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Friday, 17.05.2013.

10:54

We won’t give Kosovo away, president says

Germany should understand that it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide, Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says.

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njegos

pre 10 godina

"Germany should understand that it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide, Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says."

He added that Serbia would not "give Kosovo away".

News flash to Nikolic: You and your negotiating team of recycled communists have already given Kosovo away. Just as your communist predecessor, Slobo, gave Krajina away. The well being of the masses has never had any meaning in communist ideology. The Serbs had better get some leaders with backbones before they give away the entire country for a few euros.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

actually 1389, what we really should do, is hand over Kosova to Italy. lets face it, they have far more of a historical claim to it than most. we Albanians will migrate to Turkey apparently, you Serbs migrate to Russia, or Siberia (where the Slavs originally come from) and we give Kosova back to the sons of Romans. however, you migrate first, then we'll follow you right after. if we're going to go historical here, lets not start with the Nemanjas, lets start with the Romans, they here before any Slav had even seen the Europe, never mind Kosova

ifyoucould

pre 10 godina

If you could get money and investments from the other side you would and you wouldn't wait for an EU decision to do that. The truth is you can't get mony or investments from anywhere else.

ivan

pre 10 godina

Something must have been discussed during the recent visit with Putin for this spineless coward to talk like this. Bravo Russia!!!!

God bless the DSS, the Radicals, Dveri, Iran, North Korea, etc....

J

pre 10 godina

'J': I won't be 'blocked and conditioned for decades' because I'm British not Serbian. I'm being conditioned by the Americans already!!
(ned taylor, 17 May 2013 16:43)

Sorry to hear that. What are we doing this time? I thought our countries were buddies.

No Mercy

pre 10 godina

So the idea that Serbs do not recognize and support kosova independence now is ridiculous.
(Brian, 17 May 2013 22:26)
That is not idea , but fact! There is no way that Serbia will recognize Kosovo as sovereign country.

Ambivalent

pre 10 godina

Citizens despairing Nikolic?? You must be joking more likely they will be rejoicing at news of accession date collapse! I know not a single Serbian who has the slightest interest in joining the EU apart from politicians. Why introduce our politicians to another trough they can feed from there are enough parasites already in Brussels.

1389

pre 10 godina

Kosovo and Metohija was,is and will be forever part of Serbia,Kosovo is the heart of Serbia,Serbia can not function as a state without its southern province Kosovo.
Kosovo have 1.7 million Muslims or Turks therefore is not in the Serbian interests that Kosovo now to be unified with Serbia but in the near future Serbia will take Kosovo again by war and all Muslims from Kosovo will be send to Albania,Turkey or in other places and Kosovo will be 100% Serbian as it was 5 centuries ago.
I'm skeptical with the EU integration of Serbia,if she join the EU(NATO)she will never see Kosovo nor in the dream,majority of the Serbs wherever they are they prefer Kosovo before NATO-EU.

Brian

pre 10 godina

Serbs have recognized kosova is independent but the government officially is still bound by he old constitution. 63% of Serbs say kosovo is independent. 3000 oppose Kosovo independence Ina rally 100,000 see Novak djokovic celebrate a tennis game win. So the idea that Serbs do not recognize and support kosova independence now is ridiculous.

Lenard

pre 10 godina

We won’t give Kosovo away, president says. Of course not but for the rite price definitively yes. The price all brain dead marionette stooges politicians get well paying dream job in the "EU" empire. As enhanced brain dead marionette stooges son of bureaucrats. This will be their theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pB7Hszs3k&list=PL2635DE2239E05756 that the dead brain marionettes can flop around to that includes Croatian dumb assess politicians.

cry me a river

pre 10 godina

Bam Bam and IanUK its OK for you two to be delusional, but keep it to yourselves. For the record I know you don't like hearing it but Serbs, Montenegrens and Macedonians stood up to the Nazi's, while Croats, Albanians, Slovenes and Bosnian Muslims happily joined the Nazi's for some proper genocide of Serbs, Jews, and Roma, and we are not talking about revenge attacks, terror attacks or ethnic cleansing, but real and proper systematic genocide-every man woman and child stuff. Capiche.
(miles

Is it possible that such ignorant people still exist in this day and age?!
Do they have internet in Serbia?
Do people have access to unbiased news there?

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

@ Miles

I thought Santos's comment was daft because he said "the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2".

He missed out the UK, the USSR, the USA, France, Poland, China, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Mexico, most of Central America, Philippines, Mongolia, other British and French colonies and many many many more.

That is why it is ridiculous to say that "the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2".

I know the Serbs "stood up against fascism during WW2" and fought for the Yugoslav Partisans and Royalist-Chetniks against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Bulgaria, Serbian Government of National Salvation, Hungary and the Independent State of Croatia.

Why wouldn't I want to hear about it?

Yes some Croats, Bosniaks, Slovens, Albanians ect to collaborate with the Nazis, whilst others didn't. The same applies to Serbs too. The Chetniks fought against and collaborated with everyone, especially after they lost western support to the Yugoslav Partisans. Every heard of the Serbian State Guard or the Serbian Volunteer Corps?

But like I said, WW2 has nothing to do with this article and I think people like you need to get over it. You weren't around during WW2 and your parents were most likely not around then either, or at least too young to remember it. Stop banging on about it. It is an unhealthy obsession.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

"...It would be hard to get the citizens to be willing to endure something else then,” the Serbian president underscored.
WTH is he trying to say?

