Amer
pre 11 godina
Here's the ad we're seeing on U.S. TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKUrYf1z9Bg - maybe it will lighten the mood around here. (Geez, what a bunch of grumps showed up today.)
Friday, 10.05.2013.
11:52
Serbian Finance and Economy Ministry’s State Secretary Aleksandar Ljubić said on Friday that, after many years, Serbia started exporting cars to the U.S.
Izvor: Tanjug
pre 11 godina
Here's the ad we're seeing on U.S. TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKUrYf1z9Bg - maybe it will lighten the mood around here. (Geez, what a bunch of grumps showed up today.)
pre 11 godina
No idea what you're talking about Comm. Kosova's laws and ministers have to meet the approval of our EU masters, so if anyone is allowing criminals to flourish, it's the EU. p.s. and no, we haven't exported war criminals, unlike our heavenly brothers
pre 11 godina
"There's other things Serbia has exported, like war Criminals languishing in Hague prisons. In fact, its the nuber two exporter in that, behind Nazi Germany"
(Nikolle, 10 May 2013 15:43)
Unlike Kosovo, which doesn't export its criminals, but even attracts all sort of criminals and dubious figures from countries to come (back) to this nice, lawless place where they don't have to fear to be arrested. Instead they might be rewarded to become 'ministers' in this government if they have enough dirty money, like Mr. P...i
pre 11 godina
He also stated that "15,000 young people" had left the country in 2012."
[link]
15000 young ones in one year!!! Croatia is paradise...except to its own people.
One more tning, how many of those fancy sportscars do Croatia sell per year? 1, 2? Yes I can see that manufakturing this car is feeding half of Croatias allready wealthy population. Every other European is driving one. Ha ha ha! What a guy!
(MikeC, 10 May 2013 19:28) MikeC why all this unpleasantry. A never mind politicians they will say anything for a vote. Yes Croatian young are leaving like my two cousins one to Texas to study engineering and another to Switzerland something to do with aviation studies. Then you have others returning back to beautiful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hCazYqft-Y&NR=1 Croatia with different degrees but thank you for your concern. I hope Fiat 500 sells well a lot of the components are manufactured in Croatia for it. The Super car 20 to 30 a year. The Docking XD as many as their is a demand in the market for them. Especially when gas prices get very expensive.
pre 11 godina
Sheldon we Croatians are making modern Super cars [link] not dinosaur cars that are even powered by remains of dinosaurs. Funny thing it is being bought by Gulf States Sheiks do the know something. Here is a another modern in production 100% Croatian [link] manufactured car the Docking electric car.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 17:53)
Well Lenard if you think concept cars are impressive then you should think again, there are plenty of 100% Serbian concept cars, example: the Exona concept car http://www.autoevolution.com/news/exona-concept-car-comes-from-serbia-51046.html the real challenge is funding, profitability, success and export, which will NEVER be achieved by either Serbian or Croatian concept cars simply because both countries don't have a reputation in world markets in automotive industry, but maybe if the old Zastava cars were invested in they could been successful, yet Zastava still manufactures buses and lorries that you lot heads buy!
pre 11 godina
It would have been much better if Serbia could have attracted VW or Toyota or Honda to manufacture cars there but time will tell if Fiat can compete in the developed markets with their models.As far as Lenard is concerned he probably drives a BMW like I do so any other car is not worthy of competing with the "Ultimate driving machine".Shalom
pre 11 godina
Nikolle
You say one of Serbias main export is sending people to the Hague. Well, if I was in charge I wouldn't "export" one singel Serbian hero to this anti-serb institution set up by Serbias enemies.
pre 11 godina
Lenard
Yes, Croatia is the dominant power in the balkans...according to you. However, according to your own politicians Croatia closer to the status of Albania.
"He also stated that "15,000 young people" had left the country in 2012."
http://www6.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=05&dd=07&nav_id=86051
15000 young ones in one year!!! Croatia is paradise...except to its own people.
One more tning, how many of those fancy sportscars do Croatia sell per year? 1, 2? Yes I can see that manufakturing this car is feeding half of Croatias allready wealthy population. Every other European is driving one. Ha ha ha! What a guy!
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars [link] in the Roman circuses.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 13:03)
You are right about the back seat Lenard. That keen observation is not surprising coming from a little short Croat.
pre 11 godina
"Interesting that the first thing you criticize is the size of back seats. Is that where you are usually driven?"
