Yet Serbia is negotiating to join the Eu and Albania is not. Don't you sometimes wonder why?
(Tom Tom, 20 March 2013 23:26)
Serbia is negotiating with the EU? I thought Serbia was trying its hardest to get a date to start negotiating with the EU, hence all the news articles for the last two years.
The bomb was not thrown at the police station intentionally. It was just some Albanian kids playing pitcher and cather, and one of them was throwing like a girl, and missed. I hear that American baseball has become very popular now with the Albanian kids in Kosovo in the last 10 years. Why in the world would anyone in Kosovo want to throw a bomb at a police station, ridiculous.
-ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact.
Nikolle
Yet Serbia is negotiating to join the Eu and Albania is not. Don't you sometimes wonder why?
the Hague tribunal begs to differ :-)
(Nikolle, 20 March 2013 19:1
Swedish police, German police, Greek police, Swiss police, Italian police, and the rest of european police departmenst beg to differ. 75%of the prisoners in their prisons are albanians just like that murderer that took 5 hostages in a greek prison a couple of days ago. 100%albanian.
Europe[edit] BelgiumIn 1989, Belgian Prime Minister Paul Vanden Boeynants was kidnapped in a plot organized by Basri Bajrami. Bajrami was acknowledged by authorities as a member of the Albanian Mafia at that time.[14] The Albanian mafia has deep roots in Belgium, which was recently a topic of a special programme on Belgian RTBF Channel One. Reporters tried to investigate the roots of Albanian organized crime but have complained that it is too hard to penetrate the structure and organization of the Albanian mafia, but they agreed that the Albanian mafia acts on the model of the Italian one, whose crime is part of the "activities of entire families" and which has a clearly defined hierarchy. [edit] FranceThe Albanian mafia in France is described as having a monopoly over many criminal transactions including arms and drug trafficking. The Albanian mafia has a strong foothold in France, which is a key strategy as other primary transactions are overseen in neighbouring countries by different mafia families and clans.[16]
GermanyAlbanian mafia families are one of the major criminal organizations in Germany. In particular, they play a crucial role in the drug trade and the red light districts of the country. Although this is well-known to German security authorities, such as the (Bundesnachrichtendienst), they are unwilling to undertake an investigation against the Albanian criminal structures in Germany.[17]
"Ethnic Albanians" (as the German police officially calls them), who come in to Germany typically from Albania or the Republic of Macedonia or Kosovo, created for a very short time in the last decade of the century, a very powerful criminal network, says Manfred Quedzuweit, director of the Police Department for Fighting the Organized Crime in Hamburg. "Here, it could be heard that they are even more dangerous than Cosa Nostra.[18] Albanian "banks" in Germany are a special story. They are used for the transfer of money from Germany, which amounts to a billion of D-marks a year. One of these banks was discovered by accident by the Düsseldorf police while checking a travel agency "Eulinda" owned by the Albanians. "We haven't found a single travel related catalogue or brochure at the agency. The computers were nonfunctional, the printer had never been used. We found that "Eulinda" was a coverup for some other business", said high criminal counselor from Düsseldorf Rainer Bruckert.
Scandinavia"The ethnic Albanian mafia is very powerful and extremely violent," said Kim Kliver, chief investigator for organized crime with the Danish National Police. Law enforcement authorities estimate that different Albanian mafia families may smuggle as much as 440 pounds of heroin a year into Scandinavia at any given time.[26]
[edit] SpainAccording to Spanish Authorities, the Albanian mafia is composed of powerful organized factions. In a report by Spanish Authorities, the factions have infiltrated banks and industrial estates. They are very active in Madrid and Costa Del Sol.[27]
[edit] SwitzerlandGeneva Deputy Public Prosecutors state that the Albanian mafia is one of the most powerful ones among eight identified mafias in the world.[28] The other mafia organizations around the world are the Russian Mafia, Chinese (Triad), Japanese (Yakuza), Italian Mafia, Colombian (drug cartels) organizations, and Mexican (drug cartels) organizations. The Albanian mafia controls the entire network of heroin trafficking in Geneva, Switzerland.[29] The Geneva deputy public prosecutors also added that the Albanian Mafia "is laundering a part of income in Geneva economy, restaurants, bars, real estate and cabarets".[28]
[edit] United KingdomAlbanian mafia gangs are believed to be largely behind sex trafficking, immigrants smuggling, as well as working with Turkish gangs in Southend-on-Sea, who control the heroin trade in the United Kingdom.[30][31]
CanadaThe Albanian mafia is firmly established in Eastern Canadian cities, such as Toronto and Montreal. Albanians are involved in various white collar activities, such as real estate and health care fraud. Furthermore, they are engaged in cross-border activity between the United States and Canada, which includes drug smuggling and money laundering.[34]
A Canadian Security Intelligence Service report noted that although organized crime in Canada has shifted to more multi-ethnic and loosely based structures, the term "mafia" is used only to identify the "big three," which have hierarchical structures that are ethnically, racially, and culturally homogeneous: the Italian, Albanian, and Russian mafias.[35]
[edit] United StatesThe Albanian mafia in the United States has been thought to greatly increase their dominant power and is one of the most violent criminal organizations in operation—particularly with their strong connections in In the United States, Albanian gangs started to be active in the mid-80s, mostly participating in low-level crimes, such as burglaries and robberies. Later, they would become affiliated with Cosa Nostra crime families before eventually growing strong enough to operate their own organizations under the Iliazi family name.[37]
During investigations conducted by FBI experts in the city of New York and surrounding areas against the Albanian mafia, it was noted that the Albanian mafia was too widespead and too secretive to penetrate.
