PM believes "majority of citizens" don't want referendum

Firstly, this government does not have the mandate to accept such an ultimatum from the EU/US/NATO, which is both anti-constitutional and anti-Serbian. We have suffered throughout history by fascists and have always resisted to eventually defeat it! This time is no different.

We can see they are involved in continual murder, violence and genocide of Serbian people and we must continue to resist and fight it peacefully. We cannot, under any circumstances, unite with such evil otherwise we will becoming it.

So whatever the result of a referendum, it must remain unconditional, so the Serbs in KiM have the option to secede if necessary. The EU/US/NATO and their NGOs will meddle in such a referendum extensively, so we cannot condition anything to such manipulation. Surrendering is not an option.

Dacic is simply repeating the propaganda we have been hearing from Albanians for some time now. Time to reject the EU and their immature ultimatums permanently.

What a great shame it has come to this. There was an opportunity to bring lasting peace to the region but the ego of some nations just couldn't see it. Whenever Germany takes the helm of Europe, it always ends up destroying it. Time to put an end to it.

No little man. You don’t want a referendum because you will lose and imagine all those solid gold goodies you will miss out on. Tadic 1 failed and now little Ivica you want bring on Tadic 2 to succeed.
My tubby friend you have absolutely no choice but to hold the referendum. You need unanimous support and since you don’t have that it’s off to the booths.
What most Serbs in Serbia are seeing for the first time is a phenomena that has been going on for decades in the west – no matter who you vote in they are simply a continuation of the last lot of ratbag polices.
However there is a solution to that disease. You vote for a party and if they do not adhere to their announced polices out they go in 3 years time, no excuses. Very soon you get the politicians you not only want but need to run the country.

“... This referedum is also delaying and putting off potential investors from the EU...”
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 29 April 2013 11:27)
Not true because if there is money to be made, and in Serbia there is plenty of opportunity, western businessmen will deal with anyone. It’s a myth perpetrated by some Serb politicians who work for Brussels.
Hey if your theory was correct then Bulgaria and Romania would be awash with industry and not one of the poorest in Europe.

Dačić asserted he was "neither in favour nor against" the holding of the referendum, and warned that if the agreement "fell" in this way, his government would see the same fate.

B92

Of course he'e against the referendum thus his warning about the fate of his government.It doesn't surprise me in the least with his comments,that's precisely what the Emperors Barroso and Van Rompuy told him to say.Any inherently undemocratic entity like the EU has always been against public opinion.

No doubt I will be mocked for saying it but the revival of the Roman Empire (i.e EU) is prophesied in the Bible (you can read of it in Daniel and Revelation).
There will be an EU Empire and it will be a dictatorship. You can see it happening today - there is no stopping it even if there are a few hiccups on the way.

What is so frustrating and perplexing for ordinary people is trying to discern from where the political counter-attack will come, and led by whom? In particular, how has the entire European political class become so inveigled by the monster that is the European Union; by the tyranny of the Lisbon Treaty? How did it get to this? Just look at those poor Greeks,Spanish,Cypriots,Irish,and Portuguese, today. Why are we are not screaming "Stop this now!" from the rooftops?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle"'Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents', Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

I don't want to see Serbia suffer for the sake of nationalism.
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 29 April 2013 11:27)
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So it's nationalism when you protect the borders of your country.
Just keep quiet. You are not fooling anyone.
You belong with Dacic on the scrap heap.

Hey if your theory was correct then Bulgaria and Romania would be awash with industry and not one of the poorest in Europe.
(sj, 29 April 2013 12:18)

What is it you recently said? You only look at balance sheets? Well lets look at Bulgaria's and Romania's economy since they joined the EU.

GDP Per Capita (Nominal):
Bulgaria = $5,116 (2006) and $7,187 (2011)
Romania = $7,352 (2006) and $8,853 (2011)

GDP Per Capita (PPP):
Bulgaria = $10,022 (2006) and $13,149 (2010)
Romania = $10,125 (2006) and $12,078 (2010)

Bulgaria's and Romania's economy have significantly grown since joing the EU and they're more economically advanced than Serbia.

Should your govt fall at this time it will take decades for Serbia to come close to where they are today. I am sure you do not care as with most on this forum are safely in other countries and will not feel the misery.
(think about it, 29 April 2013 15:42)

Why would it take Serbia decades for it to "get back" to where it is today if the current gov't falls? Why, because of not getting EU candidacy? That would not set Serbia back at all because its a myth that any country needs to join the EU in order to see investments and wealth. That is a completely internal matter and has more to do with taxes, bureaucracy and corruption more than it has to do with signing illegal and unrealistic agreements with occupiers to give up sovereign land.

