Kosovo is part of Serbia, first deputy PM says

Kosovo is part of Serbia, first deputy PM says
Really!?
Yesterday I read how many Serbs respect Vucic for negotiating on behalf of Serbs and being practical.

I don't see how anyone can respect someone who flat our lies to their people by saying that Kosovo is part of Serbia.

If I were Serb I would ask Mr. Vucic the following question:
'Mr. Vucic, can you please tell me how Kosovo is still part of Serbia?'

“Those who say that Kosovo has been recognized are lying, you cannot see that anywhere in the agreement,” Vučić added.

Yes, just like those who say that Kosovo is part of Serbia - you cannot see that anywhere in the agreement :)

Sure, sure, if you say so. hehehe. Now you can sleep better at night.

If you look closely at the pic of Vucic, you can see the glittery and shiny fairy dust falling out of his finger tips! Lol

Oops! Seriously?

Mr. Vucic, which uniform will the police be wearing in N. Kosovo?

Vucic how is it going with the death threats you receiving? lol
Banana republik

http://www.gazetaexpress.com/mobile/?cid=1,13,109535

You lying aswell, where is in the agreement that Kosovo army cannot go to north?
You have given up-well done! But be carefull because criminals from north sending you SMS... Threatening you.
But you've done good thing that no one before you could not do.
What you say now it does not really matter.

Stop the B/S Vucic, you sold out Kosovo. I've read the Serbian end of B92 that Vucic and Dacic are receiving death threats. In addition, The Kosovo Serbs are against the deal. The Serbian people are funny in some aspects. First, they elect the DS for the longest of time. These are the very people that started the selling process. They then vote for a spineless coward, such as Nikolic. Now they are threatening the very people they voted for. Dacic had his chance when he was allied with the DS. He simply could've broken the coalition, but he did not! Why? Because his political aspirations are more important than Serbia and the Serbs. Why didn't the Serbs vote for the Radicals or the DSS? I agree with Putin, the Serbs have to determine what is in their interest, then pursue it with Russia covering their backs, and this also means war. Russia would support them with the state of the art military equipment, but does the spineless Nikolic have the guts? I personally do not believe the US would have any support to do what they did in 1999 because Europe could not stomach that again. I think the US has their hands full with Iran and North Korea.

Aleksandar Vucic's statement that Kosovo is part of the Republic of Serbia should be respected, and nobody from EU doesn't expect that to change. This was the last chance for Serbia to prove her efforts in European integration process. The deal, which should be confirmed in both Parliaments, is a clear sign that Serbian state leaders are looking forward to the future.

Well, Serbia is going to be allowed to continue to pay for schools and hospitals (not the police, though), so maybe he's got that in mind.

It's good that the EU insisted that he be included on the negotiating team - can you just imagine what he would be saying now about the agreement (not to mention Dacic) if the PM been the only one present? Now SNS supporters have to modify their stories a bit - Serbia got the best deal possible because Vucic was there. Even if his supporters are unhappy, they'll most likely not interfere with the agreement's implementation now. (VV is doing its best to reassure Serbs that they actually won by going after Thaci, but most people commenting on the story here at B92 don't seem taken in. Oh, well, it was worth a try.)

I saw the cell phone screen shots of the threats he mentions on B92 Serbian - problem is, they had yesterday's date and time, before the agreements were initialized. Now, I am not saying Mr. Vucic is lying, but strange for such an important man not to have his cell phone with the correct time/date settings, no?

Serbs wherever they live, in Serbia, Kosovo or abroad it is not acceptable to make threats, in fact it is criminal. Which means you make threats = you are a criminal.

It is not easy to shoulder the responsibility of your government, this situations is as a result of a collective behavior of the last 20-30 years. I would not feel too sorry for SNS and SPS though as they have been responsible for much of what went on in the past.

One can not support their leaders one day because it suits you and threaten them the next because you no longer agree with them, considering they are trying their best.

Serbia does however have a strong Military, Police Force and Secret Services all currently controlled mostly by Vucic. I don't think there is anybody today that can seriously threaten Vucic and get away with it, and if this happens it only happens as he chooses not to do much about it, possibly because he hes more impotent tasks at hand, like leading his Party and the Country to a better future from the mess Serbia is in.

