45

Saturday, 30.03.2013.

11:13

Anti-Semitic posters in downtown Belgrade

Anti-Semitic posters, accusing Jews of being responsible for the 1999 bombing of the former Yugoslavia, have been put up in downtown Belgrade.

Izvor: B92

Anti-Semitic posters in downtown Belgrade IMAGE SOURCE
IMAGE DESCRIPTION

45 Komentari

Sortiraj po:

Pebbles

pre 11 godina

It appears the Serbs would love to bring back the laws once introducued by Serbian mastermind Milan NEDIC.
(Bam Bam, 2 April 2013 03:36)

Nedic is a nobody. Pavelic is your hero. You admitted yourself you want to raise your children in the NDH way. You're the last person with any right to judge Serbia you racist.

Bush

pre 11 godina

I would say that these neo-Nazis have a lot in common with those who were in power in Belgrade when Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO. I would happily gave you many examples.
(Ian Bancroft, UK, 30 March 2013 20:38)

Our leaders were politician with many of those turned to become criminals. But Kosovo's one were terrorist and criminals turned to be politicians.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

IAN UK, one last comment. If you're too stupid to ask, you're too stupid to know.
(Aleks, 1 April 2013 00:32)

He will probably indicate in his next post that those who were not evacuated and were killed by Croatian forces, committed suicide. Ian, in which category you belong: you are patriot for sure but what about this other one? Expressing so much hate in your post against Serbs, does that qualifies you as nationalist? I just wonder why did you stop commenting on "new kosova report" website? There are not Serbs commenting there so they will not get offended by your anti Serbian posts? As it seems that is your main purpose mate.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

I bet that Ian supports similar action against Serbs in Kosovo. He seems to publish comments 24/7 probably does not have anything else to do and his voice would not be heard anywhere else if it is was not for b92.
(Marko, 31 March 2013 19:10)

Ian was also very active in commenting on "new kosova report" website. His comments are always anti Serbian and he is blaming Serbs for everything bad what happened in Yugoslav wars. Someone who can write "criminal operation Storm" is not better than those who actively participated and ethnically cleansed Serbian population from Croatia.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

Ethnic cleansing campaign? Then why did Milan Martic on the 4 Aug 95 order "the evacuation of all persons incapable of military service from the Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Drnis and Gracac municipalities" if they were ethnically cleansed & not evacuated?

IAN UK, one last comment. If you're too stupid to ask, you're too stupid to know.

Marko

pre 11 godina

Just look at all of his posts, the most irking one...the Serb claimed 'illegal operation storm'.
(Aleks, 31 March 2013 00:08)

Actually what Ian wrote "what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" which is the same thing.

I bet that Ian supports similar action against Serbs in Kosovo. He seems to publish comments 24/7 probably does not have anything else to do and his voice would not be heard anywhere else if it is was not for b92.

Chaslav

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

^^^ Dragan is mostly correct in his assessment. I am a US citizen, and it was primarily American Jews who were behind the bombings and negative publicity campaign aimed against Serbia. Also, I am not sure that Israel is supportive of Serbia against her aggressors, since the US government basically takes orders from the Israeli government (and no one here can refute that; again, I LIVE in the US). US Jews constantly praise Albanians and Turks with their media, yet they constantly attack Muslim countries which surround Israel, such as Jordan and Syria. This is because these Jews see Albanians and Turks as allies in their campaign to weaken the solidarity of Eastern European peoples.

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Ari.

Please explain the difference between your views and the views of these Serbian fascists.

They only difference I see is the addition of "it's the Jews' fault"

Please explain how I'm mistaken.

Bullwinkle

pre 11 godina

enjoy Serbia, your games of deception, and trying to withold the truth from the world, are finall coming to its end!!!
(Rocky, 30 March 2013 21:49)

Leave it up to you to be that one village idiot that actually believes this speaks for all of Serbia. Then again, I found your YouTube page. Man you're a gullible kid. And an angry little one too! Tell me, do you ever get off your parent's computer or do you just troll every English language Balkan site you can find to pass the time?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

(Rocky, 30 March 2013 21:49)

LOLOL Rocky. "Games of deception" AHAHAHA. That article you posted actually shows the Mayor of BG and the Deputy PM condemning the incident while the Israeli Embassy confirming the fact that most Serbs are friendly to the Jewish people.

So widespread condemnation on both sides, talks of historical links between both people, where are the "lies and deception" being hidden?

Bob

pre 11 godina

There is too much over categorisation in many postings here.

To categorise Jews is what these idiot nazis want - Jews are not a uniform category. They are people.

Please watch out for racist over generalisations.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

To most people a massive ethnic cleansing campaign i.e. Operation Storm is considered an illegal act, perhaps it doesn't count to you when its Serbs being cleansed. As far as Kosovo i Metohija, I don't think supporting your country's territorial integrity is extremist and Nazi in any way. You have the U.K. who holds on so tightly to the Falkland Islands when they are across the entire world. Kosovo i Metohija is our Jerusalem, our religious and spiritual core which is occupied and undergoing ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Serbian people. You will always get people from across society that will stand up against that, not just neo-Nazi's.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 19:26)

Ethnic cleansing campaign? Then why did Milan Martic on the 4 Aug 95 order "the evacuation of all persons incapable of military service from the Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Drnis and Gracac municipalities" if they were ethnically cleansed & not evacuated?
No the UK supports the Falkland Islands' right to be a democratic self governing territory (UN's right to self determination) just like the UK supports Kosovo's right to be a country & how we will respect Scotland's right to be a country if they vote yes next year.
I agree Kosovo is like Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a city important to Muslims, Jews & Christians. Kosovo is a land important to Albanians, Serbs & others. However Serbs want Kosovo to be only theirs like Jews want Jerusalem to be only theirs.
What ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo?

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(Paul, 30 March 2013 21:26)

Stalin wasn't just Georgian, he was an ethnic Ossetian also.

And no, the people who put up the posters were not Catholics (I'm anti-Catholic btw as I'm a hardcore Atheist who was raised Anglican aka English Protestantism), if you view the website as advertised on the poster shown in the article, it is very clear that they're hardcore followers of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

The Catholic Church was generally favourable towards the Nazis during WW2 as the Nazis were in favour of upholding conservative traditional values which was in line with the Catholic Church. Even Jozef Tiso the President of the Nazi Slovak Republic was a Catholic Priest. Yes Hitler was a Roman Catholic, however he also believed in Valhalla which is an ancient Germanic Pagan belief. Hitler also had many friends and allies outside of the Catholic World, including many Orthodox Christians; Nazism isn't restricted to the followers of Roman Catholicism, this poster is proof.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

Honestly Zoran and others, the best thing you can do is basically allow the likes of 'IAN UK' to post and then ignore them. 'I can give you examples'...'I have this proof'...then throws out 'names' but no proof. Someone who is not from the Balkans, just takes an interest. Someone who is actually paid to post on here. Just look at all of his posts, the most irking one...the Serb claimed 'illegal operation storm'.

