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Thursday, 23.05.2013.

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Mosques attacked after killing of soldier

Over 100 members of Britain's ultra right-wing group EDL gathered last night near the spot where a British soldier was brutally murdered in London.

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Peggy

pre 10 godina

Peggy, you've been reading too much of Pamela Geller
(Nikolle, 25 May 2013 14:09)
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She's right. It doesn't matter where the truth comes from as long as it's the truth and Pamela speaks it.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

femi, you are unbelievable. You tried to pin on Chetniks the fact that they were the bad guys and when I give you proof of how they were with the allies you dismiss it and tell me to look for proof in Bosnia. The allies are the Australians who allow them to march with them on that very special occasion. That proves something but of course you dismiss it because it doesn't fit your distortion of truth.

Never mind that for now. I have asked you more than once to give us evidence where I claimed that I was not Serbian. You conveniently leave it alone now that you know you cannot.
So either take back what you said or give us that proof.

If you can't then apologise for lying.
I am not letting you off the hook. So how about it. Either apologise to me or prove me wrong.

femi

pre 10 godina

Peggy
“Talk to Australian government about chentinks?”
Really? Why that far… Why not talk to Bosnian government, Bosnian families, Kosovar families and villages bordering Serbia. There is where, you should seek the truth. You seek the truth about the Balkans and a particular radical party in Australia. It is similar for someone who studies human evolution to say “Let’s go to the Moon to look for human fossils there”. You are actually unbelievable the way you think and function.

Peggy
“So yes, I hate the haters. Something wrong with that?”

No it is not! But I don’t think you do!! Srebrenica, Srebrenica, Srebrenica. Remember the 8000 Man and boys executed by haters. Not once I have seen you hating these haters, if not praised. You only hate those who don’t agree and do not share your views just like these Muslim radicals in mosques.

Peggy
“Also, I do not advocate any terrorist activity”.
After reading a lot of you stuff the hate you spill over here I have come to a conclusion that you are similar to the imams in mosques who encourage terrorist activity and yet they themselves would never do it because they don’t want to go to prison. Simply put it they don’t have balls, and neither do you! Or maybe you actually do --__--

Peggy

pre 10 godina

femi, again I ask you to produce some evidence that when I first appeared here I claimed I was not a Serb or shut the hell up.
Seriously, I am fed up with this rubbish. I have already replied to you here that I never said that and asked you to produce some evidence of it if you insist on claiming it. So prove it or shut up. You are unbelievable. Keep repeating the same cr@p over and over even though you have not one shred of evidence.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Peggy is proud of Chetniks!

Chetniks supposed to fight the German army so they claimed. But the British stopped arming Chetniks and started to arm partisans of Tito instead because chetinks hardly ever engaged with German soldiers
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That's because of communist infiltrators who were giving the British wrong intelligence.

Now proof of that is that Chetniks march along with allied soldiers here in Australia every year on Anzac day not partizans not ustasha and not Albanians.
So smart femi, tell us why then should I be ashamed. Have the Australians got it wrong and the Nazi supporters be allowed to march here?

This is proof that chetniks were the good guys according to the west. Talk to Australian government and tell them what you wrote here and see which one of us is right. If chetniks were the bad guys I am sure they would not be allowed to march.

Why don't you educate yourself instead of spreading cr@p on here?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

I see no difference between you and them in terms of how you relate to others that is not similar to you or does not share your views.
(femi, 24 May 2013 17:49)
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Many people don't share my views about many things but I don't get angry about it.
What I am angry about is people who come on here and still find a way to condemn the Serbs for speaking the truth, which in reality means that they are supporting the Muslims.
I am not against all Muslims, but I am a realist enough to know that it's not only a small minority who harbour resentment and hate towards us. Proof is everywhere. So yes, I hate the haters.
Something wrong with that?
I never said all Muslims, only many if not majority.

Again, trying to shut me up with name calling is not working. Also, I do not advocate any terrorist activity so don't put me in the same basket.

All I am saying is deport all who enable the nut jobs and don't bring any more in.
If you think this is extreme instead of smart then keep thinking it.

The Balkans

pre 10 godina

(femi, 24 May 2013 17:49)

It's utter hypocrisy, thank you.

People like Peggers over there demonize all Croats for instance for the things their Fascists did back in WW2, yet refuse to acknowledge the terrible things which Serb soldiers and leaders and whoever else did since then.

Whatever. Hate - it's blinding.

Amer

pre 10 godina

"You will not shut us up by calling us extremists or racists. We know we are realists.
(Peggy, 24 May 2013 16:05) "

That may be your view of yourselves, but even more-realistic types know that totally subjugating, not to mention "removing" members of a different group from society just doesn't work. Love one another, or die, says the poet. Christian and Jewish religious leaders are speaking in mosques today in London (try reading the Guardian rather than the Telegraph for a change) saying something similar. This is a time for putting out fires, not for splashing gasoline around.

Renko

pre 10 godina

"Anyone who dares to speak the truth about Muslims (majority not minority as you claim) is considered ultra-nationalist, extremist, nationalist etc. etc. according to you."

Peggy is absolutely right. Most British people are too scared of having the "fascist finger" pointed at them if they speak openly. I suspect that Serbs and Russians are less intimidated and more courageous.

femi

pre 10 godina

I see, B92 has carved up and sliced up my telling off to Peggy in the previous post. Never mind!


Peggy The way you express yourself (full of hate) is almost similar to these Muslims that you refer to and you yourself condemn them.

I see no difference between you and them in terms of how you relate to others that is not similar to you or does not share your views.

femi

pre 10 godina

Peggy is proud of Chetniks!

Chetniks supposed to fight the German army so they claimed. But the British stopped arming Chetniks and started to arm partisans of Tito instead because chetinks hardly ever engaged with German soldiers. Instead Chentniks engaged with local populations in villages of Bosnia. Chetniks are known to have killed and slaughtered and raped many thousands of man, boys and woman during Second WW in Bosnia and parts of Kosova.

Peggy in 21st century Europe and Australia, (I am sure), killing, raping and pillaging civilians is not good! You need to understand Peggy that ordinary people would not be proud of such actions.

When Bosnian/Kosovar people call Serb nationalists “chetniks”, they relate that with chetniks’ behaviour during the second WW.

BTW When you first appeared on this site you always implied that you were not a Serb, but just someone who was fed with everything!! Just as you imply today that you are a “she” and not a “he”

I’ll shut up!!Thanks for the insult! But I thought is a good idea to lecture you a little on certain things.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

And from your comment, I can see why you'd support ultra-nationalist ignorant racist intolerant bigots in the 1990's.
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Anyone who dares to speak the truth about Muslims (majority not minority as you claim) is considered ultra-nationalist, extremist, nationalist etc. etc. according to you.
No, these people are realists. They might need to deliver their message in a different way but the message should stay the same.
The nut jobs, as you call them are representative of many Muslims. Where do they get their support from? Just look at the Muslims on this site for an example. Plenty of evidence of how they think.
You are the extremists because you support them. Your support for Islam is dangerous.
So much evidence of chaos in Europe and you still say only the minority are like that. How many have turned up to protests carrying grotesque signs of beheading anyone who insults Islam? How many have carried signs saying Islam will dominate? Only a few? Give me a break.