This referendum is a waste of public money and could be put to better use. This referedum is also delaying and putting off potential investors from the EU. I understand that this deal was not an easy agreement to make however I don't want to see Serbia suffer for the sake of nationalism.

If he feels most people don't want it,than it should pass buy a large number "FOR".He also says it will divide the people,thay are already divided those who support and those who don't,. It would be the same if you held a peferendem or not.It's to late to worry about the people being divided. The politicians should have thought of that before, instead of pitting the people against one another. The politicians were more concerned to make Brussels and Washington happy than Serbs!

As Abraham Lincoln said...A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND!

The other 93% in Serbian Parliament are sick and tired of KS and their nonsense extremist position. Kosovo Serbs have made a big mistake by abandoning Dacic and Vucic and going all in with Kostunica.
(BalkanUpdate, 29 April 2013 13:29)

That's okay because probably more than 93% of Serbs just in Serbia are sick of the entire parliament as a whole. A free and fair referendum is the only way to establish national unity. All these parties will come and go, couple years ago the Radicals and Democrats were the 2 strongest parties in Serbia and today they have both been sent to political oblivion.

Dacic: "I am calling on the Serbs to realize that it is not enough to just whine, they should accept foreign reporters, and not beat them when they come,"

Woaa. Never thought I would hear this from a Serbian PM. How things change. He is really poking Kosovo Serbs on the eye with some truth talking. Kosovo Serbs have thrown their lot with DSS and Kostunica, political loosers, with only about 7% support in Serbia. The other 93% in Serbian Parliament are sick and tired of KS and their nonsense extremist position. Kosovo Serbs have made a big mistake by abandoning Dacic and Vucic and going all in with Kostunica.

Really what we are talking about here is not the sake of nationalism but the sake of the nation,it's resources,culture and People,which the purpose of the government is to serve and protect !!! does Serbia now needs to leave everything behind for nothing in return ? is that fair,just,the right thing to do ? in exchange for vague promises of talks to join a union where its future is not at all guaranteed to be much better but most probably more like Spain,Portugal,Greece,Malta as the worst cases.Is there any guarantee that the Presevo Valley will stay within Serbia without international pressure again ? Vojvodina ? will Serbia always be the only one asked to apologize for everything that has happened so far ? will it be asked to pay for all sorts of damages and define itself guilty as if the only responsible party for the multiple sided conflicts that has occurred with abuse on and from all sides ? Now if you want to be pragmatic and move on all i am saying is to not sell the country short because what seem to be coming next is just that and even worst as in not only selling the country short which seems bad enough but basically ALSO pay the recipient !?!? WHEN does it STOPS ??? the end game is Serbia disappearance and the new country will be Belgrade and even then someone will come forward and claim parts of that it seems.

So it's nationalism when you protect the borders of your country.
Just keep quiet. You are not fooling anyone.
You belong with Dacic on the scrap heap.
(Peggy, 29 April 2013 15:33)

No you keep quite. You're just the rudest person. This doesn't concern you. You don't live in Serbia, you live on the other side of the world therefore this doesn't affect you. Serbia is a real country, it isn't a play thing or a hobby for the ancestors of Serbs living in the West which you like to relate back to for sentimental purposes. You diaspora are more nationalist than us here in Serbia and it was nationalism which caused Yugoslavia to fall apart. I am happy that you nationalists are not here in Serbia, you're a dangerous lot. We don't want or need your kind. Keep away, we don't want you here spreading your hate, before you run off back to the West leaving us to pick up the pieces.

(Ian, UK, 29 April 2013 14:34

Greater GDP eh? Well if that is the case then Montenegro has a higher GDP than Serbia, but lest see that country try and borrow money on the open market. It’s classified by the banking system as Junk Bond status. Romania and Bulgaria and better but they pay higher interest on any borrowing than Serbia.

Keep away, we don't want you here spreading your hate, before you run off back to the West leaving us to pick up the pieces.
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 29 April 2013 20:13)
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Wow, that's telling me alright.
I will not pick up my toys and head back to the west just as you say (not).
I am guessing that you speak for the Serbs of Serbia. Something tells me that you are the problem and Serbia could do with a little less like you there.
I am also guessing that you don't want our help in the form of spreading the word, fund raising and lobbying western governments on your behalf.

