Ruling coalition agrees EU’s offer is “unacceptable”

“We need to make sure that this historic ‘no’ does not turn into a historic ‘yes’ in three or four years but with lost three or four years and a solution that is no better than this one,”

- i.e. We are looking for a way around the false dead-end that the EU say talks are over & so is EU asceccion. They maybe within certain circles of the EU though that does not mean that we have to accept this indecent proposal that was presented as a fait accompli.

As the saying goes "beggars can't be choosy" but if you think otherwise just reject the plan. NOBADY is forcing you to accept anything.

(Dave Goldstein, 6 April 2013 12:52)

That’s what you think. Serbia has plenty of experience with generous offers. They give us options to choose from, but if we don’t choos the one they want us to, boom, and bombs fall on Belgrade. So much for freedom of choice.

Obviously it will be better for everyone if both parties agree, and this chapter is over. Regardless of what your stand is on what's right or wrong in this process, one fact doesn't change. Serbia will probably be in less favorable position to renegotiate down the road. It will be weaker economically, more isolated politically and will have less and less influence on Kosovo. Hence it will have to give up more. On the other hand Kosovo government will be given the benefit of the doubt, it will be recognized by more countries, it will be helped to integrate in European Institutions ( visa vie removal of visas, observer status in EU, allowing the state of Albania citizenship being applied to Kosovars), and will strengthen the relations with Albania. Hence it will be in the position to concede less. Albanians know this, that's why they are not giving up an inch.

Unacceptable, inappropriate, indecent and blackmailing. That is the definition of the EU offer.

Sandy, if you reject the offer NOBODY will bomb you. Actually in case of acceptance they would have bombed you with billions of badly needed euros. Anyway the EU will have more than few places to spend the money saved in Serbia.

Thaçi is waiting for your answer. Whatever it will be, he will take over the north Mitrovica, is no doubt about it. Those who took over the rest of Kosovo i can guarantee you that is piece of vake to take over north. For some reason knin keeps coming up in my mind. Maybee is the best possible option left at te moment

"beggars can't be choosy"
The serbs are no beggars at all.
A big no will also harm the albanians and everybody should know this.
They will continous to rot in their fals coubtry and eventually use violence again.
So say no now !
The whole world is not part of the EU so where is the problem ?

That’s what you think. Serbia has plenty of experience with generous offers. They give us options to choose from, but if we don’t choos the one they want us to, boom, and bombs fall on Belgrade. So much for freedom of choice.
(Sandy, 6 April 2013 15:48)

Oh this is new. "If you don't join the EU, you will get bombed".

Ahaaaa, how could we not see that...? *eyeroll*

That’s what you think. Serbia has plenty of experience with generous offers. They give us options to choose from, but if we don’t choos the one they want us to, boom, and bombs fall on Belgrade. So much for freedom of choice.
(Sandy, 6 April 2013 15:48)

Oh, come on... If you were to pay more attention to the brillian preachings of the CE of the B92 forums sj you'd understand by now that the EU and US has collapsed and they and NATO are all p... and wind not, to mention, that Russia will promptly protect Serbia, according to the true Serb patriots in these forums. So, Belgrade does have a freedom of choice...

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

@ dardania us

just have a try, the people in the nonoccupied part of the serbian province are waiting ...

they are waiting 14 years now for action to follow internettalibtalk ...

but if you know knin, at least you know your future ...

Sandy, if you reject the offer NOBODY will bomb you. Actually in case of acceptance they would have bombed you with billions of badly needed euros. Anyway the EU will have more than few places to spend the money saved in Serbia.
(Dave Goldstein, 6 April 2013 17:20

Yeah we can all see how economically prosper the EU is especially Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Italy and France so Im sure they only wait to spend billions of euros on Serbia. Even if Serbia agrees it wont get a dime from EU just like it didnt after the NATO bombings, nothing, 0. The EU is already falling apart as we can see even the UK wants out, nobody wants to be a part of the 4 reich under the new fuhrer Angela Merkel.

