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Thursday, 25.04.2013.

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Serbian president apologizes for crimes in Bosnia

Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić has apologized for all crimes committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina by any individual on Serbia’s behalf.

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Daniel

pre 11 godina

Good move by the president and I hope that it will set an example for other groups from former yugoslavia that committed hiddious crimes, albanians, muslims and croats to be exact. Noone is irresponsible for the killings of hundreds of thousands of poor souls of them being serbs, albanians, muslims and croats. A life is a life no matter what color on the skin you have and no matter what nationality someone belongs to. I hope that albanians, muslims and croats one day will realize what they did and apologizes for the murdering of serb civilians. After all we all have one life so why dont try to make the best of it, whether we want it or not we still have to live amongst eachother. Balcans have seen enough of dead and killings. Lets all try to make it a better place to live for all of us.

The Balkans

pre 11 godina

So why should the Croats & Bosniaks step up to the plate when the entire world knows that it was the Serbs who committed Genocide in BiH. It's like the Jews apologising to the NAZI's for being in Europe in 1941.
(Bam Bam, 27 April 2013 07:32)

Because most of the world doesn't seem to notice that there are always two sides to a war, or any other conflict.

But really, funny that you should mention Nazis...you're a Croat ultranationalist, right?

Granny-in-disguise

pre 11 godina

Even though I knew this was going to happen, I must admit I am a bit surprised by the maturity and seriousness this government has so far demonstrated. Great move! Really big gesture. This government has certainly opened some doors that have been closed for us for decades!

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

@ Reality...More recently, Serbs have shown more remorse to certain crimes that were committed, weather we did them or not, civilizations were harmed due to our war, its time for Muslims and Croats to step up to the plate and do the same.

So why should the Croats & Bosniaks step up to the plate when the entire world knows that it was the Serbs who committed Genocide in BiH. It's like the Jews apologising to the NAZI's for being in Europe in 1941.

Kosta

pre 11 godina

@Comm. Parrisson: To be fair, Albanians brought Milosevic into power. When Tito died, Serbia had the most benign political elite (Ckrebic, Stambolic, Pavlovic, Bogdan Bogdanovic etc.) and Albanians were doing well indeed (Fadilj Hodza and Sinan Hasani were Presidents of SFRJ). However, for some reasons that was not enough and riots started (Kosovo Republic). This is what induced Serbian reaction. Without Albanian uprising in Kosovo 1980/81 nobody today would know who Slobodan Milosevic is.

Anna

pre 11 godina

It is not enough just to show patriotism in bars, away from the problems of the ordinary people. It is a great thing to show it in this way, to apologize for the benefit of your people. Dear neighbors, now it's your turn to apologize over crimes against Serbs.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. "
(Michael Thomas

You probably mean: Before the arrival of Milosevic in Serbian politics, Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a rather good standard of living.

Capo Di Tutti Capi

pre 11 godina

I'm glad that Nikolic has finally matured as a statesman, and that he, no longer, has that war/conflict rhetoric. Good gesture!

Lucy

pre 11 godina

We as a people are so irritated by Tadic's loud apologies, that when a statesman send a reasonable excuse, like Nikolic now, everyone complains .. we should learn to make a difference.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Than, please don't speak about Skenderbeg, because he was a Serbian origin."

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skenderbeg]

people who fought with Skenderbeg [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbëreshë_people]

but do you know what? you have Skenderbeg if it makes you happy, we'll take Kosova. fair deal :-)

True.calls

pre 11 godina

I'm glad that Mr. Nikolic creates good neighborly relations. This can be very important for Serbia both now and in the future.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

NIkolic failed to mention that before the Srebrenica massacre the forces of general Oric has massacred hundreds Serb civilians in nearbz villages attacking them from Srebrenica.y to do in order to get accession to EU...
(sceptic, 26 April 2013 00:19)

Of course, it would be silly to mention those things without also mentioning that most of those villages were originally Bosniak villages, ethnically cleansed by Serbs at the beginning of the conflict.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

the B92 Lenard Fan club
(We Love Lenard's Antics)

LOL!! Still can't stop laughing at that, and please keep them coming LOL!!

You have no idea how much reading this has cheered me up.

reality

pre 11 godina

I see this as a step in the right direction. Also, this type of behavior should be seen by croats/bosnians as we need to push forward. We dont have to be united with each other but we can respect each other and look at each other as pawns. All we ever wanted was to have our own state?

We embarrass ourselves because other nationalities look at us as the same yet due to our religion we cause chaos and we cannot accept each other..

It doesn't matter if your croation, albanian, montenegrin "though you are higher class serbs in reality", or bosnians.. We all have similar blood and deserve to have our own countries but its time we start showing some respect towards each other..

More recently, Serbs have shown more remorse to certain crimes that were committed, weather we did them or not, civilizations were harmed due to our war, its time for Muslims and Croats to step up to the plate and do the same.

War is a horrible state to live in and most people on this blog have not experienced it and it causes Post Traumatic Stress and it can be passed on through genetics. So it is best to end this drama and look toward the future.

Stavros

pre 11 godina

I am not a hater, I am speaking the truth. The truth that hurts You Albanians. First of all, mr. Dean started this ridiculous conversation, mentioning the Ilyrians and Dardania.

Dean said: "B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.

Sorry, but that was a insult for me, no matter because I am a Greek who lives and works with Serbians. It is absolutely true that Kosovo and Metohija is a holy Serbian land, stolen by the Albanians.
Than, please don't speak about Skenderbeg, because he was a Serbian origin. His father was the prince of Epir, Jovan Kastrioti, and mother's name was Vojislava. His brothers and sisters were named Stanisa, Costantine, Mara, Jelena, Andjelina, Vlajka... Albanian, for sure (laugh!). You are well-known by stealing lands and history of the other nations.

Dean said: "This is a story between Albanians and Serbs and has nothing to do with you.Mind your own business and STOP playing the man who knows almost everything.
B.t.w.,''Dear'' Stavros, we are ''gathered'' here to talk about CRIMES Serbs committed in Bosnia and the Apology of the President of Serbia."

Ok, why have you started conversation on that level? What is about your nation here? Ok, it is a story about Serbians and Bosnians, the apology of the Serbian President, which I support and realize correctly. That matters, and your freaking story does not!

sceptic

pre 11 godina

NIkolic failed to mention that before the Srebrenica massacre the forces of general Oric has massacred hundreds Serb civilians in nearbz villages attacking them from Srebrenica. THe war in Bosnia Erzegovina was civil but since the president of Serbia asks for apology it is obvious that Serbia is also responsible and aggressor (otherwise the apology is meaningless and probably should be asked to pay war compensations and Serbian Republic should be considered as a product of invasion). I wonder what are the Serb leaders ready to do in order to get accession to EU...

Santo

pre 11 godina

I agree that President Nokolic addresses excuses for the Srebrenica massacre, but it is time also for trhe Croats and Bosniaks to do the same. Massacres have been committed by all sides and victimisation of the Serbs only does not help with reconciliation.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Mr. Censor were is my comment how we Croatians see it and we why refuse to meet the likes of a Tomislav Nikolić. Keep the Serbs in th dark and delusional doing a fantastic job.

We Love Lenard's Antics

pre 11 godina

Mr. Censor were is my comment how we Croatians see it and we why refuse to meet the likes of a Tomislav Nikolić. Keep the Serbs in th dark and delusional doing a fantastic job.
(Lenard, 25 April 2013 19:16)

Because Lenny sweety, banging your head on the keyboard to mash out a comment because your arms and hands are still in the straightjacket the doctors put you in every night before they tuck you in for bed tends to result in a lot of grammatical mistakes - more than you usually write when you have use of your fingers. The moderator usually removes comments that make no sense. It's best they censored your comment. They're doing you a favor in saving what little reputation you still have around here beyond the clown you're known to be.

Love and big wet kisses,

The B92 Lenard Fan Club.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Simply amazing! An article about Serbia and Bosnia yet we have droves of talialbanians sticking their nose where it doesn't belong! What's wrong with you? Don't you have anywhere to be? Don't you have some organs to snatch or some timber to steal? You desire for attention its just unreal. Leave us the hell alone you freaks!

