“We may give up on some conditions if Kosovo gets UN seat”

Listen Hans, thanks for your oh soooo generous offer to have the honour of being second class citizens (lap dogs) in your Fourth Reich club of unequals, but I think we're going to pass on it. We will keep Kosovo, and remain free and independent, and you will never, ever control Serbs the way you control our lap dog neighbours. We will always remain a bone in your throat, so take your 'offer' (which is just another ultimatum a la 1914) and shove it. Oh, and don't forget, Kosovo is Serbia!

Cheers!!

"The most important thing is to have the normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština that would make way for mutual respect which would later include Serbia’s consent to Kosovo’s UN seat."

Surprising that even some Germans seem not to know that it's not up to Serbia to have any 'consent' on an UN seat for Kosovo. It's the UNSC with the veto powers China and Russia that won't allow an ethnic minority living on the soil of a sovereign state which unilaterally declared an 'independent state' to become an UN member.

Sorry, but after the UDI, this won't happen. New states can emerge, but with a mutual consent, like South Sudan: This new state became an UN member after a week, without any need to 'buy recognitions' of other UN member states.

ahahahahahaha these people are just big jokes. Both the Serbian treasonous elite who aspire to join this failed organization, and of course those running it.

The descendants of the refugees from Hoxha's Albania who love Serbia so much they check B92 everyday would lead you to believe that "kosova is out of reach for Serbia". So why are you asking Serbia for KLA's UN seat?

If Serbia's opinion on this matter doesn't count then why not ask..Bahrain? Surely by Hoxha logic Serbia has as much say in all this as Bahrain does am I correct?

“The final say in Germany’s consent or refusal to grant Serbia a date (for the beginning of the EU accession talks) will not have the government or the Foreign Ministry, but we, the MPs,” he was quoted as saying."

"But we", who is saying this is one of about 3000 assistants to the MPs in the German Bundestag, nobody knows these persons working on time-limited contracts employed by the MPs, mainly fresh graduates from universities or political freinds looking only for a job. In Serbia such a nobody is important enough for an interview. If you see in the Bundestag during normal sessions only empty seats you can imagine what importnace can have Serbia. But this is a fatal error, the parliament will never duscuss a date for Serbia, possibly the Foreign committee will be infomed, but this is not sure. It is a technical question of the government. The government is conducting houndreds of such negotiations, and mainly of higher importance. The parliament would have no time to follow all these dates. This person who is for "Politka" important enough for an interview -you never can find in germany any interview with such an assistant, because there are so many MPs of real importance- would i normal countries seen as a crook. The Serbs are asking comments for such persons instead to follow their targets. Serbia is not in the position to bring Kosovo into the UN if Russia and/or China are in the UNSC against it. Serbia should stop is slave-attitude.

EU is broke is serbia that stupid are what? look at cyprus now.go with the brics way ,russia-china.not EU...

Kosovo as it is today, is already gone for you since 24 March 1999.You are one of the rare nations in the world who see its future in the past.. Therefore you are always right even when you kill other people.
(Tymi, 24 March 2013 19:32)

Who did we kill? Did we invade some other country, go halfway around the world to bomb and plunder foreign lands (like Germans, and NATO war criminals), or did we just defend our land from internal and external terrorists? I get a real kick out of myopic clowns like you who tell us Kosovo is lost 'forever' and we have to forget it and move on. We were in much, much, worse situations in our history, 500 years under the barbarian Turks, attacked by the Austro-Hunarian empire, attacked by Hitler and all his quislings (croats, bosnian muslims, albanians), and look what happened. We came out victorious each and every time. We will again? You think the bankrupt NATO war criminals will stay in Kosovo forever?? Really?? Think about it. Our job now is to wait it out, wait for the right time in the future, wait for our moment, and then we will liberate ALL of Kosovo from narco-terrorist organ snatchers. Time is on our side, and we aren't going anywhere, Kosovo is sovereign Serbian land, and there is a Russian veto which guarantees that for eternity.
And yes, thanks for noticing that we Serbs are indeed unique people. We are free and independent, and that's why the imperial war criminals and their jealous bootlicking servants don't like us.

Cheers!

