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U.S. says it has evidence of use of chemical weapons

U.S. President Barack Obama has decided to send direct military assistance to the rebels in Syria, according to the White House, as reported by Reuters.

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a New Day

pre 10 godina

Someone, somehow must stop them.
(Peggy, 14 June 2013 13:40)
Exactly the words the world was using in 1998 and 1999 about Serbia until the US led NATO in a response. One has to wonder how much blood would have been spilled without that intervention.

Reader

pre 10 godina

Boobie

Ian's writen abilities in english are below average and therefore I wouldn't call Ian as a product of the british educational system.
(Gotsefromohrid, 15 June 2013 10:28)

writen -> written
writen abilities -> writing abilities
call Ian as a product -> call Ian a product

Leonidas

pre 10 godina

Ian

It was Dictator Assad who started the war by sending in the Army to crack down on the protesters.

He didn't. He just responded to an externally sponsored insurgency carried out by sectarian jihadis and supported by the US, Nato and the Gulf Monarchies.The armed plan was in place years before the kick-off, as was the nursery rhyme narrative that you have just repeated.

Assad is Mr Democracy?

He's been elected unlike your hereditary head state with its associate parasites milking the state £ millions/year through the civil list and tax avoidance.Your kind of democracy is also reflected through the unelected lords who visit the house either to sleep and only ask questions when they get paid handsomely.I nearly forgot, then you've got DC who's been elected with 33% of the 58% of voters who voted in the last election.That's democracy.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

God bless the USA, democracy together with her allies, and may freedom be established thruout planet earth!
(Rocky, 14 June 2013 14:25

I say to h... with the USA and wouldnt cry a tear if it was wiped out from the face of earth. The so called "democracy fighters"are nothing but ruthless terrorists that would do anything it takes to protect (and increase)their own interests. Do you really think they care about the people of Syria and Iraq?All they care is about the dollar sign and the black gold, look at how Iraq was before they put their nose in and look at it now, they have totally ruined what was once the most prosperous country in the whole region, just because of their own greed. When you say that the us want democracy bear in mind the picture where the us soldiers put dog collars on Iraqi war prisoners and urinate on them, I bet you approve of that to, after all all they want is peace and democracy right?

Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember Nicaragua and Bolivia, remember Vietnam, remember the millions of people that the US murdered throgh the years in order to fill their pockets. May god have mercy on the souls of this ruthless killingmachines victims. One sunny and happy day the us citizens will pay for all that. I prefer sooner rather than later.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Ian you fail to recognize that the regime is highly secular and those "freedom fighters"as you wish to call them are nothing but extreme jihadists funded by the US and Saudiarabia. Do you really think another scenario like the one in Egypt where the same kind of islamist militia took down a western-oriented regime and replaced it with the muslim brotherhood?Is that your way of a multiethnic country?

Niko

pre 10 godina

Ian,

I am British born and bred. You obviously have little knowledge of ME culture, religious affiliations or politics other than what you garner from the western media and wikipedia.

I have now lived in ME for close on 10 years and have intigrated very well with all religions and cultures. The civil war in Syria is bigger than you can imagine with so many outside players its like a who's who of the UN.

Latest reports put the number of (foreign) backed Sunni extremists at 20,000 and (Foreign) backed Shia extremists at 6,000.

The majority of the muslims I know are all moderate and have no support for either side as they know the west has caused so much pain and suffering in this part of the world for decades.

As usual these posts and your trolling of B92 (eng) for the last 5 years are far off the mark in terms of knowledge. You really need to get out of the Valleys for a wee while.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

Boobie

Ian's writen abilities in english are below average and therefore I wouldn't call Ian as a product of the british educational system.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

It wasn't the Russians and iranians who started the war in Syria now was it? It was a soudiarabian backed sunni militia. I hope America fails in Syria as they have failed all over the world. Assad is mr Democracy himself compared to the Jihadists on the sunni side. Besides, it funny how muslims are destroying their countries and their people just because they can't share power. That says a lot about your backward religion.
(MikeC, 14 June 2013 23:08)

Correct, it wasn't the Russians or Iranians who started the War. It was Dictator Assad who started the war by sending in the Army to crack down on the protesters. The murder of these innocent civilians caused the war.

How can America fail in Syria when all they are doing is observing?

Assad is Mr Democracy? HAHAHAHA! He is Mr Sham election cheat/ Mr State of Emergency to Stay in Power/ Mr Kill Innocent Civilians who oppose him to stay in power/ Mr hire terrorists to fight for him so he can stay in power.

"your region" haha! As we say in Welsh: Rydych yn basdad dwp!

I'm an Atheist. I have no religion. I hate all religion.

