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Sunday, 07.04.2013.

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“EU’s proposal cannot be implemented”

Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dačić has stated that Serbia could hardly accept Brussels' proposal on Kosovo because it would be impossible to be implement it.

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Ratatuli

pre 11 godina

It cant be implemented when there is no proposal on table. There was just "non paper thing" which even can not be repeated because of its unknown content. There was nothing to choose so how to expect to implement something that doesnt exist. Serbia must refuse this kind od agreement because accepting such proposal collapses statehood and constitution of the state. Serbia must return to negotiations but to create awareness of the audience in positive way for her self. That is only possible if we return with negotiations under coverage of UN. State management has made ​​the right decision in rejecting this rude message from EU.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Presheva valley is overwhelmingly Albanian and it has territorial continuity with Kosova, so no trauma there neither.

It only needs bit of good will and sens of reality.
(ben, 7 April 2013 13:00)

Presevo valley is not albanian majority. Bujanovac and Medvedja has a serbian majority by far and in Presevo its about 50 50.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Please let us know if and when that number is agreed :)
(icj1, 7 April 2013 20:03)
And you forgot to add that the "agreed" number is restricted to doing very limited NON police duties.

EJB

pre 11 godina

"EU's proposal cannot be implemented" Don't be a negativist. TRY IT! "implementation is impossible" no, nothing is impossible. Take a page from Napoleon, who said "impossible is not French". Serbs, who constantly brag about their qualities should paraphrase Napoleon by saying "impossible is not Serbian, we will sign that agreement".
(Dave Goldstein, 7 April 2013 17:17)

Do you know how Napoleon ended up? No thank you, keep your “good-natured” advice to yourself.

Mary

pre 11 godina

Of course it cannot be implemented. How to decide which hand you want to be amputated, left or right? That kind of decision is in front of Serbia.

Granny-in-disguise

pre 11 godina

No yellow brick road for Serbia - not yet! Serbia's hardship is not yet going to end! There is no ultimate solution for this situation, I hope we can all understand that much - there's only a step out of this devastating and tiresome process. It's easy to sit, stare at your desktop and blabber about right things to do and talking some "big, macho, "I-could-do-it-rigt" politics!!! i think these guys (well, at least some them) deserve some credits for being in this freaking show! I am sure they're competencies and attitudes (not necessarily, publicly presented ones) are fit for this role!

icj1

pre 11 godina

UNSCR1244 - Let noone forget about this.
Kosovo is Serbia's province. A now disputed territory but we will be allowed a number of police to reenter Kosovo.
(trizo, 7 April 2013 12:53)

Of course, even though not just "a number" but "an agreed number" (as the Arabic, Chinese, Englihs, French, Russian and Spanish versions of UNSCR 1244 state - not sure about the Serbian one).

Please let us know if and when that number is agreed :)

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Send in the KSF! It is the only mechanism, that can swifly bring much needed law & order to northern Kosova! Enough with these" ultraradical Serbian extremists! "

EA

pre 11 godina

What's the big rush?
(Amer, 7 April 2013 12:47)

I tell you boy...Serbia needs the money, investments....or your think Russia will "look after your...."

Dave Goldstein

pre 11 godina

"EU's proposal cannot be implemented" Don't be a negativist. TRY IT! "implementation is impossible" no, nothing is impossible. Take a page from Napoleon, who said "impossible is not French". Serbs, who constantly brag about their qualities should paraphrase Napoleon by saying "impossible is not Serbian, we will sign that agreement".

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

Here is how the “negotiations are going:

Ashton: “Serbia must surrender Kosovo to NATO and allow George Soros (an associate of the much respected Rothschild family) to extract the enormous mineral wealth of that territory. In addition to this, and as a reward to our Albanian allies, Serbia must permit them to earn money by harvesting the organs of the remaining Kosovo Serbs.

Dačić: “These Proposals are far below the minimum that we could imagine in our worst dreams.”

Ashton: “OK, to hell with the Albanians, you can have your stinking Kosovo Serbs as long as you get them out of our territory ASAP.

Dačić: “That is a very generous offer that we cannot afford to turn down.”

