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Friday, 19.04.2013.

20:04

"Agreement initialed, Serbia's demands accepted"

Ivica Dačić has initialed a proposed agreement with Priština, and "and Brussels will be informed of Belgrade's response on Monday," Tanjug has reported.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

This is a major victory for Serbia
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 April 2013 06:39)

I agree and I'm sure that Serbs in North Kosovo http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=19&nav_id=85800 will come to that realization soon.

icj1

pre 11 godina

NO kosovo troops are allowed unless NATO says so, read the interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen and you will see by yourself.
(Daniel, 20 April 2013 14:43)

But according to the true Serb patriots in these forums, that was already the case since we've been told for years that Kosovo is a NATO state.
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In no way has Serbia recognized Kosovo and never ever will and keep dreaming about the UN seat :)
(Daniel, 20 April 2013 14:43)

Really?! Didn't know that. So, I guess Kosovo should rather accept Serbia's offer of more-than-autonomy-but-less-than-independence in order to get the UN seat :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

if the Kosovo situation is final and the Albanians are triumphant as they claim, why then do you attend pointless negotiations with the former owners
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

Interesting point…. Hadn’t thought about it. All countries in the world which situation is final should stop negotiating or speak with each other :)
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why can you not become members of international (not just EU) organisations
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

Not sure what “international organizations” means in Serbia, but Kosovo is already a member of international organizations, as defined in English.
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and above all why are all of you Albanians constantly arguing and debating and trying to convince everyone here on a Serbian news website, that you are a free and independent sovereign nation, when you would be celebrating and having nothing to do with anything Serbian if you truly and totally believed everything you all post.
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

I don’t see why people of different countries should not speak with each other, but, hey, if you don’t wish to discuss with anybody who is not a Serb, you are free to.
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fact is you will all be posting here for ever, because as long as Serbs live in Kosovo you will never be free
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

I guess you proved Kosovo’s point why it needed to be independent :)

Brian

pre 11 godina

Daniel you need to read the agreement again. If Pristina says there is an emergency in Kosova they have the right to go into the north. NATO just follows what Kosova says. NATO is pro kosova independence. Pristina will declare an emergency immediately and then send troops into the north. If there is a fire in the north, if a serbs shoots a gun, if a bomb goes off that is an emergency and Albanians troops go in. The level of total Albanian victory in this deal is just astonishing in its scope. They got everything!

marKo

pre 11 godina

If the seperatists feel this is the last victory they needed, then I encourage them to do something. Start a business, Start a school, make something, anything legal, and sell it. There is no more excuses for you, no one left to blame. A UN Seat won't help you any more than it helped Serbia, you claim to have powerful friends, I think they are your bosses but if you are optimistic than get them to invest. No more crying, no more making wars, just hard work ahead. Do it, combat corruption, establish order you said you would after all. Now is the time to prove it. there is no one left for you to blame and kill

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Just total Albanian victory in every way. Serbs made a big deal about troops but troops are allowed whence prstina says so!!! An astonishing total vi toy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!
(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)

NO kosovo troops are allowed unless NATO says so, read the interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen and you will see by yourself. In no way has Serbia recognized Kosovo and never ever will and keep dreaming about the UN seat :)

Danilo

pre 11 godina

once the quisling cult is ousted.
(antifa, 20 April 2013 11:32)

your comments are strange. Serbia has the government it voted for.

antifa

pre 11 godina

Negotiating with the same colonialists who bombed,raped and occupied your country is impossible to spin as anything but a shameful defeat.

Worst still, is the enemy from within, the western imposed quisling cult who continues to drag Serbia to the German €USSR slaughter house. Kosovo, thanks to it´s defenders,is still Serbian and will become Serb in it´s entirety, once the quisling cult is ousted.

What difference does my name make!

pre 11 godina

,,,,,if the Kosovo situation is final and the Albanians are triumphant as they claim, why then do you attend pointless negotiations with the former owners, why can you not become members of international (not just EU) organisations, why do you not have total access to your country, why is it not recognised by half(more or less) of the international community,,,,
and above all why are all of you Albanians constantly arguing and debating and trying to convince everyone here on a Serbian news website, that you are a free and independent sovereign nation, when you would be celebrating and having nothing to do with anything Serbian if you truly and totally believed everything you all post.
The day when there is not a single Albanian on this site, trying to argue the fact, or educate us with your historic bulls#$t and debating about your freedom is the day we can acknowledge that you are victorious,,,,
fact is you will all be posting here for ever, because as long as Serbs live in Kosovo you will never be free ;)

Shqile

pre 11 godina

Well, i have to congratulate the serbs, they've puled it again. Now they have approximately 12 little Serbias inside Kosovo.
Some commentator said something about ablanians colonizing kosovo? I would kindly refer you to cubrilovi 's manifesto, it will clearly explain who colonized what.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

I'd really like to know what drugs the some of the Albanians are taking today to actually think Serbia lost and Kosovo won anything. Serbia gets an autonomous north in everything but name, a ban on what Kosovo calls an army north of the Ibar, an assembly of municipalities with executive and legislative competencies, and only has to promise not to obstruct Kosovo's "European integration", which itself is an amendment from joining international institutions, like Thaci wanted, and knowing Kosovo's problems and EU membership being nowhere in sight, it's little more than a symbolic pledge.

