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Germany insists Serbia must fulfill its demands

The faction of Germany's ruling CDU/CSU says it was standing by its position that Serbia must fulfill all seven demands as the condition for starting EU talks.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 14:35)

Yeah of course it was set up by UN. I guess George Soros is a huge sponsor of the UN and for your knowledge neither Russia or China were even asked before the "court"was already established. You are so unintelligent and uninformed that Im ashamed how easy it is to make you look like a fool.
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 19:30)

If you consult Vuk's UN documents (S/PV.3217), you will notice that Russia not only was aware about the Court, not only approved it (as Nikolle said), but, hear this, Russia actually was a sponsor of the resolution introduced in the UNSC to create the court.

This is what Mr. Vorontsov, President of the UNSC, had to say on 25 May 1993 during the vote:

"The Russian Federation not only supported but, in fact, co-sponsored the draft resolution that establishes the International Tribunal"

Unintelligence and uninformation can be understood for some people in Serbia being fed with propaganda only. It is like the dark ages when people were told by the church what the truth was and nobody questioned that :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

its sweet that you think you're making me look stupid. its called The UN Hague Tribunal for a reason. It was agreed by all Security Council members, Russia & China too :-)

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Nonsense, Daniel.

every EU candidate had to be at a certain level and resolve certain issues before they could become a candidate. For example, Slovenia blocked Croatia due to their border dispute.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

And Danilo by the way the difference between Serbia and earlier eu candidates is that the pressure that EU has put on Serbia to fulfill demands even BEFORE GETTING A DATE TO NEGOTIATE about EU membership and that has never ever happened to another country. All the other countries that entered EU first got a date to negotiate and THEN EU put the pressure on. Not the other way around.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I know ur a westerner with Serbian roots that probably gets most of his info from gossip during lunch in a church basement, but at least try to be objective
(Danilo, 19 April 2013 14:42)

I was born and raised in Serbia and have lived here all my life, what more do I need to proove for you?Keep ur mouth shut kalb-lover.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

I was born and raised in Serbia and have lived here all my life
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 19:24)


In that case, your extreme confusion on some matters can be forgiven

Daniel

pre 11 godina

ha! classic tactic. what makes you so sure that the Nuremburg Trials weren't biased? yeah yeah its always the evil west that has agenda. the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 14:35)
'
Easy answer to that one, compare the verdicts against the german nazis that killed millions of people with the verdicts against serb generals and you will see that the sentences the germans got were more than 10 times shorter.

Yeah of course it was set up by UN. I guess George Soros is a huge sponsor of the UN and for your knowledge neither Russia or China were even asked before the "court"was already established. You are so unintelligent and uninformed that Im ashamed how easy it is to make you look like a fool. Btw your very good at doing that yourself without my assistance. You are so confident in your lies that you have begun to believe they are actually true.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Tell me in what other way have Germany "contributed" to Europe and the world except for murdering millions of people?
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 13:38)

you know.... the world didn't stop in 1945

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...biased Hague circus..."

ha! classic tactic. what makes you so sure that the Nuremburg Trials weren't biased? yeah yeah its always the evil west that has agenda. the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Daniel

we're talking about the EU here, and Germany contributes a lot more to it than any other member state. but really, it was Serbia that applied to join. you don't have to seek accession. vote for parties who don't want it, but Serbs keep rejecting them. funny, you all say we don't want the EU and elect those who want it.
p.s. in the last 20 years, Serbia has contributed a lot of war criminals to the EU....2nd behind Germany in numbers. fact

R2D2

pre 11 godina

Hey Germans you are playing with fire...are you aware of amounth of muslims that are growing in your country, that are flooding Europe every day, and they dont stop...they will never stop...green transversal is keep growing...with your help they will cross Serbia easily and you know that Serbia is last stance from East and South...Insted of helping this last frontier you are playing aginst it...I cant see the reason why, ok you dont like us, and you will never forgive a Ferdinands death, but with the behavior like this you are just building a bridge...is that on purpose, what side are you on?

Lots of Love

pre 11 godina

Ok, we used to moves of Germany since the WW I an II, nothing has been changed, same rules diferent methods. You got a state of your own and that is Croatia, they keep plying fascist games with no punishment...But as I already said we are used to..Now it is simple Germans, just pick a number, say out loud amount of money that will make you stop harassing this poor but righteous and brave country. Say what do you need, what do you want and and maybe we will make something good for all. As arnauts have all ready done they gave money to the west to fight for their cause. Now its our turn.

j

pre 11 godina

Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Josef Mengele
Rudolf Hess

- Daniel you forgot Milosevic, Karadjic, Sesejl. Some of these people have the added similarity that were captured after the war and or defended from ultraextremists while hiding from international law. See how is it is? Quite simple. Also try to get out more often, you have become chemical Ali lately. Self appointed defender of Serbdom and Serbian honor. I will give you a medal for your fierce typing capabilities and and for heroically withstanding carpal tunnel syndrome.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