Licanka

pre 11 godina

Man up a bit Dacic I would'nt worry about Serbia being declared 'unconstructive' your counter claim is that the deal was unpragmatic. The EU is an Economic union not a political one what happens in Kosovo should have no bearing on Serbia's road map to EU membership. First clarify the obstacles to EU and ensure that they are not linked to Kosovo ( use diplomacy to get EU members on side) before commencing negotiations.
There's no hurry let Thaci enjoy the benefits that 'independence' has bought him. We live in a global economy Serbia does not need the EU to survive what it needs are economic policies and a legal framework that allows business to invest and grow and you don't need the EU to do that!

ben

pre 11 godina

Dacic the negotiations failed due to the Serbian unprofessional and nonconstructive way of negotiating.

Again the real decision maker was in Belgrade and the actor in Brussels. Same story of Rambouyete, Wiena now in Brussels. For each point of negotiations Dacic was asking for pauses to consult with the decision maker in Belgrade. This is not professional and honest way from the state of Serbia. Kosova send the guy that can decide right there- Serbia was hiding.

Said that, I completely agree with the Serbian requests. Serbia is saying north of Kosova is mine. You don't want us to say it clearly well then in these negotiations I will demand such things that will again lead to the same outcome: north is Serbian. Thus only Serbian laws can be implemented, Serbian police, judiciary,etc. On the map you can keep it as part of Kosova but in the real life that is Serbia.

And I agree with it.

Thaci and the international community are dishonest with Serbia in this case. North is Serbian and Presheva valley is Albanian. Land swap and enough of this BS.

Both sides have much more important problems than forcing people on their land to accept something they don't want.

North Kosova has territorial continuity with Serbia and is of majority Serbian so her union with Serbia is not traumatic at all for anyone.

Presheva valley is overwhelmingly Albanian and it has territorial continuity with Kosova, so no trauma there neither.

It only needs bit of good will and sens of reality.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

He added that the dialogue should continue and that political and security stability should be preserved.

Preserve what security? You Serbs have until now, been stating that the situation in northern Kosova' is tense, with daily bombings & shootings, and Serbs are being targeted by unknown assailants! Now, overnight you in Serbia want to preserve a peace that until yesterday, you yourselves stated didn't exist! Until the KSF secures northern Kosova, it is impossible for political & security stability to exist in this part of Kosova's territory! The KSF, should receive the green light, so that she may re-establish law & order in this part of Kosova.. Additionally, it should be made clear to Serbia, that the international community will not allow Serbia to interfere, in sovereign Kosovas internal problems, period!!!

I think we are reaching a situation that we need to fight for some things that are still written in the Ahtisaari plan but that are not implemented in Kosovo,” he explained.

Need to fight for some things in the Ahtisaari plan that are not implemented?

Serbia outright rejected the Ahtisaari plan, you never signed on the dotted line so that it could be implemented! Who are you Serbs trying to fool here?

winston

pre 11 godina

or face the rule of law of RKS. (Ardi Asllani, 7 April 2013 11:45) What's is that, Ardi, RKS? If you are suggesting some kind of police action bY Pristina, don't count on it. The US will not allow them to do that. If there is any forced implementation of Pristina authority, it will be carried out by Eulex, and delicately. Haven't you had enough fighting, Ardi?

trizo

pre 11 godina

UNSCR1244 - Let noone forget about this.

Kosovo is Serbia's province. A now disputed territory but we will be allowed a number of police to reenter Kosovo.

No Albanian law will ever be implemented in the North of our southern province.

Soon enough our reach will strengthen

a New Day

pre 11 godina

It will get easier, once the EU declares the talks are at an end due to Serbia, pressure will be placed on the EU countries to have a unanimous stand, all countries in the world that has been holding off recognition until the talks ran its course will now start making decisions yes or no.
After 25-30 new recognitions, it will be impossible for Serbia to garner any support for Kosovo.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dačić has stated that Serbia could hardly accept Brussels' proposal on Kosovo because it would be impossible to be implement it.

Why is so hard to implement the agreement? One way or another, parallel structures will have to leave from Northern Kosova or face the rule of law of RKS.

EA

pre 11 godina

What a waste of time, money and space!