Well genius, here is a challenge for you. PLEASE prove how Operation Storm was legal? Please prove to me that 250,000 civilians were not driven out of Croatia during Operation Storm. Please prove that when Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia in 1991 that Serbs in high ranking positions were not dismissed and were to basically become second class citizens. Please prove to me that Tudjman did not have plans to kill, murder, and cleanse the Serbs. Please prove that just 50 years earlier Croatia did not secede and join Nazi forces and run death camps that killed nearly a million Serbs...most famously Jasenovac. Hell, prove Jasenovac never happened (this was not even a complete generation ago which means many people were alive during WW2 to witness).

I kindly await your proof Mr. 'novice who only posts here out of interests'. Because I must have really been hoodwinked by the Serbs I know who fled and barely survived Operation Storm (we're talking civilians, and yes they witnessed some brutal murders) or by the few who are now older but saw it happen in WW2.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

oh Ari Gold, I can only hope that you don't tip over when Israel finally does extend recognition, as it undoubtedly will. after all, other countries that Serbia had good relations with have already recognized us. there have alreddy been various newspaper articles in haaretz urging the Israeli leadership to do it. Israel has not said they will NEVER recognize us, they have said they will wait for a bit. when it does happen, drink lots and lots of water and fight your bad thoughts

Rocky

pre 11 godina

B-92
I told you western media would find the issue very interesting! What the Information Age is capable of, enjoy Serbia, your games of deception, and trying to withold the truth from the world, are finall coming to its end!!!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=166659

Paul

pre 11 godina

Stalin was not Jewish and he was not Russian either. Stalin was Georgian.

If you want to blame someone, reach into history and see the who the real cuprit is: the Catholics. And I'll bet it was Catholic Serbs who put up that sign. Croatia has alwasys been Catholic and during WWII they persecuted Serbs with a madness that even the Nazis could not control. Conversion to Catholicism was an option to monstrous death for only a third of the Serbs under Ustasha Croatia. And Ustasha Croatia is back, unrepentent and undisciplined by the same EU whose sadistic trifling with the affairs of Serbia we are obliged to dignify every day.

Tito was Catholic. The Hungarians of Vojvadina are Catholic. Hitler was Catholic and it was his alliance with the same Muslims who invented Palestinian Nationalism that helped commit genocide against the Serbs in Bosnia. The Muslims and the Catholics are the historical enemies of the Serbs. And they are the historical enemies of free people everywhere. The Jews are innocent.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

You are correct. Looking at their website, they are neo-Nazis. Serbian patriots are anti-fascists. Not sure where this lot came from but they have a lot in common with those that bombed Serbia.
(Zoran, 30 March 2013 18:00)

Care to give some examples of what these neo-Nazis have in come "with those that bombed Serbia"?

I would say that these neo-Nazis have a lot in common with those who were in power in Belgrade when Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO. I would happily gave you many examples.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Yore all wrong Israel looks up to Croatia. When Sharon was being charged in the Hague for war crimes. Israel cargo planes were placed in Pula Croatia for safe keeping until U.S. sorted out the self righteous Europeans. The worlds 3rd largest pharmaceutics Co Croatian Pliva was sold to Teva of Israel. Their European operations headquartered in Croatia and lot of other investments here. Over 100,000 Israelis vacation in Croatia every year direct flights between the two. Israel is helping modernize Croatian armed forces equipment tanks ,drones etc. Their is definitely lots of fascist Serbs they don't like any one even Serbs that don't agree with them or follow their evil criminal ideology.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

It did not recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first. We all know why? But, once Arab countries are done you will see it. By the way, Kosova passport is valid to travel to Israel.
(Ardi Asllani, 30 March 2013 18:46)

What a weak excuse. "It didn't recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first", does Hoxha's education system really teach you to be that primitive? I'm pretty glad everything you say on here are mere fantasies that you think up of when your bored in your room and that they have nothing to do with reality!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" and of course there is the whole "Kosovo is Serbia" all over their site. So Ari, their views aren't too different from yours mate. But you're a "patriot" aren't you???
(Ian, UK, 30 March 2013 17:16)

To most people a massive ethnic cleansing campaign i.e. Operation Storm is considered an illegal act, perhaps it doesn't count to you when its Serbs being cleansed. As far as Kosovo i Metohija, I don't think supporting your country's territorial integrity is extremist and Nazi in any way. You have the U.K. who holds on so tightly to the Falkland Islands when they are across the entire world. Kosovo i Metohija is our Jerusalem, our religious and spiritual core which is occupied and undergoing ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Serbian people. You will always get people from across society that will stand up against that, not just neo-Nazi's.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

Very wrong Dragan. Stae of Israel does not support Serbia. On contrary, Israel has one close ally and that is the big US of A. It did not recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first. We all know why? But, once Arab countries are done you will see it. By the way, Kosova passport is valid to travel to Israel.

coach

pre 11 godina

And at the same time the same people cherish Stalins liberation of Serbia, the same Jew Stalin that killed millions of Slavs in the Holodomor.

What a confused people, with so many myths.
(koko, 30 March 2013 14:59)


That's pretty funny koko, but not totally correct. You forgot about the Royalists who were neither fascist nor communist. Serbs do need to get on the same page though. Either find a mutual agreement or "settle" it once and for all.

Now, about the posters... It looks to me like they're blaming "jews" such as Albright, Holbrooke, & Clark, but not the state of Israel directly. Is it a zionist conspiracy? Who knows. However I personally think they're just referring to the jewish "joint criminal enterprise" (see above) that was directly responsible for NATO's illegal aggression against Serbia.

Also, all this talk about Jews and Serbs being kindred spirits, I don't buy one bit. Gettin' all buddy buddy with the gentiles? lol...C'mon man.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

These people are not Serbian patriots. They are Neo-Nazis. The Serbs were the most anti-Fascist people in the entire Balkans so you cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi, the two are not compatible.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)
--
You are correct. Looking at their website, they are neo-Nazis. Serbian patriots are anti-fascists. Not sure where this lot came from but they have a lot in common with those that bombed Serbia.

Bush

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

I must say Daniel Serwer is probably the biggest (and best paid) lobbyist against Serbia and for Kosovo independence, just check his blog: http://www.peacefare.net/?cat=6

Jerry

pre 11 godina

So, Ari. What do you think about "Serbian patriotism" when it turns on you/.
(Danilo, 30 March 2013 11:53)

We saved many jews in WWII, big difference then what your NDH did.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)

Yes you're right, they are not Serb Patriots, they are Serb Nationalists.

As Charles de Gaulle once said: "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first".

You cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi as the two are not compatible, however this applies to every ethnic group in the world; not just Serbs.