- Daniel you forgot Milosevic, Karadjic, Sesejl. Some of these people have the added similarity that were captured after the war and or defended from ultraextremists while hiding from international law. See how is it is? Quite simple. Also try to get out more often, you have become chemical Ali lately. Self appointed defender of Serbdom and Serbian honor. I will give you a medal for your fierce typing capabilities and and for heroically withstanding carpal tunnel syndrome.
(j, 19 April 2013 14:19)

What has Milosevic and Seselj been convicted for?How many did they kill?Millions like the germans right?And Nikolle you albanians have as many or even more war criminals only difference is that you suckup to the germans and the us and thats why the biased Hague circus aquitted your murderers such as Mrs. Snake and Haradinaj.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Hi Daniel,

I know you're not in Serbia, so it can be a bit confusing looking in from the outside.

What has Serbia done to deserve EU talks? It's no where near square 1 even.

All this stuff about stopping harbouring ITCY indictees? pre square 1

solving open problems with it's neighbours? pre square 1

Serbia has not even begun what it needs to do (massive reforms of its everything) compared to Romania, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc.

"Just take a look at Croatia they did absolutely nothing to solve the problems with serb returnees "

Not true. I know several Serbian refugees that has their houses rebuilt. I don't think they've done enough, but it's not true that they've "done nothing"

Whatever the case EU is an economic and political zone with rules to join it, not some sort of "reward" or something that's deserved just because you think so.

I know ur a westerner with Serbian roots that probably gets most of his info from gossip during lunch in a church basement, but at least try to be objective

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I love how people throw around "ultimatum", forgetting that it's Serbia applying to join the EU, not the other way around.
(Danilo, 19 April 2013 12:14)

So what?No other country that has applied for membership has done as much as serbia has to deserve it. Just take a look at Croatia they did absolutely nothing to solve the problems with serb returnees or punish those who committed crimes upon serbs absolutely nothing, zero. I know ur a serb hater but at least try to be objective.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

You forgot to mention a very important comment Schockenhoff also made concerning Serbia’s political elite and their trustworthiness.

Maybe they should mention Kosovos political "elite" the terrorists and murderers mr Snake and Haradinaj. Last but not least a GERMAN should be the last one to talk about trustworthiness. I will only mention a few names to show how trustworthy germans are.

Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Josef Mengele
Rudolf Hess

And there are a thousands of more "prominent"germans. I hope you are proud of ur history and the fact that you and your people are considered the most bloodthirsty barbarians in the history of mankind willi. That is trly something to be proud of. And dont give me that crap that you have "changed". You were nevere punished for what you did, you didnt get any punishment whatsoever so just shut up. You are the same as you were 70 yrs ago you just use different tactics. You are a devil in disguise.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

yeah...bad germans. p.s. its Serbia that is trying to join the EU, a club that Germany contributes an awful lot to. you don't have to join. you can always look to Russia, but you keep voting people in who want the EU. their club, their rules. you don't have to play along
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 12:39)

Tell me in what other way have Germany "contributed" to Europe and the world except for murdering millions of people?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

yeah...bad germans. p.s. its Serbia that is trying to join the EU, a club that Germany contributes an awful lot to. you don't have to join. you can always look to Russia, but you keep voting people in who want the EU. their club, their rules. you don't have to play along

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Humiliation is something Serbs are used to. One more slap in the face will make no difference. Won't it be worth it to become eligible for EU membership.
(Hilarious, 18 April 2013 21:00)

Never, the germans can say whatever they want we will not sign anything that doesn´t fulfill OUR wishes and demands. EU and especially the 4th reich can go to hell. EU is not only Germany and thankfully the other countries are realizing that Germany once again is trying to dominate Europe. They won´t succeed this time either.

Пифф - пафф - пуфф - ой-ой-ой, умирает зайчик мой

pre 11 godina

Another thing which was not mentioned in your article is that this is not only the view of the ruling CDU/CSU party, but is also supported by all other parties in the German Bundestag, except for the former Communists, die Linke.
(Willi Pfaff, 19 April 2013 08:48)

B92 forgot to mention even more important fact: it is also supported by Beghjet "Bill" Pfaffisha

zz

pre 11 godina

History lesson to those who don't pay attention:
1. Germans gives ultimatums 2. Serbs refuse to be humiliated 3. Germans attempt to destroy Serbia 4. Germany is destroyed for its wickedness. 5. Let history repeat itself!

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

You forgot to mention a very important comment Schockenhoff also made concerning Serbia’s political elite and their trustworthiness.

