Vulin accuses Priština of "opposing integration"

So Albanians should have Albanian police departments in Presheva Valley, everything Serbs want in the north Albanians should get it in Presheva. Why should there be double standards for Serbs? They're the actual problem in the entire Balkan region. Serbs are looking for anything to complain about... That shows their desperation to stick their nose where it doesn't belong in first place.

TO ALBANIAN : I thought you where Kosovalbanian already.You have well learned to spin the table...The country of Albanian is Albania.That is where your (maybe not only the nose but a lower part of the body)belong.Everything any other people got the Serbs should not get by your standard and that is wrong,the double standard has so far applied to Serbs exclusively so far.You are the former aliens and Serbs did not arrived Kosovo during the cold war unlike Albanians.

Not because you keep repeating aplenty the same stance that it makes it right or just....

How can hiring 100-150 police officers be loss of jobs. For 13 years Serbia has denied having Serbian police in Kosovo, you are not telling me they have been lying all this time?????

He is trying to whitewash his hands. The known fact is, there is no greater opponent of the agreements than hw minself, and he even publicly said so. Another fact is that Belgrade is stalling the implementation of any of the so far reached agreements. The arguments it uses, for instance when it comes to implent the agreement on free movenment, are wrong, and the EU stated that on more than one occation. Serbs in the north are citizens of Kosovo, and therefore will have to take Kosovo ID cards, license plates, etc. Belgrade even signed that once more with Brussels agreement, and still argues, like just yesterday again, that those people are serb citizens, and still don't need to take Kosovo id's.
Serbia will never get, and should never get a date for the EU talks if it acts like that. Serbia in its current political state can and will not fit into the value system of the EU.

800 police for communities totaling 30,000 talk about your police state. By international ratios 100 to 150 would be more appropriate ratio, probably a little heavy.

Oh please. Kuci's remarks are another empty statement from a group of people with no authority over the area they're talking about. If Serbs want to employ 1000 police that's their right. From Kuci to Thaci, comments from Pristina are impotent rhetoric from people with neither the authority nor the presence in northern Kosovo. Just more paranoid statements from Albanians who can barely conceal their contempt for the policies they're forced to accept.

Vulin aka MIB(man in black), is a big liar. I am glad he is managing to fool its own fellow Serbs in Serbia+ Kosova.

"....members of our Interior Ministry in KiM"

We were under the impression that there were no policemen in northern portion. This is what even your premier has stated.


Tung,

Nothing unusual.Firstly, Pristina agrees to something, afterwards they do everything in order not to make it happen. Already seen and heard scenario!

Prishtina wants to impose its will over people who don't want it, Prishtina doesn't want integration.

Yet you blaim Belgrade, and not a word of critics of Brussels which imposed enslaving agreement on the small country which faces complete isolation and has little room for manoeuvring.

enslaving
(aaayyy, 11 June 2013 17:41)
How many thousands of times have your govt officials said that Serbia will never recognize an independent Kosovo under any conditions. They did pitch a partition scheme a while back but still said they would not recognize the rest of Kosovo.
So don't play like "we are here open to talk"

I've said on many occasions that Serbia should fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia and recognise the independence of Kosovo south of the Ibar River in return for a fully autonomous Serb entity south of the Ibar River.

(Ian)

That's quite reasonable, but who is against even discussion about it? Yes, EU/US/Prishtina, not "fat cat politicians in Belgrade".

Yet you blaim Belgrade, and not a word of critics of Brussels which imposed enslaving agreement on the small country which faces complete isolation and has little room for manoeuvring.

enslaving

Serbian side will respect the Brussel agreement to the last letter. The question is what will the Albanians do. They are the ones not respecting any deals

@Albanian
Isn't the commander of the local police in Preshevo ethnic Albanian?, I remember reading that he was present along with his local officers, some of whom were also surely ethnic Albanian, when the Serbian Gendarme removed the Albanian Terrorist monument in Preshevo some months ago. I'm sure there were also Serbian Muslim and ethnic Albanian officers in the Gendarme. I commend them in the professional manner in which they served their mother country and conducted themselves regarding the removal of an illegal Albanian terrorist monument in their country of Serbia. The matter has been put to rest and nobody was injured. That is the difference between professional police officers in Serbia and rag tag former KLA Albanian terrorist war criminals who wear police badges in Kosovo today.

What else to expect from Kosovo Albanians? They never have an intention to implement what was agreed, especially if they could use that to prevent Serbia from getting the date.