You will not shut us up by calling us extremists or racists. We know we are realists.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"BTW why do you use a western (which you so despise) female name?
Through your name you imply to be a “she”. I remember in the past you use to claim you are not Serbian either --__-- "
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I have already settled this with another Albanian a little while ago. I have never claimed not to be Serbian. You can produce some evidence of this or shut up. How many times are you people going to accuse me of saying that I am not Serbian?
Really? Is this all you have?
Now stop with this stupidity and argue your point with facts and not lies.
Just to make things even more clear I have already said on many occasions that I don't find it insulting you people calling me a Chetnik either so if you are thinking of that, you can forget it.

Roger7

pre 10 godina

The disgusting history of Muslim's barbaric brutality of chopping off heads of human beings ...

the Skull Tower (Cela Kula) in Nis, Serbia built in 1809 by the Turks holds human skulls.

SCP UK

pre 10 godina

In principle the EDL is a good movement, a movement of people who are sick and tired of seeing Islam tolerated and granted privileges in a Christian country that they have no respect for. The EDL needs to work on their image though, more professionalism is needed.

The UK foreign policy has to change without doubt, neo-colonialism definately breeds hate so a change needs to be pushed by the English. This doesn't excuse Islam though, there is also no doubt that Islam is not compatible with European Christian culture, Islamic traditions cannot co-exist harmoniously, burkhas just as an example should not be tolerated, but it is and this is a failure of the liberal multiculturalist agenda which has failed. Even without NATO provocations Islam has proved itself historically as an aggressor, the Serbs being among the people most justified to make this claim. In the face of the expansionist Islamic Ottoman Empire right though to the 90s where NATO supported these Islamists against Orthodox Christian Serbs fighting Islamic extremism.

Islam is expansionist and it thrives especially when allowed to, many Muslims and non-Muslim supporters of liberal multiculturalism often preach how Islam is a religion of peace, is it? "Fight those of the Unbelievers who live near to you and show them how harsh you can be" Surah 9.123 in the Koran. Content like this is the exact reason why Muslims can be driven to such barbaric acts, its time people started asking serious questions about Islam.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

payback's a bitch. The British Empire at it's peak conquered and enslaved half the world and massacred millions. People today are still suffering from past British practices-just ask the Australian Aboriginals. Croats will never ever forget or forgive the British for allowing the Partizans to massacre mainly Croats,Slovenes & Bosniaks on Blieburg field where 100,000 perished in 1945. The Muslims with their breeding program will be a majority in Britain within 20-30 years.

femi

pre 10 godina

Albanian @ Peggy
“You live with hate inside your heart” You are right Albanian.How can you people live with such hate?! How do you treat people around you every day?!

Can you think for a moment about the people of Srebrenica? Their ordeal lasted for days. Some Muslim man and boys had to wait up to 6 hours in packed buses for their turn to com to get executed.

Peggy can you empathise with these victims? Or you lack such ability. As a Serb extremist that you demonstrate to be, you have no right to speak about the crimes that happen elsewhere before you acknowledged your own crimes.

BTW why do you use a western (which you so despise) female name?
Through your name you imply to be a “she”. I remember in the past you use to claim you are not Serbian either --__--

This act of barbarism committed in London shows how stupid this extremist ideology is and can be but Ian_uk is right when bravely challenges any form of extremism regardless of where it comes from.

Down with Fascism and extremism

adrian kola

pre 10 godina

It’s actually quite shocking that some people are trying to draw parallels between what happened in Woolwich on Wednesday and what happened in Kosovo and the Balkans in the 90s. That the English supported the wrong side etc etc. It just goes to show the extent of hatred and violence still harboured by many many people who visit this site.
These two idiots who committed this despicable and barbaric crime in broad daylight are no different to the likes of Breivik and other nutheads, who are disillusioned with the world and have always led chaotic and failed lives.
It’s just shocking that some people who visit this site actually see the world more or less in the same light as them.

Arn.sweden.

pre 10 godina

To - I Quote -

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Down with Fascism!!!
(Ian, UK, 24 May 2013 00:36)44

Comment -

We have a saying in Sweden -

"All Others only think about Themselves,
it is Only I who thinks about Myself" !.

Arn.Sweden.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

The fact that you mentioned Albanians in this article shows us all that you cannot stand us. You live with hate inside your heart, yet you cannot do anything about it. Kosova is long gone lol, Vojvodina is next that's for sure.

The fact that you, Nikolle and all other kalbs come here day in and day out and spew serb-hate shows that you cant stand us. Have you forgot that this is a serb site?What about Vojvodina?Vojvodine isn´t going anywhere dont u know that 75%of the population is serb?I live in Pancevo and I can tell you noone wants to separate Vojvodina from Serbia, not romanians, not hungarians and certainly not the MAJORITY i.e the serbs. Keep dreaming.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

Peggy

One would expect Ian to support his fellow muslims,after all he lives in a city that boasts 30 per cent of its population as muslim ,110 mosques and a number of faith schools.I will give it another 30 years for muslims to take over in uk.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

To Ian and Andy UK

At least the EDL have the guts to stand up and be counted against the Islamists, that idiot Cameron could only come up with this stupid statement, telling the soldiers to conceal their uniforms, to hide from the Muslims in effect in our own country. To hell with that.

The Serbs are right and we in the UK supported the wrong side in the 90's.

Serbian people, not all the English support you enemies or are against you.
(An English Patriot, 24 May 2013 09:49)

There are "Islamists", then there are everyday Muslims. The EDL attacked the wrong people Muslims because they're stupid. If anything, the EDL have made social tensions worse, but that is obviously their intension. The EDL are ignorant racist intolerant uneducated bigots and are therefore un-English!

And from your comment, I can see why you'd support ultra-nationalist ignorant racist intolerant bigots in the 1990's.

Your last sentence is stupid too. English people are in no way shape or form "against" Serbs or the "enemies" of Serbs.

So sad, Too bad

pre 10 godina

This is what happens when the western governments support Islamic terrorists like in Kosovo and Syria. If u sleep with dogs, u wake up with flees

An English Patriot

pre 10 godina

To Ian and Andy UK

At least the EDL have the guts to stand up and be counted against the Islamists, that idiot Cameron could only come up with this stupid statement, telling the soldiers to conceal their uniforms, to hide from the Muslims in effect in our own country. To hell with that.

The Serbs are right and we in the UK supported the wrong side in the 90's.

Serbian people, not all the English support you enemies or are against you.

Arn.sweden.

pre 10 godina

Categories of Islamic Murder !.

Read and remember for the Future !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Arn.Sweden.

Just for Iformation

pre 10 godina

"Just because most don't run around hacking people doesn't mean that most don't approve.

Then again you must be defending your brothers just like the rest of the Muslim Albanian community."
(Peggy, 23 May 2013 23:22)

And you don't only approve, but even defend Serbian war criminals who not only slaughtered one person, but 100s as heroes, just like many (fortunately not the whole rest, thanks god) of your Serbian (expat) community. Yuk.