Denis

pre 11 godina

I think the region should hold several reconciliation forums where we all sit down and discuss our differences in this area. We should discuss history, borders, lawsuits, who should apologize to whom etc.

We need to reconcile and work together if we want to move ahead especially economically.

Stavros, this is a probelm with you bail out greeks. You want to look like a western European but you truly are the most Byzantine minded nation of all the Balkans. That's why you have been living on Europes money for 200 years now. Does it matter really when albanians came to the Balkans? Many historians think that today Greeks are a mix of Egyptians and SubSaharian races brought in by the Turks. In fact you do have that year round tan more than any other nation in Balkans.

Yet nothing of this matters. What matters is that we are all here, and we look back and think backwards. Germans are not going to bail you out forever. You and every Balkan nation has to find sustainable solutions for their future, and no such solution exist without a regional cooperation.

So take your hate somewhere else Stavro

Visitor from Tirana Albania

pre 11 godina

STAVROS
What a shocking surprise…..
So Albanians Stavros came in Albania today during Ottoman Empire?
WE ALL know here that Ottoman Empire conquered Albania in 1478.
Before 1478 there was a 30 years of Albanian resistance with Scanderbeg against Ottoman Empire.
Are you telling us here that those who fought Ottoman Empire before 1478 with Scanderbeg were NOT Albanians?

Your comments are base on hate and religion intolerance.

PS: As of Albanians came from Asia you are mixing it with population exchange from Asia to Greece.
Assimilation of Albanians was done nicely in Greece.
There is a “but” though…. you might be Albanian and you don’t know it.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule...
(Stavros, 25 April 2013 15:47)
Than how do you explain the presence of Orthodox and Catholic Albanians before Ottoman emipre?
How do you explain the presence of Catholic Albanians in Kosovo?Did they come with Ottomans too?
You greeko-pondes who come in Greece in 1922 make me laught.U come from Asia Minor not Albanians.

How do you explain the Orosh Church in Mirdita Albania dated since 10 cetury.How do you explain the church in Mborje Korca dated 1100 ac long before Ottomans came.
How do yoy explain that the population of Albania used to speak medivel albanian and were either Cathilic or Orthodox?Check the Albanians who live in South Italy,Ukraine etc before you make those redicilous statements.
Until 1800 the majority of albanians were Christians.In 1800 with the Tanzimat reforms most of them converted to Mulsim to pay less taxes and get better careers.
The village where my ancestors came dated back to 1200 ac.They all sopoke albananian and were Christian.The same goes for Catholic Albanians who use to live in Noth and Kosovo.

As for the subject,finally Serbia is going into the right direction.Hope next step will be apoligizing for the crimes commited against Albanians in Kosovo.

Arn.

pre 11 godina

The Signature Michael Tomas has the Point !.
I Quote -

"When are the Bosnian Moslem leaders going to apologise of slaughtering Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica prior to its liberation?".

Comment -

Those Militant Muslims from Srebrenica Destroyen 3 Serbian Villages,
and Murdered all Serbian Civilians - Men-Women-Children.

The Serbian Punishment of those Militans is no Genoside,
The Serbian Presiden speacs like a Budala.

Arn.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

He told Bosnian BHT TV that the genocide in Srebrenica needed to be proven first but added that he was “on his knees, asking for forgiveness for Serbia”.

- A step in the right direction, Mr. President! I hope there's more where that came from.

Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. If ever an objective history is written about the Albanians, then their “Golden Age” will be the years under Serbian rule. I fear their darkest years are still ahead of them and will not end until NATO is no more.
(Michael Thomas

What a dumb statement! During commie days, Albania was a horrendous place to live. Hoxha thought that Stalin was a weak dictator. Using Albania as a benchmark during those days is a silly thing to do.

But, in 1999 residents of Albania had a better standard of living than Albanians in Kosovo.
Look how many new buildings went up in Kosovo when Serbia was in charge and look how much building went on after the war.

If I were to wish the same 'Golden Age' upon the Serbs worldwide that Kosovars enjoyed during Serbian reign would you considmer me a friend of foe?

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Dean

why don't you have a rest and give your backside a chance to breath!!

The war is over and we can't turn back the clock but we can and should make the world including KOSOVO a safer and secure place for our kids and generations to come, ALL OUR KIDS!! Enough of hate yes, it takes a stronger man to say sorry, are you strong Dean??!!

Dean

pre 11 godina

''...As a Greek, I am completely SURE that.....''
(Stavros, 25 April 2013 15:47)
So,being a ''greek'',it means that you are always Right,and Never Wrong???
Please Stavros, don't be so RIDICULOUS.
This is a story between Albanians and Serbs and has nothing to do with you.Mind your own business and STOP playing the man who knows almost everything.
B.t.w.,''Dear'' Stavros, we are ''gathered'' here to talk about CRIMES Serbs committed in Bosnia and the Apology of the President of Serbia.
You will be more than welcome to express your Opinion about Bosnia,instead of talking with Certainty about the history of ''Homos Balcanicus''.

ivan

pre 11 godina

Serbs gave their lives to defend what is rightfully ours. You just destroyed whatever dignity the Serbs had remaining. What about the other side of the conflict, do you see anyone else begging for mercy? I knew you were nothing when you did a 360 at the time you first went to Russia "officialy" then claimed that it was "unofficial" only to appease our worst enemies. Go join the ranks of Tadic and the other sellouts. The only hope Serbia has left is an early election hopefully caused by internal conflict over this so called deal. Now that we've seen what Nikolic is all about, chances are slim he will be coming back.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

It will never be the right time to discuss about these ridiculous theories, founded on a false myth about Albanian Illyric heritage. As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule. It is easy to explain that fact, there is no a single medieval monument that testifies the existence of Albanians in the region. In spite of that, Serbian medieval monasteries are present in the every part of Kosovo and Metohija. So stop talking lies, start respecting Serbian history, and accept the reality that the western states, in cooperation with Turks, gave the living place to the Albanians in Kosovo, Greece and Albania.
Stavros

Stavros, Learn your own history first. Don't try to preach about something you know very little about. I'm sure you have asiatic blood in you.

BTW, when's the last time Greece held a census? What do they have to hide?

Van der Goor

pre 11 godina

It is never late to ask for forgiveness for crimes committed in the name of whole nation. Mr. Nikolic was named as a nationalist, but he realized that the path of reconciliation is the only right one in the region. Some will condemn this decision, but everyone who is looking forward to the future will say that the President Nikolic has done a right move.

Stavros

pre 11 godina

@(Dean, 25 April 2013 12:27)
A little bit LATE,Mr.President,but better Late than Never,as they say.
Hopefully,ordinary Serbs,will agree with you,otherwise what's the point???
B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.
The TRUTH is the necessary pill required,4 brainwashed societies like Serbia.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

It will never be the right time to discuss about these ridiculous theories, founded on a false myth about Albanian Illyric heritage. As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule. It is easy to explain that fact, there is no a single medieval monument that testifies the existence of Albanians in the region. In spite of that, Serbian medieval monasteries are present in the every part of Kosovo and Metohija. So stop talking lies, start respecting Serbian history, and accept the reality that the western states, in cooperation with Turks, gave the living place to the Albanians in Kosovo, Greece and Albania.

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

ned taylor

You are either naive or very mendacious. I object to Nikolić’s statement not only because it is wrong, but because it will be used by Serbia’s enemies to confirm the Western narrative about the break-up of Yugoslavia, the Greater Serbia myth, and the collective guilt of all Serbians.

Discussions of “Us” and “Them” is not nonsense, it is very valid and important for Serbia’s survival.

For your benefit, Ned, I’ll define “Them.” The enemies of Serbia and the Serbian people are the NATO powers, principally Germany, America and the UK. These powers are aided by minor NATO countries like the Netherlands, and also by miserable provincial centres that seek to enrich themselves at the expense of Serbian communities that lie within their borders. Here I am referring to Croatia, the Moslem bit of Bosnia, and the Albanians of NATO-occupied Kosovo.