Don't worry, we will save you from yourself.

As Abraham Lincoln said...A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND!
(George, 29 April 2013 14:25)
Well George, Lincoln was a wise man, but you have to look at facts, in any democracy you are not going to have a unified house. There are always going to be people who are unhappy with decisions made. The question is how big is the division. Apparently your leaders do not believe it to be that large. Should your govt fall at this time it will take decades for Serbia to come close to where they are today. I am sure you do not care as with most on this forum are safely in other countries and will not feel the misery.

(pss, 29 April 2013 15:11)


Alright then go to Slovakia or Poland or Latvia or Estonia and others. Perhaps you may want to explain Slovenia; surely they are a good example of success in the EU? Tell me why aren’t they beacons of EU wealth?

There is only corruption in Bulgaria and Romania because their standard of living is very poor. Both of these countries have been in the EU for a number of years and the infrastructure is terrible, why even Serbia has better than those two and when you consider what Serbia been through so much for joining the EU. Next on the whining list is Croatia, soon to join paradise, but its broke then perhaps you can make another excuse for their lowering of living standards. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

To use your vernacular, if there is a dollar to be made, industry will be smashing down the door.

You only look at balance sheets? Well lets look at Bulgaria's and Romania's economy since they joined the EU.

GDP Per Capita (Nominal):
Bulgaria = $5,116 (2006) and $7,187 (2011)
Romania = $7,352 (2006) and $8,853 (2011)

GDP Per Capita (PPP):
Bulgaria = $10,022 (2006) and $13,149 (2010)
Romania = $10,125 (2006) and $12,078 (2010)

Bulgaria's and Romania's economy have significantly grown since joing the EU and they're more economically advanced than Serbia.
(Ian, UK, 29 April 2013 14:34)


No one believes your statistics, Ian

The standard of living for ordinary people in Britain has declined over the past 5 years, do you really expect anyone to believe that Romanians and Bulgarians are somehow doing better? Why then would they flee their homeland to come to the West?

You are a propagandist for criminal banksters. But the game is over, the EU is dead.

"(...)they should accept foreign reporters, and not beat them when they come,"

When are Kosovare reporters "foreign"? Shame on those perpetrators.


Tung,

Don't worry, we will save you from yourself.
(Peggy, 30 April 2013 01:50)


LOL!!! You can't make this stuff up!

Hey if your theory was correct then Bulgaria and Romania would be awash with industry and not one of the poorest in Europe.
(sj, 29 April 2013 12:18)
Once again you show how little you know about global economics. You picked the 2 most corrupt countries in Europe. EU provides funds and opportunities and guidance but if you disregard that guidance and every time someone wants to invest in your country you hold out your hand for the customary bribe, the industry is not going to come. Serbia has a choice, they can follow the route of those countries or they can attempt a future.
You can give 2 men a million dollars a piece. One invests and uses it to make more money and at the end of the year he can be a millionaire many times over, the other spends it on fast cars and loose women and pays off his "friends" he is doomed to be penniless at the end of the year.
I expected more from you, unless you group Serbia the same as Romania and Bulgaria.

That's okay because probably more than 93% of Serbs just in Serbia are sick of the entire parliament as a whole.
(Ari Gold, 29 April 2013 17:12)

Really?! It's not even a year since when they elected it...

The answer seems very simple: hold a referendum about holding a referendum. Very few governments hold such plebiscites unless they are confident of winning or they are constitutionally bound to do so. I do not know what was in the manifesto of Dacic's party before the last election or even if such a manifesto exists. The patience and solidarity of Serbs living outside of Northern Kosovo may well be close to being exhausted and it might be better for those in NK if the agreement simply goes through without a vote by the people. A public slap in the face from their fellow Serbs, which is what Dacic seems to be implying would be the result of a referendum, would add insult to injury and take away their credibility. (I assume in my comment that such a referendum would include the whole of Serbia rather than just the immediately affected area).

That would not set Serbia back at all because its a myth that any country needs to join the EU in order to see investments and wealth. That is a completely internal matter and has more to do with taxes, bureaucracy and corruption more than it has to do with signing illegal and unrealistic agreements with occupiers to give up sovereign land.
(Ari Gold, 29 April 2013 17:15)
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Exactly right and Serbia has none of that except the corruption. The isolation alone will make Serbia the arm pit of Europe, not even Russia or china will invest, maybe purchase at the garage sale.