"The whole world is not part of the EU so where is the problem ?"

Very true, but exactly how do you envision Serbia picking up and moving to some better location?

To quote H.Wilson ' A week is a long time in politics ' I say do what is right and stick to your principles. A bad deal is a bad deal regardless of the time frame. Serbia should stop linking EU economic integration with the political problems posed by Thaci. Any hint of linking EU integration and Kosovo should result in Serbia walking away from the negotiations. The EU is not a prize worth giving up territory for, besides, Serbia will be joining the EU buffet well after all the food has been eaten. However, Serbia should continue with the reforms and measures that prepare it for EU membership largely because many of those reforms will prepare it for trade and competition in Europe and the world. Also instead of whinging to the nation start preparing plan B the EU is practically a defucnt institution and Serbia is acting as though its the only option available.

".....this historic "no".....doesn't turn into a historic "yes"....in three four years....Fair comment!

"“The plan is unacceptable and there are no differences regarding that among us. If we accepted the bad plan, it would only be because alternatives of the rejection of the bad plan were even worse and less acceptable,” Ljajić told Beta news agency."

Ha, ha... this is called preparing the populace for bad news (assuming the populace cares about it)

We need to make sure that this historic ‘no’ does not turn into a historic ‘yes’ in three or four years but with lost three or four years and a solution that is no better than this one,” he added.

The deputy prime minister said that Serbia needed to “stay in the game” in order to “improve the position of the Serb community in Kosovo and enable all forms of protection and increase in their individual and collective rights”.

What can we all count on? We can count on Serbia to do precisely everything that they shouldn't. How else can the country in 20 years start multiple wars and lose them all? How else can they get their countries infrastructure bombed into the stone age by the alliance that kept Europe safe during the cold war? How else did they embark on rape parties and genocide in the wars? How did they lose an obscene amount of their territory? If this is a Serbian "strategy" for bettering their country then i would hate to see Serbia without a strategy. Serbia is one of the most self abusive countries that i have ever seen. They love misery and pain and defeat. Why else would they always choose the wrong path?

Some wise words from this man. If you say 'no' now you need to mean it and not cave in to these same demands in 2016/17 or whenever. This will simply mean 3/4 lost years. Obviously the coalition has the option of agreeing to the plan. Without having seen it there is little point passing comment on its contents but clearly they are not to the liking of the current Serbian government and in all likelihood the same goes for the vast majority of the public. To me this is more about not being pushed around by Brussels than it is the specific issue of Kosovo although I appreciate that for Serbs the latter is more important.

"Unacceptable, inappropriate, indecent and blackmailing. That is the definition of the EU offer.
(Angello, 6 April 2013 17:03) "

I can see your point. Unfortunately, the next one will be only worse. As Dacic just said, it's like being in quicksand - the least little movement and you sink even deeper.

"unacceptable, inappropriate, indecent" Angello, I can already see that after a while when Italy's economy will reach bankruptcy like conditions and Brussels will set hard conditions before any help you will say the same.

Daniel,

O.K, now I see how Serbs think! You thought that by getting bombed by NATO, Serbia would be showered with money of Western nations. I don't know where you got that ridiculous idea but, that explains a lot about Serbian logic. How did you come to that conclusion; after having lost several wars to Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, no one rewarded Serbia with money for loosing. If you recall, after refusing to sign the Rambouillet Agreement Serbia was not rewarded, to the contrary, in the end Serbia lost much more than she would have had she signed from the start. That said, good luck in your future endeavors.
(The Count of Kosova, 7 April 2013 03:39)

Serbia didnt fight any wars in croatia nor bosnia. Vrs fought in Bosnia and JNA in croatia and in Slovenia wasnt even a war. And by the way Vrs won the war in bosnia dont you remember that half of bosnia is serbian?And the NATO bombings didnt have anything to do with the civil wars in ex yu. Yeah of course you as an albanian would have liked Serbia to sign the Rambouillet and recognize Kosovo independent, something that will never happen. You occupie a part of anohter countrys territory and then you want them to recognize it, albanian logic at its best I must admit.