The Albanian leadership has stolen everything of value in Kosovo and now earns its keep by assisting NATO in the transit of Afghan opium into Western Europe. This is why they don’t want to be ruled from Belgrade.

Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. If ever an objective history is written about the Albanians, then their “Golden Age” will be the years under Serbian rule. I fear their darkest years are still ahead of them and will not end until NATO is no more.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

Like an apology from Nikolic would bring back more than 100 thousands killed in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Well at least he is going in the right direction and let's hope for a better future in the Balkans, but he needs to apologise to Kosovo too for their state sponsored crimes against Kosovo Albanians.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

dean

Your Albanian people are committing crimes against Serbians in Kosovo everyday, attacks on young school kids, desecration of graves, murders of innocent people to drive them from their homes and land, grenade attacks on Serbian homes are a regular occurrence and all sanctioned by the war criminal thaci.

it is quite odd would you not say that the so called Albanian police never seem to catch their own people who commit crime. yes, apologies for those acts of crime are appropriate but I do not believe that the Albanian so called government in Kosovo are capable of such human decency, please prove me wrong in the above cases mentioned. As for your information dean, it was the Albanians who fought alongside the Nazis in Kosovo doing the same then as they do today, trying to ethnically cleanse the Serbians from their own land in Kosovo, it is the land that belongs to them and no statement issued from the US state department run by other war criminals can ever change that fact so get over yourself.

Mr Nikolic has done the right thing, you people will not because that is what you are and you do not like it when someone tells you so. And one more thing, I despise all who commit crimes against innocents regardless of who they are, two wrongs do not and never will make a right, at least Nikolic has done what apparently your hashish thaci the organ thief cannot do.

You have a nice day now dean.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

that is the problem Ned Taylor, pity that all those who committed war crimes cannot stand up and apologise, a great part of the blame for that lies at Western governments hands for not acknowledging the crimes committed against the Serbian people by other former Yugoslavs and certain Western governments. The Serbs are better off on their own than to have to live with those "other" people, why because they are never to be trusted the same as the west are not to be trusted either, the greatest aggressors of all.

People like you don't ever discuss all the facts, and should you ever wish to disclose all I hope you can live with the shame. You always speak as if the west are the good guys, I do not agree with you Mr Taylor as most people on the planet wouldn't agree either, apart from the Albanians Muslims and Croats of course, they always go along with the power of the time but as you know times do and will change.

Grobar1

pre 11 godina

Dear mr.president you are a damn fool have the muslims apologized or the croats then why do you...I cannot believe our Serbian politician's have become pathetic lap dog's

Dean

pre 11 godina

''Forgiveness is a two way process''
(Spartan, 25 April 2013 12:53)

So,basically you're saying that,as Albanian,i do Owe an APOLOGY to Italians for Invading ALBANIA(or Serbs to Nazi Germany,for that matter) during the WW2??????????
Please,let's be serious here and stop the manipulative games.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

One wonders what happens to Serbians when they achieve high political office. They seem to lose all sense of duty to the Serbian people and are happy to oblige Serbia’s enemies in every way they can.

When are the Bosnian Moslem leaders going to apologise of slaughtering Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica prior to its liberation? What about apologies for the extermination of Serbs from Sarajevo – Where have 200,000 Sarajevo Serbs gone?

Where is the Croat apology for exterminating the Krajina Serbs? Prior to WW2 Serbs were 1/3rd of the population in Croatia, today they are as rare as dinosaur eggs.

Where is the Albanian apology for exterminating Kosovo Serbs? Serbs have been thrown out and illegal immigrants from Albanian brought in.

There will never be any apologies because Moslems, Croats and Albanians are proud of their behaviour, they regret nothing.

It is appropriate for all civilized countries to lament the pointless loss of life in conflict, and that is what Nikolić should be doing. It is inappropriate for the President to apologise for actions that, even if true, were not the responsibility of either the Serbian President or government.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

Michael Thomas......."happy to oblige Serbia's enemies....". This says more about you than about the President. Perhaps Nikolic is taking the sensible view that Croatia and Bosnia are partners. This nonsense about 'us' and 'them' has caused many of the problems from which the region is still recovering. No doubt you see Kosovo Albanians as another enemy and yet wonder at the same time why they did not want to be ruled over by Belgrade. I am no advocate of the UDI and believe that all sides committed their share of atrocities in the 1990s but your attitude will lead the Balkans backwards not forwards.

Dean

pre 11 godina

A little bit LATE,Mr.President,but better Late than Never,as they say.
Hopefully,ordinary Serbs,will agree with you,otherwise what's the point???
B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.
The TRUTH is the necessary pill required,4 brainwashed societies like Serbia.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Dean

What are you babbling about??

Forgiveness is a two way process, now it's the turn of all those who murdered innocent Serbs to ask for forgiveness. There are two sides to every coin mister, and Kosovo does not belong to Albanians alone, there are two peoples there and each have the right in my opinion to live in the country of their birth without fear of persecution and attack just because you are different. The Albanians are by no means squeaky clean and the whole of Europe can attest to that fact. The Albanians have yet to make one single apology to all those that THEY have murdered and wronged. At least Mr Nikolic has the balls to say what he said which is more than can be said for the gangster Mr Thaci or Izetbegovic and his Croat pals.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Dean

What are you babbling about??

Forgiveness is a two way process, now it's the turn of all those who murdered innocent Serbs to ask for forgiveness. There are two sides to every coin mister, and Kosovo does not belong to Albanians alone, there are two peoples there and each have the right in my opinion to live in the country of their birth without fear of persecution and attack just because you are different. The Albanians are by no means squeaky clean and the whole of Europe can attest to that fact. The Albanians have yet to make one single apology to all those that THEY have murdered and wronged. At least Mr Nikolic has the balls to say what he said which is more than can be said for the gangster Mr Thaci or Izetbegovic and his Croat pals.

Dean

pre 11 godina

A little bit LATE,Mr.President,but better Late than Never,as they say.
Hopefully,ordinary Serbs,will agree with you,otherwise what's the point???
B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.
The TRUTH is the necessary pill required,4 brainwashed societies like Serbia.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

One wonders what happens to Serbians when they achieve high political office. They seem to lose all sense of duty to the Serbian people and are happy to oblige Serbia’s enemies in every way they can.

When are the Bosnian Moslem leaders going to apologise of slaughtering Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica prior to its liberation? What about apologies for the extermination of Serbs from Sarajevo – Where have 200,000 Sarajevo Serbs gone?

Where is the Croat apology for exterminating the Krajina Serbs? Prior to WW2 Serbs were 1/3rd of the population in Croatia, today they are as rare as dinosaur eggs.

Where is the Albanian apology for exterminating Kosovo Serbs? Serbs have been thrown out and illegal immigrants from Albanian brought in.

There will never be any apologies because Moslems, Croats and Albanians are proud of their behaviour, they regret nothing.

It is appropriate for all civilized countries to lament the pointless loss of life in conflict, and that is what Nikolić should be doing. It is inappropriate for the President to apologise for actions that, even if true, were not the responsibility of either the Serbian President or government.

Dean

pre 11 godina

''Forgiveness is a two way process''
(Spartan, 25 April 2013 12:53)

So,basically you're saying that,as Albanian,i do Owe an APOLOGY to Italians for Invading ALBANIA(or Serbs to Nazi Germany,for that matter) during the WW2??????????
Please,let's be serious here and stop the manipulative games.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

Michael Thomas......."happy to oblige Serbia's enemies....". This says more about you than about the President. Perhaps Nikolic is taking the sensible view that Croatia and Bosnia are partners. This nonsense about 'us' and 'them' has caused many of the problems from which the region is still recovering. No doubt you see Kosovo Albanians as another enemy and yet wonder at the same time why they did not want to be ruled over by Belgrade. I am no advocate of the UDI and believe that all sides committed their share of atrocities in the 1990s but your attitude will lead the Balkans backwards not forwards.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule...
(Stavros, 25 April 2013 15:47)
Than how do you explain the presence of Orthodox and Catholic Albanians before Ottoman emipre?
How do you explain the presence of Catholic Albanians in Kosovo?Did they come with Ottomans too?
You greeko-pondes who come in Greece in 1922 make me laught.U come from Asia Minor not Albanians.

