When it is in his own interests, Dacic states that when speaking without a unified voice, "we are only harming our state and national interests”. This is the same guy who shoots his mouth off on a daily basis, with no regard about harm to the state or to national interests. There is no fool like a vain fool!
Just look at the newspapers from any country - people everywhere have different ideas about how the place should be governed"
But in all important countries there is unity about foreign policy main questions and also about the question what is the way of living - and this is not so in Serbia, you will never find a PM in such a delicate situation who make such bad comments about his own country what is untermining the position abroad and the feelings of the population, no other country is running behind a date, how you can solve historical disputes with the view on April 16th. Nobody would do this, how you can accept a mediator who is part of the problem and ally of the other side, how you can use as negotiator such unexperienced and weak persons like Dacic or Nikolic who would in many ountries more the subject for comedy shows on tv...it this the style of Dacic which is like a boy who has stolen something is looking for excuses and is trying to manipulate his family to hide the truth...how can you trust a PM who is responsible for a dangerous agriculture product crisis by solving it through increasing the limits for poisons within the milk, why the PM is travelling permanently to absolutely un-important meetings, why Dacic was not leaving the UNSC-meeting in the moment Thaci was blaming Serbia as "destructive" and claiming for "war compensation", why he has travveled together with this clear enemy of Serbia to New York and was having msall-alk after this hate-speech
"Seems like the cookie is crumbling! Serbian disunity rears its ugly head again. ...
(Captain America, 23 March 2013 16:38) "
What country is united? Just look at the newspapers from any country - people everywhere have different ideas about how the place should be governed. (You really don't have to look beyond the U.S. to see it.) The Serbs are in an impossible situation, and it really doesn't matter what sacrificial lamb they send out to represent them, there simply isn't all that much he can get. Would Kostunica with all his truculence do any better? (My guess - probably significantly worse.) Tadic might have gotten a little bit more, but nothing the Other Side thinks is significant, and in any case, he'd be called a traitor for every concession he didn't get. Personalities don't count here, the relevant strength of the two sides does, and Kosovo has allies on its side, allies who have seen what a determined politician can do to wreck a country he doesn't want to be a part of. They're in no mood to set up Kosovo to fail, not after all the time they've invested already.
Yes, you're right. At the time being I'm not living in Serbia. You are also right in saying that the mentioned fact affects my thinking. But you're wrong in suggesting I would call a Serb - no matter where he/she lives - UNSERBIAN if thinking differently than me. You simply allowed your imagination to take over.
You see me as a person who has "nothing to lose in the deal". Well, the deal or no deal wouldn't directly affect me, only my family members. But how about you, do you think of them who would be strongly affected by "the deal". (Now we suppose, I guess, that the deal is such what Kosovo Serbs would reject.) To me it looks like you don't mind much about the will of the Kosovo Serbs, or how they see their future. You are interested in your own "better life" and accept any deal that opens path to the EU negotiations. Selling away a part of citizenry seems to be O.K.
I'm for a deal that offers chance to "better life" without selling anyone. But rejecting a bad deal doesn't mean that Serbian people are "left behind to remain in economic and cultural isolation". Serbia has all chances to make agreements (with the EU) that support its economy and culture no matter is it a candidate or a member of the EU. You only need brains to do that. But brains you'll need in any case, even if you are in the EU.
I agree with Dacic on this article. People who can do it better should just run for political offices or leave Serbia. Just negative gripping all the time. Someone needs to pull Serbia out of the black hole it is in - so let Germany help with the people in the current government. The West was done with this along time ago. Kosovo is gone - and you people degrade and continue with your negative comments - dont you want something better for Serbia by now?????? Really - who would even want that job.
Seems like the man is a pudding...a failure of a negotiator to the point that it is unbelievable !?!?....send Vojislav Seselj please !!!!
PS: he is still in the Hague after ten years!!! which is a disgrace of justice,and he is being kept there so he would not be in politics and protect legitimate Serbian interest...
Dacic is always speaking about excuses, excuses only. If he cannot find the solution to the problem, he should let someone else do his job. Or is he getting afraid that he might loose his position and end up in jail?