Now the Serbian prime minister is trying to be diplomatic....))) SERBIA IS NOT READY YET. Give it another 15-20 years....))))

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dačić has stated that Serbia could hardly accept Brussels' proposal on Kosovo because it would be impossible to be implement it.

Why is so hard to implement the agreement? One way or another, parallel structures will have to leave from Northern Kosova or face the rule of law of RKS.

winston

pre 11 godina

or face the rule of law of RKS. (Ardi Asllani, 7 April 2013 11:45) What's is that, Ardi, RKS? If you are suggesting some kind of police action bY Pristina, don't count on it. The US will not allow them to do that. If there is any forced implementation of Pristina authority, it will be carried out by Eulex, and delicately. Haven't you had enough fighting, Ardi?

trizo

pre 11 godina

UNSCR1244 - Let noone forget about this.

Kosovo is Serbia's province. A now disputed territory but we will be allowed a number of police to reenter Kosovo.

No Albanian law will ever be implemented in the North of our southern province.

Soon enough our reach will strengthen

EA

pre 11 godina

What a waste of time, money and space!

Now the Serbian prime minister is trying to be diplomatic....))) SERBIA IS NOT READY YET. Give it another 15-20 years....))))

a New Day

pre 11 godina

It will get easier, once the EU declares the talks are at an end due to Serbia, pressure will be placed on the EU countries to have a unanimous stand, all countries in the world that has been holding off recognition until the talks ran its course will now start making decisions yes or no.
After 25-30 new recognitions, it will be impossible for Serbia to garner any support for Kosovo.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

He added that the dialogue should continue and that political and security stability should be preserved.

Preserve what security? You Serbs have until now, been stating that the situation in northern Kosova' is tense, with daily bombings & shootings, and Serbs are being targeted by unknown assailants! Now, overnight you in Serbia want to preserve a peace that until yesterday, you yourselves stated didn't exist! Until the KSF secures northern Kosova, it is impossible for political & security stability to exist in this part of Kosova's territory! The KSF, should receive the green light, so that she may re-establish law & order in this part of Kosova.. Additionally, it should be made clear to Serbia, that the international community will not allow Serbia to interfere, in sovereign Kosovas internal problems, period!!!

I think we are reaching a situation that we need to fight for some things that are still written in the Ahtisaari plan but that are not implemented in Kosovo,” he explained.

Need to fight for some things in the Ahtisaari plan that are not implemented?

Serbia outright rejected the Ahtisaari plan, you never signed on the dotted line so that it could be implemented! Who are you Serbs trying to fool here?

Licanka

pre 11 godina

Man up a bit Dacic I would'nt worry about Serbia being declared 'unconstructive' your counter claim is that the deal was unpragmatic. The EU is an Economic union not a political one what happens in Kosovo should have no bearing on Serbia's road map to EU membership. First clarify the obstacles to EU and ensure that they are not linked to Kosovo ( use diplomacy to get EU members on side) before commencing negotiations.
There's no hurry let Thaci enjoy the benefits that 'independence' has bought him. We live in a global economy Serbia does not need the EU to survive what it needs are economic policies and a legal framework that allows business to invest and grow and you don't need the EU to do that!

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

Here is how the “negotiations are going:

Ashton: “Serbia must surrender Kosovo to NATO and allow George Soros (an associate of the much respected Rothschild family) to extract the enormous mineral wealth of that territory. In addition to this, and as a reward to our Albanian allies, Serbia must permit them to earn money by harvesting the organs of the remaining Kosovo Serbs.

Dačić: “These Proposals are far below the minimum that we could imagine in our worst dreams.”

Ashton: “OK, to hell with the Albanians, you can have your stinking Kosovo Serbs as long as you get them out of our territory ASAP.

Dačić: “That is a very generous offer that we cannot afford to turn down.”

ben

pre 11 godina

Dacic the negotiations failed due to the Serbian unprofessional and nonconstructive way of negotiating.

Again the real decision maker was in Belgrade and the actor in Brussels. Same story of Rambouyete, Wiena now in Brussels. For each point of negotiations Dacic was asking for pauses to consult with the decision maker in Belgrade. This is not professional and honest way from the state of Serbia. Kosova send the guy that can decide right there- Serbia was hiding.