agree john,
with every theory that pieces together parts of the puzzle to come to a conclusion, there is one that comes to a counter conclusion. the fact that not all pieces are relevant, or exposed makes it difficult, or near impossible for unofficial persons like you or i to make an accurate conclusion.
it seems likely that it could be a serb, and other serbs are protecting them. it also seems likely that it is a 'false-flag' type operation and someone is trying to garner sympathy for a cause.
there are numerous cases in other non-backwards regions of the world where criminal events occur in highly populated areas, and there are no eye-witnesses. uk has worked to get around eye-witnesses by installing cctv cameras on virtually every corner of london. even then sometimes perpetrators sneak through those cracks.
its not a fair representation of the situation if you take a stance of guilt, one way or another based upon partical information.
by claiming that "the other side" did it doesn't make it appropriate for you to. you can't call other conspiracy thoeirsts crack-pots without calling your own theorists crack-pots.
also if you wish to take the high road you cannot use flawed-low-road arguments to support your high-road.
until the offical story is out, it is all speculation.
if your're of the opinion that this society is better than serbian, you can't use serbian approach. you must distinguish yourself in a positive way.
I put the link as the proof that the attacks in the North primarily are attacks against the Kosovo state. That terrorist attack in Leposavic is just another episode of it. If you have nothing better to say then thank you for proving my point.
Of course it was a terrorist attack, the KLA are known for numerous attacks like that. Nothing new when it comes to heroindealers and organtraffickers.
zeevon, there is nothing wrong with "theories" as long as you mark them as those, just as it is not wrong to pick up the current facts. It starts only to get strange when conspiracy theories start to become "fact", a trait we are very much used from the Serbian sides which babbles about the Anti-Serb world conspiracy ever since.
Furthermore, missing facts and proofs were never an obstacle for the Serbian political class to make accusations, especially in this particular case where the Albanian side is constantly blamed for. At least this time they try to avoid any fingerpointing considering that it happened so far from any Albanian settlement. Some lies are to bold to be expressed, even for Serbs.
But I agree with you when it comes that we need proof. Absolutely! However, excuse me when I guess again by saying that no Serb in Leposavic has "seen" anything relating to this attack on KPS, just as like the bomb attack on the Serbian kids of the family working for Prishtina or the fatal bomb attack on the family father in Tri Solitera.
I take your links which are unrelated to the topic and to my comment as the argumentative capitulation of yours. If you want to discuss the whole Balkan wars, this would not be the proper forum, nor you would come far, when reflecting that Serbs committed the worst crimes since the Nazi rampage on the European continent (Srebrenica, etc).
Why dont u mention the crimes that albanians, bosnian muslims and croats committed upon the serb people during the ww2?(Jasenovac, etc)And why dont u mention the crimes that the bosnian muslims and croats committed upon serbs during the last war(medacki dzep, kazane Sarajevo, tuzlanska kolona, dobrovoljacka ulica, Odzak, Naser Oric etc etc etc)?
ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact
Of course I have a low opinion of albanians, so do slovenians, croats, bosnian muslims and all other groups of people from former yugoslavia. Thats why I dont visit albanian portals unlike you that visit serb portals even thought u hate us that is the difference between me and you.
And when it comes to criminals, the number of albanians arrested allower the world every day exaggerates the total number of serb war criminals by far, in just a day. You albanians are the last to talk when it comes to criminals and criminality.
oh john, i do appriciate your logical connect the dots excersice, but i tend to follow facts and not conspiracy theories. sure, its a fun lark to thikn about cause and effect, but it is nothing compared to the offical story.
because if perhaps conspiracy theorists are correct, how many such offical stories need to be overviewed, overhauled and overrulled?
You logic misses the decisive point. We are talking about roundabout 30 attacks in the North, targeting in many cases Albanians or Serbs cooperating with Kosovo. Furthermore, and this is the more important point, if Albanians would have done that (even if it would include to attack their own) how is possible that no Serb in this predominantly Serb inhabited area did not see one, not even a suspect? And we know how fast Serbs can set up barricades. But here, they don't see anything? I find that absolutely impossible.
So we are here either dealing with people those Northern Serbs want to commit those attacks or with people were the inhabitants in the North are afraid of accusing. Albanian attackers would have been seen and reported, especially after 30 different incidents. Overall, only Serbs could have done that without being reported, especially in an area so deeply located within Serb area as Leposavic. This is the only logical conclusion.
so are we all assuming that because something happened in a predominatly (one) ethnicity region that it must have been somefrom from that (one) etnicity. seems logical. seems obvious. might i remind everyone that america is predominatly not islamic, and those planes that crashed into buildings on september 11 2001 were predominately non-islamic, yet the conclusion was that it was islamics that did it.
odd. it must have been waspy americans as they were the largest ethnictity in those situations.
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
Of course there are no evidence just like in the rest of the cases where albanians terrorize and murder serbs. How could there be evidence when the police are allied with the perpetrators?And once again stop lying the parents of the children were no pristina employees. That lie u can keep for ur fellow albanians. I know the mother Snezana for many years.
Do u stil think they work for pristina?I to would be ashamed of my origin if I was albanian and try to pretend to be something else like "haitian"for instance everything but being albanian is good.
Wrong in so many way. First, Bosnjacka Mahala is mixed and not predominantly Albanian. Second, a range of attacks occured at Tri Solitera, a building complex where Albanians have not be expelled yet. Last year a Albanian family father got killed right beside his children. When KPS arrived a Serbian mob rampaged.