He said that one of the criteria the CDU/CSU will look at is how Serbia is conducting itself when it comes to the cooperation with the Hague tribunal because this is seen as a very important signal on how Serbia will be conducting the regional reconciliation process. He went on saying, that Nikolic’s statements at the UN conference last week pose a serious setback. If a President of a country puts the Hague Tribunal in line with the Inquisition or the Stalinist Courts in Russia, and if he sees the Brussels dialogue Catharine Ashton is conducting as an attempt to steal Kosovo from Serbia, one has to ask the question, if any solution found in Brussels will be seriously supported by the Serbian side.

Another thing which was not mentioned in your article is that this is not only the view of the ruling CDU/CSU party, but is also supported by all other parties in the German Bundestag, except for the former Communists, die Linke.

Michael

pre 11 godina

Serbia must remember that all Germany is offering is the possible opportunity to maybe set a date in the future sometime when the possibility of eventual EU membership in the future will be discussed and, if all EU nations agree, the chance to maybe become a part of the EU someday when the EU feels like accepting it. In the meantime, Serbia must absolutely do whatever Germany says it must do on any given day, including anything it says, and do it however Germany says it must, or Serbia can't be in the EU. Nobody rational would ever accept this situation. Serbia needs to get smart. New German demands will just keep coming.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Fortunately this is not up to CDU/CSU. Or to Germany. Nope.
It is up to EU as a whole. And as five countries do not recognize Kosovo... We all know what that means: Kosovo cannot join EU. Same for UN.
What a waste of time and resources! Learn to live together in one state!

Bata

pre 11 godina

@Doing What They Do Best: Thinking along these lines, they can just re-introduce 1:100 rule, i.e. for each killed German, 100 Serbs have to be killed. However, the problem is that Serbs do not kill Germans, so the rule can be modified into something like "For each refused demand, 100 Serbs is to be killed".

Retardirani Binsr

pre 11 godina

@John: Well spoken my friend. Germany cornered us by requesting that only German Porn is to be watched in Serbia (no Swedish). This is killing me.

Doing What They Do Best

pre 11 godina

Maybe the German government can construct some special camps for Serbs who refuse to accept their dictats. They've done it before.

Hilarious

pre 11 godina

Humiliation is something Serbs are used to. One more slap in the face will make no difference. Won't it be worth it to become eligible for EU membership.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

Germany is telling Serbia to fulfil its demands? Now that expression sounds so familiar to me. As for the guy in the picture, where does he get his hair cut?

biological austrian

pre 11 godina

Oh, the conservatives of germany. They will find new conditions as they want. And if the conditions are met, they critizice the own position, it was not exact enough. So they can impose new conditions ... and ... and ... and ... and.

I am sure, there is no date in june. Whatever will happen.

But, don't worry, my serbian friends, history will teach us nothing (hear at the song from STING). And history is not over, never. Also for germans

A biological austrian

Bata Kreza

pre 11 godina

What a surprise! They always liked us, and now this. Our dear friends. I am shocked. Who would tell that this is possible? Unbelievable.

Mr.Burns

pre 11 godina

the CDU/CSU faction presented seven demands to Serbia for the start of accession talks, and the decision regarding the start of accession talks with Serbia .


What a Colonial statement...friends, Remember they don't live here ...that guy can say what ever he wants , remember he doesn't think or even care about the consequences of his words .He will never live in Serbia nor will any other member of his party...its nice he has an opinion , he's entitled to it. but everyone has an opinion. And instability is bad for business.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

Germany is telling Serbia to fulfil its demands? Now that expression sounds so familiar to me. As for the guy in the picture, where does he get his hair cut?

Mr.Burns

pre 11 godina

the CDU/CSU faction presented seven demands to Serbia for the start of accession talks, and the decision regarding the start of accession talks with Serbia .


What a Colonial statement...friends, Remember they don't live here ...that guy can say what ever he wants , remember he doesn't think or even care about the consequences of his words .He will never live in Serbia nor will any other member of his party...its nice he has an opinion , he's entitled to it. but everyone has an opinion. And instability is bad for business.

Bata Kreza

pre 11 godina

What a surprise! They always liked us, and now this. Our dear friends. I am shocked. Who would tell that this is possible? Unbelievable.

Hilarious

pre 11 godina

Humiliation is something Serbs are used to. One more slap in the face will make no difference. Won't it be worth it to become eligible for EU membership.

Doing What They Do Best

pre 11 godina

Maybe the German government can construct some special camps for Serbs who refuse to accept their dictats. They've done it before.

biological austrian

pre 11 godina

Oh, the conservatives of germany. They will find new conditions as they want. And if the conditions are met, they critizice the own position, it was not exact enough. So they can impose new conditions ... and ... and ... and ... and.

I am sure, there is no date in june. Whatever will happen.

But, don't worry, my serbian friends, history will teach us nothing (hear at the song from STING). And history is not over, never. Also for germans

A biological austrian

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

You forgot to mention a very important comment Schockenhoff also made concerning Serbia’s political elite and their trustworthiness.