If this is the case, maybe the talks should be postponed until internally displaced peoples of Serbian origin are repatriated back to their homes. I believe the estimate is 250k IDP's or so. Once that is accomplished and the goodwill of Kosovars is shown, maybe then Serbs can renegotiate. Now is not the time to join the EU. The EU speaks in multiple languages, but ultimately they mean the same thing.... give up Kosovo so that Serbia can never be an economic threat.
(Radovan, 23 March 2013 16:12)
You should be hoping that Serbia, can somehow become economically stable! Your Fantasies & notions , of a Serbia being some kind of economic threat towards another, is a preposterous statement! But then again, you are Serbian, right? You people are a old, very olddddd joke, I'm seriously not joking, the things and points you people come up with? No wonder, Serbia finds itself in the position it does!!!
“We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out.
If this is the case, maybe the talks should be postponed until internally displaced peoples of Serbian origin are repatriated back to their homes. I believe the estimate is 250k IDP's or so. Once that is accomplished and the goodwill of Kosovars is shown, maybe then Serbs can renegotiate. Now is not the time to join the EU. The EU speaks in multiple languages, but ultimately they mean the same thing.... give up Kosovo so that Serbia can never be an economic threat.
Rocky, where has Serbia ever stated that it wants to govern Kosovo anymore? What are you talking about? Serbia is trying to secure the best possible conditions and safeguards for the remaining Serbian municipalities, with as little as possible interaction by Pristina. As for Albanian Kosovo joining the EU quickly, I think they are, safe to say, decades away from that, if ever. Just look around next time you are KiM, and ask yourself, it this place really EU material?
Seems like the cookie is crumbling! Serbian disunity rears its ugly head again. Seriously, one doesn't even need to fight serbs with weapons because serbs defeat themselves from within. This is precisely how Serbians are always losers.
We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out. Well, Mr. Dacic, Serbia is in this friendless position because of policies that your mentor, Mr. Milosevic put in places, along with his friends from the radical party. The same people that are responsible for destroying Serbia, are now faed with the task of putting together the shattered pieces. You are certainly not the right person for the job, alone side all the rest of the political mafia now in power, that has taken Serbia captive, squeezing the life out of it. What makes you people think that you should be in power your entire lives, especially when your political careers have been disasters for the nation?
Meantime Serbia can sign agreements with the EU on many fields, supporting its economical and cultural co-existance with the EU.
Let time do its work.
(Olli, 23 March 2013 13:51)
Yes, Serbia can take its time, in the meanwhile the EU will strategically change its policy, allowing a expedited EU membership to Kosova! While in the meanwhile, Serbia's economy will continue to suffer & crumble further! You people just don't get it, understand this, you will never again see a Serbia controlling or governing Kosova again, this I whole heartily promise you! Maybe in 200 years or so? But before then, only a delusional fool would dare think of such a scenario becoming reality! Democracy, is the "world order" my Freinds & foes! And, it will be the "world order" for a very long time to come!!!
Let time do its work.
(Olli, 23 March 2013 13:51)
Considering you are writing on the English version site pretty well indicates you are living abroad and not in Serbia.
It is always amusing to read the"If I were in charge" ramblings from people who have nothing to lose in the deal. The ones who have no economic investment nor does their decision making affect their children and their childrens children. The ones who will be insulated from any negative coming from their decisions. The ones who are probably living where they do because they or their family left Serbia for a chance of a better life but condemn those left behind to remain in economic and cultural isolation. Those who think that it is UNSERBIAN for those affected to want a better life.
So, what to do? The question isn't about economics only. I'd say the key issue is whether Serbia listens to Kosovo Serbs or not, whether Serbia defends and safe quards its citezens or not. There are states in this world that send their army to the other side of the world to defend their people, without asking permission from anyone. There are states that have written in their laws that they have rights to defend their people anywhere in this world. These states often claim themselves as examples of high morals and human rights.
Now Serbia need not to go anywhere with its army. It can support its people diplomatically. Being diplomatic doesn't mean you bow to every direction and say yes to whatever you are asked about. If negotiations with Prishtina will not bring satisfactory result, and open path to the EU negotiations, it naturally is a setback. But not only to Serbia; Kosovo will suffer from this even more.
