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Friday, 05.04.2013.

16:27

Senior Serbian officials confer on Kosovo

President Tomislav Nikolić, First Deputy PM Aleksandar Vučić and Prime Minister Ivica Dačić discussed solutions for Kosovo for several hours on Friday.

Izvor: B92

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icj1

pre 11 godina

"Walk away from those talks", and wait for the opportunity created by God
(Arn.Sweden., 6 April 2013 07:23)

Probably Mr. Gravrilovic can help... He should start parallel talks with God to convince God to create that opportunity as soon as possible for God's choosen people; the Serbs.

prop at its best

pre 11 godina

Waiter, more propaganda please.
(J, 6 April 2013 02:56)
But it works as you can see. Ivan started it, Arn Sweden has bought it,by next week you will see at least 15 references here from ultranationalists that Thaci has threatened war.

I disagree

pre 11 godina

No matter what they decide it is going to be very hard for Serbia. This is a no-win situation for both Kosovo and Serbia.
(Lillyan, 5 April 2013 22:23)
I think you are wrong. If Serbia makes the break with Kosovo it will be free to focus on advancing Serbia and making a life for Serbs. It will open the door to investments, and grants. If Serbia does not then they will at least temporarily beomce isolated and investments and money will be remarkably reduced, it will cause internal conflicts and chaos.
It will also cause the fence riders internationally to climb off the fence and most likely more recognitions for Kosovo in the near future.

On the other hand, an agreement means for Kosovo, a door to the future investments, a green light toward Europe but with an internal conflict escalated at least initially. But that conflict will not have external support.
If the agreement is rejected, the EU/US is going to see a need to separate Kosovo and Serbia completely. Energy wasted on Serbia over the last few years to get it to make a voluntary move will now be focused on Kosovo. Because the way forward will be to make Kosovo as strong as possible. You will probably see a surge of agreements between Kosovo and other countries to highlight that the road to Kosovo does not flow through Serbia.
I would also expect an initial increase in Kfor as a signal to Serbia that the mandate to protect Kosovo is still in force and is taken seriously.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

As the commentator Ivan belowe has hinted at -

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/hashim-thaci-threatens-serbia-with-war/

- there will be a War and Albania will come for Kosovo.

Serbia should as another talkbacker suggests -
"Walk away from those talks",
and wait for the opportunity created by God,
when the scores will be settled because as it is now,
Serbia is only offered to surender so,
better keep Mum now without surender,
and wait forfuture opportunity.

Arn.Sweden.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Hold out gents against the enormous " pressure !". It is a free trade agreement your negotiating; surely not worth selling99 your' culture and heritage for?
(teesy, 5 April 2013 19:28)

You are 100% correct.

J

pre 11 godina

If B92 will allow it, please see link below. Thaci is proposing a war if Serbia does not hand over Kosovo. What strikes me, as always, that this event will only occur with the involvement of outside countries and never the albos themselves. Come on albos, if you want it so badly, fight for it yourselves, if you have the guts!

[link]/
(ivan, 5 April 2013 18:57)

Who the f is translating this sh.t from Albanian to Serbian and then to English. It's amazing to see the video in Albanian and then come here on B92 the next day and find out that what was said in the video is the opposite of what B92 writes. The usual Serb buys it without a question and voila we found the enemy of the state and as always it happens to be an Albanian. Look closer, look at your own. I am no fan of Thaci but it is obvious these "mis- translations" are done on purpose. Your higher ups have nowhere to hide so let's create a scapegoat for their own failures. Thaci actually said that this "no deal" is going to hurt both sides and keep them from advancing.
Waiter, more propaganda please.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Serbia should just walk away from this whole thing. They should remove Kosovo from it's constitution and just forget it. They are just acting as negotiators for Kosovo Serbs anyway. It's wrong though that Serbia is seen as controlling all the Serbs of north Kosovo. When it agreed to put customs agents on the border that was it!! Just forget it!!

Ulticiushope

pre 11 godina

We should all understand that, whatever happens, Serbia is loosing something. There is n enormous responsibility (burden) on our negotiation team - however this neverending story ENDS, these people will be considered traitors. Unfortunately, though, the very people that brought us here will try to make this their victory...." if they had been the ones to decide, everything would have been much different", and stuff like that..but they had almost 12 years to deal with it...and...?

Viktor Zemunac

pre 11 godina

This is misserable situation,Chetik·s VOJVODA,Duke is forced to sign capitulation. But WESTERN POWERS already bought Kosovo by credits,and IT SEEMS that Serbia can not live without Western MONEY, To stay in power,our liders must sign to give even North Kosovo for DATE,in translation more credits.They live comfortable life as a politicians,while Serbia is sinking.We need REFERENDUM,please ask people to decide such big question...Solution is not to sign,but work...