He said that one of the criteria the CDU/CSU will look at is how Serbia is conducting itself when it comes to the cooperation with the Hague tribunal because this is seen as a very important signal on how Serbia will be conducting the regional reconciliation process. He went on saying, that Nikolic’s statements at the UN conference last week pose a serious setback. If a President of a country puts the Hague Tribunal in line with the Inquisition or the Stalinist Courts in Russia, and if he sees the Brussels dialogue Catharine Ashton is conducting as an attempt to steal Kosovo from Serbia, one has to ask the question, if any solution found in Brussels will be seriously supported by the Serbian side.

Another thing which was not mentioned in your article is that this is not only the view of the ruling CDU/CSU party, but is also supported by all other parties in the German Bundestag, except for the former Communists, die Linke.

Retardirani Binsr

pre 11 godina

@John: Well spoken my friend. Germany cornered us by requesting that only German Porn is to be watched in Serbia (no Swedish). This is killing me.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Fortunately this is not up to CDU/CSU. Or to Germany. Nope.
It is up to EU as a whole. And as five countries do not recognize Kosovo... We all know what that means: Kosovo cannot join EU. Same for UN.
What a waste of time and resources! Learn to live together in one state!

zz

pre 11 godina

History lesson to those who don't pay attention:
1. Germans gives ultimatums 2. Serbs refuse to be humiliated 3. Germans attempt to destroy Serbia 4. Germany is destroyed for its wickedness. 5. Let history repeat itself!

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

yeah...bad germans. p.s. its Serbia that is trying to join the EU, a club that Germany contributes an awful lot to. you don't have to join. you can always look to Russia, but you keep voting people in who want the EU. their club, their rules. you don't have to play along

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Daniel

we're talking about the EU here, and Germany contributes a lot more to it than any other member state. but really, it was Serbia that applied to join. you don't have to seek accession. vote for parties who don't want it, but Serbs keep rejecting them. funny, you all say we don't want the EU and elect those who want it.
p.s. in the last 20 years, Serbia has contributed a lot of war criminals to the EU....2nd behind Germany in numbers. fact

Lots of Love

pre 11 godina

Ok, we used to moves of Germany since the WW I an II, nothing has been changed, same rules diferent methods. You got a state of your own and that is Croatia, they keep plying fascist games with no punishment...But as I already said we are used to..Now it is simple Germans, just pick a number, say out loud amount of money that will make you stop harassing this poor but righteous and brave country. Say what do you need, what do you want and and maybe we will make something good for all. As arnauts have all ready done they gave money to the west to fight for their cause. Now its our turn.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...biased Hague circus..."

ha! classic tactic. what makes you so sure that the Nuremburg Trials weren't biased? yeah yeah its always the evil west that has agenda. the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)

Bata

pre 11 godina

@Doing What They Do Best: Thinking along these lines, they can just re-introduce 1:100 rule, i.e. for each killed German, 100 Serbs have to be killed. However, the problem is that Serbs do not kill Germans, so the rule can be modified into something like "For each refused demand, 100 Serbs is to be killed".

Michael

pre 11 godina

Serbia must remember that all Germany is offering is the possible opportunity to maybe set a date in the future sometime when the possibility of eventual EU membership in the future will be discussed and, if all EU nations agree, the chance to maybe become a part of the EU someday when the EU feels like accepting it. In the meantime, Serbia must absolutely do whatever Germany says it must do on any given day, including anything it says, and do it however Germany says it must, or Serbia can't be in the EU. Nobody rational would ever accept this situation. Serbia needs to get smart. New German demands will just keep coming.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Humiliation is something Serbs are used to. One more slap in the face will make no difference. Won't it be worth it to become eligible for EU membership.
(Hilarious, 18 April 2013 21:00)

Never, the germans can say whatever they want we will not sign anything that doesn´t fulfill OUR wishes and demands. EU and especially the 4th reich can go to hell. EU is not only Germany and thankfully the other countries are realizing that Germany once again is trying to dominate Europe. They won´t succeed this time either.

j

pre 11 godina

Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Josef Mengele
Rudolf Hess

- Daniel you forgot Milosevic, Karadjic, Sesejl. Some of these people have the added similarity that were captured after the war and or defended from ultraextremists while hiding from international law. See how is it is? Quite simple. Also try to get out more often, you have become chemical Ali lately. Self appointed defender of Serbdom and Serbian honor. I will give you a medal for your fierce typing capabilities and and for heroically withstanding carpal tunnel syndrome.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

- Daniel you forgot Milosevic, Karadjic, Sesejl. Some of these people have the added similarity that were captured after the war and or defended from ultraextremists while hiding from international law. See how is it is? Quite simple. Also try to get out more often, you have become chemical Ali lately. Self appointed defender of Serbdom and Serbian honor. I will give you a medal for your fierce typing capabilities and and for heroically withstanding carpal tunnel syndrome.
(j, 19 April 2013 14:19)

What has Milosevic and Seselj been convicted for?How many did they kill?Millions like the germans right?And Nikolle you albanians have as many or even more war criminals only difference is that you suckup to the germans and the us and thats why the biased Hague circus aquitted your murderers such as Mrs. Snake and Haradinaj.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Hi Daniel,

I know you're not in Serbia, so it can be a bit confusing looking in from the outside.