Patriotism is when the love of your own people and country is the most important thing in the world.
Under National-Socialism, ideologically Nationalism and the hate/ dislike of other ethnic/ religious groups are two very important aspects; which are more important than the love of your own.

Therefore you cannot be a Patriot and a Nazi as the two are incompatible as they have conflicting views.

The people who put up these posters are most definitely Neo-Nazis, it has been put up by the Serbian branch of "Blood & Honour" and is related to Combat 18; they're obsessed with the 'survival' of the white race. This group takes it's name from the Hitler Youth's motto "Blut und Ehre". If you take a look at their website, you can see what they deem as the "ANTISERBIAN COALITION", which includes a Vojvodina separatist parade, a Communist parade, an LGBT parade, what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" and of course there is the whole "Kosovo is Serbia" all over their site. So Ari, their views aren't too different from yours mate. But you're a "patriot" aren't you???

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

You on the other hand are so indoctrinated in your Serbophobic ideology that I would categorize it as a security threat.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)

Ari, this is probably the one time I'm going to have to take Danilo's side. I can hardly think of him or the "Serbophobic" elements like Kandic, Biserko, Pesic, or Ceda as a "security threat". They're more like a novelty - a vocal yet impotent novelty who spend more time giving interviews to Radio Free Europe than actually thinking of ways to get their messages out to the "normal" Serbian people whom they despise as little more than ignorant peasants. They're more in favor of holding Gay Pride parades than the actual LGBT population who are getting rather annoyed they're being used as political tools instead of being seen as people who just want to show they're normal like everyone else. In fact, most Serbs are, at some point or another, a "self-hating" Serb who mixes a sense of moral justice with self-deprecating reality. And while I can hardly agree with some of Danilo's opinions, he's harmless and someone I can't imagine would raise a stink beyond a passing comment on B92. Making him out to be some sinister agent gives him far more credibility than even he would like to think he has.

These "neo-Nazis" on the other hand *are* a menace to society and give Serbia a far worse name and image. The minute they do something, the press zeroes in. Who the Hell pays attention anymore to what Kandic says?

Dragan

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....

koko

pre 11 godina

And at the same time the same people cherish Stalins liberation of Serbia, the same Jew Stalin that killed millions of Slavs in the Holodomor.

What a confused people, with so many myths.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

So, Ari. What do you think about "Serbian patriotism" when it turns on you/.
(Danilo, 30 March 2013 11:53)

These people are not Serbian patriots. They are Neo-Nazis. The Serbs were the most anti-Fascist people in the entire Balkans so you cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi, the two are not compatible.

These are far right extremists, which represent a threat to Serbia. But then you also have your lot which can generally be found in Belgrade, the self hating Serbs. They support socially liberal constructs such as LGBT parades and abortions and fume at Serbia's proud history or Orthodox Christian values.

I would say you are a lot more dangerous for Serbia than those who made the anti-Semitic posters. Those guys are just uneducated and primitive bigots, but they mainly want their actions to cause a public reaction. You on the other hand are so indoctrinated in your Serbophobic ideology that I would categorize it as a security threat.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Đilas called on all citizens of Belgrade to “respect values of the democratic society we live in and keep the spirit of tolerance and respect, something our city is famous for”.

Thank Mayor Obvious for saying what 99% of the people of Belgrade know. Now can you please do something about that 1% that has no understanding of history yet has access to a printing press as well as the ability to put these up overnight? Krv i Cast members make people in Obraz sound like intellectuals by comparison.

Zoran.

pre 11 godina

I think the Jews in Israel supported Serbia but the Jewish controlled media in the US was definitely anti-Serb. Although some people may see the posters in bad taste, I don't think there is anything illegal about it.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Never knew Israeli air force took part in bombing campaign.
(Kosova-USA, 30 March 2013 11:20)

I agree its stupid. Israel did not take part in the illegal bombing campaign nor has recognized the illegal occupation of Kosovo i Metohija as an independent state. Israel is like a more developed and unified Serbia. There are a lot of similarities between our two people and Serbia should rather aspire to build a country like Israel not abide by "European standards".

Those who put these posters up are neo-Nazi's. You can tell by the Serbian eagle on the corner of the poster, only Nazis use such a design. These far right groups ought to be banned from Serbia. There should be a clean sweep of all extremist groups including Wahhabi Mufti in Novi Pazar and Vojvodina separatists.

nick williams

pre 11 godina

Given the current state of the E.U. why would Serbia be even considering wanting to join?
Also the Jewish run press in the west did demonize the Serbs relentlessly throughout the conflict and in many ways controlled western policy towards Serbia.

nick williams

pre 11 godina

Given the current state of the E.U. why would Serbia be even considering wanting to join?
Also the Jewish run press in the west did demonize the Serbs relentlessly throughout the conflict and in many ways controlled western policy towards Serbia.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)

Yes you're right, they are not Serb Patriots, they are Serb Nationalists.

As Charles de Gaulle once said: "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first".

You cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi as the two are not compatible, however this applies to every ethnic group in the world; not just Serbs.

Patriotism is when the love of your own people and country is the most important thing in the world.
Under National-Socialism, ideologically Nationalism and the hate/ dislike of other ethnic/ religious groups are two very important aspects; which are more important than the love of your own.

Therefore you cannot be a Patriot and a Nazi as the two are incompatible as they have conflicting views.

The people who put up these posters are most definitely Neo-Nazis, it has been put up by the Serbian branch of "Blood & Honour" and is related to Combat 18; they're obsessed with the 'survival' of the white race. This group takes it's name from the Hitler Youth's motto "Blut und Ehre". If you take a look at their website, you can see what they deem as the "ANTISERBIAN COALITION", which includes a Vojvodina separatist parade, a Communist parade, an LGBT parade, what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" and of course there is the whole "Kosovo is Serbia" all over their site. So Ari, their views aren't too different from yours mate. But you're a "patriot" aren't you???

Dragan

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

You are correct. Looking at their website, they are neo-Nazis. Serbian patriots are anti-fascists. Not sure where this lot came from but they have a lot in common with those that bombed Serbia.
(Zoran, 30 March 2013 18:00)

Care to give some examples of what these neo-Nazis have in come "with those that bombed Serbia"?

I would say that these neo-Nazis have a lot in common with those who were in power in Belgrade when Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO. I would happily gave you many examples.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Never knew Israeli air force took part in bombing campaign.
(Kosova-USA, 30 March 2013 11:20)

I agree its stupid. Israel did not take part in the illegal bombing campaign nor has recognized the illegal occupation of Kosovo i Metohija as an independent state. Israel is like a more developed and unified Serbia. There are a lot of similarities between our two people and Serbia should rather aspire to build a country like Israel not abide by "European standards".

