Serbian president: There is line Serbia must not cross

He doesn't get it. Kosovo is already no longer a part of Serbia. It is gone. So he can sit there and speak for himself by not recognizing its independence but by doing so he will only delay the inevitable.
(T, 17 April 2013 12:59)

It is no longer controlled by Serbia, but Serbia can very easily interpret it as a temporary occupation. What Kosovo i Metohija surely is not is a country. Countries don't take more than 5 years to join the UN. Countries don't beg others to recognize them and give them money to do so. Countries don't depend on international alliances for humanitarian donations.

I don't see why you don't like Nikolic. He is extremely moderate in this respect. Serbia could very easily close these negotiations, keep Kosovo i Metohija in a frozen conflict and eventually all Albanians who can find a better life outside of the territory would leave.

It would mean not joining the EU, but who the hell cares? Switzerland is not a part of the EU either. Is Serbia Switzerland? No. But the point of that is as long as you create conditions for investment then you will be fine. And none of those conditions are shaking hands with terrorists and organ extractors in Brussels.

Must not and will not. NEVER

Must not and will not. NEVER...
(Daniel, 17 April 2013 11:40)

...join the EU.

Just to complete your sentence.

Ari Gold,
I don't like Nikolic because he is a relic of the past, he can't think outside the box, he is a muppet of the church and never ever comes up with a solution. All he does and has done is criticize others, goes on hunger strike when things don't suit him and talks in riddles. He shakes hands with dictators and shuns the west and to date has done nothing that has brought Serbia one step forward.
Maybe Serbia does not need the EU but it is no Switzerland either and has no chance of becoming one unless it rids itself of these banana republic style politics and unshackles itself of the past.
What Serbia needs is a president that is forward thinking, progressive and inspiring. Sorry mate but I just can't see these qualities in Nikolic. He is a waste of space.

T:

What is it you prefer, a lapdog for the EU/US? What is your definition of moving forward, giving away territory for a date or even membership? If that is the price, then to hell with a bankrupt EU. Seems like everytime any Serb politician makes a stance towards territorial integrity, people like you come out with wisdom such as "old relics" or "Milosevic is the cause", and the bullshit never stops. Face it, this is about the US doing what it does best, bombs little countries for their resources. They are inching towards Russia, and that's what the game is about.

(T, 17 April 2013 14:12)

No don't get me wrong, I don't like Nikolic either. I just don't see how a politician who is treasonous to Serbia's national interest could not garner YOUR support.

Serbia is not Switzerland correct. But the point of all that was as long as Serbia focuses on itself and creating the best possible space for domestic entrepreneurship as well as foreign investment, it will succeed. And none of those things involve handshakes with terrorists, capitulation, autonomy for northern Serbia, LGBT pride parades or any other nonsense the EU wants us to do.

He doesn't get it. Kosovo is already no longer a part of Serbia. It is gone. So he can sit there and speak for himself by not recognizing its independence but by doing so he will only delay the inevitable.

T, you are right on. Nikolic is an hag radical from te past, still living in some dream Serbian state that he and like him have conccted in their nationalistic brains. I pay little attention to what he says, and most citizens with a brain in Serbia do no eiher. He is a fossil, that because of unfortunate circumstances was finally able to com to power. But, i will be short lived, because he has zero to offer but nationalistic mumbo jumbo that the peasant population laps up. He will be long gone before his mandate is up.

Ari Gold

In what year did Switzerland join the UN? 2002

How many years has Switzerland been a state? 722 years

We dont want to if we did we´d have signed the ultimatums. Who cares abut the EU its falling apart.
(Daniel, 17 April 2013 13:52)

Well said. People without integrity will accept everything. Fortunately, Serbia is not among them.

We dont want to if we did we´d have signed the ultimatums. Who cares abut the EU its falling apart.
(Daniel, 17 April 2013 13:52)

If the EU is falling apart, then why you want to join so badly? Why you don't stop it right now...?

The line Serbia must not cross is to start another military campaign against Albanians. It is thankfully becoming clear that despite all the craziness that still remains, the majority of Serbs are giving up the idea of exterminating or somehow subduing Albanians. Which is good for everybody.

What needs to happen next is this: we Albanians need to start believing Serbs when they say that war is no longer a threat. Realistically, the threat of a war from Serbia is no greater than the threat of a war from Greece at this point. Time to relax just a little bit and try to put the whole thing behind us.

Ari Gold

In what year did Switzerland join the UN? 2002

How many years has Switzerland been a state? 722 years
(kiko, 17 April 2013 16:23)

There is a difference between not wanting to join the UN, and being told your institutions are not allowed to join the UN.

Ari Gold

In what year did Switzerland join the UN? 2002

How many years has Switzerland been a state? 722 years
(kiko, 17 April 2013 16:23)

There is a difference between not wanting to join the UN, and being told your institutions are not allowed to join the UN.
(Ari Gold, 17 April 2013 17:33)

Ari,
I thought you are an educated person, but your response to kiko, proves otherwise.

Again Balkan politician. Believe him if you want but at least we have something in common. Politicians that just talk crap from both sides if their mouths at the same time.