If I was Serbia's chief negotiator I would thank mediator and the other side, explain why I don't accept the suggested deal. The EU, and Prishtina, would naturally swear four letter words. I would reply that whenever they suggest new rounds of talks we would appear only if not starting from the same standings anymore. There are politicians in Europe who do understand straight talk.
Meantime Serbia can sign agreements with the EU on many fields, supporting its economical and cultural co-existance with the EU.
Yes, he is completely right. Mr. Vucic is the right person capable to finish the job started and unfortunately Mr. Dacic is one of the great mistakes. Not capable and worthy of being PM.
“Everybody is aware that Serbia will be the one to blame if the agreement is not reached,” Dačić said,"
Who is aware and why? This could understand as invitation to Prishtina to demand more because Serbia has to agree not to be blamed for a failure of an agreement. With such statements like Dacic is permanently giving no active policy is possible, not abroad and not within Serbia.
Serbis endless complaints are making the people nervous. On the other side Vucic was speaking in Berlin about "his friend" next to merkel, and Dacic has done the same in Washington and Nikolic...better to be quiet.
The word friend is for Serbs something empty to use too often without any reason. And later they are wondering that they have no real friends. Ask in Belgrade all the retired former YU-diplomats and many others where are are real freinds who would be happy to support Serbia with ideas and proposals instead to look for friends where no friends are. Serbia must learn that the bombing by the NATO was not a misunderstandig, it was a strategic decision. Serbia can have correct normal relations with these states but not more. The stae Albania is a member of NATO what means like Croatia a real partner and friend. Look on the latest deal between US and Alban ia concerning the opposition from Iran. Therefore its funny how happy Serbs are about the return of former US-ambassador Munter who was never a friend of Serbia.
"We do not have anyone to rely on in the talks. We have no one to consult"
Ask the Serbs first and the friends in Moscow or China or...dont waste time with Washingtons prayers breakfasts
“We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out.
Primitive lying: its a consequence of the hate from WW1 and WW2 and and
"According to him, the talks in Brussels need to continue and a serious step toward a compromise needs to be made."
But with passion and not for any prize.
" we need to have a proposal that could adequately solve...” the Serbian PM pointed out."
No, Serbia doesnt need a "proposal", it needs first its own firm position what it wants and what not. Make your homework by your own.
"He said that it was necessary to do a “comprehensive analysis”
empty words, this should be done earlier
“Everybody is aware that Serbia will be the one to blame if the agreement is not reached,” Dačić said, adding that if no deal was reached, “it will mean the end of a chance to get a date for the start of the EU accession talks this year”.
Why Serbia should be blamed and by whom? And what is the problem to start the EU-talks next year or later? These talks will be held over many years. Its sometimes not bad to wait a little for a better deal.
"We do not have anyone to rely on in the talks. We have no one to consult"
Ask the Serbs first and the friends in Moscow or China or...dont waste time with Washingtons prayers breakfasts
“We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out.
Primitive lying: its a consequence of the hate from WW1 and WW2 and and
"According to him, the talks in Brussels need to continue and a serious step toward a compromise needs to be made."
But with passion and not for any prize.
" we need to have a proposal that could adequately solve...” the Serbian PM pointed out."
No, Serbia doesnt need a "proposal", it needs first its own firm position what it wants and what not. Make your homework by your own.
"He said that it was necessary to do a “comprehensive analysis”
empty words, this should be done earlier
“Everybody is aware that Serbia will be the one to blame if the agreement is not reached,” Dačić said, adding that if no deal was reached, “it will mean the end of a chance to get a date for the start of the EU accession talks this year”.
Why Serbia should be blamed and by whom? And what is the problem to start the EU-talks next year or later? These talks will be held over many years. Its sometimes not bad to wait a little for a better deal.
Meantime Serbia can sign agreements with the EU on many fields, supporting its economical and cultural co-existance with the EU.
Let time do its work.