Popis 1961. godine[uredi - уреди]Prema zvaničnom popisu SFRJ iz 1961. bilo je 963.959 stanovnika Kosova, od toga:


Etnički sastav stanovništva 1961.646,604 Albanci (67.08%)
227,016 Srbi (23.55%)
37,588 Crnogorci (3.9%)
8,026 Muslimani (0.83%)
7,251 Hrvati (0.75%)
5,203 Jugosloveni (0.54%)
3,202 Romi (0.33%)
1,142 Makedonci (0.12%)
510 Slovenci (0.05%)
210 Mađari (0.02%)


Hey Nikolle 1961 there was 230 000 serbs and now its down to merely 40 000, what does that tell you?No ethnic cleansing right?

The kosova deal abolishes all Serb autonomy and makes all Serbs employees of pristina! Presevo Albanians want that level of Belgrade control! Albanian know your agreements and what they say! You dont want this deal for presevo!
(Brian, 11 June 2013 19:31)

Brian, do you even bother to read what's going on or do you just make up crap to comment on? I mean seriously you even contradicted yourself above. First, you make up some idea that Serbs now work for Pristina and autonomy is abolished, then you say Presevo Albanians will want the same arrangement for Belgrade and Serbia better watch out. Watch out for what? Control over Presevo? They have that already.

Go home. You're drunk.

If presevo got a deal like kosova Belgrade would appoint Albanian heads of police departments like Serbs would be appointed by pristina. The kosova deal abolishes all Serb autonomy and makes all Serbs employees of pristina! Presevo Albanians want that level of Belgrade control! Albanian know your agreements and what they say! You dont want this deal for presevo!

@Questioner

If 200000 Serbs had been expelled, there'd not be a single Serb left in Kosova today. If you're going to quote nonsense figures, be ambitious, you may as well write half a million expelled.

"Serbian side will respect the Brussel agreement to the last letter. The question is what will the Albanians do. They are the ones not respecting any deals" - Nick

Last time I checked...Serbia hasn't implemented anything either

I know Serbs have a habit of believing nonsense Daniel; according to Serbia's own statistics, there were 110000 Serbs in Kosova eligabe to vote in last years elections. This you'll notice means only people 18 and over. Don't worry, it wouldn't be the first time you get things wrong.

800 police for communities totaling 30,000 talk about your police state. By international ratios 100 to 150 would be more appropriate ratio, probably a little heavy.
(a New Day, 11 June 2013 17:20)

Indeed. Thought it is more like 40.000 Serbs living in the northern region, and maybe, for the ration, the about 200.000 Serbian refugees who left Kosovo or were expelled by Albanians are counted, too?

How many members has the police in whole Kosovo?

Serbian side will respect the Brussel agreement to the last letter. The question is what will the Albanians do. They are the ones not respecting any deals
(Nick, 11 June 2013 21:22) History has proven you wrong over and over.
Serbia agrees to one thing in Brussels comes home and reinterprets it totally different and then blames Albanians for not honoring it. Everytime the EU has had to step in and provide what the true agreements are Serbia has been proven wrong.
It almost sounds like you are actually part of the negotiation team, are you?

(Questioner, 11 June 2013 19:11)
Well the numbers do change daily according to who is using them and why. I was only using the last number I remember hearing.
I like the numbers of refugees or Serbs that have left or been chased out of Kosovo. The numbers I hear are 150-200 thousand lived there before and now 150-175 thousand live there now and 200 thousand were expelled. I have to admit that it has been about 30 years since I took a math class but I doubt it has really changed that much.
But are you suggesting that they hire an extra 650-700 police officers to cover people who have not lived in Kosovo for more than a decade?

Serbia has to say it wont recognize kosova over and over because the agreements it reaches all point to total recognition like border guards and customs agents and liaison officer ambassadors and meetings with thaci and presidents and all those things that indicate to all in the world that Serbia recognizes kosova independence. Like saying Kosova can be in the EU which is for independent countries.

"800 police for communities totaling 30,000"
(a New Day, 11 June 2013 17:20)

I would be a little bit careful with the numbers. It is usually the first thing to be manipulated. Especially considering who is talking, that is Vulin. Most likely it is less than 30,000 or 40,000. And who knows what the 800 really is. It depends on what Vulin, the Great Resigner, thinks is more convenient, inflate or deflate the number. Maybe it is 300, or maybe it is 2,000. If the locals would accept to be registered with Kosovo ID-s we would know the real number, but that is one more reason for not implementing the agreement isn't it?

Oh here comes vulin talking crap as usual...leadership of the exhausted defeated and empowered serbia still thinks is firing all the shots & as if they are still major power...well wake up you fools because time of resolving disputes through violence is over you had your chance and you blew up all opportunities. If you want to live in peace you should leave others in peace there is no other way the alternative is more desolution and misery thats why most of your neighbours despise you for self-destructive policies, which always come back to hunt down their initiators.