[link]
(John, 20 March 2013 13:52
Here you have some more links of what u albanians have done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWxqNgRB8KM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Ou2nr-AqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWCF6JFYzuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhVI1LP-Iws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iwP7cq6N9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-8UbQI4ogI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAGkg0XVng
I have more where that is coming from just ask. And oh I almost forgot what the siptars did in macedonia not so long ago.
“Among those 20 people a few are directly involved in the horrific killings and for some we do not have details,” Jankulovska said.
On April 12 five men, one 45 years old and the others aged between 18 and 22, were found dead from gunshot wounds at a popular fishing pond near Skopje.
“The interior ministry will file terrorism charges against them,” she added, explaining that their motive was “to incite fear and insecurity”.
The authorities said they seized weapons and radical Islamic literature.
The murders sparked fears that tensions between Macedonians and minority ethnic Albanians could flare up again.
I take your links which are unrelated to the topic and to my comment as the argumentative capitulation of yours. If you want to discuss the whole Balkan wars, this would not be the proper forum, nor you would come far, when reflecting that Serbs committed the worst crimes since the Nazi rampage on the European continent (Srebrenica, etc).
I put the link as the proof that the attacks in the North primarily are attacks against the Kosovo state. That terrorist attack in Leposavic is just another episode of it. If you have nothing better to say then thank you for proving my point.
ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact.
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population. Says it all, payback is a bitch for KPS not doint their work of arresting their fellow albanians that for example threw grenades and injured 2 serb children just a month ago. Did u already forget that?
(Daniel, 20 March 2013 13:12)
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
A huge portion of the KPS north of the Ibar are Serbs not Albanians. How exactly are the KPS supposed to do their jobs properly in Northern Kosova if they are under attack from "entrepreneurs" (militant Serbs) and are unable to go to certain parts of Northern Kosova to investigate? Think about it!
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
You never quit ur lies now do you?The parents of the children were not pristina employees. It says it self that they were albanians or do u think serbs would hurt their own, especially childrens?Are u really that sick?
And again nobody of the predominantly Serb community saw anything, right? Leposavic is pretty far from the next Albanian settlement and you have to pass many Serb areas to get there, and the target was KPS. It is highly unlikely that an Albanian might have got through all of this unseen and this is one of around 30 attacks where the Serb community "did not say anything". Says it all..
(John, 20 March 2013 11:10)
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population. Says it all, payback is a bitch for KPS not doint their work of arresting their fellow albanians that for example threw grenades and injured 2 serb children just a month ago. Did u already forget that?
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population.
(Daniel, 20 March 2013 13:12)
Wrong in so many way. First, Bosnjacka Mahala is mixed and not predominantly Albanian. Second, a range of attacks occured at Tri Solitera, a building complex where Albanians have not be expelled yet. Last year a Albanian family father got killed right beside his children. When KPS arrived a Serbian mob rampaged.
And again nobody of the predominantly Serb community saw anything, right? Leposavic is pretty far from the next Albanian settlement and you have to pass many Serb areas to get there, and the target was KPS. It is highly unlikely that an Albanian might have got through all of this unseen and this is one of around 30 attacks where the Serb community "did not say anything". Says it all..
Just another terrorist attack on Pristina's institutions/ employees with the intention of disrupting talks between Belgrade and Pristina. Thankfully no-one was hurt.
Whenever there are talks in Brussels they increase the tension, bomb innocnet people and now the institutions. As KFOR said yesterday over 40% of attackes are carried out against people that work in the Kosova's Govt HQ for north, other -60% towards KPS and innocent and disarmed Albanians in north which bravery, courage and persistance in defending their land I admire.
Just another terrorist attack on Pristina's institutions/ employees with the intention of disrupting talks between Belgrade and Pristina. Thankfully no-one was hurt.
And again nobody of the predominantly Serb community saw anything, right? Leposavic is pretty far from the next Albanian settlement and you have to pass many Serb areas to get there, and the target was KPS. It is highly unlikely that an Albanian might have got through all of this unseen and this is one of around 30 attacks where the Serb community "did not say anything". Says it all..
Whenever there are talks in Brussels they increase the tension, bomb innocnet people and now the institutions. As KFOR said yesterday over 40% of attackes are carried out against people that work in the Kosova's Govt HQ for north, other -60% towards KPS and innocent and disarmed Albanians in north which bravery, courage and persistance in defending their land I admire.
I take your links which are unrelated to the topic and to my comment as the argumentative capitulation of yours. If you want to discuss the whole Balkan wars, this would not be the proper forum, nor you would come far, when reflecting that Serbs committed the worst crimes since the Nazi rampage on the European continent (Srebrenica, etc).
I put the link as the proof that the attacks in the North primarily are attacks against the Kosovo state. That terrorist attack in Leposavic is just another episode of it. If you have nothing better to say then thank you for proving my point.
ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact.
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population. Says it all, payback is a bitch for KPS not doint their work of arresting their fellow albanians that for example threw grenades and injured 2 serb children just a month ago. Did u already forget that?
(Daniel, 20 March 2013 13:12)
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
A huge portion of the KPS north of the Ibar are Serbs not Albanians. How exactly are the KPS supposed to do their jobs properly in Northern Kosova if they are under attack from "entrepreneurs" (militant Serbs) and are unable to go to certain parts of Northern Kosova to investigate? Think about it!
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population.
(Daniel, 20 March 2013 13:12)
Wrong in so many way. First, Bosnjacka Mahala is mixed and not predominantly Albanian. Second, a range of attacks occured at Tri Solitera, a building complex where Albanians have not be expelled yet. Last year a Albanian family father got killed right beside his children. When KPS arrived a Serbian mob rampaged.