(Olli, 23 March 2013 13:51)
Yes, Serbia can take its time, in the meanwhile the EU will strategically change its policy, allowing a expedited EU membership to Kosova! While in the meanwhile, Serbia's economy will continue to suffer & crumble further! You people just don't get it, understand this, you will never again see a Serbia controlling or governing Kosova again, this I whole heartily promise you! Maybe in 200 years or so? But before then, only a delusional fool would dare think of such a scenario becoming reality! Democracy, is the "world order" my Freinds & foes! And, it will be the "world order" for a very long time to come!!!
We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out. Well, Mr. Dacic, Serbia is in this friendless position because of policies that your mentor, Mr. Milosevic put in places, along with his friends from the radical party. The same people that are responsible for destroying Serbia, are now faed with the task of putting together the shattered pieces. You are certainly not the right person for the job, alone side all the rest of the political mafia now in power, that has taken Serbia captive, squeezing the life out of it. What makes you people think that you should be in power your entire lives, especially when your political careers have been disasters for the nation?
If this is the case, maybe the talks should be postponed until internally displaced peoples of Serbian origin are repatriated back to their homes. I believe the estimate is 250k IDP's or so. Once that is accomplished and the goodwill of Kosovars is shown, maybe then Serbs can renegotiate. Now is not the time to join the EU. The EU speaks in multiple languages, but ultimately they mean the same thing.... give up Kosovo so that Serbia can never be an economic threat.
(Radovan, 23 March 2013 16:12)
You should be hoping that Serbia, can somehow become economically stable! Your Fantasies & notions , of a Serbia being some kind of economic threat towards another, is a preposterous statement! But then again, you are Serbian, right? You people are a old, very olddddd joke, I'm seriously not joking, the things and points you people come up with? No wonder, Serbia finds itself in the position it does!!!
So, what to do? The question isn't about economics only. I'd say the key issue is whether Serbia listens to Kosovo Serbs or not, whether Serbia defends and safe quards its citezens or not. There are states in this world that send their army to the other side of the world to defend their people, without asking permission from anyone. There are states that have written in their laws that they have rights to defend their people anywhere in this world. These states often claim themselves as examples of high morals and human rights.
Now Serbia need not to go anywhere with its army. It can support its people diplomatically. Being diplomatic doesn't mean you bow to every direction and say yes to whatever you are asked about. If negotiations with Prishtina will not bring satisfactory result, and open path to the EU negotiations, it naturally is a setback. But not only to Serbia; Kosovo will suffer from this even more.
If I was Serbia's chief negotiator I would thank mediator and the other side, explain why I don't accept the suggested deal. The EU, and Prishtina, would naturally swear four letter words. I would reply that whenever they suggest new rounds of talks we would appear only if not starting from the same standings anymore. There are politicians in Europe who do understand straight talk.
Meantime Serbia can sign agreements with the EU on many fields, supporting its economical and cultural co-existance with the EU.
“We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out.
If this is the case, maybe the talks should be postponed until internally displaced peoples of Serbian origin are repatriated back to their homes. I believe the estimate is 250k IDP's or so. Once that is accomplished and the goodwill of Kosovars is shown, maybe then Serbs can renegotiate. Now is not the time to join the EU. The EU speaks in multiple languages, but ultimately they mean the same thing.... give up Kosovo so that Serbia can never be an economic threat.
“Everybody is aware that Serbia will be the one to blame if the agreement is not reached,” Dačić said,"
Who is aware and why? This could understand as invitation to Prishtina to demand more because Serbia has to agree not to be blamed for a failure of an agreement. With such statements like Dacic is permanently giving no active policy is possible, not abroad and not within Serbia.
Serbis endless complaints are making the people nervous. On the other side Vucic was speaking in Berlin about "his friend" next to merkel, and Dacic has done the same in Washington and Nikolic...better to be quiet.
The word friend is for Serbs something empty to use too often without any reason. And later they are wondering that they have no real friends. Ask in Belgrade all the retired former YU-diplomats and many others where are are real freinds who would be happy to support Serbia with ideas and proposals instead to look for friends where no friends are. Serbia must learn that the bombing by the NATO was not a misunderstandig, it was a strategic decision. Serbia can have correct normal relations with these states but not more. The stae Albania is a member of NATO what means like Croatia a real partner and friend. Look on the latest deal between US and Alban ia concerning the opposition from Iran. Therefore its funny how happy Serbs are about the return of former US-ambassador Munter who was never a friend of Serbia.