I guess you call liberation wars killing innocent civilians, raping women, and expelling more than 800000 people in Kosova, and the massacres in Srebrenica and Dubrovnik. I got a clue for you, when more than 90% of population in a region becomes " Internal Terrorists", check your premises. You might be wrong.
(Brandon, 25 March 2013 12:16)

Where do I start? First off, the albanians in Kosovo did not flee until AFTER the NATO war criminals started illegaly bombing Serbia - that's a fact. Second, the KLA was deemed by your own CIA friends as terrorists - that's a fact too. They were going around killing policemen, mailmen, farmers working in the fields...basicaly anything Serbian. That's a fact, and that's pure terrorism. Any state has the right and a duty to put them down.
Third, Dubrovnik was a proven hoax, a joke! There was virtually no damage to the city, and the only damage there was due to the local ustashe cowards firing at Serb positions from inside the city, using civilians as human shields.
Fourth, Srebrenica were revenge killings for the massacres and mutilations done by Oric's butchers in the villages around Srebrenica.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/744158/posts
The anti-Serb NATO run kangaroo court released this war criminal, of course, because they know the truth and it is part of their big cover up. Let me know if you need more truth.
Cheers!!

Thank you for your comment Angela. It was really insightful and actually made me a little less worried.

......We will keep Kosovo, and remain free and independent........

Cheers!!
(Dragan, 24 March 2013 15:11)

Dragi Draga(an)!you (Serbia) will keep Kosovo.....only on paper (your constitution). But even this, according to some indication from Dacic will change soon. Kosovo as it is today, is already gone for you since 24 March 1999.You are one of the rare nations in the world who see its future in the past. You are self-brain-washed from your mythology and you will never learn, because you are like the African proverb "the faults and mistakes are like mountains. You sit on the top of yours and show with the finger to the others" The history was so unfair with you and you, only you saved this world. Therefore you are always right even when you kill other people.

Thank you for your comment Angela. It was really insightful and actually made me a little less worried"

Nobody in Serbia should be worried about other countries or its propaganda, BUT Serbs should be worried about its own elite and media. Sometimes it seems: the enemy is the own contry, not nice future for the Serb people.

Kosovo's UN seat doesn't depend just on Serbia's consent but certainly Serbia has a role in this. Anyway the Kosovo UN seat IS an important issue. And here Serbia has a strong card in its hand. Only a fool will give this card away.

But... with all its known and yet unknown consequences this whole case of negotiations, the contents and the results are of such importance that a wide acceptance by Serbian public must be behind it. No a single politician earns to get hanged whatever the final result. It's the majority of the people of Serbia that must carry the responsibility.

If any kind of a deal is better than no deal, go for it. But the people must take the responsibility.

The society is characterized by the way it takes care of its weakest. Who are the weakest? Common good often means sacrificing something. What is the common good? What can be sacrificed? What cannot be sacrified? Serbian people must answer to these questions.

Surprising that even some Germans seem not to know that it's not up to Serbia to have any 'consent' on an UN seat for Kosovo. It's the UNSC with the veto powers China and Russia that won't allow an ethnic minority living on the soil of a sovereign state which unilaterally declared an 'independent state' to become an UN member.

(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2013 15:37)

Russia uses its veto power in Kosovo case only in the sake of Serbia. So UN seat for Kosovo is up to Serbia. (Though i don't know about China's position).

Dragan,
I guess you call liberation wars killing innocent civilians, raping women, and expelling more than 800000 people in Kosova, and the massacres in Srebrenica and Dubrovnik. I got a clue for you, when more than 90% of population in a region becomes " Internal Terrorists", check your premises. You might be wrong.

The KLA were labelled as terrorist by the CIA simply because all information coming out of Yugo was filtered through the govt. It was not until places like Srebrenica that the world learned the real truth and as a result the CIA removed the label realizing that these people were fighting the oppression invoked on them by Serb/Yugo forces under the command of Milosevic.
(a New Day, 25 March 2013 20:30)

Your argument is humorous, and let me proceed to destroy it. Srebrenica happened in 1995. US envoy Robert Gelbard asserted that the KLA “is, without any questions, a terrorist group.” in February, 1998.
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/accomplice-war-kosovo
What other lies or fairy tales do you have for me to deconstruct and dismantle? Are you now going to tell me that your beloved KLA organ snatching islamo-fascist narco-terrorists are humanitarians who feed the poor? You're a joke. Keep trying though. I do enjoy exposing to all readers here what liars and propagandists all you terrorist supporting amateurs are.