Those who put these posters up are neo-Nazi's. You can tell by the Serbian eagle on the corner of the poster, only Nazis use such a design. These far right groups ought to be banned from Serbia. There should be a clean sweep of all extremist groups including Wahhabi Mufti in Novi Pazar and Vojvodina separatists.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

Very wrong Dragan. Stae of Israel does not support Serbia. On contrary, Israel has one close ally and that is the big US of A. It did not recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first. We all know why? But, once Arab countries are done you will see it. By the way, Kosova passport is valid to travel to Israel.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

These people are not Serbian patriots. They are Neo-Nazis. The Serbs were the most anti-Fascist people in the entire Balkans so you cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi, the two are not compatible.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)
--
You are correct. Looking at their website, they are neo-Nazis. Serbian patriots are anti-fascists. Not sure where this lot came from but they have a lot in common with those that bombed Serbia.

Zoran.

pre 11 godina

I think the Jews in Israel supported Serbia but the Jewish controlled media in the US was definitely anti-Serb. Although some people may see the posters in bad taste, I don't think there is anything illegal about it.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Đilas called on all citizens of Belgrade to “respect values of the democratic society we live in and keep the spirit of tolerance and respect, something our city is famous for”.

Thank Mayor Obvious for saying what 99% of the people of Belgrade know. Now can you please do something about that 1% that has no understanding of history yet has access to a printing press as well as the ability to put these up overnight? Krv i Cast members make people in Obraz sound like intellectuals by comparison.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

B-92
I told you western media would find the issue very interesting! What the Information Age is capable of, enjoy Serbia, your games of deception, and trying to withold the truth from the world, are finall coming to its end!!!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=166659

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

So, Ari. What do you think about "Serbian patriotism" when it turns on you/.
(Danilo, 30 March 2013 11:53)

These people are not Serbian patriots. They are Neo-Nazis. The Serbs were the most anti-Fascist people in the entire Balkans so you cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi, the two are not compatible.

These are far right extremists, which represent a threat to Serbia. But then you also have your lot which can generally be found in Belgrade, the self hating Serbs. They support socially liberal constructs such as LGBT parades and abortions and fume at Serbia's proud history or Orthodox Christian values.

I would say you are a lot more dangerous for Serbia than those who made the anti-Semitic posters. Those guys are just uneducated and primitive bigots, but they mainly want their actions to cause a public reaction. You on the other hand are so indoctrinated in your Serbophobic ideology that I would categorize it as a security threat.

koko

pre 11 godina

And at the same time the same people cherish Stalins liberation of Serbia, the same Jew Stalin that killed millions of Slavs in the Holodomor.

What a confused people, with so many myths.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Yore all wrong Israel looks up to Croatia. When Sharon was being charged in the Hague for war crimes. Israel cargo planes were placed in Pula Croatia for safe keeping until U.S. sorted out the self righteous Europeans. The worlds 3rd largest pharmaceutics Co Croatian Pliva was sold to Teva of Israel. Their European operations headquartered in Croatia and lot of other investments here. Over 100,000 Israelis vacation in Croatia every year direct flights between the two. Israel is helping modernize Croatian armed forces equipment tanks ,drones etc. Their is definitely lots of fascist Serbs they don't like any one even Serbs that don't agree with them or follow their evil criminal ideology.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

It did not recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first. We all know why? But, once Arab countries are done you will see it. By the way, Kosova passport is valid to travel to Israel.
(Ardi Asllani, 30 March 2013 18:46)

What a weak excuse. "It didn't recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first", does Hoxha's education system really teach you to be that primitive? I'm pretty glad everything you say on here are mere fantasies that you think up of when your bored in your room and that they have nothing to do with reality!

Jerry

pre 11 godina

So, Ari. What do you think about "Serbian patriotism" when it turns on you/.
(Danilo, 30 March 2013 11:53)

We saved many jews in WWII, big difference then what your NDH did.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" and of course there is the whole "Kosovo is Serbia" all over their site. So Ari, their views aren't too different from yours mate. But you're a "patriot" aren't you???
(Ian, UK, 30 March 2013 17:16)

To most people a massive ethnic cleansing campaign i.e. Operation Storm is considered an illegal act, perhaps it doesn't count to you when its Serbs being cleansed. As far as Kosovo i Metohija, I don't think supporting your country's territorial integrity is extremist and Nazi in any way. You have the U.K. who holds on so tightly to the Falkland Islands when they are across the entire world. Kosovo i Metohija is our Jerusalem, our religious and spiritual core which is occupied and undergoing ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Serbian people. You will always get people from across society that will stand up against that, not just neo-Nazi's.

Paul

pre 11 godina

Stalin was not Jewish and he was not Russian either. Stalin was Georgian.

If you want to blame someone, reach into history and see the who the real cuprit is: the Catholics. And I'll bet it was Catholic Serbs who put up that sign. Croatia has alwasys been Catholic and during WWII they persecuted Serbs with a madness that even the Nazis could not control. Conversion to Catholicism was an option to monstrous death for only a third of the Serbs under Ustasha Croatia. And Ustasha Croatia is back, unrepentent and undisciplined by the same EU whose sadistic trifling with the affairs of Serbia we are obliged to dignify every day.

Tito was Catholic. The Hungarians of Vojvadina are Catholic. Hitler was Catholic and it was his alliance with the same Muslims who invented Palestinian Nationalism that helped commit genocide against the Serbs in Bosnia. The Muslims and the Catholics are the historical enemies of the Serbs. And they are the historical enemies of free people everywhere. The Jews are innocent.

Bush

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

I must say Daniel Serwer is probably the biggest (and best paid) lobbyist against Serbia and for Kosovo independence, just check his blog: http://www.peacefare.net/?cat=6

coach

pre 11 godina

And at the same time the same people cherish Stalins liberation of Serbia, the same Jew Stalin that killed millions of Slavs in the Holodomor.

What a confused people, with so many myths.
(koko, 30 March 2013 14:59)


That's pretty funny koko, but not totally correct. You forgot about the Royalists who were neither fascist nor communist. Serbs do need to get on the same page though. Either find a mutual agreement or "settle" it once and for all.

Now, about the posters... It looks to me like they're blaming "jews" such as Albright, Holbrooke, & Clark, but not the state of Israel directly. Is it a zionist conspiracy? Who knows. However I personally think they're just referring to the jewish "joint criminal enterprise" (see above) that was directly responsible for NATO's illegal aggression against Serbia.

