind sheeps to their eternal doom.

He is the Osama Bin-Laden from Serbia

Yeah, I think so too... unfortunately the majority of the Serbs don't share our opinion. We need to work hard, dear, to save Serbs from themselves :)
(icj1, 18 July 2013 05:19)


LOL. love the arrogance of the hobby-Serbs.

"You don't even belong to our religion so why don't you just shut up. "


So, basically, what you're saying, Peggy, is that no one who is not a member of the Catholic church is allowed to comment on Catholic priests molesting kids?

The Catholic church should try that line in court. "you're asking for compensation for getting molested in a Catholic school? You're not even Catholic, so STFU" :)

Danilo, you are showing every day how hateful you are and that is now having an affect on your mind.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:34)

hear, hear Peggy, I think you were actually talking to yourself once more...

This government does not have the support of the church or the people regarding KiM. The ultimatum will eventually fail and this opportunity that could have brought lasting peace to the region will be a missed one. What a shame.

It just plants another seed leading to future conflict. Not surprising, NATO and the West are playing the leading role. They are plagued with one failure after another.

Jesus Christ, save us from these unholy people ....
(Willi Pfaff, 17 July 2013 16:07)
===========================
You don't even belong to our religion so why don't you just shut up.
Jesus Christ, save us from Willi Pfaff.
Why do you Albanians always have to meddle in someone else's affairs? Keep to your own and out of our way.

Serbian government is a disgrace and should be removed asap. They will go down in history as the traitors they truly are. I hope that their families end up hanging heir heads in shame for not speaking up against them. Their descendents will having to feel proud of so hopefully these traitors will keep that in mind.

Jesus Christ, save us from these unholy people ....
(Willi Pfaff, 17 July 2013 16:07)

Hey Jesus, how about coming on down to Kosova* and save folks from these here atheist commie Albo KLA human-trafficking organ-harvesting chicken and sheep molesting narco terrorists???

The Russian guy's head gear looks a lot like the WWI German helmets. Silly old men in silly clothes.

Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:37)


no, It's exactly the same kind of silly. Though, not so sure I'd include turbans. Those guys haven't ever cut their hair. You've gotta respect some dude getting up every morning and weaving his hair into that thing.


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What you Albanians are doing here disrespecting or questioning how we conduct our church is not on.
----------

I'm Albanian again? Yesterday I was a Croat. Don't you get tired of being so inconsistent? As for your point, everything is open to comment to everyone. You're little church isn't immune just because it happens to be special to you and it might upset you if someone said something that hurt your feelers. Besides, you comment rancorously all the time on things and in a manner that would offend people - that is intended to offend people - and I support you, Peggy :)

So, why am I "hateful" again? Because I said that no institution should be above criticism. This makes me "hateful"?

Molesting children is a criminal offense and everyone has a right to get involved.
What you Albanians are doing here disrespecting or questioning how we conduct our church is not on. We, the Serbian Orthodox are part of that church and have every right to have an opinion.
If the church clergy starts to molest children then you have the right to make it your business.
Until then try to restrain yourself from making an arse of yourself.
Danilo, you are showing every day how hateful you are and that is now having an affect on your mind.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:34)

So let me get this straight, you're only allowed to criticise a religion if the holy men of that religion start molesting children?

I struggled to identify any hate in Danilo's comment.

"Serbian government is a disgrace and should be removed asap. They will go down in history as the traitors they truly are. I hope that their families end up hanging heir heads in shame for not speaking up against them. Their descendents will having to feel proud of so hopefully these traitors will keep that in mind."
(Peggy, 17 July 2013 23:06)

Yeah, I think so too... unfortunately the majority of the Serbs don't share our opinion. We need to work hard, dear, to save Serbs from themselves :)

Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:37)

Exact same kind of silly. All of you believe in your fairy tales and will start wars over them.

Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.
(Peggy, 18 July 2013 13:37)

Haha Peggy, you're trying to counteract by mocking with the attire of another religion. That too is frigging hilarious, and don't forget about the pedophiles in the Vatican in funny hats. FYI, all of them without exception are B...S... But the ones I can't stomach is old farts like the ones above sticking their noses in human/political matters. They should focus on their fairy tale deities and leave people matters to people. Because if god truly loved orthodoxs as is in this case, Kosovo would be Serbian and not in the hands of "moon&star" heretics. There is no difference between them and allah humpers.

"So, when someone goes on the attack of my religion I will fire back at theirs, for they don't deserve anything better. "
(Peggy, 19 July 2013 00:54)

And you decide what is an 'attack' on your beloved religion'? You could shake hands with Ayatollah Khomenei and his fatwa against Salman Rushdie, who didn't deserve any better because he 'attacked' the holy Islam by writing a book, funny, eh?

Serbia is a secular country, so those funny holy figures should stay away from politics, just like politicians stay away from Church issues.

Willy, the NSA and western foreign intelligence agencies might be reading these posts, but I doubt Jesus is.

""We are offering our unreserved support to the SPC righteous position in terms of Kosovo-Metohija and we will remain in the dialogue with leaders of Russia and other countries in defending the stance that we are sharing with the SPC," the Russian patriarch said"

Done... now that "Kosovo is Serbia" is supported not just by the Serbian God but also by the Russian God we can rest assured that Kosovo is Serbia per divine order. I think this really puts this argument to rest and Serbs can now sleep in peace.