Navin

pre 11 godina

A military takeover of the north will not solve anything. If anything it will make things worse. Serbs and albanians will be even further appart. Serbia is even less likely to recognize Kosovo or develop any good relations with albanians. The situation in Presevo will also be strained. And who will shelter the thousands of serbs who will be forced to flee the north? Serbs will be even less likely to let go of Kosovo and serbs will be even more anti Eu and more pro Russia, which is something the Eu and America don't want. You simply cannot expell a people from their own territory just because they don't want to be part of something that is out to get them. A quick takeover might be successful in the short term but what then? Will Eulex/Kps remain in a place where people see them as hostile occupiers? An attack on peaceful protesters will cause new tensions and even new conflicts. Is the west willing to risk that?

Be careful Serbia

pre 11 godina

Please choice Kosovo make referendum and 80% of the Serbs will choice Kosovo,forget the EU(NATO) and turn to Russia and set Russian military bases around Serbia.Kosovo is the identity of the Serbian nation,without Kosovo Serbia is capitulated,Serbia has born to fight and have survived for centuries against the invaders and have never submitted.
America can do nothing against Serbia anymore she is close to bankruptcy and have a lot of other problems in Asia,its domination will end in this decade being replaced by China a strong friend of Serbia,Europe will do nothing against Serbia because of Russia and Islam,so Serbia now should take by force the North Kosovo with others Serbian enclaves because the EU(NATO) doesn't want peace in the balkans doesn't want to give this regions to Serbia,and in the near future Serbia will have the door open to take the whole Kosovo.

just a thought

pre 11 godina

So sad, Too bad, 5 April 2013 18:09)
And from which EU,US,Australian or Canadian state are you writing this message from? Sitting at a computer afforded by your life in the west which you so readily would deny the Serbs in Serbia.

John

pre 11 godina

How many talks do they need for the same topic? You have no other problems in the country? I checked the current news (time: 20:38) of this webpage and among 16 reports 11 circle around Kosovo. And you still wonder why Serbia's economic situation is a mess? You are blinded by this topic. The world moves on, while you are stuck in countless (self-)discussions which bring zero results.

teesy

pre 11 godina

Hold out gents against the enormous " pressure !". It is a free trade agreement your negotiating; surely not worth selling99 your' culture and heritage for?

Horvat

pre 11 godina

Whatever the decision is, they will be called traitors. By the same people who have brought Serbia into this position.
The only certainty is that they are capable and wise and the decision once they come upon, will be lesser of the two evil.

Milli

pre 11 godina

It is so normal that the meeting lasted for so long. And this won't be the last one. Tough days are ahead of Serbia. And hard choices

ivan

pre 11 godina

If B92 will allow it, please see link below. Thaci is proposing a war if Serbia does not hand over Kosovo. What strikes me, as always, that this event will only occur with the involvement of outside countries and never the albos themselves. Come on albos, if you want it so badly, fight for it yourselves, if you have the guts!

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/hashim-thaci-threatens-serbia-with-war/

John

pre 11 godina

How many talks do they need for the same topic? You have no other problems in the country? I checked the current news (time: 20:38) of this webpage and among 16 reports 11 circle around Kosovo. And you still wonder why Serbia's economic situation is a mess? You are blinded by this topic. The world moves on, while you are stuck in countless (self-)discussions which bring zero results.

teesy

pre 11 godina

Hold out gents against the enormous " pressure !". It is a free trade agreement your negotiating; surely not worth selling99 your' culture and heritage for?

Horvat

pre 11 godina

Whatever the decision is, they will be called traitors. By the same people who have brought Serbia into this position.
The only certainty is that they are capable and wise and the decision once they come upon, will be lesser of the two evil.

ivan

pre 11 godina

If B92 will allow it, please see link below. Thaci is proposing a war if Serbia does not hand over Kosovo. What strikes me, as always, that this event will only occur with the involvement of outside countries and never the albos themselves. Come on albos, if you want it so badly, fight for it yourselves, if you have the guts!

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/hashim-thaci-threatens-serbia-with-war/

Milli

pre 11 godina

It is so normal that the meeting lasted for so long. And this won't be the last one. Tough days are ahead of Serbia. And hard choices

prop at its best

pre 11 godina

Waiter, more propaganda please.
(J, 6 April 2013 02:56)
But it works as you can see. Ivan started it, Arn Sweden has bought it,by next week you will see at least 15 references here from ultranationalists that Thaci has threatened war.