Joachim

pre 10 godina

send this clown into the desert. with people like him in power Serbia will get nowhere.
(Willi Pfaff, 17 May 2013 15:53)
NOPE, Willy, he doesn't wish to be your roommate!
LMAO

miles

pre 10 godina

Bam Bam and IanUK its OK for you two to be delusional, but keep it to yourselves. For the record I know you don't like hearing it but Serbs, Montenegrens and Macedonians stood up to the Nazi's, while Croats, Albanians, Slovenes and Bosnian Muslims happily joined the Nazi's for some proper genocide of Serbs, Jews, and Roma, and we are not talking about revenge attacks, terror attacks or ethnic cleansing, but real and proper systematic genocide-every man woman and child stuff. Capiche.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

???. Of course you can't give away something you don't have! You must first have that something in your possession & control, in order to be able to give it away! And Kosova is independent now, and has been out of Serbia's control & possession for a very long time! And, I don't see this fact changing as long as planet earth continues sustaining human life! So keep on dreaming!

rrudi

pre 10 godina

Serbians Kosovo is gone, please get this mind set in your heads. I cannot understand Nikolic's mentality. 2 million Albanians do not want to be governed by you, 130,000 Serbs want to remain with Serbia. Get the math's right. 8 million serbs held hostage by so few. Think of your children's future.Kosovo is dirt poor run by a narco-mafia who also indulge in the trafficking of women.Do you really want these people sharing your country?

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

'J': I won't be 'blocked and conditioned for decades' because I'm British not Serbian. I'm being conditioned by the Americans already!!

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

If Slovakia,Spain Greece etc said Yes they will change the position cosidering recognision of Kosovo after the agreement was sign in Brussel,and now they are still saying NO siding with Serbia,Germany and pro Kosovo allies should play the same game.
They said Yes to Serbia and now should say NO.
So instead of a win-win situation as we hoped for Kosovo and Serbia we will have a lose-lose situation for both coutries because Serbia wants so.
Let it be!We waited 100 years to get Kosovo out of Serbia rule, we can wait several more years.

J

pre 10 godina

" As for Kosovo, it is as good as gone already but there is no need for the EU to try to embarrass Serbia further by seeking formal recognition."

-- Ned, it will come with time. Give it another 20 years. Serbia hasn't come to the realization that formally recognizing Kosova is in its best interest. They will with time. There is no way an open conflict helps Serbia. And That will stall Serbia's progress like it has for decades. Kosova on the other side started from below zero after the war and even though conflict doesn't help it can only grow, at least until it reaches a certain level. There are still decades of growth ahead. Serbia in a way becomes Kosova's hostage even though your politicians think that by keeping Kosova out of the UN you are keeping it as hostage. That would work if we had no western support and depended on our survival on some third world eastern country. We have shown that it is possible to be independent of Serbia and make it only with western support and no UN membership. We can go like this for decades. Are you ready to be blocked and conditioned for decades because of Kosova and the mirage that one day you will be overloading the Albanians there which constitute more tha 95% of the population.

Captain America

pre 10 godina

"We won’t give Kosovo away, president says."

Imagine a book slamming onto the top of a desk in a classroom making a very loud bang!

Now, I have your attention. You guys already signed away Kosova with the agreement! What Nikolic is doing is running his mouth to make everyone feel better. However, running your mouth and fighting for Kosova are two different things. The signing of the agreement was the final nail in the proverbial coffin of Serbia's "fight" to retain Kosova.

Serb policemen will look very sharp in Kosovar police uniforms and Kosovar police vehicles!

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

@ get real how about you get a life .... against children and women is that what you call -albanian - bosnian - croatian extremists

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Many have forgotten that the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2.
(Santo, 17 May 2013 13:52)

You have made a highly inaccurate and false statement. I don't even understand how World War Two relates to this news article.

Zoran

pre 10 godina

LOL! Nikolić sounding all big but he is the biggest sell-out there is. Actions speak louder than words but there will be none from this fool. Both SNS and DS have proven to be full of traitors. I don't think Serbs will be buying this c***

too funny

pre 10 godina

ForeverTwoWheels, 17 May 2013 12:14),
Most nearly all the diasporia fled Serbia because they wanted a better life than the dismal one that faced them there. Now you think these same people are going to uproot their families to fight a war for a chance to return to the dismal future they just escaped. Dude you are too funny, Run Germany run, indeed.

get real

pre 10 godina

considering what the Germans have accomplished in Europe between 1939 and 1945, and they are member of the EU, I say that the Serbs have done little in comparison during the Balkan War. They barely defended themselves against fascists and integrists.
(Santo, 17 May 2013 13:52)

Defending yourself against children and women?

Crimes of Serbia in Kosovo 1998-1999
According to the data collected in Kosovo, from January 1998 until June 12, 1999 there have been 12 843 victims of Albanian nationality, out of which 1 741 were women.