Said that, I completely agree with the Serbian requests. Serbia is saying north of Kosova is mine. You don't want us to say it clearly well then in these negotiations I will demand such things that will again lead to the same outcome: north is Serbian. Thus only Serbian laws can be implemented, Serbian police, judiciary,etc. On the map you can keep it as part of Kosova but in the real life that is Serbia.

And I agree with it.

Thaci and the international community are dishonest with Serbia in this case. North is Serbian and Presheva valley is Albanian. Land swap and enough of this BS.

Both sides have much more important problems than forcing people on their land to accept something they don't want.

North Kosova has territorial continuity with Serbia and is of majority Serbian so her union with Serbia is not traumatic at all for anyone.

Presheva valley is overwhelmingly Albanian and it has territorial continuity with Kosova, so no trauma there neither.

It only needs bit of good will and sens of reality.

EA

pre 11 godina

What's the big rush?
(Amer, 7 April 2013 12:47)

I tell you boy...Serbia needs the money, investments....or your think Russia will "look after your...."

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Send in the KSF! It is the only mechanism, that can swifly bring much needed law & order to northern Kosova! Enough with these" ultraradical Serbian extremists! "

Dave Goldstein

pre 11 godina

"EU's proposal cannot be implemented" Don't be a negativist. TRY IT! "implementation is impossible" no, nothing is impossible. Take a page from Napoleon, who said "impossible is not French". Serbs, who constantly brag about their qualities should paraphrase Napoleon by saying "impossible is not Serbian, we will sign that agreement".

icj1

pre 11 godina

UNSCR1244 - Let noone forget about this.
Kosovo is Serbia's province. A now disputed territory but we will be allowed a number of police to reenter Kosovo.
(trizo, 7 April 2013 12:53)

Of course, even though not just "a number" but "an agreed number" (as the Arabic, Chinese, Englihs, French, Russian and Spanish versions of UNSCR 1244 state - not sure about the Serbian one).

Please let us know if and when that number is agreed :)

EJB

pre 11 godina

"EU's proposal cannot be implemented" Don't be a negativist. TRY IT! "implementation is impossible" no, nothing is impossible. Take a page from Napoleon, who said "impossible is not French". Serbs, who constantly brag about their qualities should paraphrase Napoleon by saying "impossible is not Serbian, we will sign that agreement".
(Dave Goldstein, 7 April 2013 17:17)

Do you know how Napoleon ended up? No thank you, keep your “good-natured” advice to yourself.

Mary

pre 11 godina

Of course it cannot be implemented. How to decide which hand you want to be amputated, left or right? That kind of decision is in front of Serbia.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Presheva valley is overwhelmingly Albanian and it has territorial continuity with Kosova, so no trauma there neither.

It only needs bit of good will and sens of reality.
(ben, 7 April 2013 13:00)

Presevo valley is not albanian majority. Bujanovac and Medvedja has a serbian majority by far and in Presevo its about 50 50.

Ratatuli

pre 11 godina

It cant be implemented when there is no proposal on table. There was just "non paper thing" which even can not be repeated because of its unknown content. There was nothing to choose so how to expect to implement something that doesnt exist. Serbia must refuse this kind od agreement because accepting such proposal collapses statehood and constitution of the state. Serbia must return to negotiations but to create awareness of the audience in positive way for her self. That is only possible if we return with negotiations under coverage of UN. State management has made ​​the right decision in rejecting this rude message from EU.

Granny-in-disguise

pre 11 godina

No yellow brick road for Serbia - not yet! Serbia's hardship is not yet going to end! There is no ultimate solution for this situation, I hope we can all understand that much - there's only a step out of this devastating and tiresome process. It's easy to sit, stare at your desktop and blabber about right things to do and talking some "big, macho, "I-could-do-it-rigt" politics!!! i think these guys (well, at least some them) deserve some credits for being in this freaking show! I am sure they're competencies and attitudes (not necessarily, publicly presented ones) are fit for this role!