This is a major victory for Serbia, and this only deals with the north. The rest of the details surrounding the 10 municipality Assembly is still to be decided. Now let's just hope Pristina is finally pressured enough to cease any further aggressive moves and actually try to do something positive for the people that the international community HAS allowed them to govern :)

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

I didn't think it was going to be this easy!
Hopefully, both sides will no let the bygones be bygones and live in peace.

Ari, if you interpret this as a big win for Serbia then I congratulate you. I would also like to congratulate Peggy, Zoran, Dragan, and every like minded Serb on this site.

Unbeknownst to you, Serbia did win. But, not in the ways you think.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

Sorry, my Kosovo Albanian friends but I think serbia did win. From nothing they ended up with something. The North will eventually go to serbia, this deal makes it possible. On the other hand, the rest of Kosovo will go to Albania so that is a win for all Albanians too. I think the losers were the believers of Kosovo independence.

the/truth

pre 11 godina

GJ serbia, you have given up Kosovo and i would love to see what my serbian counter parts say. Also, the serbs living in southern Kosovo? How come they are never mentioned in these talks..

Anyways communist belgrade, well done. You have made the impossible, possible. Now serbs on these blog should not complain about montenegro and how "they have albanians living in the country."

The worst part of this deal is that this gives Albanians in southern Serbia a lot of power and give it 10/15 years until a similar deal is made with them.

Krenar

pre 11 godina

Its time Serbian people realise, for their own sake, they are not "special", no one owes them anything, on the contrary they should consider themselves priviliged that Brussels has even asked them to sit as equals in the negotiating table when taking into the sufferance they inflicted not long ago on other neighbouring nations. Hate, terror and masacres made Jews stronger, likewise, two Albanian states have been established and the third one is in the making. Its time you moved on, futile nationalism and superiority complex might feed one's ego but falls short in contributing to economic prosperity and to a better future for the younger generation that diserves more than just being brainwashed with legendary achievements of the Serbs during the Ottoman era.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold stated:

"Then there's the whole thing of you not being able to militarily come into the north. This means just as Serbia's army cannot come into Kosovo i Metohija, the separatist army in Pristina cannot come into Mitrovica. Seeing as the Serbs in the North will not give up even if there were
military consequences, this was a loss for you."

Ari,

Surely you see the difference. Kosova includes North Mitrovica within its borders. Kosova Security Forces can go anywhere in their territory to defend it. It is only the Albanian Kosova Police that ordinarily would not enter the North. Serbian Security forces can't set foot in Kosova if they wish not to be bombed by NATO. As for the Serb thugs in the North, they would be no match for the Kosovo Security Forces. The KS Serbs have little if any military arms and cannot be assisted by Serbia for her fear of being annihilated.

Darma

pre 11 godina

I'm surprised the Serbs rolled over so easily. They must have run out of vasoline. The nice thing about capitulation is that you only have to do it once. Welcome to Kosova.
(The Count of Kosova, 19 April 2013 23:34)

Don’t fly so high. The fall will be painful.

Gjon Shpataj

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 19 April 2013 21:52)
- Dude, what are you smoking? No matter what happens, you're always in denial :)

An astonishing total victoy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!
(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)
- Thaci wasn't the only one who won Brian, the whole population of Kosovo and Serbia won. Now, reality has been acknowledged and people can move on to more important things!

“Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process”, but I hope other countries will. Who needs another “banana state?”.
(Victor, 19 April 2013 22:31)
- Haha, exactly Victor, who needs another Serbia?! :)

smart girl

pre 11 godina

WestSwan,you re speaking nonsense. The Albanians has never won Serbs. Whatever they tried couldn't make it without EU and USA help.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

This is what an K-Albanian wrote in the Serbian version of the site.

Place mi se od srece! (Mara, 19. april 2013 17:01)

Thats the same reaction in Pristina tonight.

Game over.

Kreza

pre 11 godina

I am not getting those comments thinking that this is bad deal for Serbs. They are now totally protected and Serbia was not forced to recognise Kosovo. I do not see what current Kosovo leadership got from this agreement? On the other hand, Serbia protected their people without declaring that will not try to take Kosovo back.

Scott

pre 11 godina

Dacic thanked Ashton and Vucic. Ridiculous! If it weren’t for Vucic, he would still be sweating in his suit not knowing what to do. It was Vucic who actually cut the Gordis knot by saying “no” to the previous proposal. And in my opinion all credit should go to him.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

Peace in our time,now where did i hear that before,i never understood what the Serbs had to talk about with those Terrorists in Pristina.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

I'm surprised the Serbs rolled over so easily. They must have run out of vasoline. The nice thing about capitulation is that you only have to do it once. Welcome to Kosova.

WestSwan

pre 11 godina

Yes...the Albanians win again. It took them almost a century to occupy the land through Serbia's invitation. Now Serbia has capitulated to Kosovo and the EU. Black clouds are rolling across the land. Oh what a shame.

Victor

pre 11 godina

“Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process”, but I hope other countries will. Who needs another “banana state?”.