This referendum is a waste of public money and could be put to better use. This referedum is also delaying and putting off potential investors from the EU. I understand that this deal was not an easy agreement to make however I don't want to see Serbia suffer for the sake of nationalism.

Hey if your theory was correct then Bulgaria and Romania would be awash with industry and not one of the poorest in Europe.
(sj, 29 April 2013 12:18)

What is it you recently said? You only look at balance sheets? Well lets look at Bulgaria's and Romania's economy since they joined the EU.

GDP Per Capita (Nominal):
Bulgaria = $5,116 (2006) and $7,187 (2011)
Romania = $7,352 (2006) and $8,853 (2011)

GDP Per Capita (PPP):
Bulgaria = $10,022 (2006) and $13,149 (2010)
Romania = $10,125 (2006) and $12,078 (2010)

Bulgaria's and Romania's economy have significantly grown since joing the EU and they're more economically advanced than Serbia.

I don't want to see Serbia suffer for the sake of nationalism.
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 29 April 2013 11:27)
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So it's nationalism when you protect the borders of your country.
Just keep quiet. You are not fooling anyone.
You belong with Dacic on the scrap heap.

Hey if your theory was correct then Bulgaria and Romania would be awash with industry and not one of the poorest in Europe.
(sj, 29 April 2013 12:18)
Once again you show how little you know about global economics. You picked the 2 most corrupt countries in Europe. EU provides funds and opportunities and guidance but if you disregard that guidance and every time someone wants to invest in your country you hold out your hand for the customary bribe, the industry is not going to come. Serbia has a choice, they can follow the route of those countries or they can attempt a future.
You can give 2 men a million dollars a piece. One invests and uses it to make more money and at the end of the year he can be a millionaire many times over, the other spends it on fast cars and loose women and pays off his "friends" he is doomed to be penniless at the end of the year.
I expected more from you, unless you group Serbia the same as Romania and Bulgaria.

As Abraham Lincoln said...A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND!
(George, 29 April 2013 14:25)
Well George, Lincoln was a wise man, but you have to look at facts, in any democracy you are not going to have a unified house. There are always going to be people who are unhappy with decisions made. The question is how big is the division. Apparently your leaders do not believe it to be that large. Should your govt fall at this time it will take decades for Serbia to come close to where they are today. I am sure you do not care as with most on this forum are safely in other countries and will not feel the misery.

Firstly, this government does not have the mandate to accept such an ultimatum from the EU/US/NATO, which is both anti-constitutional and anti-Serbian. We have suffered throughout history by fascists and have always resisted to eventually defeat it! This time is no different.

We can see they are involved in continual murder, violence and genocide of Serbian people and we must continue to resist and fight it peacefully. We cannot, under any circumstances, unite with such evil otherwise we will becoming it.

So whatever the result of a referendum, it must remain unconditional, so the Serbs in KiM have the option to secede if necessary. The EU/US/NATO and their NGOs will meddle in such a referendum extensively, so we cannot condition anything to such manipulation. Surrendering is not an option.

Dacic is simply repeating the propaganda we have been hearing from Albanians for some time now. Time to reject the EU and their immature ultimatums permanently.

What a great shame it has come to this. There was an opportunity to bring lasting peace to the region but the ego of some nations just couldn't see it. Whenever Germany takes the helm of Europe, it always ends up destroying it. Time to put an end to it.

Really what we are talking about here is not the sake of nationalism but the sake of the nation,it's resources,culture and People,which the purpose of the government is to serve and protect !!! does Serbia now needs to leave everything behind for nothing in return ? is that fair,just,the right thing to do ? in exchange for vague promises of talks to join a union where its future is not at all guaranteed to be much better but most probably more like Spain,Portugal,Greece,Malta as the worst cases.Is there any guarantee that the Presevo Valley will stay within Serbia without international pressure again ? Vojvodina ? will Serbia always be the only one asked to apologize for everything that has happened so far ? will it be asked to pay for all sorts of damages and define itself guilty as if the only responsible party for the multiple sided conflicts that has occurred with abuse on and from all sides ? Now if you want to be pragmatic and move on all i am saying is to not sell the country short because what seem to be coming next is just that and even worst as in not only selling the country short which seems bad enough but basically ALSO pay the recipient !?!? WHEN does it STOPS ??? the end game is Serbia disappearance and the new country will be Belgrade and even then someone will come forward and claim parts of that it seems.