You're the one supporting the regime backed by die hard Islamic Jihadist Extremist Terrorists. I'm supporting the regime which is multi-ethnic (Arab, Kurd, Turkmen and Armenian) and multi religious (Muslim and Christian), which until recently had an Orthodox Christian leader.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"Why should someone stop the US, but not Russia and Iran? Is this because you support hardcore Islamist extremist terrorists in Syria?"
=============================
Did you really just ask that question seriously?
It is the US who has always supported the Islamists not Russia. When those Islamists turn on the US then they are forced to fight them.
Just ask yourself if the Christians of those countries are better off now than they were when "Jihadists" ruled.

You are so deluded that you believe your own crap.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

Ian, UK

It wasn't the Russians and iranians who started the war in Syria now was it? It was a soudiarabian backed sunni militia. I hope America fails in Syria as they have failed all over the world. Assad is mr Democracy himself compared to the Jihadists on the sunni side. Besides, it funny how muslims are destroying their countries and their people just because they can't share power. That says a lot about your backward religion.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Gotsefromohrid, 14 June 2013 16:15)

I don't support Al Qaeda. Do they even exist? There were supposedly disbanded/ retired by the CIA in 1997. What is known as Al Qaeda today, is the name Western media and governments gave to hardcore organised Sunni Muslim Terrorists after the 11th September 2001.

I support the Free Syrian Army (50,000 in strength and used to have an Orthodox Christian leader), the Syrian Liberation Front (35-40,000 in Strength) and the Popular Protection Units aka Syrian Kurds (around 10,000 in strength). But if you were to believe Russian/ Iranian/ Assad's state media, all of these who are opposed to Assad would be considered 'Al Qaeda'. However 'Al Qaeda' in Syria are only believed to be between 2,000 to 6,000 in strength according to different sources. They are engaged in the Syrian Civil War for two reasons. 1) They thrive where there is chaos, which in Syria has been caused by Dictator Assad's refusal to listen to the Syrian people and step down. 2) Al Qaeda are Sunni Muslims and they are opposed to the Shi'ite Muslim terrorists in Syria who were imported/ hired by Assad, Russia and Iran.

Assad, Russia and Iran are to blame for Al Qaeda's presence in Syria.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

hey rocky, a recent nato sponsored poll of syrian citizens, not combatants in syria, has 70% support for assad. of that 70%, 80% are sunni. they say that assad is the lesser of two evils, better the devil you know than the one you don't.
again, this is a nato conducted poll. if nato is to be considered a trustworthy organization in the slightest, these polls certainly are to be trusted too.
however, you might have to do some digging to find it, because nato-based media aren't the ones running this story as it goes completely against their narrative.
(jimbo, 14 June 2013 16:59)

Hey Jimbo, if you want us to believe you, then state your source if, in fact, one exists. Or, perhaps you just want us to go on a wild goose chase. I'm quite confident you are fibbing since I'm sure no such NATO sponsored survey exists. Nice try though.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

I think it is well known to all posters here who supports the al qaeda rebels in syria and is none othsr than you.I psrssonally do not blame you cos living in bradfordistan uk with 150000 muslims and attending local mosque for prayers is a natural thing to do.However your islamist friends in syria are history.

jimbo

pre 10 godina

hey rocky, a recent nato sponsored poll of syrian citizens, not combatants in syria, has 70% support for assad. of that 70%, 80% are sunni. they say that assad is the lesser of two evils, better the devil you know than the one you don't.
again, this is a nato conducted poll. if nato is to be considered a trustworthy organization in the slightest, these polls certainly are to be trusted too.
however, you might have to do some digging to find it, because nato-based media aren't the ones running this story as it goes completely against their narrative.

boobie

pre 10 godina

nenad,
though its clear that one shouldn't trust assad, as he hasn't earned it as you say, the us has lost what ever they once had

ian,
the allies (us et al) have blood on their hands too. as much as russia/iran. 2 kg of sarin was confiscated by turkish border guards. the offenders were known agents/insurgents/freedom-fighters/western-sponsored-friends/terrorists (depending on how you look at it). where oh where did they get the sarin? the un, homed in nyc, managed by usa/uk/france (3/5 of the psc), have expressed concerns over the chemical weapons used by the non-assad-fighters.
you cry foul that assad has been given weapons to fight what he considers terorists, 'iran and russia bad' (sounds like hulk hogan circa 1984), but is there hard proof besides intelligence reports? is there any trail of evidence as to how the insurgency came into weapons? did they fashion them out of sand and sticks? or perhaps can it tracked to some other country, saudia arabia perhaps?
if you weren't so clearly biased it would be easier to take you seriously. both you as assad, graduates of the british education system.

robert1899

pre 10 godina

Nenad,

Why did the U.S. provide weapons to Saddam Hussein back in the early 1980's even though there was hard evidence (pic's of the dead) Saddam used chemical weapons to kill Kurds in Northern Iraq. Was that not as reprehensible an act as these alligations? When a government's policies are based on a blatant double standard it losses credibility.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

How long does US want to have blood on their hands?
How many must die for these monsters to be satisfied?
Where does it all end?
Someone, somehow must stop them.
(Peggy, 14 June 2013 13:40)

One thing is for sure, the US won't have as much blood on their hands as Russia and Iran do from Syria

You say someone must stop the US, but what about Russia and Iran?
They're openly arming and financing hardcore radical foreign Islamist Jihadist extremist terrorists in Syria such as Hezbollah, the Basij, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Kata'ib, PFLP-GC, Jaysh al-Sha'bi, Shabiha, Lijan militias, al-Abbas brigade, Houthis and many other Iraqi and Iranian insurgent groups.