Cheers!!

(Brandon, 25 March 2013 12:16)
Civil war is ugly and can not be justified. If you do not like Serbs, so be it, but why invent something which never occurred , like the massacre in Dubrovnik. That was simply not the truth. Take the dictionary and check the true meaning of the word.

"Russia uses its veto power in Kosovo case only in the sake of Serbia. "
(aaayyy, 24 March 2013 22:01)

Some Serbs believe so, but I think it's in Russia's own interest not to allow ethnic minorities to simply proclaim new states. In Russia, dozens of those ethnicities exists. The same goes for Spain with Catalans and Basques, it's not the love for Serbia no to accept an independent Kosovo.

And about China: Ever heard of Tibet?

I am sorry, but tie is bs. This guy has absolutely power in here in Germany, I never even heard his name before. It is nothing but the opinion of a " Hinterbaenkler", an unknown, unimportant politician here in Germany with no influence whatsoever. Stop quoting politicians who have no influence and idea what they even talk about in this matter.

Dragan... all the truths can be found at the Hague. Trial transcripts of convicted Serb War Criminals will educate you.

Let me know if you need more truth.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 25 March 2013 15:27)
I think the world has heard your truth's again and again but it will never cleanse the blood from your hands.
It is a fact that the bulk of people left Kosovo after the bombing started but not because of the bombing, but because Milosevic stepped up his operations to rid the Albanians from Kosovo during which little time he had.
The KLA were labelled as terrorist by the CIA simply because all information coming out of Yugo was filtered through the govt. It was not until places like Srebrenica that the world learned the real truth and as a result the CIA removed the label realizing that these people were fighting the oppression invoked on them by Serb/Yugo forces under the command of Milosevic.

(icj1, 26 March 2013 04:27)
Now where is that famous US industry? When is Ford goiong to open a plant in pristine or maybe Germany’s Seimens or VW?????
As far as Putin helping his citizens, Cyprus is a tax haven so stick to filling out forms for food vouchers as this is beyond you comprehension.

If any kind of a deal is better than no deal, go for it. But the people must take the responsibility"

No this is stupid: better a good as no deal, or better no deal as a bad deal. "The people" have ever the responsibilty with hunger, death or leaving the home. The people who signed the deals will not suffer at all.

I would be very wary of any comments made by the so called "Christian" parties in Germany. Germany is only interested in one thing - domination of Europe and the CDU/CSU parties are leading this attempted domination. In doing so, they are willing to say anything.

Some Serbs believe so, but I think it's in Russia's own interest not to allow ethnic minorities "

These are illusions, Russia and China could easily take a position of abstention from voting. They could allow Kosovo to become an UN-member without making any prejustice for their own territory. At the end both countries will "sell" their position in other deals with US/EU. This will happen when the Serb position will be further on unclear like now

"Russia uses its veto power in Kosovo case only in the sake of Serbia. So UN seat for Kosovo is up to Serbia. (Though i don't know about China's position).
(aaayyy, 24 March 2013 22:01) "

Yes, Russia has said many times it will support Serbia whatever it decides to do about Kosovo, and China only wants a solution that comes from dialog and negotiation rather than force, so it doesn't sound like there should be any problem there, either. China especially doesn't like being alone in its votes, and as the number of recognitions rises, the less happy they'll be about having to support you diplomatically.

The Germans are offering a trade - it might be a good idea for someone to talk to them and see exactly what they are willing to look through their fingers at in return for UN membership for Kosovo. It's bound to come in time, and if you wait too long, you'll get nothing for it. Right now, if the Germans are ready to make a deal about accession, you might get something to take the sting out of the agreement. Europeans don't value intransigence, cussedness, bloodymindedness, stubbornness ... all terms (there were more) being used to describe Cyprus, with its Balkan and Middle-East attitudes in Charlemagne's column in The Economist today. Sell what you've got - the ability to make everybody's life a little easier - at the best price you can get for it, while it still has some value.

BRENDA,
You are right, what serbs did in Dubrovnik pales in comparison to the event of Bosnia and Kosovo. I guess you guys have an high threshold for what the term massacre represents. Let me refresh your memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Dubrovnik
No I do not hate Serbs. I am able to distinguish between the people and the government. What I don't like is your tendency to deny the past event, and your inability to apologize for the past mistakes. At the end of the day, if we don't learn our history we are condemned to repeat it. And I don't see much of that history, that is worth repeating it.