So it's nationalism when you protect the borders of your country.
Just keep quiet. You are not fooling anyone.
You belong with Dacic on the scrap heap.
(Peggy, 29 April 2013 15:33)

No you keep quite. You're just the rudest person. This doesn't concern you. You don't live in Serbia, you live on the other side of the world therefore this doesn't affect you. Serbia is a real country, it isn't a play thing or a hobby for the ancestors of Serbs living in the West which you like to relate back to for sentimental purposes. You diaspora are more nationalist than us here in Serbia and it was nationalism which caused Yugoslavia to fall apart. I am happy that you nationalists are not here in Serbia, you're a dangerous lot. We don't want or need your kind. Keep away, we don't want you here spreading your hate, before you run off back to the West leaving us to pick up the pieces.

No little man. You don’t want a referendum because you will lose and imagine all those solid gold goodies you will miss out on. Tadic 1 failed and now little Ivica you want bring on Tadic 2 to succeed.
My tubby friend you have absolutely no choice but to hold the referendum. You need unanimous support and since you don’t have that it’s off to the booths.
What most Serbs in Serbia are seeing for the first time is a phenomena that has been going on for decades in the west – no matter who you vote in they are simply a continuation of the last lot of ratbag polices.
However there is a solution to that disease. You vote for a party and if they do not adhere to their announced polices out they go in 3 years time, no excuses. Very soon you get the politicians you not only want but need to run the country.

“... This referedum is also delaying and putting off potential investors from the EU...”
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 29 April 2013 11:27)
Not true because if there is money to be made, and in Serbia there is plenty of opportunity, western businessmen will deal with anyone. It’s a myth perpetrated by some Serb politicians who work for Brussels.
Hey if your theory was correct then Bulgaria and Romania would be awash with industry and not one of the poorest in Europe.

Dacic: "I am calling on the Serbs to realize that it is not enough to just whine, they should accept foreign reporters, and not beat them when they come,"

Woaa. Never thought I would hear this from a Serbian PM. How things change. He is really poking Kosovo Serbs on the eye with some truth talking. Kosovo Serbs have thrown their lot with DSS and Kostunica, political loosers, with only about 7% support in Serbia. The other 93% in Serbian Parliament are sick and tired of KS and their nonsense extremist position. Kosovo Serbs have made a big mistake by abandoning Dacic and Vucic and going all in with Kostunica.

Should your govt fall at this time it will take decades for Serbia to come close to where they are today. I am sure you do not care as with most on this forum are safely in other countries and will not feel the misery.
(think about it, 29 April 2013 15:42)

Why would it take Serbia decades for it to "get back" to where it is today if the current gov't falls? Why, because of not getting EU candidacy? That would not set Serbia back at all because its a myth that any country needs to join the EU in order to see investments and wealth. That is a completely internal matter and has more to do with taxes, bureaucracy and corruption more than it has to do with signing illegal and unrealistic agreements with occupiers to give up sovereign land.

That would not set Serbia back at all because its a myth that any country needs to join the EU in order to see investments and wealth. That is a completely internal matter and has more to do with taxes, bureaucracy and corruption more than it has to do with signing illegal and unrealistic agreements with occupiers to give up sovereign land.
(Ari Gold, 29 April 2013 17:15)
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Exactly right and Serbia has none of that except the corruption. The isolation alone will make Serbia the arm pit of Europe, not even Russia or china will invest, maybe purchase at the garage sale.

"(...)they should accept foreign reporters, and not beat them when they come,"

When are Kosovare reporters "foreign"? Shame on those perpetrators.


Tung,

Don't worry, we will save you from yourself.
(Peggy, 30 April 2013 01:50)


LOL!!! You can't make this stuff up!

Dačić asserted he was "neither in favour nor against" the holding of the referendum, and warned that if the agreement "fell" in this way, his government would see the same fate.

B92

Of course he'e against the referendum thus his warning about the fate of his government.It doesn't surprise me in the least with his comments,that's precisely what the Emperors Barroso and Van Rompuy told him to say.Any inherently undemocratic entity like the EU has always been against public opinion.

No doubt I will be mocked for saying it but the revival of the Roman Empire (i.e EU) is prophesied in the Bible (you can read of it in Daniel and Revelation).
There will be an EU Empire and it will be a dictatorship. You can see it happening today - there is no stopping it even if there are a few hiccups on the way.