Albanian

pre 10 godina

@PEGGY

The fact that you mentioned Albanians in this article shows us all that you cannot stand us. You live with hate inside your heart, yet you cannot do anything about it. Kosova is long gone lol, Vojvodina is next that's for sure. Remember we Albanians are Muslims,Catholics, and Orthodox as well. Were unlike Serbs we do not discriminate one another for different religious belief. We all know what Serbs did in Balkans, the amount of blood they caused, and for that Serbs continue to shrink geographically to a point where they will never once again be able to repeat it. KOSOVA IS BOTHERING YOU WE KNOW IT
I feel Sorry for you Peggy.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

a truly despicable act. sickening. RIP to the victim. my heart goes out to his family.

why did comments here descend into Christian v Muslim? as far as I'm concerned you're all as bad as each other

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Peggy: I'm defending innocent people (who happen to be Muslim) who have been victims of ignorant right wing fascists extremists, which I don't see you criticising; but knowing your views, I don't find that surprising.

Just because I don't support the EDL doesn't mean I support Muslims as a whole. I'll support Muslims worthy of my support and I'll oppose those like these murders, however that applies to people of all religions. I don't support Hitler or the Nazis either, does that make me a Muslim defender as well?

And as to "where these nut jobs get their support from"... they don't have any support. Muslims groups across the world have condemned this brutal murder. Even in Australia

If I'm a Muslim Albanian, then you're a Ugandan Sikh!

This is why I'll back innocent Muslims from hardcore right wing fascists:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Down with Fascism!!!

Peggy

pre 10 godina

As for the EDL, they're just a bunch of right wing idiots. They're exploiting this horrible murder to attack people who aren't responsible for what has happened. The leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson isn't even English. He is Irish!

RIP Lee Rigby!
(Ian, UK, 23 May 2013 20:42)
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I see, still defending the Muslims.
Just because most don't run around hacking people doesn't mean that most don't approve.
Where do you think these nut jobs get their support from?

Then again you must be defending your brothers just like the rest of the Muslim Albanian community.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

Renko, don't get me wrong. the constant pandering to the ever increasing demands of the Islamic community in the UK drives me up the wall. Trouble with the EDL is that they always turn up pissed and throwing stuff.Most ethnic communities have settled fine in the UK - Sikhs, Poles, Hindus to name a few. The Muslims refuse to integrate, mainly as their religious text says that non Muslims don't deserve to live and its hammered in from birth.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

The reaction of public by-standers was weird and unexpected. A horrible brutal crime has been committed by insane religious nutters and the nearby public didn't run. In this sort of incident you'd expect people to run for their lives and to hide, but they didn't. Some people even went up to the murderers and started arguing with them. While one of the nutters was holding used knives in bloody hands and ranting into a camera, a lady walked by right beside him with a baby in pram and she didn't bat an eyelid, she just carried on as normal. Bizarre!

As for the EDL, they're just a bunch of right wing idiots. They're exploiting this horrible murder to attack people who aren't responsible for what has happened. The leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson isn't even English. He is Irish!

RIP Lee Rigby!

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

What I am saying is the actions of jihadists in Syria supported by uk authorities has backfirsd on them for their killings of muslims in afganistan.

Bob

pre 10 godina

Syria was about people who were fed up with a government - it was not about jihadists until that government started shooting ordinary demonstrators and opportunists moved in. If it is liberal to want to get rid of the power-pig Assad - then I am proud to b a liberal.

Also, the murderers in London are stupid. There is no heaven for murderers or suicides, despite the misguided teachings of Islamists. There is no God who could want these people. Islamists mostly fight like cowards, not as heros. Further, their interference with people's lives wlll not achieve the ends they want.

Renko

pre 10 godina

I would like to offer a slightly different view to my compatriot.
I could imagine that Serbs of previous centuries understand perfectly what the white working class of English cities are going through: the slow erosion of their world, more and more radical Islamist people moving in, larger families than whites, even food in line with Muslim wishes in schools.
I don't remember that the EDL ever demanded that white women stay at home, that soldiers be beheaded on the streets, that trains and buses be bombed with mass slaughter of women and children.
The EDL supporters are simply a very limited few who have had enough with the Islamisation.
Now if an independent person would compare the EDL programme, and the programme of the disgusting Salafist bunch spreading across the world, HOW ON EARTH can it be that the EDL are the fascists?
Please don't blame them for protesting against the coming Dhimmi status.

cry me a river

pre 10 godina

"We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

And you and other like minded terrorists shall get what's coming to you.

This js home-grown jihadist terrorism,the same kind the uk pseudo-liberals and good-doers are supporting in Syria.The chickens have come home to roost and deservedly so.No government has defence against domestic jihadists-specially the uk which has become an islamic s...hole.
Gotsefromohrid,

Are you saying the soldier who was decaputated deserved it because the UK opposes a dictator?

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

An awful event committed by minds twisted by religion.Unfortunately the EDL are a simple bunch of right wing idiots playing into the hands of the sick idiots who did this.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

This js home-grown jihadist terrorism,the same kind the uk pseudo-liberals and good-doers are supporting in Syria.The chickens have come home to roost and deservedly so.No government has defence against domestic jihadists-specially the uk which has become an islamic s...hole.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

This js home-grown jihadist terrorism,the same kind the uk pseudo-liberals and good-doers are supporting in Syria.The chickens have come home to roost and deservedly so.No government has defence against domestic jihadists-specially the uk which has become an islamic s...hole.

Renko

pre 10 godina

I would like to offer a slightly different view to my compatriot.
I could imagine that Serbs of previous centuries understand perfectly what the white working class of English cities are going through: the slow erosion of their world, more and more radical Islamist people moving in, larger families than whites, even food in line with Muslim wishes in schools.
I don't remember that the EDL ever demanded that white women stay at home, that soldiers be beheaded on the streets, that trains and buses be bombed with mass slaughter of women and children.
The EDL supporters are simply a very limited few who have had enough with the Islamisation.
Now if an independent person would compare the EDL programme, and the programme of the disgusting Salafist bunch spreading across the world, HOW ON EARTH can it be that the EDL are the fascists?
Please don't blame them for protesting against the coming Dhimmi status.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

Renko, don't get me wrong. the constant pandering to the ever increasing demands of the Islamic community in the UK drives me up the wall. Trouble with the EDL is that they always turn up pissed and throwing stuff.Most ethnic communities have settled fine in the UK - Sikhs, Poles, Hindus to name a few. The Muslims refuse to integrate, mainly as their religious text says that non Muslims don't deserve to live and its hammered in from birth.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

What I am saying is the actions of jihadists in Syria supported by uk authorities has backfirsd on them for their killings of muslims in afganistan.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

As for the EDL, they're just a bunch of right wing idiots. They're exploiting this horrible murder to attack people who aren't responsible for what has happened. The leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson isn't even English. He is Irish!

RIP Lee Rigby!
(Ian, UK, 23 May 2013 20:42)
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I see, still defending the Muslims.
Just because most don't run around hacking people doesn't mean that most don't approve.
Where do you think these nut jobs get their support from?

Then again you must be defending your brothers just like the rest of the Muslim Albanian community.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

An awful event committed by minds twisted by religion.Unfortunately the EDL are a simple bunch of right wing idiots playing into the hands of the sick idiots who did this.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

The reaction of public by-standers was weird and unexpected. A horrible brutal crime has been committed by insane religious nutters and the nearby public didn't run. In this sort of incident you'd expect people to run for their lives and to hide, but they didn't. Some people even went up to the murderers and started arguing with them. While one of the nutters was holding used knives in bloody hands and ranting into a camera, a lady walked by right beside him with a baby in pram and she didn't bat an eyelid, she just carried on as normal. Bizarre!