I agree with Dacic on this article. People who can do it better should just run for political offices or leave Serbia. Just negative gripping all the time. Someone needs to pull Serbia out of the black hole it is in - so let Germany help with the people in the current government. The West was done with this along time ago. Kosovo is gone - and you people degrade and continue with your negative comments - dont you want something better for Serbia by now?????? Really - who would even want that job.
Let time do its work.
(Olli, 23 March 2013 13:51)
Considering you are writing on the English version site pretty well indicates you are living abroad and not in Serbia.
It is always amusing to read the"If I were in charge" ramblings from people who have nothing to lose in the deal. The ones who have no economic investment nor does their decision making affect their children and their childrens children. The ones who will be insulated from any negative coming from their decisions. The ones who are probably living where they do because they or their family left Serbia for a chance of a better life but condemn those left behind to remain in economic and cultural isolation. Those who think that it is UNSERBIAN for those affected to want a better life.
Seems like the cookie is crumbling! Serbian disunity rears its ugly head again. Seriously, one doesn't even need to fight serbs with weapons because serbs defeat themselves from within. This is precisely how Serbians are always losers.
"Seems like the cookie is crumbling! Serbian disunity rears its ugly head again. ...
(Captain America, 23 March 2013 16:38) "
What country is united? Just look at the newspapers from any country - people everywhere have different ideas about how the place should be governed. (You really don't have to look beyond the U.S. to see it.) The Serbs are in an impossible situation, and it really doesn't matter what sacrificial lamb they send out to represent them, there simply isn't all that much he can get. Would Kostunica with all his truculence do any better? (My guess - probably significantly worse.) Tadic might have gotten a little bit more, but nothing the Other Side thinks is significant, and in any case, he'd be called a traitor for every concession he didn't get. Personalities don't count here, the relevant strength of the two sides does, and Kosovo has allies on its side, allies who have seen what a determined politician can do to wreck a country he doesn't want to be a part of. They're in no mood to set up Kosovo to fail, not after all the time they've invested already.
Seems like the man is a pudding...a failure of a negotiator to the point that it is unbelievable !?!?....send Vojislav Seselj please !!!!
PS: he is still in the Hague after ten years!!! which is a disgrace of justice,and he is being kept there so he would not be in politics and protect legitimate Serbian interest...
Rocky, where has Serbia ever stated that it wants to govern Kosovo anymore? What are you talking about? Serbia is trying to secure the best possible conditions and safeguards for the remaining Serbian municipalities, with as little as possible interaction by Pristina. As for Albanian Kosovo joining the EU quickly, I think they are, safe to say, decades away from that, if ever. Just look around next time you are KiM, and ask yourself, it this place really EU material?
Yes, he is completely right. Mr. Vucic is the right person capable to finish the job started and unfortunately Mr. Dacic is one of the great mistakes. Not capable and worthy of being PM.
Dacic is always speaking about excuses, excuses only. If he cannot find the solution to the problem, he should let someone else do his job. Or is he getting afraid that he might loose his position and end up in jail?
Yes, you're right. At the time being I'm not living in Serbia. You are also right in saying that the mentioned fact affects my thinking. But you're wrong in suggesting I would call a Serb - no matter where he/she lives - UNSERBIAN if thinking differently than me. You simply allowed your imagination to take over.
You see me as a person who has "nothing to lose in the deal". Well, the deal or no deal wouldn't directly affect me, only my family members. But how about you, do you think of them who would be strongly affected by "the deal". (Now we suppose, I guess, that the deal is such what Kosovo Serbs would reject.) To me it looks like you don't mind much about the will of the Kosovo Serbs, or how they see their future. You are interested in your own "better life" and accept any deal that opens path to the EU negotiations. Selling away a part of citizenry seems to be O.K.
I'm for a deal that offers chance to "better life" without selling anyone. But rejecting a bad deal doesn't mean that Serbian people are "left behind to remain in economic and cultural isolation". Serbia has all chances to make agreements (with the EU) that support its economy and culture no matter is it a candidate or a member of the EU. You only need brains to do that. But brains you'll need in any case, even if you are in the EU.