And again nobody of the predominantly Serb community saw anything, right? Leposavic is pretty far from the next Albanian settlement and you have to pass many Serb areas to get there, and the target was KPS. It is highly unlikely that an Albanian might have got through all of this unseen and this is one of around 30 attacks where the Serb community "did not say anything". Says it all..
(John, 20 March 2013 11:10)
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population. Says it all, payback is a bitch for KPS not doint their work of arresting their fellow albanians that for example threw grenades and injured 2 serb children just a month ago. Did u already forget that?
Wrong in so many way. First, Bosnjacka Mahala is mixed and not predominantly Albanian. Second, a range of attacks occured at Tri Solitera, a building complex where Albanians have not be expelled yet. Last year a Albanian family father got killed right beside his children. When KPS arrived a Serbian mob rampaged.
[link]
(John, 20 March 2013 13:52
Here you have some more links of what u albanians have done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWxqNgRB8KM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Ou2nr-AqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWCF6JFYzuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhVI1LP-Iws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iwP7cq6N9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-8UbQI4ogI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAGkg0XVng
I have more where that is coming from just ask. And oh I almost forgot what the siptars did in macedonia not so long ago.
“Among those 20 people a few are directly involved in the horrific killings and for some we do not have details,” Jankulovska said.
On April 12 five men, one 45 years old and the others aged between 18 and 22, were found dead from gunshot wounds at a popular fishing pond near Skopje.
“The interior ministry will file terrorism charges against them,” she added, explaining that their motive was “to incite fear and insecurity”.
The authorities said they seized weapons and radical Islamic literature.
The murders sparked fears that tensions between Macedonians and minority ethnic Albanians could flare up again.
I put the link as the proof that the attacks in the North primarily are attacks against the Kosovo state. That terrorist attack in Leposavic is just another episode of it. If you have nothing better to say then thank you for proving my point.
Of course it was a terrorist attack, the KLA are known for numerous attacks like that. Nothing new when it comes to heroindealers and organtraffickers.
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
Of course there are no evidence just like in the rest of the cases where albanians terrorize and murder serbs. How could there be evidence when the police are allied with the perpetrators?And once again stop lying the parents of the children were no pristina employees. That lie u can keep for ur fellow albanians. I know the mother Snezana for many years.
Do u stil think they work for pristina?I to would be ashamed of my origin if I was albanian and try to pretend to be something else like "haitian"for instance everything but being albanian is good.
You logic misses the decisive point. We are talking about roundabout 30 attacks in the North, targeting in many cases Albanians or Serbs cooperating with Kosovo. Furthermore, and this is the more important point, if Albanians would have done that (even if it would include to attack their own) how is possible that no Serb in this predominantly Serb inhabited area did not see one, not even a suspect? And we know how fast Serbs can set up barricades. But here, they don't see anything? I find that absolutely impossible.
So we are here either dealing with people those Northern Serbs want to commit those attacks or with people were the inhabitants in the North are afraid of accusing. Albanian attackers would have been seen and reported, especially after 30 different incidents. Overall, only Serbs could have done that without being reported, especially in an area so deeply located within Serb area as Leposavic. This is the only logical conclusion.
the Hague tribunal begs to differ :-)
(Nikolle, 20 March 2013 19:1
Swedish police, German police, Greek police, Swiss police, Italian police, and the rest of european police departmenst beg to differ. 75%of the prisoners in their prisons are albanians just like that murderer that took 5 hostages in a greek prison a couple of days ago. 100%albanian.
Europe[edit] BelgiumIn 1989, Belgian Prime Minister Paul Vanden Boeynants was kidnapped in a plot organized by Basri Bajrami. Bajrami was acknowledged by authorities as a member of the Albanian Mafia at that time.[14] The Albanian mafia has deep roots in Belgium, which was recently a topic of a special programme on Belgian RTBF Channel One. Reporters tried to investigate the roots of Albanian organized crime but have complained that it is too hard to penetrate the structure and organization of the Albanian mafia, but they agreed that the Albanian mafia acts on the model of the Italian one, whose crime is part of the "activities of entire families" and which has a clearly defined hierarchy. [edit] FranceThe Albanian mafia in France is described as having a monopoly over many criminal transactions including arms and drug trafficking. The Albanian mafia has a strong foothold in France, which is a key strategy as other primary transactions are overseen in neighbouring countries by different mafia families and clans.[16]
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
You never quit ur lies now do you?The parents of the children were not pristina employees. It says it self that they were albanians or do u think serbs would hurt their own, especially childrens?Are u really that sick?
ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact
Of course I have a low opinion of albanians, so do slovenians, croats, bosnian muslims and all other groups of people from former yugoslavia. Thats why I dont visit albanian portals unlike you that visit serb portals even thought u hate us that is the difference between me and you.
And when it comes to criminals, the number of albanians arrested allower the world every day exaggerates the total number of serb war criminals by far, in just a day. You albanians are the last to talk when it comes to criminals and criminality.
zeevon, there is nothing wrong with "theories" as long as you mark them as those, just as it is not wrong to pick up the current facts. It starts only to get strange when conspiracy theories start to become "fact", a trait we are very much used from the Serbian sides which babbles about the Anti-Serb world conspiracy ever since.
Furthermore, missing facts and proofs were never an obstacle for the Serbian political class to make accusations, especially in this particular case where the Albanian side is constantly blamed for. At least this time they try to avoid any fingerpointing considering that it happened so far from any Albanian settlement. Some lies are to bold to be expressed, even for Serbs.