So Albanians should have Albanian police departments in Presheva Valley, everything Serbs want in the north Albanians should get it in Presheva. Why should there be double standards for Serbs? They're the actual problem in the entire Balkan region. Serbs are looking for anything to complain about... That shows their desperation to stick their nose where it doesn't belong in first place.

Oh please. Kuci's remarks are another empty statement from a group of people with no authority over the area they're talking about. If Serbs want to employ 1000 police that's their right. From Kuci to Thaci, comments from Pristina are impotent rhetoric from people with neither the authority nor the presence in northern Kosovo. Just more paranoid statements from Albanians who can barely conceal their contempt for the policies they're forced to accept.

TO ALBANIAN : I thought you where Kosovalbanian already.You have well learned to spin the table...The country of Albanian is Albania.That is where your (maybe not only the nose but a lower part of the body)belong.Everything any other people got the Serbs should not get by your standard and that is wrong,the double standard has so far applied to Serbs exclusively so far.You are the former aliens and Serbs did not arrived Kosovo during the cold war unlike Albanians.

Not because you keep repeating aplenty the same stance that it makes it right or just....

He is trying to whitewash his hands. The known fact is, there is no greater opponent of the agreements than hw minself, and he even publicly said so. Another fact is that Belgrade is stalling the implementation of any of the so far reached agreements. The arguments it uses, for instance when it comes to implent the agreement on free movenment, are wrong, and the EU stated that on more than one occation. Serbs in the north are citizens of Kosovo, and therefore will have to take Kosovo ID cards, license plates, etc. Belgrade even signed that once more with Brussels agreement, and still argues, like just yesterday again, that those people are serb citizens, and still don't need to take Kosovo id's.
Serbia will never get, and should never get a date for the EU talks if it acts like that. Serbia in its current political state can and will not fit into the value system of the EU.

Nothing unusual.Firstly, Pristina agrees to something, afterwards they do everything in order not to make it happen. Already seen and heard scenario!

Prishtina wants to impose its will over people who don't want it, Prishtina doesn't want integration.

I've said on many occasions that Serbia should fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia and recognise the independence of Kosovo south of the Ibar River in return for a fully autonomous Serb entity south of the Ibar River.

(Ian)

That's quite reasonable, but who is against even discussion about it? Yes, EU/US/Prishtina, not "fat cat politicians in Belgrade".

Yet you blaim Belgrade, and not a word of critics of Brussels which imposed enslaving agreement on the small country which faces complete isolation and has little room for manoeuvring.

enslaving

800 police for communities totaling 30,000 talk about your police state. By international ratios 100 to 150 would be more appropriate ratio, probably a little heavy.
(a New Day, 11 June 2013 17:20)

Indeed. Thought it is more like 40.000 Serbs living in the northern region, and maybe, for the ration, the about 200.000 Serbian refugees who left Kosovo or were expelled by Albanians are counted, too?

How many members has the police in whole Kosovo?

Vulin aka MIB(man in black), is a big liar. I am glad he is managing to fool its own fellow Serbs in Serbia+ Kosova.

800 police for communities totaling 30,000 talk about your police state. By international ratios 100 to 150 would be more appropriate ratio, probably a little heavy.

Serbian side will respect the Brussel agreement to the last letter. The question is what will the Albanians do. They are the ones not respecting any deals

If presevo got a deal like kosova Belgrade would appoint Albanian heads of police departments like Serbs would be appointed by pristina. The kosova deal abolishes all Serb autonomy and makes all Serbs employees of pristina! Presevo Albanians want that level of Belgrade control! Albanian know your agreements and what they say! You dont want this deal for presevo!

How can hiring 100-150 police officers be loss of jobs. For 13 years Serbia has denied having Serbian police in Kosovo, you are not telling me they have been lying all this time?????

@Albanian
Isn't the commander of the local police in Preshevo ethnic Albanian?, I remember reading that he was present along with his local officers, some of whom were also surely ethnic Albanian, when the Serbian Gendarme removed the Albanian Terrorist monument in Preshevo some months ago. I'm sure there were also Serbian Muslim and ethnic Albanian officers in the Gendarme. I commend them in the professional manner in which they served their mother country and conducted themselves regarding the removal of an illegal Albanian terrorist monument in their country of Serbia. The matter has been put to rest and nobody was injured. That is the difference between professional police officers in Serbia and rag tag former KLA Albanian terrorist war criminals who wear police badges in Kosovo today.

@Questioner

If 200000 Serbs had been expelled, there'd not be a single Serb left in Kosova today. If you're going to quote nonsense figures, be ambitious, you may as well write half a million expelled.