Just look at the newspapers from any country - people everywhere have different ideas about how the place should be governed"
But in all important countries there is unity about foreign policy main questions and also about the question what is the way of living - and this is not so in Serbia, you will never find a PM in such a delicate situation who make such bad comments about his own country what is untermining the position abroad and the feelings of the population, no other country is running behind a date, how you can solve historical disputes with the view on April 16th. Nobody would do this, how you can accept a mediator who is part of the problem and ally of the other side, how you can use as negotiator such unexperienced and weak persons like Dacic or Nikolic who would in many ountries more the subject for comedy shows on tv...it this the style of Dacic which is like a boy who has stolen something is looking for excuses and is trying to manipulate his family to hide the truth...how can you trust a PM who is responsible for a dangerous agriculture product crisis by solving it through increasing the limits for poisons within the milk, why the PM is travelling permanently to absolutely un-important meetings, why Dacic was not leaving the UNSC-meeting in the moment Thaci was blaming Serbia as "destructive" and claiming for "war compensation", why he has travveled together with this clear enemy of Serbia to New York and was having msall-alk after this hate-speech
When it is in his own interests, Dacic states that when speaking without a unified voice, "we are only harming our state and national interests”. This is the same guy who shoots his mouth off on a daily basis, with no regard about harm to the state or to national interests. There is no fool like a vain fool!
Yes, he is completely right. Mr. Vucic is the right person capable to finish the job started and unfortunately Mr. Dacic is one of the great mistakes. Not capable and worthy of being PM.
Meantime Serbia can sign agreements with the EU on many fields, supporting its economical and cultural co-existance with the EU.
Let time do its work.
(Olli, 23 March 2013 13:51)
Yes, Serbia can take its time, in the meanwhile the EU will strategically change its policy, allowing a expedited EU membership to Kosova! While in the meanwhile, Serbia's economy will continue to suffer & crumble further! You people just don't get it, understand this, you will never again see a Serbia controlling or governing Kosova again, this I whole heartily promise you! Maybe in 200 years or so? But before then, only a delusional fool would dare think of such a scenario becoming reality! Democracy, is the "world order" my Freinds & foes! And, it will be the "world order" for a very long time to come!!!
Dacic is always speaking about excuses, excuses only. If he cannot find the solution to the problem, he should let someone else do his job. Or is he getting afraid that he might loose his position and end up in jail?
"We do not have anyone to rely on in the talks. We have no one to consult"
Ask the Serbs first and the friends in Moscow or China or...dont waste time with Washingtons prayers breakfasts
“We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out.
Primitive lying: its a consequence of the hate from WW1 and WW2 and and
"According to him, the talks in Brussels need to continue and a serious step toward a compromise needs to be made."
But with passion and not for any prize.
" we need to have a proposal that could adequately solve...” the Serbian PM pointed out."
No, Serbia doesnt need a "proposal", it needs first its own firm position what it wants and what not. Make your homework by your own.
"He said that it was necessary to do a “comprehensive analysis”
empty words, this should be done earlier
“Everybody is aware that Serbia will be the one to blame if the agreement is not reached,” Dačić said, adding that if no deal was reached, “it will mean the end of a chance to get a date for the start of the EU accession talks this year”.
Why Serbia should be blamed and by whom? And what is the problem to start the EU-talks next year or later? These talks will be held over many years. Its sometimes not bad to wait a little for a better deal.
“We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out.
If this is the case, maybe the talks should be postponed until internally displaced peoples of Serbian origin are repatriated back to their homes. I believe the estimate is 250k IDP's or so. Once that is accomplished and the goodwill of Kosovars is shown, maybe then Serbs can renegotiate. Now is not the time to join the EU. The EU speaks in multiple languages, but ultimately they mean the same thing.... give up Kosovo so that Serbia can never be an economic threat.
Rocky, where has Serbia ever stated that it wants to govern Kosovo anymore? What are you talking about? Serbia is trying to secure the best possible conditions and safeguards for the remaining Serbian municipalities, with as little as possible interaction by Pristina. As for Albanian Kosovo joining the EU quickly, I think they are, safe to say, decades away from that, if ever. Just look around next time you are KiM, and ask yourself, it this place really EU material?