As for the EDL, they're just a bunch of right wing idiots. They're exploiting this horrible murder to attack people who aren't responsible for what has happened. The leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson isn't even English. He is Irish!

RIP Lee Rigby!

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Peggy: I'm defending innocent people (who happen to be Muslim) who have been victims of ignorant right wing fascists extremists, which I don't see you criticising; but knowing your views, I don't find that surprising.

Just because I don't support the EDL doesn't mean I support Muslims as a whole. I'll support Muslims worthy of my support and I'll oppose those like these murders, however that applies to people of all religions. I don't support Hitler or the Nazis either, does that make me a Muslim defender as well?

And as to "where these nut jobs get their support from"... they don't have any support. Muslims groups across the world have condemned this brutal murder. Even in Australia

If I'm a Muslim Albanian, then you're a Ugandan Sikh!

This is why I'll back innocent Muslims from hardcore right wing fascists:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Down with Fascism!!!

An English Patriot

pre 10 godina

To Ian and Andy UK

At least the EDL have the guts to stand up and be counted against the Islamists, that idiot Cameron could only come up with this stupid statement, telling the soldiers to conceal their uniforms, to hide from the Muslims in effect in our own country. To hell with that.

The Serbs are right and we in the UK supported the wrong side in the 90's.

Serbian people, not all the English support you enemies or are against you.

femi

pre 10 godina

Albanian @ Peggy
“You live with hate inside your heart” You are right Albanian.How can you people live with such hate?! How do you treat people around you every day?!

Can you think for a moment about the people of Srebrenica? Their ordeal lasted for days. Some Muslim man and boys had to wait up to 6 hours in packed buses for their turn to com to get executed.

Peggy can you empathise with these victims? Or you lack such ability. As a Serb extremist that you demonstrate to be, you have no right to speak about the crimes that happen elsewhere before you acknowledged your own crimes.

BTW why do you use a western (which you so despise) female name?
Through your name you imply to be a “she”. I remember in the past you use to claim you are not Serbian either --__--

This act of barbarism committed in London shows how stupid this extremist ideology is and can be but Ian_uk is right when bravely challenges any form of extremism regardless of where it comes from.

Down with Fascism and extremism

Albanian

pre 10 godina

@PEGGY

The fact that you mentioned Albanians in this article shows us all that you cannot stand us. You live with hate inside your heart, yet you cannot do anything about it. Kosova is long gone lol, Vojvodina is next that's for sure. Remember we Albanians are Muslims,Catholics, and Orthodox as well. Were unlike Serbs we do not discriminate one another for different religious belief. We all know what Serbs did in Balkans, the amount of blood they caused, and for that Serbs continue to shrink geographically to a point where they will never once again be able to repeat it. KOSOVA IS BOTHERING YOU WE KNOW IT
I feel Sorry for you Peggy.

femi

pre 10 godina

Peggy is proud of Chetniks!

Chetniks supposed to fight the German army so they claimed. But the British stopped arming Chetniks and started to arm partisans of Tito instead because chetinks hardly ever engaged with German soldiers. Instead Chentniks engaged with local populations in villages of Bosnia. Chetniks are known to have killed and slaughtered and raped many thousands of man, boys and woman during Second WW in Bosnia and parts of Kosova.

Peggy in 21st century Europe and Australia, (I am sure), killing, raping and pillaging civilians is not good! You need to understand Peggy that ordinary people would not be proud of such actions.

When Bosnian/Kosovar people call Serb nationalists “chetniks”, they relate that with chetniks’ behaviour during the second WW.

BTW When you first appeared on this site you always implied that you were not a Serb, but just someone who was fed with everything!! Just as you imply today that you are a “she” and not a “he”

I’ll shut up!!Thanks for the insult! But I thought is a good idea to lecture you a little on certain things.

Arn.sweden.

pre 10 godina

Categories of Islamic Murder !.

Read and remember for the Future !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.sweden.

pre 10 godina

To - I Quote -

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Down with Fascism!!!
(Ian, UK, 24 May 2013 00:36)44

Comment -

We have a saying in Sweden -

"All Others only think about Themselves,
it is Only I who thinks about Myself" !.

Arn.Sweden.

femi

pre 10 godina

I see, B92 has carved up and sliced up my telling off to Peggy in the previous post. Never mind!


Peggy The way you express yourself (full of hate) is almost similar to these Muslims that you refer to and you yourself condemn them.

I see no difference between you and them in terms of how you relate to others that is not similar to you or does not share your views.

cry me a river

pre 10 godina

"We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

And you and other like minded terrorists shall get what's coming to you.

This js home-grown jihadist terrorism,the same kind the uk pseudo-liberals and good-doers are supporting in Syria.The chickens have come home to roost and deservedly so.No government has defence against domestic jihadists-specially the uk which has become an islamic s...hole.
Gotsefromohrid,

Are you saying the soldier who was decaputated deserved it because the UK opposes a dictator?

Bob

pre 10 godina

Syria was about people who were fed up with a government - it was not about jihadists until that government started shooting ordinary demonstrators and opportunists moved in. If it is liberal to want to get rid of the power-pig Assad - then I am proud to b a liberal.

Also, the murderers in London are stupid. There is no heaven for murderers or suicides, despite the misguided teachings of Islamists. There is no God who could want these people. Islamists mostly fight like cowards, not as heros. Further, their interference with people's lives wlll not achieve the ends they want.

So sad, Too bad

pre 10 godina

This is what happens when the western governments support Islamic terrorists like in Kosovo and Syria. If u sleep with dogs, u wake up with flees

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

a truly despicable act. sickening. RIP to the victim. my heart goes out to his family.

why did comments here descend into Christian v Muslim? as far as I'm concerned you're all as bad as each other

Just for Iformation

pre 10 godina

"Just because most don't run around hacking people doesn't mean that most don't approve.

Then again you must be defending your brothers just like the rest of the Muslim Albanian community."
(Peggy, 23 May 2013 23:22)

And you don't only approve, but even defend Serbian war criminals who not only slaughtered one person, but 100s as heroes, just like many (fortunately not the whole rest, thanks god) of your Serbian (expat) community. Yuk.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

To Ian and Andy UK

At least the EDL have the guts to stand up and be counted against the Islamists, that idiot Cameron could only come up with this stupid statement, telling the soldiers to conceal their uniforms, to hide from the Muslims in effect in our own country. To hell with that.

The Serbs are right and we in the UK supported the wrong side in the 90's.

Serbian people, not all the English support you enemies or are against you.
(An English Patriot, 24 May 2013 09:49)

There are "Islamists", then there are everyday Muslims. The EDL attacked the wrong people Muslims because they're stupid. If anything, the EDL have made social tensions worse, but that is obviously their intension. The EDL are ignorant racist intolerant uneducated bigots and are therefore un-English!

And from your comment, I can see why you'd support ultra-nationalist ignorant racist intolerant bigots in the 1990's.

