Greek President Papoulias starts visit to Serbia

Grecce will never recognize Kosovo, greetings from Athens! #OrthodoxBrothers

So greeks have still money to buy airplane tickets? Nice.

To me this sounds like Greece will reveal to Serbia that it will finally recognize Kosova's independence. October would be great!

Grecce will never recognize Kosovo, greetings from Athens! #OrthodoxBrothers
(Marley, 18 June 2013 11:39)

Thank you Marley! And it is good that there are more contries with the same opinion.

"To me this sounds like Greece will reveal to Serbia that it will finally recognize Kosova's independence. October would be great!"
(adrian kola, 18 June 2013 10:54)

Some people like to live in illusions and take wishful thinking as reality. Not a single world about 'Kosova' was mentioned in the article. Hmm, not even Dacic thanking him for 'greece's principled stance not to recognized the unilaterally self-proclaimed state of Kosovo'. Or is this missing sentence already enough for you?

Positive let's strengthen our Serbian-Greek Relationship One day the Balkans will be Orthodox again ;)

To me this sounds like Greece will reveal to Serbia that it will finally recognize Kosova's independence. October would be great!
(adrian kola, 18 June 2013 10:54)

Do you know what earbuds/Qtips are?

Marley

Considering that Greece didn't object to the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 (when ALL NATO members had to agree to it) I wouldn't be so sure of that. de fact, Greece already recognizes Kosova, it accepts its passports as valid, its diplomas as valid and it did not oppose Kosova's membership in institutions like the EBRD. am implicit recognition will come within 5 years, the OrthodoxBrothers bit is a metaphor that you seem to have consumed

I just read the article. There's not a single word about Kosovo's recognition and believe me, Kosovo is the least of Greece's concerns right now.

(Nikolle, 19 June 2013 11:11)

I am sure you can travel to Slovakia or Romania,does this imply recognition of Kosovo? Any student from Taiwan can attend Western universities,does this imply recognition of Taiwan?Your analogy with Russia is pretty desperate because Russia is nor a member of the EU and not binding by any EU decisions.

Positive let's strengthen our Serbian-Greek Relationship One day the Balkans will be Orthodox again ;)
(mick, 18 June 2013 13:18)

Yeah, stick to Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings II.

"Thank you Marley! And it is good that there are more contries with the same opinion.
(Viktor, "


How do you feel about the neighbours and majority of countries that hold Serbs refugees, not recognising Serbia as you recognise it?

How about the fact that you cant get to Greece without driving to a place that does not recognise Serbia, but it does Kosovo?

"Considering that Greece didn't object to the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 (when ALL NATO members had to agree to it)"

Nikolle

Really?

"...and during the NATO bombing of FR Yugoslavia, Greece was the only NATO member to condemn the actions and openly expressed its disapproval. polls revealed that 94% of the Greek population were completely opposed to the bombing"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek–Serbian_relations

"Disputes between Germany, France and the US over the 2003 invasion of Iraq caused one of the worst crises in Nato history"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/1549072.stm#overview

You call that unanimous decision?

(Nikolle, 18 June 2013 12:59)

Your usual twists and turns to fit with the Albanian mindset.Greece certainly took a lot of diplomatic heat for their support of the Serbs in the 1990s but couldn't possibly stop warmongers Clinton and Blair in their decision to attack Serbia.The recognition of travel documents was part of the 2008 EU directive of "open borders in the Balkans" policy and does not imply any impeding recognition of your pseudo-state by Greece.As a matter of fact you stand more chance to be recognised by Nicolic than Greece or Cyprus.

Oh, now countries that recognize Kosovo don't recognize Serbia, in your eyes? Why is it always Albanians who have some strange interpretations on certain things of the reality?
(Questioner, 18 June 2013 20:57)

I largely blame it on decades of Hoxha-sponsored indoctrination. Seriously, you'd be amazed at the stories concocted out of something that has nothing to do with them :)

(Nikolle, 19 June 2013 13:24)

You're getting desperate Nikolle.If you bothered to go back to 2008 when the EU travel directive was issued you've would've seen the official reason given was "humanitarian" and didn't imply anything else.

Taiwan has also got a "representative office" in Greece which deals with passport and visa issuance, assistance for citizens in distress, trade, cultural and economic relations, etc.Does this mean that Taiwan is recognised by Greece? Definitely not.