Crimes of Serbia against children in Kosovo
From January until June 12, 1999, 1 396 children under the age of 18 or over 11% of the total number of dead people in Kosovo, have disappeared or been killed.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

put it this way Michael Thomas, Serbia is far more corrupt, bankrupt and criminal than the EU. and by the way, if the EU is not worth joining, I don't understand why Serbian voters, keep electing parties who want in on the EU. face it, you want to join

winston

pre 10 godina

My president you are correct! Now it is timwe for patriots to come home and sacrifice for our people. The diaspora can no longer hide behind words......it is time for the diaspora to come bacvk to Serbia and do what must be done (ForeverTwoWheels)
My president, sound like Mein Führer. As for Serbian diaspora coming back to Serbia, I don't think so, not yet. Serbian politicians, including Mein president, have brought Serbia to the brink of extinction, physically, economically, spiritually, you name it. They ruined the country. There is still very little left to come back to, and getting worse. And "we will give away Kosovo", Mr. Toma Diploma, I don't think it yours to keep anymore. Formal recognition, words, is all that is left. I, as a Serb/Montenegrin in the diaspora, am really tired of this political tug of war that Serb politicians are playing with Kosovo. If they were so intent on preserving it as a province, IMHO, they would have used different tactics in the past, than what they did.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

Hitler or no Hitler Nikolic has to realise that Germany is god in Europe. The Serbs will do as they are told or they will be eating dinner in Beograd soup kitchens. Listen to the Germans as they are your father now. Mother Russia is becoming more and more like an "adopted" brother.

Michael Thomas

pre 10 godina

The EU is not worth joining at all. It is a bankrupt criminal organisation that will steal everything of value in Serbia.

The question of what to do with Kosovo is separate from the EU issue. Kosovo has trillions of euros worth of minerals, and this is why the western criminal elite want to strip it away from Serbia. Serbia should not give these assets away.

While NATO-thugs occupy Kosovo, Serbia should simply maintain the status quo and make sure that Kosovo Serbs have safety and decent lives.

When NATO disappears, as the once invincible Nazis disappeared, then Serbians and Albanians can sort out the future of Kosovo between themselves.

My guess is that with NATO gone the Albanians will be much friendlier to Serbs.

BURCHARD

pre 10 godina

Hello I just wanted to say I am German and we Germans have nothing against you Serbs and you are very welcome to join the EU, I have visited Serbia a multiple of times and felt very welcome by the people in this beautiful and hospitable country, your country belongs to Europe of course, but you know our government is a bit picky especially in these financially difficult times, but I truly hope our government and parliament will both be fair to you when they make their decision in June, best of wishes from Frankfurt :)

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

"We won’t give Kosovo away, president says"

I agree with him for two reasons.

1. You don't have Kosovo, therefore you can't give away what you don't have.

2. Kosovo isn't his to give away.

Santo

pre 10 godina

Mr Burchard, considering what the Germans have accomplished in Europe between 1939 and 1945, and they are member of the EU, I say that the Serbs have done little in comparison during the Balkan War. They barely defended themselves against fascists and integrists. And they are the only ones singled out. This is a shame. Many have forgotten that the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2.

Pain and gain

pre 10 godina

When someone works hard and you reward him, he'll work even harder, if you don't reward him he'll lose his desire to work. Germans should have some common sense!

ForeverTwoWheels

pre 10 godina

My president you are correct! Now it is timwe for patriots to come home and sacrifice for our people. The diaspora can no longer hide behind words......it is time for the diaspora to come bacvk to serbia and do what must be done........run germany.....run

koko

pre 10 godina

"it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide."

Death and horror, the Serb export still continues.


"We are not giving Kosovo away."

Self deluded lies still go on, when just days ago the same bunch were apologizing for crimes against humanity.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

The last paragraph is spot on. Yes, try to achieve EU membership if that is what a majority of citizens want, but concentrate on improving the lives of ordinary people on a day to day basis. Learn a lesson from Greece, Spain, Portugal and others; do not spend what you do not have. As for Kosovo, it is as good as gone already but there is no need for the EU to try to embarrass Serbia further by seeking formal recognition.

Iden

pre 10 godina

His statements make sense this time, unlike most of the times... Germany previously said they want Serbia to abolish its institutions in Kosovo to get a date, and so it will do, so Germany should stop acting like it owns the EU! Germany is not more important than France or any other EU country. even if they are the richest...

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

"We won’t give Kosovo away, president says"

I agree with him for two reasons.

1. You don't have Kosovo, therefore you can't give away what you don't have.

2. Kosovo isn't his to give away.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

put it this way Michael Thomas, Serbia is far more corrupt, bankrupt and criminal than the EU. and by the way, if the EU is not worth joining, I don't understand why Serbian voters, keep electing parties who want in on the EU. face it, you want to join

winston

pre 10 godina

My president you are correct! Now it is timwe for patriots to come home and sacrifice for our people. The diaspora can no longer hide behind words......it is time for the diaspora to come bacvk to Serbia and do what must be done (ForeverTwoWheels)
My president, sound like Mein Führer. As for Serbian diaspora coming back to Serbia, I don't think so, not yet. Serbian politicians, including Mein president, have brought Serbia to the brink of extinction, physically, economically, spiritually, you name it. They ruined the country. There is still very little left to come back to, and getting worse. And "we will give away Kosovo", Mr. Toma Diploma, I don't think it yours to keep anymore. Formal recognition, words, is all that is left. I, as a Serb/Montenegrin in the diaspora, am really tired of this political tug of war that Serb politicians are playing with Kosovo. If they were so intent on preserving it as a province, IMHO, they would have used different tactics in the past, than what they did.

koko

pre 10 godina

"it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide."

Death and horror, the Serb export still continues.


"We are not giving Kosovo away."

Self deluded lies still go on, when just days ago the same bunch were apologizing for crimes against humanity.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

Hitler or no Hitler Nikolic has to realise that Germany is god in Europe. The Serbs will do as they are told or they will be eating dinner in Beograd soup kitchens. Listen to the Germans as they are your father now. Mother Russia is becoming more and more like an "adopted" brother.

get real

pre 10 godina

considering what the Germans have accomplished in Europe between 1939 and 1945, and they are member of the EU, I say that the Serbs have done little in comparison during the Balkan War. They barely defended themselves against fascists and integrists.
(Santo, 17 May 2013 13:52)

Defending yourself against children and women?