But I agree with you when it comes that we need proof. Absolutely! However, excuse me when I guess again by saying that no Serb in Leposavic has "seen" anything relating to this attack on KPS, just as like the bomb attack on the Serbian kids of the family working for Prishtina or the fatal bomb attack on the family father in Tri Solitera.
I take your links which are unrelated to the topic and to my comment as the argumentative capitulation of yours. If you want to discuss the whole Balkan wars, this would not be the proper forum, nor you would come far, when reflecting that Serbs committed the worst crimes since the Nazi rampage on the European continent (Srebrenica, etc).
Why dont u mention the crimes that albanians, bosnian muslims and croats committed upon the serb people during the ww2?(Jasenovac, etc)And why dont u mention the crimes that the bosnian muslims and croats committed upon serbs during the last war(medacki dzep, kazane Sarajevo, tuzlanska kolona, dobrovoljacka ulica, Odzak, Naser Oric etc etc etc)?
GermanyAlbanian mafia families are one of the major criminal organizations in Germany. In particular, they play a crucial role in the drug trade and the red light districts of the country. Although this is well-known to German security authorities, such as the (Bundesnachrichtendienst), they are unwilling to undertake an investigation against the Albanian criminal structures in Germany.[17]
"Ethnic Albanians" (as the German police officially calls them), who come in to Germany typically from Albania or the Republic of Macedonia or Kosovo, created for a very short time in the last decade of the century, a very powerful criminal network, says Manfred Quedzuweit, director of the Police Department for Fighting the Organized Crime in Hamburg. "Here, it could be heard that they are even more dangerous than Cosa Nostra.[18] Albanian "banks" in Germany are a special story. They are used for the transfer of money from Germany, which amounts to a billion of D-marks a year. One of these banks was discovered by accident by the Düsseldorf police while checking a travel agency "Eulinda" owned by the Albanians. "We haven't found a single travel related catalogue or brochure at the agency. The computers were nonfunctional, the printer had never been used. We found that "Eulinda" was a coverup for some other business", said high criminal counselor from Düsseldorf Rainer Bruckert.
Scandinavia"The ethnic Albanian mafia is very powerful and extremely violent," said Kim Kliver, chief investigator for organized crime with the Danish National Police. Law enforcement authorities estimate that different Albanian mafia families may smuggle as much as 440 pounds of heroin a year into Scandinavia at any given time.[26]
[edit] SpainAccording to Spanish Authorities, the Albanian mafia is composed of powerful organized factions. In a report by Spanish Authorities, the factions have infiltrated banks and industrial estates. They are very active in Madrid and Costa Del Sol.[27]
[edit] SwitzerlandGeneva Deputy Public Prosecutors state that the Albanian mafia is one of the most powerful ones among eight identified mafias in the world.[28] The other mafia organizations around the world are the Russian Mafia, Chinese (Triad), Japanese (Yakuza), Italian Mafia, Colombian (drug cartels) organizations, and Mexican (drug cartels) organizations. The Albanian mafia controls the entire network of heroin trafficking in Geneva, Switzerland.[29] The Geneva deputy public prosecutors also added that the Albanian Mafia "is laundering a part of income in Geneva economy, restaurants, bars, real estate and cabarets".[28]
[edit] United KingdomAlbanian mafia gangs are believed to be largely behind sex trafficking, immigrants smuggling, as well as working with Turkish gangs in Southend-on-Sea, who control the heroin trade in the United Kingdom.[30][31]
CanadaThe Albanian mafia is firmly established in Eastern Canadian cities, such as Toronto and Montreal. Albanians are involved in various white collar activities, such as real estate and health care fraud. Furthermore, they are engaged in cross-border activity between the United States and Canada, which includes drug smuggling and money laundering.[34]
A Canadian Security Intelligence Service report noted that although organized crime in Canada has shifted to more multi-ethnic and loosely based structures, the term "mafia" is used only to identify the "big three," which have hierarchical structures that are ethnically, racially, and culturally homogeneous: the Italian, Albanian, and Russian mafias.[35]
[edit] United StatesThe Albanian mafia in the United States has been thought to greatly increase their dominant power and is one of the most violent criminal organizations in operation—particularly with their strong connections in In the United States, Albanian gangs started to be active in the mid-80s, mostly participating in low-level crimes, such as burglaries and robberies. Later, they would become affiliated with Cosa Nostra crime families before eventually growing strong enough to operate their own organizations under the Iliazi family name.[37]
During investigations conducted by FBI experts in the city of New York and surrounding areas against the Albanian mafia, it was noted that the Albanian mafia was too widespead and too secretive to penetrate.
oh john, i do appriciate your logical connect the dots excersice, but i tend to follow facts and not conspiracy theories. sure, its a fun lark to thikn about cause and effect, but it is nothing compared to the offical story.
because if perhaps conspiracy theorists are correct, how many such offical stories need to be overviewed, overhauled and overrulled?
so are we all assuming that because something happened in a predominatly (one) ethnicity region that it must have been somefrom from that (one) etnicity. seems logical. seems obvious. might i remind everyone that america is predominatly not islamic, and those planes that crashed into buildings on september 11 2001 were predominately non-islamic, yet the conclusion was that it was islamics that did it.
odd. it must have been waspy americans as they were the largest ethnictity in those situations.
Yet Serbia is negotiating to join the Eu and Albania is not. Don't you sometimes wonder why?
(Tom Tom, 20 March 2013 23:26)
Serbia is negotiating with the EU? I thought Serbia was trying its hardest to get a date to start negotiating with the EU, hence all the news articles for the last two years.
-ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact.
Nikolle
Yet Serbia is negotiating to join the Eu and Albania is not. Don't you sometimes wonder why?
The bomb was not thrown at the police station intentionally. It was just some Albanian kids playing pitcher and cather, and one of them was throwing like a girl, and missed. I hear that American baseball has become very popular now with the Albanian kids in Kosovo in the last 10 years. Why in the world would anyone in Kosovo want to throw a bomb at a police station, ridiculous.
agree john,
with every theory that pieces together parts of the puzzle to come to a conclusion, there is one that comes to a counter conclusion. the fact that not all pieces are relevant, or exposed makes it difficult, or near impossible for unofficial persons like you or i to make an accurate conclusion.
it seems likely that it could be a serb, and other serbs are protecting them. it also seems likely that it is a 'false-flag' type operation and someone is trying to garner sympathy for a cause.
there are numerous cases in other non-backwards regions of the world where criminal events occur in highly populated areas, and there are no eye-witnesses. uk has worked to get around eye-witnesses by installing cctv cameras on virtually every corner of london. even then sometimes perpetrators sneak through those cracks.
its not a fair representation of the situation if you take a stance of guilt, one way or another based upon partical information.
by claiming that "the other side" did it doesn't make it appropriate for you to. you can't call other conspiracy thoeirsts crack-pots without calling your own theorists crack-pots.
also if you wish to take the high road you cannot use flawed-low-road arguments to support your high-road.
until the offical story is out, it is all speculation.
if your're of the opinion that this society is better than serbian, you can't use serbian approach. you must distinguish yourself in a positive way.
And again nobody of the predominantly Serb community saw anything, right? Leposavic is pretty far from the next Albanian settlement and you have to pass many Serb areas to get there, and the target was KPS. It is highly unlikely that an Albanian might have got through all of this unseen and this is one of around 30 attacks where the Serb community "did not say anything". Says it all..
(John, 20 March 2013 11:10)
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population. Says it all, payback is a bitch for KPS not doint their work of arresting their fellow albanians that for example threw grenades and injured 2 serb children just a month ago. Did u already forget that?
Wrong in so many way. First, Bosnjacka Mahala is mixed and not predominantly Albanian. Second, a range of attacks occured at Tri Solitera, a building complex where Albanians have not be expelled yet. Last year a Albanian family father got killed right beside his children. When KPS arrived a Serbian mob rampaged.
[link]
(John, 20 March 2013 13:52
Here you have some more links of what u albanians have done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWxqNgRB8KM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Ou2nr-AqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWCF6JFYzuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhVI1LP-Iws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iwP7cq6N9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-8UbQI4ogI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAGkg0XVng
I have more where that is coming from just ask. And oh I almost forgot what the siptars did in macedonia not so long ago.
“Among those 20 people a few are directly involved in the horrific killings and for some we do not have details,” Jankulovska said.
On April 12 five men, one 45 years old and the others aged between 18 and 22, were found dead from gunshot wounds at a popular fishing pond near Skopje.
“The interior ministry will file terrorism charges against them,” she added, explaining that their motive was “to incite fear and insecurity”.
The authorities said they seized weapons and radical Islamic literature.
The murders sparked fears that tensions between Macedonians and minority ethnic Albanians could flare up again.
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
You never quit ur lies now do you?The parents of the children were not pristina employees. It says it self that they were albanians or do u think serbs would hurt their own, especially childrens?Are u really that sick?
Whenever there are talks in Brussels they increase the tension, bomb innocnet people and now the institutions. As KFOR said yesterday over 40% of attackes are carried out against people that work in the Kosova's Govt HQ for north, other -60% towards KPS and innocent and disarmed Albanians in north which bravery, courage and persistance in defending their land I admire.
I take your links which are unrelated to the topic and to my comment as the argumentative capitulation of yours. If you want to discuss the whole Balkan wars, this would not be the proper forum, nor you would come far, when reflecting that Serbs committed the worst crimes since the Nazi rampage on the European continent (Srebrenica, etc).
Why dont u mention the crimes that albanians, bosnian muslims and croats committed upon the serb people during the ww2?(Jasenovac, etc)And why dont u mention the crimes that the bosnian muslims and croats committed upon serbs during the last war(medacki dzep, kazane Sarajevo, tuzlanska kolona, dobrovoljacka ulica, Odzak, Naser Oric etc etc etc)?
And again nobody of the predominantly Serb community saw anything, right? Leposavic is pretty far from the next Albanian settlement and you have to pass many Serb areas to get there, and the target was KPS. It is highly unlikely that an Albanian might have got through all of this unseen and this is one of around 30 attacks where the Serb community "did not say anything". Says it all..
the Hague tribunal begs to differ :-)
(Nikolle, 20 March 2013 19:1
Swedish police, German police, Greek police, Swiss police, Italian police, and the rest of european police departmenst beg to differ. 75%of the prisoners in their prisons are albanians just like that murderer that took 5 hostages in a greek prison a couple of days ago. 100%albanian.
Europe[edit] BelgiumIn 1989, Belgian Prime Minister Paul Vanden Boeynants was kidnapped in a plot organized by Basri Bajrami. Bajrami was acknowledged by authorities as a member of the Albanian Mafia at that time.[14] The Albanian mafia has deep roots in Belgium, which was recently a topic of a special programme on Belgian RTBF Channel One. Reporters tried to investigate the roots of Albanian organized crime but have complained that it is too hard to penetrate the structure and organization of the Albanian mafia, but they agreed that the Albanian mafia acts on the model of the Italian one, whose crime is part of the "activities of entire families" and which has a clearly defined hierarchy. [edit] FranceThe Albanian mafia in France is described as having a monopoly over many criminal transactions including arms and drug trafficking. The Albanian mafia has a strong foothold in France, which is a key strategy as other primary transactions are overseen in neighbouring countries by different mafia families and clans.[16]
Just another terrorist attack on Pristina's institutions/ employees with the intention of disrupting talks between Belgrade and Pristina. Thankfully no-one was hurt.
-ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact.
Nikolle
Yet Serbia is negotiating to join the Eu and Albania is not. Don't you sometimes wonder why?
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
Of course there are no evidence just like in the rest of the cases where albanians terrorize and murder serbs. How could there be evidence when the police are allied with the perpetrators?And once again stop lying the parents of the children were no pristina employees. That lie u can keep for ur fellow albanians. I know the mother Snezana for many years.
Do u stil think they work for pristina?I to would be ashamed of my origin if I was albanian and try to pretend to be something else like "haitian"for instance everything but being albanian is good.
ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact.
GermanyAlbanian mafia families are one of the major criminal organizations in Germany. In particular, they play a crucial role in the drug trade and the red light districts of the country. Although this is well-known to German security authorities, such as the (Bundesnachrichtendienst), they are unwilling to undertake an investigation against the Albanian criminal structures in Germany.[17]
"Ethnic Albanians" (as the German police officially calls them), who come in to Germany typically from Albania or the Republic of Macedonia or Kosovo, created for a very short time in the last decade of the century, a very powerful criminal network, says Manfred Quedzuweit, director of the Police Department for Fighting the Organized Crime in Hamburg. "Here, it could be heard that they are even more dangerous than Cosa Nostra.[18] Albanian "banks" in Germany are a special story. They are used for the transfer of money from Germany, which amounts to a billion of D-marks a year. One of these banks was discovered by accident by the Düsseldorf police while checking a travel agency "Eulinda" owned by the Albanians. "We haven't found a single travel related catalogue or brochure at the agency. The computers were nonfunctional, the printer had never been used. We found that "Eulinda" was a coverup for some other business", said high criminal counselor from Düsseldorf Rainer Bruckert.
Scandinavia"The ethnic Albanian mafia is very powerful and extremely violent," said Kim Kliver, chief investigator for organized crime with the Danish National Police. Law enforcement authorities estimate that different Albanian mafia families may smuggle as much as 440 pounds of heroin a year into Scandinavia at any given time.[26]
[edit] SpainAccording to Spanish Authorities, the Albanian mafia is composed of powerful organized factions. In a report by Spanish Authorities, the factions have infiltrated banks and industrial estates. They are very active in Madrid and Costa Del Sol.[27]
[edit] SwitzerlandGeneva Deputy Public Prosecutors state that the Albanian mafia is one of the most powerful ones among eight identified mafias in the world.[28] The other mafia organizations around the world are the Russian Mafia, Chinese (Triad), Japanese (Yakuza), Italian Mafia, Colombian (drug cartels) organizations, and Mexican (drug cartels) organizations. The Albanian mafia controls the entire network of heroin trafficking in Geneva, Switzerland.[29] The Geneva deputy public prosecutors also added that the Albanian Mafia "is laundering a part of income in Geneva economy, restaurants, bars, real estate and cabarets".[28]
[edit] United KingdomAlbanian mafia gangs are believed to be largely behind sex trafficking, immigrants smuggling, as well as working with Turkish gangs in Southend-on-Sea, who control the heroin trade in the United Kingdom.[30][31]
CanadaThe Albanian mafia is firmly established in Eastern Canadian cities, such as Toronto and Montreal. Albanians are involved in various white collar activities, such as real estate and health care fraud. Furthermore, they are engaged in cross-border activity between the United States and Canada, which includes drug smuggling and money laundering.[34]
A Canadian Security Intelligence Service report noted that although organized crime in Canada has shifted to more multi-ethnic and loosely based structures, the term "mafia" is used only to identify the "big three," which have hierarchical structures that are ethnically, racially, and culturally homogeneous: the Italian, Albanian, and Russian mafias.[35]
[edit] United StatesThe Albanian mafia in the United States has been thought to greatly increase their dominant power and is one of the most violent criminal organizations in operation—particularly with their strong connections in In the United States, Albanian gangs started to be active in the mid-80s, mostly participating in low-level crimes, such as burglaries and robberies. Later, they would become affiliated with Cosa Nostra crime families before eventually growing strong enough to operate their own organizations under the Iliazi family name.[37]
During investigations conducted by FBI experts in the city of New York and surrounding areas against the Albanian mafia, it was noted that the Albanian mafia was too widespead and too secretive to penetrate.
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population.
(Daniel, 20 March 2013 13:12)
Wrong in so many way. First, Bosnjacka Mahala is mixed and not predominantly Albanian. Second, a range of attacks occured at Tri Solitera, a building complex where Albanians have not be expelled yet. Last year a Albanian family father got killed right beside his children. When KPS arrived a Serbian mob rampaged.
And all other 29 attacks were conducted in Bosnjacka Mahala with a predominantly albanian population. Says it all, payback is a bitch for KPS not doint their work of arresting their fellow albanians that for example threw grenades and injured 2 serb children just a month ago. Did u already forget that?
(Daniel, 20 March 2013 13:12)
Who says that Albanians were to blame for that grenade attack? There is no evidence to suggest that. Not a single piece. The two Serb children were the children of Prishtina employees.