J

pre 11 godina

If B92 will allow it, please see link below. Thaci is proposing a war if Serbia does not hand over Kosovo. What strikes me, as always, that this event will only occur with the involvement of outside countries and never the albos themselves. Come on albos, if you want it so badly, fight for it yourselves, if you have the guts!

[link]/
(ivan, 5 April 2013 18:57)

Who the f is translating this sh.t from Albanian to Serbian and then to English. It's amazing to see the video in Albanian and then come here on B92 the next day and find out that what was said in the video is the opposite of what B92 writes. The usual Serb buys it without a question and voila we found the enemy of the state and as always it happens to be an Albanian. Look closer, look at your own. I am no fan of Thaci but it is obvious these "mis- translations" are done on purpose. Your higher ups have nowhere to hide so let's create a scapegoat for their own failures. Thaci actually said that this "no deal" is going to hurt both sides and keep them from advancing.
Waiter, more propaganda please.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Serbia should just walk away from this whole thing. They should remove Kosovo from it's constitution and just forget it. They are just acting as negotiators for Kosovo Serbs anyway. It's wrong though that Serbia is seen as controlling all the Serbs of north Kosovo. When it agreed to put customs agents on the border that was it!! Just forget it!!

I disagree

pre 11 godina

No matter what they decide it is going to be very hard for Serbia. This is a no-win situation for both Kosovo and Serbia.
(Lillyan, 5 April 2013 22:23)
I think you are wrong. If Serbia makes the break with Kosovo it will be free to focus on advancing Serbia and making a life for Serbs. It will open the door to investments, and grants. If Serbia does not then they will at least temporarily beomce isolated and investments and money will be remarkably reduced, it will cause internal conflicts and chaos.
It will also cause the fence riders internationally to climb off the fence and most likely more recognitions for Kosovo in the near future.

On the other hand, an agreement means for Kosovo, a door to the future investments, a green light toward Europe but with an internal conflict escalated at least initially. But that conflict will not have external support.
If the agreement is rejected, the EU/US is going to see a need to separate Kosovo and Serbia completely. Energy wasted on Serbia over the last few years to get it to make a voluntary move will now be focused on Kosovo. Because the way forward will be to make Kosovo as strong as possible. You will probably see a surge of agreements between Kosovo and other countries to highlight that the road to Kosovo does not flow through Serbia.
I would also expect an initial increase in Kfor as a signal to Serbia that the mandate to protect Kosovo is still in force and is taken seriously.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Walk away from those talks", and wait for the opportunity created by God
(Arn.Sweden., 6 April 2013 07:23)

Probably Mr. Gravrilovic can help... He should start parallel talks with God to convince God to create that opportunity as soon as possible for God's choosen people; the Serbs.

just a thought

pre 11 godina

So sad, Too bad, 5 April 2013 18:09)
And from which EU,US,Australian or Canadian state are you writing this message from? Sitting at a computer afforded by your life in the west which you so readily would deny the Serbs in Serbia.

Ulticiushope

pre 11 godina

We should all understand that, whatever happens, Serbia is loosing something. There is n enormous responsibility (burden) on our negotiation team - however this neverending story ENDS, these people will be considered traitors. Unfortunately, though, the very people that brought us here will try to make this their victory...." if they had been the ones to decide, everything would have been much different", and stuff like that..but they had almost 12 years to deal with it...and...?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

As the commentator Ivan belowe has hinted at -

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/hashim-thaci-threatens-serbia-with-war/

- there will be a War and Albania will come for Kosovo.

Serbia should as another talkbacker suggests -
"Walk away from those talks",
and wait for the opportunity created by God,
when the scores will be settled because as it is now,
Serbia is only offered to surender so,
better keep Mum now without surender,
and wait forfuture opportunity.

Arn.Sweden.

Navin

pre 11 godina

A military takeover of the north will not solve anything. If anything it will make things worse. Serbs and albanians will be even further appart. Serbia is even less likely to recognize Kosovo or develop any good relations with albanians. The situation in Presevo will also be strained. And who will shelter the thousands of serbs who will be forced to flee the north? Serbs will be even less likely to let go of Kosovo and serbs will be even more anti Eu and more pro Russia, which is something the Eu and America don't want. You simply cannot expell a people from their own territory just because they don't want to be part of something that is out to get them. A quick takeover might be successful in the short term but what then? Will Eulex/Kps remain in a place where people see them as hostile occupiers? An attack on peaceful protesters will cause new tensions and even new conflicts. Is the west willing to risk that?

trizo

pre 11 godina

Hold out gents against the enormous " pressure !". It is a free trade agreement your negotiating; surely not worth selling99 your' culture and heritage for?
(teesy, 5 April 2013 19:28)

You are 100% correct.