Your last sentence is stupid too. English people are in no way shape or form "against" Serbs or the "enemies" of Serbs.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

Peggy

One would expect Ian to support his fellow muslims,after all he lives in a city that boasts 30 per cent of its population as muslim ,110 mosques and a number of faith schools.I will give it another 30 years for muslims to take over in uk.

adrian kola

pre 10 godina

It’s actually quite shocking that some people are trying to draw parallels between what happened in Woolwich on Wednesday and what happened in Kosovo and the Balkans in the 90s. That the English supported the wrong side etc etc. It just goes to show the extent of hatred and violence still harboured by many many people who visit this site.
These two idiots who committed this despicable and barbaric crime in broad daylight are no different to the likes of Breivik and other nutheads, who are disillusioned with the world and have always led chaotic and failed lives.
It’s just shocking that some people who visit this site actually see the world more or less in the same light as them.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

And from your comment, I can see why you'd support ultra-nationalist ignorant racist intolerant bigots in the 1990's.
============================
Anyone who dares to speak the truth about Muslims (majority not minority as you claim) is considered ultra-nationalist, extremist, nationalist etc. etc. according to you.
No, these people are realists. They might need to deliver their message in a different way but the message should stay the same.
The nut jobs, as you call them are representative of many Muslims. Where do they get their support from? Just look at the Muslims on this site for an example. Plenty of evidence of how they think.
You are the extremists because you support them. Your support for Islam is dangerous.
So much evidence of chaos in Europe and you still say only the minority are like that. How many have turned up to protests carrying grotesque signs of beheading anyone who insults Islam? How many have carried signs saying Islam will dominate? Only a few? Give me a break.

You will not shut us up by calling us extremists or racists. We know we are realists.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

The fact that you mentioned Albanians in this article shows us all that you cannot stand us. You live with hate inside your heart, yet you cannot do anything about it. Kosova is long gone lol, Vojvodina is next that's for sure.

The fact that you, Nikolle and all other kalbs come here day in and day out and spew serb-hate shows that you cant stand us. Have you forgot that this is a serb site?What about Vojvodina?Vojvodine isn´t going anywhere dont u know that 75%of the population is serb?I live in Pancevo and I can tell you noone wants to separate Vojvodina from Serbia, not romanians, not hungarians and certainly not the MAJORITY i.e the serbs. Keep dreaming.

Renko

pre 10 godina

"Anyone who dares to speak the truth about Muslims (majority not minority as you claim) is considered ultra-nationalist, extremist, nationalist etc. etc. according to you."

Peggy is absolutely right. Most British people are too scared of having the "fascist finger" pointed at them if they speak openly. I suspect that Serbs and Russians are less intimidated and more courageous.

Roger7

pre 10 godina

The disgusting history of Muslim's barbaric brutality of chopping off heads of human beings ...

the Skull Tower (Cela Kula) in Nis, Serbia built in 1809 by the Turks holds human skulls.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Peggy is proud of Chetniks!

Chetniks supposed to fight the German army so they claimed. But the British stopped arming Chetniks and started to arm partisans of Tito instead because chetinks hardly ever engaged with German soldiers
==========================

That's because of communist infiltrators who were giving the British wrong intelligence.

Now proof of that is that Chetniks march along with allied soldiers here in Australia every year on Anzac day not partizans not ustasha and not Albanians.
So smart femi, tell us why then should I be ashamed. Have the Australians got it wrong and the Nazi supporters be allowed to march here?

This is proof that chetniks were the good guys according to the west. Talk to Australian government and tell them what you wrote here and see which one of us is right. If chetniks were the bad guys I am sure they would not be allowed to march.

Why don't you educate yourself instead of spreading cr@p on here?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

femi, again I ask you to produce some evidence that when I first appeared here I claimed I was not a Serb or shut the hell up.
Seriously, I am fed up with this rubbish. I have already replied to you here that I never said that and asked you to produce some evidence of it if you insist on claiming it. So prove it or shut up. You are unbelievable. Keep repeating the same cr@p over and over even though you have not one shred of evidence.

SCP UK

pre 10 godina

In principle the EDL is a good movement, a movement of people who are sick and tired of seeing Islam tolerated and granted privileges in a Christian country that they have no respect for. The EDL needs to work on their image though, more professionalism is needed.

The UK foreign policy has to change without doubt, neo-colonialism definately breeds hate so a change needs to be pushed by the English. This doesn't excuse Islam though, there is also no doubt that Islam is not compatible with European Christian culture, Islamic traditions cannot co-exist harmoniously, burkhas just as an example should not be tolerated, but it is and this is a failure of the liberal multiculturalist agenda which has failed. Even without NATO provocations Islam has proved itself historically as an aggressor, the Serbs being among the people most justified to make this claim. In the face of the expansionist Islamic Ottoman Empire right though to the 90s where NATO supported these Islamists against Orthodox Christian Serbs fighting Islamic extremism.

Islam is expansionist and it thrives especially when allowed to, many Muslims and non-Muslim supporters of liberal multiculturalism often preach how Islam is a religion of peace, is it? "Fight those of the Unbelievers who live near to you and show them how harsh you can be" Surah 9.123 in the Koran. Content like this is the exact reason why Muslims can be driven to such barbaric acts, its time people started asking serious questions about Islam.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

payback's a bitch. The British Empire at it's peak conquered and enslaved half the world and massacred millions. People today are still suffering from past British practices-just ask the Australian Aboriginals. Croats will never ever forget or forgive the British for allowing the Partizans to massacre mainly Croats,Slovenes & Bosniaks on Blieburg field where 100,000 perished in 1945. The Muslims with their breeding program will be a majority in Britain within 20-30 years.

Amer

pre 10 godina

"You will not shut us up by calling us extremists or racists. We know we are realists.
(Peggy, 24 May 2013 16:05) "

That may be your view of yourselves, but even more-realistic types know that totally subjugating, not to mention "removing" members of a different group from society just doesn't work. Love one another, or die, says the poet. Christian and Jewish religious leaders are speaking in mosques today in London (try reading the Guardian rather than the Telegraph for a change) saying something similar. This is a time for putting out fires, not for splashing gasoline around.

The Balkans

pre 10 godina

(femi, 24 May 2013 17:49)

It's utter hypocrisy, thank you.

People like Peggers over there demonize all Croats for instance for the things their Fascists did back in WW2, yet refuse to acknowledge the terrible things which Serb soldiers and leaders and whoever else did since then.

Whatever. Hate - it's blinding.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"BTW why do you use a western (which you so despise) female name?
Through your name you imply to be a “she”. I remember in the past you use to claim you are not Serbian either --__-- "
================================

I have already settled this with another Albanian a little while ago. I have never claimed not to be Serbian. You can produce some evidence of this or shut up. How many times are you people going to accuse me of saying that I am not Serbian?
Really? Is this all you have?
Now stop with this stupidity and argue your point with facts and not lies.
Just to make things even more clear I have already said on many occasions that I don't find it insulting you people calling me a Chetnik either so if you are thinking of that, you can forget it.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

I see no difference between you and them in terms of how you relate to others that is not similar to you or does not share your views.
(femi, 24 May 2013 17:49)
================================
Many people don't share my views about many things but I don't get angry about it.
What I am angry about is people who come on here and still find a way to condemn the Serbs for speaking the truth, which in reality means that they are supporting the Muslims.
I am not against all Muslims, but I am a realist enough to know that it's not only a small minority who harbour resentment and hate towards us. Proof is everywhere. So yes, I hate the haters.
Something wrong with that?
I never said all Muslims, only many if not majority.