A huge portion of the KPS north of the Ibar are Serbs not Albanians. How exactly are the KPS supposed to do their jobs properly in Northern Kosova if they are under attack from "entrepreneurs" (militant Serbs) and are unable to go to certain parts of Northern Kosova to investigate? Think about it!
so are we all assuming that because something happened in a predominatly (one) ethnicity region that it must have been somefrom from that (one) etnicity. seems logical. seems obvious. might i remind everyone that america is predominatly not islamic, and those planes that crashed into buildings on september 11 2001 were predominately non-islamic, yet the conclusion was that it was islamics that did it.
odd. it must have been waspy americans as they were the largest ethnictity in those situations.
You logic misses the decisive point. We are talking about roundabout 30 attacks in the North, targeting in many cases Albanians or Serbs cooperating with Kosovo. Furthermore, and this is the more important point, if Albanians would have done that (even if it would include to attack their own) how is possible that no Serb in this predominantly Serb inhabited area did not see one, not even a suspect? And we know how fast Serbs can set up barricades. But here, they don't see anything? I find that absolutely impossible.
So we are here either dealing with people those Northern Serbs want to commit those attacks or with people were the inhabitants in the North are afraid of accusing. Albanian attackers would have been seen and reported, especially after 30 different incidents. Overall, only Serbs could have done that without being reported, especially in an area so deeply located within Serb area as Leposavic. This is the only logical conclusion.
ohh Daniel, however low your opinion of Albanians may well be, Serbs still have the unenviable record of having produced the biggest number of war criminals after Nazi Germany round their neck. fact
Of course I have a low opinion of albanians, so do slovenians, croats, bosnian muslims and all other groups of people from former yugoslavia. Thats why I dont visit albanian portals unlike you that visit serb portals even thought u hate us that is the difference between me and you.
And when it comes to criminals, the number of albanians arrested allower the world every day exaggerates the total number of serb war criminals by far, in just a day. You albanians are the last to talk when it comes to criminals and criminality.
oh john, i do appriciate your logical connect the dots excersice, but i tend to follow facts and not conspiracy theories. sure, its a fun lark to thikn about cause and effect, but it is nothing compared to the offical story.
because if perhaps conspiracy theorists are correct, how many such offical stories need to be overviewed, overhauled and overrulled?
I take your links which are unrelated to the topic and to my comment as the argumentative capitulation of yours. If you want to discuss the whole Balkan wars, this would not be the proper forum, nor you would come far, when reflecting that Serbs committed the worst crimes since the Nazi rampage on the European continent (Srebrenica, etc).
I put the link as the proof that the attacks in the North primarily are attacks against the Kosovo state. That terrorist attack in Leposavic is just another episode of it. If you have nothing better to say then thank you for proving my point.
I put the link as the proof that the attacks in the North primarily are attacks against the Kosovo state. That terrorist attack in Leposavic is just another episode of it. If you have nothing better to say then thank you for proving my point.
Of course it was a terrorist attack, the KLA are known for numerous attacks like that. Nothing new when it comes to heroindealers and organtraffickers.
zeevon, there is nothing wrong with "theories" as long as you mark them as those, just as it is not wrong to pick up the current facts. It starts only to get strange when conspiracy theories start to become "fact", a trait we are very much used from the Serbian sides which babbles about the Anti-Serb world conspiracy ever since.
Furthermore, missing facts and proofs were never an obstacle for the Serbian political class to make accusations, especially in this particular case where the Albanian side is constantly blamed for. At least this time they try to avoid any fingerpointing considering that it happened so far from any Albanian settlement. Some lies are to bold to be expressed, even for Serbs.
But I agree with you when it comes that we need proof. Absolutely! However, excuse me when I guess again by saying that no Serb in Leposavic has "seen" anything relating to this attack on KPS, just as like the bomb attack on the Serbian kids of the family working for Prishtina or the fatal bomb attack on the family father in Tri Solitera.
agree john,
with every theory that pieces together parts of the puzzle to come to a conclusion, there is one that comes to a counter conclusion. the fact that not all pieces are relevant, or exposed makes it difficult, or near impossible for unofficial persons like you or i to make an accurate conclusion.
it seems likely that it could be a serb, and other serbs are protecting them. it also seems likely that it is a 'false-flag' type operation and someone is trying to garner sympathy for a cause.
there are numerous cases in other non-backwards regions of the world where criminal events occur in highly populated areas, and there are no eye-witnesses. uk has worked to get around eye-witnesses by installing cctv cameras on virtually every corner of london. even then sometimes perpetrators sneak through those cracks.
its not a fair representation of the situation if you take a stance of guilt, one way or another based upon partical information.
by claiming that "the other side" did it doesn't make it appropriate for you to. you can't call other conspiracy thoeirsts crack-pots without calling your own theorists crack-pots.
also if you wish to take the high road you cannot use flawed-low-road arguments to support your high-road.
until the offical story is out, it is all speculation.
if your're of the opinion that this society is better than serbian, you can't use serbian approach. you must distinguish yourself in a positive way.
The bomb was not thrown at the police station intentionally. It was just some Albanian kids playing pitcher and cather, and one of them was throwing like a girl, and missed. I hear that American baseball has become very popular now with the Albanian kids in Kosovo in the last 10 years. Why in the world would anyone in Kosovo want to throw a bomb at a police station, ridiculous.
Yet Serbia is negotiating to join the Eu and Albania is not. Don't you sometimes wonder why?
(Tom Tom, 20 March 2013 23:26)
Serbia is negotiating with the EU? I thought Serbia was trying its hardest to get a date to start negotiating with the EU, hence all the news articles for the last two years.
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