Crimes of Serbia in Kosovo 1998-1999
According to the data collected in Kosovo, from January 1998 until June 12, 1999 there have been 12 843 victims of Albanian nationality, out of which 1 741 were women.

Crimes of Serbia against children in Kosovo
From January until June 12, 1999, 1 396 children under the age of 18 or over 11% of the total number of dead people in Kosovo, have disappeared or been killed.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Many have forgotten that the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2.
(Santo, 17 May 2013 13:52)

You have made a highly inaccurate and false statement. I don't even understand how World War Two relates to this news article.

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

@ Miles

I thought Santos's comment was daft because he said "the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2".

He missed out the UK, the USSR, the USA, France, Poland, China, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Mexico, most of Central America, Philippines, Mongolia, other British and French colonies and many many many more.

That is why it is ridiculous to say that "the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2".

I know the Serbs "stood up against fascism during WW2" and fought for the Yugoslav Partisans and Royalist-Chetniks against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Bulgaria, Serbian Government of National Salvation, Hungary and the Independent State of Croatia.

Why wouldn't I want to hear about it?

Yes some Croats, Bosniaks, Slovens, Albanians ect to collaborate with the Nazis, whilst others didn't. The same applies to Serbs too. The Chetniks fought against and collaborated with everyone, especially after they lost western support to the Yugoslav Partisans. Every heard of the Serbian State Guard or the Serbian Volunteer Corps?

But like I said, WW2 has nothing to do with this article and I think people like you need to get over it. You weren't around during WW2 and your parents were most likely not around then either, or at least too young to remember it. Stop banging on about it. It is an unhealthy obsession.

cry me a river

pre 10 godina

Bam Bam and IanUK its OK for you two to be delusional, but keep it to yourselves. For the record I know you don't like hearing it but Serbs, Montenegrens and Macedonians stood up to the Nazi's, while Croats, Albanians, Slovenes and Bosnian Muslims happily joined the Nazi's for some proper genocide of Serbs, Jews, and Roma, and we are not talking about revenge attacks, terror attacks or ethnic cleansing, but real and proper systematic genocide-every man woman and child stuff. Capiche.
(miles

Is it possible that such ignorant people still exist in this day and age?!
Do they have internet in Serbia?
Do people have access to unbiased news there?

BURCHARD

pre 10 godina

Hello I just wanted to say I am German and we Germans have nothing against you Serbs and you are very welcome to join the EU, I have visited Serbia a multiple of times and felt very welcome by the people in this beautiful and hospitable country, your country belongs to Europe of course, but you know our government is a bit picky especially in these financially difficult times, but I truly hope our government and parliament will both be fair to you when they make their decision in June, best of wishes from Frankfurt :)

Zoran

pre 10 godina

LOL! Nikolić sounding all big but he is the biggest sell-out there is. Actions speak louder than words but there will be none from this fool. Both SNS and DS have proven to be full of traitors. I don't think Serbs will be buying this c***

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

If Slovakia,Spain Greece etc said Yes they will change the position cosidering recognision of Kosovo after the agreement was sign in Brussel,and now they are still saying NO siding with Serbia,Germany and pro Kosovo allies should play the same game.
They said Yes to Serbia and now should say NO.
So instead of a win-win situation as we hoped for Kosovo and Serbia we will have a lose-lose situation for both coutries because Serbia wants so.
Let it be!We waited 100 years to get Kosovo out of Serbia rule, we can wait several more years.

Captain America

pre 10 godina

"We won’t give Kosovo away, president says."

Imagine a book slamming onto the top of a desk in a classroom making a very loud bang!

Now, I have your attention. You guys already signed away Kosova with the agreement! What Nikolic is doing is running his mouth to make everyone feel better. However, running your mouth and fighting for Kosova are two different things. The signing of the agreement was the final nail in the proverbial coffin of Serbia's "fight" to retain Kosova.

Serb policemen will look very sharp in Kosovar police uniforms and Kosovar police vehicles!

ForeverTwoWheels

pre 10 godina

My president you are correct! Now it is timwe for patriots to come home and sacrifice for our people. The diaspora can no longer hide behind words......it is time for the diaspora to come bacvk to serbia and do what must be done........run germany.....run

too funny

pre 10 godina

ForeverTwoWheels, 17 May 2013 12:14),
Most nearly all the diasporia fled Serbia because they wanted a better life than the dismal one that faced them there. Now you think these same people are going to uproot their families to fight a war for a chance to return to the dismal future they just escaped. Dude you are too funny, Run Germany run, indeed.

Iden

pre 10 godina

His statements make sense this time, unlike most of the times... Germany previously said they want Serbia to abolish its institutions in Kosovo to get a date, and so it will do, so Germany should stop acting like it owns the EU! Germany is not more important than France or any other EU country. even if they are the richest...

J

pre 10 godina

" As for Kosovo, it is as good as gone already but there is no need for the EU to try to embarrass Serbia further by seeking formal recognition."