I can see your point. Unfortunately, the next one will be only worse. As Dacic just said, it's like being in quicksand - the least little movement and you sink even deeper.
(Ameer, 6 April 2013 20:10)
=================================
Who cares what the next offer will be. Just don't walk into the quicksand and you won't have to worry about any movements.

Who says Serbia has to accept ANY offer from EU? Who says Serbia will be lost without EU?

Very true, but exactly how do you envision Serbia picking up and moving to some better location?
(Amer, 6 April 2013 20:04)
==========================
What a ridiculous statement.
China is not close to the US and yet it keeps it alive. You don't have to be in Europe to trade with Europe and you don't have to leave Europe to trade with the rest of the world.
What is your point exactly?
Serbia will always stay in Europe but it doesn't have to have a noose around her neck.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 6 April 2013 18:28)

Seeing as you explain every time what CE means, why don't you just write 'Chief Economist' in the first place?
___________________________________________________________________

So anyway, nothing will change if we don't accept the ridiculous EU 'offer' right now. We continue on the path of the EU & continue making reforms that are necessary to eventually join. No big deal.

The EU have no strategic medium to long term plan that is certain & is in fact filled with uncertainty and if anyone in the EU says otherwise then they are clearly fools themselves.

You cannot say with any degree of certainty the EU's future in the short/medium/long term because you cannot predict the future especially when you have no historical evidence to reference. This situation is unprecedented and all these threats & warnings from the EU are without substance.

Reject the EU's offer and keep our sovereignty as the number 1 priority of Serbia. Even if we did accept their offer we still would be 10 years to join the EU.

Sandy, if you reject the offer NOBODY will bomb you. Actually in case of acceptance they would have bombed you with billions of badly needed euros. Anyway the EU will have more than few places to spend the money saved in Serbia.
(Dave Goldstein, 6 April 2013 17:20

Yeah we can all see how economically prosper the EU is especially Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Italy and France so Im sure they only wait to spend billions of euros on Serbia. Even if Serbia agrees it wont get a dime from EU just like it didnt after the NATO bombings, nothing, 0. The EU is already falling apart as we can see even the UK wants out, nobody wants to be a part of the 4 reich under the new fuhrer Angela Merkel.
(Daniel, 6 April 2013 19:39)

Daniel,

O.K, now I see how Serbs think! You thought that by getting bombed by NATO, Serbia would be showered with money of Western nations. I don't know where you got that ridiculous idea but, that explains a lot about Serbian logic. How did you come to that conclusion; after having lost several wars to Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, no one rewarded Serbia with money for loosing. If you recall, after refusing to sign the Rambouillet Agreement Serbia was not rewarded, to the contrary, in the end Serbia lost much more than she would have had she signed from the start. That said, good luck in your future endeavors.

So anyway, nothing will change if we don't accept the ridiculous EU 'offer' right now. We continue on the path of the EU & continue making reforms that are necessary to eventually join. No big deal.

The EU have no strategic medium to long term plan that is certain & is in fact filled with uncertainty and if anyone in the EU says otherwise then they are clearly fools themselves.

You cannot say with any degree of certainty the EU's future in the short/medium/long term because you cannot predict the future especially when you have no historical evidence to reference. This situation is unprecedented and all these threats & warnings from the EU are without substance.

Reject the EU's offer and keep our sovereignty as the number 1 priority of Serbia. Even if we did accept their offer we still would be 10 years to join the EU.
(trizo, 7 April 2013 04:03)

Whatever the reason and regardless of whether it is good or bad for Serbia's citizens, I'm sure Kosovo agrees with your conclusion that Serbia should not become an EU member and cause trouble for Kosovo. So you don't have to provide long analysis or reasoning for that - Kosovo is your ally for achieving the goal of Serbia not joining the EU.

