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Saturday, 20.04.2013.

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“Agreement does not mean recognition of Kosovo”

An agreement reached in Brussels is a maximum in given, very unfavorable circumstances but it does not mean a recognition of Kosovo.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

How can we assure that? Since the interpretation of the separatists in Pristina that it was a so called recognition of their so called independence...
(PRO-SERBIA, 21 April 2013 11:42)

Since when do you care about the interpretation of low forms of life like the separatists in Pristina :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

A "country" which cannot join the UN, is not a country at all.
(Ari Gold, 20 April 2013 14:50)

So, Serbia was not a country until 1945?! Switzerland was not a country until 2002?! Vatican is not a country?! Ukraine was a country from 1945 to 1990?!

So, you are saying that only the UN can recognize a country ?!

PRO-SERBIA

pre 11 godina

How can we assure that? Since the interpretation of the separatists in Pristina that it was a so called recognition of their so called independence..
There is no need for EU membership and Serbia will survive without the EU..

Adem

pre 11 godina

Typically srebian plan-
1. Recognise Kosova
2. Get lots of money from west
3. Put money in own pockets and sell nationaliusm to people
4. Deny recognisition of Kosova
5. Restart above procedure

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

As far as membership in the UN is concerned. Once Kosovo gains 120 recognitions, neither Russia nor China would block Kosovo's application because that would be against the will of the majority of the world's countries.

I didn't read this nonsense. The most the KLA can expect is to one day reach the level of Palestine which is not a UN seat. A "country" which cannot join the UN, is not a country at all.

And whatever you have gotten thus far, the Serbian government has allowed you to have. When those who govern are no longer in office, you wont be able to take any concession the gov't has given you for granted.

Teslavio

pre 11 godina

Albanians keep thinking that Russia and China are blocking Kosovo because of Serbia. They are very wrong. Both Russia and China would change their mind tomorrow for the right price regardless of what Serbia want. If Kosovo is so important to the West they will have to pay a very high price for it. And I am not talking about money because the East already have plenty of it. Problem is there is nothing the West can offer to the East at the moment and for the foreseeable future. So Albanians have to learn to live in limbo for a very long time, several generations probably.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

First of all why does a sovereign country sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory? WHY? I want an explanation, Ari Gold!

A sovereign country did not sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory. The Serbian Government is attempting to sign an agreement with the temporary occupiers of Kosovo i Metohija. Whatever agreement is in place is only valuable for as long as this government is in power.

There's your explanation. And no the KLA will never join the UN.

CH

pre 11 godina

First of all why does a sovereign country sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory? WHY? I want an explanation, Ari Gold!

Yesterday the EP passed a resolution calling the five non-recognizing countries to join the majority of the EU. Slovakia and Romania hinted that they would changed their stance once the two sides agree on normalization of relations. Let's wait and see. Greece recognized Kosovo de facto a long time ago. Spain has its own problems and doesn't care about this issue. These 5 countries will not block Kosovo's integration. That's what Serbia initialled.

As far as membership in the UN is concerned. Once Kosovo gains 120 recognitions, neither Russia nor China would block Kosovo's application because that would be against the will of the majority of the world's countries.
If you look at the Russian media's you can see that Russians think that Serbia recognized Kosovo. Tadic cheated Russia when it changed the UNGA Resolution that calls for the dialogue under EU auspices. They will not block Kosovo once a huge majority recognized it just for Serbia. Russia would loose her credibility and influence. And for what? for something that the serbs did on their own.

Do you really think that Kosovo would have accepted this agreement fearing that it could be blocked in the UN. NO WAY!


CH

CH

pre 11 godina

First of all why does a sovereign country sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory? WHY? I want an explanation, Ari Gold!

Yesterday the EP passed a resolution calling the five non-recognizing countries to join the majority of the EU. Slovakia and Romania hinted that they would changed their stance once the two sides agree on normalization of relations. Let's wait and see. Greece recognized Kosovo de facto a long time ago. Spain has its own problems and doesn't care about this issue. These 5 countries will not block Kosovo's integration. That's what Serbia initialled.

As far as membership in the UN is concerned. Once Kosovo gains 120 recognitions, neither Russia nor China would block Kosovo's application because that would be against the will of the majority of the world's countries.
If you look at the Russian media's you can see that Russians think that Serbia recognized Kosovo. Tadic cheated Russia when it changed the UNGA Resolution that calls for the dialogue under EU auspices. They will not block Kosovo once a huge majority recognized it just for Serbia. Russia would loose her credibility and influence. And for what? for something that the serbs did on their own.

Do you really think that Kosovo would have accepted this agreement fearing that it could be blocked in the UN. NO WAY!


CH

Adem

pre 11 godina

Typically srebian plan-
1. Recognise Kosova
2. Get lots of money from west
3. Put money in own pockets and sell nationaliusm to people
4. Deny recognisition of Kosova
5. Restart above procedure

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

As far as membership in the UN is concerned. Once Kosovo gains 120 recognitions, neither Russia nor China would block Kosovo's application because that would be against the will of the majority of the world's countries.

I didn't read this nonsense. The most the KLA can expect is to one day reach the level of Palestine which is not a UN seat. A "country" which cannot join the UN, is not a country at all.