What has Serbia done to deserve EU talks? It's no where near square 1 even.

All this stuff about stopping harbouring ITCY indictees? pre square 1

solving open problems with it's neighbours? pre square 1

Serbia has not even begun what it needs to do (massive reforms of its everything) compared to Romania, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc.

"Just take a look at Croatia they did absolutely nothing to solve the problems with serb returnees "

Not true. I know several Serbian refugees that has their houses rebuilt. I don't think they've done enough, but it's not true that they've "done nothing"

Whatever the case EU is an economic and political zone with rules to join it, not some sort of "reward" or something that's deserved just because you think so.

I know ur a westerner with Serbian roots that probably gets most of his info from gossip during lunch in a church basement, but at least try to be objective

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Tell me in what other way have Germany "contributed" to Europe and the world except for murdering millions of people?
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 13:38)

you know.... the world didn't stop in 1945

Пифф - пафф - пуфф - ой-ой-ой, умирает зайчик мой

pre 11 godina

Another thing which was not mentioned in your article is that this is not only the view of the ruling CDU/CSU party, but is also supported by all other parties in the German Bundestag, except for the former Communists, die Linke.
(Willi Pfaff, 19 April 2013 08:48)

B92 forgot to mention even more important fact: it is also supported by Beghjet "Bill" Pfaffisha

Daniel

pre 11 godina

yeah...bad germans. p.s. its Serbia that is trying to join the EU, a club that Germany contributes an awful lot to. you don't have to join. you can always look to Russia, but you keep voting people in who want the EU. their club, their rules. you don't have to play along
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 12:39)

Tell me in what other way have Germany "contributed" to Europe and the world except for murdering millions of people?

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I love how people throw around "ultimatum", forgetting that it's Serbia applying to join the EU, not the other way around.
(Danilo, 19 April 2013 12:14)

So what?No other country that has applied for membership has done as much as serbia has to deserve it. Just take a look at Croatia they did absolutely nothing to solve the problems with serb returnees or punish those who committed crimes upon serbs absolutely nothing, zero. I know ur a serb hater but at least try to be objective.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

You forgot to mention a very important comment Schockenhoff also made concerning Serbia’s political elite and their trustworthiness.

Maybe they should mention Kosovos political "elite" the terrorists and murderers mr Snake and Haradinaj. Last but not least a GERMAN should be the last one to talk about trustworthiness. I will only mention a few names to show how trustworthy germans are.

Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Josef Mengele
Rudolf Hess

And there are a thousands of more "prominent"germans. I hope you are proud of ur history and the fact that you and your people are considered the most bloodthirsty barbarians in the history of mankind willi. That is trly something to be proud of. And dont give me that crap that you have "changed". You were nevere punished for what you did, you didnt get any punishment whatsoever so just shut up. You are the same as you were 70 yrs ago you just use different tactics. You are a devil in disguise.

R2D2

pre 11 godina

Hey Germans you are playing with fire...are you aware of amounth of muslims that are growing in your country, that are flooding Europe every day, and they dont stop...they will never stop...green transversal is keep growing...with your help they will cross Serbia easily and you know that Serbia is last stance from East and South...Insted of helping this last frontier you are playing aginst it...I cant see the reason why, ok you dont like us, and you will never forgive a Ferdinands death, but with the behavior like this you are just building a bridge...is that on purpose, what side are you on?

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I know ur a westerner with Serbian roots that probably gets most of his info from gossip during lunch in a church basement, but at least try to be objective
(Danilo, 19 April 2013 14:42)

I was born and raised in Serbia and have lived here all my life, what more do I need to proove for you?Keep ur mouth shut kalb-lover.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

ha! classic tactic. what makes you so sure that the Nuremburg Trials weren't biased? yeah yeah its always the evil west that has agenda. the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 14:35)
'
Easy answer to that one, compare the verdicts against the german nazis that killed millions of people with the verdicts against serb generals and you will see that the sentences the germans got were more than 10 times shorter.