Somehow I get the feeling that we could well be having elections soon.

My two cents.

Thaçi is waiting for your answer. Whatever it will be, he will take over the north Mitrovica, is no doubt about it. Those who took over the rest of Kosovo i can guarantee you that is piece of vake to take over north. For some reason knin keeps coming up in my mind. Maybee is the best possible option left at te moment
(Dardania-USAlbania, 6 April 2013 18:41)

That would be your undoing. Who would you blame for war then?

This statement of Mr.Ljajic absolutly describes the position that we are set into. We got two things to choose one is bad and other is worst, so decision is hard to make. It is not possible to satisfy all political subjects and also it will be very hard to make everyone feel happy about eventual solution.If we choose EU there is a part of population that is not for that kind of agreement, or if we choose leaving KiM to Argonauts there is a even bigger part od nation that does criticize that. First solution does take us into possible open conforontation with Argonauts and EU because they will try to take it by force and west allies will give them wind in a back for such an agressive solution, and I dont find that good. But second deal, also takes us in front of conforntation between us in Serbia, since as I said there is a lot of us that does not wont to let KiM go to the enemy hands. Western forces played this good...they left us in checkmate either thing we choose we loose...but still we have to think long term, and decide how to lower are losses best way.

Let me get this straight: The EU is willing to promise to invest in Serbia (Kosovo???!!!) if we reach an agreement? Yeah, right - if we give in, there's billions of euros flowing over to Serbia (Kosovo??!!). Regardless of what anyone thinks, Serbia's say on this matter is
essential.
Too bad, previous leadership was not aware (or didn't want to exhibit the power to do so) of this, otherwise they wouldn't rule out UN's competencies and make transition to EU jurisdiction. Serbia has to accept the consequences of it's long and devastating history of bad political moves, but it's up to the actual Government to recreate the new image and new negotiating position...

Thaçi is waiting for your answer. Whatever it will be, he will take over the north Mitrovica, is no doubt about it. Those who took over the rest of Kosovo i can guarantee you that is piece of vake to take over north. For some reason knin keeps coming up in my mind. Maybee is the best possible option left at te moment

As the saying goes "beggars can't be choosy" but if you think otherwise just reject the plan. NOBADY is forcing you to accept anything.

We need to make sure that this historic ‘no’ does not turn into a historic ‘yes’ in three or four years but with lost three or four years and a solution that is no better than this one,” he added.

The deputy prime minister said that Serbia needed to “stay in the game” in order to “improve the position of the Serb community in Kosovo and enable all forms of protection and increase in their individual and collective rights”.

What can we all count on? We can count on Serbia to do precisely everything that they shouldn't. How else can the country in 20 years start multiple wars and lose them all? How else can they get their countries infrastructure bombed into the stone age by the alliance that kept Europe safe during the cold war? How else did they embark on rape parties and genocide in the wars? How did they lose an obscene amount of their territory? If this is a Serbian "strategy" for bettering their country then i would hate to see Serbia without a strategy. Serbia is one of the most self abusive countries that i have ever seen. They love misery and pain and defeat. Why else would they always choose the wrong path?

“We need to make sure that this historic ‘no’ does not turn into a historic ‘yes’ in three or four years but with lost three or four years and a solution that is no better than this one,”

- i.e. We are looking for a way around the false dead-end that the EU say talks are over & so is EU asceccion. They maybe within certain circles of the EU though that does not mean that we have to accept this indecent proposal that was presented as a fait accompli.

(Dave Goldstein, 6 April 2013 12:52)

That’s what you think. Serbia has plenty of experience with generous offers. They give us options to choose from, but if we don’t choos the one they want us to, boom, and bombs fall on Belgrade. So much for freedom of choice.