I personally do not believe the US would have any support to do what they did in 1999 because Europe could not stomach that again. I think the US has their hands full with Iran and North Korea.
(ivan, 20 April 2013 22:54)

Ivan - Thank you for that critical analysis. Its amazing how so many people out there forget about the past. Its amazing how many people are doomed by repeating the same mistake. Learn from your heroes like Milosevic and Mladic and Saddam and Qaddafi and hundreds of thousands of people buried in the ground or in jail that decided to take on the USA. They all believed that the USA would not fight. How stupid does one have to be to continue to believe that nonsense?

Push the USA, threaten them, attack them and they will mess your world up. Serbia got a taste of it in 1998 from 20,000 ft above. 38,000 sorties! No allied fatalities and only 2 aircraft shot down. Serbia capitulated after only 80+ days.

Who is he kidding? If Kosovo still is a part of Serbia then why does Serbia negotiate with a part of its territory? That makes no sense. Serbia negotiates because it realises that in Kosovo exists a different political entity where the laws of the serbian state are not applied. The Serb politicians should be more frank and tell the people that Kosovo has been lost and cannot be regained through diplomacy in which Serbia is not very efficient anyway. Their efforts focus on minimising the losses. There's nothing wrong with that but they should be sincere and leave all this big talk about securing the future of the children or protecting the Kosovo Serbs. In this epoch we're living noone can secure or protect anything.
Anyway i think that the time is so crucial and the level of Serb politicians so low that this agreement should be presented to the serbian people and ratified by the people via a referendum. The shoulders of the Serb politicians are too small to bear this kind of weight.

Russia would support them with the state of the art military equipment, but does the spineless Nikolic have the guts?
(ivan, 20 April 2013 22:54)

Yeah, sure like Russia did in 2003 when Putin withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo.

van

How did Vucic sell out his people? If you haven't noticed Kosovo is not under serb control. We didn't hand over Kosovo in these negotiations. What Vucic did was to hightlight the plight and the legitimate rights of serbs in Kosovo. What was negotiated goes beyond the Ahtisari plan. Their status have been recognized and they will have their right to run their own lives. The deal didn't include the recognition of Kosovo which means serbs and albanians are left to interpret Kosovos status any way they want. Besides, albanians are no rejoicing about the deal. I didn't see any albanians celebrating on the streets of Pristina. As long as serbs can run their own lives in norht Kosovo without albanian interfearance its good enough for me.
(MikeC, 21 April 2013 10:31)

Local affairs are dealt with local Municipalities anywhere in the civilized countries.But, if they step out of line the central government has to step in. So, in sense I agree with you, but I thought you claimed the cradle of Serbia is south of Ibar! I congratulate Serbia and Kosova for this agreement,despite the fact that criminal thugs up north would like to run their own affairs and hold hostage both countries. These same people have no desire to take orders from Belgrade either, since it suits their criminal agenda. Think about it!

They are not serious threats, just text messages on his phone from extreme radicalists which deserve prosecution...

ignore them Vucic, you know they're little puppets and can do nothing, stupid radicals... You have our support vucic, go ahead!!
The text messages are in his facebook if you people would like to see them...

Many comments pointed against Vucic here. I wonder if IPs are from Kosovo and Metohija? Yes, i have read the agreement and it clearly states that Serbia recognized Kosovo as independent. Also, powerful countries like Russia and Chine also agrred to recognize it. Oh wait a minute...

LOL! The deal abolishes all links between Belgrade and Kosova serbs and makes it so that serbs have no power in kosova. Pristina appoints the police chief in serb areas? LOL! Belgrade has no power. How about the customs agents on the border and the ambassador dejan pavicevic!

Stop the B/S Vucic, you sold out Kosovo. I've read the Serbian end of B92 that Vucic and Dacic are receiving death threats. In addition, The Kosovo Serbs are against the deal.
(ivan, 20 April 2013 22:54)

Really?! Kosovo Serbs just expressed 10 days ago their support for the Serbian leadership...