Be careful Serbia

pre 11 godina

Please choice Kosovo make referendum and 80% of the Serbs will choice Kosovo,forget the EU(NATO) and turn to Russia and set Russian military bases around Serbia.Kosovo is the identity of the Serbian nation,without Kosovo Serbia is capitulated,Serbia has born to fight and have survived for centuries against the invaders and have never submitted.
America can do nothing against Serbia anymore she is close to bankruptcy and have a lot of other problems in Asia,its domination will end in this decade being replaced by China a strong friend of Serbia,Europe will do nothing against Serbia because of Russia and Islam,so Serbia now should take by force the North Kosovo with others Serbian enclaves because the EU(NATO) doesn't want peace in the balkans doesn't want to give this regions to Serbia,and in the near future Serbia will have the door open to take the whole Kosovo.

Viktor Zemunac

pre 11 godina

This is misserable situation,Chetik·s VOJVODA,Duke is forced to sign capitulation. But WESTERN POWERS already bought Kosovo by credits,and IT SEEMS that Serbia can not live without Western MONEY, To stay in power,our liders must sign to give even North Kosovo for DATE,in translation more credits.They live comfortable life as a politicians,while Serbia is sinking.We need REFERENDUM,please ask people to decide such big question...Solution is not to sign,but work...

ivan

pre 11 godina

If B92 will allow it, please see link below. Thaci is proposing a war if Serbia does not hand over Kosovo. What strikes me, as always, that this event will only occur with the involvement of outside countries and never the albos themselves. Come on albos, if you want it so badly, fight for it yourselves, if you have the guts!

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/hashim-thaci-threatens-serbia-with-war/

John

pre 11 godina

How many talks do they need for the same topic? You have no other problems in the country? I checked the current news (time: 20:38) of this webpage and among 16 reports 11 circle around Kosovo. And you still wonder why Serbia's economic situation is a mess? You are blinded by this topic. The world moves on, while you are stuck in countless (self-)discussions which bring zero results.

teesy

pre 11 godina

Hold out gents against the enormous " pressure !". It is a free trade agreement your negotiating; surely not worth selling99 your' culture and heritage for?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

As the commentator Ivan belowe has hinted at -

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/hashim-thaci-threatens-serbia-with-war/

- there will be a War and Albania will come for Kosovo.

Serbia should as another talkbacker suggests -
"Walk away from those talks",
and wait for the opportunity created by God,
when the scores will be settled because as it is now,
Serbia is only offered to surender so,
better keep Mum now without surender,
and wait forfuture opportunity.

Arn.Sweden.

Horvat

pre 11 godina

Whatever the decision is, they will be called traitors. By the same people who have brought Serbia into this position.
The only certainty is that they are capable and wise and the decision once they come upon, will be lesser of the two evil.

Milli

pre 11 godina

It is so normal that the meeting lasted for so long. And this won't be the last one. Tough days are ahead of Serbia. And hard choices

Be careful Serbia

pre 11 godina

Please choice Kosovo make referendum and 80% of the Serbs will choice Kosovo,forget the EU(NATO) and turn to Russia and set Russian military bases around Serbia.Kosovo is the identity of the Serbian nation,without Kosovo Serbia is capitulated,Serbia has born to fight and have survived for centuries against the invaders and have never submitted.
America can do nothing against Serbia anymore she is close to bankruptcy and have a lot of other problems in Asia,its domination will end in this decade being replaced by China a strong friend of Serbia,Europe will do nothing against Serbia because of Russia and Islam,so Serbia now should take by force the North Kosovo with others Serbian enclaves because the EU(NATO) doesn't want peace in the balkans doesn't want to give this regions to Serbia,and in the near future Serbia will have the door open to take the whole Kosovo.