Also, all this talk about Jews and Serbs being kindred spirits, I don't buy one bit. Gettin' all buddy buddy with the gentiles? lol...C'mon man.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

To most people a massive ethnic cleansing campaign i.e. Operation Storm is considered an illegal act, perhaps it doesn't count to you when its Serbs being cleansed. As far as Kosovo i Metohija, I don't think supporting your country's territorial integrity is extremist and Nazi in any way. You have the U.K. who holds on so tightly to the Falkland Islands when they are across the entire world. Kosovo i Metohija is our Jerusalem, our religious and spiritual core which is occupied and undergoing ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Serbian people. You will always get people from across society that will stand up against that, not just neo-Nazi's.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 19:26)

Ethnic cleansing campaign? Then why did Milan Martic on the 4 Aug 95 order "the evacuation of all persons incapable of military service from the Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Drnis and Gracac municipalities" if they were ethnically cleansed & not evacuated?
No the UK supports the Falkland Islands' right to be a democratic self governing territory (UN's right to self determination) just like the UK supports Kosovo's right to be a country & how we will respect Scotland's right to be a country if they vote yes next year.
I agree Kosovo is like Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a city important to Muslims, Jews & Christians. Kosovo is a land important to Albanians, Serbs & others. However Serbs want Kosovo to be only theirs like Jews want Jerusalem to be only theirs.
What ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo?

Aleks

pre 11 godina

Honestly Zoran and others, the best thing you can do is basically allow the likes of 'IAN UK' to post and then ignore them. 'I can give you examples'...'I have this proof'...then throws out 'names' but no proof. Someone who is not from the Balkans, just takes an interest. Someone who is actually paid to post on here. Just look at all of his posts, the most irking one...the Serb claimed 'illegal operation storm'.

Well genius, here is a challenge for you. PLEASE prove how Operation Storm was legal? Please prove to me that 250,000 civilians were not driven out of Croatia during Operation Storm. Please prove that when Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia in 1991 that Serbs in high ranking positions were not dismissed and were to basically become second class citizens. Please prove to me that Tudjman did not have plans to kill, murder, and cleanse the Serbs. Please prove that just 50 years earlier Croatia did not secede and join Nazi forces and run death camps that killed nearly a million Serbs...most famously Jasenovac. Hell, prove Jasenovac never happened (this was not even a complete generation ago which means many people were alive during WW2 to witness).

I kindly await your proof Mr. 'novice who only posts here out of interests'. Because I must have really been hoodwinked by the Serbs I know who fled and barely survived Operation Storm (we're talking civilians, and yes they witnessed some brutal murders) or by the few who are now older but saw it happen in WW2.

Bullwinkle

pre 11 godina

enjoy Serbia, your games of deception, and trying to withold the truth from the world, are finall coming to its end!!!
(Rocky, 30 March 2013 21:49)

Leave it up to you to be that one village idiot that actually believes this speaks for all of Serbia. Then again, I found your YouTube page. Man you're a gullible kid. And an angry little one too! Tell me, do you ever get off your parent's computer or do you just troll every English language Balkan site you can find to pass the time?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

You on the other hand are so indoctrinated in your Serbophobic ideology that I would categorize it as a security threat.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)

Ari, this is probably the one time I'm going to have to take Danilo's side. I can hardly think of him or the "Serbophobic" elements like Kandic, Biserko, Pesic, or Ceda as a "security threat". They're more like a novelty - a vocal yet impotent novelty who spend more time giving interviews to Radio Free Europe than actually thinking of ways to get their messages out to the "normal" Serbian people whom they despise as little more than ignorant peasants. They're more in favor of holding Gay Pride parades than the actual LGBT population who are getting rather annoyed they're being used as political tools instead of being seen as people who just want to show they're normal like everyone else. In fact, most Serbs are, at some point or another, a "self-hating" Serb who mixes a sense of moral justice with self-deprecating reality. And while I can hardly agree with some of Danilo's opinions, he's harmless and someone I can't imagine would raise a stink beyond a passing comment on B92. Making him out to be some sinister agent gives him far more credibility than even he would like to think he has.

These "neo-Nazis" on the other hand *are* a menace to society and give Serbia a far worse name and image. The minute they do something, the press zeroes in. Who the Hell pays attention anymore to what Kandic says?

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(Paul, 30 March 2013 21:26)

Stalin wasn't just Georgian, he was an ethnic Ossetian also.

And no, the people who put up the posters were not Catholics (I'm anti-Catholic btw as I'm a hardcore Atheist who was raised Anglican aka English Protestantism), if you view the website as advertised on the poster shown in the article, it is very clear that they're hardcore followers of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

The Catholic Church was generally favourable towards the Nazis during WW2 as the Nazis were in favour of upholding conservative traditional values which was in line with the Catholic Church. Even Jozef Tiso the President of the Nazi Slovak Republic was a Catholic Priest. Yes Hitler was a Roman Catholic, however he also believed in Valhalla which is an ancient Germanic Pagan belief. Hitler also had many friends and allies outside of the Catholic World, including many Orthodox Christians; Nazism isn't restricted to the followers of Roman Catholicism, this poster is proof.

Bob

pre 11 godina

There is too much over categorisation in many postings here.

To categorise Jews is what these idiot nazis want - Jews are not a uniform category. They are people.

Please watch out for racist over generalisations.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

(Rocky, 30 March 2013 21:49)

LOLOL Rocky. "Games of deception" AHAHAHA. That article you posted actually shows the Mayor of BG and the Deputy PM condemning the incident while the Israeli Embassy confirming the fact that most Serbs are friendly to the Jewish people.

So widespread condemnation on both sides, talks of historical links between both people, where are the "lies and deception" being hidden?

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Ari.

Please explain the difference between your views and the views of these Serbian fascists.

They only difference I see is the addition of "it's the Jews' fault"

Please explain how I'm mistaken.

Chaslav

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

^^^ Dragan is mostly correct in his assessment. I am a US citizen, and it was primarily American Jews who were behind the bombings and negative publicity campaign aimed against Serbia. Also, I am not sure that Israel is supportive of Serbia against her aggressors, since the US government basically takes orders from the Israeli government (and no one here can refute that; again, I LIVE in the US). US Jews constantly praise Albanians and Turks with their media, yet they constantly attack Muslim countries which surround Israel, such as Jordan and Syria. This is because these Jews see Albanians and Turks as allies in their campaign to weaken the solidarity of Eastern European peoples.

Marko

pre 11 godina

Just look at all of his posts, the most irking one...the Serb claimed 'illegal operation storm'.
(Aleks, 31 March 2013 00:08)

Actually what Ian wrote "what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" which is the same thing.

I bet that Ian supports similar action against Serbs in Kosovo. He seems to publish comments 24/7 probably does not have anything else to do and his voice would not be heard anywhere else if it is was not for b92.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

oh Ari Gold, I can only hope that you don't tip over when Israel finally does extend recognition, as it undoubtedly will. after all, other countries that Serbia had good relations with have already recognized us. there have alreddy been various newspaper articles in haaretz urging the Israeli leadership to do it. Israel has not said they will NEVER recognize us, they have said they will wait for a bit. when it does happen, drink lots and lots of water and fight your bad thoughts

Aleks

pre 11 godina

Ethnic cleansing campaign? Then why did Milan Martic on the 4 Aug 95 order "the evacuation of all persons incapable of military service from the Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Drnis and Gracac municipalities" if they were ethnically cleansed & not evacuated?