EU is broke is serbia that stupid are what? look at cyprus now.go with the brics way ,russia-china.not EU...
(victor, 24 March 2013 21:02)

Yes, dear, Serbia is that stupid to rely on Russia... Yes, look at Cyprus, which begged Russia for money, but Russia showed it the door, even though a Russian loan would have helped Russian citizens (with deposits in Cyprus banks) in the first place - at the end Cyprus got the money from the bankrupt EU.

If Putin did not care to pay even for its own citizens, imagine what support Serbs can receive (of course, beside statements which I'm sure Putin will be happy to produce as many as Serbs wish since words don't cost anything and Serbs are known for buying without thinking whatever it's sold to them)...

Now where is that famous US industry? When is Ford goiong to open a plant in pristine or maybe Germany’s Seimens or VW?????
(sj, 26 March 2013 11:46)

Sorry, dear, but apparently you answered the wrong post. I said the following which has nothing to do with the above which, I’m sure, you are correct as CE of the B92 forums:
“Yes, dear, Serbia is that stupid to rely on Russia... Yes, look at Cyprus, which begged Russia for money, but Russia showed it the door, even though a Russian loan would have helped Russian citizens (with deposits in Cyprus banks) in the first place - at the end Cyprus got the money from the bankrupt EU.

If Putin did not care to pay even for its own citizens, imagine what support Serbs can receive (of course, beside statements which I'm sure Putin will be happy to produce as many as Serbs wish since words don't cost anything and Serbs are known for buying without thinking whatever it's sold to them)...’
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As far as Putin helping his citizens, Cyprus is a tax haven so stick to filling out forms for food vouchers as this is beyond you comprehension.
(sj, 26 March 2013 11:46)

I fully agree (as usual) with you… It is beyond my comprehension how Putin would help Serbs before Russians. But I do comprehend why Serbs still rely on Putin because he is happy to produce as many statements of support as Serbs wish since words don't cost anything and Serbs are known for buying whatever is sold to them

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Listen Hans, thanks for your oh soooo generous offer to have the honour of being second class citizens (lap dogs) in your Fourth Reich club of unequals, but I think we're going to pass on it. We will keep Kosovo, and remain free and independent, and you will never, ever control Serbs the way you control our lap dog neighbours. We will always remain a bone in your throat, so take your 'offer' (which is just another ultimatum a la 1914) and shove it. Oh, and don't forget, Kosovo is Serbia!

Cheers!!

ahahahahahaha these people are just big jokes. Both the Serbian treasonous elite who aspire to join this failed organization, and of course those running it.

The descendants of the refugees from Hoxha's Albania who love Serbia so much they check B92 everyday would lead you to believe that "kosova is out of reach for Serbia". So why are you asking Serbia for KLA's UN seat?

If Serbia's opinion on this matter doesn't count then why not ask..Bahrain? Surely by Hoxha logic Serbia has as much say in all this as Bahrain does am I correct?

......We will keep Kosovo, and remain free and independent........

Cheers!!
(Dragan, 24 March 2013 15:11)

Dragi Draga(an)!you (Serbia) will keep Kosovo.....only on paper (your constitution). But even this, according to some indication from Dacic will change soon. Kosovo as it is today, is already gone for you since 24 March 1999.You are one of the rare nations in the world who see its future in the past. You are self-brain-washed from your mythology and you will never learn, because you are like the African proverb "the faults and mistakes are like mountains. You sit on the top of yours and show with the finger to the others" The history was so unfair with you and you, only you saved this world. Therefore you are always right even when you kill other people.

"The most important thing is to have the normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština that would make way for mutual respect which would later include Serbia’s consent to Kosovo’s UN seat."

Surprising that even some Germans seem not to know that it's not up to Serbia to have any 'consent' on an UN seat for Kosovo. It's the UNSC with the veto powers China and Russia that won't allow an ethnic minority living on the soil of a sovereign state which unilaterally declared an 'independent state' to become an UN member.

Sorry, but after the UDI, this won't happen. New states can emerge, but with a mutual consent, like South Sudan: This new state became an UN member after a week, without any need to 'buy recognitions' of other UN member states.