Again, trying to shut me up with name calling is not working. Also, I do not advocate any terrorist activity so don't put me in the same basket.

All I am saying is deport all who enable the nut jobs and don't bring any more in.
If you think this is extreme instead of smart then keep thinking it.

femi

pre 10 godina

Peggy
“Talk to Australian government about chentinks?”
Really? Why that far… Why not talk to Bosnian government, Bosnian families, Kosovar families and villages bordering Serbia. There is where, you should seek the truth. You seek the truth about the Balkans and a particular radical party in Australia. It is similar for someone who studies human evolution to say “Let’s go to the Moon to look for human fossils there”. You are actually unbelievable the way you think and function.

Peggy
“So yes, I hate the haters. Something wrong with that?”

No it is not! But I don’t think you do!! Srebrenica, Srebrenica, Srebrenica. Remember the 8000 Man and boys executed by haters. Not once I have seen you hating these haters, if not praised. You only hate those who don’t agree and do not share your views just like these Muslim radicals in mosques.

Peggy
“Also, I do not advocate any terrorist activity”.
After reading a lot of you stuff the hate you spill over here I have come to a conclusion that you are similar to the imams in mosques who encourage terrorist activity and yet they themselves would never do it because they don’t want to go to prison. Simply put it they don’t have balls, and neither do you! Or maybe you actually do --__--

Peggy

pre 10 godina

femi, you are unbelievable. You tried to pin on Chetniks the fact that they were the bad guys and when I give you proof of how they were with the allies you dismiss it and tell me to look for proof in Bosnia. The allies are the Australians who allow them to march with them on that very special occasion. That proves something but of course you dismiss it because it doesn't fit your distortion of truth.

Never mind that for now. I have asked you more than once to give us evidence where I claimed that I was not Serbian. You conveniently leave it alone now that you know you cannot.
So either take back what you said or give us that proof.

If you can't then apologise for lying.
I am not letting you off the hook. So how about it. Either apologise to me or prove me wrong.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Peggy, you've been reading too much of Pamela Geller
(Nikolle, 25 May 2013 14:09)
=========================

She's right. It doesn't matter where the truth comes from as long as it's the truth and Pamela speaks it.

cry me a river

pre 10 godina

"We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

And you and other like minded terrorists shall get what's coming to you.

This js home-grown jihadist terrorism,the same kind the uk pseudo-liberals and good-doers are supporting in Syria.The chickens have come home to roost and deservedly so.No government has defence against domestic jihadists-specially the uk which has become an islamic s...hole.
Gotsefromohrid,

Are you saying the soldier who was decaputated deserved it because the UK opposes a dictator?

Bob

pre 10 godina

Syria was about people who were fed up with a government - it was not about jihadists until that government started shooting ordinary demonstrators and opportunists moved in. If it is liberal to want to get rid of the power-pig Assad - then I am proud to b a liberal.

Also, the murderers in London are stupid. There is no heaven for murderers or suicides, despite the misguided teachings of Islamists. There is no God who could want these people. Islamists mostly fight like cowards, not as heros. Further, their interference with people's lives wlll not achieve the ends they want.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

An awful event committed by minds twisted by religion.Unfortunately the EDL are a simple bunch of right wing idiots playing into the hands of the sick idiots who did this.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

The reaction of public by-standers was weird and unexpected. A horrible brutal crime has been committed by insane religious nutters and the nearby public didn't run. In this sort of incident you'd expect people to run for their lives and to hide, but they didn't. Some people even went up to the murderers and started arguing with them. While one of the nutters was holding used knives in bloody hands and ranting into a camera, a lady walked by right beside him with a baby in pram and she didn't bat an eyelid, she just carried on as normal. Bizarre!

As for the EDL, they're just a bunch of right wing idiots. They're exploiting this horrible murder to attack people who aren't responsible for what has happened. The leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson isn't even English. He is Irish!

RIP Lee Rigby!

Peggy

pre 10 godina

As for the EDL, they're just a bunch of right wing idiots. They're exploiting this horrible murder to attack people who aren't responsible for what has happened. The leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson isn't even English. He is Irish!

RIP Lee Rigby!
(Ian, UK, 23 May 2013 20:42)
=========================

I see, still defending the Muslims.
Just because most don't run around hacking people doesn't mean that most don't approve.
Where do you think these nut jobs get their support from?

Then again you must be defending your brothers just like the rest of the Muslim Albanian community.

Renko

pre 10 godina

I would like to offer a slightly different view to my compatriot.
I could imagine that Serbs of previous centuries understand perfectly what the white working class of English cities are going through: the slow erosion of their world, more and more radical Islamist people moving in, larger families than whites, even food in line with Muslim wishes in schools.
I don't remember that the EDL ever demanded that white women stay at home, that soldiers be beheaded on the streets, that trains and buses be bombed with mass slaughter of women and children.
The EDL supporters are simply a very limited few who have had enough with the Islamisation.
Now if an independent person would compare the EDL programme, and the programme of the disgusting Salafist bunch spreading across the world, HOW ON EARTH can it be that the EDL are the fascists?
Please don't blame them for protesting against the coming Dhimmi status.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

This js home-grown jihadist terrorism,the same kind the uk pseudo-liberals and good-doers are supporting in Syria.The chickens have come home to roost and deservedly so.No government has defence against domestic jihadists-specially the uk which has become an islamic s...hole.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Peggy: I'm defending innocent people (who happen to be Muslim) who have been victims of ignorant right wing fascists extremists, which I don't see you criticising; but knowing your views, I don't find that surprising.

Just because I don't support the EDL doesn't mean I support Muslims as a whole. I'll support Muslims worthy of my support and I'll oppose those like these murders, however that applies to people of all religions. I don't support Hitler or the Nazis either, does that make me a Muslim defender as well?

And as to "where these nut jobs get their support from"... they don't have any support. Muslims groups across the world have condemned this brutal murder. Even in Australia

If I'm a Muslim Albanian, then you're a Ugandan Sikh!

This is why I'll back innocent Muslims from hardcore right wing fascists:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Down with Fascism!!!

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

payback's a bitch. The British Empire at it's peak conquered and enslaved half the world and massacred millions. People today are still suffering from past British practices-just ask the Australian Aboriginals. Croats will never ever forget or forgive the British for allowing the Partizans to massacre mainly Croats,Slovenes & Bosniaks on Blieburg field where 100,000 perished in 1945. The Muslims with their breeding program will be a majority in Britain within 20-30 years.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

What I am saying is the actions of jihadists in Syria supported by uk authorities has backfirsd on them for their killings of muslims in afganistan.

Albanian

pre 10 godina

@PEGGY

The fact that you mentioned Albanians in this article shows us all that you cannot stand us. You live with hate inside your heart, yet you cannot do anything about it. Kosova is long gone lol, Vojvodina is next that's for sure. Remember we Albanians are Muslims,Catholics, and Orthodox as well. Were unlike Serbs we do not discriminate one another for different religious belief. We all know what Serbs did in Balkans, the amount of blood they caused, and for that Serbs continue to shrink geographically to a point where they will never once again be able to repeat it. KOSOVA IS BOTHERING YOU WE KNOW IT
I feel Sorry for you Peggy.