Ari Gold,
Maybe it is time to read more than B92",Countries don't depend on international alliances for humanitarian donations" Probably a third or more of the world do exactly that..

Lines and borders are there to be or not to be crossed, and for every choice that is to be made there is a proper punishment. We choose to stay strong and to continue with negotiations, as that is the only way for our fight right now. We belive that fair solution will be found and that both sides will be satisfied with it. Also we hope that EU mediator will righteosly stand in the midle and help in sloving this problem. With Gods help we might today close this problem once and for all...if not today some day in near future...

If the EU is falling apart, then why you want to join so badly? Why you don't stop it right now...?
(John, 17 April 2013 14:43)

If we wanted it so badly we would have signed the ultimatum right?What the hell do you care you dont even live here. You are 5000 km away from europe and put ur nose where it doesnt belong. And we did stop it, remember we said NO to the ultimatum and now they beg us to come back and "negotiate". Lets make a referendum and you would see how eager the people is to join the EU..NOT. A hungarian living in US commenting on a serb site, dont u have a life?You opinion doesnt count you dont even live in europe let alone in Serbia.

Just to complete your sentence.
(John, 17 April 2013 12:52)

We dont want to if we did we´d have signed the ultimatums. Who cares abut the EU its falling apart.

The line Serbiq should have never crossed was to have elected you as a president ! To choose a member of Milosevic team and responsible of all current Serbian problems to fix them ! When you are sick you call doctor to fix it and don tbcall virus thinking he will fixt it ! Dummies !

there is A line...

i love serbs and their lack of direct/indirect articles when using english.. funny :)

Ari Gold

"Countries don't take more than 5 years to join the UN." My comment was in reference to this sentence of yours. And the UN or any body is not telling Kosovo/a you can or can not join. They have a rule book that states clearly what the prerequisites are for joining the organization called the UN.

Has Kosovo/a got a 2/3 majority yet? Answer NO! Will it get it one day? To be determined (TBD). Then it can be put to a vote.

There are many "countries" in the world that are not recognized by other countries. Doesn't mean that they are not a country. Just as Switzerland has been a country for 722 years and the UN is 68 years old. So Switzerland has only been a member for 11 years.

So my question based on your comment what was Switzerland for 57 years since it was not part of the UN? Based on your definition it was not a country, so what was it?

Of course there is, but I am glad that the new government (or a part of it) is ready to back up a little and reconsider its stands in order to provide for more secure and easy-going future for its citizens! (Progressives) You have my vote, that's for sure!

Wow was the LinE crossed!!!

He doesn't get it. Kosovo is already no longer a part of Serbia. It is gone. So he can sit there and speak for himself by not recognizing its independence but by doing so he will only delay the inevitable.
(T, 17 April 2013 12:59)

It is no longer controlled by Serbia, but Serbia can very easily interpret it as a temporary occupation. What Kosovo i Metohija surely is not is a country. Countries don't take more than 5 years to join the UN. Countries don't beg others to recognize them and give them money to do so. Countries don't depend on international alliances for humanitarian donations.

I don't see why you don't like Nikolic. He is extremely moderate in this respect. Serbia could very easily close these negotiations, keep Kosovo i Metohija in a frozen conflict and eventually all Albanians who can find a better life outside of the territory would leave.

It would mean not joining the EU, but who the hell cares? Switzerland is not a part of the EU either. Is Serbia Switzerland? No. But the point of that is as long as you create conditions for investment then you will be fine. And none of those conditions are shaking hands with terrorists and organ extractors in Brussels.

T:

What is it you prefer, a lapdog for the EU/US? What is your definition of moving forward, giving away territory for a date or even membership? If that is the price, then to hell with a bankrupt EU. Seems like everytime any Serb politician makes a stance towards territorial integrity, people like you come out with wisdom such as "old relics" or "Milosevic is the cause", and the bullshit never stops. Face it, this is about the US doing what it does best, bombs little countries for their resources. They are inching towards Russia, and that's what the game is about.

He doesn't get it. Kosovo is already no longer a part of Serbia. It is gone. So he can sit there and speak for himself by not recognizing its independence but by doing so he will only delay the inevitable.

Ari Gold

In what year did Switzerland join the UN? 2002

How many years has Switzerland been a state? 722 years
(kiko, 17 April 2013 16:23)

There is a difference between not wanting to join the UN, and being told your institutions are not allowed to join the UN.

Must not and will not. NEVER

Must not and will not. NEVER...
(Daniel, 17 April 2013 11:40)

...join the EU.

Just to complete your sentence.

The line Serbia must not cross is to start another military campaign against Albanians. It is thankfully becoming clear that despite all the craziness that still remains, the majority of Serbs are giving up the idea of exterminating or somehow subduing Albanians. Which is good for everybody.

What needs to happen next is this: we Albanians need to start believing Serbs when they say that war is no longer a threat. Realistically, the threat of a war from Serbia is no greater than the threat of a war from Greece at this point. Time to relax just a little bit and try to put the whole thing behind us.