Vucic, Kosovo is NOT a part of Serbia, no matter how many times you repeat it. It is not controlled by Serbia, and the degenerates are free to do as they please at the detriment of the Serbs. It's either we fight for it, or we let it go. This stupid repetition is becoming nauseating because there is a different reality on the ground. Keep repeating it and one day YOU (Vucic) might believe it! You have the support of the Russians, so get off your gutless a**.

@Winston

Nice spin. I can do that too. Look. Who will choose the regional police commander in N. Kosovo? Hmm? Its just words...

If I were Serb I would ask Mr. Vucic the following question:
'Mr. Vucic, can you please tell me how Kosovo is still part of Serbia?'
(cry me a river, 20 April 2013 17:54)

Kosovo is temporarily occupied part of Serbia.

@Winston

Nice spin. Who will choose the regional police commander for N. Kosovo?
Its all words...

I especially like the fact that Kosovo wont have a chair at the UN.

@ivan

It would appear that you neglected to mention that Albanians are also very pissed about the agreement, and that they also call Thaci a traitor in Pristina. That's the thing, in compromise none of the parties involved are fully satisfied.

Ivan

How did Vucic sell out his people? If you haven't noticed Kosovo is not under serb control. We didn't hand over Kosovo in these negotiations. What Vucic did was to hightlight the plight and the legitimate rights of serbs in Kosovo. What was negotiated goes beyond the Ahtisari plan. Their status have been recognized and they will have their right to run their own lives. The deal didn't include the recognition of Kosovo which means serbs and albanians are left to interpret Kosovos status any way they want. Besides, albanians are no rejoicing about the deal. I didn't see any albanians celebrating on the streets of Pristina. As long as serbs can run their own lives in norht Kosovo without albanian interfearance its good enough for me.

@ivan: You seem to be slightly confused. If you didn't know, in Serbia live more than one individual so, as an example, those who threaten Nikolic are not the same ones that voted for him. Different people think and do different things. I hope that this helps.

No one has sold Kosovo. Vucic did his best and deserves respect. It's easy for you to say, Albanian.

MikeC what is the problem with seeing the facts. North Kosova was under Kosova serb control now it will be under total Albanian control with no autonomy for serbs in any way. Pristina will appoint its police chief and kosova troops will be allowed there whenever they say.

Aleksandar Vucic's statement that Kosovo is part of the Republic of Serbia should be respected, and nobody from EU doesn't expect that to change. This was the last chance for Serbia to prove her efforts in European integration process. The deal, which should be confirmed in both Parliaments, is a clear sign that Serbian state leaders are looking forward to the future.

Stop the B/S Vucic, you sold out Kosovo. I've read the Serbian end of B92 that Vucic and Dacic are receiving death threats. In addition, The Kosovo Serbs are against the deal. The Serbian people are funny in some aspects. First, they elect the DS for the longest of time. These are the very people that started the selling process. They then vote for a spineless coward, such as Nikolic. Now they are threatening the very people they voted for. Dacic had his chance when he was allied with the DS. He simply could've broken the coalition, but he did not! Why? Because his political aspirations are more important than Serbia and the Serbs. Why didn't the Serbs vote for the Radicals or the DSS? I agree with Putin, the Serbs have to determine what is in their interest, then pursue it with Russia covering their backs, and this also means war. Russia would support them with the state of the art military equipment, but does the spineless Nikolic have the guts? I personally do not believe the US would have any support to do what they did in 1999 because Europe could not stomach that again. I think the US has their hands full with Iran and North Korea.

Kosovo is part of Serbia, first deputy PM says
Really!?
Yesterday I read how many Serbs respect Vucic for negotiating on behalf of Serbs and being practical.

I don't see how anyone can respect someone who flat our lies to their people by saying that Kosovo is part of Serbia.

If I were Serb I would ask Mr. Vucic the following question:
'Mr. Vucic, can you please tell me how Kosovo is still part of Serbia?'

You lying aswell, where is in the agreement that Kosovo army cannot go to north?
You have given up-well done! But be carefull because criminals from north sending you SMS... Threatening you.
But you've done good thing that no one before you could not do.
What you say now it does not really matter.

Serbs wherever they live, in Serbia, Kosovo or abroad it is not acceptable to make threats, in fact it is criminal. Which means you make threats = you are a criminal.