-- Ned, it will come with time. Give it another 20 years. Serbia hasn't come to the realization that formally recognizing Kosova is in its best interest. They will with time. There is no way an open conflict helps Serbia. And That will stall Serbia's progress like it has for decades. Kosova on the other side started from below zero after the war and even though conflict doesn't help it can only grow, at least until it reaches a certain level. There are still decades of growth ahead. Serbia in a way becomes Kosova's hostage even though your politicians think that by keeping Kosova out of the UN you are keeping it as hostage. That would work if we had no western support and depended on our survival on some third world eastern country. We have shown that it is possible to be independent of Serbia and make it only with western support and no UN membership. We can go like this for decades. Are you ready to be blocked and conditioned for decades because of Kosova and the mirage that one day you will be overloading the Albanians there which constitute more tha 95% of the population.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

The last paragraph is spot on. Yes, try to achieve EU membership if that is what a majority of citizens want, but concentrate on improving the lives of ordinary people on a day to day basis. Learn a lesson from Greece, Spain, Portugal and others; do not spend what you do not have. As for Kosovo, it is as good as gone already but there is no need for the EU to try to embarrass Serbia further by seeking formal recognition.

Brian

pre 10 godina

Serbs have recognized kosova is independent but the government officially is still bound by he old constitution. 63% of Serbs say kosovo is independent. 3000 oppose Kosovo independence Ina rally 100,000 see Novak djokovic celebrate a tennis game win. So the idea that Serbs do not recognize and support kosova independence now is ridiculous.

1389

pre 10 godina

Kosovo and Metohija was,is and will be forever part of Serbia,Kosovo is the heart of Serbia,Serbia can not function as a state without its southern province Kosovo.
Kosovo have 1.7 million Muslims or Turks therefore is not in the Serbian interests that Kosovo now to be unified with Serbia but in the near future Serbia will take Kosovo again by war and all Muslims from Kosovo will be send to Albania,Turkey or in other places and Kosovo will be 100% Serbian as it was 5 centuries ago.
I'm skeptical with the EU integration of Serbia,if she join the EU(NATO)she will never see Kosovo nor in the dream,majority of the Serbs wherever they are they prefer Kosovo before NATO-EU.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

send this clown into the desert. with people like him in power Serbia will get nowhere.
(Willi Pfaff, 17 May 2013 15:53)
NOPE, Willy, he doesn't wish to be your roommate!
LMAO

Santo

pre 10 godina

Mr Burchard, considering what the Germans have accomplished in Europe between 1939 and 1945, and they are member of the EU, I say that the Serbs have done little in comparison during the Balkan War. They barely defended themselves against fascists and integrists. And they are the only ones singled out. This is a shame. Many have forgotten that the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2.

miles

pre 10 godina

Bam Bam and IanUK its OK for you two to be delusional, but keep it to yourselves. For the record I know you don't like hearing it but Serbs, Montenegrens and Macedonians stood up to the Nazi's, while Croats, Albanians, Slovenes and Bosnian Muslims happily joined the Nazi's for some proper genocide of Serbs, Jews, and Roma, and we are not talking about revenge attacks, terror attacks or ethnic cleansing, but real and proper systematic genocide-every man woman and child stuff. Capiche.

Michael Thomas

pre 10 godina

The EU is not worth joining at all. It is a bankrupt criminal organisation that will steal everything of value in Serbia.

The question of what to do with Kosovo is separate from the EU issue. Kosovo has trillions of euros worth of minerals, and this is why the western criminal elite want to strip it away from Serbia. Serbia should not give these assets away.

While NATO-thugs occupy Kosovo, Serbia should simply maintain the status quo and make sure that Kosovo Serbs have safety and decent lives.

When NATO disappears, as the once invincible Nazis disappeared, then Serbians and Albanians can sort out the future of Kosovo between themselves.

My guess is that with NATO gone the Albanians will be much friendlier to Serbs.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

???. Of course you can't give away something you don't have! You must first have that something in your possession & control, in order to be able to give it away! And Kosova is independent now, and has been out of Serbia's control & possession for a very long time! And, I don't see this fact changing as long as planet earth continues sustaining human life! So keep on dreaming!

rrudi

pre 10 godina

Serbians Kosovo is gone, please get this mind set in your heads. I cannot understand Nikolic's mentality. 2 million Albanians do not want to be governed by you, 130,000 Serbs want to remain with Serbia. Get the math's right. 8 million serbs held hostage by so few. Think of your children's future.Kosovo is dirt poor run by a narco-mafia who also indulge in the trafficking of women.Do you really want these people sharing your country?

Pain and gain

pre 10 godina

When someone works hard and you reward him, he'll work even harder, if you don't reward him he'll lose his desire to work. Germans should have some common sense!

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

'J': I won't be 'blocked and conditioned for decades' because I'm British not Serbian. I'm being conditioned by the Americans already!!

Joachim

pre 10 godina

"...It would be hard to get the citizens to be willing to endure something else then,” the Serbian president underscored.
WTH is he trying to say?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

actually 1389, what we really should do, is hand over Kosova to Italy. lets face it, they have far more of a historical claim to it than most. we Albanians will migrate to Turkey apparently, you Serbs migrate to Russia, or Siberia (where the Slavs originally come from) and we give Kosova back to the sons of Romans. however, you migrate first, then we'll follow you right after. if we're going to go historical here, lets not start with the Nemanjas, lets start with the Romans, they here before any Slav had even seen the Europe, never mind Kosova

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

@ get real how about you get a life .... against children and women is that what you call -albanian - bosnian - croatian extremists

Lenard

pre 10 godina

We won’t give Kosovo away, president says. Of course not but for the rite price definitively yes. The price all brain dead marionette stooges politicians get well paying dream job in the "EU" empire. As enhanced brain dead marionette stooges son of bureaucrats. This will be their theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pB7Hszs3k&list=PL2635DE2239E05756 that the dead brain marionettes can flop around to that includes Croatian dumb assess politicians.