Dragan,
I guess you call liberation wars killing innocent civilians, raping women, and expelling more than 800000 people in Kosova, and the massacres in Srebrenica and Dubrovnik. I got a clue for you, when more than 90% of population in a region becomes " Internal Terrorists", check your premises. You might be wrong.

I guess you call liberation wars killing innocent civilians, raping women, and expelling more than 800000 people in Kosova, and the massacres in Srebrenica and Dubrovnik. I got a clue for you, when more than 90% of population in a region becomes " Internal Terrorists", check your premises. You might be wrong.
(Brandon, 25 March 2013 12:16)

Where do I start? First off, the albanians in Kosovo did not flee until AFTER the NATO war criminals started illegaly bombing Serbia - that's a fact. Second, the KLA was deemed by your own CIA friends as terrorists - that's a fact too. They were going around killing policemen, mailmen, farmers working in the fields...basicaly anything Serbian. That's a fact, and that's pure terrorism. Any state has the right and a duty to put them down.
Third, Dubrovnik was a proven hoax, a joke! There was virtually no damage to the city, and the only damage there was due to the local ustashe cowards firing at Serb positions from inside the city, using civilians as human shields.
Fourth, Srebrenica were revenge killings for the massacres and mutilations done by Oric's butchers in the villages around Srebrenica.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/744158/posts
The anti-Serb NATO run kangaroo court released this war criminal, of course, because they know the truth and it is part of their big cover up. Let me know if you need more truth.
Cheers!!

Let me know if you need more truth.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 25 March 2013 15:27)
I think the world has heard your truth's again and again but it will never cleanse the blood from your hands.
It is a fact that the bulk of people left Kosovo after the bombing started but not because of the bombing, but because Milosevic stepped up his operations to rid the Albanians from Kosovo during which little time he had.
The KLA were labelled as terrorist by the CIA simply because all information coming out of Yugo was filtered through the govt. It was not until places like Srebrenica that the world learned the real truth and as a result the CIA removed the label realizing that these people were fighting the oppression invoked on them by Serb/Yugo forces under the command of Milosevic.

"Russia uses its veto power in Kosovo case only in the sake of Serbia. So UN seat for Kosovo is up to Serbia. (Though i don't know about China's position).
(aaayyy, 24 March 2013 22:01) "

Yes, Russia has said many times it will support Serbia whatever it decides to do about Kosovo, and China only wants a solution that comes from dialog and negotiation rather than force, so it doesn't sound like there should be any problem there, either. China especially doesn't like being alone in its votes, and as the number of recognitions rises, the less happy they'll be about having to support you diplomatically.

The Germans are offering a trade - it might be a good idea for someone to talk to them and see exactly what they are willing to look through their fingers at in return for UN membership for Kosovo. It's bound to come in time, and if you wait too long, you'll get nothing for it. Right now, if the Germans are ready to make a deal about accession, you might get something to take the sting out of the agreement. Europeans don't value intransigence, cussedness, bloodymindedness, stubbornness ... all terms (there were more) being used to describe Cyprus, with its Balkan and Middle-East attitudes in Charlemagne's column in The Economist today. Sell what you've got - the ability to make everybody's life a little easier - at the best price you can get for it, while it still has some value.

I am sorry, but tie is bs. This guy has absolutely power in here in Germany, I never even heard his name before. It is nothing but the opinion of a " Hinterbaenkler", an unknown, unimportant politician here in Germany with no influence whatsoever. Stop quoting politicians who have no influence and idea what they even talk about in this matter.

Dragan... all the truths can be found at the Hague. Trial transcripts of convicted Serb War Criminals will educate you.

BRENDA,
You are right, what serbs did in Dubrovnik pales in comparison to the event of Bosnia and Kosovo. I guess you guys have an high threshold for what the term massacre represents. Let me refresh your memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Dubrovnik
No I do not hate Serbs. I am able to distinguish between the people and the government. What I don't like is your tendency to deny the past event, and your inability to apologize for the past mistakes. At the end of the day, if we don't learn our history we are condemned to repeat it. And I don't see much of that history, that is worth repeating it.

“The final say in Germany’s consent or refusal to grant Serbia a date (for the beginning of the EU accession talks) will not have the government or the Foreign Ministry, but we, the MPs,” he was quoted as saying."