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Please let us know if and when that number is agreed :)
(icj1, 7 April 2013 20:03)
And you forgot to add that the "agreed" number is restricted to doing very limited NON police duties.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dačić has stated that Serbia could hardly accept Brussels' proposal on Kosovo because it would be impossible to be implement it.

Why is so hard to implement the agreement? One way or another, parallel structures will have to leave from Northern Kosova or face the rule of law of RKS.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

He added that the dialogue should continue and that political and security stability should be preserved.

Preserve what security? You Serbs have until now, been stating that the situation in northern Kosova' is tense, with daily bombings & shootings, and Serbs are being targeted by unknown assailants! Now, overnight you in Serbia want to preserve a peace that until yesterday, you yourselves stated didn't exist! Until the KSF secures northern Kosova, it is impossible for political & security stability to exist in this part of Kosova's territory! The KSF, should receive the green light, so that she may re-establish law & order in this part of Kosova.. Additionally, it should be made clear to Serbia, that the international community will not allow Serbia to interfere, in sovereign Kosovas internal problems, period!!!

I think we are reaching a situation that we need to fight for some things that are still written in the Ahtisaari plan but that are not implemented in Kosovo,” he explained.

Need to fight for some things in the Ahtisaari plan that are not implemented?

Serbia outright rejected the Ahtisaari plan, you never signed on the dotted line so that it could be implemented! Who are you Serbs trying to fool here?

EA

pre 11 godina

What a waste of time, money and space!

Now the Serbian prime minister is trying to be diplomatic....))) SERBIA IS NOT READY YET. Give it another 15-20 years....))))

a New Day

pre 11 godina

It will get easier, once the EU declares the talks are at an end due to Serbia, pressure will be placed on the EU countries to have a unanimous stand, all countries in the world that has been holding off recognition until the talks ran its course will now start making decisions yes or no.
After 25-30 new recognitions, it will be impossible for Serbia to garner any support for Kosovo.

trizo

pre 11 godina

UNSCR1244 - Let noone forget about this.

Kosovo is Serbia's province. A now disputed territory but we will be allowed a number of police to reenter Kosovo.

No Albanian law will ever be implemented in the North of our southern province.

Soon enough our reach will strengthen

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

Here is how the “negotiations are going:

Ashton: “Serbia must surrender Kosovo to NATO and allow George Soros (an associate of the much respected Rothschild family) to extract the enormous mineral wealth of that territory. In addition to this, and as a reward to our Albanian allies, Serbia must permit them to earn money by harvesting the organs of the remaining Kosovo Serbs.

Dačić: “These Proposals are far below the minimum that we could imagine in our worst dreams.”

Ashton: “OK, to hell with the Albanians, you can have your stinking Kosovo Serbs as long as you get them out of our territory ASAP.

Dačić: “That is a very generous offer that we cannot afford to turn down.”

ben

pre 11 godina

Dacic the negotiations failed due to the Serbian unprofessional and nonconstructive way of negotiating.

Again the real decision maker was in Belgrade and the actor in Brussels. Same story of Rambouyete, Wiena now in Brussels. For each point of negotiations Dacic was asking for pauses to consult with the decision maker in Belgrade. This is not professional and honest way from the state of Serbia. Kosova send the guy that can decide right there- Serbia was hiding.

Said that, I completely agree with the Serbian requests. Serbia is saying north of Kosova is mine. You don't want us to say it clearly well then in these negotiations I will demand such things that will again lead to the same outcome: north is Serbian. Thus only Serbian laws can be implemented, Serbian police, judiciary,etc. On the map you can keep it as part of Kosova but in the real life that is Serbia.

And I agree with it.

Thaci and the international community are dishonest with Serbia in this case. North is Serbian and Presheva valley is Albanian. Land swap and enough of this BS.

Both sides have much more important problems than forcing people on their land to accept something they don't want.

North Kosova has territorial continuity with Serbia and is of majority Serbian so her union with Serbia is not traumatic at all for anyone.

Presheva valley is overwhelmingly Albanian and it has territorial continuity with Kosova, so no trauma there neither.