(Johnny Dacshund, 10 May 2013 16:47)
I don't want to speculate about the activities you need a big back seat for ... or, better said, about the people who need a big back seat for those activities :)
pre 11 godina
Sheldon we Croatians are making modern Super cars http://money.cnn.com/video/pf/2012/09/06/wheels-electric-supercar-croatia-rimac.cnnmoney/index.html not dinosaur cars that are even powered by remains of dinosaurs. Funny thing it is being bought by Gulf States Sheiks do the know something. Here is a another modern in production 100% Croatian http://www.croatia.org/crown/articles/9974/1/Sensational-Croatian-electric-car-launched-at-the-Geneva-Motor-Show-2010.html manufactured car the Docking electric car.
pre 11 godina
lenard, i'm confused. since croatia is lodged between serbia and italy, and as you say fiat is good enough in those countries, then what is it that croatians drive? all of a sudden croatia, a soon to be inferior player in eu is to outclass italy, one of the bedrock nations of the eu? sure.
but for your sake, i would suggest you buy up all the prosek you can get your little hands on. see once croatia joins eu, italy, those poor fools who drive fiats, will block the production and sales within eu of prosek.
eu is good for croatia. many lost jobs, now losing who branches of economy. you'd better hope the fiats are sold in croatia soon. otherwise you might be looking to india to supply your cars.
pre 11 godina
What kind of car is Serbia going to export to the US?
I hope B92 is not talking about Fiat cars.
That's like saying Mexico is going to export Chrysler cars to the US!
(are you kidding me, 10 May 2013 14:35)
The article mentions it, of course FIAT cars, FIAT is the only car factory in Serbia, besides some vans and assembly of buses with European components or chassis.
And yes, it is like saying Mexico exports Chrysler cars to the US. Did you grow up in good old commie times that you still think states own car factories, produce and export cars? If you talk about Chinese exports, for example, it's clear that exports of goods made by factories in China are meant.
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars [link] in the Roman circuses.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 13:03)
Interesting that the first thing you criticize is the size of back seats. Is that where you are usually driven?
pre 11 godina
Are you kidding me
Lenard
A jealous croat and an even more jealous albanian. Whether this car will be popular on the americsn market only time sill tell but at least Serbia has something to export. Then again so do croats, who export second class weapons to contribute to the killing of civilians in Syria. And albanians who's only export is a majority of its uneducated and backward population and heroin.
pre 11 godina
The pretty Polish-built Fiat 500 is too small for Americans to squeeze their blubber into. The Serbian-built 500L (L for Large) is also probably too small for Yankee backsides.
To break into the American market, Fiat will need to bring out the 500XL.
pre 11 godina
MikeC
There's other things Serbia has exported, like war Criminals languishing in Hague prisons. In fact, its the nuber two exporter in that, behind Nazi Germany
pre 11 godina
Lenard, these 500s will go like hotcakes. Smaller cars are becoming a status symbol in the United States due to the popularity of Minis, "New" Bugs, and smart cars. Where it is true that the current target demographic for this type of vehicle remains predominantly female, I believe mere 3000 cars a month is under the market (affordable Mini version) demand.
pre 11 godina
"Serbia starts exporting cars to U.S."
What kind of car is Serbia going to export to the US?
I hope B92 is not talking about Fiat cars.
That's like saying Mexico is going to export Chrysler cars to the US!
I guess any news in Serbia is good news. Even if it's BS.
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars http://britandgrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/clown-car.jpg in the Roman circuses.
pre 11 godina
Are you kidding me
Lenard
A jealous croat and an even more jealous albanian. Whether this car will be popular on the americsn market only time sill tell but at least Serbia has something to export. Then again so do croats, who export second class weapons to contribute to the killing of civilians in Syria. And albanians who's only export is a majority of its uneducated and backward population and heroin.
pre 11 godina
The pretty Polish-built Fiat 500 is too small for Americans to squeeze their blubber into. The Serbian-built 500L (L for Large) is also probably too small for Yankee backsides.
To break into the American market, Fiat will need to bring out the 500XL.
pre 11 godina
Lenard, these 500s will go like hotcakes. Smaller cars are becoming a status symbol in the United States due to the popularity of Minis, "New" Bugs, and smart cars. Where it is true that the current target demographic for this type of vehicle remains predominantly female, I believe mere 3000 cars a month is under the market (affordable Mini version) demand.
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars [link] in the Roman circuses.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 13:03)
Interesting that the first thing you criticize is the size of back seats. Is that where you are usually driven?
pre 11 godina
What kind of car is Serbia going to export to the US?
I hope B92 is not talking about Fiat cars.
That's like saying Mexico is going to export Chrysler cars to the US!
(are you kidding me, 10 May 2013 14:35)
The article mentions it, of course FIAT cars, FIAT is the only car factory in Serbia, besides some vans and assembly of buses with European components or chassis.