"But we", who is saying this is one of about 3000 assistants to the MPs in the German Bundestag, nobody knows these persons working on time-limited contracts employed by the MPs, mainly fresh graduates from universities or political freinds looking only for a job. In Serbia such a nobody is important enough for an interview. If you see in the Bundestag during normal sessions only empty seats you can imagine what importnace can have Serbia. But this is a fatal error, the parliament will never duscuss a date for Serbia, possibly the Foreign committee will be infomed, but this is not sure. It is a technical question of the government. The government is conducting houndreds of such negotiations, and mainly of higher importance. The parliament would have no time to follow all these dates. This person who is for "Politka" important enough for an interview -you never can find in germany any interview with such an assistant, because there are so many MPs of real importance- would i normal countries seen as a crook. The Serbs are asking comments for such persons instead to follow their targets. Serbia is not in the position to bring Kosovo into the UN if Russia and/or China are in the UNSC against it. Serbia should stop is slave-attitude.

Kosovo as it is today, is already gone for you since 24 March 1999.You are one of the rare nations in the world who see its future in the past.. Therefore you are always right even when you kill other people.
(Tymi, 24 March 2013 19:32)

Who did we kill? Did we invade some other country, go halfway around the world to bomb and plunder foreign lands (like Germans, and NATO war criminals), or did we just defend our land from internal and external terrorists? I get a real kick out of myopic clowns like you who tell us Kosovo is lost 'forever' and we have to forget it and move on. We were in much, much, worse situations in our history, 500 years under the barbarian Turks, attacked by the Austro-Hunarian empire, attacked by Hitler and all his quislings (croats, bosnian muslims, albanians), and look what happened. We came out victorious each and every time. We will again? You think the bankrupt NATO war criminals will stay in Kosovo forever?? Really?? Think about it. Our job now is to wait it out, wait for the right time in the future, wait for our moment, and then we will liberate ALL of Kosovo from narco-terrorist organ snatchers. Time is on our side, and we aren't going anywhere, Kosovo is sovereign Serbian land, and there is a Russian veto which guarantees that for eternity.
And yes, thanks for noticing that we Serbs are indeed unique people. We are free and independent, and that's why the imperial war criminals and their jealous bootlicking servants don't like us.

Cheers!

EU is broke is serbia that stupid are what? look at cyprus now.go with the brics way ,russia-china.not EU...
(victor, 24 March 2013 21:02)

Yes, dear, Serbia is that stupid to rely on Russia... Yes, look at Cyprus, which begged Russia for money, but Russia showed it the door, even though a Russian loan would have helped Russian citizens (with deposits in Cyprus banks) in the first place - at the end Cyprus got the money from the bankrupt EU.

If Putin did not care to pay even for its own citizens, imagine what support Serbs can receive (of course, beside statements which I'm sure Putin will be happy to produce as many as Serbs wish since words don't cost anything and Serbs are known for buying without thinking whatever it's sold to them)...

EU is broke is serbia that stupid are what? look at cyprus now.go with the brics way ,russia-china.not EU...

I would be very wary of any comments made by the so called "Christian" parties in Germany. Germany is only interested in one thing - domination of Europe and the CDU/CSU parties are leading this attempted domination. In doing so, they are willing to say anything.

Some Serbs believe so, but I think it's in Russia's own interest not to allow ethnic minorities "

These are illusions, Russia and China could easily take a position of abstention from voting. They could allow Kosovo to become an UN-member without making any prejustice for their own territory. At the end both countries will "sell" their position in other deals with US/EU. This will happen when the Serb position will be further on unclear like now

Thank you for your comment Angela. It was really insightful and actually made me a little less worried.

The KLA were labelled as terrorist by the CIA simply because all information coming out of Yugo was filtered through the govt. It was not until places like Srebrenica that the world learned the real truth and as a result the CIA removed the label realizing that these people were fighting the oppression invoked on them by Serb/Yugo forces under the command of Milosevic.
(a New Day, 25 March 2013 20:30)

Your argument is humorous, and let me proceed to destroy it. Srebrenica happened in 1995. US envoy Robert Gelbard asserted that the KLA “is, without any questions, a terrorist group.” in February, 1998.
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/accomplice-war-kosovo
What other lies or fairy tales do you have for me to deconstruct and dismantle? Are you now going to tell me that your beloved KLA organ snatching islamo-fascist narco-terrorists are humanitarians who feed the poor? You're a joke. Keep trying though. I do enjoy exposing to all readers here what liars and propagandists all you terrorist supporting amateurs are.