Navin

pre 11 godina

A military takeover of the north will not solve anything. If anything it will make things worse. Serbs and albanians will be even further appart. Serbia is even less likely to recognize Kosovo or develop any good relations with albanians. The situation in Presevo will also be strained. And who will shelter the thousands of serbs who will be forced to flee the north? Serbs will be even less likely to let go of Kosovo and serbs will be even more anti Eu and more pro Russia, which is something the Eu and America don't want. You simply cannot expell a people from their own territory just because they don't want to be part of something that is out to get them. A quick takeover might be successful in the short term but what then? Will Eulex/Kps remain in a place where people see them as hostile occupiers? An attack on peaceful protesters will cause new tensions and even new conflicts. Is the west willing to risk that?

trizo

pre 11 godina

Hold out gents against the enormous " pressure !". It is a free trade agreement your negotiating; surely not worth selling99 your' culture and heritage for?
(teesy, 5 April 2013 19:28)

You are 100% correct.

just a thought

pre 11 godina

So sad, Too bad, 5 April 2013 18:09)
And from which EU,US,Australian or Canadian state are you writing this message from? Sitting at a computer afforded by your life in the west which you so readily would deny the Serbs in Serbia.

Viktor Zemunac

pre 11 godina

This is misserable situation,Chetik·s VOJVODA,Duke is forced to sign capitulation. But WESTERN POWERS already bought Kosovo by credits,and IT SEEMS that Serbia can not live without Western MONEY, To stay in power,our liders must sign to give even North Kosovo for DATE,in translation more credits.They live comfortable life as a politicians,while Serbia is sinking.We need REFERENDUM,please ask people to decide such big question...Solution is not to sign,but work...

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Walk away from those talks", and wait for the opportunity created by God
(Arn.Sweden., 6 April 2013 07:23)

Probably Mr. Gravrilovic can help... He should start parallel talks with God to convince God to create that opportunity as soon as possible for God's choosen people; the Serbs.

Ulticiushope

pre 11 godina

We should all understand that, whatever happens, Serbia is loosing something. There is n enormous responsibility (burden) on our negotiation team - however this neverending story ENDS, these people will be considered traitors. Unfortunately, though, the very people that brought us here will try to make this their victory...." if they had been the ones to decide, everything would have been much different", and stuff like that..but they had almost 12 years to deal with it...and...?

Brian

pre 11 godina

Serbia should just walk away from this whole thing. They should remove Kosovo from it's constitution and just forget it. They are just acting as negotiators for Kosovo Serbs anyway. It's wrong though that Serbia is seen as controlling all the Serbs of north Kosovo. When it agreed to put customs agents on the border that was it!! Just forget it!!

J

pre 11 godina

If B92 will allow it, please see link below. Thaci is proposing a war if Serbia does not hand over Kosovo. What strikes me, as always, that this event will only occur with the involvement of outside countries and never the albos themselves. Come on albos, if you want it so badly, fight for it yourselves, if you have the guts!

[link]/
(ivan, 5 April 2013 18:57)

Who the f is translating this sh.t from Albanian to Serbian and then to English. It's amazing to see the video in Albanian and then come here on B92 the next day and find out that what was said in the video is the opposite of what B92 writes. The usual Serb buys it without a question and voila we found the enemy of the state and as always it happens to be an Albanian. Look closer, look at your own. I am no fan of Thaci but it is obvious these "mis- translations" are done on purpose. Your higher ups have nowhere to hide so let's create a scapegoat for their own failures. Thaci actually said that this "no deal" is going to hurt both sides and keep them from advancing.
Waiter, more propaganda please.

I disagree

pre 11 godina

No matter what they decide it is going to be very hard for Serbia. This is a no-win situation for both Kosovo and Serbia.
(Lillyan, 5 April 2013 22:23)
I think you are wrong. If Serbia makes the break with Kosovo it will be free to focus on advancing Serbia and making a life for Serbs. It will open the door to investments, and grants. If Serbia does not then they will at least temporarily beomce isolated and investments and money will be remarkably reduced, it will cause internal conflicts and chaos.
It will also cause the fence riders internationally to climb off the fence and most likely more recognitions for Kosovo in the near future.

On the other hand, an agreement means for Kosovo, a door to the future investments, a green light toward Europe but with an internal conflict escalated at least initially. But that conflict will not have external support.
If the agreement is rejected, the EU/US is going to see a need to separate Kosovo and Serbia completely. Energy wasted on Serbia over the last few years to get it to make a voluntary move will now be focused on Kosovo. Because the way forward will be to make Kosovo as strong as possible. You will probably see a surge of agreements between Kosovo and other countries to highlight that the road to Kosovo does not flow through Serbia.
I would also expect an initial increase in Kfor as a signal to Serbia that the mandate to protect Kosovo is still in force and is taken seriously.

prop at its best

pre 11 godina

Waiter, more propaganda please.
(J, 6 April 2013 02:56)
But it works as you can see. Ivan started it, Arn Sweden has bought it,by next week you will see at least 15 references here from ultranationalists that Thaci has threatened war.