And yes, it is like saying Mexico exports Chrysler cars to the US. Did you grow up in good old commie times that you still think states own car factories, produce and export cars? If you talk about Chinese exports, for example, it's clear that exports of goods made by factories in China are meant.
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars http://britandgrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/clown-car.jpg in the Roman circuses.
pre 11 godina
"Serbia starts exporting cars to U.S."
What kind of car is Serbia going to export to the US?
I hope B92 is not talking about Fiat cars.
That's like saying Mexico is going to export Chrysler cars to the US!
I guess any news in Serbia is good news. Even if it's BS.
pre 11 godina
lenard, i'm confused. since croatia is lodged between serbia and italy, and as you say fiat is good enough in those countries, then what is it that croatians drive? all of a sudden croatia, a soon to be inferior player in eu is to outclass italy, one of the bedrock nations of the eu? sure.
but for your sake, i would suggest you buy up all the prosek you can get your little hands on. see once croatia joins eu, italy, those poor fools who drive fiats, will block the production and sales within eu of prosek.
eu is good for croatia. many lost jobs, now losing who branches of economy. you'd better hope the fiats are sold in croatia soon. otherwise you might be looking to india to supply your cars.
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars [link] in the Roman circuses.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 13:03)
You are right about the back seat Lenard. That keen observation is not surprising coming from a little short Croat.
pre 11 godina
Lenard
Yes, Croatia is the dominant power in the balkans...according to you. However, according to your own politicians Croatia closer to the status of Albania.
"He also stated that "15,000 young people" had left the country in 2012."
http://www6.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=05&dd=07&nav_id=86051
15000 young ones in one year!!! Croatia is paradise...except to its own people.
One more tning, how many of those fancy sportscars do Croatia sell per year? 1, 2? Yes I can see that manufakturing this car is feeding half of Croatias allready wealthy population. Every other European is driving one. Ha ha ha! What a guy!
pre 11 godina
Nikolle
You say one of Serbias main export is sending people to the Hague. Well, if I was in charge I wouldn't "export" one singel Serbian hero to this anti-serb institution set up by Serbias enemies.
pre 11 godina
Sheldon we Croatians are making modern Super cars [link] not dinosaur cars that are even powered by remains of dinosaurs. Funny thing it is being bought by Gulf States Sheiks do the know something. Here is a another modern in production 100% Croatian [link] manufactured car the Docking electric car.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 17:53)
Well Lenard if you think concept cars are impressive then you should think again, there are plenty of 100% Serbian concept cars, example: the Exona concept car http://www.autoevolution.com/news/exona-concept-car-comes-from-serbia-51046.html the real challenge is funding, profitability, success and export, which will NEVER be achieved by either Serbian or Croatian concept cars simply because both countries don't have a reputation in world markets in automotive industry, but maybe if the old Zastava cars were invested in they could been successful, yet Zastava still manufactures buses and lorries that you lot heads buy!
pre 11 godina
MikeC
There's other things Serbia has exported, like war Criminals languishing in Hague prisons. In fact, its the nuber two exporter in that, behind Nazi Germany
pre 11 godina
"Interesting that the first thing you criticize is the size of back seats. Is that where you are usually driven?"
(Johnny Dacshund, 10 May 2013 16:47)
I don't want to speculate about the activities you need a big back seat for ... or, better said, about the people who need a big back seat for those activities :)
pre 11 godina
Sheldon we Croatians are making modern Super cars http://money.cnn.com/video/pf/2012/09/06/wheels-electric-supercar-croatia-rimac.cnnmoney/index.html not dinosaur cars that are even powered by remains of dinosaurs. Funny thing it is being bought by Gulf States Sheiks do the know something. Here is a another modern in production 100% Croatian http://www.croatia.org/crown/articles/9974/1/Sensational-Croatian-electric-car-launched-at-the-Geneva-Motor-Show-2010.html manufactured car the Docking electric car.
pre 11 godina
It would have been much better if Serbia could have attracted VW or Toyota or Honda to manufacture cars there but time will tell if Fiat can compete in the developed markets with their models.As far as Lenard is concerned he probably drives a BMW like I do so any other car is not worthy of competing with the "Ultimate driving machine".Shalom
pre 11 godina
"There's other things Serbia has exported, like war Criminals languishing in Hague prisons. In fact, its the nuber two exporter in that, behind Nazi Germany"
(Nikolle, 10 May 2013 15:43)
Unlike Kosovo, which doesn't export its criminals, but even attracts all sort of criminals and dubious figures from countries to come (back) to this nice, lawless place where they don't have to fear to be arrested. Instead they might be rewarded to become 'ministers' in this government if they have enough dirty money, like Mr. P...i
pre 11 godina
He also stated that "15,000 young people" had left the country in 2012."