Olli

pre 11 godina

Captain America says: "if you look at history....Serbia has been getting screwed left and right by the international community when it came to "agreements". What makes you think this is any different?"

That is 100% correct.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Congratulations on finally signing the Ahtisari's plan Serbia. And thanks for giving the green light to recognize Kosovo to the 5 EU members that have n't done it yet.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Article 14 is very important. It states that Serbia and Kosovo should not stay on each other path to EU. By not recognizing Kosovo,Serbia is recreating a second Cyprus situation. EU officials have made it clear that there will not be a second Cyprus in EU. So Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Amazing total recognition of Kosovo independence by Serbia in every way imaginable. Albanians got everything. There is nothing they didn't get. No power for Serbs unless pristina says so no power no influence allowed for Belgrade! Just total Albanian victory in every way. Serbs made a big deal about troops but troops are allowed whence prstina says so!!! An astonishing total vi toy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)

Even with this agreement which will not even be able to become implemented, your Albanian leadership capitulated when it comes to getting a seat in the UN. The provision Thaci got was "Serbia and Kosovo wont obstruct each others path to the EU". Which is hilarious because neither Serbia nor the KLA will ever have a seat in the EU regardless.

Then there's the whole thing of you not being able to militarily come into the north. This means just as Serbia's army cannot come into Kosovo i Metohija, the separatist army in Pristina cannot come into Mitrovica. Seeing as the Serbs in the North will not give up even if there were military consequences, this was a loss for you.

Stop trying to spin it "Brian". And stop trying to convince us this is your name. You are not Western, you are just a Hoxha educated Albanian who does not see this agreement may say "Kosovo institutions" are different from Serbian ones, but it also makes clear the entire territory of Kosovo i Metohija is decided by Serbia's consent.

Also, there is a provision in there about Serbian property in Kosovo i Metohija. Which is like.. everything.

Yea, I don't even like the agreement...but to act as if you guys didn't lose out on what you believe you deserve... well maybe in Hoxha logic.

John Peter

pre 11 godina

Serbian Prime Minister had signed only acknowledgement of the contents of the agreement. Now, it s up to Serbian Parliament to verify or reject the agreement.We ll see in the coming days how it all ends. The initialed agreement will be represented to the other political parties and public and I hope there will be united stance of all issues.

Captain America

pre 11 godina

The complete details are not known. However, if you look at history....Serbia has been getting screwed left and right by the international community when it came to "agreements". What makes you think this is any different? Do you trolls honestely believe that Serbia somehow brought the EU, USA and Kosovars to their knees and forced them to sign a deal that isn't in their favor? Think about it.

The true details will be known in the coming days. How do we know this? You will see the Serbians in Kosova causing trouble because they do not like the details. Just wait and see.

Still Unresolved

pre 11 godina

What about the Serbian municipalities in the center and in the south?
Will they also have the same rights as the Serbs in the north?

Naim

pre 11 godina

The article now "only states that Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process," he was quoted as saying by Tanjug.

That's ok. What do i need UN when you cannot obstruct the EU ?
Is just another attempt to reflect to the public.

Naim

pre 11 godina

"Our institutions will decide in the next few days whether we will accept or reject it," said Dačić, specifying that Belgrade will deliver a written response to EU High Representative Catherine Ashton on Monday.

This is little Slobas plan if he could.. Just imagine the consequences if you say yes I agree and later no I don't agree.
Just another disaster for Serbia. I really wish this guy does just that then we take it from there.

You signed mate now you can't run away- unfourtunetaly.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Amazing total recognition of Kosovo independence by Serbia in every way imaginable. Albanians got everything. There is nothing they didn't get. No power for Serbs unless pristina says so no power no influence allowed for Belgrade! Just total Albanian victory in every way. Serbs made a big deal about troops but troops are allowed whence prstina says so!!! An astonishing total vi toy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!

Still Unresolved

pre 11 godina

What about the Serbian municipalities in the center and in the south?
Will they also have the same rights as the Serbs in the north?

WestSwan

pre 11 godina

Yes...the Albanians win again. It took them almost a century to occupy the land through Serbia's invitation. Now Serbia has capitulated to Kosovo and the EU. Black clouds are rolling across the land. Oh what a shame.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

I'm surprised the Serbs rolled over so easily. They must have run out of vasoline. The nice thing about capitulation is that you only have to do it once. Welcome to Kosova.

Olli

pre 11 godina

Captain America says: "if you look at history....Serbia has been getting screwed left and right by the international community when it came to "agreements". What makes you think this is any different?"

That is 100% correct.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Congratulations on finally signing the Ahtisari's plan Serbia. And thanks for giving the green light to recognize Kosovo to the 5 EU members that have n't done it yet.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)

Even with this agreement which will not even be able to become implemented, your Albanian leadership capitulated when it comes to getting a seat in the UN. The provision Thaci got was "Serbia and Kosovo wont obstruct each others path to the EU". Which is hilarious because neither Serbia nor the KLA will ever have a seat in the EU regardless.