How do you explain the Orosh Church in Mirdita Albania dated since 10 cetury.How do you explain the church in Mborje Korca dated 1100 ac long before Ottomans came.
How do yoy explain that the population of Albania used to speak medivel albanian and were either Cathilic or Orthodox?Check the Albanians who live in South Italy,Ukraine etc before you make those redicilous statements.
Until 1800 the majority of albanians were Christians.In 1800 with the Tanzimat reforms most of them converted to Mulsim to pay less taxes and get better careers.
The village where my ancestors came dated back to 1200 ac.They all sopoke albananian and were Christian.The same goes for Catholic Albanians who use to live in Noth and Kosovo.

As for the subject,finally Serbia is going into the right direction.Hope next step will be apoligizing for the crimes commited against Albanians in Kosovo.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

dean

Your Albanian people are committing crimes against Serbians in Kosovo everyday, attacks on young school kids, desecration of graves, murders of innocent people to drive them from their homes and land, grenade attacks on Serbian homes are a regular occurrence and all sanctioned by the war criminal thaci.

it is quite odd would you not say that the so called Albanian police never seem to catch their own people who commit crime. yes, apologies for those acts of crime are appropriate but I do not believe that the Albanian so called government in Kosovo are capable of such human decency, please prove me wrong in the above cases mentioned. As for your information dean, it was the Albanians who fought alongside the Nazis in Kosovo doing the same then as they do today, trying to ethnically cleanse the Serbians from their own land in Kosovo, it is the land that belongs to them and no statement issued from the US state department run by other war criminals can ever change that fact so get over yourself.

Mr Nikolic has done the right thing, you people will not because that is what you are and you do not like it when someone tells you so. And one more thing, I despise all who commit crimes against innocents regardless of who they are, two wrongs do not and never will make a right, at least Nikolic has done what apparently your hashish thaci the organ thief cannot do.

You have a nice day now dean.

Van der Goor

pre 11 godina

It is never late to ask for forgiveness for crimes committed in the name of whole nation. Mr. Nikolic was named as a nationalist, but he realized that the path of reconciliation is the only right one in the region. Some will condemn this decision, but everyone who is looking forward to the future will say that the President Nikolic has done a right move.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Simply amazing! An article about Serbia and Bosnia yet we have droves of talialbanians sticking their nose where it doesn't belong! What's wrong with you? Don't you have anywhere to be? Don't you have some organs to snatch or some timber to steal? You desire for attention its just unreal. Leave us the hell alone you freaks!

Santo

pre 11 godina

I agree that President Nokolic addresses excuses for the Srebrenica massacre, but it is time also for trhe Croats and Bosniaks to do the same. Massacres have been committed by all sides and victimisation of the Serbs only does not help with reconciliation.

Stavros

pre 11 godina

@(Dean, 25 April 2013 12:27)
A little bit LATE,Mr.President,but better Late than Never,as they say.
Hopefully,ordinary Serbs,will agree with you,otherwise what's the point???
B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.
The TRUTH is the necessary pill required,4 brainwashed societies like Serbia.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

It will never be the right time to discuss about these ridiculous theories, founded on a false myth about Albanian Illyric heritage. As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule. It is easy to explain that fact, there is no a single medieval monument that testifies the existence of Albanians in the region. In spite of that, Serbian medieval monasteries are present in the every part of Kosovo and Metohija. So stop talking lies, start respecting Serbian history, and accept the reality that the western states, in cooperation with Turks, gave the living place to the Albanians in Kosovo, Greece and Albania.

Visitor from Tirana Albania

pre 11 godina

STAVROS
What a shocking surprise…..
So Albanians Stavros came in Albania today during Ottoman Empire?
WE ALL know here that Ottoman Empire conquered Albania in 1478.
Before 1478 there was a 30 years of Albanian resistance with Scanderbeg against Ottoman Empire.
Are you telling us here that those who fought Ottoman Empire before 1478 with Scanderbeg were NOT Albanians?

Your comments are base on hate and religion intolerance.

PS: As of Albanians came from Asia you are mixing it with population exchange from Asia to Greece.
Assimilation of Albanians was done nicely in Greece.
There is a “but” though…. you might be Albanian and you don’t know it.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

Like an apology from Nikolic would bring back more than 100 thousands killed in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Well at least he is going in the right direction and let's hope for a better future in the Balkans, but he needs to apologise to Kosovo too for their state sponsored crimes against Kosovo Albanians.

Dean

pre 11 godina

''...As a Greek, I am completely SURE that.....''
(Stavros, 25 April 2013 15:47)
So,being a ''greek'',it means that you are always Right,and Never Wrong???
Please Stavros, don't be so RIDICULOUS.
This is a story between Albanians and Serbs and has nothing to do with you.Mind your own business and STOP playing the man who knows almost everything.
B.t.w.,''Dear'' Stavros, we are ''gathered'' here to talk about CRIMES Serbs committed in Bosnia and the Apology of the President of Serbia.
You will be more than welcome to express your Opinion about Bosnia,instead of talking with Certainty about the history of ''Homos Balcanicus''.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

that is the problem Ned Taylor, pity that all those who committed war crimes cannot stand up and apologise, a great part of the blame for that lies at Western governments hands for not acknowledging the crimes committed against the Serbian people by other former Yugoslavs and certain Western governments. The Serbs are better off on their own than to have to live with those "other" people, why because they are never to be trusted the same as the west are not to be trusted either, the greatest aggressors of all.

People like you don't ever discuss all the facts, and should you ever wish to disclose all I hope you can live with the shame. You always speak as if the west are the good guys, I do not agree with you Mr Taylor as most people on the planet wouldn't agree either, apart from the Albanians Muslims and Croats of course, they always go along with the power of the time but as you know times do and will change.

ivan

pre 11 godina

Serbs gave their lives to defend what is rightfully ours. You just destroyed whatever dignity the Serbs had remaining. What about the other side of the conflict, do you see anyone else begging for mercy? I knew you were nothing when you did a 360 at the time you first went to Russia "officialy" then claimed that it was "unofficial" only to appease our worst enemies. Go join the ranks of Tadic and the other sellouts. The only hope Serbia has left is an early election hopefully caused by internal conflict over this so called deal. Now that we've seen what Nikolic is all about, chances are slim he will be coming back.

Arn.

pre 11 godina

The Signature Michael Tomas has the Point !.
I Quote -

"When are the Bosnian Moslem leaders going to apologise of slaughtering Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica prior to its liberation?".

Comment -

Those Militant Muslims from Srebrenica Destroyen 3 Serbian Villages,
and Murdered all Serbian Civilians - Men-Women-Children.

The Serbian Punishment of those Militans is no Genoside,
The Serbian Presiden speacs like a Budala.

Arn.

Grobar1

pre 11 godina

Dear mr.president you are a damn fool have the muslims apologized or the croats then why do you...I cannot believe our Serbian politician's have become pathetic lap dog's

We Love Lenard's Antics

pre 11 godina

Mr. Censor were is my comment how we Croatians see it and we why refuse to meet the likes of a Tomislav Nikolić. Keep the Serbs in th dark and delusional doing a fantastic job.
(Lenard, 25 April 2013 19:16)

Because Lenny sweety, banging your head on the keyboard to mash out a comment because your arms and hands are still in the straightjacket the doctors put you in every night before they tuck you in for bed tends to result in a lot of grammatical mistakes - more than you usually write when you have use of your fingers. The moderator usually removes comments that make no sense. It's best they censored your comment. They're doing you a favor in saving what little reputation you still have around here beyond the clown you're known to be.

Love and big wet kisses,

The B92 Lenard Fan Club.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

He told Bosnian BHT TV that the genocide in Srebrenica needed to be proven first but added that he was “on his knees, asking for forgiveness for Serbia”.