No Mercy

pre 10 godina

So the idea that Serbs do not recognize and support kosova independence now is ridiculous.
(Brian, 17 May 2013 22:26)
That is not idea , but fact! There is no way that Serbia will recognize Kosovo as sovereign country.

ifyoucould

pre 10 godina

If you could get money and investments from the other side you would and you wouldn't wait for an EU decision to do that. The truth is you can't get mony or investments from anywhere else.

Ambivalent

pre 10 godina

Citizens despairing Nikolic?? You must be joking more likely they will be rejoicing at news of accession date collapse! I know not a single Serbian who has the slightest interest in joining the EU apart from politicians. Why introduce our politicians to another trough they can feed from there are enough parasites already in Brussels.

ivan

pre 10 godina

Something must have been discussed during the recent visit with Putin for this spineless coward to talk like this. Bravo Russia!!!!

God bless the DSS, the Radicals, Dveri, Iran, North Korea, etc....

J

pre 10 godina

'J': I won't be 'blocked and conditioned for decades' because I'm British not Serbian. I'm being conditioned by the Americans already!!
(ned taylor, 17 May 2013 16:43)

Sorry to hear that. What are we doing this time? I thought our countries were buddies.

njegos

pre 10 godina

"Germany should understand that it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide, Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says."

He added that Serbia would not "give Kosovo away".

News flash to Nikolic: You and your negotiating team of recycled communists have already given Kosovo away. Just as your communist predecessor, Slobo, gave Krajina away. The well being of the masses has never had any meaning in communist ideology. The Serbs had better get some leaders with backbones before they give away the entire country for a few euros.

koko

pre 10 godina

"it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide."

Death and horror, the Serb export still continues.


"We are not giving Kosovo away."

Self deluded lies still go on, when just days ago the same bunch were apologizing for crimes against humanity.

Michael Thomas

pre 10 godina

The EU is not worth joining at all. It is a bankrupt criminal organisation that will steal everything of value in Serbia.

The question of what to do with Kosovo is separate from the EU issue. Kosovo has trillions of euros worth of minerals, and this is why the western criminal elite want to strip it away from Serbia. Serbia should not give these assets away.

While NATO-thugs occupy Kosovo, Serbia should simply maintain the status quo and make sure that Kosovo Serbs have safety and decent lives.

When NATO disappears, as the once invincible Nazis disappeared, then Serbians and Albanians can sort out the future of Kosovo between themselves.

My guess is that with NATO gone the Albanians will be much friendlier to Serbs.

Santo

pre 10 godina

Mr Burchard, considering what the Germans have accomplished in Europe between 1939 and 1945, and they are member of the EU, I say that the Serbs have done little in comparison during the Balkan War. They barely defended themselves against fascists and integrists. And they are the only ones singled out. This is a shame. Many have forgotten that the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2.

BURCHARD

pre 10 godina

Hello I just wanted to say I am German and we Germans have nothing against you Serbs and you are very welcome to join the EU, I have visited Serbia a multiple of times and felt very welcome by the people in this beautiful and hospitable country, your country belongs to Europe of course, but you know our government is a bit picky especially in these financially difficult times, but I truly hope our government and parliament will both be fair to you when they make their decision in June, best of wishes from Frankfurt :)

Grobar1

pre 10 godina

@ get real how about you get a life .... against children and women is that what you call -albanian - bosnian - croatian extremists

1389

pre 10 godina

Kosovo and Metohija was,is and will be forever part of Serbia,Kosovo is the heart of Serbia,Serbia can not function as a state without its southern province Kosovo.
Kosovo have 1.7 million Muslims or Turks therefore is not in the Serbian interests that Kosovo now to be unified with Serbia but in the near future Serbia will take Kosovo again by war and all Muslims from Kosovo will be send to Albania,Turkey or in other places and Kosovo will be 100% Serbian as it was 5 centuries ago.
I'm skeptical with the EU integration of Serbia,if she join the EU(NATO)she will never see Kosovo nor in the dream,majority of the Serbs wherever they are they prefer Kosovo before NATO-EU.

Iden

pre 10 godina

His statements make sense this time, unlike most of the times... Germany previously said they want Serbia to abolish its institutions in Kosovo to get a date, and so it will do, so Germany should stop acting like it owns the EU! Germany is not more important than France or any other EU country. even if they are the richest...

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

The last paragraph is spot on. Yes, try to achieve EU membership if that is what a majority of citizens want, but concentrate on improving the lives of ordinary people on a day to day basis. Learn a lesson from Greece, Spain, Portugal and others; do not spend what you do not have. As for Kosovo, it is as good as gone already but there is no need for the EU to try to embarrass Serbia further by seeking formal recognition.

rrudi

pre 10 godina

Serbians Kosovo is gone, please get this mind set in your heads. I cannot understand Nikolic's mentality. 2 million Albanians do not want to be governed by you, 130,000 Serbs want to remain with Serbia. Get the math's right. 8 million serbs held hostage by so few. Think of your children's future.Kosovo is dirt poor run by a narco-mafia who also indulge in the trafficking of women.Do you really want these people sharing your country?

miles

pre 10 godina

Bam Bam and IanUK its OK for you two to be delusional, but keep it to yourselves. For the record I know you don't like hearing it but Serbs, Montenegrens and Macedonians stood up to the Nazi's, while Croats, Albanians, Slovenes and Bosnian Muslims happily joined the Nazi's for some proper genocide of Serbs, Jews, and Roma, and we are not talking about revenge attacks, terror attacks or ethnic cleansing, but real and proper systematic genocide-every man woman and child stuff. Capiche.