Yeah of course it was set up by UN. I guess George Soros is a huge sponsor of the UN and for your knowledge neither Russia or China were even asked before the "court"was already established. You are so unintelligent and uninformed that Im ashamed how easy it is to make you look like a fool. Btw your very good at doing that yourself without my assistance. You are so confident in your lies that you have begun to believe they are actually true.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

I was born and raised in Serbia and have lived here all my life
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 19:24)


In that case, your extreme confusion on some matters can be forgiven

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Nonsense, Daniel.

every EU candidate had to be at a certain level and resolve certain issues before they could become a candidate. For example, Slovenia blocked Croatia due to their border dispute.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

And Danilo by the way the difference between Serbia and earlier eu candidates is that the pressure that EU has put on Serbia to fulfill demands even BEFORE GETTING A DATE TO NEGOTIATE about EU membership and that has never ever happened to another country. All the other countries that entered EU first got a date to negotiate and THEN EU put the pressure on. Not the other way around.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

its sweet that you think you're making me look stupid. its called The UN Hague Tribunal for a reason. It was agreed by all Security Council members, Russia & China too :-)

icj1

pre 11 godina

the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 14:35)

Yeah of course it was set up by UN. I guess George Soros is a huge sponsor of the UN and for your knowledge neither Russia or China were even asked before the "court"was already established. You are so unintelligent and uninformed that Im ashamed how easy it is to make you look like a fool.
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 19:30)

If you consult Vuk's UN documents (S/PV.3217), you will notice that Russia not only was aware about the Court, not only approved it (as Nikolle said), but, hear this, Russia actually was a sponsor of the resolution introduced in the UNSC to create the court.

This is what Mr. Vorontsov, President of the UNSC, had to say on 25 May 1993 during the vote:

"The Russian Federation not only supported but, in fact, co-sponsored the draft resolution that establishes the International Tribunal"

Unintelligence and uninformation can be understood for some people in Serbia being fed with propaganda only. It is like the dark ages when people were told by the church what the truth was and nobody questioned that :)

biological austrian

pre 11 godina

Oh, the conservatives of germany. They will find new conditions as they want. And if the conditions are met, they critizice the own position, it was not exact enough. So they can impose new conditions ... and ... and ... and ... and.

I am sure, there is no date in june. Whatever will happen.

But, don't worry, my serbian friends, history will teach us nothing (hear at the song from STING). And history is not over, never. Also for germans

A biological austrian

Mr.Burns

pre 11 godina

the CDU/CSU faction presented seven demands to Serbia for the start of accession talks, and the decision regarding the start of accession talks with Serbia .


What a Colonial statement...friends, Remember they don't live here ...that guy can say what ever he wants , remember he doesn't think or even care about the consequences of his words .He will never live in Serbia nor will any other member of his party...its nice he has an opinion , he's entitled to it. but everyone has an opinion. And instability is bad for business.

Hilarious

pre 11 godina

Humiliation is something Serbs are used to. One more slap in the face will make no difference. Won't it be worth it to become eligible for EU membership.

Bata Kreza

pre 11 godina

What a surprise! They always liked us, and now this. Our dear friends. I am shocked. Who would tell that this is possible? Unbelievable.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

Germany is telling Serbia to fulfil its demands? Now that expression sounds so familiar to me. As for the guy in the picture, where does he get his hair cut?

Doing What They Do Best

pre 11 godina

Maybe the German government can construct some special camps for Serbs who refuse to accept their dictats. They've done it before.

zz

pre 11 godina

History lesson to those who don't pay attention:
1. Germans gives ultimatums 2. Serbs refuse to be humiliated 3. Germans attempt to destroy Serbia 4. Germany is destroyed for its wickedness. 5. Let history repeat itself!

Bata

pre 11 godina

@Doing What They Do Best: Thinking along these lines, they can just re-introduce 1:100 rule, i.e. for each killed German, 100 Serbs have to be killed. However, the problem is that Serbs do not kill Germans, so the rule can be modified into something like "For each refused demand, 100 Serbs is to be killed".

Michael

pre 11 godina

Serbia must remember that all Germany is offering is the possible opportunity to maybe set a date in the future sometime when the possibility of eventual EU membership in the future will be discussed and, if all EU nations agree, the chance to maybe become a part of the EU someday when the EU feels like accepting it. In the meantime, Serbia must absolutely do whatever Germany says it must do on any given day, including anything it says, and do it however Germany says it must, or Serbia can't be in the EU. Nobody rational would ever accept this situation. Serbia needs to get smart. New German demands will just keep coming.

Retardirani Binsr

pre 11 godina

@John: Well spoken my friend. Germany cornered us by requesting that only German Porn is to be watched in Serbia (no Swedish). This is killing me.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Fortunately this is not up to CDU/CSU. Or to Germany. Nope.
It is up to EU as a whole. And as five countries do not recognize Kosovo... We all know what that means: Kosovo cannot join EU. Same for UN.
What a waste of time and resources! Learn to live together in one state!

Daniel

pre 11 godina

yeah...bad germans. p.s. its Serbia that is trying to join the EU, a club that Germany contributes an awful lot to. you don't have to join. you can always look to Russia, but you keep voting people in who want the EU. their club, their rules. you don't have to play along
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 12:39)

Tell me in what other way have Germany "contributed" to Europe and the world except for murdering millions of people?

