“No agreement on Kosovo’s country code”

Pavićević’s said that “Mrs. Tahiri’s statements often tend to be sensational and are very often far from the truth and reality”.

I trust her words, rather than yours.
Remember asterisk melting like snow flakes, and it sure did.

“This is not about Serbia removing or not removing any obstacles, Kosovo as an unrecognized entity cannot get such a code,” he explained.

Exactly. It's called 'country code' or 'country prefix' - and not 'entity prefix' or 'provincial prefix'. ITU has rules for members, just like many other organizations that don't grant membership to self-proclaimed pseudo states.

Exactly. It's called 'country code' or 'country prefix' - and not 'entity prefix' or 'provincial prefix'. ITU has rules for members, just like many other organizations that don't grant membership to self-proclaimed pseudo states.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 May 2013 18:37)

Interesting... We learn new things every day in these forums. For example, today we learned than US, Canada, Russia and Kazakhstan are not recognized countries because they don't have their own country code :)

An agreement isn't required, a 2/3 majority vote is required for membership in the International Telecommunication Union, which is easily achievable.

But yes, you are right, Kosovo is a country, too, they only share the prefix with Morocco (mobile) and Serbia (fixed).

Why all the fuzz about a new country code?
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 May 2013 09:41)

It's Monaco by the way. Serbia is being given a choice. Either accept a new code or Kosova will be using Albanian's code. Both of these solutions are being worked in parallel. If you say no to a new code then Albania's code it is. It's simple. It will be moved from Monaco to Albania. Something tells me our Serb neighbors won't like for Kosova to use Albania's code. At this point is up to you. Choose wisely. You see, since the war in 99, nothing is left at Serbia's mercy anymore. Simply because there is no such thing as Serbian mercy, when it comes to Albanians.

The spitars should get the code 69. It's hilarious, just like their fairy tale county & magical history :-)

"Why all the fuzz about a new country code?"

I don't know, ask Serbia. Why are they making a fuss?

Why all the fuzz about a new country code?
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 May 2013 09:41,
One thing is the money being paid out to Monaco for rights to their code.
There is something interesting in that deal though, it was arranged by the UN/UNMIK not the Kosovo govt. One has to wonder why?
Could it be that the UN under 1244(which so many of you believe guaranteed that Kosovo would forever be a part of Serbia) did not believe that Kosovo would ever return to Serbia?
But I do not know why it was necessary for him to say this as it is common knowledge Serbia has zero control over the issue.

(Daniel, 20 May 2013 10:13)

From the ITU website:

http://www.itu.int/en/membership/Pages/member-states-membership.aspx

"How to become a Member State

If the State is a Member of the United Nations:

It becomes a Member State of the ITU by acceding to the Constitution and the Convention of the International Telecommunication Union (Geneva, 1992). Such accession shall be made simultaneously in the form of one single document covering both the Constitution and the Convention.

If the State is not a Member of the United Nations:

The application for membership needs to have a secured approval by two-thirds of the Member States of the Union; after such approval, the admission procedure is the same as described above in the form of one single document."

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So if you're a member of the UN then you have the automatic right to join, if not then a 2/3 majority approval is required.

Keep calling those morrocan cells with those ridiculous rates :p

--> "Member states of the ITU are 192 UN member states (all except Palau) and the Vatican City."
(Just for Information, 19 May 2013 09:45)

That's not what the ITU's constitution says regarding membership.

Disclaimer: As with all other resolutions, treaties, etc.., the above is referring to the English version not the Serbian version, since the latter is always different than the former :)

Then what have the Albanians waiting for? The tooth fairy to arrive? For a person who works in the UK health area you seem to be an expert in international communication regulations. (sj, 19. maj 2013 10:58) How do I seem to be an expert? I've just read the membership requirements on their website.

Exactly. It's called 'country code' or 'country prefix' - and not 'entity prefix' or 'provincial prefix'. ITU has rules for members, just like many other organizations that don't grant membership to self-proclaimed pseudo states.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 May 2013 18:37)

Interesting... We learn new things every day in these forums. For example, today we learned than US, Canada, Russia and Kazakhstan are not recognized countries because they don't have their own country code :)
(icj1)

Kazakhstan does in fact have their country code; 011+771.

USA and Canada, share their international code as "1" followed by their disctrict area code.

Morrocon cells are still your best shot at the moment.

Kazakhstan does in fact have their country code; 011+771.