IAN UK, one last comment. If you're too stupid to ask, you're too stupid to know.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

I bet that Ian supports similar action against Serbs in Kosovo. He seems to publish comments 24/7 probably does not have anything else to do and his voice would not be heard anywhere else if it is was not for b92.
(Marko, 31 March 2013 19:10)

Ian was also very active in commenting on "new kosova report" website. His comments are always anti Serbian and he is blaming Serbs for everything bad what happened in Yugoslav wars. Someone who can write "criminal operation Storm" is not better than those who actively participated and ethnically cleansed Serbian population from Croatia.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

IAN UK, one last comment. If you're too stupid to ask, you're too stupid to know.
(Aleks, 1 April 2013 00:32)

He will probably indicate in his next post that those who were not evacuated and were killed by Croatian forces, committed suicide. Ian, in which category you belong: you are patriot for sure but what about this other one? Expressing so much hate in your post against Serbs, does that qualifies you as nationalist? I just wonder why did you stop commenting on "new kosova report" website? There are not Serbs commenting there so they will not get offended by your anti Serbian posts? As it seems that is your main purpose mate.

Bush

pre 11 godina

I would say that these neo-Nazis have a lot in common with those who were in power in Belgrade when Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO. I would happily gave you many examples.
(Ian Bancroft, UK, 30 March 2013 20:38)

Our leaders were politician with many of those turned to become criminals. But Kosovo's one were terrorist and criminals turned to be politicians.

Pebbles

pre 11 godina

It appears the Serbs would love to bring back the laws once introducued by Serbian mastermind Milan NEDIC.
(Bam Bam, 2 April 2013 03:36)

Nedic is a nobody. Pavelic is your hero. You admitted yourself you want to raise your children in the NDH way. You're the last person with any right to judge Serbia you racist.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Never knew Israeli air force took part in bombing campaign.
(Kosova-USA, 30 March 2013 11:20)

I agree its stupid. Israel did not take part in the illegal bombing campaign nor has recognized the illegal occupation of Kosovo i Metohija as an independent state. Israel is like a more developed and unified Serbia. There are a lot of similarities between our two people and Serbia should rather aspire to build a country like Israel not abide by "European standards".

Those who put these posters up are neo-Nazi's. You can tell by the Serbian eagle on the corner of the poster, only Nazis use such a design. These far right groups ought to be banned from Serbia. There should be a clean sweep of all extremist groups including Wahhabi Mufti in Novi Pazar and Vojvodina separatists.

nick williams

pre 11 godina

Given the current state of the E.U. why would Serbia be even considering wanting to join?
Also the Jewish run press in the west did demonize the Serbs relentlessly throughout the conflict and in many ways controlled western policy towards Serbia.

Dragan

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

So, Ari. What do you think about "Serbian patriotism" when it turns on you/.
(Danilo, 30 March 2013 11:53)

These people are not Serbian patriots. They are Neo-Nazis. The Serbs were the most anti-Fascist people in the entire Balkans so you cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi, the two are not compatible.

These are far right extremists, which represent a threat to Serbia. But then you also have your lot which can generally be found in Belgrade, the self hating Serbs. They support socially liberal constructs such as LGBT parades and abortions and fume at Serbia's proud history or Orthodox Christian values.

I would say you are a lot more dangerous for Serbia than those who made the anti-Semitic posters. Those guys are just uneducated and primitive bigots, but they mainly want their actions to cause a public reaction. You on the other hand are so indoctrinated in your Serbophobic ideology that I would categorize it as a security threat.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" and of course there is the whole "Kosovo is Serbia" all over their site. So Ari, their views aren't too different from yours mate. But you're a "patriot" aren't you???
(Ian, UK, 30 March 2013 17:16)

To most people a massive ethnic cleansing campaign i.e. Operation Storm is considered an illegal act, perhaps it doesn't count to you when its Serbs being cleansed. As far as Kosovo i Metohija, I don't think supporting your country's territorial integrity is extremist and Nazi in any way. You have the U.K. who holds on so tightly to the Falkland Islands when they are across the entire world. Kosovo i Metohija is our Jerusalem, our religious and spiritual core which is occupied and undergoing ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Serbian people. You will always get people from across society that will stand up against that, not just neo-Nazi's.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

It did not recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first. We all know why? But, once Arab countries are done you will see it. By the way, Kosova passport is valid to travel to Israel.
(Ardi Asllani, 30 March 2013 18:46)

What a weak excuse. "It didn't recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first", does Hoxha's education system really teach you to be that primitive? I'm pretty glad everything you say on here are mere fantasies that you think up of when your bored in your room and that they have nothing to do with reality!

Paul

pre 11 godina

Stalin was not Jewish and he was not Russian either. Stalin was Georgian.

If you want to blame someone, reach into history and see the who the real cuprit is: the Catholics. And I'll bet it was Catholic Serbs who put up that sign. Croatia has alwasys been Catholic and during WWII they persecuted Serbs with a madness that even the Nazis could not control. Conversion to Catholicism was an option to monstrous death for only a third of the Serbs under Ustasha Croatia. And Ustasha Croatia is back, unrepentent and undisciplined by the same EU whose sadistic trifling with the affairs of Serbia we are obliged to dignify every day.

Tito was Catholic. The Hungarians of Vojvadina are Catholic. Hitler was Catholic and it was his alliance with the same Muslims who invented Palestinian Nationalism that helped commit genocide against the Serbs in Bosnia. The Muslims and the Catholics are the historical enemies of the Serbs. And they are the historical enemies of free people everywhere. The Jews are innocent.

Zoran.

pre 11 godina

I think the Jews in Israel supported Serbia but the Jewish controlled media in the US was definitely anti-Serb. Although some people may see the posters in bad taste, I don't think there is anything illegal about it.

koko

pre 11 godina

And at the same time the same people cherish Stalins liberation of Serbia, the same Jew Stalin that killed millions of Slavs in the Holodomor.

What a confused people, with so many myths.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

These people are not Serbian patriots. They are Neo-Nazis. The Serbs were the most anti-Fascist people in the entire Balkans so you cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi, the two are not compatible.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)
--
You are correct. Looking at their website, they are neo-Nazis. Serbian patriots are anti-fascists. Not sure where this lot came from but they have a lot in common with those that bombed Serbia.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

Very wrong Dragan. Stae of Israel does not support Serbia. On contrary, Israel has one close ally and that is the big US of A. It did not recognize Kosova so that Arab countries to do it first. We all know why? But, once Arab countries are done you will see it. By the way, Kosova passport is valid to travel to Israel.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Yore all wrong Israel looks up to Croatia. When Sharon was being charged in the Hague for war crimes. Israel cargo planes were placed in Pula Croatia for safe keeping until U.S. sorted out the self righteous Europeans. The worlds 3rd largest pharmaceutics Co Croatian Pliva was sold to Teva of Israel. Their European operations headquartered in Croatia and lot of other investments here. Over 100,000 Israelis vacation in Croatia every year direct flights between the two. Israel is helping modernize Croatian armed forces equipment tanks ,drones etc. Their is definitely lots of fascist Serbs they don't like any one even Serbs that don't agree with them or follow their evil criminal ideology.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)

Yes you're right, they are not Serb Patriots, they are Serb Nationalists.