Then there's the whole thing of you not being able to militarily come into the north. This means just as Serbia's army cannot come into Kosovo i Metohija, the separatist army in Pristina cannot come into Mitrovica. Seeing as the Serbs in the North will not give up even if there were military consequences, this was a loss for you.

Stop trying to spin it "Brian". And stop trying to convince us this is your name. You are not Western, you are just a Hoxha educated Albanian who does not see this agreement may say "Kosovo institutions" are different from Serbian ones, but it also makes clear the entire territory of Kosovo i Metohija is decided by Serbia's consent.

Also, there is a provision in there about Serbian property in Kosovo i Metohija. Which is like.. everything.

Yea, I don't even like the agreement...but to act as if you guys didn't lose out on what you believe you deserve... well maybe in Hoxha logic.

Victor

pre 11 godina

“Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process”, but I hope other countries will. Who needs another “banana state?”.

Naim

pre 11 godina

"Our institutions will decide in the next few days whether we will accept or reject it," said Dačić, specifying that Belgrade will deliver a written response to EU High Representative Catherine Ashton on Monday.

This is little Slobas plan if he could.. Just imagine the consequences if you say yes I agree and later no I don't agree.
Just another disaster for Serbia. I really wish this guy does just that then we take it from there.

You signed mate now you can't run away- unfourtunetaly.

Captain America

pre 11 godina

The complete details are not known. However, if you look at history....Serbia has been getting screwed left and right by the international community when it came to "agreements". What makes you think this is any different? Do you trolls honestely believe that Serbia somehow brought the EU, USA and Kosovars to their knees and forced them to sign a deal that isn't in their favor? Think about it.

The true details will be known in the coming days. How do we know this? You will see the Serbians in Kosova causing trouble because they do not like the details. Just wait and see.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Article 14 is very important. It states that Serbia and Kosovo should not stay on each other path to EU. By not recognizing Kosovo,Serbia is recreating a second Cyprus situation. EU officials have made it clear that there will not be a second Cyprus in EU. So Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.

Naim

pre 11 godina

The article now "only states that Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process," he was quoted as saying by Tanjug.

That's ok. What do i need UN when you cannot obstruct the EU ?
Is just another attempt to reflect to the public.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

Peace in our time,now where did i hear that before,i never understood what the Serbs had to talk about with those Terrorists in Pristina.

Scott

pre 11 godina

Dacic thanked Ashton and Vucic. Ridiculous! If it weren’t for Vucic, he would still be sweating in his suit not knowing what to do. It was Vucic who actually cut the Gordis knot by saying “no” to the previous proposal. And in my opinion all credit should go to him.

John Peter

pre 11 godina

Serbian Prime Minister had signed only acknowledgement of the contents of the agreement. Now, it s up to Serbian Parliament to verify or reject the agreement.We ll see in the coming days how it all ends. The initialed agreement will be represented to the other political parties and public and I hope there will be united stance of all issues.

Shqile

pre 11 godina

Well, i have to congratulate the serbs, they've puled it again. Now they have approximately 12 little Serbias inside Kosovo.
Some commentator said something about ablanians colonizing kosovo? I would kindly refer you to cubrilovi 's manifesto, it will clearly explain who colonized what.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

I didn't think it was going to be this easy!
Hopefully, both sides will no let the bygones be bygones and live in peace.

Ari, if you interpret this as a big win for Serbia then I congratulate you. I would also like to congratulate Peggy, Zoran, Dragan, and every like minded Serb on this site.

Unbeknownst to you, Serbia did win. But, not in the ways you think.

antifa

pre 11 godina

Negotiating with the same colonialists who bombed,raped and occupied your country is impossible to spin as anything but a shameful defeat.

Worst still, is the enemy from within, the western imposed quisling cult who continues to drag Serbia to the German €USSR slaughter house. Kosovo, thanks to it´s defenders,is still Serbian and will become Serb in it´s entirety, once the quisling cult is ousted.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

once the quisling cult is ousted.
(antifa, 20 April 2013 11:32)

your comments are strange. Serbia has the government it voted for.

Gjon Shpataj

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 19 April 2013 21:52)
- Dude, what are you smoking? No matter what happens, you're always in denial :)

An astonishing total victoy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!
(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)
- Thaci wasn't the only one who won Brian, the whole population of Kosovo and Serbia won. Now, reality has been acknowledged and people can move on to more important things!

“Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process”, but I hope other countries will. Who needs another “banana state?”.
(Victor, 19 April 2013 22:31)
- Haha, exactly Victor, who needs another Serbia?! :)

Krenar

pre 11 godina

Its time Serbian people realise, for their own sake, they are not "special", no one owes them anything, on the contrary they should consider themselves priviliged that Brussels has even asked them to sit as equals in the negotiating table when taking into the sufferance they inflicted not long ago on other neighbouring nations. Hate, terror and masacres made Jews stronger, likewise, two Albanian states have been established and the third one is in the making. Its time you moved on, futile nationalism and superiority complex might feed one's ego but falls short in contributing to economic prosperity and to a better future for the younger generation that diserves more than just being brainwashed with legendary achievements of the Serbs during the Ottoman era.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold stated:

"Then there's the whole thing of you not being able to militarily come into the north. This means just as Serbia's army cannot come into Kosovo i Metohija, the separatist army in Pristina cannot come into Mitrovica. Seeing as the Serbs in the North will not give up even if there were
military consequences, this was a loss for you."