T, you are right on. Nikolic is an hag radical from te past, still living in some dream Serbian state that he and like him have conccted in their nationalistic brains. I pay little attention to what he says, and most citizens with a brain in Serbia do no eiher. He is a fossil, that because of unfortunate circumstances was finally able to com to power. But, i will be short lived, because he has zero to offer but nationalistic mumbo jumbo that the peasant population laps up. He will be long gone before his mandate is up.

We dont want to if we did we´d have signed the ultimatums. Who cares abut the EU its falling apart.
(Daniel, 17 April 2013 13:52)

If the EU is falling apart, then why you want to join so badly? Why you don't stop it right now...?

Just to complete your sentence.
(John, 17 April 2013 12:52)

We dont want to if we did we´d have signed the ultimatums. Who cares abut the EU its falling apart.

(T, 17 April 2013 14:12)

No don't get me wrong, I don't like Nikolic either. I just don't see how a politician who is treasonous to Serbia's national interest could not garner YOUR support.

Serbia is not Switzerland correct. But the point of all that was as long as Serbia focuses on itself and creating the best possible space for domestic entrepreneurship as well as foreign investment, it will succeed. And none of those things involve handshakes with terrorists, capitulation, autonomy for northern Serbia, LGBT pride parades or any other nonsense the EU wants us to do.

Lines and borders are there to be or not to be crossed, and for every choice that is to be made there is a proper punishment. We choose to stay strong and to continue with negotiations, as that is the only way for our fight right now. We belive that fair solution will be found and that both sides will be satisfied with it. Also we hope that EU mediator will righteosly stand in the midle and help in sloving this problem. With Gods help we might today close this problem once and for all...if not today some day in near future...

Ari Gold

In what year did Switzerland join the UN? 2002

How many years has Switzerland been a state? 722 years
(kiko, 17 April 2013 16:23)

There is a difference between not wanting to join the UN, and being told your institutions are not allowed to join the UN.
(Ari Gold, 17 April 2013 17:33)

Ari,
I thought you are an educated person, but your response to kiko, proves otherwise.

If the EU is falling apart, then why you want to join so badly? Why you don't stop it right now...?
(John, 17 April 2013 14:43)

If we wanted it so badly we would have signed the ultimatum right?What the hell do you care you dont even live here. You are 5000 km away from europe and put ur nose where it doesnt belong. And we did stop it, remember we said NO to the ultimatum and now they beg us to come back and "negotiate". Lets make a referendum and you would see how eager the people is to join the EU..NOT. A hungarian living in US commenting on a serb site, dont u have a life?You opinion doesnt count you dont even live in europe let alone in Serbia.

Ari Gold

In what year did Switzerland join the UN? 2002

How many years has Switzerland been a state? 722 years

We dont want to if we did we´d have signed the ultimatums. Who cares abut the EU its falling apart.
(Daniel, 17 April 2013 13:52)

Well said. People without integrity will accept everything. Fortunately, Serbia is not among them.

there is A line...

i love serbs and their lack of direct/indirect articles when using english.. funny :)

The line Serbiq should have never crossed was to have elected you as a president ! To choose a member of Milosevic team and responsible of all current Serbian problems to fix them ! When you are sick you call doctor to fix it and don tbcall virus thinking he will fixt it ! Dummies !

Ari Gold,
Maybe it is time to read more than B92",Countries don't depend on international alliances for humanitarian donations" Probably a third or more of the world do exactly that..

Ari Gold,
I don't like Nikolic because he is a relic of the past, he can't think outside the box, he is a muppet of the church and never ever comes up with a solution. All he does and has done is criticize others, goes on hunger strike when things don't suit him and talks in riddles. He shakes hands with dictators and shuns the west and to date has done nothing that has brought Serbia one step forward.
Maybe Serbia does not need the EU but it is no Switzerland either and has no chance of becoming one unless it rids itself of these banana republic style politics and unshackles itself of the past.
What Serbia needs is a president that is forward thinking, progressive and inspiring. Sorry mate but I just can't see these qualities in Nikolic. He is a waste of space.

Again Balkan politician. Believe him if you want but at least we have something in common. Politicians that just talk crap from both sides if their mouths at the same time.

Ari Gold

"Countries don't take more than 5 years to join the UN." My comment was in reference to this sentence of yours. And the UN or any body is not telling Kosovo/a you can or can not join. They have a rule book that states clearly what the prerequisites are for joining the organization called the UN.

Has Kosovo/a got a 2/3 majority yet? Answer NO! Will it get it one day? To be determined (TBD). Then it can be put to a vote.

There are many "countries" in the world that are not recognized by other countries. Doesn't mean that they are not a country. Just as Switzerland has been a country for 722 years and the UN is 68 years old. So Switzerland has only been a member for 11 years.

So my question based on your comment what was Switzerland for 57 years since it was not part of the UN? Based on your definition it was not a country, so what was it?

Wow was the LinE crossed!!!

Of course there is, but I am glad that the new government (or a part of it) is ready to back up a little and reconsider its stands in order to provide for more secure and easy-going future for its citizens! (Progressives) You have my vote, that's for sure!