Why should someone stop the US, but not Russia and Iran? Is this because you support hardcore Islamist extremist terrorists in Syria?

Just short of 100,000 innocent civilians have died due to Russia's and Iran's blood thirsty terrorist backed puppet in Syria. Vladmir Putin doesn't care about these civilian losses, all he cares about is making money and the Syrian Civil War has proved to be very profitable for Russia's economy.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Time for Assad to step down.. Just like S. Milosevich, S. Hussein, & Gaddafi! All dictators be on watch!!! God bless the USA, democracy together with her allies, and may freedom be established thruout planet earth!

Nenad

pre 10 godina

No one doubts the US has evidence. However there is a monumental difference between evidence & FABRICATED evidence. You always deliver the later. History shows that.
(One for truth, and only the truth, 14 June 2013 12:41)

I agree that the US has a deeply tarnished reputation when it comes to claiming to have evidence that justifies military intervention - the Iraq WMD case provides a clear example. But I must say, it's a wee bit irresponsible to presume that the US is always the one lying, or always the bad guy. How can you be so certain that Assad hasn't used sarin gas? What has he done over the years to win your trust on this matter? Do you even live in Syria? Do you know anything about its political history?

Robert1899

pre 10 godina

Just like the U.S. had evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 100k dead kosovo albanians. It is all a pretext for military intervention by the U.S. government.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

How long does US want to have blood on their hands?
How many must die for these monsters to be satisfied?
Where does it all end?
Someone, somehow must stop them.

One for truth, and only the truth

pre 10 godina

No one doubts the US has evidence. However there is a monumental difference between evidence & FABRICATED evidence. You always deliver the later. History shows that.

Leonidas

pre 10 godina

The Western media, the neo-con pundits, and the Obama Administration incessantly parrot the narrative which is strikingly similar to what we heard in the build-up to Gulf War II, they point inevitably to President Bashar al-Assad’s might just be crazy enough to use chemical and/or biological agents – an accusation Assad himself has repeatedly denied.He is also responsible for the whole mess, the typical mindset of the aggressor; just as Saddam was responsible for the 500,000 Iraqi children Western sanctions on that country caused.

Practically every story from Syria is a story about the 'free Syrians'; usually about a 'massacre' of 'civilians', which generally turn out to be males of fighting age.What actually happens is when some gang of terrorists funded by Washington (the same kind of gang that bin Laden used to run in Afghanistan) is killed by the Syrian army, Washington sends out what amounts to a 'martyrdom' press release.

How did the US get the "new evidence" on the use of sarin gas used by Assad forces?Probably by hacking into Assad's twitter or Facebook account.Joking apart the US and its allies have used all their political capital at home and abroad to be taken seriously.Memories of the WNDS fiasco in Iraq,the British forged documents of Iraqi uranium imports from Niger and Blair's famous 45 minutes are still with us.Who has recently used depleted uranium bombs in Iraq & Libya ? White phosphorous in Serbia?The deformed new born give the answer.

One for truth, and only the truth

pre 10 godina

No one doubts the US has evidence. However there is a monumental difference between evidence & FABRICATED evidence. You always deliver the later. History shows that.

Leonidas

pre 10 godina

The Western media, the neo-con pundits, and the Obama Administration incessantly parrot the narrative which is strikingly similar to what we heard in the build-up to Gulf War II, they point inevitably to President Bashar al-Assad’s might just be crazy enough to use chemical and/or biological agents – an accusation Assad himself has repeatedly denied.He is also responsible for the whole mess, the typical mindset of the aggressor; just as Saddam was responsible for the 500,000 Iraqi children Western sanctions on that country caused.

Practically every story from Syria is a story about the 'free Syrians'; usually about a 'massacre' of 'civilians', which generally turn out to be males of fighting age.What actually happens is when some gang of terrorists funded by Washington (the same kind of gang that bin Laden used to run in Afghanistan) is killed by the Syrian army, Washington sends out what amounts to a 'martyrdom' press release.

How did the US get the "new evidence" on the use of sarin gas used by Assad forces?Probably by hacking into Assad's twitter or Facebook account.Joking apart the US and its allies have used all their political capital at home and abroad to be taken seriously.Memories of the WNDS fiasco in Iraq,the British forged documents of Iraqi uranium imports from Niger and Blair's famous 45 minutes are still with us.Who has recently used depleted uranium bombs in Iraq & Libya ? White phosphorous in Serbia?The deformed new born give the answer.