Ari,

Surely you see the difference. Kosova includes North Mitrovica within its borders. Kosova Security Forces can go anywhere in their territory to defend it. It is only the Albanian Kosova Police that ordinarily would not enter the North. Serbian Security forces can't set foot in Kosova if they wish not to be bombed by NATO. As for the Serb thugs in the North, they would be no match for the Kosovo Security Forces. The KS Serbs have little if any military arms and cannot be assisted by Serbia for her fear of being annihilated.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

Sorry, my Kosovo Albanian friends but I think serbia did win. From nothing they ended up with something. The North will eventually go to serbia, this deal makes it possible. On the other hand, the rest of Kosovo will go to Albania so that is a win for all Albanians too. I think the losers were the believers of Kosovo independence.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

I'd really like to know what drugs the some of the Albanians are taking today to actually think Serbia lost and Kosovo won anything. Serbia gets an autonomous north in everything but name, a ban on what Kosovo calls an army north of the Ibar, an assembly of municipalities with executive and legislative competencies, and only has to promise not to obstruct Kosovo's "European integration", which itself is an amendment from joining international institutions, like Thaci wanted, and knowing Kosovo's problems and EU membership being nowhere in sight, it's little more than a symbolic pledge.

This is a major victory for Serbia, and this only deals with the north. The rest of the details surrounding the 10 municipality Assembly is still to be decided. Now let's just hope Pristina is finally pressured enough to cease any further aggressive moves and actually try to do something positive for the people that the international community HAS allowed them to govern :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

if the Kosovo situation is final and the Albanians are triumphant as they claim, why then do you attend pointless negotiations with the former owners
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

Interesting point…. Hadn’t thought about it. All countries in the world which situation is final should stop negotiating or speak with each other :)
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why can you not become members of international (not just EU) organisations
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

Not sure what “international organizations” means in Serbia, but Kosovo is already a member of international organizations, as defined in English.
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and above all why are all of you Albanians constantly arguing and debating and trying to convince everyone here on a Serbian news website, that you are a free and independent sovereign nation, when you would be celebrating and having nothing to do with anything Serbian if you truly and totally believed everything you all post.
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

I don’t see why people of different countries should not speak with each other, but, hey, if you don’t wish to discuss with anybody who is not a Serb, you are free to.
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fact is you will all be posting here for ever, because as long as Serbs live in Kosovo you will never be free
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

I guess you proved Kosovo’s point why it needed to be independent :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

NO kosovo troops are allowed unless NATO says so, read the interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen and you will see by yourself.
(Daniel, 20 April 2013 14:43)

But according to the true Serb patriots in these forums, that was already the case since we've been told for years that Kosovo is a NATO state.
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In no way has Serbia recognized Kosovo and never ever will and keep dreaming about the UN seat :)
(Daniel, 20 April 2013 14:43)

Really?! Didn't know that. So, I guess Kosovo should rather accept Serbia's offer of more-than-autonomy-but-less-than-independence in order to get the UN seat :)

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

This is what an K-Albanian wrote in the Serbian version of the site.

Place mi se od srece! (Mara, 19. april 2013 17:01)

Thats the same reaction in Pristina tonight.

Game over.

smart girl

pre 11 godina

WestSwan,you re speaking nonsense. The Albanians has never won Serbs. Whatever they tried couldn't make it without EU and USA help.

the/truth

pre 11 godina

GJ serbia, you have given up Kosovo and i would love to see what my serbian counter parts say. Also, the serbs living in southern Kosovo? How come they are never mentioned in these talks..

Anyways communist belgrade, well done. You have made the impossible, possible. Now serbs on these blog should not complain about montenegro and how "they have albanians living in the country."

The worst part of this deal is that this gives Albanians in southern Serbia a lot of power and give it 10/15 years until a similar deal is made with them.

What difference does my name make!

pre 11 godina

,,,,,if the Kosovo situation is final and the Albanians are triumphant as they claim, why then do you attend pointless negotiations with the former owners, why can you not become members of international (not just EU) organisations, why do you not have total access to your country, why is it not recognised by half(more or less) of the international community,,,,
and above all why are all of you Albanians constantly arguing and debating and trying to convince everyone here on a Serbian news website, that you are a free and independent sovereign nation, when you would be celebrating and having nothing to do with anything Serbian if you truly and totally believed everything you all post.
The day when there is not a single Albanian on this site, trying to argue the fact, or educate us with your historic bulls#$t and debating about your freedom is the day we can acknowledge that you are victorious,,,,
fact is you will all be posting here for ever, because as long as Serbs live in Kosovo you will never be free ;)

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Just total Albanian victory in every way. Serbs made a big deal about troops but troops are allowed whence prstina says so!!! An astonishing total vi toy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!
(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)

NO kosovo troops are allowed unless NATO says so, read the interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen and you will see by yourself. In no way has Serbia recognized Kosovo and never ever will and keep dreaming about the UN seat :)

Kreza

pre 11 godina

I am not getting those comments thinking that this is bad deal for Serbs. They are now totally protected and Serbia was not forced to recognise Kosovo. I do not see what current Kosovo leadership got from this agreement? On the other hand, Serbia protected their people without declaring that will not try to take Kosovo back.