We have almost no powerful friend in the West and this is a consequence of what has been happening in the last several decades,” the prime minister pointed out. Well, Mr. Dacic, Serbia is in this friendless position because of policies that your mentor, Mr. Milosevic put in places, along with his friends from the radical party. The same people that are responsible for destroying Serbia, are now faed with the task of putting together the shattered pieces. You are certainly not the right person for the job, alone side all the rest of the political mafia now in power, that has taken Serbia captive, squeezing the life out of it. What makes you people think that you should be in power your entire lives, especially when your political careers have been disasters for the nation?
Seems like the man is a pudding...a failure of a negotiator to the point that it is unbelievable !?!?....send Vojislav Seselj please !!!!
PS: he is still in the Hague after ten years!!! which is a disgrace of justice,and he is being kept there so he would not be in politics and protect legitimate Serbian interest...
“Everybody is aware that Serbia will be the one to blame if the agreement is not reached,” Dačić said,"
Who is aware and why? This could understand as invitation to Prishtina to demand more because Serbia has to agree not to be blamed for a failure of an agreement. With such statements like Dacic is permanently giving no active policy is possible, not abroad and not within Serbia.
Serbis endless complaints are making the people nervous. On the other side Vucic was speaking in Berlin about "his friend" next to merkel, and Dacic has done the same in Washington and Nikolic...better to be quiet.
The word friend is for Serbs something empty to use too often without any reason. And later they are wondering that they have no real friends. Ask in Belgrade all the retired former YU-diplomats and many others where are are real freinds who would be happy to support Serbia with ideas and proposals instead to look for friends where no friends are. Serbia must learn that the bombing by the NATO was not a misunderstandig, it was a strategic decision. Serbia can have correct normal relations with these states but not more. The stae Albania is a member of NATO what means like Croatia a real partner and friend. Look on the latest deal between US and Alban ia concerning the opposition from Iran. Therefore its funny how happy Serbs are about the return of former US-ambassador Munter who was never a friend of Serbia.
So, what to do? The question isn't about economics only. I'd say the key issue is whether Serbia listens to Kosovo Serbs or not, whether Serbia defends and safe quards its citezens or not. There are states in this world that send their army to the other side of the world to defend their people, without asking permission from anyone. There are states that have written in their laws that they have rights to defend their people anywhere in this world. These states often claim themselves as examples of high morals and human rights.
Now Serbia need not to go anywhere with its army. It can support its people diplomatically. Being diplomatic doesn't mean you bow to every direction and say yes to whatever you are asked about. If negotiations with Prishtina will not bring satisfactory result, and open path to the EU negotiations, it naturally is a setback. But not only to Serbia; Kosovo will suffer from this even more.
If I was Serbia's chief negotiator I would thank mediator and the other side, explain why I don't accept the suggested deal. The EU, and Prishtina, would naturally swear four letter words. I would reply that whenever they suggest new rounds of talks we would appear only if not starting from the same standings anymore. There are politicians in Europe who do understand straight talk.
Meantime Serbia can sign agreements with the EU on many fields, supporting its economical and cultural co-existance with the EU.
If this is the case, maybe the talks should be postponed until internally displaced peoples of Serbian origin are repatriated back to their homes. I believe the estimate is 250k IDP's or so. Once that is accomplished and the goodwill of Kosovars is shown, maybe then Serbs can renegotiate. Now is not the time to join the EU. The EU speaks in multiple languages, but ultimately they mean the same thing.... give up Kosovo so that Serbia can never be an economic threat.
(Radovan, 23 March 2013 16:12)
You should be hoping that Serbia, can somehow become economically stable! Your Fantasies & notions , of a Serbia being some kind of economic threat towards another, is a preposterous statement! But then again, you are Serbian, right? You people are a old, very olddddd joke, I'm seriously not joking, the things and points you people come up with? No wonder, Serbia finds itself in the position it does!!!
Seems like the cookie is crumbling! Serbian disunity rears its ugly head again. Seriously, one doesn't even need to fight serbs with weapons because serbs defeat themselves from within. This is precisely how Serbians are always losers.