- A step in the right direction, Mr. President! I hope there's more where that came from.

Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. If ever an objective history is written about the Albanians, then their “Golden Age” will be the years under Serbian rule. I fear their darkest years are still ahead of them and will not end until NATO is no more.
(Michael Thomas

What a dumb statement! During commie days, Albania was a horrendous place to live. Hoxha thought that Stalin was a weak dictator. Using Albania as a benchmark during those days is a silly thing to do.

But, in 1999 residents of Albania had a better standard of living than Albanians in Kosovo.
Look how many new buildings went up in Kosovo when Serbia was in charge and look how much building went on after the war.

If I were to wish the same 'Golden Age' upon the Serbs worldwide that Kosovars enjoyed during Serbian reign would you considmer me a friend of foe?

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

It will never be the right time to discuss about these ridiculous theories, founded on a false myth about Albanian Illyric heritage. As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule. It is easy to explain that fact, there is no a single medieval monument that testifies the existence of Albanians in the region. In spite of that, Serbian medieval monasteries are present in the every part of Kosovo and Metohija. So stop talking lies, start respecting Serbian history, and accept the reality that the western states, in cooperation with Turks, gave the living place to the Albanians in Kosovo, Greece and Albania.
Stavros

Stavros, Learn your own history first. Don't try to preach about something you know very little about. I'm sure you have asiatic blood in you.

BTW, when's the last time Greece held a census? What do they have to hide?

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Dean

why don't you have a rest and give your backside a chance to breath!!

The war is over and we can't turn back the clock but we can and should make the world including KOSOVO a safer and secure place for our kids and generations to come, ALL OUR KIDS!! Enough of hate yes, it takes a stronger man to say sorry, are you strong Dean??!!

Denis

pre 11 godina

I think the region should hold several reconciliation forums where we all sit down and discuss our differences in this area. We should discuss history, borders, lawsuits, who should apologize to whom etc.

We need to reconcile and work together if we want to move ahead especially economically.

Stavros, this is a probelm with you bail out greeks. You want to look like a western European but you truly are the most Byzantine minded nation of all the Balkans. That's why you have been living on Europes money for 200 years now. Does it matter really when albanians came to the Balkans? Many historians think that today Greeks are a mix of Egyptians and SubSaharian races brought in by the Turks. In fact you do have that year round tan more than any other nation in Balkans.

Yet nothing of this matters. What matters is that we are all here, and we look back and think backwards. Germans are not going to bail you out forever. You and every Balkan nation has to find sustainable solutions for their future, and no such solution exist without a regional cooperation.

So take your hate somewhere else Stavro

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

ned taylor

You are either naive or very mendacious. I object to Nikolić’s statement not only because it is wrong, but because it will be used by Serbia’s enemies to confirm the Western narrative about the break-up of Yugoslavia, the Greater Serbia myth, and the collective guilt of all Serbians.

Discussions of “Us” and “Them” is not nonsense, it is very valid and important for Serbia’s survival.

For your benefit, Ned, I’ll define “Them.” The enemies of Serbia and the Serbian people are the NATO powers, principally Germany, America and the UK. These powers are aided by minor NATO countries like the Netherlands, and also by miserable provincial centres that seek to enrich themselves at the expense of Serbian communities that lie within their borders. Here I am referring to Croatia, the Moslem bit of Bosnia, and the Albanians of NATO-occupied Kosovo.

The Albanian leadership has stolen everything of value in Kosovo and now earns its keep by assisting NATO in the transit of Afghan opium into Western Europe. This is why they don’t want to be ruled from Belgrade.

Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. If ever an objective history is written about the Albanians, then their “Golden Age” will be the years under Serbian rule. I fear their darkest years are still ahead of them and will not end until NATO is no more.

reality

pre 11 godina

I see this as a step in the right direction. Also, this type of behavior should be seen by croats/bosnians as we need to push forward. We dont have to be united with each other but we can respect each other and look at each other as pawns. All we ever wanted was to have our own state?

We embarrass ourselves because other nationalities look at us as the same yet due to our religion we cause chaos and we cannot accept each other..

It doesn't matter if your croation, albanian, montenegrin "though you are higher class serbs in reality", or bosnians.. We all have similar blood and deserve to have our own countries but its time we start showing some respect towards each other..

More recently, Serbs have shown more remorse to certain crimes that were committed, weather we did them or not, civilizations were harmed due to our war, its time for Muslims and Croats to step up to the plate and do the same.

War is a horrible state to live in and most people on this blog have not experienced it and it causes Post Traumatic Stress and it can be passed on through genetics. So it is best to end this drama and look toward the future.

True.calls

pre 11 godina

I'm glad that Mr. Nikolic creates good neighborly relations. This can be very important for Serbia both now and in the future.

Stavros

pre 11 godina

I am not a hater, I am speaking the truth. The truth that hurts You Albanians. First of all, mr. Dean started this ridiculous conversation, mentioning the Ilyrians and Dardania.

Dean said: "B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.

Sorry, but that was a insult for me, no matter because I am a Greek who lives and works with Serbians. It is absolutely true that Kosovo and Metohija is a holy Serbian land, stolen by the Albanians.
Than, please don't speak about Skenderbeg, because he was a Serbian origin. His father was the prince of Epir, Jovan Kastrioti, and mother's name was Vojislava. His brothers and sisters were named Stanisa, Costantine, Mara, Jelena, Andjelina, Vlajka... Albanian, for sure (laugh!). You are well-known by stealing lands and history of the other nations.

Dean said: "This is a story between Albanians and Serbs and has nothing to do with you.Mind your own business and STOP playing the man who knows almost everything.
B.t.w.,''Dear'' Stavros, we are ''gathered'' here to talk about CRIMES Serbs committed in Bosnia and the Apology of the President of Serbia."

Ok, why have you started conversation on that level? What is about your nation here? Ok, it is a story about Serbians and Bosnians, the apology of the Serbian President, which I support and realize correctly. That matters, and your freaking story does not!

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Mr. Censor were is my comment how we Croatians see it and we why refuse to meet the likes of a Tomislav Nikolić. Keep the Serbs in th dark and delusional doing a fantastic job.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

NIkolic failed to mention that before the Srebrenica massacre the forces of general Oric has massacred hundreds Serb civilians in nearbz villages attacking them from Srebrenica.y to do in order to get accession to EU...
(sceptic, 26 April 2013 00:19)

Of course, it would be silly to mention those things without also mentioning that most of those villages were originally Bosniak villages, ethnically cleansed by Serbs at the beginning of the conflict.

sceptic

pre 11 godina

NIkolic failed to mention that before the Srebrenica massacre the forces of general Oric has massacred hundreds Serb civilians in nearbz villages attacking them from Srebrenica. THe war in Bosnia Erzegovina was civil but since the president of Serbia asks for apology it is obvious that Serbia is also responsible and aggressor (otherwise the apology is meaningless and probably should be asked to pay war compensations and Serbian Republic should be considered as a product of invasion). I wonder what are the Serb leaders ready to do in order to get accession to EU...

Capo Di Tutti Capi

pre 11 godina

I'm glad that Nikolic has finally matured as a statesman, and that he, no longer, has that war/conflict rhetoric. Good gesture!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. "
(Michael Thomas

You probably mean: Before the arrival of Milosevic in Serbian politics, Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a rather good standard of living.

The Balkans

pre 11 godina

So why should the Croats & Bosniaks step up to the plate when the entire world knows that it was the Serbs who committed Genocide in BiH. It's like the Jews apologising to the NAZI's for being in Europe in 1941.
(Bam Bam, 27 April 2013 07:32)

Because most of the world doesn't seem to notice that there are always two sides to a war, or any other conflict.

But really, funny that you should mention Nazis...you're a Croat ultranationalist, right?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Than, please don't speak about Skenderbeg, because he was a Serbian origin."