As Charles de Gaulle once said: "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first".

You cannot be a Serb patriot and a Nazi as the two are not compatible, however this applies to every ethnic group in the world; not just Serbs.

Patriotism is when the love of your own people and country is the most important thing in the world.
Under National-Socialism, ideologically Nationalism and the hate/ dislike of other ethnic/ religious groups are two very important aspects; which are more important than the love of your own.

Therefore you cannot be a Patriot and a Nazi as the two are incompatible as they have conflicting views.

The people who put up these posters are most definitely Neo-Nazis, it has been put up by the Serbian branch of "Blood & Honour" and is related to Combat 18; they're obsessed with the 'survival' of the white race. This group takes it's name from the Hitler Youth's motto "Blut und Ehre". If you take a look at their website, you can see what they deem as the "ANTISERBIAN COALITION", which includes a Vojvodina separatist parade, a Communist parade, an LGBT parade, what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" and of course there is the whole "Kosovo is Serbia" all over their site. So Ari, their views aren't too different from yours mate. But you're a "patriot" aren't you???

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Đilas called on all citizens of Belgrade to “respect values of the democratic society we live in and keep the spirit of tolerance and respect, something our city is famous for”.

Thank Mayor Obvious for saying what 99% of the people of Belgrade know. Now can you please do something about that 1% that has no understanding of history yet has access to a printing press as well as the ability to put these up overnight? Krv i Cast members make people in Obraz sound like intellectuals by comparison.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

You are correct. Looking at their website, they are neo-Nazis. Serbian patriots are anti-fascists. Not sure where this lot came from but they have a lot in common with those that bombed Serbia.
(Zoran, 30 March 2013 18:00)

Care to give some examples of what these neo-Nazis have in come "with those that bombed Serbia"?

I would say that these neo-Nazis have a lot in common with those who were in power in Belgrade when Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO. I would happily gave you many examples.

Jerry

pre 11 godina

So, Ari. What do you think about "Serbian patriotism" when it turns on you/.
(Danilo, 30 March 2013 11:53)

We saved many jews in WWII, big difference then what your NDH did.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

To most people a massive ethnic cleansing campaign i.e. Operation Storm is considered an illegal act, perhaps it doesn't count to you when its Serbs being cleansed. As far as Kosovo i Metohija, I don't think supporting your country's territorial integrity is extremist and Nazi in any way. You have the U.K. who holds on so tightly to the Falkland Islands when they are across the entire world. Kosovo i Metohija is our Jerusalem, our religious and spiritual core which is occupied and undergoing ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Serbian people. You will always get people from across society that will stand up against that, not just neo-Nazi's.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 19:26)

Ethnic cleansing campaign? Then why did Milan Martic on the 4 Aug 95 order "the evacuation of all persons incapable of military service from the Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Drnis and Gracac municipalities" if they were ethnically cleansed & not evacuated?
No the UK supports the Falkland Islands' right to be a democratic self governing territory (UN's right to self determination) just like the UK supports Kosovo's right to be a country & how we will respect Scotland's right to be a country if they vote yes next year.
I agree Kosovo is like Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a city important to Muslims, Jews & Christians. Kosovo is a land important to Albanians, Serbs & others. However Serbs want Kosovo to be only theirs like Jews want Jerusalem to be only theirs.
What ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

(Rocky, 30 March 2013 21:49)

LOLOL Rocky. "Games of deception" AHAHAHA. That article you posted actually shows the Mayor of BG and the Deputy PM condemning the incident while the Israeli Embassy confirming the fact that most Serbs are friendly to the Jewish people.

So widespread condemnation on both sides, talks of historical links between both people, where are the "lies and deception" being hidden?

coach

pre 11 godina

And at the same time the same people cherish Stalins liberation of Serbia, the same Jew Stalin that killed millions of Slavs in the Holodomor.

What a confused people, with so many myths.
(koko, 30 March 2013 14:59)


That's pretty funny koko, but not totally correct. You forgot about the Royalists who were neither fascist nor communist. Serbs do need to get on the same page though. Either find a mutual agreement or "settle" it once and for all.

Now, about the posters... It looks to me like they're blaming "jews" such as Albright, Holbrooke, & Clark, but not the state of Israel directly. Is it a zionist conspiracy? Who knows. However I personally think they're just referring to the jewish "joint criminal enterprise" (see above) that was directly responsible for NATO's illegal aggression against Serbia.

Also, all this talk about Jews and Serbs being kindred spirits, I don't buy one bit. Gettin' all buddy buddy with the gentiles? lol...C'mon man.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

B-92
I told you western media would find the issue very interesting! What the Information Age is capable of, enjoy Serbia, your games of deception, and trying to withold the truth from the world, are finall coming to its end!!!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=166659

Chaslav

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

^^^ Dragan is mostly correct in his assessment. I am a US citizen, and it was primarily American Jews who were behind the bombings and negative publicity campaign aimed against Serbia. Also, I am not sure that Israel is supportive of Serbia against her aggressors, since the US government basically takes orders from the Israeli government (and no one here can refute that; again, I LIVE in the US). US Jews constantly praise Albanians and Turks with their media, yet they constantly attack Muslim countries which surround Israel, such as Jordan and Syria. This is because these Jews see Albanians and Turks as allies in their campaign to weaken the solidarity of Eastern European peoples.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

You on the other hand are so indoctrinated in your Serbophobic ideology that I would categorize it as a security threat.
(Ari Gold, 30 March 2013 14:19)

Ari, this is probably the one time I'm going to have to take Danilo's side. I can hardly think of him or the "Serbophobic" elements like Kandic, Biserko, Pesic, or Ceda as a "security threat". They're more like a novelty - a vocal yet impotent novelty who spend more time giving interviews to Radio Free Europe than actually thinking of ways to get their messages out to the "normal" Serbian people whom they despise as little more than ignorant peasants. They're more in favor of holding Gay Pride parades than the actual LGBT population who are getting rather annoyed they're being used as political tools instead of being seen as people who just want to show they're normal like everyone else. In fact, most Serbs are, at some point or another, a "self-hating" Serb who mixes a sense of moral justice with self-deprecating reality. And while I can hardly agree with some of Danilo's opinions, he's harmless and someone I can't imagine would raise a stink beyond a passing comment on B92. Making him out to be some sinister agent gives him far more credibility than even he would like to think he has.