But as Thanasis said in his posting below Kosovo does not feature at all in Greece's list of priorities.

"How do you feel about the neighbours and majority of countries that hold Serbs refugees, not recognising Serbia as you recognise it? "
(koko, 18 June 2013 15:30)

Oh, now countries that recognize Kosovo don't recognize Serbia, in your eyes? Why is it always Albanians who have some strange interpretations on certain things of the reality?

Not twisting anything Leonidas, only applying simple logic. In 1999, before the attack commenced, all NATO members had to agree to it, Greece postured and then OK'd the bombing. it really isn't my problem. that it stings at you is something for you to deal with.
again, ALL EU members have to agree to the EU plan on travel, but this goes more than that, we're not only talking about travel documents, there's nothing to stop me from enrolling in a Greek University with my Kosovar passport and Prishtina University diploma. on the other hand, in Russia I can't, this is what I mean by covert and explicit recognition. that Greece is all talk and no action is not my problem

"I am sure you can travel to Slovakia or Romania,does this imply recognition of Kosovo? "

it implies implicit recognition yes. what does Greece not recognize? the state of Kosova. yet, who issues those Kosovar documents? you don't need to be a code breaker to see it

Condemn the bombing MikeC? You know, before NATO attacks, they have to call every member contra to get the green light. Guess what Greece said :-), the sure didn't condemn the bombing

Leonidas

You're getting desperate Nikolle!

I some individual Greeks are desperate trying to be Serbia’s friends in this chat room.

Greece recognising Kosovo? It does not matter strategically since Greece and Cyprus is the bum and the tail of the EU. As a KS Albanian I really do not care (In fact no one in EU does) about Greece’s thinking or recognition of KS.

But Greece has done the right thing so far. You gave the green light to NATO, you accept our passports and you agree KS joining international organisations. You are fine! Thanks.

Leonidas,
Ignoring a problem does not make it go away. The reality on the ground will ultimately prevail. Greek government has always been opportunistic ( for better or worse). From TAP to trade and respective minorities, both Albanian and Greeks have to deal with each other. Ultimately the Greek self intersest will prevail, Kosovo will be recognized.

To me this sounds like Greece will reveal to Serbia that it will finally recognize Kosova's independence. October would be great!

Marley

Considering that Greece didn't object to the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 (when ALL NATO members had to agree to it) I wouldn't be so sure of that. de fact, Greece already recognizes Kosova, it accepts its passports as valid, its diplomas as valid and it did not oppose Kosova's membership in institutions like the EBRD. am implicit recognition will come within 5 years, the OrthodoxBrothers bit is a metaphor that you seem to have consumed

Grecce will never recognize Kosovo, greetings from Athens! #OrthodoxBrothers

Condemn the bombing MikeC? You know, before NATO attacks, they have to call every member contra to get the green light. Guess what Greece said :-), the sure didn't condemn the bombing

"I am sure you can travel to Slovakia or Romania,does this imply recognition of Kosovo? "

it implies implicit recognition yes. what does Greece not recognize? the state of Kosova. yet, who issues those Kosovar documents? you don't need to be a code breaker to see it

So greeks have still money to buy airplane tickets? Nice.

Grecce will never recognize Kosovo, greetings from Athens! #OrthodoxBrothers
(Marley, 18 June 2013 11:39)

Thank you Marley! And it is good that there are more contries with the same opinion.

Positive let's strengthen our Serbian-Greek Relationship One day the Balkans will be Orthodox again ;)

"Thank you Marley! And it is good that there are more contries with the same opinion.
(Viktor, "


How do you feel about the neighbours and majority of countries that hold Serbs refugees, not recognising Serbia as you recognise it?

How about the fact that you cant get to Greece without driving to a place that does not recognise Serbia, but it does Kosovo?