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skenderbeg]

people who fought with Skenderbeg [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbëreshë_people]

but do you know what? you have Skenderbeg if it makes you happy, we'll take Kosova. fair deal :-)

Lucy

pre 11 godina

We as a people are so irritated by Tadic's loud apologies, that when a statesman send a reasonable excuse, like Nikolic now, everyone complains .. we should learn to make a difference.

Anna

pre 11 godina

It is not enough just to show patriotism in bars, away from the problems of the ordinary people. It is a great thing to show it in this way, to apologize for the benefit of your people. Dear neighbors, now it's your turn to apologize over crimes against Serbs.

Kosta

pre 11 godina

@Comm. Parrisson: To be fair, Albanians brought Milosevic into power. When Tito died, Serbia had the most benign political elite (Ckrebic, Stambolic, Pavlovic, Bogdan Bogdanovic etc.) and Albanians were doing well indeed (Fadilj Hodza and Sinan Hasani were Presidents of SFRJ). However, for some reasons that was not enough and riots started (Kosovo Republic). This is what induced Serbian reaction. Without Albanian uprising in Kosovo 1980/81 nobody today would know who Slobodan Milosevic is.

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

@ Reality...More recently, Serbs have shown more remorse to certain crimes that were committed, weather we did them or not, civilizations were harmed due to our war, its time for Muslims and Croats to step up to the plate and do the same.

So why should the Croats & Bosniaks step up to the plate when the entire world knows that it was the Serbs who committed Genocide in BiH. It's like the Jews apologising to the NAZI's for being in Europe in 1941.

Granny-in-disguise

pre 11 godina

Even though I knew this was going to happen, I must admit I am a bit surprised by the maturity and seriousness this government has so far demonstrated. Great move! Really big gesture. This government has certainly opened some doors that have been closed for us for decades!

Spartan

pre 11 godina

the B92 Lenard Fan club
(We Love Lenard's Antics)

LOL!! Still can't stop laughing at that, and please keep them coming LOL!!

You have no idea how much reading this has cheered me up.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Good move by the president and I hope that it will set an example for other groups from former yugoslavia that committed hiddious crimes, albanians, muslims and croats to be exact. Noone is irresponsible for the killings of hundreds of thousands of poor souls of them being serbs, albanians, muslims and croats. A life is a life no matter what color on the skin you have and no matter what nationality someone belongs to. I hope that albanians, muslims and croats one day will realize what they did and apologizes for the murdering of serb civilians. After all we all have one life so why dont try to make the best of it, whether we want it or not we still have to live amongst eachother. Balcans have seen enough of dead and killings. Lets all try to make it a better place to live for all of us.

Dean

pre 11 godina

A little bit LATE,Mr.President,but better Late than Never,as they say.
Hopefully,ordinary Serbs,will agree with you,otherwise what's the point???
B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.
The TRUTH is the necessary pill required,4 brainwashed societies like Serbia.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

One wonders what happens to Serbians when they achieve high political office. They seem to lose all sense of duty to the Serbian people and are happy to oblige Serbia’s enemies in every way they can.

When are the Bosnian Moslem leaders going to apologise of slaughtering Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica prior to its liberation? What about apologies for the extermination of Serbs from Sarajevo – Where have 200,000 Sarajevo Serbs gone?

Where is the Croat apology for exterminating the Krajina Serbs? Prior to WW2 Serbs were 1/3rd of the population in Croatia, today they are as rare as dinosaur eggs.

Where is the Albanian apology for exterminating Kosovo Serbs? Serbs have been thrown out and illegal immigrants from Albanian brought in.

There will never be any apologies because Moslems, Croats and Albanians are proud of their behaviour, they regret nothing.

It is appropriate for all civilized countries to lament the pointless loss of life in conflict, and that is what Nikolić should be doing. It is inappropriate for the President to apologise for actions that, even if true, were not the responsibility of either the Serbian President or government.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Dean

What are you babbling about??

Forgiveness is a two way process, now it's the turn of all those who murdered innocent Serbs to ask for forgiveness. There are two sides to every coin mister, and Kosovo does not belong to Albanians alone, there are two peoples there and each have the right in my opinion to live in the country of their birth without fear of persecution and attack just because you are different. The Albanians are by no means squeaky clean and the whole of Europe can attest to that fact. The Albanians have yet to make one single apology to all those that THEY have murdered and wronged. At least Mr Nikolic has the balls to say what he said which is more than can be said for the gangster Mr Thaci or Izetbegovic and his Croat pals.

Dean

pre 11 godina

''Forgiveness is a two way process''
(Spartan, 25 April 2013 12:53)

So,basically you're saying that,as Albanian,i do Owe an APOLOGY to Italians for Invading ALBANIA(or Serbs to Nazi Germany,for that matter) during the WW2??????????
Please,let's be serious here and stop the manipulative games.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

ned taylor

You are either naive or very mendacious. I object to Nikolić’s statement not only because it is wrong, but because it will be used by Serbia’s enemies to confirm the Western narrative about the break-up of Yugoslavia, the Greater Serbia myth, and the collective guilt of all Serbians.

Discussions of “Us” and “Them” is not nonsense, it is very valid and important for Serbia’s survival.

For your benefit, Ned, I’ll define “Them.” The enemies of Serbia and the Serbian people are the NATO powers, principally Germany, America and the UK. These powers are aided by minor NATO countries like the Netherlands, and also by miserable provincial centres that seek to enrich themselves at the expense of Serbian communities that lie within their borders. Here I am referring to Croatia, the Moslem bit of Bosnia, and the Albanians of NATO-occupied Kosovo.

The Albanian leadership has stolen everything of value in Kosovo and now earns its keep by assisting NATO in the transit of Afghan opium into Western Europe. This is why they don’t want to be ruled from Belgrade.

Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. If ever an objective history is written about the Albanians, then their “Golden Age” will be the years under Serbian rule. I fear their darkest years are still ahead of them and will not end until NATO is no more.

Grobar1

pre 11 godina

Dear mr.president you are a damn fool have the muslims apologized or the croats then why do you...I cannot believe our Serbian politician's have become pathetic lap dog's

Stavros

pre 11 godina

@(Dean, 25 April 2013 12:27)
A little bit LATE,Mr.President,but better Late than Never,as they say.
Hopefully,ordinary Serbs,will agree with you,otherwise what's the point???
B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.
The TRUTH is the necessary pill required,4 brainwashed societies like Serbia.
Dean the GREAT,Berat,ALBANIA.

It will never be the right time to discuss about these ridiculous theories, founded on a false myth about Albanian Illyric heritage. As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule. It is easy to explain that fact, there is no a single medieval monument that testifies the existence of Albanians in the region. In spite of that, Serbian medieval monasteries are present in the every part of Kosovo and Metohija. So stop talking lies, start respecting Serbian history, and accept the reality that the western states, in cooperation with Turks, gave the living place to the Albanians in Kosovo, Greece and Albania.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

that is the problem Ned Taylor, pity that all those who committed war crimes cannot stand up and apologise, a great part of the blame for that lies at Western governments hands for not acknowledging the crimes committed against the Serbian people by other former Yugoslavs and certain Western governments. The Serbs are better off on their own than to have to live with those "other" people, why because they are never to be trusted the same as the west are not to be trusted either, the greatest aggressors of all.

People like you don't ever discuss all the facts, and should you ever wish to disclose all I hope you can live with the shame. You always speak as if the west are the good guys, I do not agree with you Mr Taylor as most people on the planet wouldn't agree either, apart from the Albanians Muslims and Croats of course, they always go along with the power of the time but as you know times do and will change.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

dean

Your Albanian people are committing crimes against Serbians in Kosovo everyday, attacks on young school kids, desecration of graves, murders of innocent people to drive them from their homes and land, grenade attacks on Serbian homes are a regular occurrence and all sanctioned by the war criminal thaci.

it is quite odd would you not say that the so called Albanian police never seem to catch their own people who commit crime. yes, apologies for those acts of crime are appropriate but I do not believe that the Albanian so called government in Kosovo are capable of such human decency, please prove me wrong in the above cases mentioned. As for your information dean, it was the Albanians who fought alongside the Nazis in Kosovo doing the same then as they do today, trying to ethnically cleanse the Serbians from their own land in Kosovo, it is the land that belongs to them and no statement issued from the US state department run by other war criminals can ever change that fact so get over yourself.