Rocky

pre 10 godina

???. Of course you can't give away something you don't have! You must first have that something in your possession & control, in order to be able to give it away! And Kosova is independent now, and has been out of Serbia's control & possession for a very long time! And, I don't see this fact changing as long as planet earth continues sustaining human life! So keep on dreaming!

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

Hitler or no Hitler Nikolic has to realise that Germany is god in Europe. The Serbs will do as they are told or they will be eating dinner in Beograd soup kitchens. Listen to the Germans as they are your father now. Mother Russia is becoming more and more like an "adopted" brother.

Pain and gain

pre 10 godina

When someone works hard and you reward him, he'll work even harder, if you don't reward him he'll lose his desire to work. Germans should have some common sense!

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

"We won’t give Kosovo away, president says"

I agree with him for two reasons.

1. You don't have Kosovo, therefore you can't give away what you don't have.

2. Kosovo isn't his to give away.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

put it this way Michael Thomas, Serbia is far more corrupt, bankrupt and criminal than the EU. and by the way, if the EU is not worth joining, I don't understand why Serbian voters, keep electing parties who want in on the EU. face it, you want to join

Brian

pre 10 godina

Serbs have recognized kosova is independent but the government officially is still bound by he old constitution. 63% of Serbs say kosovo is independent. 3000 oppose Kosovo independence Ina rally 100,000 see Novak djokovic celebrate a tennis game win. So the idea that Serbs do not recognize and support kosova independence now is ridiculous.

ForeverTwoWheels

pre 10 godina

My president you are correct! Now it is timwe for patriots to come home and sacrifice for our people. The diaspora can no longer hide behind words......it is time for the diaspora to come bacvk to serbia and do what must be done........run germany.....run

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

Many have forgotten that the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2.
(Santo, 17 May 2013 13:52)

You have made a highly inaccurate and false statement. I don't even understand how World War Two relates to this news article.

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

If Slovakia,Spain Greece etc said Yes they will change the position cosidering recognision of Kosovo after the agreement was sign in Brussel,and now they are still saying NO siding with Serbia,Germany and pro Kosovo allies should play the same game.
They said Yes to Serbia and now should say NO.
So instead of a win-win situation as we hoped for Kosovo and Serbia we will have a lose-lose situation for both coutries because Serbia wants so.
Let it be!We waited 100 years to get Kosovo out of Serbia rule, we can wait several more years.

cry me a river

pre 10 godina

Bam Bam and IanUK its OK for you two to be delusional, but keep it to yourselves. For the record I know you don't like hearing it but Serbs, Montenegrens and Macedonians stood up to the Nazi's, while Croats, Albanians, Slovenes and Bosnian Muslims happily joined the Nazi's for some proper genocide of Serbs, Jews, and Roma, and we are not talking about revenge attacks, terror attacks or ethnic cleansing, but real and proper systematic genocide-every man woman and child stuff. Capiche.
(miles

Is it possible that such ignorant people still exist in this day and age?!
Do they have internet in Serbia?
Do people have access to unbiased news there?

J

pre 10 godina

" As for Kosovo, it is as good as gone already but there is no need for the EU to try to embarrass Serbia further by seeking formal recognition."

-- Ned, it will come with time. Give it another 20 years. Serbia hasn't come to the realization that formally recognizing Kosova is in its best interest. They will with time. There is no way an open conflict helps Serbia. And That will stall Serbia's progress like it has for decades. Kosova on the other side started from below zero after the war and even though conflict doesn't help it can only grow, at least until it reaches a certain level. There are still decades of growth ahead. Serbia in a way becomes Kosova's hostage even though your politicians think that by keeping Kosova out of the UN you are keeping it as hostage. That would work if we had no western support and depended on our survival on some third world eastern country. We have shown that it is possible to be independent of Serbia and make it only with western support and no UN membership. We can go like this for decades. Are you ready to be blocked and conditioned for decades because of Kosova and the mirage that one day you will be overloading the Albanians there which constitute more tha 95% of the population.

Zoran

pre 10 godina

LOL! Nikolić sounding all big but he is the biggest sell-out there is. Actions speak louder than words but there will be none from this fool. Both SNS and DS have proven to be full of traitors. I don't think Serbs will be buying this c***

get real

pre 10 godina

considering what the Germans have accomplished in Europe between 1939 and 1945, and they are member of the EU, I say that the Serbs have done little in comparison during the Balkan War. They barely defended themselves against fascists and integrists.
(Santo, 17 May 2013 13:52)

Defending yourself against children and women?

Crimes of Serbia in Kosovo 1998-1999
According to the data collected in Kosovo, from January 1998 until June 12, 1999 there have been 12 843 victims of Albanian nationality, out of which 1 741 were women.

Crimes of Serbia against children in Kosovo
From January until June 12, 1999, 1 396 children under the age of 18 or over 11% of the total number of dead people in Kosovo, have disappeared or been killed.

Captain America

pre 10 godina

"We won’t give Kosovo away, president says."

Imagine a book slamming onto the top of a desk in a classroom making a very loud bang!

Now, I have your attention. You guys already signed away Kosova with the agreement! What Nikolic is doing is running his mouth to make everyone feel better. However, running your mouth and fighting for Kosova are two different things. The signing of the agreement was the final nail in the proverbial coffin of Serbia's "fight" to retain Kosova.