I agree with Dacic on this article. People who can do it better should just run for political offices or leave Serbia. Just negative gripping all the time. Someone needs to pull Serbia out of the black hole it is in - so let Germany help with the people in the current government. The West was done with this along time ago. Kosovo is gone - and you people degrade and continue with your negative comments - dont you want something better for Serbia by now?????? Really - who would even want that job.
Let time do its work.
(Olli, 23 March 2013 13:51)
Considering you are writing on the English version site pretty well indicates you are living abroad and not in Serbia.
It is always amusing to read the"If I were in charge" ramblings from people who have nothing to lose in the deal. The ones who have no economic investment nor does their decision making affect their children and their childrens children. The ones who will be insulated from any negative coming from their decisions. The ones who are probably living where they do because they or their family left Serbia for a chance of a better life but condemn those left behind to remain in economic and cultural isolation. Those who think that it is UNSERBIAN for those affected to want a better life.
Yes, you're right. At the time being I'm not living in Serbia. You are also right in saying that the mentioned fact affects my thinking. But you're wrong in suggesting I would call a Serb - no matter where he/she lives - UNSERBIAN if thinking differently than me. You simply allowed your imagination to take over.
You see me as a person who has "nothing to lose in the deal". Well, the deal or no deal wouldn't directly affect me, only my family members. But how about you, do you think of them who would be strongly affected by "the deal". (Now we suppose, I guess, that the deal is such what Kosovo Serbs would reject.) To me it looks like you don't mind much about the will of the Kosovo Serbs, or how they see their future. You are interested in your own "better life" and accept any deal that opens path to the EU negotiations. Selling away a part of citizenry seems to be O.K.
I'm for a deal that offers chance to "better life" without selling anyone. But rejecting a bad deal doesn't mean that Serbian people are "left behind to remain in economic and cultural isolation". Serbia has all chances to make agreements (with the EU) that support its economy and culture no matter is it a candidate or a member of the EU. You only need brains to do that. But brains you'll need in any case, even if you are in the EU.
"Seems like the cookie is crumbling! Serbian disunity rears its ugly head again. ...
(Captain America, 23 March 2013 16:38) "
What country is united? Just look at the newspapers from any country - people everywhere have different ideas about how the place should be governed. (You really don't have to look beyond the U.S. to see it.) The Serbs are in an impossible situation, and it really doesn't matter what sacrificial lamb they send out to represent them, there simply isn't all that much he can get. Would Kostunica with all his truculence do any better? (My guess - probably significantly worse.) Tadic might have gotten a little bit more, but nothing the Other Side thinks is significant, and in any case, he'd be called a traitor for every concession he didn't get. Personalities don't count here, the relevant strength of the two sides does, and Kosovo has allies on its side, allies who have seen what a determined politician can do to wreck a country he doesn't want to be a part of. They're in no mood to set up Kosovo to fail, not after all the time they've invested already.
Just look at the newspapers from any country - people everywhere have different ideas about how the place should be governed"
But in all important countries there is unity about foreign policy main questions and also about the question what is the way of living - and this is not so in Serbia, you will never find a PM in such a delicate situation who make such bad comments about his own country what is untermining the position abroad and the feelings of the population, no other country is running behind a date, how you can solve historical disputes with the view on April 16th. Nobody would do this, how you can accept a mediator who is part of the problem and ally of the other side, how you can use as negotiator such unexperienced and weak persons like Dacic or Nikolic who would in many ountries more the subject for comedy shows on tv...it this the style of Dacic which is like a boy who has stolen something is looking for excuses and is trying to manipulate his family to hide the truth...how can you trust a PM who is responsible for a dangerous agriculture product crisis by solving it through increasing the limits for poisons within the milk, why the PM is travelling permanently to absolutely un-important meetings, why Dacic was not leaving the UNSC-meeting in the moment Thaci was blaming Serbia as "destructive" and claiming for "war compensation", why he has travveled together with this clear enemy of Serbia to New York and was having msall-alk after this hate-speech
When it is in his own interests, Dacic states that when speaking without a unified voice, "we are only harming our state and national interests”. This is the same guy who shoots his mouth off on a daily basis, with no regard about harm to the state or to national interests. There is no fool like a vain fool!
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