"“The plan is unacceptable and there are no differences regarding that among us. If we accepted the bad plan, it would only be because alternatives of the rejection of the bad plan were even worse and less acceptable,” Ljajić told Beta news agency."

Ha, ha... this is called preparing the populace for bad news (assuming the populace cares about it)

That’s what you think. Serbia has plenty of experience with generous offers. They give us options to choose from, but if we don’t choos the one they want us to, boom, and bombs fall on Belgrade. So much for freedom of choice.
(Sandy, 6 April 2013 15:48)

Oh, come on... If you were to pay more attention to the brillian preachings of the CE of the B92 forums sj you'd understand by now that the EU and US has collapsed and they and NATO are all p... and wind not, to mention, that Russia will promptly protect Serbia, according to the true Serb patriots in these forums. So, Belgrade does have a freedom of choice...

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Obviously it will be better for everyone if both parties agree, and this chapter is over. Regardless of what your stand is on what's right or wrong in this process, one fact doesn't change. Serbia will probably be in less favorable position to renegotiate down the road. It will be weaker economically, more isolated politically and will have less and less influence on Kosovo. Hence it will have to give up more. On the other hand Kosovo government will be given the benefit of the doubt, it will be recognized by more countries, it will be helped to integrate in European Institutions ( visa vie removal of visas, observer status in EU, allowing the state of Albania citizenship being applied to Kosovars), and will strengthen the relations with Albania. Hence it will be in the position to concede less. Albanians know this, that's why they are not giving up an inch.

Sandy, if you reject the offer NOBODY will bomb you. Actually in case of acceptance they would have bombed you with billions of badly needed euros. Anyway the EU will have more than few places to spend the money saved in Serbia.

"beggars can't be choosy"
The serbs are no beggars at all.
A big no will also harm the albanians and everybody should know this.
They will continous to rot in their fals coubtry and eventually use violence again.
So say no now !
The whole world is not part of the EU so where is the problem ?

That’s what you think. Serbia has plenty of experience with generous offers. They give us options to choose from, but if we don’t choos the one they want us to, boom, and bombs fall on Belgrade. So much for freedom of choice.
(Sandy, 6 April 2013 15:48)

Oh this is new. "If you don't join the EU, you will get bombed".

Ahaaaa, how could we not see that...? *eyeroll*

Unacceptable, inappropriate, indecent and blackmailing. That is the definition of the EU offer.

"The whole world is not part of the EU so where is the problem ?"

Very true, but exactly how do you envision Serbia picking up and moving to some better location?

"Unacceptable, inappropriate, indecent and blackmailing. That is the definition of the EU offer.
(Angello, 6 April 2013 17:03) "

I can see your point. Unfortunately, the next one will be only worse. As Dacic just said, it's like being in quicksand - the least little movement and you sink even deeper.

To quote H.Wilson ' A week is a long time in politics ' I say do what is right and stick to your principles. A bad deal is a bad deal regardless of the time frame. Serbia should stop linking EU economic integration with the political problems posed by Thaci. Any hint of linking EU integration and Kosovo should result in Serbia walking away from the negotiations. The EU is not a prize worth giving up territory for, besides, Serbia will be joining the EU buffet well after all the food has been eaten. However, Serbia should continue with the reforms and measures that prepare it for EU membership largely because many of those reforms will prepare it for trade and competition in Europe and the world. Also instead of whinging to the nation start preparing plan B the EU is practically a defucnt institution and Serbia is acting as though its the only option available.

".....this historic "no".....doesn't turn into a historic "yes"....in three four years....Fair comment!

Some wise words from this man. If you say 'no' now you need to mean it and not cave in to these same demands in 2016/17 or whenever. This will simply mean 3/4 lost years. Obviously the coalition has the option of agreeing to the plan. Without having seen it there is little point passing comment on its contents but clearly they are not to the liking of the current Serbian government and in all likelihood the same goes for the vast majority of the public. To me this is more about not being pushed around by Brussels than it is the specific issue of Kosovo although I appreciate that for Serbs the latter is more important.