Robert1899

pre 10 godina

Just like the U.S. had evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 100k dead kosovo albanians. It is all a pretext for military intervention by the U.S. government.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

How long does US want to have blood on their hands?
How many must die for these monsters to be satisfied?
Where does it all end?
Someone, somehow must stop them.

robert1899

pre 10 godina

Nenad,

Why did the U.S. provide weapons to Saddam Hussein back in the early 1980's even though there was hard evidence (pic's of the dead) Saddam used chemical weapons to kill Kurds in Northern Iraq. Was that not as reprehensible an act as these alligations? When a government's policies are based on a blatant double standard it losses credibility.

boobie

pre 10 godina

nenad,
though its clear that one shouldn't trust assad, as he hasn't earned it as you say, the us has lost what ever they once had

ian,
the allies (us et al) have blood on their hands too. as much as russia/iran. 2 kg of sarin was confiscated by turkish border guards. the offenders were known agents/insurgents/freedom-fighters/western-sponsored-friends/terrorists (depending on how you look at it). where oh where did they get the sarin? the un, homed in nyc, managed by usa/uk/france (3/5 of the psc), have expressed concerns over the chemical weapons used by the non-assad-fighters.
you cry foul that assad has been given weapons to fight what he considers terorists, 'iran and russia bad' (sounds like hulk hogan circa 1984), but is there hard proof besides intelligence reports? is there any trail of evidence as to how the insurgency came into weapons? did they fashion them out of sand and sticks? or perhaps can it tracked to some other country, saudia arabia perhaps?
if you weren't so clearly biased it would be easier to take you seriously. both you as assad, graduates of the british education system.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

I think it is well known to all posters here who supports the al qaeda rebels in syria and is none othsr than you.I psrssonally do not blame you cos living in bradfordistan uk with 150000 muslims and attending local mosque for prayers is a natural thing to do.However your islamist friends in syria are history.

jimbo

pre 10 godina

hey rocky, a recent nato sponsored poll of syrian citizens, not combatants in syria, has 70% support for assad. of that 70%, 80% are sunni. they say that assad is the lesser of two evils, better the devil you know than the one you don't.
again, this is a nato conducted poll. if nato is to be considered a trustworthy organization in the slightest, these polls certainly are to be trusted too.
however, you might have to do some digging to find it, because nato-based media aren't the ones running this story as it goes completely against their narrative.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

Ian, UK

It wasn't the Russians and iranians who started the war in Syria now was it? It was a soudiarabian backed sunni militia. I hope America fails in Syria as they have failed all over the world. Assad is mr Democracy himself compared to the Jihadists on the sunni side. Besides, it funny how muslims are destroying their countries and their people just because they can't share power. That says a lot about your backward religion.

Niko

pre 10 godina

Ian,

I am British born and bred. You obviously have little knowledge of ME culture, religious affiliations or politics other than what you garner from the western media and wikipedia.

I have now lived in ME for close on 10 years and have intigrated very well with all religions and cultures. The civil war in Syria is bigger than you can imagine with so many outside players its like a who's who of the UN.

Latest reports put the number of (foreign) backed Sunni extremists at 20,000 and (Foreign) backed Shia extremists at 6,000.

The majority of the muslims I know are all moderate and have no support for either side as they know the west has caused so much pain and suffering in this part of the world for decades.

As usual these posts and your trolling of B92 (eng) for the last 5 years are far off the mark in terms of knowledge. You really need to get out of the Valleys for a wee while.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

Boobie

Ian's writen abilities in english are below average and therefore I wouldn't call Ian as a product of the british educational system.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"Why should someone stop the US, but not Russia and Iran? Is this because you support hardcore Islamist extremist terrorists in Syria?"
=============================
Did you really just ask that question seriously?
It is the US who has always supported the Islamists not Russia. When those Islamists turn on the US then they are forced to fight them.
Just ask yourself if the Christians of those countries are better off now than they were when "Jihadists" ruled.

You are so deluded that you believe your own crap.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Time for Assad to step down.. Just like S. Milosevich, S. Hussein, & Gaddafi! All dictators be on watch!!! God bless the USA, democracy together with her allies, and may freedom be established thruout planet earth!

Nenad

pre 10 godina

No one doubts the US has evidence. However there is a monumental difference between evidence & FABRICATED evidence. You always deliver the later. History shows that.
(One for truth, and only the truth, 14 June 2013 12:41)

I agree that the US has a deeply tarnished reputation when it comes to claiming to have evidence that justifies military intervention - the Iraq WMD case provides a clear example. But I must say, it's a wee bit irresponsible to presume that the US is always the one lying, or always the bad guy. How can you be so certain that Assad hasn't used sarin gas? What has he done over the years to win your trust on this matter? Do you even live in Syria? Do you know anything about its political history?