These "neo-Nazis" on the other hand *are* a menace to society and give Serbia a far worse name and image. The minute they do something, the press zeroes in. Who the Hell pays attention anymore to what Kandic says?

Bullwinkle

pre 11 godina

enjoy Serbia, your games of deception, and trying to withold the truth from the world, are finall coming to its end!!!
(Rocky, 30 March 2013 21:49)

Leave it up to you to be that one village idiot that actually believes this speaks for all of Serbia. Then again, I found your YouTube page. Man you're a gullible kid. And an angry little one too! Tell me, do you ever get off your parent's computer or do you just troll every English language Balkan site you can find to pass the time?

Danilo

pre 11 godina

Ari.

Please explain the difference between your views and the views of these Serbian fascists.

They only difference I see is the addition of "it's the Jews' fault"

Please explain how I'm mistaken.

Marko

pre 11 godina

Just look at all of his posts, the most irking one...the Serb claimed 'illegal operation storm'.
(Aleks, 31 March 2013 00:08)

Actually what Ian wrote "what they call the "criminal Operation “Storm”" which is the same thing.

I bet that Ian supports similar action against Serbs in Kosovo. He seems to publish comments 24/7 probably does not have anything else to do and his voice would not be heard anywhere else if it is was not for b92.

Bush

pre 11 godina

The state of Israel is actually very supportive of Serbia, and refuses to recognize the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' of Kosovo. It's the American Jews who are neck deep in Serbian blood. These people work for neo-fascists in Croatia and Kosovo, and most are still well paid anti-Serb hate mongers, liars and propagandists. It's a long list of war criminals - Richard Holbrooke, Madeline Albright, William Cohen, Sandy Berger, Tom Lantos, James Rubin, Daniel Serwer....
(Dragan, 30 March 2013 16:05)

I must say Daniel Serwer is probably the biggest (and best paid) lobbyist against Serbia and for Kosovo independence, just check his blog: http://www.peacefare.net/?cat=6

Aleks

pre 11 godina

Honestly Zoran and others, the best thing you can do is basically allow the likes of 'IAN UK' to post and then ignore them. 'I can give you examples'...'I have this proof'...then throws out 'names' but no proof. Someone who is not from the Balkans, just takes an interest. Someone who is actually paid to post on here. Just look at all of his posts, the most irking one...the Serb claimed 'illegal operation storm'.

Well genius, here is a challenge for you. PLEASE prove how Operation Storm was legal? Please prove to me that 250,000 civilians were not driven out of Croatia during Operation Storm. Please prove that when Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia in 1991 that Serbs in high ranking positions were not dismissed and were to basically become second class citizens. Please prove to me that Tudjman did not have plans to kill, murder, and cleanse the Serbs. Please prove that just 50 years earlier Croatia did not secede and join Nazi forces and run death camps that killed nearly a million Serbs...most famously Jasenovac. Hell, prove Jasenovac never happened (this was not even a complete generation ago which means many people were alive during WW2 to witness).

I kindly await your proof Mr. 'novice who only posts here out of interests'. Because I must have really been hoodwinked by the Serbs I know who fled and barely survived Operation Storm (we're talking civilians, and yes they witnessed some brutal murders) or by the few who are now older but saw it happen in WW2.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

(Paul, 30 March 2013 21:26)

Stalin wasn't just Georgian, he was an ethnic Ossetian also.

And no, the people who put up the posters were not Catholics (I'm anti-Catholic btw as I'm a hardcore Atheist who was raised Anglican aka English Protestantism), if you view the website as advertised on the poster shown in the article, it is very clear that they're hardcore followers of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

The Catholic Church was generally favourable towards the Nazis during WW2 as the Nazis were in favour of upholding conservative traditional values which was in line with the Catholic Church. Even Jozef Tiso the President of the Nazi Slovak Republic was a Catholic Priest. Yes Hitler was a Roman Catholic, however he also believed in Valhalla which is an ancient Germanic Pagan belief. Hitler also had many friends and allies outside of the Catholic World, including many Orthodox Christians; Nazism isn't restricted to the followers of Roman Catholicism, this poster is proof.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

oh Ari Gold, I can only hope that you don't tip over when Israel finally does extend recognition, as it undoubtedly will. after all, other countries that Serbia had good relations with have already recognized us. there have alreddy been various newspaper articles in haaretz urging the Israeli leadership to do it. Israel has not said they will NEVER recognize us, they have said they will wait for a bit. when it does happen, drink lots and lots of water and fight your bad thoughts

Mendo

pre 11 godina

I bet that Ian supports similar action against Serbs in Kosovo. He seems to publish comments 24/7 probably does not have anything else to do and his voice would not be heard anywhere else if it is was not for b92.
(Marko, 31 March 2013 19:10)

Ian was also very active in commenting on "new kosova report" website. His comments are always anti Serbian and he is blaming Serbs for everything bad what happened in Yugoslav wars. Someone who can write "criminal operation Storm" is not better than those who actively participated and ethnically cleansed Serbian population from Croatia.

Bob

pre 11 godina

There is too much over categorisation in many postings here.

To categorise Jews is what these idiot nazis want - Jews are not a uniform category. They are people.

Please watch out for racist over generalisations.

Aleks

pre 11 godina

Ethnic cleansing campaign? Then why did Milan Martic on the 4 Aug 95 order "the evacuation of all persons incapable of military service from the Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Drnis and Gracac municipalities" if they were ethnically cleansed & not evacuated?

IAN UK, one last comment. If you're too stupid to ask, you're too stupid to know.

Mendo

pre 11 godina

IAN UK, one last comment. If you're too stupid to ask, you're too stupid to know.
(Aleks, 1 April 2013 00:32)

He will probably indicate in his next post that those who were not evacuated and were killed by Croatian forces, committed suicide. Ian, in which category you belong: you are patriot for sure but what about this other one? Expressing so much hate in your post against Serbs, does that qualifies you as nationalist? I just wonder why did you stop commenting on "new kosova report" website? There are not Serbs commenting there so they will not get offended by your anti Serbian posts? As it seems that is your main purpose mate.

Bush

pre 11 godina

I would say that these neo-Nazis have a lot in common with those who were in power in Belgrade when Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO. I would happily gave you many examples.
(Ian Bancroft, UK, 30 March 2013 20:38)

Our leaders were politician with many of those turned to become criminals. But Kosovo's one were terrorist and criminals turned to be politicians.

Pebbles

pre 11 godina

It appears the Serbs would love to bring back the laws once introducued by Serbian mastermind Milan NEDIC.
(Bam Bam, 2 April 2013 03:36)

Nedic is a nobody. Pavelic is your hero. You admitted yourself you want to raise your children in the NDH way. You're the last person with any right to judge Serbia you racist.