And whatever you have gotten thus far, the Serbian government has allowed you to have. When those who govern are no longer in office, you wont be able to take any concession the gov't has given you for granted.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

First of all why does a sovereign country sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory? WHY? I want an explanation, Ari Gold!

A sovereign country did not sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory. The Serbian Government is attempting to sign an agreement with the temporary occupiers of Kosovo i Metohija. Whatever agreement is in place is only valuable for as long as this government is in power.

There's your explanation. And no the KLA will never join the UN.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 11 godina

How can we assure that? Since the interpretation of the separatists in Pristina that it was a so called recognition of their so called independence..
There is no need for EU membership and Serbia will survive without the EU..

Teslavio

pre 11 godina

Albanians keep thinking that Russia and China are blocking Kosovo because of Serbia. They are very wrong. Both Russia and China would change their mind tomorrow for the right price regardless of what Serbia want. If Kosovo is so important to the West they will have to pay a very high price for it. And I am not talking about money because the East already have plenty of it. Problem is there is nothing the West can offer to the East at the moment and for the foreseeable future. So Albanians have to learn to live in limbo for a very long time, several generations probably.

icj1

pre 11 godina

A "country" which cannot join the UN, is not a country at all.
(Ari Gold, 20 April 2013 14:50)

So, Serbia was not a country until 1945?! Switzerland was not a country until 2002?! Vatican is not a country?! Ukraine was a country from 1945 to 1990?!

So, you are saying that only the UN can recognize a country ?!

icj1

pre 11 godina

How can we assure that? Since the interpretation of the separatists in Pristina that it was a so called recognition of their so called independence...
(PRO-SERBIA, 21 April 2013 11:42)

Since when do you care about the interpretation of low forms of life like the separatists in Pristina :)

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

First of all why does a sovereign country sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory? WHY? I want an explanation, Ari Gold!

A sovereign country did not sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory. The Serbian Government is attempting to sign an agreement with the temporary occupiers of Kosovo i Metohija. Whatever agreement is in place is only valuable for as long as this government is in power.

There's your explanation. And no the KLA will never join the UN.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

As far as membership in the UN is concerned. Once Kosovo gains 120 recognitions, neither Russia nor China would block Kosovo's application because that would be against the will of the majority of the world's countries.

I didn't read this nonsense. The most the KLA can expect is to one day reach the level of Palestine which is not a UN seat. A "country" which cannot join the UN, is not a country at all.

And whatever you have gotten thus far, the Serbian government has allowed you to have. When those who govern are no longer in office, you wont be able to take any concession the gov't has given you for granted.

CH

pre 11 godina

First of all why does a sovereign country sign an international agreement with a part of its own territory? WHY? I want an explanation, Ari Gold!

Yesterday the EP passed a resolution calling the five non-recognizing countries to join the majority of the EU. Slovakia and Romania hinted that they would changed their stance once the two sides agree on normalization of relations. Let's wait and see. Greece recognized Kosovo de facto a long time ago. Spain has its own problems and doesn't care about this issue. These 5 countries will not block Kosovo's integration. That's what Serbia initialled.

As far as membership in the UN is concerned. Once Kosovo gains 120 recognitions, neither Russia nor China would block Kosovo's application because that would be against the will of the majority of the world's countries.
If you look at the Russian media's you can see that Russians think that Serbia recognized Kosovo. Tadic cheated Russia when it changed the UNGA Resolution that calls for the dialogue under EU auspices. They will not block Kosovo once a huge majority recognized it just for Serbia. Russia would loose her credibility and influence. And for what? for something that the serbs did on their own.

Do you really think that Kosovo would have accepted this agreement fearing that it could be blocked in the UN. NO WAY!


CH

Teslavio

pre 11 godina

Albanians keep thinking that Russia and China are blocking Kosovo because of Serbia. They are very wrong. Both Russia and China would change their mind tomorrow for the right price regardless of what Serbia want. If Kosovo is so important to the West they will have to pay a very high price for it. And I am not talking about money because the East already have plenty of it. Problem is there is nothing the West can offer to the East at the moment and for the foreseeable future. So Albanians have to learn to live in limbo for a very long time, several generations probably.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Typically srebian plan-
1. Recognise Kosova
2. Get lots of money from west
3. Put money in own pockets and sell nationaliusm to people
4. Deny recognisition of Kosova
5. Restart above procedure

icj1

pre 11 godina

A "country" which cannot join the UN, is not a country at all.
(Ari Gold, 20 April 2013 14:50)

So, Serbia was not a country until 1945?! Switzerland was not a country until 2002?! Vatican is not a country?! Ukraine was a country from 1945 to 1990?!

So, you are saying that only the UN can recognize a country ?!

PRO-SERBIA

pre 11 godina

How can we assure that? Since the interpretation of the separatists in Pristina that it was a so called recognition of their so called independence..
There is no need for EU membership and Serbia will survive without the EU..

icj1

pre 11 godina

How can we assure that? Since the interpretation of the separatists in Pristina that it was a so called recognition of their so called independence...
(PRO-SERBIA, 21 April 2013 11:42)

Since when do you care about the interpretation of low forms of life like the separatists in Pristina :)