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

How long does US want to have blood on their hands?
How many must die for these monsters to be satisfied?
Where does it all end?
Someone, somehow must stop them.
(Peggy, 14 June 2013 13:40)

One thing is for sure, the US won't have as much blood on their hands as Russia and Iran do from Syria

You say someone must stop the US, but what about Russia and Iran?
They're openly arming and financing hardcore radical foreign Islamist Jihadist extremist terrorists in Syria such as Hezbollah, the Basij, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Kata'ib, PFLP-GC, Jaysh al-Sha'bi, Shabiha, Lijan militias, al-Abbas brigade, Houthis and many other Iraqi and Iranian insurgent groups.

Why should someone stop the US, but not Russia and Iran? Is this because you support hardcore Islamist extremist terrorists in Syria?

Just short of 100,000 innocent civilians have died due to Russia's and Iran's blood thirsty terrorist backed puppet in Syria. Vladmir Putin doesn't care about these civilian losses, all he cares about is making money and the Syrian Civil War has proved to be very profitable for Russia's economy.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Ian you fail to recognize that the regime is highly secular and those "freedom fighters"as you wish to call them are nothing but extreme jihadists funded by the US and Saudiarabia. Do you really think another scenario like the one in Egypt where the same kind of islamist militia took down a western-oriented regime and replaced it with the muslim brotherhood?Is that your way of a multiethnic country?

Daniel

pre 10 godina

God bless the USA, democracy together with her allies, and may freedom be established thruout planet earth!
(Rocky, 14 June 2013 14:25

I say to h... with the USA and wouldnt cry a tear if it was wiped out from the face of earth. The so called "democracy fighters"are nothing but ruthless terrorists that would do anything it takes to protect (and increase)their own interests. Do you really think they care about the people of Syria and Iraq?All they care is about the dollar sign and the black gold, look at how Iraq was before they put their nose in and look at it now, they have totally ruined what was once the most prosperous country in the whole region, just because of their own greed. When you say that the us want democracy bear in mind the picture where the us soldiers put dog collars on Iraqi war prisoners and urinate on them, I bet you approve of that to, after all all they want is peace and democracy right?

Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember Nicaragua and Bolivia, remember Vietnam, remember the millions of people that the US murdered throgh the years in order to fill their pockets. May god have mercy on the souls of this ruthless killingmachines victims. One sunny and happy day the us citizens will pay for all that. I prefer sooner rather than later.

Leonidas

pre 10 godina

Ian

It was Dictator Assad who started the war by sending in the Army to crack down on the protesters.

He didn't. He just responded to an externally sponsored insurgency carried out by sectarian jihadis and supported by the US, Nato and the Gulf Monarchies.The armed plan was in place years before the kick-off, as was the nursery rhyme narrative that you have just repeated.

Assad is Mr Democracy?

He's been elected unlike your hereditary head state with its associate parasites milking the state £ millions/year through the civil list and tax avoidance.Your kind of democracy is also reflected through the unelected lords who visit the house either to sleep and only ask questions when they get paid handsomely.I nearly forgot, then you've got DC who's been elected with 33% of the 58% of voters who voted in the last election.That's democracy.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Gotsefromohrid, 14 June 2013 16:15)

I don't support Al Qaeda. Do they even exist? There were supposedly disbanded/ retired by the CIA in 1997. What is known as Al Qaeda today, is the name Western media and governments gave to hardcore organised Sunni Muslim Terrorists after the 11th September 2001.

I support the Free Syrian Army (50,000 in strength and used to have an Orthodox Christian leader), the Syrian Liberation Front (35-40,000 in Strength) and the Popular Protection Units aka Syrian Kurds (around 10,000 in strength). But if you were to believe Russian/ Iranian/ Assad's state media, all of these who are opposed to Assad would be considered 'Al Qaeda'. However 'Al Qaeda' in Syria are only believed to be between 2,000 to 6,000 in strength according to different sources. They are engaged in the Syrian Civil War for two reasons. 1) They thrive where there is chaos, which in Syria has been caused by Dictator Assad's refusal to listen to the Syrian people and step down. 2) Al Qaeda are Sunni Muslims and they are opposed to the Shi'ite Muslim terrorists in Syria who were imported/ hired by Assad, Russia and Iran.

Assad, Russia and Iran are to blame for Al Qaeda's presence in Syria.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

hey rocky, a recent nato sponsored poll of syrian citizens, not combatants in syria, has 70% support for assad. of that 70%, 80% are sunni. they say that assad is the lesser of two evils, better the devil you know than the one you don't.
again, this is a nato conducted poll. if nato is to be considered a trustworthy organization in the slightest, these polls certainly are to be trusted too.
however, you might have to do some digging to find it, because nato-based media aren't the ones running this story as it goes completely against their narrative.
(jimbo, 14 June 2013 16:59)

Hey Jimbo, if you want us to believe you, then state your source if, in fact, one exists. Or, perhaps you just want us to go on a wild goose chase. I'm quite confident you are fibbing since I'm sure no such NATO sponsored survey exists. Nice try though.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

It wasn't the Russians and iranians who started the war in Syria now was it? It was a soudiarabian backed sunni militia. I hope America fails in Syria as they have failed all over the world. Assad is mr Democracy himself compared to the Jihadists on the sunni side. Besides, it funny how muslims are destroying their countries and their people just because they can't share power. That says a lot about your backward religion.
(MikeC, 14 June 2013 23:08)

Correct, it wasn't the Russians or Iranians who started the War. It was Dictator Assad who started the war by sending in the Army to crack down on the protesters. The murder of these innocent civilians caused the war.