@ dardania us

just have a try, the people in the nonoccupied part of the serbian province are waiting ...

they are waiting 14 years now for action to follow internettalibtalk ...

but if you know knin, at least you know your future ...

Sandy, if you reject the offer NOBODY will bomb you. Actually in case of acceptance they would have bombed you with billions of badly needed euros. Anyway the EU will have more than few places to spend the money saved in Serbia.
(Dave Goldstein, 6 April 2013 17:20

Yeah we can all see how economically prosper the EU is especially Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Italy and France so Im sure they only wait to spend billions of euros on Serbia. Even if Serbia agrees it wont get a dime from EU just like it didnt after the NATO bombings, nothing, 0. The EU is already falling apart as we can see even the UK wants out, nobody wants to be a part of the 4 reich under the new fuhrer Angela Merkel.
(Daniel, 6 April 2013 19:39)

Daniel,

O.K, now I see how Serbs think! You thought that by getting bombed by NATO, Serbia would be showered with money of Western nations. I don't know where you got that ridiculous idea but, that explains a lot about Serbian logic. How did you come to that conclusion; after having lost several wars to Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, no one rewarded Serbia with money for loosing. If you recall, after refusing to sign the Rambouillet Agreement Serbia was not rewarded, to the contrary, in the end Serbia lost much more than she would have had she signed from the start. That said, good luck in your future endeavors.

Sandy, if you reject the offer NOBODY will bomb you. Actually in case of acceptance they would have bombed you with billions of badly needed euros. Anyway the EU will have more than few places to spend the money saved in Serbia.
(Dave Goldstein, 6 April 2013 17:20

Yeah we can all see how economically prosper the EU is especially Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Italy and France so Im sure they only wait to spend billions of euros on Serbia. Even if Serbia agrees it wont get a dime from EU just like it didnt after the NATO bombings, nothing, 0. The EU is already falling apart as we can see even the UK wants out, nobody wants to be a part of the 4 reich under the new fuhrer Angela Merkel.

I can see your point. Unfortunately, the next one will be only worse. As Dacic just said, it's like being in quicksand - the least little movement and you sink even deeper.
(Ameer, 6 April 2013 20:10)
=================================
Who cares what the next offer will be. Just don't walk into the quicksand and you won't have to worry about any movements.

Who says Serbia has to accept ANY offer from EU? Who says Serbia will be lost without EU?

Very true, but exactly how do you envision Serbia picking up and moving to some better location?
(Amer, 6 April 2013 20:04)
==========================
What a ridiculous statement.
China is not close to the US and yet it keeps it alive. You don't have to be in Europe to trade with Europe and you don't have to leave Europe to trade with the rest of the world.
What is your point exactly?
Serbia will always stay in Europe but it doesn't have to have a noose around her neck.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 6 April 2013 18:28)

Seeing as you explain every time what CE means, why don't you just write 'Chief Economist' in the first place?
___________________________________________________________________

So anyway, nothing will change if we don't accept the ridiculous EU 'offer' right now. We continue on the path of the EU & continue making reforms that are necessary to eventually join. No big deal.

The EU have no strategic medium to long term plan that is certain & is in fact filled with uncertainty and if anyone in the EU says otherwise then they are clearly fools themselves.

You cannot say with any degree of certainty the EU's future in the short/medium/long term because you cannot predict the future especially when you have no historical evidence to reference. This situation is unprecedented and all these threats & warnings from the EU are without substance.

Reject the EU's offer and keep our sovereignty as the number 1 priority of Serbia. Even if we did accept their offer we still would be 10 years to join the EU.

"unacceptable, inappropriate, indecent" Angello, I can already see that after a while when Italy's economy will reach bankruptcy like conditions and Brussels will set hard conditions before any help you will say the same.