Darma

pre 11 godina

I'm surprised the Serbs rolled over so easily. They must have run out of vasoline. The nice thing about capitulation is that you only have to do it once. Welcome to Kosova.
(The Count of Kosova, 19 April 2013 23:34)

Don’t fly so high. The fall will be painful.

marKo

pre 11 godina

If the seperatists feel this is the last victory they needed, then I encourage them to do something. Start a business, Start a school, make something, anything legal, and sell it. There is no more excuses for you, no one left to blame. A UN Seat won't help you any more than it helped Serbia, you claim to have powerful friends, I think they are your bosses but if you are optimistic than get them to invest. No more crying, no more making wars, just hard work ahead. Do it, combat corruption, establish order you said you would after all. Now is the time to prove it. there is no one left for you to blame and kill

Brian

pre 11 godina

Daniel you need to read the agreement again. If Pristina says there is an emergency in Kosova they have the right to go into the north. NATO just follows what Kosova says. NATO is pro kosova independence. Pristina will declare an emergency immediately and then send troops into the north. If there is a fire in the north, if a serbs shoots a gun, if a bomb goes off that is an emergency and Albanians troops go in. The level of total Albanian victory in this deal is just astonishing in its scope. They got everything!

icj1

pre 11 godina

This is a major victory for Serbia
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 April 2013 06:39)

I agree and I'm sure that Serbs in North Kosovo http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=19&nav_id=85800 will come to that realization soon.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

Peace in our time,now where did i hear that before,i never understood what the Serbs had to talk about with those Terrorists in Pristina.

Victor

pre 11 godina

“Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process”, but I hope other countries will. Who needs another “banana state?”.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

I'm surprised the Serbs rolled over so easily. They must have run out of vasoline. The nice thing about capitulation is that you only have to do it once. Welcome to Kosova.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Amazing total recognition of Kosovo independence by Serbia in every way imaginable. Albanians got everything. There is nothing they didn't get. No power for Serbs unless pristina says so no power no influence allowed for Belgrade! Just total Albanian victory in every way. Serbs made a big deal about troops but troops are allowed whence prstina says so!!! An astonishing total vi toy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)

Even with this agreement which will not even be able to become implemented, your Albanian leadership capitulated when it comes to getting a seat in the UN. The provision Thaci got was "Serbia and Kosovo wont obstruct each others path to the EU". Which is hilarious because neither Serbia nor the KLA will ever have a seat in the EU regardless.

Then there's the whole thing of you not being able to militarily come into the north. This means just as Serbia's army cannot come into Kosovo i Metohija, the separatist army in Pristina cannot come into Mitrovica. Seeing as the Serbs in the North will not give up even if there were military consequences, this was a loss for you.

Stop trying to spin it "Brian". And stop trying to convince us this is your name. You are not Western, you are just a Hoxha educated Albanian who does not see this agreement may say "Kosovo institutions" are different from Serbian ones, but it also makes clear the entire territory of Kosovo i Metohija is decided by Serbia's consent.

Also, there is a provision in there about Serbian property in Kosovo i Metohija. Which is like.. everything.

Yea, I don't even like the agreement...but to act as if you guys didn't lose out on what you believe you deserve... well maybe in Hoxha logic.

Naim

pre 11 godina

"Our institutions will decide in the next few days whether we will accept or reject it," said Dačić, specifying that Belgrade will deliver a written response to EU High Representative Catherine Ashton on Monday.

This is little Slobas plan if he could.. Just imagine the consequences if you say yes I agree and later no I don't agree.
Just another disaster for Serbia. I really wish this guy does just that then we take it from there.

You signed mate now you can't run away- unfourtunetaly.

Scott

pre 11 godina

Dacic thanked Ashton and Vucic. Ridiculous! If it weren’t for Vucic, he would still be sweating in his suit not knowing what to do. It was Vucic who actually cut the Gordis knot by saying “no” to the previous proposal. And in my opinion all credit should go to him.

WestSwan

pre 11 godina

Yes...the Albanians win again. It took them almost a century to occupy the land through Serbia's invitation. Now Serbia has capitulated to Kosovo and the EU. Black clouds are rolling across the land. Oh what a shame.

Naim

pre 11 godina

The article now "only states that Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process," he was quoted as saying by Tanjug.

That's ok. What do i need UN when you cannot obstruct the EU ?
Is just another attempt to reflect to the public.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Congratulations on finally signing the Ahtisari's plan Serbia. And thanks for giving the green light to recognize Kosovo to the 5 EU members that have n't done it yet.

Captain America

pre 11 godina

The complete details are not known. However, if you look at history....Serbia has been getting screwed left and right by the international community when it came to "agreements". What makes you think this is any different? Do you trolls honestely believe that Serbia somehow brought the EU, USA and Kosovars to their knees and forced them to sign a deal that isn't in their favor? Think about it.

The true details will be known in the coming days. How do we know this? You will see the Serbians in Kosova causing trouble because they do not like the details. Just wait and see.