It is not easy to shoulder the responsibility of your government, this situations is as a result of a collective behavior of the last 20-30 years. I would not feel too sorry for SNS and SPS though as they have been responsible for much of what went on in the past.

One can not support their leaders one day because it suits you and threaten them the next because you no longer agree with them, considering they are trying their best.

Serbia does however have a strong Military, Police Force and Secret Services all currently controlled mostly by Vucic. I don't think there is anybody today that can seriously threaten Vucic and get away with it, and if this happens it only happens as he chooses not to do much about it, possibly because he hes more impotent tasks at hand, like leading his Party and the Country to a better future from the mess Serbia is in.

“Those who say that Kosovo has been recognized are lying, you cannot see that anywhere in the agreement,” Vučić added.

Yes, just like those who say that Kosovo is part of Serbia - you cannot see that anywhere in the agreement :)

Many comments pointed against Vucic here. I wonder if IPs are from Kosovo and Metohija? Yes, i have read the agreement and it clearly states that Serbia recognized Kosovo as independent. Also, powerful countries like Russia and Chine also agrred to recognize it. Oh wait a minute...

No one has sold Kosovo. Vucic did his best and deserves respect. It's easy for you to say, Albanian.

Sure, sure, if you say so. hehehe. Now you can sleep better at night.

ignore them Vucic, you know they're little puppets and can do nothing, stupid radicals... You have our support vucic, go ahead!!
The text messages are in his facebook if you people would like to see them...

Ivan

How did Vucic sell out his people? If you haven't noticed Kosovo is not under serb control. We didn't hand over Kosovo in these negotiations. What Vucic did was to hightlight the plight and the legitimate rights of serbs in Kosovo. What was negotiated goes beyond the Ahtisari plan. Their status have been recognized and they will have their right to run their own lives. The deal didn't include the recognition of Kosovo which means serbs and albanians are left to interpret Kosovos status any way they want. Besides, albanians are no rejoicing about the deal. I didn't see any albanians celebrating on the streets of Pristina. As long as serbs can run their own lives in norht Kosovo without albanian interfearance its good enough for me.

If I were Serb I would ask Mr. Vucic the following question:
'Mr. Vucic, can you please tell me how Kosovo is still part of Serbia?'
(cry me a river, 20 April 2013 17:54)

Kosovo is temporarily occupied part of Serbia.

If you look closely at the pic of Vucic, you can see the glittery and shiny fairy dust falling out of his finger tips! Lol

Vucic how is it going with the death threats you receiving? lol
Banana republik

http://www.gazetaexpress.com/mobile/?cid=1,13,109535

They are not serious threats, just text messages on his phone from extreme radicalists which deserve prosecution...

I especially like the fact that Kosovo wont have a chair at the UN.

@ivan

It would appear that you neglected to mention that Albanians are also very pissed about the agreement, and that they also call Thaci a traitor in Pristina. That's the thing, in compromise none of the parties involved are fully satisfied.

Stop the B/S Vucic, you sold out Kosovo. I've read the Serbian end of B92 that Vucic and Dacic are receiving death threats. In addition, The Kosovo Serbs are against the deal.
(ivan, 20 April 2013 22:54)

Really?! Kosovo Serbs just expressed 10 days ago their support for the Serbian leadership...

Oops! Seriously?

Well, Serbia is going to be allowed to continue to pay for schools and hospitals (not the police, though), so maybe he's got that in mind.

It's good that the EU insisted that he be included on the negotiating team - can you just imagine what he would be saying now about the agreement (not to mention Dacic) if the PM been the only one present? Now SNS supporters have to modify their stories a bit - Serbia got the best deal possible because Vucic was there. Even if his supporters are unhappy, they'll most likely not interfere with the agreement's implementation now. (VV is doing its best to reassure Serbs that they actually won by going after Thaci, but most people commenting on the story here at B92 don't seem taken in. Oh, well, it was worth a try.)

I saw the cell phone screen shots of the threats he mentions on B92 Serbian - problem is, they had yesterday's date and time, before the agreements were initialized. Now, I am not saying Mr. Vucic is lying, but strange for such an important man not to have his cell phone with the correct time/date settings, no?

Mr. Vucic, which uniform will the police be wearing in N. Kosovo?