How can America fail in Syria when all they are doing is observing?

Assad is Mr Democracy? HAHAHAHA! He is Mr Sham election cheat/ Mr State of Emergency to Stay in Power/ Mr Kill Innocent Civilians who oppose him to stay in power/ Mr hire terrorists to fight for him so he can stay in power.

"your region" haha! As we say in Welsh: Rydych yn basdad dwp!

I'm an Atheist. I have no religion. I hate all religion.

You're the one supporting the regime backed by die hard Islamic Jihadist Extremist Terrorists. I'm supporting the regime which is multi-ethnic (Arab, Kurd, Turkmen and Armenian) and multi religious (Muslim and Christian), which until recently had an Orthodox Christian leader.

Reader

pre 10 godina

Boobie

Ian's writen abilities in english are below average and therefore I wouldn't call Ian as a product of the british educational system.
(Gotsefromohrid, 15 June 2013 10:28)

writen -> written
writen abilities -> writing abilities
call Ian as a product -> call Ian a product

a New Day

pre 10 godina

Someone, somehow must stop them.
(Peggy, 14 June 2013 13:40)
Exactly the words the world was using in 1998 and 1999 about Serbia until the US led NATO in a response. One has to wonder how much blood would have been spilled without that intervention.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

Time for Assad to step down.. Just like S. Milosevich, S. Hussein, & Gaddafi! All dictators be on watch!!! God bless the USA, democracy together with her allies, and may freedom be established thruout planet earth!

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

How long does US want to have blood on their hands?
How many must die for these monsters to be satisfied?
Where does it all end?
Someone, somehow must stop them.
(Peggy, 14 June 2013 13:40)

One thing is for sure, the US won't have as much blood on their hands as Russia and Iran do from Syria

You say someone must stop the US, but what about Russia and Iran?
They're openly arming and financing hardcore radical foreign Islamist Jihadist extremist terrorists in Syria such as Hezbollah, the Basij, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Kata'ib, PFLP-GC, Jaysh al-Sha'bi, Shabiha, Lijan militias, al-Abbas brigade, Houthis and many other Iraqi and Iranian insurgent groups.

Why should someone stop the US, but not Russia and Iran? Is this because you support hardcore Islamist extremist terrorists in Syria?

Just short of 100,000 innocent civilians have died due to Russia's and Iran's blood thirsty terrorist backed puppet in Syria. Vladmir Putin doesn't care about these civilian losses, all he cares about is making money and the Syrian Civil War has proved to be very profitable for Russia's economy.

Nenad

pre 10 godina

No one doubts the US has evidence. However there is a monumental difference between evidence & FABRICATED evidence. You always deliver the later. History shows that.
(One for truth, and only the truth, 14 June 2013 12:41)

I agree that the US has a deeply tarnished reputation when it comes to claiming to have evidence that justifies military intervention - the Iraq WMD case provides a clear example. But I must say, it's a wee bit irresponsible to presume that the US is always the one lying, or always the bad guy. How can you be so certain that Assad hasn't used sarin gas? What has he done over the years to win your trust on this matter? Do you even live in Syria? Do you know anything about its political history?

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

(Gotsefromohrid, 14 June 2013 16:15)

I don't support Al Qaeda. Do they even exist? There were supposedly disbanded/ retired by the CIA in 1997. What is known as Al Qaeda today, is the name Western media and governments gave to hardcore organised Sunni Muslim Terrorists after the 11th September 2001.

I support the Free Syrian Army (50,000 in strength and used to have an Orthodox Christian leader), the Syrian Liberation Front (35-40,000 in Strength) and the Popular Protection Units aka Syrian Kurds (around 10,000 in strength). But if you were to believe Russian/ Iranian/ Assad's state media, all of these who are opposed to Assad would be considered 'Al Qaeda'. However 'Al Qaeda' in Syria are only believed to be between 2,000 to 6,000 in strength according to different sources. They are engaged in the Syrian Civil War for two reasons. 1) They thrive where there is chaos, which in Syria has been caused by Dictator Assad's refusal to listen to the Syrian people and step down. 2) Al Qaeda are Sunni Muslims and they are opposed to the Shi'ite Muslim terrorists in Syria who were imported/ hired by Assad, Russia and Iran.