Пифф - пафф - пуфф - ой-ой-ой, умирает зайчик мой

pre 11 godina

Another thing which was not mentioned in your article is that this is not only the view of the ruling CDU/CSU party, but is also supported by all other parties in the German Bundestag, except for the former Communists, die Linke.
(Willi Pfaff, 19 April 2013 08:48)

B92 forgot to mention even more important fact: it is also supported by Beghjet "Bill" Pfaffisha

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I love how people throw around "ultimatum", forgetting that it's Serbia applying to join the EU, not the other way around.
(Danilo, 19 April 2013 12:14)

So what?No other country that has applied for membership has done as much as serbia has to deserve it. Just take a look at Croatia they did absolutely nothing to solve the problems with serb returnees or punish those who committed crimes upon serbs absolutely nothing, zero. I know ur a serb hater but at least try to be objective.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

You forgot to mention a very important comment Schockenhoff also made concerning Serbia’s political elite and their trustworthiness.

Maybe they should mention Kosovos political "elite" the terrorists and murderers mr Snake and Haradinaj. Last but not least a GERMAN should be the last one to talk about trustworthiness. I will only mention a few names to show how trustworthy germans are.

Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Josef Mengele
Rudolf Hess

And there are a thousands of more "prominent"germans. I hope you are proud of ur history and the fact that you and your people are considered the most bloodthirsty barbarians in the history of mankind willi. That is trly something to be proud of. And dont give me that crap that you have "changed". You were nevere punished for what you did, you didnt get any punishment whatsoever so just shut up. You are the same as you were 70 yrs ago you just use different tactics. You are a devil in disguise.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Humiliation is something Serbs are used to. One more slap in the face will make no difference. Won't it be worth it to become eligible for EU membership.
(Hilarious, 18 April 2013 21:00)

Never, the germans can say whatever they want we will not sign anything that doesn´t fulfill OUR wishes and demands. EU and especially the 4th reich can go to hell. EU is not only Germany and thankfully the other countries are realizing that Germany once again is trying to dominate Europe. They won´t succeed this time either.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

- Daniel you forgot Milosevic, Karadjic, Sesejl. Some of these people have the added similarity that were captured after the war and or defended from ultraextremists while hiding from international law. See how is it is? Quite simple. Also try to get out more often, you have become chemical Ali lately. Self appointed defender of Serbdom and Serbian honor. I will give you a medal for your fierce typing capabilities and and for heroically withstanding carpal tunnel syndrome.
(j, 19 April 2013 14:19)

What has Milosevic and Seselj been convicted for?How many did they kill?Millions like the germans right?And Nikolle you albanians have as many or even more war criminals only difference is that you suckup to the germans and the us and thats why the biased Hague circus aquitted your murderers such as Mrs. Snake and Haradinaj.

R2D2

pre 11 godina

Hey Germans you are playing with fire...are you aware of amounth of muslims that are growing in your country, that are flooding Europe every day, and they dont stop...they will never stop...green transversal is keep growing...with your help they will cross Serbia easily and you know that Serbia is last stance from East and South...Insted of helping this last frontier you are playing aginst it...I cant see the reason why, ok you dont like us, and you will never forgive a Ferdinands death, but with the behavior like this you are just building a bridge...is that on purpose, what side are you on?

Willi Pfaff

pre 11 godina

You forgot to mention a very important comment Schockenhoff also made concerning Serbia’s political elite and their trustworthiness.

He said that one of the criteria the CDU/CSU will look at is how Serbia is conducting itself when it comes to the cooperation with the Hague tribunal because this is seen as a very important signal on how Serbia will be conducting the regional reconciliation process. He went on saying, that Nikolic’s statements at the UN conference last week pose a serious setback. If a President of a country puts the Hague Tribunal in line with the Inquisition or the Stalinist Courts in Russia, and if he sees the Brussels dialogue Catharine Ashton is conducting as an attempt to steal Kosovo from Serbia, one has to ask the question, if any solution found in Brussels will be seriously supported by the Serbian side.

Another thing which was not mentioned in your article is that this is not only the view of the ruling CDU/CSU party, but is also supported by all other parties in the German Bundestag, except for the former Communists, die Linke.

j

pre 11 godina

Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Josef Mengele
Rudolf Hess

- Daniel you forgot Milosevic, Karadjic, Sesejl. Some of these people have the added similarity that were captured after the war and or defended from ultraextremists while hiding from international law. See how is it is? Quite simple. Also try to get out more often, you have become chemical Ali lately. Self appointed defender of Serbdom and Serbian honor. I will give you a medal for your fierce typing capabilities and and for heroically withstanding carpal tunnel syndrome.