USA and Canada, share their international code as "1" followed by their disctrict area code.
(trudsaam, 19 May 2013 01:52)

Unfortunately, either Russia or Kazakhstan are not recognized countries (similarly to US and Canada) because they both have a country code of 7 (according to the ITU http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-t/opb/sp/T-SP-E.164D-11-2011-PDF-E.pdf). Not sure where did you get the country code of +771 for Kazakthstan... probably the Serbian version of ITU publications :)

Then what have the Albanians waiting for? The tooth fairy to arrive? For a person who works in the UK health area you seem to be an expert in international communication regulations.
(sj, 19. maj 2013 10:58)

How do I seem to be an expert? I've just read the membership requirements on their website.
(Ian, UK, 19 May 2013 20:44)

That's not a reliable source since it has not been approved by sj. You can get better information if you ask sj's Malaysian friend.

An agreement isn't required, a 2/3 majority vote is required for membership in the International Telecommunication Union, which is easily achievable.
(Ian, UK, 18 May 2013 22:49)
Then what have the Albanians waiting for? The tooth fairy to arrive? For a person who works in the UK health area you seem to be an expert in international communication regulations.

Implementation of agreement didn’t start yet, and Kosovo Albanians are already obstructing the process by placing the wrong information.

"We learn new things every day in these forums. For example, today we learned than US, Canada, Russia and Kazakhstan are not recognized countries because they don't have their own country code :)"
(icj1, 18 May 2013 22:13)

Russia: Prefix +7 ... some non-recognized pseudo-countries (South Ossetia, Abchasia) share that code, and yes, Kazakhstan as well (for historical reasons).

About US and Canada: They use the NANP number plan, together with dozens of those small island states (you know, these 'countries' where Pacolli lobbied recognitions form).

But yes, you are right, Kosovo is a country, too, they only share the prefix with Morocco (mobile) and Serbia (fixed).

Why all the fuzz about a new country code?

An agreement isn't required, a 2/3 majority vote is required for membership in the International Telecommunication Union, which is easily achievable.
(Ian, UK, 18 May 2013 22:49)

--> "Member states of the ITU are 192 UN member states (all except Palau) and the Vatican City."

From english wikipedia.
Membership of ITU is open to governments, which may join the Union as Member States, as well as to private organizations like carriers, equipment manufacturers, funding bodies, research and development organizations and international and regional telecommunication organizations, which can join ITU as non-voting Sector Members.[7]

There are 193 member states of the ITU, which includes 192 UN member states (all except Palau) and the Vatican City. The most recent member state to join the ITU is South Sudan, which became a member on 14 July 2011.[8]

“This is not about Serbia removing or not removing any obstacles, Kosovo as an unrecognized entity cannot get such a code,” he explained.

Exactly. It's called 'country code' or 'country prefix' - and not 'entity prefix' or 'provincial prefix'. ITU has rules for members, just like many other organizations that don't grant membership to self-proclaimed pseudo states.

Pavićević’s said that “Mrs. Tahiri’s statements often tend to be sensational and are very often far from the truth and reality”.

I trust her words, rather than yours.
Remember asterisk melting like snow flakes, and it sure did.

An agreement isn't required, a 2/3 majority vote is required for membership in the International Telecommunication Union, which is easily achievable.
(Ian, UK, 18 May 2013 22:49)
Then what have the Albanians waiting for? The tooth fairy to arrive? For a person who works in the UK health area you seem to be an expert in international communication regulations.

The spitars should get the code 69. It's hilarious, just like their fairy tale county & magical history :-)

Exactly. It's called 'country code' or 'country prefix' - and not 'entity prefix' or 'provincial prefix'. ITU has rules for members, just like many other organizations that don't grant membership to self-proclaimed pseudo states.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 May 2013 18:37)

Interesting... We learn new things every day in these forums. For example, today we learned than US, Canada, Russia and Kazakhstan are not recognized countries because they don't have their own country code :)

An agreement isn't required, a 2/3 majority vote is required for membership in the International Telecommunication Union, which is easily achievable.

Exactly. It's called 'country code' or 'country prefix' - and not 'entity prefix' or 'provincial prefix'. ITU has rules for members, just like many other organizations that don't grant membership to self-proclaimed pseudo states.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 May 2013 18:37)

Interesting... We learn new things every day in these forums. For example, today we learned than US, Canada, Russia and Kazakhstan are not recognized countries because they don't have their own country code :)
(icj1)

Kazakhstan does in fact have their country code; 011+771.

USA and Canada, share their international code as "1" followed by their disctrict area code.

Morrocon cells are still your best shot at the moment.

Keep calling those morrocan cells with those ridiculous rates :p

"We learn new things every day in these forums. For example, today we learned than US, Canada, Russia and Kazakhstan are not recognized countries because they don't have their own country code :)"
(icj1, 18 May 2013 22:13)

Russia: Prefix +7 ... some non-recognized pseudo-countries (South Ossetia, Abchasia) share that code, and yes, Kazakhstan as well (for historical reasons).