Just for Iformation

pre 10 godina

"Just because most don't run around hacking people doesn't mean that most don't approve.

Then again you must be defending your brothers just like the rest of the Muslim Albanian community."
(Peggy, 23 May 2013 23:22)

And you don't only approve, but even defend Serbian war criminals who not only slaughtered one person, but 100s as heroes, just like many (fortunately not the whole rest, thanks god) of your Serbian (expat) community. Yuk.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

To Ian and Andy UK

At least the EDL have the guts to stand up and be counted against the Islamists, that idiot Cameron could only come up with this stupid statement, telling the soldiers to conceal their uniforms, to hide from the Muslims in effect in our own country. To hell with that.

The Serbs are right and we in the UK supported the wrong side in the 90's.

Serbian people, not all the English support you enemies or are against you.
(An English Patriot, 24 May 2013 09:49)

There are "Islamists", then there are everyday Muslims. The EDL attacked the wrong people Muslims because they're stupid. If anything, the EDL have made social tensions worse, but that is obviously their intension. The EDL are ignorant racist intolerant uneducated bigots and are therefore un-English!

And from your comment, I can see why you'd support ultra-nationalist ignorant racist intolerant bigots in the 1990's.

Your last sentence is stupid too. English people are in no way shape or form "against" Serbs or the "enemies" of Serbs.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

The fact that you mentioned Albanians in this article shows us all that you cannot stand us. You live with hate inside your heart, yet you cannot do anything about it. Kosova is long gone lol, Vojvodina is next that's for sure.

The fact that you, Nikolle and all other kalbs come here day in and day out and spew serb-hate shows that you cant stand us. Have you forgot that this is a serb site?What about Vojvodina?Vojvodine isn´t going anywhere dont u know that 75%of the population is serb?I live in Pancevo and I can tell you noone wants to separate Vojvodina from Serbia, not romanians, not hungarians and certainly not the MAJORITY i.e the serbs. Keep dreaming.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

a truly despicable act. sickening. RIP to the victim. my heart goes out to his family.

why did comments here descend into Christian v Muslim? as far as I'm concerned you're all as bad as each other

An English Patriot

pre 10 godina

To Ian and Andy UK

At least the EDL have the guts to stand up and be counted against the Islamists, that idiot Cameron could only come up with this stupid statement, telling the soldiers to conceal their uniforms, to hide from the Muslims in effect in our own country. To hell with that.

The Serbs are right and we in the UK supported the wrong side in the 90's.

Serbian people, not all the English support you enemies or are against you.

Arn.sweden.

pre 10 godina

Categories of Islamic Murder !.

Read and remember for the Future !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Arn.Sweden.

So sad, Too bad

pre 10 godina

This is what happens when the western governments support Islamic terrorists like in Kosovo and Syria. If u sleep with dogs, u wake up with flees

femi

pre 10 godina

Albanian @ Peggy
“You live with hate inside your heart” You are right Albanian.How can you people live with such hate?! How do you treat people around you every day?!

Can you think for a moment about the people of Srebrenica? Their ordeal lasted for days. Some Muslim man and boys had to wait up to 6 hours in packed buses for their turn to com to get executed.

Peggy can you empathise with these victims? Or you lack such ability. As a Serb extremist that you demonstrate to be, you have no right to speak about the crimes that happen elsewhere before you acknowledged your own crimes.

BTW why do you use a western (which you so despise) female name?
Through your name you imply to be a “she”. I remember in the past you use to claim you are not Serbian either --__--

This act of barbarism committed in London shows how stupid this extremist ideology is and can be but Ian_uk is right when bravely challenges any form of extremism regardless of where it comes from.

Down with Fascism and extremism

SCP UK

pre 10 godina

In principle the EDL is a good movement, a movement of people who are sick and tired of seeing Islam tolerated and granted privileges in a Christian country that they have no respect for. The EDL needs to work on their image though, more professionalism is needed.

The UK foreign policy has to change without doubt, neo-colonialism definately breeds hate so a change needs to be pushed by the English. This doesn't excuse Islam though, there is also no doubt that Islam is not compatible with European Christian culture, Islamic traditions cannot co-exist harmoniously, burkhas just as an example should not be tolerated, but it is and this is a failure of the liberal multiculturalist agenda which has failed. Even without NATO provocations Islam has proved itself historically as an aggressor, the Serbs being among the people most justified to make this claim. In the face of the expansionist Islamic Ottoman Empire right though to the 90s where NATO supported these Islamists against Orthodox Christian Serbs fighting Islamic extremism.

Islam is expansionist and it thrives especially when allowed to, many Muslims and non-Muslim supporters of liberal multiculturalism often preach how Islam is a religion of peace, is it? "Fight those of the Unbelievers who live near to you and show them how harsh you can be" Surah 9.123 in the Koran. Content like this is the exact reason why Muslims can be driven to such barbaric acts, its time people started asking serious questions about Islam.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

Renko, don't get me wrong. the constant pandering to the ever increasing demands of the Islamic community in the UK drives me up the wall. Trouble with the EDL is that they always turn up pissed and throwing stuff.Most ethnic communities have settled fine in the UK - Sikhs, Poles, Hindus to name a few. The Muslims refuse to integrate, mainly as their religious text says that non Muslims don't deserve to live and its hammered in from birth.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 10 godina

Peggy

One would expect Ian to support his fellow muslims,after all he lives in a city that boasts 30 per cent of its population as muslim ,110 mosques and a number of faith schools.I will give it another 30 years for muslims to take over in uk.

Arn.sweden.

pre 10 godina

To - I Quote -

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Down with Fascism!!!
(Ian, UK, 24 May 2013 00:36)44

Comment -

We have a saying in Sweden -

"All Others only think about Themselves,
it is Only I who thinks about Myself" !.

Arn.Sweden.

adrian kola

pre 10 godina

It’s actually quite shocking that some people are trying to draw parallels between what happened in Woolwich on Wednesday and what happened in Kosovo and the Balkans in the 90s. That the English supported the wrong side etc etc. It just goes to show the extent of hatred and violence still harboured by many many people who visit this site.
These two idiots who committed this despicable and barbaric crime in broad daylight are no different to the likes of Breivik and other nutheads, who are disillusioned with the world and have always led chaotic and failed lives.
It’s just shocking that some people who visit this site actually see the world more or less in the same light as them.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"BTW why do you use a western (which you so despise) female name?
Through your name you imply to be a “she”. I remember in the past you use to claim you are not Serbian either --__-- "
================================

I have already settled this with another Albanian a little while ago. I have never claimed not to be Serbian. You can produce some evidence of this or shut up. How many times are you people going to accuse me of saying that I am not Serbian?
Really? Is this all you have?
Now stop with this stupidity and argue your point with facts and not lies.
Just to make things even more clear I have already said on many occasions that I don't find it insulting you people calling me a Chetnik either so if you are thinking of that, you can forget it.

femi

pre 10 godina

Peggy is proud of Chetniks!