It only needs bit of good will and sens of reality.

winston

pre 11 godina

or face the rule of law of RKS. (Ardi Asllani, 7 April 2013 11:45) What's is that, Ardi, RKS? If you are suggesting some kind of police action bY Pristina, don't count on it. The US will not allow them to do that. If there is any forced implementation of Pristina authority, it will be carried out by Eulex, and delicately. Haven't you had enough fighting, Ardi?

Licanka

pre 11 godina

Man up a bit Dacic I would'nt worry about Serbia being declared 'unconstructive' your counter claim is that the deal was unpragmatic. The EU is an Economic union not a political one what happens in Kosovo should have no bearing on Serbia's road map to EU membership. First clarify the obstacles to EU and ensure that they are not linked to Kosovo ( use diplomacy to get EU members on side) before commencing negotiations.
There's no hurry let Thaci enjoy the benefits that 'independence' has bought him. We live in a global economy Serbia does not need the EU to survive what it needs are economic policies and a legal framework that allows business to invest and grow and you don't need the EU to do that!

Dave Goldstein

pre 11 godina

"EU's proposal cannot be implemented" Don't be a negativist. TRY IT! "implementation is impossible" no, nothing is impossible. Take a page from Napoleon, who said "impossible is not French". Serbs, who constantly brag about their qualities should paraphrase Napoleon by saying "impossible is not Serbian, we will sign that agreement".

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Send in the KSF! It is the only mechanism, that can swifly bring much needed law & order to northern Kosova! Enough with these" ultraradical Serbian extremists! "

EA

pre 11 godina

What's the big rush?
(Amer, 7 April 2013 12:47)

I tell you boy...Serbia needs the money, investments....or your think Russia will "look after your...."

icj1

pre 11 godina

UNSCR1244 - Let noone forget about this.
Kosovo is Serbia's province. A now disputed territory but we will be allowed a number of police to reenter Kosovo.
(trizo, 7 April 2013 12:53)

Of course, even though not just "a number" but "an agreed number" (as the Arabic, Chinese, Englihs, French, Russian and Spanish versions of UNSCR 1244 state - not sure about the Serbian one).

Please let us know if and when that number is agreed :)

Granny-in-disguise

pre 11 godina

No yellow brick road for Serbia - not yet! Serbia's hardship is not yet going to end! There is no ultimate solution for this situation, I hope we can all understand that much - there's only a step out of this devastating and tiresome process. It's easy to sit, stare at your desktop and blabber about right things to do and talking some "big, macho, "I-could-do-it-rigt" politics!!! i think these guys (well, at least some them) deserve some credits for being in this freaking show! I am sure they're competencies and attitudes (not necessarily, publicly presented ones) are fit for this role!

EJB

pre 11 godina

"EU's proposal cannot be implemented" Don't be a negativist. TRY IT! "implementation is impossible" no, nothing is impossible. Take a page from Napoleon, who said "impossible is not French". Serbs, who constantly brag about their qualities should paraphrase Napoleon by saying "impossible is not Serbian, we will sign that agreement".
(Dave Goldstein, 7 April 2013 17:17)

Do you know how Napoleon ended up? No thank you, keep your “good-natured” advice to yourself.

Ratatuli

pre 11 godina

It cant be implemented when there is no proposal on table. There was just "non paper thing" which even can not be repeated because of its unknown content. There was nothing to choose so how to expect to implement something that doesnt exist. Serbia must refuse this kind od agreement because accepting such proposal collapses statehood and constitution of the state. Serbia must return to negotiations but to create awareness of the audience in positive way for her self. That is only possible if we return with negotiations under coverage of UN. State management has made ​​the right decision in rejecting this rude message from EU.

Mary

pre 11 godina

Of course it cannot be implemented. How to decide which hand you want to be amputated, left or right? That kind of decision is in front of Serbia.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Please let us know if and when that number is agreed :)
(icj1, 7 April 2013 20:03)
And you forgot to add that the "agreed" number is restricted to doing very limited NON police duties.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Presheva valley is overwhelmingly Albanian and it has territorial continuity with Kosova, so no trauma there neither.

It only needs bit of good will and sens of reality.
(ben, 7 April 2013 13:00)

Presevo valley is not albanian majority. Bujanovac and Medvedja has a serbian majority by far and in Presevo its about 50 50.