Cheers!!

Surprising that even some Germans seem not to know that it's not up to Serbia to have any 'consent' on an UN seat for Kosovo. It's the UNSC with the veto powers China and Russia that won't allow an ethnic minority living on the soil of a sovereign state which unilaterally declared an 'independent state' to become an UN member.

(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2013 15:37)

Russia uses its veto power in Kosovo case only in the sake of Serbia. So UN seat for Kosovo is up to Serbia. (Though i don't know about China's position).

(Brandon, 25 March 2013 12:16)
Civil war is ugly and can not be justified. If you do not like Serbs, so be it, but why invent something which never occurred , like the massacre in Dubrovnik. That was simply not the truth. Take the dictionary and check the true meaning of the word.

Kosovo's UN seat doesn't depend just on Serbia's consent but certainly Serbia has a role in this. Anyway the Kosovo UN seat IS an important issue. And here Serbia has a strong card in its hand. Only a fool will give this card away.

But... with all its known and yet unknown consequences this whole case of negotiations, the contents and the results are of such importance that a wide acceptance by Serbian public must be behind it. No a single politician earns to get hanged whatever the final result. It's the majority of the people of Serbia that must carry the responsibility.

If any kind of a deal is better than no deal, go for it. But the people must take the responsibility.

The society is characterized by the way it takes care of its weakest. Who are the weakest? Common good often means sacrificing something. What is the common good? What can be sacrificed? What cannot be sacrified? Serbian people must answer to these questions.

Thank you for your comment Angela. It was really insightful and actually made me a little less worried"

Nobody in Serbia should be worried about other countries or its propaganda, BUT Serbs should be worried about its own elite and media. Sometimes it seems: the enemy is the own contry, not nice future for the Serb people.

Now where is that famous US industry? When is Ford goiong to open a plant in pristine or maybe Germany’s Seimens or VW?????
(sj, 26 March 2013 11:46)

Sorry, dear, but apparently you answered the wrong post. I said the following which has nothing to do with the above which, I’m sure, you are correct as CE of the B92 forums:
“Yes, dear, Serbia is that stupid to rely on Russia... Yes, look at Cyprus, which begged Russia for money, but Russia showed it the door, even though a Russian loan would have helped Russian citizens (with deposits in Cyprus banks) in the first place - at the end Cyprus got the money from the bankrupt EU.

If Putin did not care to pay even for its own citizens, imagine what support Serbs can receive (of course, beside statements which I'm sure Putin will be happy to produce as many as Serbs wish since words don't cost anything and Serbs are known for buying without thinking whatever it's sold to them)...’
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As far as Putin helping his citizens, Cyprus is a tax haven so stick to filling out forms for food vouchers as this is beyond you comprehension.
(sj, 26 March 2013 11:46)

I fully agree (as usual) with you… It is beyond my comprehension how Putin would help Serbs before Russians. But I do comprehend why Serbs still rely on Putin because he is happy to produce as many statements of support as Serbs wish since words don't cost anything and Serbs are known for buying whatever is sold to them

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

If any kind of a deal is better than no deal, go for it. But the people must take the responsibility"

No this is stupid: better a good as no deal, or better no deal as a bad deal. "The people" have ever the responsibilty with hunger, death or leaving the home. The people who signed the deals will not suffer at all.

"Russia uses its veto power in Kosovo case only in the sake of Serbia. "
(aaayyy, 24 March 2013 22:01)

Some Serbs believe so, but I think it's in Russia's own interest not to allow ethnic minorities to simply proclaim new states. In Russia, dozens of those ethnicities exists. The same goes for Spain with Catalans and Basques, it's not the love for Serbia no to accept an independent Kosovo.

And about China: Ever heard of Tibet?

(icj1, 26 March 2013 04:27)
Now where is that famous US industry? When is Ford goiong to open a plant in pristine or maybe Germany’s Seimens or VW?????
As far as Putin helping his citizens, Cyprus is a tax haven so stick to filling out forms for food vouchers as this is beyond you comprehension.