Assad, Russia and Iran are to blame for Al Qaeda's presence in Syria.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

It wasn't the Russians and iranians who started the war in Syria now was it? It was a soudiarabian backed sunni militia. I hope America fails in Syria as they have failed all over the world. Assad is mr Democracy himself compared to the Jihadists on the sunni side. Besides, it funny how muslims are destroying their countries and their people just because they can't share power. That says a lot about your backward religion.
(MikeC, 14 June 2013 23:08)

Correct, it wasn't the Russians or Iranians who started the War. It was Dictator Assad who started the war by sending in the Army to crack down on the protesters. The murder of these innocent civilians caused the war.

How can America fail in Syria when all they are doing is observing?

Assad is Mr Democracy? HAHAHAHA! He is Mr Sham election cheat/ Mr State of Emergency to Stay in Power/ Mr Kill Innocent Civilians who oppose him to stay in power/ Mr hire terrorists to fight for him so he can stay in power.

"your region" haha! As we say in Welsh: Rydych yn basdad dwp!

I'm an Atheist. I have no religion. I hate all religion.

You're the one supporting the regime backed by die hard Islamic Jihadist Extremist Terrorists. I'm supporting the regime which is multi-ethnic (Arab, Kurd, Turkmen and Armenian) and multi religious (Muslim and Christian), which until recently had an Orthodox Christian leader.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

hey rocky, a recent nato sponsored poll of syrian citizens, not combatants in syria, has 70% support for assad. of that 70%, 80% are sunni. they say that assad is the lesser of two evils, better the devil you know than the one you don't.
again, this is a nato conducted poll. if nato is to be considered a trustworthy organization in the slightest, these polls certainly are to be trusted too.
however, you might have to do some digging to find it, because nato-based media aren't the ones running this story as it goes completely against their narrative.
(jimbo, 14 June 2013 16:59)

Hey Jimbo, if you want us to believe you, then state your source if, in fact, one exists. Or, perhaps you just want us to go on a wild goose chase. I'm quite confident you are fibbing since I'm sure no such NATO sponsored survey exists. Nice try though.

One for truth, and only the truth

pre 10 godina

No one doubts the US has evidence. However there is a monumental difference between evidence & FABRICATED evidence. You always deliver the later. History shows that.

Leonidas

pre 10 godina

The Western media, the neo-con pundits, and the Obama Administration incessantly parrot the narrative which is strikingly similar to what we heard in the build-up to Gulf War II, they point inevitably to President Bashar al-Assad’s might just be crazy enough to use chemical and/or biological agents – an accusation Assad himself has repeatedly denied.He is also responsible for the whole mess, the typical mindset of the aggressor; just as Saddam was responsible for the 500,000 Iraqi children Western sanctions on that country caused.

Practically every story from Syria is a story about the 'free Syrians'; usually about a 'massacre' of 'civilians', which generally turn out to be males of fighting age.What actually happens is when some gang of terrorists funded by Washington (the same kind of gang that bin Laden used to run in Afghanistan) is killed by the Syrian army, Washington sends out what amounts to a 'martyrdom' press release.

How did the US get the "new evidence" on the use of sarin gas used by Assad forces?Probably by hacking into Assad's twitter or Facebook account.Joking apart the US and its allies have used all their political capital at home and abroad to be taken seriously.Memories of the WNDS fiasco in Iraq,the British forged documents of Iraqi uranium imports from Niger and Blair's famous 45 minutes are still with us.Who has recently used depleted uranium bombs in Iraq & Libya ? White phosphorous in Serbia?The deformed new born give the answer.

Robert1899

pre 10 godina

Just like the U.S. had evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 100k dead kosovo albanians. It is all a pretext for military intervention by the U.S. government.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

How long does US want to have blood on their hands?
How many must die for these monsters to be satisfied?
Where does it all end?
Someone, somehow must stop them.

robert1899

pre 10 godina

Nenad,

Why did the U.S. provide weapons to Saddam Hussein back in the early 1980's even though there was hard evidence (pic's of the dead) Saddam used chemical weapons to kill Kurds in Northern Iraq. Was that not as reprehensible an act as these alligations? When a government's policies are based on a blatant double standard it losses credibility.

a New Day

pre 10 godina

Someone, somehow must stop them.
(Peggy, 14 June 2013 13:40)
Exactly the words the world was using in 1998 and 1999 about Serbia until the US led NATO in a response. One has to wonder how much blood would have been spilled without that intervention.

boobie

pre 10 godina

nenad,
though its clear that one shouldn't trust assad, as he hasn't earned it as you say, the us has lost what ever they once had

ian,
the allies (us et al) have blood on their hands too. as much as russia/iran. 2 kg of sarin was confiscated by turkish border guards. the offenders were known agents/insurgents/freedom-fighters/western-sponsored-friends/terrorists (depending on how you look at it). where oh where did they get the sarin? the un, homed in nyc, managed by usa/uk/france (3/5 of the psc), have expressed concerns over the chemical weapons used by the non-assad-fighters.
you cry foul that assad has been given weapons to fight what he considers terorists, 'iran and russia bad' (sounds like hulk hogan circa 1984), but is there hard proof besides intelligence reports? is there any trail of evidence as to how the insurgency came into weapons? did they fashion them out of sand and sticks? or perhaps can it tracked to some other country, saudia arabia perhaps?
if you weren't so clearly biased it would be easier to take you seriously. both you as assad, graduates of the british education system.