@ivan: You seem to be slightly confused. If you didn't know, in Serbia live more than one individual so, as an example, those who threaten Nikolic are not the same ones that voted for him. Different people think and do different things. I hope that this helps.

Russia would support them with the state of the art military equipment, but does the spineless Nikolic have the guts?
(ivan, 20 April 2013 22:54)

Yeah, sure like Russia did in 2003 when Putin withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo.

@Winston

Nice spin. I can do that too. Look. Who will choose the regional police commander in N. Kosovo? Hmm? Its just words...

I personally do not believe the US would have any support to do what they did in 1999 because Europe could not stomach that again. I think the US has their hands full with Iran and North Korea.
(ivan, 20 April 2013 22:54)

Ivan - Thank you for that critical analysis. Its amazing how so many people out there forget about the past. Its amazing how many people are doomed by repeating the same mistake. Learn from your heroes like Milosevic and Mladic and Saddam and Qaddafi and hundreds of thousands of people buried in the ground or in jail that decided to take on the USA. They all believed that the USA would not fight. How stupid does one have to be to continue to believe that nonsense?

Push the USA, threaten them, attack them and they will mess your world up. Serbia got a taste of it in 1998 from 20,000 ft above. 38,000 sorties! No allied fatalities and only 2 aircraft shot down. Serbia capitulated after only 80+ days.

@Winston

Nice spin. Who will choose the regional police commander for N. Kosovo?
Its all words...

van

How did Vucic sell out his people? If you haven't noticed Kosovo is not under serb control. We didn't hand over Kosovo in these negotiations. What Vucic did was to hightlight the plight and the legitimate rights of serbs in Kosovo. What was negotiated goes beyond the Ahtisari plan. Their status have been recognized and they will have their right to run their own lives. The deal didn't include the recognition of Kosovo which means serbs and albanians are left to interpret Kosovos status any way they want. Besides, albanians are no rejoicing about the deal. I didn't see any albanians celebrating on the streets of Pristina. As long as serbs can run their own lives in norht Kosovo without albanian interfearance its good enough for me.
(MikeC, 21 April 2013 10:31)

Local affairs are dealt with local Municipalities anywhere in the civilized countries.But, if they step out of line the central government has to step in. So, in sense I agree with you, but I thought you claimed the cradle of Serbia is south of Ibar! I congratulate Serbia and Kosova for this agreement,despite the fact that criminal thugs up north would like to run their own affairs and hold hostage both countries. These same people have no desire to take orders from Belgrade either, since it suits their criminal agenda. Think about it!

LOL! The deal abolishes all links between Belgrade and Kosova serbs and makes it so that serbs have no power in kosova. Pristina appoints the police chief in serb areas? LOL! Belgrade has no power. How about the customs agents on the border and the ambassador dejan pavicevic!

Vucic, Kosovo is NOT a part of Serbia, no matter how many times you repeat it. It is not controlled by Serbia, and the degenerates are free to do as they please at the detriment of the Serbs. It's either we fight for it, or we let it go. This stupid repetition is becoming nauseating because there is a different reality on the ground. Keep repeating it and one day YOU (Vucic) might believe it! You have the support of the Russians, so get off your gutless a**.

Who is he kidding? If Kosovo still is a part of Serbia then why does Serbia negotiate with a part of its territory? That makes no sense. Serbia negotiates because it realises that in Kosovo exists a different political entity where the laws of the serbian state are not applied. The Serb politicians should be more frank and tell the people that Kosovo has been lost and cannot be regained through diplomacy in which Serbia is not very efficient anyway. Their efforts focus on minimising the losses. There's nothing wrong with that but they should be sincere and leave all this big talk about securing the future of the children or protecting the Kosovo Serbs. In this epoch we're living noone can secure or protect anything.
Anyway i think that the time is so crucial and the level of Serb politicians so low that this agreement should be presented to the serbian people and ratified by the people via a referendum. The shoulders of the Serb politicians are too small to bear this kind of weight.

MikeC what is the problem with seeing the facts. North Kosova was under Kosova serb control now it will be under total Albanian control with no autonomy for serbs in any way. Pristina will appoint its police chief and kosova troops will be allowed there whenever they say.