Still Unresolved

pre 11 godina

What about the Serbian municipalities in the center and in the south?
Will they also have the same rights as the Serbs in the north?

John Peter

pre 11 godina

Serbian Prime Minister had signed only acknowledgement of the contents of the agreement. Now, it s up to Serbian Parliament to verify or reject the agreement.We ll see in the coming days how it all ends. The initialed agreement will be represented to the other political parties and public and I hope there will be united stance of all issues.

What difference does my name make!

pre 11 godina

,,,,,if the Kosovo situation is final and the Albanians are triumphant as they claim, why then do you attend pointless negotiations with the former owners, why can you not become members of international (not just EU) organisations, why do you not have total access to your country, why is it not recognised by half(more or less) of the international community,,,,
and above all why are all of you Albanians constantly arguing and debating and trying to convince everyone here on a Serbian news website, that you are a free and independent sovereign nation, when you would be celebrating and having nothing to do with anything Serbian if you truly and totally believed everything you all post.
The day when there is not a single Albanian on this site, trying to argue the fact, or educate us with your historic bulls#$t and debating about your freedom is the day we can acknowledge that you are victorious,,,,
fact is you will all be posting here for ever, because as long as Serbs live in Kosovo you will never be free ;)

antifa

pre 11 godina

Negotiating with the same colonialists who bombed,raped and occupied your country is impossible to spin as anything but a shameful defeat.

Worst still, is the enemy from within, the western imposed quisling cult who continues to drag Serbia to the German €USSR slaughter house. Kosovo, thanks to it´s defenders,is still Serbian and will become Serb in it´s entirety, once the quisling cult is ousted.

Olli

pre 11 godina

Captain America says: "if you look at history....Serbia has been getting screwed left and right by the international community when it came to "agreements". What makes you think this is any different?"

That is 100% correct.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Just total Albanian victory in every way. Serbs made a big deal about troops but troops are allowed whence prstina says so!!! An astonishing total vi toy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!
(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)

NO kosovo troops are allowed unless NATO says so, read the interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen and you will see by yourself. In no way has Serbia recognized Kosovo and never ever will and keep dreaming about the UN seat :)

Mark

pre 11 godina

Article 14 is very important. It states that Serbia and Kosovo should not stay on each other path to EU. By not recognizing Kosovo,Serbia is recreating a second Cyprus situation. EU officials have made it clear that there will not be a second Cyprus in EU. So Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.

smart girl

pre 11 godina

WestSwan,you re speaking nonsense. The Albanians has never won Serbs. Whatever they tried couldn't make it without EU and USA help.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

Sorry, my Kosovo Albanian friends but I think serbia did win. From nothing they ended up with something. The North will eventually go to serbia, this deal makes it possible. On the other hand, the rest of Kosovo will go to Albania so that is a win for all Albanians too. I think the losers were the believers of Kosovo independence.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

I'd really like to know what drugs the some of the Albanians are taking today to actually think Serbia lost and Kosovo won anything. Serbia gets an autonomous north in everything but name, a ban on what Kosovo calls an army north of the Ibar, an assembly of municipalities with executive and legislative competencies, and only has to promise not to obstruct Kosovo's "European integration", which itself is an amendment from joining international institutions, like Thaci wanted, and knowing Kosovo's problems and EU membership being nowhere in sight, it's little more than a symbolic pledge.

This is a major victory for Serbia, and this only deals with the north. The rest of the details surrounding the 10 municipality Assembly is still to be decided. Now let's just hope Pristina is finally pressured enough to cease any further aggressive moves and actually try to do something positive for the people that the international community HAS allowed them to govern :)

Darma

pre 11 godina

I'm surprised the Serbs rolled over so easily. They must have run out of vasoline. The nice thing about capitulation is that you only have to do it once. Welcome to Kosova.
(The Count of Kosova, 19 April 2013 23:34)

Don’t fly so high. The fall will be painful.

icj1

pre 11 godina

This is a major victory for Serbia
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 April 2013 06:39)

I agree and I'm sure that Serbs in North Kosovo http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=19&nav_id=85800 will come to that realization soon.

Kreza

pre 11 godina

I am not getting those comments thinking that this is bad deal for Serbs. They are now totally protected and Serbia was not forced to recognise Kosovo. I do not see what current Kosovo leadership got from this agreement? On the other hand, Serbia protected their people without declaring that will not try to take Kosovo back.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

once the quisling cult is ousted.
(antifa, 20 April 2013 11:32)

your comments are strange. Serbia has the government it voted for.

icj1

pre 11 godina

if the Kosovo situation is final and the Albanians are triumphant as they claim, why then do you attend pointless negotiations with the former owners
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

Interesting point…. Hadn’t thought about it. All countries in the world which situation is final should stop negotiating or speak with each other :)
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why can you not become members of international (not just EU) organisations
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

Not sure what “international organizations” means in Serbia, but Kosovo is already a member of international organizations, as defined in English.
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and above all why are all of you Albanians constantly arguing and debating and trying to convince everyone here on a Serbian news website, that you are a free and independent sovereign nation, when you would be celebrating and having nothing to do with anything Serbian if you truly and totally believed everything you all post.
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