Mr Nikolic has done the right thing, you people will not because that is what you are and you do not like it when someone tells you so. And one more thing, I despise all who commit crimes against innocents regardless of who they are, two wrongs do not and never will make a right, at least Nikolic has done what apparently your hashish thaci the organ thief cannot do.

You have a nice day now dean.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

Like an apology from Nikolic would bring back more than 100 thousands killed in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Well at least he is going in the right direction and let's hope for a better future in the Balkans, but he needs to apologise to Kosovo too for their state sponsored crimes against Kosovo Albanians.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Mr. Censor were is my comment how we Croatians see it and we why refuse to meet the likes of a Tomislav Nikolić. Keep the Serbs in th dark and delusional doing a fantastic job.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

Michael Thomas......."happy to oblige Serbia's enemies....". This says more about you than about the President. Perhaps Nikolic is taking the sensible view that Croatia and Bosnia are partners. This nonsense about 'us' and 'them' has caused many of the problems from which the region is still recovering. No doubt you see Kosovo Albanians as another enemy and yet wonder at the same time why they did not want to be ruled over by Belgrade. I am no advocate of the UDI and believe that all sides committed their share of atrocities in the 1990s but your attitude will lead the Balkans backwards not forwards.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Simply amazing! An article about Serbia and Bosnia yet we have droves of talialbanians sticking their nose where it doesn't belong! What's wrong with you? Don't you have anywhere to be? Don't you have some organs to snatch or some timber to steal? You desire for attention its just unreal. Leave us the hell alone you freaks!

ivan

pre 11 godina

Serbs gave their lives to defend what is rightfully ours. You just destroyed whatever dignity the Serbs had remaining. What about the other side of the conflict, do you see anyone else begging for mercy? I knew you were nothing when you did a 360 at the time you first went to Russia "officialy" then claimed that it was "unofficial" only to appease our worst enemies. Go join the ranks of Tadic and the other sellouts. The only hope Serbia has left is an early election hopefully caused by internal conflict over this so called deal. Now that we've seen what Nikolic is all about, chances are slim he will be coming back.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule...
(Stavros, 25 April 2013 15:47)
Than how do you explain the presence of Orthodox and Catholic Albanians before Ottoman emipre?
How do you explain the presence of Catholic Albanians in Kosovo?Did they come with Ottomans too?
You greeko-pondes who come in Greece in 1922 make me laught.U come from Asia Minor not Albanians.

How do you explain the Orosh Church in Mirdita Albania dated since 10 cetury.How do you explain the church in Mborje Korca dated 1100 ac long before Ottomans came.
How do yoy explain that the population of Albania used to speak medivel albanian and were either Cathilic or Orthodox?Check the Albanians who live in South Italy,Ukraine etc before you make those redicilous statements.
Until 1800 the majority of albanians were Christians.In 1800 with the Tanzimat reforms most of them converted to Mulsim to pay less taxes and get better careers.
The village where my ancestors came dated back to 1200 ac.They all sopoke albananian and were Christian.The same goes for Catholic Albanians who use to live in Noth and Kosovo.

As for the subject,finally Serbia is going into the right direction.Hope next step will be apoligizing for the crimes commited against Albanians in Kosovo.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

He told Bosnian BHT TV that the genocide in Srebrenica needed to be proven first but added that he was “on his knees, asking for forgiveness for Serbia”.

- A step in the right direction, Mr. President! I hope there's more where that came from.

Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. If ever an objective history is written about the Albanians, then their “Golden Age” will be the years under Serbian rule. I fear their darkest years are still ahead of them and will not end until NATO is no more.
(Michael Thomas

What a dumb statement! During commie days, Albania was a horrendous place to live. Hoxha thought that Stalin was a weak dictator. Using Albania as a benchmark during those days is a silly thing to do.

But, in 1999 residents of Albania had a better standard of living than Albanians in Kosovo.
Look how many new buildings went up in Kosovo when Serbia was in charge and look how much building went on after the war.

If I were to wish the same 'Golden Age' upon the Serbs worldwide that Kosovars enjoyed during Serbian reign would you considmer me a friend of foe?

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

It will never be the right time to discuss about these ridiculous theories, founded on a false myth about Albanian Illyric heritage. As a Greek, I am completely sure that Albanians were settled in the Balkan peninsula from Asia, during the Ottoman rule. It is easy to explain that fact, there is no a single medieval monument that testifies the existence of Albanians in the region. In spite of that, Serbian medieval monasteries are present in the every part of Kosovo and Metohija. So stop talking lies, start respecting Serbian history, and accept the reality that the western states, in cooperation with Turks, gave the living place to the Albanians in Kosovo, Greece and Albania.
Stavros

Stavros, Learn your own history first. Don't try to preach about something you know very little about. I'm sure you have asiatic blood in you.

BTW, when's the last time Greece held a census? What do they have to hide?

Arn.

pre 11 godina

The Signature Michael Tomas has the Point !.
I Quote -

"When are the Bosnian Moslem leaders going to apologise of slaughtering Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica prior to its liberation?".

Comment -

Those Militant Muslims from Srebrenica Destroyen 3 Serbian Villages,
and Murdered all Serbian Civilians - Men-Women-Children.

The Serbian Punishment of those Militans is no Genoside,
The Serbian Presiden speacs like a Budala.

Arn.

Visitor from Tirana Albania

pre 11 godina

STAVROS
What a shocking surprise…..
So Albanians Stavros came in Albania today during Ottoman Empire?
WE ALL know here that Ottoman Empire conquered Albania in 1478.
Before 1478 there was a 30 years of Albanian resistance with Scanderbeg against Ottoman Empire.
Are you telling us here that those who fought Ottoman Empire before 1478 with Scanderbeg were NOT Albanians?

Your comments are base on hate and religion intolerance.

PS: As of Albanians came from Asia you are mixing it with population exchange from Asia to Greece.
Assimilation of Albanians was done nicely in Greece.
There is a “but” though…. you might be Albanian and you don’t know it.

Dean

pre 11 godina

''...As a Greek, I am completely SURE that.....''
(Stavros, 25 April 2013 15:47)
So,being a ''greek'',it means that you are always Right,and Never Wrong???
Please Stavros, don't be so RIDICULOUS.
This is a story between Albanians and Serbs and has nothing to do with you.Mind your own business and STOP playing the man who knows almost everything.
B.t.w.,''Dear'' Stavros, we are ''gathered'' here to talk about CRIMES Serbs committed in Bosnia and the Apology of the President of Serbia.
You will be more than welcome to express your Opinion about Bosnia,instead of talking with Certainty about the history of ''Homos Balcanicus''.

We Love Lenard's Antics

pre 11 godina

Mr. Censor were is my comment how we Croatians see it and we why refuse to meet the likes of a Tomislav Nikolić. Keep the Serbs in th dark and delusional doing a fantastic job.
(Lenard, 25 April 2013 19:16)

Because Lenny sweety, banging your head on the keyboard to mash out a comment because your arms and hands are still in the straightjacket the doctors put you in every night before they tuck you in for bed tends to result in a lot of grammatical mistakes - more than you usually write when you have use of your fingers. The moderator usually removes comments that make no sense. It's best they censored your comment. They're doing you a favor in saving what little reputation you still have around here beyond the clown you're known to be.

Love and big wet kisses,

The B92 Lenard Fan Club.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

NIkolic failed to mention that before the Srebrenica massacre the forces of general Oric has massacred hundreds Serb civilians in nearbz villages attacking them from Srebrenica.y to do in order to get accession to EU...
(sceptic, 26 April 2013 00:19)

Of course, it would be silly to mention those things without also mentioning that most of those villages were originally Bosniak villages, ethnically cleansed by Serbs at the beginning of the conflict.