The kosova deal abolishes all Serb autonomy and makes all Serbs employees of pristina! Presevo Albanians want that level of Belgrade control! Albanian know your agreements and what they say! You dont want this deal for presevo!
(Brian, 11 June 2013 19:31)

Brian, do you even bother to read what's going on or do you just make up crap to comment on? I mean seriously you even contradicted yourself above. First, you make up some idea that Serbs now work for Pristina and autonomy is abolished, then you say Presevo Albanians will want the same arrangement for Belgrade and Serbia better watch out. Watch out for what? Control over Presevo? They have that already.

Go home. You're drunk.

What else to expect from Kosovo Albanians? They never have an intention to implement what was agreed, especially if they could use that to prevent Serbia from getting the date.

Popis 1961. godine[uredi - уреди]Prema zvaničnom popisu SFRJ iz 1961. bilo je 963.959 stanovnika Kosova, od toga:


Etnički sastav stanovništva 1961.646,604 Albanci (67.08%)
227,016 Srbi (23.55%)
37,588 Crnogorci (3.9%)
8,026 Muslimani (0.83%)
7,251 Hrvati (0.75%)
5,203 Jugosloveni (0.54%)
3,202 Romi (0.33%)
1,142 Makedonci (0.12%)
510 Slovenci (0.05%)
210 Mađari (0.02%)


Hey Nikolle 1961 there was 230 000 serbs and now its down to merely 40 000, what does that tell you?No ethnic cleansing right?

"....members of our Interior Ministry in KiM"

We were under the impression that there were no policemen in northern portion. This is what even your premier has stated.


Tung,

Yet you blaim Belgrade, and not a word of critics of Brussels which imposed enslaving agreement on the small country which faces complete isolation and has little room for manoeuvring.

enslaving
(aaayyy, 11 June 2013 17:41)
How many thousands of times have your govt officials said that Serbia will never recognize an independent Kosovo under any conditions. They did pitch a partition scheme a while back but still said they would not recognize the rest of Kosovo.
So don't play like "we are here open to talk"

Serbian side will respect the Brussel agreement to the last letter. The question is what will the Albanians do. They are the ones not respecting any deals
(Nick, 11 June 2013 21:22) History has proven you wrong over and over.
Serbia agrees to one thing in Brussels comes home and reinterprets it totally different and then blames Albanians for not honoring it. Everytime the EU has had to step in and provide what the true agreements are Serbia has been proven wrong.
It almost sounds like you are actually part of the negotiation team, are you?

Serbia has to say it wont recognize kosova over and over because the agreements it reaches all point to total recognition like border guards and customs agents and liaison officer ambassadors and meetings with thaci and presidents and all those things that indicate to all in the world that Serbia recognizes kosova independence. Like saying Kosova can be in the EU which is for independent countries.

"Serbian side will respect the Brussel agreement to the last letter. The question is what will the Albanians do. They are the ones not respecting any deals" - Nick

Last time I checked...Serbia hasn't implemented anything either

I know Serbs have a habit of believing nonsense Daniel; according to Serbia's own statistics, there were 110000 Serbs in Kosova eligabe to vote in last years elections. This you'll notice means only people 18 and over. Don't worry, it wouldn't be the first time you get things wrong.

(Questioner, 11 June 2013 19:11)
Well the numbers do change daily according to who is using them and why. I was only using the last number I remember hearing.
I like the numbers of refugees or Serbs that have left or been chased out of Kosovo. The numbers I hear are 150-200 thousand lived there before and now 150-175 thousand live there now and 200 thousand were expelled. I have to admit that it has been about 30 years since I took a math class but I doubt it has really changed that much.
But are you suggesting that they hire an extra 650-700 police officers to cover people who have not lived in Kosovo for more than a decade?

"800 police for communities totaling 30,000"
(a New Day, 11 June 2013 17:20)

I would be a little bit careful with the numbers. It is usually the first thing to be manipulated. Especially considering who is talking, that is Vulin. Most likely it is less than 30,000 or 40,000. And who knows what the 800 really is. It depends on what Vulin, the Great Resigner, thinks is more convenient, inflate or deflate the number. Maybe it is 300, or maybe it is 2,000. If the locals would accept to be registered with Kosovo ID-s we would know the real number, but that is one more reason for not implementing the agreement isn't it?

Oh here comes vulin talking crap as usual...leadership of the exhausted defeated and empowered serbia still thinks is firing all the shots & as if they are still major power...well wake up you fools because time of resolving disputes through violence is over you had your chance and you blew up all opportunities. If you want to live in peace you should leave others in peace there is no other way the alternative is more desolution and misery thats why most of your neighbours despise you for self-destructive policies, which always come back to hunt down their initiators.