Not twisting anything Leonidas, only applying simple logic. In 1999, before the attack commenced, all NATO members had to agree to it, Greece postured and then OK'd the bombing. it really isn't my problem. that it stings at you is something for you to deal with.
again, ALL EU members have to agree to the EU plan on travel, but this goes more than that, we're not only talking about travel documents, there's nothing to stop me from enrolling in a Greek University with my Kosovar passport and Prishtina University diploma. on the other hand, in Russia I can't, this is what I mean by covert and explicit recognition. that Greece is all talk and no action is not my problem

"To me this sounds like Greece will reveal to Serbia that it will finally recognize Kosova's independence. October would be great!"
(adrian kola, 18 June 2013 10:54)

Some people like to live in illusions and take wishful thinking as reality. Not a single world about 'Kosova' was mentioned in the article. Hmm, not even Dacic thanking him for 'greece's principled stance not to recognized the unilaterally self-proclaimed state of Kosovo'. Or is this missing sentence already enough for you?

To me this sounds like Greece will reveal to Serbia that it will finally recognize Kosova's independence. October would be great!
(adrian kola, 18 June 2013 10:54)

Do you know what earbuds/Qtips are?

"How do you feel about the neighbours and majority of countries that hold Serbs refugees, not recognising Serbia as you recognise it? "
(koko, 18 June 2013 15:30)

Oh, now countries that recognize Kosovo don't recognize Serbia, in your eyes? Why is it always Albanians who have some strange interpretations on certain things of the reality?

Positive let's strengthen our Serbian-Greek Relationship One day the Balkans will be Orthodox again ;)
(mick, 18 June 2013 13:18)

Yeah, stick to Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings II.

"Considering that Greece didn't object to the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 (when ALL NATO members had to agree to it)"

Nikolle

Really?

"...and during the NATO bombing of FR Yugoslavia, Greece was the only NATO member to condemn the actions and openly expressed its disapproval. polls revealed that 94% of the Greek population were completely opposed to the bombing"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek–Serbian_relations

"Disputes between Germany, France and the US over the 2003 invasion of Iraq caused one of the worst crises in Nato history"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/1549072.stm#overview

You call that unanimous decision?

(Nikolle, 18 June 2013 12:59)

Your usual twists and turns to fit with the Albanian mindset.Greece certainly took a lot of diplomatic heat for their support of the Serbs in the 1990s but couldn't possibly stop warmongers Clinton and Blair in their decision to attack Serbia.The recognition of travel documents was part of the 2008 EU directive of "open borders in the Balkans" policy and does not imply any impeding recognition of your pseudo-state by Greece.As a matter of fact you stand more chance to be recognised by Nicolic than Greece or Cyprus.

(Nikolle, 19 June 2013 11:11)

I am sure you can travel to Slovakia or Romania,does this imply recognition of Kosovo? Any student from Taiwan can attend Western universities,does this imply recognition of Taiwan?Your analogy with Russia is pretty desperate because Russia is nor a member of the EU and not binding by any EU decisions.

(Nikolle, 19 June 2013 13:24)

You're getting desperate Nikolle.If you bothered to go back to 2008 when the EU travel directive was issued you've would've seen the official reason given was "humanitarian" and didn't imply anything else.

Taiwan has also got a "representative office" in Greece which deals with passport and visa issuance, assistance for citizens in distress, trade, cultural and economic relations, etc.Does this mean that Taiwan is recognised by Greece? Definitely not.

But as Thanasis said in his posting below Kosovo does not feature at all in Greece's list of priorities.

Leonidas

You're getting desperate Nikolle!

I some individual Greeks are desperate trying to be Serbia’s friends in this chat room.

Greece recognising Kosovo? It does not matter strategically since Greece and Cyprus is the bum and the tail of the EU. As a KS Albanian I really do not care (In fact no one in EU does) about Greece’s thinking or recognition of KS.

But Greece has done the right thing so far. You gave the green light to NATO, you accept our passports and you agree KS joining international organisations. You are fine! Thanks.

I just read the article. There's not a single word about Kosovo's recognition and believe me, Kosovo is the least of Greece's concerns right now.

Oh, now countries that recognize Kosovo don't recognize Serbia, in your eyes? Why is it always Albanians who have some strange interpretations on certain things of the reality?
(Questioner, 18 June 2013 20:57)

I largely blame it on decades of Hoxha-sponsored indoctrination. Seriously, you'd be amazed at the stories concocted out of something that has nothing to do with them :)

Leonidas,
Ignoring a problem does not make it go away. The reality on the ground will ultimately prevail. Greek government has always been opportunistic ( for better or worse). From TAP to trade and respective minorities, both Albanian and Greeks have to deal with each other. Ultimately the Greek self intersest will prevail, Kosovo will be recognized.