[link]
15000 young ones in one year!!! Croatia is paradise...except to its own people.
One more tning, how many of those fancy sportscars do Croatia sell per year? 1, 2? Yes I can see that manufakturing this car is feeding half of Croatias allready wealthy population. Every other European is driving one. Ha ha ha! What a guy!
(MikeC, 10 May 2013 19:28) MikeC why all this unpleasantry. A never mind politicians they will say anything for a vote. Yes Croatian young are leaving like my two cousins one to Texas to study engineering and another to Switzerland something to do with aviation studies. Then you have others returning back to beautiful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hCazYqft-Y&NR=1 Croatia with different degrees but thank you for your concern. I hope Fiat 500 sells well a lot of the components are manufactured in Croatia for it. The Super car 20 to 30 a year. The Docking XD as many as their is a demand in the market for them. Especially when gas prices get very expensive.
pre 11 godina
Here's the ad we're seeing on U.S. TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKUrYf1z9Bg - maybe it will lighten the mood around here. (Geez, what a bunch of grumps showed up today.)
pre 11 godina
No idea what you're talking about Comm. Kosova's laws and ministers have to meet the approval of our EU masters, so if anyone is allowing criminals to flourish, it's the EU. p.s. and no, we haven't exported war criminals, unlike our heavenly brothers
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars http://britandgrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/clown-car.jpg in the Roman circuses.
pre 11 godina
"Serbia starts exporting cars to U.S."
What kind of car is Serbia going to export to the US?
I hope B92 is not talking about Fiat cars.
That's like saying Mexico is going to export Chrysler cars to the US!
I guess any news in Serbia is good news. Even if it's BS.
pre 11 godina
MikeC
There's other things Serbia has exported, like war Criminals languishing in Hague prisons. In fact, its the nuber two exporter in that, behind Nazi Germany
pre 11 godina
Are you kidding me
Lenard
A jealous croat and an even more jealous albanian. Whether this car will be popular on the americsn market only time sill tell but at least Serbia has something to export. Then again so do croats, who export second class weapons to contribute to the killing of civilians in Syria. And albanians who's only export is a majority of its uneducated and backward population and heroin.
pre 11 godina
Sheldon we Croatians are making modern Super cars http://money.cnn.com/video/pf/2012/09/06/wheels-electric-supercar-croatia-rimac.cnnmoney/index.html not dinosaur cars that are even powered by remains of dinosaurs. Funny thing it is being bought by Gulf States Sheiks do the know something. Here is a another modern in production 100% Croatian http://www.croatia.org/crown/articles/9974/1/Sensational-Croatian-electric-car-launched-at-the-Geneva-Motor-Show-2010.html manufactured car the Docking electric car.
pre 11 godina
He also stated that "15,000 young people" had left the country in 2012."
[link]
15000 young ones in one year!!! Croatia is paradise...except to its own people.
One more tning, how many of those fancy sportscars do Croatia sell per year? 1, 2? Yes I can see that manufakturing this car is feeding half of Croatias allready wealthy population. Every other European is driving one. Ha ha ha! What a guy!
(MikeC, 10 May 2013 19:28) MikeC why all this unpleasantry. A never mind politicians they will say anything for a vote. Yes Croatian young are leaving like my two cousins one to Texas to study engineering and another to Switzerland something to do with aviation studies. Then you have others returning back to beautiful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hCazYqft-Y&NR=1 Croatia with different degrees but thank you for your concern. I hope Fiat 500 sells well a lot of the components are manufactured in Croatia for it. The Super car 20 to 30 a year. The Docking XD as many as their is a demand in the market for them. Especially when gas prices get very expensive.
pre 11 godina
No idea what you're talking about Comm. Kosova's laws and ministers have to meet the approval of our EU masters, so if anyone is allowing criminals to flourish, it's the EU. p.s. and no, we haven't exported war criminals, unlike our heavenly brothers
pre 11 godina
The pretty Polish-built Fiat 500 is too small for Americans to squeeze their blubber into. The Serbian-built 500L (L for Large) is also probably too small for Yankee backsides.