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

@ Reality...More recently, Serbs have shown more remorse to certain crimes that were committed, weather we did them or not, civilizations were harmed due to our war, its time for Muslims and Croats to step up to the plate and do the same.

So why should the Croats & Bosniaks step up to the plate when the entire world knows that it was the Serbs who committed Genocide in BiH. It's like the Jews apologising to the NAZI's for being in Europe in 1941.

Denis

pre 11 godina

I think the region should hold several reconciliation forums where we all sit down and discuss our differences in this area. We should discuss history, borders, lawsuits, who should apologize to whom etc.

We need to reconcile and work together if we want to move ahead especially economically.

Stavros, this is a probelm with you bail out greeks. You want to look like a western European but you truly are the most Byzantine minded nation of all the Balkans. That's why you have been living on Europes money for 200 years now. Does it matter really when albanians came to the Balkans? Many historians think that today Greeks are a mix of Egyptians and SubSaharian races brought in by the Turks. In fact you do have that year round tan more than any other nation in Balkans.

Yet nothing of this matters. What matters is that we are all here, and we look back and think backwards. Germans are not going to bail you out forever. You and every Balkan nation has to find sustainable solutions for their future, and no such solution exist without a regional cooperation.

So take your hate somewhere else Stavro

Santo

pre 11 godina

I agree that President Nokolic addresses excuses for the Srebrenica massacre, but it is time also for trhe Croats and Bosniaks to do the same. Massacres have been committed by all sides and victimisation of the Serbs only does not help with reconciliation.

sceptic

pre 11 godina

NIkolic failed to mention that before the Srebrenica massacre the forces of general Oric has massacred hundreds Serb civilians in nearbz villages attacking them from Srebrenica. THe war in Bosnia Erzegovina was civil but since the president of Serbia asks for apology it is obvious that Serbia is also responsible and aggressor (otherwise the apology is meaningless and probably should be asked to pay war compensations and Serbian Republic should be considered as a product of invasion). I wonder what are the Serb leaders ready to do in order to get accession to EU...

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Dean

why don't you have a rest and give your backside a chance to breath!!

The war is over and we can't turn back the clock but we can and should make the world including KOSOVO a safer and secure place for our kids and generations to come, ALL OUR KIDS!! Enough of hate yes, it takes a stronger man to say sorry, are you strong Dean??!!

Stavros

pre 11 godina

I am not a hater, I am speaking the truth. The truth that hurts You Albanians. First of all, mr. Dean started this ridiculous conversation, mentioning the Ilyrians and Dardania.

Dean said: "B.t.w.,now is the right time to explain to ordinary Serbs that DARDANIA(Kosova) it is not the ''cradle of Serbian civilization''.

Sorry, but that was a insult for me, no matter because I am a Greek who lives and works with Serbians. It is absolutely true that Kosovo and Metohija is a holy Serbian land, stolen by the Albanians.
Than, please don't speak about Skenderbeg, because he was a Serbian origin. His father was the prince of Epir, Jovan Kastrioti, and mother's name was Vojislava. His brothers and sisters were named Stanisa, Costantine, Mara, Jelena, Andjelina, Vlajka... Albanian, for sure (laugh!). You are well-known by stealing lands and history of the other nations.

Dean said: "This is a story between Albanians and Serbs and has nothing to do with you.Mind your own business and STOP playing the man who knows almost everything.
B.t.w.,''Dear'' Stavros, we are ''gathered'' here to talk about CRIMES Serbs committed in Bosnia and the Apology of the President of Serbia."

Ok, why have you started conversation on that level? What is about your nation here? Ok, it is a story about Serbians and Bosnians, the apology of the Serbian President, which I support and realize correctly. That matters, and your freaking story does not!

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Than, please don't speak about Skenderbeg, because he was a Serbian origin."

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skenderbeg]

people who fought with Skenderbeg [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbëreshë_people]

but do you know what? you have Skenderbeg if it makes you happy, we'll take Kosova. fair deal :-)

Van der Goor

pre 11 godina

It is never late to ask for forgiveness for crimes committed in the name of whole nation. Mr. Nikolic was named as a nationalist, but he realized that the path of reconciliation is the only right one in the region. Some will condemn this decision, but everyone who is looking forward to the future will say that the President Nikolic has done a right move.

Lucy

pre 11 godina

We as a people are so irritated by Tadic's loud apologies, that when a statesman send a reasonable excuse, like Nikolic now, everyone complains .. we should learn to make a difference.

True.calls

pre 11 godina

I'm glad that Mr. Nikolic creates good neighborly relations. This can be very important for Serbia both now and in the future.

Capo Di Tutti Capi

pre 11 godina

I'm glad that Nikolic has finally matured as a statesman, and that he, no longer, has that war/conflict rhetoric. Good gesture!

Kosta

pre 11 godina

@Comm. Parrisson: To be fair, Albanians brought Milosevic into power. When Tito died, Serbia had the most benign political elite (Ckrebic, Stambolic, Pavlovic, Bogdan Bogdanovic etc.) and Albanians were doing well indeed (Fadilj Hodza and Sinan Hasani were Presidents of SFRJ). However, for some reasons that was not enough and riots started (Kosovo Republic). This is what induced Serbian reaction. Without Albanian uprising in Kosovo 1980/81 nobody today would know who Slobodan Milosevic is.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Good move by the president and I hope that it will set an example for other groups from former yugoslavia that committed hiddious crimes, albanians, muslims and croats to be exact. Noone is irresponsible for the killings of hundreds of thousands of poor souls of them being serbs, albanians, muslims and croats. A life is a life no matter what color on the skin you have and no matter what nationality someone belongs to. I hope that albanians, muslims and croats one day will realize what they did and apologizes for the murdering of serb civilians. After all we all have one life so why dont try to make the best of it, whether we want it or not we still have to live amongst eachother. Balcans have seen enough of dead and killings. Lets all try to make it a better place to live for all of us.

reality

pre 11 godina

I see this as a step in the right direction. Also, this type of behavior should be seen by croats/bosnians as we need to push forward. We dont have to be united with each other but we can respect each other and look at each other as pawns. All we ever wanted was to have our own state?

We embarrass ourselves because other nationalities look at us as the same yet due to our religion we cause chaos and we cannot accept each other..

It doesn't matter if your croation, albanian, montenegrin "though you are higher class serbs in reality", or bosnians.. We all have similar blood and deserve to have our own countries but its time we start showing some respect towards each other..

More recently, Serbs have shown more remorse to certain crimes that were committed, weather we did them or not, civilizations were harmed due to our war, its time for Muslims and Croats to step up to the plate and do the same.

War is a horrible state to live in and most people on this blog have not experienced it and it causes Post Traumatic Stress and it can be passed on through genetics. So it is best to end this drama and look toward the future.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

the B92 Lenard Fan club
(We Love Lenard's Antics)

LOL!! Still can't stop laughing at that, and please keep them coming LOL!!

You have no idea how much reading this has cheered me up.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Before the arrival of NATO, the Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a standard of living and education far greater than those in Albania, and far better than they have today. "
(Michael Thomas

You probably mean: Before the arrival of Milosevic in Serbian politics, Albanians in Kosovo enjoyed a rather good standard of living.

Anna

pre 11 godina

It is not enough just to show patriotism in bars, away from the problems of the ordinary people. It is a great thing to show it in this way, to apologize for the benefit of your people. Dear neighbors, now it's your turn to apologize over crimes against Serbs.

Granny-in-disguise

pre 11 godina

Even though I knew this was going to happen, I must admit I am a bit surprised by the maturity and seriousness this government has so far demonstrated. Great move! Really big gesture. This government has certainly opened some doors that have been closed for us for decades!

The Balkans

pre 11 godina

So why should the Croats & Bosniaks step up to the plate when the entire world knows that it was the Serbs who committed Genocide in BiH. It's like the Jews apologising to the NAZI's for being in Europe in 1941.
(Bam Bam, 27 April 2013 07:32)

Because most of the world doesn't seem to notice that there are always two sides to a war, or any other conflict.

But really, funny that you should mention Nazis...you're a Croat ultranationalist, right?