I don’t see why people of different countries should not speak with each other, but, hey, if you don’t wish to discuss with anybody who is not a Serb, you are free to.
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fact is you will all be posting here for ever, because as long as Serbs live in Kosovo you will never be free
(What difference does my name make!, 20 April 2013 07:50)

I guess you proved Kosovo’s point why it needed to be independent :)

Gjon Shpataj

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 19 April 2013 21:52)
- Dude, what are you smoking? No matter what happens, you're always in denial :)

An astonishing total victoy by thaci on every single issue with no compromise in anything!
(Brian, 19 April 2013 21:24)
- Thaci wasn't the only one who won Brian, the whole population of Kosovo and Serbia won. Now, reality has been acknowledged and people can move on to more important things!

“Serbia must not stand in the way of Kosovo's European integration process”, but I hope other countries will. Who needs another “banana state?”.
(Victor, 19 April 2013 22:31)
- Haha, exactly Victor, who needs another Serbia?! :)

the/truth

pre 11 godina

GJ serbia, you have given up Kosovo and i would love to see what my serbian counter parts say. Also, the serbs living in southern Kosovo? How come they are never mentioned in these talks..

Anyways communist belgrade, well done. You have made the impossible, possible. Now serbs on these blog should not complain about montenegro and how "they have albanians living in the country."

The worst part of this deal is that this gives Albanians in southern Serbia a lot of power and give it 10/15 years until a similar deal is made with them.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

I didn't think it was going to be this easy!
Hopefully, both sides will no let the bygones be bygones and live in peace.

Ari, if you interpret this as a big win for Serbia then I congratulate you. I would also like to congratulate Peggy, Zoran, Dragan, and every like minded Serb on this site.

Unbeknownst to you, Serbia did win. But, not in the ways you think.

Shqile

pre 11 godina

Well, i have to congratulate the serbs, they've puled it again. Now they have approximately 12 little Serbias inside Kosovo.
Some commentator said something about ablanians colonizing kosovo? I would kindly refer you to cubrilovi 's manifesto, it will clearly explain who colonized what.

marKo

pre 11 godina

If the seperatists feel this is the last victory they needed, then I encourage them to do something. Start a business, Start a school, make something, anything legal, and sell it. There is no more excuses for you, no one left to blame. A UN Seat won't help you any more than it helped Serbia, you claim to have powerful friends, I think they are your bosses but if you are optimistic than get them to invest. No more crying, no more making wars, just hard work ahead. Do it, combat corruption, establish order you said you would after all. Now is the time to prove it. there is no one left for you to blame and kill

icj1

pre 11 godina

NO kosovo troops are allowed unless NATO says so, read the interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen and you will see by yourself.
(Daniel, 20 April 2013 14:43)

But according to the true Serb patriots in these forums, that was already the case since we've been told for years that Kosovo is a NATO state.
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In no way has Serbia recognized Kosovo and never ever will and keep dreaming about the UN seat :)
(Daniel, 20 April 2013 14:43)

Really?! Didn't know that. So, I guess Kosovo should rather accept Serbia's offer of more-than-autonomy-but-less-than-independence in order to get the UN seat :)

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

This is what an K-Albanian wrote in the Serbian version of the site.

Place mi se od srece! (Mara, 19. april 2013 17:01)

Thats the same reaction in Pristina tonight.

Game over.

Krenar

pre 11 godina

Its time Serbian people realise, for their own sake, they are not "special", no one owes them anything, on the contrary they should consider themselves priviliged that Brussels has even asked them to sit as equals in the negotiating table when taking into the sufferance they inflicted not long ago on other neighbouring nations. Hate, terror and masacres made Jews stronger, likewise, two Albanian states have been established and the third one is in the making. Its time you moved on, futile nationalism and superiority complex might feed one's ego but falls short in contributing to economic prosperity and to a better future for the younger generation that diserves more than just being brainwashed with legendary achievements of the Serbs during the Ottoman era.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold stated:

"Then there's the whole thing of you not being able to militarily come into the north. This means just as Serbia's army cannot come into Kosovo i Metohija, the separatist army in Pristina cannot come into Mitrovica. Seeing as the Serbs in the North will not give up even if there were
military consequences, this was a loss for you."

Ari,

Surely you see the difference. Kosova includes North Mitrovica within its borders. Kosova Security Forces can go anywhere in their territory to defend it. It is only the Albanian Kosova Police that ordinarily would not enter the North. Serbian Security forces can't set foot in Kosova if they wish not to be bombed by NATO. As for the Serb thugs in the North, they would be no match for the Kosovo Security Forces. The KS Serbs have little if any military arms and cannot be assisted by Serbia for her fear of being annihilated.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Daniel you need to read the agreement again. If Pristina says there is an emergency in Kosova they have the right to go into the north. NATO just follows what Kosova says. NATO is pro kosova independence. Pristina will declare an emergency immediately and then send troops into the north. If there is a fire in the north, if a serbs shoots a gun, if a bomb goes off that is an emergency and Albanians troops go in. The level of total Albanian victory in this deal is just astonishing in its scope. They got everything!