Niko

pre 10 godina

Ian,

I am British born and bred. You obviously have little knowledge of ME culture, religious affiliations or politics other than what you garner from the western media and wikipedia.

I have now lived in ME for close on 10 years and have intigrated very well with all religions and cultures. The civil war in Syria is bigger than you can imagine with so many outside players its like a who's who of the UN.

Latest reports put the number of (foreign) backed Sunni extremists at 20,000 and (Foreign) backed Shia extremists at 6,000.

The majority of the muslims I know are all moderate and have no support for either side as they know the west has caused so much pain and suffering in this part of the world for decades.

As usual these posts and your trolling of B92 (eng) for the last 5 years are far off the mark in terms of knowledge. You really need to get out of the Valleys for a wee while.

Reader

pre 10 godina

Boobie

Ian's writen abilities in english are below average and therefore I wouldn't call Ian as a product of the british educational system.
(Gotsefromohrid, 15 June 2013 10:28)

writen -> written
writen abilities -> writing abilities
call Ian as a product -> call Ian a product

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

I think it is well known to all posters here who supports the al qaeda rebels in syria and is none othsr than you.I psrssonally do not blame you cos living in bradfordistan uk with 150000 muslims and attending local mosque for prayers is a natural thing to do.However your islamist friends in syria are history.

jimbo

pre 10 godina

hey rocky, a recent nato sponsored poll of syrian citizens, not combatants in syria, has 70% support for assad. of that 70%, 80% are sunni. they say that assad is the lesser of two evils, better the devil you know than the one you don't.
again, this is a nato conducted poll. if nato is to be considered a trustworthy organization in the slightest, these polls certainly are to be trusted too.
however, you might have to do some digging to find it, because nato-based media aren't the ones running this story as it goes completely against their narrative.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

Ian, UK

It wasn't the Russians and iranians who started the war in Syria now was it? It was a soudiarabian backed sunni militia. I hope America fails in Syria as they have failed all over the world. Assad is mr Democracy himself compared to the Jihadists on the sunni side. Besides, it funny how muslims are destroying their countries and their people just because they can't share power. That says a lot about your backward religion.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

Boobie

Ian's writen abilities in english are below average and therefore I wouldn't call Ian as a product of the british educational system.

Leonidas

pre 10 godina

Ian

It was Dictator Assad who started the war by sending in the Army to crack down on the protesters.

He didn't. He just responded to an externally sponsored insurgency carried out by sectarian jihadis and supported by the US, Nato and the Gulf Monarchies.The armed plan was in place years before the kick-off, as was the nursery rhyme narrative that you have just repeated.

Assad is Mr Democracy?

He's been elected unlike your hereditary head state with its associate parasites milking the state £ millions/year through the civil list and tax avoidance.Your kind of democracy is also reflected through the unelected lords who visit the house either to sleep and only ask questions when they get paid handsomely.I nearly forgot, then you've got DC who's been elected with 33% of the 58% of voters who voted in the last election.That's democracy.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"Why should someone stop the US, but not Russia and Iran? Is this because you support hardcore Islamist extremist terrorists in Syria?"
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Did you really just ask that question seriously?
It is the US who has always supported the Islamists not Russia. When those Islamists turn on the US then they are forced to fight them.
Just ask yourself if the Christians of those countries are better off now than they were when "Jihadists" ruled.

You are so deluded that you believe your own crap.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Ian you fail to recognize that the regime is highly secular and those "freedom fighters"as you wish to call them are nothing but extreme jihadists funded by the US and Saudiarabia. Do you really think another scenario like the one in Egypt where the same kind of islamist militia took down a western-oriented regime and replaced it with the muslim brotherhood?Is that your way of a multiethnic country?

Daniel

pre 10 godina

God bless the USA, democracy together with her allies, and may freedom be established thruout planet earth!
(Rocky, 14 June 2013 14:25

I say to h... with the USA and wouldnt cry a tear if it was wiped out from the face of earth. The so called "democracy fighters"are nothing but ruthless terrorists that would do anything it takes to protect (and increase)their own interests. Do you really think they care about the people of Syria and Iraq?All they care is about the dollar sign and the black gold, look at how Iraq was before they put their nose in and look at it now, they have totally ruined what was once the most prosperous country in the whole region, just because of their own greed. When you say that the us want democracy bear in mind the picture where the us soldiers put dog collars on Iraqi war prisoners and urinate on them, I bet you approve of that to, after all all they want is peace and democracy right?

Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember Nicaragua and Bolivia, remember Vietnam, remember the millions of people that the US murdered throgh the years in order to fill their pockets. May god have mercy on the souls of this ruthless killingmachines victims. One sunny and happy day the us citizens will pay for all that. I prefer sooner rather than later.