Peggy

It's well known from past articles relating to the Orthodox Church that Albanians and gays are very hateful towards it.

I struggled to identify any hate in Danilo's comment.
(Ian, UK, 18 July 2013 14:50)

You just need to define hate correctly (i.e. hate = different opinion) and you'll immediately understand where our dear friend Peggy is coming from and that she is correct :)

if you are not a member of a social group, and as long as that social group behaves within its own social superset's laws, then you do not have a right to interject your irrelevant opinions.

(cercee, 18 July 2013 17:57)


you are mistaken. Everyone has a right to comment. You may make a point that without the appropriate context, one's comments are irrelevant, but comment everyone may. besides. what are you going to do about it?

And "culture" is NOT untouchable in today's age. For example, mutilating the genitals of small girls is "behaving within its own social superset's laws" of some cultures.

What about mafia killings? Should the not be prosecuted (or even commented on) because that behaviour conforms to that particular subcultures internal norms?

ridiculous :) Thanks for my morning laugh.

Looks like we'll have to count on the KSerbs and the patriarchs to save Serbia from itself.

Kosovo could only stay Serbian through a new War !.

This Current Serbian Government,
can only focus on Preserving Vojvodina,
at the best.

Spremte se Spremte !.

Arn.Sweden.

God be with you,Patriarch Irine and Patriarch Kirill II.

There goes, Lenard, using Scripture to spread hate. He is an embarrassment to his Protestant brothers and to his Croatian Catholics brothers that he also condemns.

"So, basically, what you're saying, Peggy, is that no one who is not a member of the Catholic church is allowed to comment on Catholic priests molesting kids? "
(Danilo, 18 July 2013 10:31)

What about that: "Peggy, you are not even living in Serbia (for whatever reason, I won't speculate, probably you are an refugee emigrated under the economic depression caused by the glorious Milosevic and his politics), so why don't you simply shut up and care for the country where you are living?"

So, basically, what you're saying, Peggy, is that no one who is not a member of the Catholic church is allowed to comment on Catholic priests molesting kids?

The Catholic church should try that line in court. "you're asking for compensation for getting molested in a Catholic school? You're not even Catholic, so STFU" :)
(Danilo, 18 July 2013 10:31)
=============================

Molesting children is a criminal offense and everyone has a right to get involved.
What you Albanians are doing here disrespecting or questioning how we conduct our church is not on. We, the Serbian Orthodox are part of that church and have every right to have an opinion.
If the church clergy starts to molest children then you have the right to make it your business.
Until then try to restrain yourself from making an arse of yourself.
Danilo, you are showing every day how hateful you are and that is now having an affect on your mind.

Ian

Of course you struggle with understanding other posters cos your knowledge comes exclusively from the search engine.Your comments are so predictable.

The Russian guy's head gear looks a lot like the WWI German helmets. Silly old men in silly clothes.
(Mikel B., 18 July 2013 03:39
========================
Not as silly as men in fezzes and turbans and women in tents.

wow, what indignant entitlement comaing from some of the grand and glorious politicios danilo and mr international court herself.
if you are not a member of a social group, and as long as that social group behaves within its own social superset's laws, then you do not have a right to interject your irrelevant opinions.
an englishman has no right to tell a kenyan how to live his life. a catholic has no right to tell a hindu how to pray or run their sub-society. if you don't vote, shut up about the government. if you don't belong to a specific church, shut up about what that church's internal practices are, and what its opinions are. its a standard pay-to-play model.
the problem is, is that too many people are of the opinion that thier national interferences are for the best, but they truely don't have a right to interfer, and subsequerntly tend to invent pretence for interference, and now the weak children of these morally flawed societies are set up to feel entitled to tell everyone that they must act and think, not as they wish, or their own society wishes, but rather how the they are being told how to think because it is always the "right" way...

Hey Ian, did you happen to catch Jay Leno's bit on the royals last night?

Exact same kind of silly. All of you believe in your fairy tales and will start wars over them.
(ItalianoAmericano, 18 July 2013 21:24)
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So what do you believe in? The mighty dollar? What exactly?
It is not important if I or anyone else believes or doesn't believe in scripture. What is important is that there should be no attacks and mocking of people representing it. So, when someone goes on the attack of my religion I will fire back at theirs, for they don't deserve anything better.
I did not attack his religion or how people choose to represent it here, but if this moron thinks he can attack mine and not get a response equalling his then he is mistaken.

Live and let live but this is not the way Albanians choose to live.

The Serbian government only cares about eu membership and has decided to totally recognize Kosovo as an independent nation and plans on abolishing all serbias politcal parties in Kosovo and have one Kosovo Serb political party and register it with pristina for the pristina elections!! The majority of Serbs always vote for this! Serbs also support Kosovo independence for eu membership because the leaders have not been removed or even demonstrated against!

And you decide what is an 'attack' on your beloved religion'? You could shake hands with Ayatollah Khomenei and his fatwa against Salman Rushdie, who didn't deserve any better because he 'attacked' the holy Islam by writing a book, funny, eh?
==========================
Are you seriously comparing arguing with someone and issuing a fatwa?
Have you become an Albanian overnight and started to overreact or do you occasionally flip out?