About US and Canada: They use the NANP number plan, together with dozens of those small island states (you know, these 'countries' where Pacolli lobbied recognitions form).

But yes, you are right, Kosovo is a country, too, they only share the prefix with Morocco (mobile) and Serbia (fixed).

Why all the fuzz about a new country code?

Then what have the Albanians waiting for? The tooth fairy to arrive? For a person who works in the UK health area you seem to be an expert in international communication regulations. (sj, 19. maj 2013 10:58) How do I seem to be an expert? I've just read the membership requirements on their website.

Implementation of agreement didn’t start yet, and Kosovo Albanians are already obstructing the process by placing the wrong information.

An agreement isn't required, a 2/3 majority vote is required for membership in the International Telecommunication Union, which is easily achievable.
(Ian, UK, 18 May 2013 22:49)

--> "Member states of the ITU are 192 UN member states (all except Palau) and the Vatican City."

Kazakhstan does in fact have their country code; 011+771.

USA and Canada, share their international code as "1" followed by their disctrict area code.
(trudsaam, 19 May 2013 01:52)

Unfortunately, either Russia or Kazakhstan are not recognized countries (similarly to US and Canada) because they both have a country code of 7 (according to the ITU http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-t/opb/sp/T-SP-E.164D-11-2011-PDF-E.pdf). Not sure where did you get the country code of +771 for Kazakthstan... probably the Serbian version of ITU publications :)

But yes, you are right, Kosovo is a country, too, they only share the prefix with Morocco (mobile) and Serbia (fixed).

Why all the fuzz about a new country code?
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 May 2013 09:41)

It's Monaco by the way. Serbia is being given a choice. Either accept a new code or Kosova will be using Albanian's code. Both of these solutions are being worked in parallel. If you say no to a new code then Albania's code it is. It's simple. It will be moved from Monaco to Albania. Something tells me our Serb neighbors won't like for Kosova to use Albania's code. At this point is up to you. Choose wisely. You see, since the war in 99, nothing is left at Serbia's mercy anymore. Simply because there is no such thing as Serbian mercy, when it comes to Albanians.

From english wikipedia.
Membership of ITU is open to governments, which may join the Union as Member States, as well as to private organizations like carriers, equipment manufacturers, funding bodies, research and development organizations and international and regional telecommunication organizations, which can join ITU as non-voting Sector Members.[7]

There are 193 member states of the ITU, which includes 192 UN member states (all except Palau) and the Vatican City. The most recent member state to join the ITU is South Sudan, which became a member on 14 July 2011.[8]

"Why all the fuzz about a new country code?"

I don't know, ask Serbia. Why are they making a fuss?

--> "Member states of the ITU are 192 UN member states (all except Palau) and the Vatican City."
(Just for Information, 19 May 2013 09:45)

That's not what the ITU's constitution says regarding membership.

Disclaimer: As with all other resolutions, treaties, etc.., the above is referring to the English version not the Serbian version, since the latter is always different than the former :)

Why all the fuzz about a new country code?
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 May 2013 09:41,
One thing is the money being paid out to Monaco for rights to their code.
There is something interesting in that deal though, it was arranged by the UN/UNMIK not the Kosovo govt. One has to wonder why?
Could it be that the UN under 1244(which so many of you believe guaranteed that Kosovo would forever be a part of Serbia) did not believe that Kosovo would ever return to Serbia?
But I do not know why it was necessary for him to say this as it is common knowledge Serbia has zero control over the issue.

Then what have the Albanians waiting for? The tooth fairy to arrive? For a person who works in the UK health area you seem to be an expert in international communication regulations.
(sj, 19. maj 2013 10:58)

How do I seem to be an expert? I've just read the membership requirements on their website.
(Ian, UK, 19 May 2013 20:44)

That's not a reliable source since it has not been approved by sj. You can get better information if you ask sj's Malaysian friend.

(Daniel, 20 May 2013 10:13)

From the ITU website:

http://www.itu.int/en/membership/Pages/member-states-membership.aspx

"How to become a Member State

If the State is a Member of the United Nations:

It becomes a Member State of the ITU by acceding to the Constitution and the Convention of the International Telecommunication Union (Geneva, 1992). Such accession shall be made simultaneously in the form of one single document covering both the Constitution and the Convention.

If the State is not a Member of the United Nations:

The application for membership needs to have a secured approval by two-thirds of the Member States of the Union; after such approval, the admission procedure is the same as described above in the form of one single document."

-----------

So if you're a member of the UN then you have the automatic right to join, if not then a 2/3 majority approval is required.