Chetniks supposed to fight the German army so they claimed. But the British stopped arming Chetniks and started to arm partisans of Tito instead because chetinks hardly ever engaged with German soldiers. Instead Chentniks engaged with local populations in villages of Bosnia. Chetniks are known to have killed and slaughtered and raped many thousands of man, boys and woman during Second WW in Bosnia and parts of Kosova.

Peggy in 21st century Europe and Australia, (I am sure), killing, raping and pillaging civilians is not good! You need to understand Peggy that ordinary people would not be proud of such actions.

When Bosnian/Kosovar people call Serb nationalists “chetniks”, they relate that with chetniks’ behaviour during the second WW.

BTW When you first appeared on this site you always implied that you were not a Serb, but just someone who was fed with everything!! Just as you imply today that you are a “she” and not a “he”

I’ll shut up!!Thanks for the insult! But I thought is a good idea to lecture you a little on certain things.

femi

pre 10 godina

I see, B92 has carved up and sliced up my telling off to Peggy in the previous post. Never mind!


Peggy The way you express yourself (full of hate) is almost similar to these Muslims that you refer to and you yourself condemn them.

I see no difference between you and them in terms of how you relate to others that is not similar to you or does not share your views.

femi

pre 10 godina

Peggy
“Talk to Australian government about chentinks?”
Really? Why that far… Why not talk to Bosnian government, Bosnian families, Kosovar families and villages bordering Serbia. There is where, you should seek the truth. You seek the truth about the Balkans and a particular radical party in Australia. It is similar for someone who studies human evolution to say “Let’s go to the Moon to look for human fossils there”. You are actually unbelievable the way you think and function.

Peggy
“So yes, I hate the haters. Something wrong with that?”

No it is not! But I don’t think you do!! Srebrenica, Srebrenica, Srebrenica. Remember the 8000 Man and boys executed by haters. Not once I have seen you hating these haters, if not praised. You only hate those who don’t agree and do not share your views just like these Muslim radicals in mosques.

Peggy
“Also, I do not advocate any terrorist activity”.
After reading a lot of you stuff the hate you spill over here I have come to a conclusion that you are similar to the imams in mosques who encourage terrorist activity and yet they themselves would never do it because they don’t want to go to prison. Simply put it they don’t have balls, and neither do you! Or maybe you actually do --__--

Renko

pre 10 godina

"Anyone who dares to speak the truth about Muslims (majority not minority as you claim) is considered ultra-nationalist, extremist, nationalist etc. etc. according to you."

Peggy is absolutely right. Most British people are too scared of having the "fascist finger" pointed at them if they speak openly. I suspect that Serbs and Russians are less intimidated and more courageous.

Amer

pre 10 godina

"You will not shut us up by calling us extremists or racists. We know we are realists.
(Peggy, 24 May 2013 16:05) "

That may be your view of yourselves, but even more-realistic types know that totally subjugating, not to mention "removing" members of a different group from society just doesn't work. Love one another, or die, says the poet. Christian and Jewish religious leaders are speaking in mosques today in London (try reading the Guardian rather than the Telegraph for a change) saying something similar. This is a time for putting out fires, not for splashing gasoline around.

The Balkans

pre 10 godina

(femi, 24 May 2013 17:49)

It's utter hypocrisy, thank you.

People like Peggers over there demonize all Croats for instance for the things their Fascists did back in WW2, yet refuse to acknowledge the terrible things which Serb soldiers and leaders and whoever else did since then.

Whatever. Hate - it's blinding.

Roger7

pre 10 godina

The disgusting history of Muslim's barbaric brutality of chopping off heads of human beings ...

the Skull Tower (Cela Kula) in Nis, Serbia built in 1809 by the Turks holds human skulls.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

And from your comment, I can see why you'd support ultra-nationalist ignorant racist intolerant bigots in the 1990's.
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Anyone who dares to speak the truth about Muslims (majority not minority as you claim) is considered ultra-nationalist, extremist, nationalist etc. etc. according to you.
No, these people are realists. They might need to deliver their message in a different way but the message should stay the same.
The nut jobs, as you call them are representative of many Muslims. Where do they get their support from? Just look at the Muslims on this site for an example. Plenty of evidence of how they think.
You are the extremists because you support them. Your support for Islam is dangerous.
So much evidence of chaos in Europe and you still say only the minority are like that. How many have turned up to protests carrying grotesque signs of beheading anyone who insults Islam? How many have carried signs saying Islam will dominate? Only a few? Give me a break.

You will not shut us up by calling us extremists or racists. We know we are realists.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

I see no difference between you and them in terms of how you relate to others that is not similar to you or does not share your views.
(femi, 24 May 2013 17:49)
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Many people don't share my views about many things but I don't get angry about it.
What I am angry about is people who come on here and still find a way to condemn the Serbs for speaking the truth, which in reality means that they are supporting the Muslims.
I am not against all Muslims, but I am a realist enough to know that it's not only a small minority who harbour resentment and hate towards us. Proof is everywhere. So yes, I hate the haters.
Something wrong with that?
I never said all Muslims, only many if not majority.

Again, trying to shut me up with name calling is not working. Also, I do not advocate any terrorist activity so don't put me in the same basket.

All I am saying is deport all who enable the nut jobs and don't bring any more in.
If you think this is extreme instead of smart then keep thinking it.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Peggy is proud of Chetniks!

Chetniks supposed to fight the German army so they claimed. But the British stopped arming Chetniks and started to arm partisans of Tito instead because chetinks hardly ever engaged with German soldiers
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That's because of communist infiltrators who were giving the British wrong intelligence.

Now proof of that is that Chetniks march along with allied soldiers here in Australia every year on Anzac day not partizans not ustasha and not Albanians.
So smart femi, tell us why then should I be ashamed. Have the Australians got it wrong and the Nazi supporters be allowed to march here?

This is proof that chetniks were the good guys according to the west. Talk to Australian government and tell them what you wrote here and see which one of us is right. If chetniks were the bad guys I am sure they would not be allowed to march.

Why don't you educate yourself instead of spreading cr@p on here?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

femi, again I ask you to produce some evidence that when I first appeared here I claimed I was not a Serb or shut the hell up.
Seriously, I am fed up with this rubbish. I have already replied to you here that I never said that and asked you to produce some evidence of it if you insist on claiming it. So prove it or shut up. You are unbelievable. Keep repeating the same cr@p over and over even though you have not one shred of evidence.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

femi, you are unbelievable. You tried to pin on Chetniks the fact that they were the bad guys and when I give you proof of how they were with the allies you dismiss it and tell me to look for proof in Bosnia. The allies are the Australians who allow them to march with them on that very special occasion. That proves something but of course you dismiss it because it doesn't fit your distortion of truth.

Never mind that for now. I have asked you more than once to give us evidence where I claimed that I was not Serbian. You conveniently leave it alone now that you know you cannot.
So either take back what you said or give us that proof.

If you can't then apologise for lying.
I am not letting you off the hook. So how about it. Either apologise to me or prove me wrong.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Peggy, you've been reading too much of Pamela Geller
(Nikolle, 25 May 2013 14:09)
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She's right. It doesn't matter where the truth comes from as long as it's the truth and Pamela speaks it.