Daniel,

O.K, now I see how Serbs think! You thought that by getting bombed by NATO, Serbia would be showered with money of Western nations. I don't know where you got that ridiculous idea but, that explains a lot about Serbian logic. How did you come to that conclusion; after having lost several wars to Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, no one rewarded Serbia with money for loosing. If you recall, after refusing to sign the Rambouillet Agreement Serbia was not rewarded, to the contrary, in the end Serbia lost much more than she would have had she signed from the start. That said, good luck in your future endeavors.
(The Count of Kosova, 7 April 2013 03:39)

Serbia didnt fight any wars in croatia nor bosnia. Vrs fought in Bosnia and JNA in croatia and in Slovenia wasnt even a war. And by the way Vrs won the war in bosnia dont you remember that half of bosnia is serbian?And the NATO bombings didnt have anything to do with the civil wars in ex yu. Yeah of course you as an albanian would have liked Serbia to sign the Rambouillet and recognize Kosovo independent, something that will never happen. You occupie a part of anohter countrys territory and then you want them to recognize it, albanian logic at its best I must admit.

This statement of Mr.Ljajic absolutly describes the position that we are set into. We got two things to choose one is bad and other is worst, so decision is hard to make. It is not possible to satisfy all political subjects and also it will be very hard to make everyone feel happy about eventual solution.If we choose EU there is a part of population that is not for that kind of agreement, or if we choose leaving KiM to Argonauts there is a even bigger part od nation that does criticize that. First solution does take us into possible open conforontation with Argonauts and EU because they will try to take it by force and west allies will give them wind in a back for such an agressive solution, and I dont find that good. But second deal, also takes us in front of conforntation between us in Serbia, since as I said there is a lot of us that does not wont to let KiM go to the enemy hands. Western forces played this good...they left us in checkmate either thing we choose we loose...but still we have to think long term, and decide how to lower are losses best way.

Somehow I get the feeling that we could well be having elections soon.

My two cents.

Thaçi is waiting for your answer. Whatever it will be, he will take over the north Mitrovica, is no doubt about it. Those who took over the rest of Kosovo i can guarantee you that is piece of vake to take over north. For some reason knin keeps coming up in my mind. Maybee is the best possible option left at te moment
(Dardania-USAlbania, 6 April 2013 18:41)

That would be your undoing. Who would you blame for war then?

So anyway, nothing will change if we don't accept the ridiculous EU 'offer' right now. We continue on the path of the EU & continue making reforms that are necessary to eventually join. No big deal.

The EU have no strategic medium to long term plan that is certain & is in fact filled with uncertainty and if anyone in the EU says otherwise then they are clearly fools themselves.

You cannot say with any degree of certainty the EU's future in the short/medium/long term because you cannot predict the future especially when you have no historical evidence to reference. This situation is unprecedented and all these threats & warnings from the EU are without substance.

Reject the EU's offer and keep our sovereignty as the number 1 priority of Serbia. Even if we did accept their offer we still would be 10 years to join the EU.
(trizo, 7 April 2013 04:03)

Whatever the reason and regardless of whether it is good or bad for Serbia's citizens, I'm sure Kosovo agrees with your conclusion that Serbia should not become an EU member and cause trouble for Kosovo. So you don't have to provide long analysis or reasoning for that - Kosovo is your ally for achieving the goal of Serbia not joining the EU.

Let me get this straight: The EU is willing to promise to invest in Serbia (Kosovo???!!!) if we reach an agreement? Yeah, right - if we give in, there's billions of euros flowing over to Serbia (Kosovo??!!). Regardless of what anyone thinks, Serbia's say on this matter is
essential.
Too bad, previous leadership was not aware (or didn't want to exhibit the power to do so) of this, otherwise they wouldn't rule out UN's competencies and make transition to EU jurisdiction. Serbia has to accept the consequences of it's long and devastating history of bad political moves, but it's up to the actual Government to recreate the new image and new negotiating position...