Serb policemen will look very sharp in Kosovar police uniforms and Kosovar police vehicles!

Ian, UK

pre 10 godina

@ Miles

I thought Santos's comment was daft because he said "the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2".

He missed out the UK, the USSR, the USA, France, Poland, China, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Mexico, most of Central America, Philippines, Mongolia, other British and French colonies and many many many more.

That is why it is ridiculous to say that "the Serbs are the only ones sho stood up against fascism during WW2".

I know the Serbs "stood up against fascism during WW2" and fought for the Yugoslav Partisans and Royalist-Chetniks against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Bulgaria, Serbian Government of National Salvation, Hungary and the Independent State of Croatia.

Why wouldn't I want to hear about it?

Yes some Croats, Bosniaks, Slovens, Albanians ect to collaborate with the Nazis, whilst others didn't. The same applies to Serbs too. The Chetniks fought against and collaborated with everyone, especially after they lost western support to the Yugoslav Partisans. Every heard of the Serbian State Guard or the Serbian Volunteer Corps?

But like I said, WW2 has nothing to do with this article and I think people like you need to get over it. You weren't around during WW2 and your parents were most likely not around then either, or at least too young to remember it. Stop banging on about it. It is an unhealthy obsession.

too funny

pre 10 godina

ForeverTwoWheels, 17 May 2013 12:14),
Most nearly all the diasporia fled Serbia because they wanted a better life than the dismal one that faced them there. Now you think these same people are going to uproot their families to fight a war for a chance to return to the dismal future they just escaped. Dude you are too funny, Run Germany run, indeed.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

send this clown into the desert. with people like him in power Serbia will get nowhere.
(Willi Pfaff, 17 May 2013 15:53)
NOPE, Willy, he doesn't wish to be your roommate!
LMAO

Lenard

pre 10 godina

We won’t give Kosovo away, president says. Of course not but for the rite price definitively yes. The price all brain dead marionette stooges politicians get well paying dream job in the "EU" empire. As enhanced brain dead marionette stooges son of bureaucrats. This will be their theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pB7Hszs3k&list=PL2635DE2239E05756 that the dead brain marionettes can flop around to that includes Croatian dumb assess politicians.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

actually 1389, what we really should do, is hand over Kosova to Italy. lets face it, they have far more of a historical claim to it than most. we Albanians will migrate to Turkey apparently, you Serbs migrate to Russia, or Siberia (where the Slavs originally come from) and we give Kosova back to the sons of Romans. however, you migrate first, then we'll follow you right after. if we're going to go historical here, lets not start with the Nemanjas, lets start with the Romans, they here before any Slav had even seen the Europe, never mind Kosova

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

'J': I won't be 'blocked and conditioned for decades' because I'm British not Serbian. I'm being conditioned by the Americans already!!

No Mercy

pre 10 godina

So the idea that Serbs do not recognize and support kosova independence now is ridiculous.
(Brian, 17 May 2013 22:26)
That is not idea , but fact! There is no way that Serbia will recognize Kosovo as sovereign country.

ivan

pre 10 godina

Something must have been discussed during the recent visit with Putin for this spineless coward to talk like this. Bravo Russia!!!!

God bless the DSS, the Radicals, Dveri, Iran, North Korea, etc....

winston

pre 10 godina

My president you are correct! Now it is timwe for patriots to come home and sacrifice for our people. The diaspora can no longer hide behind words......it is time for the diaspora to come bacvk to Serbia and do what must be done (ForeverTwoWheels)
My president, sound like Mein Führer. As for Serbian diaspora coming back to Serbia, I don't think so, not yet. Serbian politicians, including Mein president, have brought Serbia to the brink of extinction, physically, economically, spiritually, you name it. They ruined the country. There is still very little left to come back to, and getting worse. And "we will give away Kosovo", Mr. Toma Diploma, I don't think it yours to keep anymore. Formal recognition, words, is all that is left. I, as a Serb/Montenegrin in the diaspora, am really tired of this political tug of war that Serb politicians are playing with Kosovo. If they were so intent on preserving it as a province, IMHO, they would have used different tactics in the past, than what they did.

Ambivalent

pre 10 godina

Citizens despairing Nikolic?? You must be joking more likely they will be rejoicing at news of accession date collapse! I know not a single Serbian who has the slightest interest in joining the EU apart from politicians. Why introduce our politicians to another trough they can feed from there are enough parasites already in Brussels.

J

pre 10 godina

'J': I won't be 'blocked and conditioned for decades' because I'm British not Serbian. I'm being conditioned by the Americans already!!
(ned taylor, 17 May 2013 16:43)

Sorry to hear that. What are we doing this time? I thought our countries were buddies.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

"...It would be hard to get the citizens to be willing to endure something else then,” the Serbian president underscored.
WTH is he trying to say?

njegos

pre 10 godina

"Germany should understand that it is no use trying to blackmail us into slitting our wrists or committing suicide, Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says."

He added that Serbia would not "give Kosovo away".

News flash to Nikolic: You and your negotiating team of recycled communists have already given Kosovo away. Just as your communist predecessor, Slobo, gave Krajina away. The well being of the masses has never had any meaning in communist ideology. The Serbs had better get some leaders with backbones before they give away the entire country for a few euros.

ifyoucould

pre 10 godina

If you could get money and investments from the other side you would and you wouldn't wait for an EU decision to do that. The truth is you can't get mony or investments from anywhere else.