Lots of Love

pre 11 godina

Ok, we used to moves of Germany since the WW I an II, nothing has been changed, same rules diferent methods. You got a state of your own and that is Croatia, they keep plying fascist games with no punishment...But as I already said we are used to..Now it is simple Germans, just pick a number, say out loud amount of money that will make you stop harassing this poor but righteous and brave country. Say what do you need, what do you want and and maybe we will make something good for all. As arnauts have all ready done they gave money to the west to fight for their cause. Now its our turn.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Hi Daniel,

I know you're not in Serbia, so it can be a bit confusing looking in from the outside.

What has Serbia done to deserve EU talks? It's no where near square 1 even.

All this stuff about stopping harbouring ITCY indictees? pre square 1

solving open problems with it's neighbours? pre square 1

Serbia has not even begun what it needs to do (massive reforms of its everything) compared to Romania, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc.

"Just take a look at Croatia they did absolutely nothing to solve the problems with serb returnees "

Not true. I know several Serbian refugees that has their houses rebuilt. I don't think they've done enough, but it's not true that they've "done nothing"

Whatever the case EU is an economic and political zone with rules to join it, not some sort of "reward" or something that's deserved just because you think so.

I know ur a westerner with Serbian roots that probably gets most of his info from gossip during lunch in a church basement, but at least try to be objective

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Tell me in what other way have Germany "contributed" to Europe and the world except for murdering millions of people?
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 13:38)

you know.... the world didn't stop in 1945

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I know ur a westerner with Serbian roots that probably gets most of his info from gossip during lunch in a church basement, but at least try to be objective
(Danilo, 19 April 2013 14:42)

I was born and raised in Serbia and have lived here all my life, what more do I need to proove for you?Keep ur mouth shut kalb-lover.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

ha! classic tactic. what makes you so sure that the Nuremburg Trials weren't biased? yeah yeah its always the evil west that has agenda. the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 14:35)
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Easy answer to that one, compare the verdicts against the german nazis that killed millions of people with the verdicts against serb generals and you will see that the sentences the germans got were more than 10 times shorter.

Yeah of course it was set up by UN. I guess George Soros is a huge sponsor of the UN and for your knowledge neither Russia or China were even asked before the "court"was already established. You are so unintelligent and uninformed that Im ashamed how easy it is to make you look like a fool. Btw your very good at doing that yourself without my assistance. You are so confident in your lies that you have begun to believe they are actually true.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

And Danilo by the way the difference between Serbia and earlier eu candidates is that the pressure that EU has put on Serbia to fulfill demands even BEFORE GETTING A DATE TO NEGOTIATE about EU membership and that has never ever happened to another country. All the other countries that entered EU first got a date to negotiate and THEN EU put the pressure on. Not the other way around.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

yeah...bad germans. p.s. its Serbia that is trying to join the EU, a club that Germany contributes an awful lot to. you don't have to join. you can always look to Russia, but you keep voting people in who want the EU. their club, their rules. you don't have to play along

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Daniel

we're talking about the EU here, and Germany contributes a lot more to it than any other member state. but really, it was Serbia that applied to join. you don't have to seek accession. vote for parties who don't want it, but Serbs keep rejecting them. funny, you all say we don't want the EU and elect those who want it.
p.s. in the last 20 years, Serbia has contributed a lot of war criminals to the EU....2nd behind Germany in numbers. fact

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...biased Hague circus..."

ha! classic tactic. what makes you so sure that the Nuremburg Trials weren't biased? yeah yeah its always the evil west that has agenda. the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)

Danilo

pre 11 godina

I was born and raised in Serbia and have lived here all my life
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 19:24)


In that case, your extreme confusion on some matters can be forgiven

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Nonsense, Daniel.

every EU candidate had to be at a certain level and resolve certain issues before they could become a candidate. For example, Slovenia blocked Croatia due to their border dispute.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

its sweet that you think you're making me look stupid. its called The UN Hague Tribunal for a reason. It was agreed by all Security Council members, Russia & China too :-)

icj1

pre 11 godina

the Hague by the way, was set up by the UN, with Russia's and China's approval :-)
(Nikolle, 19 April 2013 14:35)

Yeah of course it was set up by UN. I guess George Soros is a huge sponsor of the UN and for your knowledge neither Russia or China were even asked before the "court"was already established. You are so unintelligent and uninformed that Im ashamed how easy it is to make you look like a fool.
(Daniel, 19 April 2013 19:30)

If you consult Vuk's UN documents (S/PV.3217), you will notice that Russia not only was aware about the Court, not only approved it (as Nikolle said), but, hear this, Russia actually was a sponsor of the resolution introduced in the UNSC to create the court.

This is what Mr. Vorontsov, President of the UNSC, had to say on 25 May 1993 during the vote:

"The Russian Federation not only supported but, in fact, co-sponsored the draft resolution that establishes the International Tribunal"

Unintelligence and uninformation can be understood for some people in Serbia being fed with propaganda only. It is like the dark ages when people were told by the church what the truth was and nobody questioned that :)