To break into the American market, Fiat will need to bring out the 500XL.
pre 11 godina
lenard, i'm confused. since croatia is lodged between serbia and italy, and as you say fiat is good enough in those countries, then what is it that croatians drive? all of a sudden croatia, a soon to be inferior player in eu is to outclass italy, one of the bedrock nations of the eu? sure.
but for your sake, i would suggest you buy up all the prosek you can get your little hands on. see once croatia joins eu, italy, those poor fools who drive fiats, will block the production and sales within eu of prosek.
eu is good for croatia. many lost jobs, now losing who branches of economy. you'd better hope the fiats are sold in croatia soon. otherwise you might be looking to india to supply your cars.
pre 11 godina
"There's other things Serbia has exported, like war Criminals languishing in Hague prisons. In fact, its the nuber two exporter in that, behind Nazi Germany"
(Nikolle, 10 May 2013 15:43)
Unlike Kosovo, which doesn't export its criminals, but even attracts all sort of criminals and dubious figures from countries to come (back) to this nice, lawless place where they don't have to fear to be arrested. Instead they might be rewarded to become 'ministers' in this government if they have enough dirty money, like Mr. P...i
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars [link] in the Roman circuses.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 13:03)
Interesting that the first thing you criticize is the size of back seats. Is that where you are usually driven?
pre 11 godina
Lenard
Yes, Croatia is the dominant power in the balkans...according to you. However, according to your own politicians Croatia closer to the status of Albania.
"He also stated that "15,000 young people" had left the country in 2012."
http://www6.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=05&dd=07&nav_id=86051
15000 young ones in one year!!! Croatia is paradise...except to its own people.
One more tning, how many of those fancy sportscars do Croatia sell per year? 1, 2? Yes I can see that manufakturing this car is feeding half of Croatias allready wealthy population. Every other European is driving one. Ha ha ha! What a guy!
pre 11 godina
Sheldon we Croatians are making modern Super cars [link] not dinosaur cars that are even powered by remains of dinosaurs. Funny thing it is being bought by Gulf States Sheiks do the know something. Here is a another modern in production 100% Croatian [link] manufactured car the Docking electric car.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 17:53)
Well Lenard if you think concept cars are impressive then you should think again, there are plenty of 100% Serbian concept cars, example: the Exona concept car http://www.autoevolution.com/news/exona-concept-car-comes-from-serbia-51046.html the real challenge is funding, profitability, success and export, which will NEVER be achieved by either Serbian or Croatian concept cars simply because both countries don't have a reputation in world markets in automotive industry, but maybe if the old Zastava cars were invested in they could been successful, yet Zastava still manufactures buses and lorries that you lot heads buy!
pre 11 godina
Lenard, these 500s will go like hotcakes. Smaller cars are becoming a status symbol in the United States due to the popularity of Minis, "New" Bugs, and smart cars. Where it is true that the current target demographic for this type of vehicle remains predominantly female, I believe mere 3000 cars a month is under the market (affordable Mini version) demand.
pre 11 godina
What kind of car is Serbia going to export to the US?
I hope B92 is not talking about Fiat cars.
That's like saying Mexico is going to export Chrysler cars to the US!
(are you kidding me, 10 May 2013 14:35)
The article mentions it, of course FIAT cars, FIAT is the only car factory in Serbia, besides some vans and assembly of buses with European components or chassis.
And yes, it is like saying Mexico exports Chrysler cars to the US. Did you grow up in good old commie times that you still think states own car factories, produce and export cars? If you talk about Chinese exports, for example, it's clear that exports of goods made by factories in China are meant.
pre 11 godina
Good luck selling it in the U.S. with the 1950's styling did you see the back seats lucky if you can put a chiwawa back their. Ataman how dose it go again o ya FIAT Fix It Again Tony. Its a good car for Serbs and Italians like those clown cars [link] in the Roman circuses.
(Lenard, 10 May 2013 13:03)
You are right about the back seat Lenard. That keen observation is not surprising coming from a little short Croat.
pre 11 godina
Nikolle
You say one of Serbias main export is sending people to the Hague. Well, if I was in charge I wouldn't "export" one singel Serbian hero to this anti-serb institution set up by Serbias enemies.
pre 11 godina
Here's the ad we're seeing on U.S. TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKUrYf1z9Bg - maybe it will lighten the mood around here. (Geez, what a bunch of grumps showed up today.)
pre 11 godina
"Interesting that the first thing you criticize is the size of back seats. Is that where you are usually driven?"
(Johnny Dacshund, 10 May 2013 16:47)
I don't want to speculate about the activities you need a big back seat for ... or, better said, about the people who need a big back seat for those activities :)
pre 11 godina
It would have been much better if Serbia could have attracted VW or Toyota or Honda to manufacture cars there but time will tell if Fiat can compete in the developed markets with their models.As far as Lenard is concerned he probably drives a BMW like I do so any other car is not worthy of competing with the "Ultimate driving machine".Shalom
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