What is so frustrating and perplexing for ordinary people is trying to discern from where the political counter-attack will come, and led by whom? In particular, how has the entire European political class become so inveigled by the monster that is the European Union; by the tyranny of the Lisbon Treaty? How did it get to this? Just look at those poor Greeks,Spanish,Cypriots,Irish,and Portuguese, today. Why are we are not screaming "Stop this now!" from the rooftops?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle"'Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents', Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

The other 93% in Serbian Parliament are sick and tired of KS and their nonsense extremist position. Kosovo Serbs have made a big mistake by abandoning Dacic and Vucic and going all in with Kostunica.
(BalkanUpdate, 29 April 2013 13:29)

That's okay because probably more than 93% of Serbs just in Serbia are sick of the entire parliament as a whole. A free and fair referendum is the only way to establish national unity. All these parties will come and go, couple years ago the Radicals and Democrats were the 2 strongest parties in Serbia and today they have both been sent to political oblivion.

Keep away, we don't want you here spreading your hate, before you run off back to the West leaving us to pick up the pieces.
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 29 April 2013 20:13)
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Wow, that's telling me alright.
I will not pick up my toys and head back to the west just as you say (not).
I am guessing that you speak for the Serbs of Serbia. Something tells me that you are the problem and Serbia could do with a little less like you there.
I am also guessing that you don't want our help in the form of spreading the word, fund raising and lobbying western governments on your behalf.

Don't worry, we will save you from yourself.

That's okay because probably more than 93% of Serbs just in Serbia are sick of the entire parliament as a whole.
(Ari Gold, 29 April 2013 17:12)

Really?! It's not even a year since when they elected it...

The answer seems very simple: hold a referendum about holding a referendum. Very few governments hold such plebiscites unless they are confident of winning or they are constitutionally bound to do so. I do not know what was in the manifesto of Dacic's party before the last election or even if such a manifesto exists. The patience and solidarity of Serbs living outside of Northern Kosovo may well be close to being exhausted and it might be better for those in NK if the agreement simply goes through without a vote by the people. A public slap in the face from their fellow Serbs, which is what Dacic seems to be implying would be the result of a referendum, would add insult to injury and take away their credibility. (I assume in my comment that such a referendum would include the whole of Serbia rather than just the immediately affected area).

If he feels most people don't want it,than it should pass buy a large number "FOR".He also says it will divide the people,thay are already divided those who support and those who don't,. It would be the same if you held a peferendem or not.It's to late to worry about the people being divided. The politicians should have thought of that before, instead of pitting the people against one another. The politicians were more concerned to make Brussels and Washington happy than Serbs!

As Abraham Lincoln said...A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND!

(Ian, UK, 29 April 2013 14:34

Greater GDP eh? Well if that is the case then Montenegro has a higher GDP than Serbia, but lest see that country try and borrow money on the open market. It’s classified by the banking system as Junk Bond status. Romania and Bulgaria and better but they pay higher interest on any borrowing than Serbia.

You only look at balance sheets? Well lets look at Bulgaria's and Romania's economy since they joined the EU.

GDP Per Capita (Nominal):
Bulgaria = $5,116 (2006) and $7,187 (2011)
Romania = $7,352 (2006) and $8,853 (2011)

GDP Per Capita (PPP):
Bulgaria = $10,022 (2006) and $13,149 (2010)
Romania = $10,125 (2006) and $12,078 (2010)

Bulgaria's and Romania's economy have significantly grown since joing the EU and they're more economically advanced than Serbia.
(Ian, UK, 29 April 2013 14:34)


No one believes your statistics, Ian

The standard of living for ordinary people in Britain has declined over the past 5 years, do you really expect anyone to believe that Romanians and Bulgarians are somehow doing better? Why then would they flee their homeland to come to the West?

You are a propagandist for criminal banksters. But the game is over, the EU is dead.

(pss, 29 April 2013 15:11)


Alright then go to Slovakia or Poland or Latvia or Estonia and others. Perhaps you may want to explain Slovenia; surely they are a good example of success in the EU? Tell me why aren’t they beacons of EU wealth?

There is only corruption in Bulgaria and Romania because their standard of living is very poor. Both of these countries have been in the EU for a number of years and the infrastructure is terrible, why even Serbia has better than those two and when you consider what Serbia been through so much for joining the EU. Next on the whining list is Croatia, soon to join paradise, but its broke then perhaps you can make another excuse for their lowering of living standards. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

To use your vernacular, if there is a dollar to be made, industry will be smashing down the door.